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RG-NewGuyinstalling mplayer on kubuntu help00:04
RG-NewGuyi don't have internet access for my machine with kubuntu00:04
RG-NewGuyi downloaded the source for mplayer00:05
RG-NewGuybut i goto install and it still doesn't work00:05
RG-NewGuywhen installing mplayer should i start off as root?00:05
Machtinyep, guess so00:07
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RG-NewGuykinda silent tonight00:14
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zabbadappRG-NewGuy: mplayer need some devlibs and headers  to compile i think .. so you may need to download more stuff first. The compile works as regular user, the install needs root00:24
zabbadappRG-NewGuy: you also need the package build-essential to even begin compiling stuff (avail in the repos).00:25
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draikHello all00:39
stroudWhat is the url for reporting bugs in kubuntu intrepid?00:40
draikIs anyone here experiencing an issue with Firefox. It won't "run". It delays for quite a bit and then when it loads, it halts. Doesn't do a thing.00:41
dr_WillisNot really.00:41
stroudYes I've seen that problem with firefox3, though less frequently with the newest update00:43
draikstroud: latest update?00:44
draikHere is "apt-cache policy firefox":00:45
draikfirefox:00:45
draik  Installed: 3.0.1+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.04.300:45
draik  Candidate: 3.0.1+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.04.300:45
stroudjust a sec00:45
stroudfirefox 3.0.100:46
strouddraik: firefox 3.0.100:47
draikThat's what I have00:47
strouddraik: I've mostly noticed that it seems to freeze up for a bit at the end of loading a page00:49
draikI lags on loading and seems to freeze when about to finish loading a page (since google.com doesn't finish loading)00:50
draik*I lags = It lags00:50
dr_Willis!info fusesmb00:53
ubottufusesmb (source: fusesmb): filesystem client based on the SMB file transfer protocol. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.7-1 (hardy), package size 30 kB, installed size 140 kB00:53
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draikDoes anyone here use Opera? I would like some user input on comparison with Firefox01:09
dr_WillisIt works.. I have more extensions i perfer in firefox.01:12
_a61_##apple01:15
dr_Willis##jacks01:15
_a61_##apple01:15
ign0ramus##pie01:16
ign0ramusanyone use virtualbox?  the room in #vbox is echoing, and I could use some help01:17
ubuntu_Ok I have try and try to work around a problem I have with kubuntu as I have about 5 packages which are broken01:18
ign0ramusubuntu_: have you ran "sudo apt-get -f install" in a terminal?01:18
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ubuntu_yes it what to use a alpha cd what with that I did use it the first time01:19
ign0ramus?01:20
ubuntu_yes01:20
ign0ramusi have no idea what you mean01:20
ubuntu_the system was running like a dream..  And then I show a friend the system while away from home no internet then01:21
ign0ramusok - what specifically is your issue?  Are you running 8.04?01:21
ubuntu_I used a update cd which I place on a DVD from the 25 jul 08 then the system will not update in any package manage of konsole01:22
zabbadappign0ramus: i use vbox01:23
ign0ramuszabbadapp: do you use XP as guest?01:23
zabbadappyes01:23
ign0ramuszabbadapp: do you have sound?  Because that is my issue01:23
ign0ramusubuntu_: what is the output when you run *sudo apt-get update*?01:24
zabbadappyes, i have alsa selected01:24
ubuntu_broken packages can not update01:24
ign0ramuszabbadapp: me too, with the AC97 option.  But in guest XP, it claims there is no Audio Device Present, and wants to install a Mulitmedia Audio Controller, which always fails.01:25
ign0ramusubuntu_: are you able to uninstall the broken packages in Adept?01:25
ubuntu_no will not let me01:26
ubuntu_ask for alpha disc01:26
ign0ramuszabbadapp: should i try installing audio drivers in the guest?01:26
ubuntu_is there a way to go backward to stop this problem01:27
ign0ramusubuntu_: what happens when you remove the Install Disc from your repositories?01:27
draikubuntu_: You have to change the repos (somewhat) so that it doesn't ask for the CD01:27
ubuntu_how please01:27
draikubuntu_: Go into Adept Manager01:28
draikClick on Adept, then on Manage Repositories01:28
zabbadappign0ramus: no idea, it just worked for me. devicemgr in guest says it's a "intel 82801aa ac97".01:28
ubuntu_no running Adept running synapic01:29
ign0ramuszabbadapp: that's what everyone has said - it just worked for them.  I know i had a heck of a time getting sound to work on my lappy when I installed Kubuntu, so it's not a huge shock that it's giving me problems in Vbox01:29
draikIIRC, it should fix it within Adept; I don't know Synaptic01:29
ign0ramuszabbadapp: who is the driver signed by?01:29
ign0ramusubuntu_: in Synaptic... "Settings" --> "Repositories"01:30
ign0ramusuncheck the disc.  I assume you're talking about an Intrepid Ibex Alpha disc?01:31
zabbadappign0ramus:  Microsoft Windows Component Publisher, 2001-07-01, version 5.1.2535.001:31
ubuntu_ok will log in hold on01:32
ign0ramuszabbadapp: hmmm... maybe I will try downloading some drivers. I wasn't sure if Vbox used the Linux settings or actually had its separate API01:32
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ign0ramuszabbadapp: I just installed it yesterday - it's awesome.  Mostly for my email (MS Exchange) and ActiveSync (which I haven't got working yet...)01:33
draikWould removing firefox and then reinstalling fix firefox?01:33
ign0ramusdraik: what's wrong with your firefox?01:33
draikLags to start (about 5 min or so) and then when it loads, it freezes when trying to load google.com01:34
AuxilioHi, kinda new here, is there a channel for edubuntu?01:34
ign0ramusdraik: what if you start it in safe mode? <firefox --safe-mode> (assuming you are using Firefox 3)01:35
draikign0ramus: I am using firefox 3.0.101:35
ign0ramusdraik: try the above command and see if it still hangs01:35
draikOk01:35
draikJust did01:35
RG-NewGuyinstalling icewm on kubuntu?01:35
draikStill not loading.01:35
draikRather, not loaded/displaying yet01:36
ign0ramusdraik: figures.  did you back up your bookmarks and stuff already?01:36
draikign0ramus: Yes.01:36
zabbadappign0ramus: yes its great! ... if you install the guest additions so that clipboard and resize works transparent01:36
JackPhilwhere to download the qt firefox?01:36
ign0ramusdraik: as long as you don't have much to lose, then I'd reinstall Firefox... but make sure to delete your config files, too01:36
ign0ramusjackphil: they actually made a qt firefox?01:37
draikign0ramus: Where do I go to delete the config files? My guess is something similar to ~/.mozilla/firefox....01:37
ubuntu12back01:37
Auxiliohi, is there a channel for edubuntu?01:37
JackPhilignOramus, Yes, public test01:37
draik!edubuntu | Auxilio01:38
ubottuAuxilio: Edubuntu is an Ubuntu derivative aimed at schools and educational institutions. For more info, see http://www.edubuntu.org01:38
ign0ramusdraik: yeah, that's one place.  Also in /usr/share (i think)... just use <locate firefox> and delete what config files and folders are there.  Then you can start from scratch01:38
Auxilioi understand that, i was just wondering if there was a channel for edubuntu, rather than kubuntu01:38
Auxilio!edubuntu01:38
ubottuEdubuntu is an Ubuntu derivative aimed at schools and educational institutions. For more info, see http://www.edubuntu.org01:38
ubuntu12ign0ramus was it you talking about repos'ys01:38
ign0ramusjackphil: i've wanted that for a while now...01:38
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Auxiliowell, perhaps i can get help here01:39
ign0ramuschuxxsss: i think so... it's hard to keep track of who is who when people keep changing their name o_O01:39
JackPhilignOramus, me too: http://browser.garage.maemo.org/news/10/firefoxqt3.tar.gz01:40
chuxxsssI was in a live CD sorry01:40
zabbadappJackPhil: i don't think there is a qt-FF anymore .. TIPS: you do know that the gtk-FF can use the kde file requester anyway? go to about:config and search for "file_picker", and toggle the boolean.01:40
draikign0ramus: Guess what just loaded? The safe-mode prompt01:40
ign0ramusdraik: wow.  nuke it from orbit - its the only way to be sure ;)01:40
draikign0ramus: Too funny. I have a small tear from laughing at this issue now.01:41
ign0ramusjackphil: that url is broken01:41
Auxilioi'm running an intel graphics card, and whenever I try to load games, or anything 3D, I get a ton of errors01:41
Hydrogen_They revived the qt-ff port just recently01:41
Auxilio(both graphical errors, and window errors)01:41
ign0ramusdraik: yeah, if you've backed up, kill every file named "firefox" in your system and reinstall01:41
draikign0ramus: already did01:41
ign0ramusdraik: you can also look into Swiftweasel, which is the same thing as FF, but optimized for your CPU architecture01:42
Auxilioso I was wondering if I needed drivers for my cards, but I can't find them01:42
draikign0ramus: Just started up firefox again...01:42
draikLet's see how long this one takes01:42
chuxxsssno the look like the reposy thing did work01:42
ign0ramusdraik: still waiting?01:43
draikyUP01:43
draik*Yup01:43
draikJust loaded01:44
JackPhilignOramus, search the file name firefoxqt3.tar.gz01:44
draikFrozen01:44
JackPhilI got one on rapidshare, althouh it may be unsafe01:44
ign0ramusdraik: try Swiftweasel: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=19547301:45
Auxilioanyone have any ideas how i should find drivers for my intel graphics?01:45
ign0ramusjackphil: if it's not from the mozilla team, I don't know if I'd install it, mostly for stability issues01:45
chuxxssscan anyone help me here is a paste of what I get with apt-get install -f now01:47
chuxxssshttp://pastesite.com/172801:47
ign0ramuschuxxsss: you have to close Synaptic01:47
chuxxsssthank hold on01:47
draikign0ramus: I clicked on the link and it opened a new firefox window. Then it froze and nothing is going on. I closed both windows.01:48
draikign0ramus: Any idea what is causing this?01:48
ign0ramusdraik: honestly, no.  but to get around the web for now, use Konqueror, download what you need, and see how it works.  Also, check for old Firefox config files in /usr/share/mozilla01:50
ign0ramusdraik: i forgot to tell you that there will be a lot of leftover Firefox files in "mozilla" folders, too.01:51
draikWhen in /usr/share/mozilla, I only had an extensions folder01:51
chuxxssshere is what print out on screen now01:52
chuxxssshttp://pastesite.com/172901:52
ign0ramusdraik: i meant /usr/lib/mozilla.  sorry01:52
draikign0ramus: I just found /usr/lib/firefox01:53
draikfirefox: /usr/bin/firefox /etc/firefox /usr/lib/firefox01:53
ign0ramuschuxxsss: have you "pinned" any of your packages (ie, marked them not to be updated)?01:53
draikThey have all be rm'd01:53
ign0ramusdraik: yup.  there's a bunch01:53
ign0ramusdraik: just make sure you don't have Thunderbird or other Mozilla apps, because some of their data will be kept in "Mozilla" folders too!01:54
draikign0ramus: After removing the locations I listed, I ran the reinstall. Can't find the executable.01:54
chuxxsssI myself have try with the 5 broken packages but it didn't work01:55
ign0ramusdraik: what do you mean? are you compiling Firefox?01:55
draikign0ramus: No. "sudo apt-get install firefox sun-java6-plugin"01:55
draiksun-java6-plugin is removed when I "sudo apt-get remove firefox"01:56
ign0ramusdraik: so you have installed  firefox again?01:56
draikYup01:56
draikRemoved, deleted and then installed it again01:57
ign0ramusdraik: then you can run it from terminal "firefox", from Kmenu (under "Internet"), or from the executable, which should be in /usr/lib01:57
draikign0ramus: Right, but it's not. Says that the executable doesn't exist01:57
ign0ramusdraik: what if you just type "firefox" in a terminal?01:58
draikI am doing a reinstall01:58
draikThe program 'firefox' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:01:58
draiksudo apt-get install firefox-3.001:58
draikbash: firefox: command not found01:58
draikThat is from terminal01:59
ign0ramusdraik: right, so its not installed01:59
draikWait...01:59
ign0ramussudo apt-get install firefox-3.0 is your ticket01:59
draikI realized that I was doing firefox, not firefox-3.001:59
draikNevermind, that's not it...02:00
draikfirefox-3.0 is already the newest version.02:00
ign0ramusso purge firefox-3.0 for now, and then try to reinstall02:00
draikwhereis firefox.....   firefox: /usr/lib/firefox02:01
draikOk, here is the new whereis firefox..... firefox: /usr/bin/firefox /usr/lib/firefox02:02
ign0ramusdraik: that's what it should be02:02
draikStill loading...02:02
ign0ramusdraik: do you have any other mozilla applications installed?02:03
draikYes02:03
draikThunderbird02:03
RG-NewGuyn00b question say ./configure && make02:04
RG-NewGuyif you want to redo the make02:04
RG-NewGuyhow would you remove previous make?02:04
ign0ramusdraik: crap.  Because FF is my only Mozilla app, I can just go through and delete anything with "mozilla" in the name, but can't do that if you have Thunderbird02:04
ign0ramusRG-NewGuy: make clean02:04
RG-NewGuythanks02:05
draikign0ramus: I know.02:05
ign0ramusnp.  we were all n00bs at some point.  I still am02:05
draikign0ramus: I was thinking... What if I backup everything with Firefox in it, --reinstall, restore one thing at a time. Would that work?02:06
draikOr02:06
draikMake my important backups and then delete everything with the mention of firefox02:07
ign0ramusdraik: that's what I was suggesting above.  and make sure to "purge" your firefox, not just "remove", which leaves config files02:07
draikThat's what I forgot02:08
draikI forgot to purge02:08
JackPhilignOramus, look this:http://browser.garage.maemo.org/news/10/02:08
draiksudo apt-get remove --purge firefox firefox-3.0          Is that right?02:08
manuel_fuck02:08
JackPhilis it a Serious site?02:08
ign0ramusdraik: this is probably the most backasswards way, but I'll open Konqueror as root, navigate to "/", and do a ctrl+f for *firefox*.  Let it find everything, (takes like 5-6 minutes), do a select all and shift-delete02:08
ign0ramusdraik: you should be able to "apt-get purge <package>"02:09
DevourerIs there a way to install the KDE desktop environment without installing all the KDE applications?02:09
draiksudo apt-get purge firefox firefox-3.0         is now done.02:10
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ign0ramusdraik: i would go through and search for all "firefox" files and delete them now before reinstalling02:10
ign0ramusJackPhil: nice find.  the actual mozilla link: https://wiki.mozilla.org/User:Pjohnsen/MozillaQtBuild02:11
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draikOk02:11
ign0ramusJackPhil: i just may try this.  I hate having one gtk app.  I know it makes little difference, but I'm just weird02:11
JackPhilignOramus, you are not alone02:12
draikign0ramus: Should I have opened konqueror as root?02:12
ign0ramusdraik: you have to, otherwise you wouldn't be able to delete files in directories your username doesn't own (like /usr/bin), etc02:13
draikThought so02:13
ign0ramusdraik: just navigate to "/" (root), and ctrl+f for *firefox* (include the asterisks)02:14
draikign0ramus: Search in the process02:14
ign0ramusdraik: it will take a while, and may slow your comp down, but it'll find 'em :)02:15
ign0ramusdraik: once its done searching (the kubuntu wheel will stop spinning and your computer will be responsive again), select all and shift+delete02:16
dr_Willisthis all sounds a little extreme02:16
dr_Willis:)02:16
zabbadappign0ramus: the only thing that screams "gtk" in FF is the "save as..." file requester, and it can be changed to the KDE one by going to about:config and search for "file_picker" ... toggle the boolean. done!02:17
ign0ramuszabbadapp: is that so?02:17
* ign0ramus goes to tweak about:config02:17
ign0ramuszabbadapp: set it to "false"?02:17
zabbadappyes02:18
zabbadapp(seems backwards, but yes)02:18
dr_WillisOnw would think after all these years of Computer-gui-interface research and Development.. we would have the 'perfect' file requester dialog by now.02:18
dr_Willis:)02:18
ign0ramuszabbadapp: holy crap, it works!  And using my theme icons to boot!02:18
DragnslcrInteresting02:18
draikign0ramus: Going a step further... putting the backup files on my external... just to be safe02:19
DragnslcrGood tip, zabbadapp02:19
ign0ramusdraik: good idea02:19
ign0ramusdr_willis: did you ever try fixing your radio button issue in Firefox?02:20
ign0ramuswhere it doesn't display the checkmarks?02:20
zabbadappDragnslcr:  any kubuntu maintainers here? maybe that file_picker option should be set to KDE by default in kbuntu?02:22
ign0ramuszabbadapp: but wouldn't that only work if you compiled Firefox? (honestly asking)02:22
dr_Willisign0ramus,  i havent really noticed the problem lately02:23
ign0ramusdr_willis: haven't noticed or it's been fixed? because i'd like to change back to my original config if its been fixed02:24
dr_WillisIm on so many different machines.. Ive not noticed the issue on any of them lately02:24
ign0ramusdr_willis: yeah, you're a busy guy ;)02:24
zabbadappThere is an appearance setting in KDE that installs some theme fixes to Firefox in order to make gtk look more like the current QT-theme, it could also set the file_picker I guess .. no need to compile it02:24
ign0ramuszabbadapp: true.02:25
ign0ramuszabbadapp: there are already some Firefox-specific settings (i think dealing with the mouse) in Kcontrol as it is... so why not?02:25
DevourerIs there a Kubntu Live CD?02:28
ign0ramusdevourer: sure is02:28
Devourerign0ramus, one that has KDE 4.1?02:28
draikI am using Kopete. My friend sends me an image and it gets to 100% and that's it. It doesn't "complete". It sits at 100% and still says it's copying02:30
draikAm I doing something wrong?02:30
zabbadappdraik: but you got the data? what if you view the image?02:30
draikNo, it's not complete. I cannot view the image.02:31
draikIt's 0x0 dimensions02:31
chuxxsssHow do I force a update of all packages02:32
zabbadappno idea ... strange, I have watched halfway finished images over MSN (going through their slow server and then stop)... but those were jpg:s ...02:32
chuxxsssDevourer yes02:33
chuxxssshave one here02:33
Devourerchuxxsss, awesome.02:33
draikzabbadapp: This is also a jpg02:34
DevourerI think I'll try that out.02:34
chuxxssslook at the kubuntu site downloads02:34
chuxxsssign0ramus how do I update my kubuntu system by force as I can't get by the broken file problem02:36
ign0ramuschuxxsss: you can always install the .deb files of your dependencies, or manually remove (rm -f) the offending packages.  You must be careful with that option though02:37
chuxxssshttp://paste.ubuntu.com/36066/02:39
chuxxsssanyone02:39
chuxxsssplease02:41
chuxxsssign0ramus02:42
zabbadappchuxxsss: sudo dpkg --configure -a         (may take care of any pending package that got everything hanging)02:42
zabbadapp(but i really don't know what your problem is .. but that line has fixed some problems for me)02:42
chuxxsssthanks zabbadapp02:43
ign0ramuswtf? now my firefox is messed up too!  I get an error message saying that my configuration couldn't be saved, and now my homepage won't load on startup, and sites will load, but there will be no url displayed in the url bar!02:43
chuxxssszabbadapp http://paste.ubuntu.com/36069/02:45
ign0ramus"Failed to contact configuration server; some possible causes are that you need to enable TCP/IP networking for ORBit, or you have stale NFS locks due to a system crash"02:45
ign0ramuswtf?02:45
zabbadappign0ramus: you didn't install any updates (including ones for FF) with adept, and haven't restarted FF yet?02:45
ign0ramuszabbadapp: no...02:46
ign0ramuszabbadapp: i initially closed it because vbox was slowing down my system, and then re-opened it afterwards.  the only thing i changed was the file_picker, but i doubt that would cause a crash like this02:47
zabbadappchuxxsss: how did you end upp in dependecy hell? *buntu did such a good job and I have never been there .. (unlike with debian unstable or knoppmyth)02:47
draikign0ramus: What were you saying about 5-6 minutes? It's still searching.02:48
ign0ramusdraik: whoa... give it a minute or so.  the benefit of doing it through Konqueror as opposed to rm -rf'ing everything is that you can actually see all the files, and check if there's anything you want to keep02:49
chuxxsssI used a cd update from kubuntu site02:49
zabbadappign0ramus: you got all disks mounted? your home-dir available? ... i don't think the file_picker did it either (mine's been working for a long time)02:49
draikign0ramus: Don't know about that minute, but it's done :)02:51
chuxxsssany no how I can fix this02:51
ign0ramusdraik: i may have to do the same thing now!02:51
zabbadappchuxxsss: no idea, but I hope you got /home on a separate partition -- then it is very easy to reinstall and all your settings and files will be kept intact (if you just remebmer to not select to format the /home when you use the partition manager)02:52
draikign0ramus: why?02:53
chuxxsssI think its on the same drive02:53
zabbadappchuxxsss: too bad, don't forget to make a separate /home next time!  it's magic to do a complete reinstall then, and all you files are still on the desktop as when you left them .. the sessions in firefox is still there, as well as all your extensions ... every application still has its settings like you configured them ... a few apt-get install <needed-apps> and you're done ... quickest reinstall ever! :-)02:55
ign0ramusdraik: now i'm getting this error: "GConf Error: Failed to contact configuration server; some possible causes are that you need to enable TCP/IP networking for ORBit, or you have stale NFS locks due to a system crash."02:55
ign0ramusdraik: none of my configs work, and no urls display in the urlbar.  also, the statusbar text doesn't change when hovering over links.  i don't know what the hell i just did02:56
ign0ramusoh, and apparently the "back" button doesn't work now, either.  Swiftweasel still works fine, though :/02:57
zabbadappeven after restarting it?02:57
draikign0ramus: Weird. Now I can't delete some of the folders because (suddenly) they no longer exist02:58
ign0ramuszabbadapp: yup.  i just restarted x too.  same thing02:58
ign0ramusit looks like a gconf problem.  I'm googling...02:59
draikSuddenly none of those files exist03:00
draikThis is slightly annoying now03:00
draikign0ramus: What is suddenly causing these issues?03:01
Nicolaeanyone familiar with dbus?03:01
ign0ramusdraik: no idea.03:01
ign0ramusdraik: luckily, my Swiftweasel has all the same extensions and bookmarks, so I'll probably just end up nuking my install and make a fresh one, and import like crazy03:02
ign0ramus...if i can't find an answer online03:02
draikign0ramus: Good that you have that option03:02
ign0ramushmm... firefox works fine as root... I'm guessing it's somehow a permissions issue?03:05
DevourerDo I have to download the Intrepid whatever Live CD to use KDE 4.1?03:05
draikWhat is 8.10 going to be called?03:07
BigBuddhahey guys how do i format my usb drive in the terminal, or what is the best way?03:07
BigBuddhaanyone?03:08
dr_WillisYou format a filesystem.03:08
dr_Willisdoesnt matter if its a usb drive or whatever. :)03:08
BigBuddhacan you clarify plz?03:09
dr_Willissudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/WHATEVERDEVICENAME03:09
BigBuddhakk03:09
dr_WillisDepending on what filesystem you wish to use03:09
draikIs there a cleaner version of traffic monitoring than WireShark?03:09
dr_WillisPartition the device, format the partitions to be whatever filesystem you wish to use.03:09
BigBuddhai just need to format it so i can put a home video on it03:09
BigBuddhaok, so if i open the device in the terminal, what would i type?03:10
draikdr_Willis: Since it's a USB drive, wouldn't it be mkfs.fat32  ?03:10
dr_Willisthe gparted tool - gives a nice gui to the tools.03:10
dr_Willisdraik,  it all depends on what filesystem he wants.03:10
dr_Willisif its allready fat32. whats the point in reformating.. just delete the files on the device03:10
BigBuddhawhatever is compatible with windows as well03:10
BigBuddhai tried03:11
BigBuddhabut it still says its full03:11
draikdr_Willis: He wants terminal, no GUI. I guess I give points for that.03:11
dr_WillisNOW we are getting to the real problem03:11
BigBuddhaok03:11
dr_Willisits very likely theres is a .trash or whatever directory on the device that everythign you deleted from the 'gui' got moved to03:11
BigBuddhahmmm03:11
dr_Willisuse the terminal and LOOK and see what files are on there. use the rm command as needed to remove things.03:12
draikdr_Willis: Funny, I was just thinking about that. I remember the first time that happened to me.03:12
BigBuddhahey dr_Willis, i get this:03:13
BigBuddhaaaron@HQ-Linux:/media/PJUMPER2$ dir03:13
BigBuddhaaaron@HQ-Linux:/media/PJUMPER2$ ls03:13
BigBuddhaaaron@HQ-Linux:/media/PJUMPER2$03:13
BigBuddhaso...03:13
BigBuddhahmmm03:13
dr_Willisnote the .trash   . -> a hiden file03:13
dr_Willisuse ls -al03:13
draikBigBuddha: You don't use "dir" in Linux/Unix03:13
BigBuddhakk03:13
dr_WillisLinux FUNdamentals03:13
BigBuddhaoops03:14
draikI love learning Linux. It is always FUN. (no sarcasm)03:14
dr_Willisor just install and use the 'mc' file manager  from the terminal03:14
BigBuddhaaaron@HQ-Linux:/media/PJUMPER2$ ls --all03:14
BigBuddha.  ..  .Trash-100003:14
dr_WillisGolly... lookit that..03:14
BigBuddhalol03:14
draik:)03:14
BigBuddhai never doubted you03:14
draikdr_Willis: Golly gee willikers, too?03:14
BigBuddhaso..03:15
dr_Willis'ok-a-dokaly'03:15
BigBuddhajust rm it03:15
BigBuddha?03:15
dr_WillisGot a better idea? :P03:15
dr_Willistake out the trash heh heh.03:15
BigBuddha:p03:15
draikrm .Trash-100003:15
BigBuddhahey, i'm learning here, lol03:15
draikWhoops03:15
BigBuddhaty guys03:15
draikrm -rf .Trash-100003:15
BigBuddhattyl03:15
dr_Willissudo rm -rf .Trash-100003:15
dr_Willisperhaps...03:15
draiksudo?03:16
draikGood point03:16
dr_Willisdepends on who owns it.03:16
DevourerDoes the Live CD with 8.04 on it have KDE 4.1?03:16
draikSorry, my light bulb is a bit dim03:16
BigBuddhasweet03:16
BigBuddhayou guys rock03:16
dr_Willisthe kde file manager has a option to show 'hidden' files  for future referance.03:17
barnajust installed kde 4.1 on kubuntu hardy (8.04.1) and i am having the following problema.  When closing the session kde is also finishing and I get a login console.  Any help will be appreciated...03:23
draikI am getting this error message after removing Firefox and then reinstalling firefox and firefox-3.0...03:52
draikdpkg: serious warning: files list file for package `mozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb' missing, assuming package has no files currently installed.03:52
enriqueq px03:54
enriquewhere am i????03:55
enriquewhat it is?03:55
enriqueh03:56
enriquee03:56
enriquel03:56
enriquel03:56
enriqueo03:56
enriquesomebody else?03:56
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dr_WillisHmm03:56
chuxxssszabbadapp how do I setting it up or can I move my home drive to a exteral drive and reinstall it later03:57
draikI can't seem to get firefox installed correctly03:57
draikHow can I reinstall everything pertaining to firefox?03:57
draikI cannot, for the life of me, get firefox to work. How can I do a complete removal of firefox?04:06
enriqueHola04:09
draik!es | enrique04:09
ubottuenrique: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.04:09
enriqueohh ok04:10
enriquewhat the hell is this??04:10
enriquewhat hell is this??04:10
dennister!accessibility04:10
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about accessibility04:10
dennister!accessability04:11
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about accessability04:11
dr_Willisenrique,  Huh? Do you have some sort of Kubuntu related tech support question?04:12
weedarHas anyone had any luck using Kino to capture video from a dv-camera connected via firewire?04:12
enriquehi!04:12
enriqueyes but i have some probles about ubuntu04:13
enriqueis various problems you can helpme pleas??04:14
draikenrique: did you go to the spanish channel?04:14
enriqueahh nou04:15
dr_Willisask your question and see what we can do...04:15
enriqueno cos i dont understen jet the konversetion setting04:15
enriqueok thanks firs is my amsn they no can sing in here in my house and my pc's school04:16
draikTranslation: Your MSN cannot login at here (home, I think) your your school. Correct?04:17
draik*or your school04:18
dennisterdoes anyone know why speakup has been dropped from repositories? i ask because i just downloaded someone's hardy kernel with speakup compiled in04:18
enriquein my scool is the seme problem, i dont know04:18
enriquewhy, and sorry about my english :(04:19
dr_WillisDident MSN break somthing  the other day. so all the IM clients had to update?04:19
draikdr_Willis: sounds about right. Happened to me a while back (few months ago)04:20
enriqueohh i dont know04:20
enriqueand yes the sounds is ok04:21
dr_Willisone of the many reasons I dont use MSN/ or other lame IM clients/services. :P04:21
enriqueahh ok but and then (04:22
draikAny recommendations for getting firefox to start over from a fresh install?04:22
dr_WillisI wonder how you managed to break firefox :)04:25
dr_Willisthe package manager tools have the various purge and force options you could use I guess04:26
draikdr_Willis: adept or synaptic?04:27
dr_Willisthey do the same job draik04:29
draikOk04:29
nusakanI formated and mounted an external hard drive the other day and now I can't use my flash drives04:30
Bashlyi just installed kde4 but it i cant seem to see a difference04:34
dr_WillisBashly,  you did tell the system to log you into kde4 and not kde3 on the kdm login screen?04:36
Bashlyit didnt ask me too04:36
dr_Willisits not supposed to ASK04:37
dr_Willislook at the KDM login screen. theres a sessions menu item somewhere.04:37
Bashlyim kinda a noob so where is the kdm login screen04:37
dr_WillisThats the screen where you Login.04:38
dr_Willis:) the very first one you see04:38
Bashlyok04:38
dr_Willisevery new desktop/window manager adds a entry to the sessions menu.04:38
Bashlythanks ill try that04:40
draikdr_Willis: I forgot that I clicked on firefox so that it can load04:40
draikSurprised me right now as it popped up04:40
draikIt is trying to open google.com, but it freezes04:40
nusakanI formated and mounted an external hard drive the other day and now I can't use my flash drives04:40
dr_Willisnusakan,  how did you mount the external drive?04:41
dr_Willisnusakan,  what you did shouldent really affect each other.04:41
nusakanthen what could be wrong?04:41
dr_WillisThats why i asked 'how' you mounted the external drive...04:42
dr_Willisits possible the 2 are totally not related.. its possibl you did somthing really weird.04:42
nusakanI don't think I could exactly tell you how I did it. I had people here walk me through it.04:42
nusakanI know its mounted to a folder on my desktop04:42
nusakanummmm04:42
BigBuddhahey guys for some reason my amarok keeps updating my collection, i now have 5 entries of everything and counting, how do i fix this?04:42
BigBuddhanoone is in #amarok04:42
BigBuddha:(04:42
dr_WillisPlug in the flash drive.. check 'dmesg' output.  make sure its see.   use 'sudo fdisk -l' to verify the device is seen. Then use the proper mount command  to mount it - is one way to mount the device04:43
draikThere are 7 instances of firefox running when I look with htop04:43
draikfirefox just terminated04:44
* draik begins the funeral procession for Firefox04:45
nusakanhttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com/36085/04:46
nusakanforget it. I cant deal with this tonight. too tired04:49
draikThis is on a long shot...04:51
draikHow do I update GRUB to include the latest kernel?04:51
draik!grub04:53
ubottugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto04:53
dr_WillisIf you install a new kernel with the package manager.. it should auto-update grub to include it.04:54
draikdr_Willis: Right, it *should* unless you choose the wrong option04:54
draik<.<04:54
draik>.>04:54
draikNot that I would do that... or something...04:54
dr_Williswhat  Option? i dont recall seeing any options  with doing this04:55
draikYou get asked if you want to update GRUB and all of that good stuff04:56
draikAt least I was asked04:56
draikEither way, it doesn't appear in my GRUB list04:56
dr_WillisI dont recall ever seeing it asking that.04:56
draikBTW, it there a way to stop the sporatic monkey that is Konqueror from boucing next to my pointer? It's annoying now.04:56
dr_Willis'sudo update-grub' may scan add all new kernls it sees04:57
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draikNope, /boot/grub/menu.lst has not been updated04:58
draikBRB...04:58
draikKonqueror bounce is getting annoying.04:58
dr_Willistheres some mouse feedback options in the settings somewhere for the bouncy05:00
draikdr_Willis: Ok, I'm back05:02
draikIt's not added05:02
draikNot sure what to do now.05:02
draikI can't get the new kernel to be added into my /boot/grub/menu.lst05:02
dr_Willisadd it manyually i guess.. every time ive ever update/upgraded - its always just added the new kernels.05:03
resplindraik: Sorry I'm just joining the conversation. Did you try a dpkg-reconfigure?05:04
resplinHas anyone started using xrandr 1.2 with xorg for dual screen support?05:05
draikresplin: Sorry, I had to step away for a bit.05:05
draikWhat is the full command?05:05
draiksudo dpkg-reconfigure?05:05
resplinsudo dpkg-reconfigure <pkg_name>05:06
resplinso It's probably linux-image-2.605:06
resplinOr something like that05:06
resplinAnyone familiar with xrandr?05:10
dr_WillisIve used xrandr befor. :P05:10
draikresplin: linux-image-2.6.24-20-generic or 386?05:11
resplinI'm trying to set up dual screens on my Thinkpad running 8.04 (xrandr 1.2). thinkwiki tells me to use a really bare-bones xorg.conf, and then run some xrandr commands to tell X about the dual screens. It works when I do it from the commandline, but I'm not sure where to put the commands so that they are regularly executed. Any ideas?05:11
draikIt's still not appearing on my /boot/grub/menu.lst05:12
draikI still show the linux-image-2.6.24-19-generic05:12
resplinCan I embed them in the xorg.conf? Perhaps in the xsession?05:12
dr_Willisresplin,   Theres the various xsession files.. and  the  /etc/X11/Xsession.d/ scripts05:12
dr_Willisyou do NOT put commands in xorg.conf05:12
resplinThat's what I figured. I had forgotten about Xsession.d. That's an excellent suggestion. Thanks dr_Willis.05:13
dr_Willisits possible you may need to do the commands after X starts.  perhaps in the users .xsession05:13
resplindraik: you can see which package you need to reconfigure by running dpkg -l *image*05:14
resplinWhichever one you have installed.05:14
draikresplin: generic05:14
resplinIf that doesn't work, my only suggestion is to add it by hand to the end of menu.lst. I've never had that not work though.05:14
resplinI would like it to be global, so I was trying to avoid the users .xsession.05:15
dr_WillisNot sure how globally to do things.. or how it relates to the users .xsession05:15
draikFor my menu.lst file, what do I put for kernel? I currently have   /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-19-generic root=UUID=537aa42c-18cd-47b5-a641-bf0274039411 ro single05:16
draikDo I just change the 19 to 20?05:16
resplinIt needs to be the filename, so do an ls /boot to see what is there.05:17
draikYup05:18
draikThat's it05:19
draikWhat about the UUID?05:19
draikDoes that remain the same, resplin?05:19
dr_WillisUUID shouldent change05:20
draikOk05:20
draikHere goes something... Hope to be back in 20-generic05:20
t850hello05:23
dr_Willismooo05:24
anthonyis there a way to type an umlat in a text area, i am not familiar with this u+9879 sequence05:25
anthonywhat key is u?05:25
dr_Willisi got no idea05:26
draikresplin_: Sorry, but that didn't work05:27
draikdr_Willis: resplin_: adding the change of 19 to 20 did not work05:27
dr_Willisyou could clarify a bit more. :)05:27
draikI verified that the updated information was identical with the exception of the 19 and 2005:27
draikLet me get a patebin going.05:27
draik!pastebin05:28
ubottupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)05:28
anthony018705:28
polpeexit05:28
anthony)!*&05:28
anthonydammit05:28
anthonyall i wanna type is an umlat05:28
resplin_draik: sorry then, I'm out of ideas. I haven't played with the UUID stuff much yet. You'll have to do some reading on Google.05:28
dr_Willisthe UUID shouldent matter.. the kernels are all using the same 'root'05:29
resplin_anthony: you can use a utility like gucharmap05:29
resplin_or kcharselect05:29
anthonywell this is within wine05:30
draikHere is my original menu.lst...    http://paste.ubuntu.com/36093/05:30
anthonyso i dunno if it will work05:30
draikHere is my added 20...      http://paste.ubuntu.com/36094/05:30
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smartyhey all... few questions... i wanna back up my system before making any specific changes to a theme.. when i try to use Keep - it doesnt allow me to save it anywhere (root, docs, home, etc)05:31
smartyAny way to do so or any other utility?05:31
dr_Willisdraik,  and what happens if you try to boot the new kenrnel entry?05:31
draikNo GUI05:31
draikI get TTY105:32
dr_Willisthats... vague.. :)05:32
resplin_draik: have you installed the updated kernel modules for your graphics card? That might require recompiling say the nvidia module.05:32
dr_WillisYou compiled this kernel yourself?05:32
dr_WillisIf you get to the console. use 'uname -a' and see what kernel version you are running.05:33
resplin_anthony: I think pasting off the clipboard will work within wine, but I've never tested it myself.05:33
anthonyresplin_: just tried it05:33
anthonyi got \u018705:33
anthonytee hee05:33
anthonydidn't work too well05:33
resplin_anthony: sorry I can't help you.05:35
Dillizarcan any one help me with kopete i have a small problem05:35
Dillizar:)05:35
draikresplin_: I don't believe I did anything with the video or it may have been part oft he upgrade05:36
draikuname -a      2.6.24-19-generic05:36
draikdr_Willis: I get the TTY1 screen being asked for my username, then password.05:36
draikdr_Willis: No, I did not compile the kernel. This was from the repos05:37
dr_Willisdraik,  login, and use uname -a        see what kernel you are running05:38
dr_WillisYou may be going about this totally the wrong way.05:38
dr_Willisit maybe running your kernel05:38
draikdr_Willis: 2.6.24-19-generic05:38
draikIt's not because it doesn't appear on my list05:38
draikI had to revert to my original menu.lst without the 2005:39
dr_WillisI would just remove/reinstall the other kernel then.. and let it update the grub configs.05:39
resplin_draik: It sounds like you are booting fine, but that X isn't starting with the new kernel. What kind of graphics card do you have? Do you have an errors in /var/log/Xorg.0.log?05:39
resplin_Dillizar: state your problem, and we'll see if we can help.05:40
Dillizarwhen smb will send me a msg there is this BIG display note05:41
Dillizarhow can i turn it off05:41
draikresplin_: Yes, here is my pastebin on that file.   http://paste.ubuntu.com/36097/05:41
resplin_That is the latest one which succeeded. We need the one from when you failed.05:43
resplin_It's probably Xorg.0.log.old05:44
draikOk05:44
draikhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/36098/05:45
resplin_Dillizar: smb is sending you messages to Kopete?05:45
resplin_What is the display note say?05:46
resplin_draik: Yeah, that's what I thought. Your nvidia driver is not the right one for the new kernel module. You need to upgrade it too.05:47
resplin_Figure out which one with dpkg -l *nvidi*05:47
resplin_Then upgrade it with aptitude.05:47
draikHow do I know which one it is?05:47
draik-new05:48
draik"sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new"    ?05:49
Dillizarresplin_: like incoming message          view      ignore05:53
resplin_draik: that sounds right.05:55
draiknvidia-glx-new is already the newest version.05:55
resplin_Dillizar: you can change kopete's notification settings Configure->Behavior05:56
resplin_draik: I'm not sure what is specifically wrong, but googling on the nvidia module for your specific card will help. There is lots of information.05:57
draikIs there a way to perform a reinstall on everything from the last upgrade?05:58
Dillizarresplin_: iknow that but what is the name fo this note05:59
Dillizari dont know what to turn off06:00
Dillizar:)06:00
resplin_Dillizar: sorry, it's actually under Configure->Notifications, and I think it's "An incoming message has been received" or something.06:02
Dillizarok i thinkg i have done smt :)06:06
daedelu1hey, I have a quick question. I just installed kubuntu 8.04 with kde 3.5x, and wanted to upgrade to 4.1. I used "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install kubuntu-kde4-desktop" to install it, and it asked me whether I wanted to use kde 3 or 4 as the default, and I believe I chose 4. Anyways, then I rebooted, but it's still using kde 3.5. How do change it to use kde 4?06:06
draikNo matter what I do, 20 does not get added to my menu.lst06:09
draikI reinstalled 20 and got nothing.06:09
dr_WillisYou selexct what desktop to use at the Login screen.   theres a sessions menu item daedelu106:09
draikIt's there, but it will not add to the menu.lst06:09
daedelu1ok06:09
daedelu1thanks a bunch06:09
dr_Willisit proberly asked if you want to use KDM3 or KDM4 as the default liogin manager.. thats not the same as selecting the default desktop. :)06:10
daedelu1ah, that explains it even more06:10
flacciddr_Willis: did that dude work out the sidewinder thing?06:10
daedelu1since the login screen was different06:11
dr_Willisno idea flaccid06:11
flacciddr_Willis: no worries :)06:11
dr_Willisflaccid,  i wasent going to lose any sleep over it. :)06:11
flaccidyeah unfortunately i felt like i did. was a bit crazy06:13
dr_Willishe could of had a MS-Sidewinder stragic commander as well! :) its a Mouse+Joystick devce heh heh...06:13
draikWhat am I doing wrong if I cannot get GRUB to update? The 20-generic is there and reinstalled, but won't get into the menu.lst file.06:13
flaccidouch!06:19
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flacciddraik: update-grub fails? you could use kgrubeditor or a text editor06:19
draikflaccid: I did both. Manual update doesn't work. Won't load.06:20
flacciddraik: doesn't work, won't load?06:23
flaccidalways specify a specific reason/error etc.06:23
draikIt doesn't work because it won't load up the GUI06:23
flacciddraik: it = what? gui = what?06:24
draikWhen I reboot, it takes me to TTY106:24
flacciddraik: no grub?06:25
draikYes, I get GRUB. I chose the 20-generic06:25
draikThen I get to TTY106:25
flaccidsounds like your X is not loading ie. kdm06:25
flaccidcheck /var/log/Xorg.0.log06:25
draikhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/36098/06:26
flaccidhave a look at the bottom. you have to reinstall the nvidia driver so the mod matches against your kernel..06:26
draikHow do I do that?06:27
flaccidnvidia-glx-new ? or just glx?06:27
draik-new06:27
draikSays it's the latest (apt-get)06:27
dr_Willisuname -a shows the proper kernel? or not..06:28
draikIt shows 19-generic06:28
dr_Willissounds to me like ya got  an error in the menu.lst entry you made.. or somthing else is going on and its gotten files confused.06:28
draikDelete menu.lst and then do sudo update-grub?06:29
flacciddraik: sudo apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-glx-new06:30
flaccidthats all you have to do06:30
draikDone06:30
flacciddraik: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart06:31
flaccidhmm he had x goin hmm weird. i thought it went to tty only. ah well06:31
dr_Willisi got no idea on this one.. he did somthign really weird... and been ttrying to fix it all day06:32
dr_Willisi  dident even see the -20 kernel in the updates yet06:33
flaccidfair enough. well the x log was pretty indicative. nvidia mod didn't match kernel06:33
dr_Willisand he did not seem to be even booting the -20 kernel06:33
flaccidyeah. i guess the kernel version thing is another thing dependent on his menu.lst and what he selects. the reinstall will fix for current kernel version, so i just assume he would be booting with that06:34
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smartyneed someones help big time... how do i install this theme??  http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Xaphire?content=7670506:37
dr_Willis!changetheme06:38
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about changetheme06:38
dr_Willis!theme06:38
ubottuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy06:38
flaccid!themes06:38
draikflaccid: dr_Willis: I am still on 19-generic :(06:38
smartyi tried it in KBFX but it still doesnt appear.06:38
flacciddraik: yes but is your X fixed?06:39
draikSeems so. I don't have any issues viewing anything.06:39
dr_WillisThat Theme uses Dekorator, so  you must download it. and use the Dekorator settings to load that theme06:39
dr_Willisits not a 'normal' theme in the respect.06:40
smartysudo apt-get install dekorator?06:40
dr_WillisNo idea.. use the search feature of the package manager tools. :)06:40
resplindr_willis: a script in /etc/X11/XSession.d worked great. Thanks for the help.06:41
smartyokay :)06:41
dr_WillisLast i tried Dekorator - it sucked.06:41
smartyHeh.06:41
dr_WillisI will stick with the themes in the Normal Repositories06:41
smartyany specific link that handles normal repositories?06:42
dr_WillisWhat sort of specific link are you wanting? thers dozens of themes in the standard k/ubuntu repos.06:42
dr_WillisNot installed by default06:42
smartywhat do you like the best? (or use the most) :P :)06:43
dr_WillisI use "Plastik" theme normally06:43
smartyah ok06:43
draikBut how do I manage to use 20-generic?06:44
dr_Willisi dont even see a 20-generic kernel in the repos...06:44
flacciddr_Willis: im using 2.6.24-19-generic06:46
dr_Willis 2.6.24-19-generic06:46
flaccidwhy would you need -20 anyway?06:46
dr_WillisI only see a 16, 18, and 19  :)06:46
draikI see twenty installed with /boot06:48
dr_Willisid like to know where that came from.06:48
flacciddraik: pastebin /boot/grub/menu.lst; dpkg -l | grep kernel please06:49
draikmenu.lst    http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/36110/06:51
draikkernel    http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/36111/06:52
flacciddraik: there is no  2.6.24-20 in there..06:52
draikI know06:52
draikIt won't add06:52
flaccidonce again, what is 'it' ?06:52
draikSorry06:53
draiksudo update-grub06:53
dr_Williswhat files are in --> ls -l /boot/     because I cant even find any mentin of a 2.6.24-20 anywhere in the repos.06:53
dr_WillisUnless of coruse you are not using Hardy.....06:54
flaccidlinux-image-2.6.24-20-generic | 2.6.24-20.38 | http://archive.ubuntu.com hardy-proposed/main Packages06:54
flaccidits in hardy-proposed..06:54
flaccidthats probably why. draik if you really want to use it, then edit menu.lst manually06:54
draikI am on 8.0406:54
draikhttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com/36112/06:54
draikOh06:55
flacciddraik: like this: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/36114/06:56
draikflaccid: That is what I did and I was unable to boot into a GUI with 20-generic06:56
flacciddraik: why?06:57
draikThat's the million dollar question06:57
draikAnd the billion dollar question is why won't firefox work06:57
flacciddraik: describe the behaviour. in order to fix a problem, you need to know what the problem is...06:58
draikThis all started with Firefox06:58
dr_Willisbigger  question - why are you using proposed at all... :)06:58
draikIt takes about 5+ minutes to start06:58
flaccidit has nothing to do with firefox which is userland not kernel06:58
draikThen when it does, it freezes06:58
flaccidyou can take out quiet splash options from the entry in menu.lst to see what is happening/freezing up on ..06:59
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draikLogin doesn't freeze06:59
flaccidlogin?06:59
flaccidsorry mate, you are always vague :)07:00
draikSorry07:01
draikComputer starts up just fine07:01
draikI am able to login with a GUI and all07:01
draikI can't run firefox07:01
flaccidso firefox is the only problem left?07:01
draikYes07:02
flacciddraik: run firefox from konsole and see what the problem is07:02
draikNone07:02
dr_WillisNo problems? we all done then...07:03
dr_Willis:P07:03
draik:/07:03
flaccidpretty much07:04
* flaccid shakes dr_Willis' hand07:04
dr_WillisYou just said there was None to the 'problems' -07:04
* dr_Willis is confused again...07:04
flaccidyeah ah well07:05
* dr_Willis updates and upgrades.... and looks at the 45mb icons package download...07:05
draikNone reported, that's what I meant.07:05
flaccidi have 370 pkgs to update but im on a crap connection till about the 17th :o07:06
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dr_Willisdraik,  so you run firefox from the terminal, and it just sits there for 5 min.. then starts up?07:08
draikYes07:08
draikI currently have firefox open07:08
draikBut I can't do anything07:08
draikFirefox hangs07:08
draikI just clicked on the address bar and it froze07:08
dr_WillisBy which you mean to say.. even after firefox starts 5 min later.. its usless eh...07:09
flacciddraik: try with a fresh ~/.mozilla or a new user07:09
flaccidor use a better browser like Opera :p07:09
dr_Willis!info dilo07:09
ubottuPackage dilo does not exist in hardy07:09
dr_Willis!info dillo07:09
ubottudillo (source: dillo): Small and fast web browser. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.8.6-2 (hardy), package size 390 kB, installed size 1088 kB07:09
draikflaccid: I tried Opera. Seems that pages won't load unless I'm still viewing that tab/page.07:10
draikI keep on using the reload button with Opera07:10
dr_Willissounds to me like you got some deeper issues07:10
draik:(07:12
* dr_Willis gets ready to boot to linux-generic (2.6.24.20.22) .07:13
dr_Willis:P07:13
dr_Willisbrb07:14
flacciddraik: you might be talking about the loading behaviour in opera, that can be changed07:15
alex777xI have a raid5 array with 3 drives, 2 are still intact, I'm trying to increase the size of the array, so I'm trying to add a 3rd partition with a greater size07:16
alex777xfor example: sda1: 150g, sdb1 150g, and I'm trying to add sdc1 with 200g07:16
draikflaccid: I have been trying for the past 2 days to get my firefox running again. :(07:16
alex777xI have mdadm 2.6.407:16
flacciddraik: so you telling me you get no output at all running it from konsole?07:16
draikCorrect07:16
draikFirefox just runs after 5 minutes07:17
AyabaraI want to create a listing of what's on my external harddrives so that I can check the content when I'm not connected. Any ideas how I could/should do it?07:17
flacciddraik: ah well. perhaps #firefox can help07:17
crackheadhey does anyone know now to make firefox on ubuntu look like firefox on windows to websites you visit??07:17
flaccidAyabara: without further requirements ls -lahR /media/mountpoint07:17
dr_Willisthere are extensions for firefox - that can change the 'user agent'  crackhead07:17
flaccidso ls -lahR /media/mountpoint > ~/list-of-files.txt07:18
alex777xam I doing something wrong ?07:18
draikLOL. I didn't see the username and thought dr_Willis was suddenly being rude LOL07:18
dr_Willis:)07:18
Ayabaraflaccid, thanks again. I'll see if I can find yet another channel where you can answer me :)07:18
flaccidhaha cool07:19
draikWell, it's late. I tried loading firefox from Konsole and it still doesn't have any error messages.07:22
draikI also do not have another login prompt, if that matters.07:22
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alex777xanyone ?07:22
Guest81261Yasberlis07:22
flacciddraik: another login prompt?07:23
draikDon't I get a login prompt once the app is loaded?07:23
flaccidwhat app?07:24
draikIn this case, firefox07:24
draikAll I show right now is      $: firefox07:24
draikThe cursor is just below it07:25
draikSorry, that should be        :~$ firefox07:25
draikThis is new07:26
draikDidn't see this before07:26
draikThere is an error message07:26
draikflaccid: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/36118/07:26
flaccidi have no idea what a login prompt has to do with firefox..07:27
draikflaccid: I'm sorry. I thought that once any application was loaded, you would get a login prompt07:27
flaccidwhy would you think that?07:28
draikI just thought it was like any other command. Once it's done, it's closed and you get a new login prompt07:28
flacciddraik: thats not how it works at all. technically the only login you do is from kdm..07:29
draikI just realized I was calling it a login prompt07:30
flacciddraik: i'd advise learning about bash redirection and sending processes to the background with & etc..07:30
draikI meant to say a command prompt07:30
flaccidyeah see above draik ^^07:30
draikSorry07:30
flaccidnp07:30
draikDoes the error message make sense to you? The one from my last pastebin07:31
flacciddraik: nope. the only thing i can advise is googling it and going to firefox and maybe trying to reinstall firefox/try a dif version etc.07:31
draikHow can I get a different version?07:31
flaccidhttp://getfirefox.com07:32
draikKinda funny that it opened in Firefox07:35
flaccidhehe07:39
flacciddraik: which firefox you using?07:41
draik3.007:41
flaccidcan you paste the entry from dpkg -l please?07:41
SitUbuntuSitdraik, did you install any extensions?07:45
draikAlmost didn't think pastebin was going to accept that much...    http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/36122/07:46
SitUbuntuSitmaybe your profile is screwed up somehow.07:46
flacciddraik: oh i essentially meant dpkg -l | grep firefox07:46
draikLOL07:46
draikOk07:46
flacciddraik: i advised doing a fresh profile/now profile etc. before, same result you say?07:46
draikSitUbuntuSit: I have uninstall and reinstalled many many many times07:47
SitUbuntuSitbut if you don't purge your profile, it will still try to use it07:47
SitUbuntuSitand if you have conflicts from extensions/addons, it will persist in new installations07:47
SitUbuntuSityou could always rm -r ~/.mozilla from the command line07:48
flaccidyes as i said before draik: [16:09] <flaccid> draik: try with a fresh ~/.mozilla or a new user07:48
draikI deleted the profile07:48
flacciddraik: same thing?07:48
draikHow do I start with a fresh .mozilla?07:48
draikYes, same thing07:48
draikRight now, I should be on my 8th or 9th profile.07:48
SitUbuntuSitIf you delete .mozilla it will create a new one when you open firefox again07:48
draikOk07:49
SitUbuntuSitjust to be sure you could sudo aptitude purge firefox-whichever-version from the commad line as well07:49
draikOk07:50
draikRemoved07:50
draikLet me start firefox again07:51
SitUbuntuSitgoodluck07:51
flaccidif you purged it, there will be no firefox to start. you should run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install firefox07:51
SitUbuntuSitLOL, that would have been frustrating. Didn't think to mention that one key point there.07:52
draikStill pending on firefox to start07:55
flacciddraik: you mean same thing?07:55
draikYes07:55
SitUbuntuSitdo other programs hang at all?07:56
SitUbuntuSitoh, well then in that case, it probably NOT a firefox issue, but something else.07:56
SitUbuntuSitwhich programs? all, some?07:57
draikJust firefox07:58
flaccidah well draik. the only last thing you can try besides a different firefox is rasing a bug or doing a strace firefox and see if you can work it out from that07:59
draikHmmm07:59
draikI got the wizard from firefox07:59
flaccidand this is not a k app either :O07:59
draikImport Wizard07:59
flaccidgot the wizard?07:59
flaccidcongratulations..07:59
happosadeHello08:01
flaccid!hi08:01
ubottuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!08:01
Happis!fsck08:02
ubottufsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot08:02
draikOk08:02
draikThis is new08:02
draik*** about to copy smart keywords08:03
draik*** done copying smart keywords08:03
flacciddraik: google your errors and keep !enter in mind.08:03
draikflaccid: Sorry about the enter.08:04
Happishow long that fhck gonna take?08:05
Happisfsck08:05
flaccidHappis: depends on many variables it could be 30seconds or it could be 10minutes08:05
flaccidHappis: why dont you try and see?08:05
happosadeGah!08:07
happosade!shipit08:07
ubottushipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org - Shipit will send Hardy (8.04) CDs08:07
draikIt's getting late. I have to get some rest. Maybe some fresh eyes will help in the morning.08:10
draikThanks flaccid08:11
chairmani need help w/jasper image converter08:12
flaccidchairman: this chan is kubuntu support08:12
chairmanhow do i get jasper image converter ?08:13
flaccidstill you can ask chairman your question if you want08:13
chairmani just did08:13
flaccidchairman: i can see that. google should always be checked and i found: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=87139908:14
flaccid!iinfo libjasper-progs | chairman08:14
chairmanin the konsole terminal right flaccid08:20
flaccidchairman: nah that was a bot call. if you want to install this package in konsole you type: sudo apt-get install libjasper-progs08:20
darxhi, when viewing pdf's in kde 4.1 konqueror, it get artifacts when scrolling. scrolling works fine in okular.08:21
darxhwo may i fix this?08:21
darxhas some one tried opening pdf's in konqueror and scrolling around for 10 seconds or so..08:21
darxI hate okular and would rather konqueror opened everything.08:22
darxSomebody home?08:23
flaccid!enter | darx08:24
ubottudarx: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!08:24
flacciddarx: also wrong channel for kde4 help, see topic08:24
darxthanks08:24
chairman_nothing08:25
flaccidchairman_: nothing?08:26
chairman_i tried it but nothing happened08:27
chairman_i did everything u told me to08:27
flaccidchairman_: so you typed  sudo apt-get install libjasper-progs in konsole and it did nothing, it just sat there and did nothing?08:28
flaccidchairman_: anyway. the package name has changed. open adept manager and enable the universe repos then let it fetch updates, then install the package: libjasper-runtime and you will get both the libs and progrs for it08:30
chairman_it uploaded it and i put my PW in and it said command not ffound08:33
flaccidwell thats not nothing is it..08:34
flaccidfollow the above directions08:34
chairman_thanks08:38
flaccidnp08:39
icheynemy /dev/sda1 partition is full09:58
icheyneaccording to df -h it is mounted on root09:59
icheynesorry I mean /09:59
flaccidthats no good09:59
icheynehow do I tell where the space has gone?09:59
intreqi have some questions09:59
icheyneI tried du, but that just gave me a massive list of results10:00
FSHeroHello all; could someone look at the following pastebin please? http://paste.ubuntu.com/36145/10:01
FSHeroI think my hard-disk is failing by the look of some of these messages (which is a dmesg taken after I started Kubuntu)10:01
FSHeroCheck out lines [   37.596175]10:02
FSHeroAnd [   37.596387]10:02
FSHeroSimilar errors occur below in the dmesg output10:02
flaccid!info filelight | icheyne10:03
ubottuicheyne: filelight (source: filelight): show where your diskspace is being used. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0-0ubuntu2 (hardy), package size 608 kB, installed size 1740 kB10:03
flaccid!info kdirstat | icheyne10:03
ubottuicheyne: kdirstat (source: kdirstat): graphical disk usage display with cleanup facilities. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.4.4-4 (hardy), package size 268 kB, installed size 876 kB10:03
icheynethanks flaccid10:03
flaccid!enter | FSHero10:03
ubottuFSHero: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!10:03
flaccidnp10:03
icheyneI'll try them out :)10:03
FSHeroflaccid -- sorry10:03
flaccid> polish the access key interface,np10:03
flaccidoops. i meant np10:03
flaccidFSHero: good idea to search google with errors, always. eg. i found this on google: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-472056.html10:06
icheynethanks flaccid - I found the cause - kdirstat was good enough for me...10:06
flaccidso do a fsck and smartctl and see if there is a problem FSHero10:07
flaccidicheyne: cool10:07
FSHeroflaccid: ok thx. I didn't know where to start with checking... I did a google search of the line "ata1.00: status: { DRDY ERR }" just now and it leads me to this:https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/22167710:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 221677 in linux "unable to read  IDE partition table under 8.0.4" [Undecided,Confirmed]10:07
FSHeroThis launchpad bug implies that the kernel is faulty; but can this be on my comp? I've been using this for a couple of months now. This problem only appeared suddenly this morning.10:08
FSHeroflaccid: I shall try fsck and smartctl; thx.10:08
flaccidFSHero: cool. maybe if you replace the ide cable and check the jumpers it might solve your problem, worth a try10:09
flaccidmaybe you are using an ata33 cable..10:09
flaccidyou want an ata133 cable which is 80 pin, not 40pin. still this may not be the case for you10:10
jean-louisHello. Is there a french here ? Il y a des français connectés ?10:21
bazhang!fr10:21
ubottuCe canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr10:21
jean-louisMerci10:21
jean-louisComment fait-on ?10:21
jean-louisHow can I connect me to ubuntu-fr, please ?10:22
gnumm /join #ubuntu-fr10:23
gnummwill pulseaudio be in kubuntu 8.10?10:25
Dr_willispulseaudio is used by gnome i thought. not kde.10:31
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DreamCasterermm someone help me install firefox plz10:32
Dr_willissudo apt-get install firefos10:34
Dr_willissudo apt-get install firefox10:34
Dr_willisis what i normally use10:34
DreamCasterlol i was doing it through the guide from the site10:35
DreamCasterbut it was not working :/10:35
DreamCasterthanks10:35
Dr_willisno idea on what site/guide... its in the repos.. so its trivial to install10:35
flaccid!firefox10:37
ubottufirefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins10:37
cr0whi exist a kubuntu italian channel ?11:00
Dragnslcr!it11:01
ubottuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!11:01
cr0wKubuntu11:01
cr0wnot ubuntu11:01
jussi01cr0w: they are together supported there11:01
cr0wok11:01
cr0wthanks11:01
jussi01:)11:01
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ijaihi there11:29
ijaiim new 2 linux11:29
ijaineed help on compiz11:29
ijaiany1???11:30
SitUbuntuSitwhat is your problem... i don't use it anymore but might be able to help11:31
ijaii hv install compiz thru adept11:31
ijaibut when i run it fro mterminal11:31
ijaii said "checkng for xgl: not resent" wat does it means?11:32
flaccidlol it means xgl is not present which is not required, but seeya heh11:33
SitUbuntuSitdepending on your graphics card, you may need xgl to run it. if so, you would have to install xgl.11:33
ijaihow can i get xgl?11:33
SitUbuntuSiti used to have to myself. i installed it by sudo apt-get install xserver-xgl11:33
SitUbuntuSitthen you will have to reboot11:34
ijaican i look it from adept manager?11:34
SitUbuntuSitsure11:34
flaccidijai: you don't need xgl.11:34
SitUbuntuSiti used to in gutsy, not in hardy though.11:34
ijaijust type xserver-xgl?11:34
SitUbuntuSiti had ati drivers.11:34
SitUbuntuSitdid something change flaccid?11:35
ijaiim using kubuntu 7.1011:35
SitUbuntuSitah11:35
SitUbuntuSitthat's why11:35
SitUbuntuSityes11:35
flaccidSitUbuntuSit: the world changes everyday11:35
SitUbuntuSitlol flaccid, but he IS using gutsy.11:35
ijaiflaccid: how to start my compiz11:35
flaccidi still dont' think you need xgl which is a microsoft thing. #compiz-fusion can confirm this11:35
flaccidijai: compiz --replace &11:35
SitUbuntuSitwell with an ati card, most people had to11:36
SitUbuntuSitotherwise, it wouldn't run, or it was so slow it was unuseable11:36
geek_flaccid: xgl isn't microsoft actually11:36
flaccidSitUbuntuSit: im on ati and never needed it11:36
ijaihold on guys ... im getting lost here11:36
SitUbuntuSitperhaps it depends on the card, but ati is notoriously crappy11:36
SitUbuntuSitijai, perhaps ask in compiz-fusion. they'd know best.11:37
flaccidgeek_: true you are right, my bad11:37
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ijaiok thaks11:37
liuxciao a tutti11:37
flaccidxgl:  The project was started by David Reveman of Novell and first released on January 2, 2006. It was finally removed [1] from the X server in favor of AIGLX on June 12, 2008.11:37
SitUbuntuSityou can google gutsy xgl compiz and your card and get a lot of how tos11:37
flaccid!compiz-fusion | ijai11:38
ubottuijai: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness from KMenu -> System -> Desktop Effects - further help in #compiz-fusion11:38
SitUbuntuSitjust type /join #compiz-fusion ijai11:38
SitUbuntuSitthat should do it11:38
flaccidijai: anyway your error is not an error and you don't need xgl. so you should look at the subsequent output if your compiz is not working.11:39
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jaggulihi all .. a quick one .. how to purge all removed packages11:56
flaccidjagguli: try google11:59
flaccidwhich finds http://ascending.wordpress.com/2007/04/10/apt-tip-purge-removed-packages/11:59
jagguliflaccid: thanks found it ..11:59
jaggulistart aptitude, put the cursor onto "not installed packages" and press _ g g12:00
jagguliany one using konversation .. is there a quickr way to reply to an id .. publicly12:03
faileasid?12:03
jaggulinick12:03
jaggulifaileas:like this .. with the nick before the message12:04
faileaslike jagguli: that?12:04
faileasahh12:04
jagguliyu12:04
jagguliyup12:04
faileasjagguli: first few letters, yab12:04
faileastab12:04
jaggulifaileas: cool12:04
jaggulifaileas: thanks12:04
faileas^^12:04
faileasits the same every  client i've used ;p12:05
jaggulifaileas: k thts very useful :)12:05
flaccidjagguli: hmm that aptitude thing is cool but im not sure if its right12:09
jagguliflaccid: it works12:13
flaccidnot for me, it wants to do other stuff. what is 'g' in aptitude interactive?12:13
jagguliflaccid: worked with aptitude12:13
jaggulito apply the changes afik12:14
jagguli_ is to purge12:14
proteusguyrunning kde 3.5.9 under kubuntu hardy. my konqueror help describes a 'show terminal emulator' option but i can't seem to find it anywhere. any ideas?12:14
flaccidjagguli: i know that sudo aptitude purge ~c will do it, but not sure on the interactive. i was prompted with other things and could not do it12:14
jagguliflaccid: hmm ...worked for me ..12:16
flaccidjagguli: how did you find it out?12:18
Dr_willisproteusguy,  use the F8 key i think12:18
icelabhi12:18
icelabsomeone can help me??12:19
Dr_willisproteusguy,  one of th F keys will show a konsole terminal window at the bittom of the file manager12:19
icelabi guess12:19
Dr_willisicelab,  ask a question and see who knows what.12:19
icelabok12:19
proteusguyDr_willis: wow that worked thanx. But do you see ANY menu option for this? Can't find anyway to access outside of the magic function key. Would like to make this automatically come up as part of my file browsing profile.12:19
Dr_willisproteusguy,  you can save the layout of your file manager to a session i recall in the menus12:20
icelabtha package kubuntu restricted extras are availlable for kubuntu 7.04, brecause i don't find on adept12:20
Dr_willisproteusguy,  and i do recall seeing that show terminal thing in the  menus somewhere12:20
Dr_willisKubuntu-restricted-extras was only added in whith the 8.0.4 release I thought12:21
Dr_willisi could be wrong.. and you could be spelling the package name wrong...12:21
Dr_willis!find kubuntu-restricted-extras12:21
ubottuFound: kubuntu-restricted-extras12:21
Dr_willis!find kubuntu-restricted-extras hardy12:21
flaccidjagguli: yeah thats right as per https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide , 'g' is just view and commit. i guess this works by removing packages that are already not installed. ah well im confused. if i do this with mine its not desirable12:22
icelabno way may i install some reposetry?12:29
mastereduhow can i add the standard kde 3 on my kubuntu kde 4 remix?12:30
flaccidicelab: can you rephrase that?12:30
flaccidmasteredu: install the pkg kubuntu-desktop12:30
icelabi will install the kubuntu-restricted-extras on kubuntu 7.04, but i dont find on adept12:31
flaccid!info kubuntu-restricted-extras feisty12:31
ubottuPackage kubuntu-restricted-extras does not exist in feisty12:31
flacciddoesn't exist in 7.04 it seems, icelab12:32
flaccid!codecs | icelab12:32
ubottuicelab: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:32
icelabso installing ubuntu restricted is a wrong way?12:33
flaccidicelab: only  ubuntu-restricted-extras seems available in feisty12:33
flacciddepends what you are trying to achieve12:33
icelabvideo divx or xvid12:33
flaccidicelab: have you read the above links?12:36
icelabi'm just doing12:36
icelabbut my english is not very perfect :-))12:37
henkhi all, I can't change the settings for the KDE desktop pager... It stays at 2 desktops, even if I change it to 4... Any tips?12:37
Dekanshenk: you have to change the desktop settings12:48
Dekansnot the pager settings12:48
henkDekans: i have... right click on the desktop, setup virtual desktops.... but if i set it to 4, nothing changes12:48
Dekansah ok12:48
Dekansdo you use compiz ?12:48
henkyes, but i only switched to it to see if that would allow me to increase the number of virtual desktops12:49
flaccidtry #compiz-fusion12:49
DekansI you're using compiz, you must change the desktop size in the compiz settings manager12:49
concernedcitizenthis is it13:03
Kubuntu_Hi. Anyone know if ubuntu adds it's own patches to the official kernel. If so, where can the patches be downloaded from ? Thanks.13:11
concernedcitizenI thought only linus has access to the official kernel?13:13
faileaser13:13
faileasanyone can download the official kernel13:14
concernedcitizenI mean as in do changes to it13:14
Kubuntu_... does Ubuntu add their own patches to Linus' kernel ?13:14
NicolaeI don't know, but I assume the linux-source package would have them if they do.13:16
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mastereduHello13:52
DreamCasterany msn-like program?14:03
abby87DreamCaster: amsn14:03
abby87DreamCaster: sudo apt-get install msn14:04
abby87DreamCaster: sorry sudo apt-get install amsn14:04
flaccid!kopete | DreamCaster14:04
ubottuDreamCaster: Instant Messenger Client Kopete (http://kopete.kde.org) is supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, YIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC. See also !Pidgin14:04
flaccidand kopete is already installed with kubuntu :)14:05
abby87!amarok14:05
ubottuAmarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.8 (1.4.3 for Dapper LTS). Packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok14:05
DreamCaster!real14:10
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats14:10
DreamCaster!real player14:10
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about real player14:10
DreamCaster!realplayer14:10
flaccidDreamCaster: you pretty much have to get the standalone player from them if thats what you want14:13
kde41hi14:13
flaccid!hi14:13
ubottuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!14:13
kde41is there a dolphin support chan?14:13
flaccidDreamCaster: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RealPlayerInstallationMethods14:13
flaccidkde41: not sure, but there is #kde14:14
kde41thanks14:14
flaccidnp14:14
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marwanHi, my sound stop working after i update/upgrade my Kubuntu 8.0414:20
marwancan any one help me ?14:20
dennisterokie doke; speakup has been dropped from the hardy repositories (apparently still present with gutsy), so I'm gonna have to try and create kernel with it compiled in, and then perhaps create a deb package...daunting...used to compiling a kernel from my gentoo days, ut...14:20
dennister!speakup14:20
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about speakup14:20
marwani can see the icon of my PC enabled and i can adjust the volume14:22
marwanbut no sound14:23
dennister!Speakup14:23
MementoMorimarwan: maybe it's muted?14:23
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about speakup14:23
marwanno its not14:24
marwani checked that14:24
MementoMorimarwan: try using alsactl from console14:24
MementoMorimarwan: how many sound card do you own?14:24
marwanwhen i first installed 8.04 it was working and when i upgrade it stoped working14:25
marwani have one sound card14:25
MementoMoriok try alsactl14:25
MementoMorihas anyone tried acl posix permissions with dolphin?14:27
marwanok i will try that now14:27
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marwanwhat do you want me to try with alsactl?14:30
MementoMorimarwan: using alsactl you can configure a misconfigured sound card14:32
marwanok i will try that now thanks14:35
DreamCasterany idea how to install w32 codecs?14:40
Nix3rany alternative to knemo ?14:45
MementoMoriDreamCaster: add medibuntu repo14:46
MementoMorithen you can use apt or aptitude14:47
doloanybody here using a bootsplash screen they made themselves?14:47
DreamCasterMementoMori: ermm hmm i already have medibuntu repo14:48
MementoMoriso do this:14:48
MementoMorisudo aptitude update; sudo aptitude install w32codecs14:48
DreamCasterthanks finally it is installing them14:50
DreamCaster!libdvdcss14:57
ubottuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs14:57
concernedcitizenSUP!14:57
concernedcitizenhey guys need some help changing my screen resolution14:57
concernedcitizenbut I cant seem to find the option14:57
DreamCaster!Universe14:57
ubottuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories14:57
Nix3rany alternative to knemo ?14:58
Nix3r!knemo14:59
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about knemo14:59
concernedcitizenanyone?15:00
concernedcitizenI can't seem to find the option to change screen resolution15:00
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MementoMoriconcernedcitizen: system settings -> display15:06
concernedcitizenMementoMori: I've tried them all15:07
concernedcitizenUnder Appearances, Desktop, Window Behavior and Notifications15:07
concernedcitizencan't find the option to change screen resolution15:08
concernedcitizenWAIT15:08
concernedcitizengah, how could I have missed that.15:08
concernedcitizenwe're coal now.15:08
vjfor hours I've been trying to setup mysql with Ubuntu, but it wouldn't work. when I try to create a database with mysqladmin CREATE mydb, it says access denied :-(15:09
MementoMorivj:  have you set up a root pass?15:10
vjMementoMori: how?15:10
MementoMorii mean a mysql root pass15:10
MementoMoriduring the package installation15:10
MementoMorivj:  so, have you set up a root pass?15:11
MementoMoriif not use the mysqladmin with the -u parameter15:12
MementoMoriif yes use the mysqladmin with the -u and -p parameters15:12
MementoMoriman mysqladmin  for greater details15:12
vjMementoMori: oh, dammit, I had deinstalled it and then reinstalled it later, but it didn't ask again for a password, but that did the trick!15:12
vjMementoMori: thank you!15:13
MementoMorivj: removing a package is different from purging a package15:13
PontiacCan anyone tell me why when I run [konsole -e "echo test;"] I get an error about r/w permissions on /dev/pty?15:18
MementoMoriPontiac: here it works15:20
PontiacWhat version of Ubuntu are you using?15:21
MementoMori80415:21
KrooksI got a new 1gb WD external harddrive . What filesystem should I format this hard drive with ? I'm thinking ext3 but do I really need a journalling fs for an external hard drive ?15:21
PontiacSame here.  So whats going on here.....15:21
ActionParsnipKrooks: yeah its great15:22
PontiacMind if I abuse you.. err.. use you to see what the differences between your machine and my machine are?  (This is a fresh load of the OS as of yesterday)15:22
KrooksActionParsnip: whats great ?15:22
ActionParsnipKrooks: journalsing15:23
ActionParsnipPontiac: yours is vastly different to mine15:23
PontiacWell used OS, eh?15:24
PontiacI'm basically getting the error mentioned here: http://fixunix.com/kde/150891-re-konsole-kpart-konsole-unable-open-pty.html15:24
PontiacWhat configuration do I have to do to enable the PTY devices?  I've already chmod 666 /dev/pty and still nothing.  (Bad idea, I know, but I need it to work)15:25
ActionParsnipPontiac: yep lots and very stripped down15:25
ActionParsnipPontiac: whats the -i option. I use yakuake..15:26
Pontiac-i?15:26
ActionParsnipPontiac: in the site you posted it says yakuake runs /bin/sh with a -i option15:32
PontiacI see what you mean.  I just ran /bin/sh -i and it worked without fault.  What I'm trying to do is get a shortcut to run konsole, but have it SSH into a machine directly.15:35
PontiacTo do that I use konsole -e "ssh user@otherserver"15:35
PontiacTo which gives me the error mentioned in the post with "Konsole is unable to open a PTY (pseudo teletype).15:36
ActionParsnipPontiac: so you want it to open konsole then open an ssh connection?15:37
PontiacYep.15:38
ActionParsnipPontiac: make a bash script dude15:38
PontiacI had this working before the HDD crashed on Thursday.  Since then its been a PITA.15:38
ActionParsnip!#/bin/sh15:38
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about bin/sh15:38
ActionParsnipssh blah blah blah15:39
Githzerai!shell15:39
ubottuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal15:39
ActionParsnipPontiac: easier than all that stuff you're trying15:40
PontiacGimme a sec.  Working on what you suggest.15:41
PontiacWhen I use gnome-terminal, I can launch konsole without a problem.15:41
PontiacBut as soon as I run [konsole -e "s"] it crashes with that error.15:42
PontiacThe other reason is that I'm using keyboard shortcuts to hop onto that machine directly.15:42
ActionParsnipPontiac: why launch konsole from terminal, just run konsole15:42
ActionParsnipPontiac: then make a script and assign a shotcut key to run it15:43
PontiacI'm running it from the terminal as a starting point.15:43
ActionParsnip!paste15:44
ubottupastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)15:44
dennisterneed some kernel/git help...following KernelGitGuide, have got the linux kernel repo (yes, took time), but can't do the "git pull" direction without getting errors...usually "fatal: /usr/bin/git-pull cannot be used without a working tree"15:44
ActionParsnipPontiac: http://paste.ubuntu.com/36210/15:46
PontiacI'm currently at work, and something just came up.  Gotta take care of this.  I've got your code here on the screen, and I'll look at it when I can.15:47
PontiacWhats interesting is that I had a menu item with a keyboard shortcut, running [konsole -e "ssh user@server"] and it worked.15:51
PontiacThe difference between then and now was that just ubuntu/gnome was on it before I got my fingers on it.15:51
ActionParsnipPontiac: hmm, well the script will be fine :)15:51
PontiacCurrently i `AM` running gnome, but going to install KDE right now.  (I prefer it anyways)15:52
ActionParsnip!purekde | Pontiac15:52
ubottuPontiac: If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »15:52
PontiacI'm just wondering when I install kubuntu-desktop if it puts the libs/permissions.15:52
ActionParsnipPontiac: unless you like gnome apps15:52
PontiacThis is a multi-user system, so I need to leave gnome.15:52
dennisteranyone able to help me with kerne//git issue?15:52
ActionParsnipPontiac: yes you'll have gnome libs and kde libs15:52
ActionParsnipPontiac: bit bloated but its your system15:52
PontiacNot `MY` system, no.  Works. ;)15:53
ActionParsnipPontiac: still bloat. i avoid it15:53
PontiacI understand where you going with this.15:53
PontiacBut I have to please the masses. :/15:54
ActionParsnipitd be cool to have the libs shared on a samba box and have all systems symlinking to it15:54
PontiacBack in a moment.15:55
faileasActionParsnip: till that box drops dead ;p15:56
mellopshi,  how do I install packages wich are totaly grey? sorry am beginner. I cant select it? what do I have to do?15:56
ActionParsnipfaileas: you can say that about all shared services15:56
ActionParsnipfaileas: web proxy for www access..15:56
ActionParsnipmellops: whats the name of the thing?15:56
mellopsMozilla15:57
faileasActionParsnip: also relatively slow. if i wanted to do that, i'd rather go for a thin client15:57
mellopsthunderbuird15:57
ActionParsnipfaileas: yeah me too, just popped into my head15:57
* faileas is trying to consolidate stuff into one box though15:57
faileasi'm doing torrents off two systems right now.. so everything is gonna go through torrentflux now ;p15:58
ActionParsnipmellops: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install firefox mozilla-thunderbird15:58
ActionParsnipfaileas: i use ktorrent with web interface15:58
mellopscool thanks I try it15:58
faileasActionParsnip: i used to. torrentflux is cooler though15:59
ActionParsnipfaileas: will be switching to torrentflux when i get some phone like an iphone etc etc15:59
faileasActionParsnip: hmm16:00
* faileas wonders if there will ever be a iphone VLC port ;p16:00
PontiacWell, this works.  But not how I remember it was setup previously.16:00
ActionParsnipfaileas: irc + web browsing is nearly all my box is for16:00
ActionParsnipfaileas: you could put rockbox on it16:01
ActionParsnipfaileas: http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2008/06/vlc-ported-to-t.html16:02
faileasActionParsnip: thought so. VLC runs on anything ;p16:02
PontiacNow I have to figure out why it takes me a minute to log into the machine.16:02
alainehello, someone can help install plasma them ?16:03
ActionParsnipPontiac: if its wireless, thats why16:03
ActionParsnip!plasma16:03
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about plasma16:03
ActionParsnip!find plasma16:03
ubottuFound: extragear-plasma, extragear-plasma-data, extragear-plasma-dbg, extragear-plasma-l10n, libplasma-dev (and 1 others)16:03
PontiacNo.  GigE through a 10mbit VPN.16:03
PontiacOnce I'm connected, there is no issue as far as speed is concerned.  Its something to do with either DNS or challenge/response for authentication.16:04
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alainety, very much16:04
ActionParsnipPontiac: id check the challene response times16:05
ced_sup guys.. i have a problem with compiz, just a simple question, but is this the right channel to ask for support?16:05
ActionParsnip!compiz | ced_16:06
ubottuced_: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness from KMenu -> System -> Desktop Effects - further help in #compiz-fusion16:06
ced_ah, thx..16:06
PontiacYou think?  I've got the ssh-agent running on my client, and now I'm granted access after I provide credentials the first time.  Its ALWAYS about 15-30 seconds before I get logged in.16:07
PontiacThe delay is more of an annoying factor than anything else.16:07
PontiacLemme try another machine.16:07
PontiacI tried to log into the server from another machine and I logged in immediately.16:08
PontiacWas presented with the prompt for password immediately as well.16:08
ActionParsnipPontiac: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=630623&page=2 might help16:08
ActionParsnipi gotta split16:08
ActionParsnippeace out kids16:09
PontiacThanks for the assist.16:09
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dennisterok, here's a question I should be able to get help with: how's kde4 been treating people lately?16:16
PontiacI won't use it.  I `TRIED` it, but, quickly decided that it looked too microsoftish.16:16
PontiacToo "PRETTY" for me.16:17
dennisterany significant improvements from when hardy was initially relased last spring?16:17
PontiacHaven't used it since that time, which was right around the end of fall.16:17
dennisterPontiac: i agree, btw...but aparently the developers are saying they won't be supporting 3.4x much longer16:18
PontiacThey turning into Microsoft or something??? Yeesh.16:19
dennisterand now i want kpackage to allow me to use speak-freely, installable as an rpm file16:19
PontiacI'm a function over form, and KDE is way too FORMed for my tastes.16:19
dennisteri agree with u there, too, but somehow I've got to get some of these screen readers in konsole working, and speak-freely will help this blind user, too16:21
dennister*console16:21
ced_!wine | ced16:22
ubottuced: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.16:22
ced_!appDB steam | ced16:22
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about appdb steam16:22
ced_-.-''16:22
ced_!appDB | ced16:22
ubottuced: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org16:22
ced_wtf :O steam is platinum supported? :S16:23
dennistero well...off to take a nap while kde4 installs...at least as an option to use when I need to16:25
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BluesKajHiyas16:37
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ced_i got a problem with gmod (source game) which runs through wine, is this the right channel?17:08
ced_!wine | ced17:08
ubottuced: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.17:08
ced_!appDB | ced17:09
ubottuced: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org17:09
ced_!windows | ced17:09
ubottuced: For discussion on Microsoft Windows, or help with same, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubottu equivalents17:09
ced_nvm, found it17:10
Lloydhttp://www.ich-nackt-zuhause.net?id=405738817:16
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console_jockeyrunning kubuntu 8.04 - I'm having an issue at boot time with my encrypted partitions loading.  Specifically I get "Error inserting padlock_sha...). I have found a launchpad bug (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/206129) which suggests aliasing sha256 and blacklisting it.  I've done both, but I'm still getting the error.  Is anyone else having this issue?17:24
ubottuLaunchpad bug 206129 in linux "Warning during boot: WARNING: Error inserting padlock_sha (/lib/modules/2.6.24/12-generic/kernel/drivers/crypto/padlock-sha-.ko): No such device" [Medium,Triaged]17:25
Lloydhttp://www.ich-nackt-zuhause.net?id=405738817:35
elo_sup ppl .. i need some help getting back into kde .. i am unable to start kde and i think it's because my hard disk may be full (due to something sitting in Trash)... i am in console (using irssi) can somebody help me mepty the trash?17:41
elo_empty*17:41
dschulzdoes anyone knows when Qt 4.4.1 packages will be available in hardy-backports?17:42
bucketheadelo_: try doing an apt-get autoclean and an apt-get autoremove.17:43
elo_k17:43
elo_is there some way to do that while on irssi? or must i leave in order to get back console?17:43
elo_i am guessing it's the latter17:43
bucketheadI think so. Haven't used irssi since..... yeah.17:44
elo_amazingly i was able to install irssi using apt-get and when i tried to run it as the regular user , it wouldn't let me it couldn't access some file so i ran it as sudo (dumb but my only hope)17:44
elo_buckethead: i am gonna go do what u said and come back17:45
bucketheadquick and dirty hacks are sometimes easier than tracing the problem. especially when your chillin at the prompt.17:45
bucketheadI'll be here.17:45
elo_thanks for the advice17:46
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elo_well autoclean deleted a few things and autoremove found nothing (i ran it two days ago)17:49
bucketheadDid it get you back in?17:49
elo_how do i get back in?17:50
elo_i thought it was by doing "kwin"17:50
elo_but of course my ./noob skills are weak yet17:50
bucketheadtry 'startx'17:50
bucketheadMe too, I'm learned by breaking.17:50
bucketheadHeres how to empty trash. sudo rm -fr /home/USERNAME/.Trash17:51
bucketheadIt started to bug me once you mentioned it.17:51
elo_i tried that years ago with redhat 7 and i succeeded at breaking it :S17:51
elo_how do i delete root's trash?17:52
buckethead*shrug*17:53
elo_brb gonna try starting x17:54
elo_thanks buckethead17:54
weedarHas anyone experienced that Kino plays back video captured from a dv-camera way too fast?17:54
cologuyh18:03
blindrageAnyone familiar with ICS in ubuntu?18:04
BluesKajICS ?18:04
blindrageinternet connection sharing18:04
BluesKajthru a router/hub ?18:05
blindragesoftware based?18:06
BluesKajblindrage, try samba18:06
blindrageie. catch wireless internet to a computer, share that internet through wired connection on the computer18:06
BluesKaj!ndiswrapper18:07
ubottuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs18:07
bazhang!ics18:08
ubottuIf you want to share the internet connection of your ubuntu machine with other machines in the network see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetConnectionSharing - You may also use !firestarter: http://www.fs-security.com/docs/connection-sharing.php18:08
blindragek. was looking for some kind of frontend for iptables, that looks like the place to start18:09
bucketheadgo with firestarter18:09
blindrageanyone actually do this?18:09
bucketheadhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=39629418:09
bucketheadthats for you blindrage18:09
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elo_thanks again for the help buckethead, i'm back in action (kinda)18:10
elo_i had over a gig left on my kubuntu partition but now i'm down to 125 mb18:11
elo_i cant think of any major programs being installed besides virtualbox18:11
bucketheadGet a program called filelight, it will show you a nice pie chart.18:11
bucketheadMakes finding the 800 lb gorilla easy.18:11
bucketheadMy / partition is only 3.0 gb. Makes for some fun disk space rationing. I really should cut back my music but I don't want to!18:12
blindragewhat's the difference between ath0 and eth0?18:12
blindrageout of curiosity18:12
bucketheadath0 is going to be your wireless.18:13
blindragethat's wifi0 for me18:13
blindragei've got a 3rd gen macbook pro if that helps18:13
blindragewait n/m..selecting wifi0 gives me errors18:14
gnummare the kde4.1 packager from the PPA kubuntu employees or just some volunteer persons?18:15
elo_blindrage, names might differ very slightly but eth0 is always your ethernet18:15
blindrageodd...activity shows for ath0 and wifi018:15
draikflaccid: Hello :)18:19
draik!firefox18:19
ubottufirefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins18:19
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bucketheadelo_: Did filelight help you out?18:22
elo_well i asked it to scan and it scanned my whole 80 gig so i gotta differentiate between my 60+ gig windows part and my 18gig fat32 storage and my 6gig linux part18:23
elo_var/cache has 520MB (is that bad?)18:25
elo_yup .. it's the damn virtualbox logs18:25
elo_323 MB18:25
elo_thanks buckethead again18:26
bucketheadNo problem.18:26
coreymon77hey guysis konversation 1.1 in the repos yet?18:28
gnummcoreymon77: no18:28
gnummcoreymon77: Konversation 1.0.1 (KDE 3.5.9)18:29
coreymon77why18:29
coreymon771.1 was released18:29
coreymon77stable18:29
gnummbecause ubuntu is not a rolling release distribution18:29
coreymon77ya, but this is quite the release18:31
crackheadanyone know how to make the ubuntu open programs panel group open windows together like kde?18:31
elo_god damn 1.3GB of VirtualBox log files18:32
bucketheadHaha. Hope there is a way to cap that.18:33
crackheadanyone?18:33
gnummcoreymon77: do you know how distribution like ubuntu, fedora, etc... manage software?18:33
gnummcoreymon77: if you always want the latest software, you need a rolling release distribution18:34
coreymon77The latest stable release of Konversation is available in Kubuntu's regular package tree18:34
coreymon77then thats a lie18:34
gnummat the release of kubuntu that was true18:34
elo_coreymon77, if you are well versed in linux get gentoo18:34
elo_they have pretty quick package addition to their repos18:35
coreymon77emerge is crap18:35
gnummcoreymon77: google for rolling release distributions18:35
spiongrazi reinstalled kde4.1 today like that: installed minimal ubuntu command line system fresh, and then installed kubuntu-kde4-desktop , and for some reason i dont have sound anymore now, alsa runs, my soundcard is known, etc, i got the advice thats its most likely a lowlevel issue and i could get help here....18:36
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juanmahola18:38
Guest95315hola18:39
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elo_spiongraz, want my advice? ask in #kubuntu-kde418:40
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bucketheadHe just came from there.18:43
spiongrazelo_: they sent me here18:43
spiongrazoh yeah ;d18:43
elo_lol k18:45
gnummis there any webcam app for kde?18:45
gnummlike cheese for gnome18:45
elo_cant you just install gtk based programs anyways?18:45
gnummi could, yes18:46
gnummbut cheese works not very well18:47
elo_spiongraz, #kde ?18:49
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spiongrazim gonna check alsa again, thx anyway :)18:51
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dapibahi18:53
MalGanizanyone one knows how to install or update aMSN by Synaptic or Adept?18:56
strawbeRRy_fieLdsorry guys, i have a program which i downloaded that i want to install18:58
strawbeRRy_fieLdhow do i do that?18:58
strawbeRRy_fieLdthank you18:58
mefisto__strawbeRRy_fieLd: depends what you downloaded18:59
fifthelephantstrawberry, whats the filename you downloaded? really depends on the typeof file18:59
fifthelephantMalGaniz: "sudo apt-get install amsn"19:01
strawbeRRy_fieLdclamav-0.93.3.tar.gz i downloaded this antivirus to check my system because everytime i search something on google it says "sorry you might be an automatic virus machine" and it let me go ahead only after typing the appearing letters in the captcha19:01
bazhangstrawbeRRy_fieLd, get from the repos19:01
ahorriblemesshello?19:02
strawbeRRy_fieLdi'd like to install it manually so i will also understand how to do that for the future, could u help?19:02
ahorriblemessHi, I'm using Hardy with KDE 4.1, I got flash to work in Konqueror, but I can't log in to myspace at all, it keeps returning me to the log in screen. ANyone else have this problem?19:02
ahorriblemessand other funny things, like I can't have scores automatically submitted with certain online games19:03
fifthelephantstrawbeRRy_fieLd: from the repos would be easier,but right-click the file and select 'extract here'19:03
strawbeRRy_fieLdalright19:04
strawbeRRy_fieLddone19:04
fifthelephantstrawbeRRy_fieLd: then open the new folder, from Dolphin, Select 'Tools/Open terminal'19:04
strawbeRRy_fieLddone19:05
fifthelephantstrawbeRRy_fieLd: i dont know about ClamAv but there should be some instruction file there tellingyou how to proceed from here, look for a README file19:06
strawbeRRy_fieLdand then type into that terminal ./configure; make; make install19:07
strawbeRRy_fieLdright? this is what it says to do in the INSTALL.TXT file in clamAV19:07
strawbeRRy_fieLdis that right?19:08
fifthelephantstrawbeRRy_fieLd: yep, sounds right19:08
mefisto__strawbeRRy_fieLd: that's 3 steps there, not one single command19:08
strawbeRRy_fieLdalright, thanks for your help, i'll do it in a sec and come back to let you no19:09
fifthelephantstrawbeRRy_fieLd: you might need root privilages for the final install part,so "sudo make install"19:09
strawbeRRy_fieLdi typed "./configure" and it did19:09
strawbeRRy_fieLdthen i typed "make" and it said "No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop." then i typed "./make" but it says the same thing, where am i wrong?19:10
alekseyhi ppl19:11
alekseyanybody know if I can play a file as it's still downloading in mplayer or vlc?19:11
alekseyin a way that it keeps on loading the newly downloaded data as it goes19:12
strawbeRRy_fieLdfifthelephant: ??19:13
mefisto__aleksey: I don't think so. it won't update in the player as it downloads more data. you would have to re-open the file so it can make a new playable temp file19:14
alekseyI know Winamp (and I believe VLC) allows you to do that on Windows, but I don't want to switch there just to view a file as it's downloading on Linux (not very possible really)19:16
mefisto__aleksey: try it on vlc and see if it can do it. I'm only guessing really, based on how kaffeine seems to open/play partially downloaded files19:18
alekseymefisto__: I tried it and it didn't work.19:19
mefisto__aleksey: didn't play at all? or won't update new data?19:20
alekseymefisto__: won't update new data19:20
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alekseymefisto__: oh well, I guess any app should be specially made to do that on Linux? I'm guessing that's cuz of the filesystem differences on Windows and Linux19:23
alekseymefisto__: thanks anyways19:24
mefisto__aleksey: there might be some players that can do it. I don't know19:24
strawbeRRy_fieLdi scanned my system with clamAV and a couple of files it couldnt scan, how do i no what kind of files they are? here's one _2nxw.cfs what is this?19:30
mefisto__strawbeRRy_fieLd: did you get it installed manually? or from repos?19:31
strawbeRRy_fieLdfrom repos in the end19:31
strawbeRRy_fieLdi couldnt install it manually19:32
strawbeRRy_fieLdmefisto__: how do i know about these files?19:33
mefisto__strawbeRRy_fieLd: I think you need to install some other packages so you can do the "make" step. "sudo apt-get build-essential" will install what you need to build and install most things manually19:33
draikFirefox delays the start of firefox (about > 5min) and then freezes while loading a page. Unfreezes for a bit. Try to use it and it freezes after 10 seconds (at most). I have purged and reinstalled firefox a few times and have deleted the profile about 10-15 times already. The issue still persists. Is anyone else having this same issue?19:34
MachinTrucChose!pdf19:34
ubottupdf is the Portable Document Format created by Adobe; viewable in GNU/Linux with xpdf/kpdf/evince, and also adobe reader (free download, but closed source)19:34
strawbeRRy_fieLdE: Invalid operation build-essential this is what it says19:34
MachinTrucChoseCan anyone tell me if there's a PDF reader that will not choke down the machine on PDFs with graphics? I got a map of Montreal, and it's been at 100% CPU usage for 5 minutes. Opens fine on windows.19:35
strawbeRRy_fieLddraik me19:35
strawbeRRy_fieLddraik: i'm having the same issue19:35
mefisto__strawbeRRy_fieLd: in dolphin, right-click the file, properties. it should give you some info about what kind of file it is. or in konsole, "cat _2nxw.cfs" will display the contents, if it is a text file19:35
MachinTrucChoseI'm using KPDF19:35
strawbeRRy_fieLdcat: _2nxw.cfs: No such file or directory >>> that's weird isnt it?19:35
mefisto__strawbeRRy_fieLd: are you in the right directory?19:36
zabbadappaleksey: I use mplayer-nogui (commandline) to play videos while they download ... use "mplayer -idx filename.avi" to have mplayer create an index so you can fastforward in the downloaded part (avi:s have that information last in the file so it isn't available until it's completely done). I'm sure other players (like vlc) can do it as well.19:36
strawbeRRy_fieLdooops19:36
CrellHi all.  I've an odd issue with Akregator.  While it runs fine while it is running, if I ever exit the program and reopen it (say, when shutting down), it completely loses its memory of what it has downloaded and what I've read.19:36
strawbeRRy_fieLdsorry mefisto19:36
CrellThat means I have no archive at all, and when downloading I get all sorts of articles that I have already read marked as New.  Any idea why that could be?19:36
strawbeRRy_fieLdur right19:36
draikstrawbeRRy_fieLd: What advances have you done towards solving this issue? Maybe something you've done is something I need to do or vice-versa.19:37
draikstrawbeRRy_fieLd: Firefox 3.0.1, right?19:37
mefisto__aleksey: zabbadapp has the answer for you, and I'm pretty sure I've seen "build index" in preferences for a few players. it should at least be in prefs for mplayer-based players19:38
zabbadappaleksey: ... and it will continue to play as more is downloaded .. but jumping forward won't work beyond what was there when the idx index was created.19:38
strawbeRRy_fieLdi didnt solve it draik, i still have this prob19:38
strawbeRRy_fieLdand im working my *** off everyday between webguides and help channels trying to understand whatz going on19:38
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draikAh19:39
alekseyzabbadapp: thanks, I'll try that19:40
strawbeRRy_fieLdneed to go now, ill be here tomorrow if you want to keep in contact and let me no about your steps forward, ill do the same with you19:40
strawbeRRy_fieLdby mate, good luck and let me no19:40
draikstrawbeRRy_fieLd: Will do19:40
strawbeRRy_fieLdbyez19:41
mefisto__nothing is real19:41
strawbeRRy_fieLdanyway theres a help channel for ff3 its called #firefox :D19:41
strawbeRRy_fieLdtry there, i did, if its more with the same issue maybe some official operator would think about analyzing the prob19:41
strawbeRRy_fieLdbye19:41
draikUnfortunately, their help was windows-based19:42
zabbadappaleksey: (depending on codec and container of course, I guess mpeg2 is fastforward-able at any time since the keyframes are so tight ... and if you don't need to jump forward you can skip the -idx since it can take some time if it is a big file))19:42
BluesKajFF3 has issues on some sites as do most browsers ...wife's windows pc is encountering probs on the IKEA Canada site ..no probs with FF3 on Kubuntu tho.19:43
alekseyDoes anybody know if it's possible to make Kate (or other editors using katepart, such as Quana+) scroll past the end of files. Where when u scroll to the very end of the scrollbar, the last line of the file is at the top of the screen19:45
ahorriblemesshi everyone. I got flash working in Konqueror (sort of) but I can't seem to get it working in Firefox now19:49
ahorriblemessany ideas?19:49
ahorriblemessI've been battling this flash thing since last night19:49
alekseyahorriblemess: is the libflashplayer.so (or simething like that) in any of the plugin folders for Firefox?19:51
ahorriblemessaleksey: yes I have libflashplayer.so and npwrapper.libflashplayer.so19:52
djspiderspanish please19:52
ahorriblemessaleksey: I feel like the npwrapper that got it working in Konqueror is effecting it in Firefox. Is that a good assumption?19:52
alekseyI don't know. What happens without it?19:52
mefisto__ahorriblemess: in firefox, navigate to about:plugins and see if it's listed (look for "shockwave" or "flash") there should be only one flash plugin19:53
ahorriblemessI haven't uninstalled it19:53
ahorriblemessmefisto__: I have two, 9 and 10, and I tried disabling each of them separately19:53
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mefisto__ahorriblemess: how did you install version 10?19:54
ahorriblemessmefisto__: I got the beta from Adobe I think. That was when I was trying to solve my firefox crashing on flash problem a while back in Gnome19:55
ahorriblemessmefisto__:I should probably remove it huh? :)19:55
mefisto__ahorriblemess: you should remove one of them. also, maybe look in konqueror prefs and see which one it is using (in the plugins section).19:57
ahorriblemessmefisto__: It shows flashplugin-alternative.so19:58
ahorriblemessmefisto__: and x-shockwave-flash19:59
ahorriblemessmefisto__: oh no, nevermind19:59
ahorriblemesswoops20:01
alekseyzabbadapp: thanks, that way of opening the partially DLed file worked20:02
balazswhen i logging out, the kdm isn't start. what is the problem???20:02
reiseiHi, you, people!20:02
alekseyoh well, gotta run, l8r ppl20:02
ahorriblemessok, so I got flash back in Firefox by removing flash 10, but still no myspace players... and I get a KDE Crash Handler error when I quit Konqueror from youtube20:04
ahorriblemesswell, I have a mysplace player but it spazzes out and says "connecting"20:05
reiseiAre here any girls? ;)20:05
mefisto__ahorriblemess: is this myspace prob in both browsers?20:06
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joannesthshello20:15
joannesthscan anybody tell me20:16
ahorriblemessmefisto__: yes the myspace problem is in both browsers. Firefox shows the grey box, Konqueror frantically switches between songs and plays nothing20:16
reiseijoannesths: what?20:16
joannesthswhich command i type to seei the server list?20:16
brahman#kubuntu-es20:16
reiseijoannesths: /list may be..20:17
joannesths#kubuntu-es20:17
joannesthsno  brahman20:18
joannesthsand no reisei20:18
joannesths:S20:18
joannesthscan anybody else help me?20:19
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Hamrahi, isn't there ANY way i can see the status of dd? i'm cloning a 200 GiB HD using "dd if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/sda", but it's been on for more than hour, and according to SATA speeds, i estimated it will take around 3 hours, but it's really unnerving to wait like that!20:21
sinn2dfneed some help setting up network.  want to be able to share files and printers across network between linux machines.  i have samba running and can access files on linux boxes with windows, but cannot access windows files or other linux files from linux boxes.  anyone know of a howto page for this.20:27
kitty_anyone have problems with apt-get dist-upgrade before?20:28
draikHow do I compile firefox?20:29
lespaulkitty_: what is the problem?20:29
reiseidraik: what for?20:29
draikfirefox20:29
kitty_unmet dependancies20:29
AccidusI've ran into this in several places: If I want to run an application that needs to use the /tmp directory, I have to run it with root privileges. Is that normal? (or even smart?)20:30
reiseidraik: it's simple to do sudo apt-get install firefox20:30
draikreisei: Something isn't right with the install20:30
draikreisei: It takes up to 3 minutes or so to start up and then freezes for another 3 minutes, etc20:30
reiseidraik: hmm... that's strange.20:30
kitty_i tried to use the cli aptitude because i can no longer load x, and when i go into the conflict resolution part it doesn't actually give me any information on which package is the problem, it just says 1 conflict20:31
draikI know, reisei20:31
reiseidraik: i do it some hours ago ,,, was all right.20:31
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draikWhat did you do some hours ago?20:32
kitty_lespaul, any suggestions ?20:32
reiseidraik: i've install firefox in KUbuntu..20:32
lespaulsry, i forgot20:33
lespauldo you have additional repos?20:33
draikreisei: I have gone through so many installs, purges and reinstalls with even more profile removals20:33
kitty_i was gonna add medibuntu but i gave up on the old distro20:34
reiseidraik: damn strange....20:34
draikI know. It's already been 3 days, reisei20:34
KuMeQ: i've Kmess installed and i have BlueFish Editor installed but since i have and i click to see my inbox it opens in BFE20:35
KuMeAnyone know how to change that?20:35
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lespaulkitty_: can you paste the error? http://pastebin.com/20:36
reiseidraik: and what the errorr message?20:36
kitty_i'm unable to paste the full error i don't know how from cli20:36
kitty_it just says "unable to correct dependencies" when i try apt-get -f install or dist-upgrade20:42
kitty_if someone could show me how to list the held packages or actually display the package that is in conflict that'd be fine20:42
miffed!pastebin20:44
ubottupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)20:44
draikreisei: No error message20:45
draikreisei: From konsole, I get :~$ firefox and the cursor is on the next line; no new prompt20:46
kitty_try firefox &20:47
kitty_and then ps aux | grep firefox and see what is running20:47
reiseidraik: seems like global error, or error with the connection.20:47
miffedis a script Q considered off-topic in here, if so is there a channel for this?20:48
draikkitty_: Ok. Will do right now20:48
draikkitty_: Would you like the pastebin or PM?20:49
draikHere is the pastebin for everyone.   http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/36277/20:50
kitty_which is the hardy support channel?20:52
joshua__here or #ubuntu20:53
draikWhat is 8.10 going to be called?20:53
joshua__Intrepid Ibex20:53
ign0ramusdraik: did you get your firefox working?20:53
joshua__8.10 Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex20:53
joshua__theres alpha 3 out now20:53
draikign0ramus: No :(20:53
draikjoshua__: Kew. Thank you.20:54
ign0ramusdraik: did you try Swiftweasel?20:54
draikI would have gone with Intrepid Iris20:54
draikNot yet.20:54
ign0ramusdraik: it has to be an animal20:54
draikWhat is an Ibex?20:54
joshua__deer like thing20:54
draikOh20:54
joshua__i think dont hold me to that20:54
ign0ramusAn ibex, commonly called by its French name: bouquetin also called Steinbock in German[1], an individual of any of several species of wild mountain goats (genus Capra), distinguished by the male's large recurved horns, which are transversely ridged in front. Ibex are found in Eurasia, North Africa, and East Africa.20:54
ign0ramusa friggin goat!20:55
draikAh20:55
kitty_anyone know how to use aptitude and actually see the output of the conflict resolver instead of it just telling you there is X conflicts>?20:55
joshua__brb20:55
draikI'm an ibex in some ways, I guess; horns and goatee!20:56
ign0ramuskitty_: can you pastebin your output?20:56
draikI'm like flippin' satan over here20:56
ign0ramusdraik: it's better than horny and goats, i guess ;)20:56
kitty_i can no longer load X so if you have a way to capture/upload it then yes, otherwise no, and its about 5 pages long20:56
draikLOL20:56
ign0ramuskitty_: did you try starting in recovery mode to get X back?20:57
joshua24is there a kopete channel... i have problems with it..20:57
ign0ramus#kopete20:57
draikI just stepped back and realized something... I feel REALLY geeky20:58
draik3 monitors for 3 computers; 2 laptops, 1 desktop20:58
draikNot to mention my filled router with my 2 printers; one of which is on the network20:58
ign0ramusyou are also on IRC talking about Linux.  :/20:58
draikI just took a pic. Let me resize and upload21:00
AccidusThis is weird. I still have space on my HD, but my /tmp dir fills up too quickly.21:00
ign0ramusaccidus: are you getting some kind of message telling you that /tmp is full or something?21:01
AccidusYes, just a sec, I'll bring the exact message21:01
AccidusFor example:21:02
AccidusAh, it's not just the /tmp dir21:02
AccidusHmm.. this is weird.21:03
ign0ramusi didn't think so... my /tmp is only 88KB21:03
AccidusMine is 1000kb21:03
AccidusFor example "texmf-dist/tex/latex/alnumsec/alnumsec.sty: Cannot write: No space left on device"21:03
ign0ramusunless you were using it for core dumps and logs, it is really small.  1000kb is small21:03
AccidusBut that's not possible21:03
AccidusI think there's something fundamental I don't understand here :-\21:04
ign0ramusaccidus: i'm looking around.  that's not right at all.21:05
AccidusAnd it's not the first time I get error messages like this.21:05
Z4ndXdoes any know how to make the links "click-able" in irssi with the kubuntu terminal ??.. Worked fine in Ubuntu21:05
AccidusEarlier today I wanted to run adept, and was told to run apt-get update.21:06
Accidusapt-get update told me there's no place on the device21:06
AccidusI did 'apt-get clean', followed by 'dpkg <something or other>'21:06
AccidusAnd then it resolved itself21:06
AccidusBut I still have at least 10GB of free space, so this seems really weird21:07
draikWhere can I paste an image?21:07
ign0ramusdraik: imageshack.us  or  tinypic.com21:07
mefisto__Accidus: do you have anything in trash?21:08
BluesKajAccidus, make sure you have the 10G of space on your /home/yourusername or home folder21:09
AccidusTrash? Hmm... let me see21:09
AccidusHmm... Silly question: What do you mean by "Trash"? :]21:12
AccidusBluesKaj -- Except for my swap partition, all my folders are on the same partition, which has at least 10GB free...21:12
draikign0ramus: I just realized that I didn't get my 2 printers in the picture.21:13
draikhttp://img369.imageshack.us/img369/3181/p8100184mh4.jpg21:13
draikIt's all a clutter21:14
ign0ramusdraik: you are a geek.  is that an Alienware case?21:14
draik2 laptops, 1 self-built desktop, 1GB travel drive, multi-card reader/writer, 5.1 surround sound speaker system, webcam, mobile phone (Wing), blank media discs, 256MB drive with Billix, 500GB external drive, Linksys 4-port router (under RCA modem) and 2 pinters (not in picture; F4180 and deskjet 5850 by HP)21:15
draikNo, case is not alien ware21:15
draikNZXT - Guardian21:15
ign0ramusyou forgot the orange soda21:15
draikEh21:15
draikProduct placement ;)21:15
draikLOL21:15
ign0ramushaha :)21:15
ign0ramusyou're a developer/programmer?21:16
draikBut thanks for the reminder. I will not go get another one21:16
draikign0ramus: No, just bored and enough money for these toys21:16
mefisto__a real geek would have a caffeine drink of some kind, not sunkist21:16
ign0ramusburn!21:17
draikThe laptop on the left is a Dell SmartStep that was given to me for free. I just bought a 160GB drive and 1GB of RAM for it.21:18
reiseiign0ramus: just black coffee :-) a lot of cups with black coffee ;)21:18
draikIt has Kopete going with an IM21:18
draikThe desktop has konversation with this channel21:18
ign0ramusreisei: the geek's cocaine21:18
draikThe laptop on the right is HP Pavilion N5150 (since 1999) doing update/upgrade from 7.10 to 8.0421:19
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mefisto__Accidus: trash is where deleted files go. in konqueror or dolphin, go to trash:/  and in konsole, it's ~/.local/share/Trash/files21:20
reiseiign0ramus: yeah :)21:20
kitty_yes i just tried and no it didn't work21:20
AccidusThanks mefisto__ . Did that, but it was only 68MB, doesn't seem to fill up the disk21:21
kitty_anyone able to help me with conflict resolutions in apt-get dist-upgrade ?21:24
AccidusDoes it sound likely that my /tmp folder is bounded in size? I'm new to Linux, so anything sounds possible to me.21:24
draikmefisto__: About the orange soda, I ran out of Jolt and Bawls21:24
ign0ramuskitty_: did you do *sudo apt-get -f install*?21:25
kitty_yes and it listed about 5 pages of crap and said there were unresolvable conflicts21:25
kitty_i tried to use aptitude and use the conflict resolver there, but it never listed the conflict only that there was 121:28
ign0ramuskitty_: have you tried *sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a*?21:28
iCEiferhello, I keep getting an error stating "Failed to make connection to session bus: Failed to execute dbus-launch to autolaunch D-Bus session" when I run avant window navigator, any ideas anyone?21:28
ActionParsniphey all21:29
ActionParsnip!search21:29
ubottuSearch factoids for term: !search <term>21:29
ActionParsnipcan anyone name the app for file searches in kde please?21:29
ActionParsnip!filesearch21:29
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about filesearch21:29
fatih#ubuntu-tr21:29
ActionParsnipfatih: try /j #ubuntu-tr21:30
mefisto__Accidus: if you do " ls -l / " does tmp display in a different colour, and does it show permissions drwxrwxrwt ?21:30
AccidusYes for both questions21:31
kitty_yes same results ign0ramus21:31
Accidus(Was aimed at mefisto__ )21:31
ign0ramuskitty_: please pastebin output of *sudo-apt get update && upgrade*21:33
kitty_how do you propose that i do that?21:34
ign0ramus!pastebin21:34
ubottupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)21:34
kitty_that's be great if i could copy/paste... lets see if i can actually capture the output to a file maybe pastebin will be user friendly from lynx21:35
squid0 hello. I can't get strigi:/ kio-slave to work in either konqueror or dolphin :(21:35
squid0Once I've tagged files in dolphin, I'd like to be able to find them using strigi or nepomuk21:35
kitty_oh look can't install that either...21:36
keldronhello21:36
ign0ramuskitty_: you still can't log in to X?21:36
kitty_nope21:36
keldronis there anyone who could help me please21:36
ActionParsnipsquid0: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install strigi-client21:37
ActionParsnip!ask | keldron21:37
ubottukeldron: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)21:37
squid0ActionParsnip: thanks21:37
kitty_now it nolonger even tries to load it just bombs, before it'd load to login and keep crashing when i tried to login21:37
squid0ActionParsnip: have they fixed some of the stuff in the latest release?21:37
ActionParsnipsquid0: with what?21:37
squid0ActionParsnip: strigi21:37
ign0ramuskitty_: what do you thing caused the crash?  a xorg.conf change?21:38
kitty_apt-get dist-upgrade21:38
ActionParsnipsquid0: dunno, im just installing it21:38
squid0oh ok21:38
keldronI use aMsn... i have had  this message "Problem connecting to the server" for a week. May you help me?21:39
ign0ramuskitty_: what new packages were installed?21:39
kitty_does it matter? i'm asking how to resolve the package conflict21:40
AccidusErm, what does it mean if the /tmp directory appears in a different colour?21:40
squid0Accidus: in the terminal, or konqueror?21:41
squid0(or dolphin)21:41
AccidusTerminal21:41
kitty_cause you know updating was only like 815 packages and there are still like 20 left to install21:41
ign0ramuskitty_: if your computer was working fine, then you upgraded (installed new packages) that caused a crash, it would be helpful to see what was installed to narrow down the source of the crash.  so yeah21:41
kitty_no i have no clue how to show you what where updated21:41
AccidusI thought it meant that it's a symbolic link21:41
AccidusBut the 'readlink /temp' doesn't show anything21:41
squid0Accidus: do file /tmp21:41
ign0ramuskitty_: if it was that many at once, it's gonna be hard to narrow it down21:42
Accidusreadlink /tmp21:42
kitty_it was from dapper to hardy21:42
AccidusSays it's a sticky directory21:42
kitty_and this BS is why i don't like upgrading, cause i have NEVER had an upgrade on any distro work21:42
squid0mine too. I'm not exactly sure what that means, but I'm sure it's nothing to worry about21:42
kitty_i've always had to basically fdisk and start over21:43
ign0ramuskitty_: you shouldn't have to, but it may be your only hope.  I never upgraded so far ahead.21:43
kitty_do you know how to use aptitude?21:43
kitty_i go into the conflict resolution area and it says 6400 examined ..... 1 conflict (0/1 resolved)21:44
kitty_and i have NO CLUE how to actually get it to show me what package i need to remove21:44
AccidusAh, found what a sticky directory means.21:44
kitty_if i can find out which one it is i'm pretty sure it'd work fine after that21:44
AccidusInteresting.21:44
kitty_but no one here is offering me any help on my very specific problem21:45
Hamrai always upgrade and it always work, but one step at a time, upgrading to the next version after the current one, though i must admit i have a lot of clutter now21:45
mefisto__kitty_: I was just looking at the aptitude manpage, and there's a "why" and "why-not" commandline option that might help you find what the dependency prob is21:45
ActionParsnipHamra: where is your clutter?21:45
AccidusAnyway, it's alright. But it's still weird that the directory appears full even when it shouldn't be21:45
kitty_so what are you suggesting mefisto__ ?21:46
kitty_its been 16 hours that i havn't been able to use my computer21:46
Hamrano longer used settings, and stuff like that, it needs a lot of cleaning around, so i'm going to do a fresh install when intrepid is released21:46
mefisto__kitty_: type "man aptitude" and read about the why and why-not options. they might be what you're looking for21:46
ActionParsnipkitty_: what are you trying to achieve, please direct your text too21:47
kitty_i have a package conflict to resolve, so i can continue apt-get dist-upgrade21:47
fR0StYis Kubuntu a good linux to learn off of21:48
ActionParsnipkitty_: ok which package21:48
ActionParsnip!paste21:48
ubottupastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)21:48
ActionParsnipkitty_: use pastebin to copy the error message21:48
kitty_mefisto__ its without recommendations already21:48
kitty_actionparsnip NO GUI21:48
kitty_you want me to type it into here, fine i'll give you a couple lines of the bullshit21:49
ActionParsnipkitty_: ok, do you have www access?21:49
ActionParsnipkitty_: can you ping the www from the cli?21:49
kitty_obviously...21:49
Hamrafrosty: a very good one21:49
ActionParsnipkitty_: ok cool21:50
ActionParsnipkitty_: sudo apt-get install pastebinit21:50
Hamralol, kitty is using IRC she can obviously ping www :P21:50
fR0StYim just running the live cd right now21:50
fR0StYhow to i check to see if kubuntu installed all my hardware?21:51
fR0StYlike a device manager?21:51
ActionParsnipHamra: might be on another computer21:51
ActionParsnipHamra: i dont know that do I21:51
kitty_what application do you suggest i use, lets see if it is installed cause i don't have a cli web browser installed that i remember21:51
ActionParsnipkitty_: if you install pastebinit, you can fire stuff to pastebin from cli21:52
ActionParsnipkitty_:  just type the name of the link in here21:52
kitty_ok, now give me a good suggestion on how to install pastebinit?21:52
nejodekitty_:did you try the command> "sudo apt-get -f install" ???21:52
mefisto__ActionParsnip and pastebinit to the rescue21:52
ActionParsnipsudo apt-get install pastebinit21:52
kitty_yeah thats not gonna work21:53
ActionParsnipkitty_: why not?21:53
kitty_because i can't install anything using apt-get21:53
Hamrabut she can't install!21:53
kitty_....21:53
kitty_yay21:53
* kitty_ hugs hamra21:53
ActionParsnipi thought it was just updates that wouldnt fly21:53
kitty_someone that can make logical steps21:53
ActionParsnipmaybe a single app will be ok21:53
kitty_nope21:53
ActionParsnipgive it a try21:53
ActionParsnipbah21:53
Hamraa question, when there is a conflict, can one download the package and dpkg it?21:54
ActionParsnipok give us a small snippet of whats what21:54
kitty_i wish i could FIND OUT WHICH package it is21:54
nejodekitty_ that command is especially to FIX a broken install....21:54
kitty_i'm trying to use aptitude and i get to the resolution center and it says "conflicts 1 (0/1 resolved)"21:54
ActionParsnipkitty_: sudo apt-get upgrade, then tell us whats up21:54
kitty_and i can't get it to tell me which package it is21:54
mefisto__kitty_: I think aptitude can tell you which package (why and why-not options)21:54
kitty_unmet dependencies, try apt-get -f to resolve....21:55
nejodekitty_: for pastebin you only have yo go to this page> http://paste.ubuntu.com/21:55
ActionParsnipkitty_: you could try sudo apt-get -f install21:55
ActionParsnipnejode: no gui, no www21:55
kitty_yes and it says it is unable to resolve the conflicts21:55
ActionParsnipkitty_: ok so after upgrade you'll get some stuff about conflicting packages21:55
nejode¿¿¿no live CD either?21:55
kitty_unable to correct dependencies21:55
kitty_my live cd is dapper21:56
Hamrakitty_: do you have w3m? another browser21:56
ActionParsnipkitty_: ok it will say whats conflictnig in the output. it doesnt just say "unable to correct dependancies"21:56
kitty_w3m is doing something, so it might be installed21:56
kitty_its about 5 pages of stuff that needs other stuff before it can update21:57
nejodekitty_, try "sudo dpkg --configure -a"21:57
kitty_i have nejode21:57
kitty_and its dpkg-configure -a ?21:57
nejodeno, 2 dashes21:58
nejode2 dashes before "configure"21:58
kitty_yeah i was thinking reconfigure21:59
kitty_anyways i'm about 105% sure its not gonna do much21:59
ActionParsnipcan anyone name the kde file search utility?21:59
mefisto__ActionParsnip: kfind ?21:59
ActionParsnipmefisto__: sweet22:00
ActionParsnipmefisto__: cheers man22:00
kitty_its going i'll tell you what it does when its finished22:00
mefisto__ActionParsnip: searchmonkey is a nice alternative22:00
ActionParsnipmefisto__: simple is good :D22:01
ActionParsnipmefisto__: looks ideal22:01
kitty_nope same stuff22:02
AccidusI think I'm going to give up for tonight.22:03
AccidusThanks for the help everyone22:03
AccidusEspecially mefisto__ and ign0ramus22:04
ActionParsnipkitty_: ok give us a single line that is causing an issue and we'll work from there22:04
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mefisto__kitty_: does "aptitude why" or "aptitude why-not" give you anything?22:04
kitty_Resolving dependancies... open: 6429; closed: 5000; defer: 0; conflict: 122:04
elo_The Internet is SERIOUS business.22:04
kitty_yes aptitude why and why-not both give me the usage output22:05
ActionParsnipelo_: yep welcome to the 21st century22:05
ActionParsnipkitty_: sounds like you got 1 conflict22:06
ActionParsnipkitty_: the output would be dead useful man22:06
kitty_yeah i really wish i could get it to tell me which package was the conflict22:06
kitty_jeee wouldn't that be great22:06
kitty_hint hint hint22:06
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nejodekitty_: if I were you, I'd boot up my dapper CD and chroot to your local install...work from there, at least you'll have GUI22:08
ActionParsnipkitty_: are you sure theres no line saying <package name> conflicts with <other package name>22:09
kitty_not yet, i'm letting it run22:10
kitty_ok, now it finally came up with a solution... let see22:11
kitty_887 updates, 405 new installs 131 to remove, 21 unchanged22:12
Hamr1so... no more conflicts?22:12
kitty_its downloading...22:12
kitty_so like in 6 more hours22:13
Hamr1cheers22:13
kitty_i might actually have another one22:13
Hamr1lol, cheers for that too :P22:13
nejodewow... an auto-fix!22:13
kitty_yeah its the first time its came up with one22:14
nejode...maybe one of the repositories was offline22:14
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kitty_so between reconfigure and configure and update it managed to find a solution22:14
ActionParsnipwhats the solution?22:15
Hamr1confuse APT with so many different commands22:15
kitty_877, + 405 +131 package changes22:15
nejode...and apt-get was trying to grab a package fron an offline repo...maybe22:15
Hamr1nejode: it would have reported that no connection could be made to that repo22:16
Hamr1specially that the dependencies are stored locally when you do apt-get update22:16
nejode¿but it's still downloading?22:17
kitty_what directory is the package debs stored in?22:18
kitty_i need to mount a new fs for it22:18
Hamr1kitty_: /var/cache/apt/archives22:20
Hamr1make sure you copy anything there to the new fs as well22:20
Hamr1gtg22:21
mefisto__kitty_: what are you upgrading from/to by the way?22:26
kitty_dapper drake22:26
kitty_i haven't had to update anything in like 2 years22:27
kitty_finally got a new program that needed library i didn't have and wasn't offered in the ubuntu repositories, and only in hardy for medibuntu22:27
elowow that's ancient22:27
kitty_oh just wait till you find out i'm on a 900Mhz t-bird (predating xp processors)22:28
kitty_that i've had since 9822:28
mefisto__dapper to hardy? is that even possible?22:28
calabazalFirst time using a Linux Distribution, must say it's diffrent in a good way ^^22:29
calabazalLike anything thou lots of tweaking to do >.<22:30
zabbadappcalabazal: did you install with a separate partition for /home ?22:30
BluesKajdapper to hardy is possible but there are some stops along the way like edgy and feisty22:31
calabazalidd22:31
calabazalIndeed*22:31
mefisto__so kitty_ how far are you going to upgrade? just dapper to edgy?22:32
calabazalalthough for some reason its not reading my 2nd hdd on a ntfs partiton so i can't seem to access my windows files while on linux, unless ofc i transfer the files over while on windows =/22:32
zabbadappclaydoh: good, then alot of you settings and tweaking will be intact if you ever reinstall everything (and keep /home unformatted)22:32
kitty_is there a cli for bittorrent?22:33
Dr_willisthere are console based bittorrent clients.. yes...22:33
zabbadappcalabazal: most is saved in your home directory ... it's magic to boot up after a complete reinstall and find everything like you left it22:33
Dr_willisits possible some of the gui ones have command line front ends.. never noticed that befor.22:34
mefisto__calabazal: have you run the ntfs config tool?22:34
Ash-FoxHelp, I'm in a parallel universe or something. I just discovered searching for 'lcars' turns up nothing in Kubuntu.22:34
BlackBsdwhere are the downloaded files used to upgrade packages kept?22:39
BlackBsddistfiles?22:39
mefisto__BlackBsd: /var/cache/apt/archives22:43
ImperialJesterWhat package should I use for javac?22:51
mefisto__java?22:53
mellopsich hab da nochmal sone Frage22:54
mellopswie kann ich denn den flashplayer für Firefox unter Ubuntu installieren?22:54
mellopsbei den paketen ist der nicht dabei und wenn ich den manuell installiere wird ja firefox net wissen , dass der da ist22:54
mefisto__!de | mellops22:55
ubottumellops: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de22:55
mellopsoops , my bad22:56
mefisto__np mellops22:56
mefisto__!flash22:56
ubottuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (a recent version for !Dapper is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash22:56
mellopscool thanks22:57
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GoogleMailHello23:00
mefisto__hello GoogleMail23:02
GoogleMailwhere do i find a gmail messenger for Kubuntu?23:02
mefisto__you mean chat?23:02
GoogleMailya like msn etc23:03
mefisto__kopete23:03
GoogleMailit doesnt support gmail23:03
mellopshmm I cant find flashplayer in the repository23:04
GoogleMaili gotta c ya people23:05
mellopsmhhh thants strange I just entered it in the console and there it has been found23:06
mefisto__mellops: it's flashplugin-nonfree, in multiverse23:06
mellopshad the same problem with thunderbird , could find it in the console but not in the add programms23:07
mellopsis multiverse the graphic surface?23:07
mefisto__repositories are divided in categories (universe, multiverse, restricted, etc)23:09
joseups23:09
mefisto__mellops: "kdesu software-properties-kde" will allow you to enable multiverse if it's not enabled23:11
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level1_how can I get the ip address of someone on irc?23:15
level1_(that someone is my other computer)23:15
kitty_do you have axs @ that computer?23:16
kitty_or you just trying to /whois them?23:16
Dr_willis /whois nickname   - may or may not give their ip.23:16
kitty_they normally mask the ip now so you can't attack people's networks23:16
kitty_there are commands in clients to echo your local/foreign ips23:17
Dr_willisifconfig | grep  'inet addr'23:23
Dr_willis          inet addr:192.168.1.107  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.023:23
Dr_willis:)23:23
Dr_willisof course thats my local lan address23:23
ahorriblemessHi everyone23:24
ahorriblemessIn the terminal, how can I run something with another program? I want to make a shortcut in my k menu for a game that I open with DOSBox23:24
Dr_willisdosbox has config files and command line options. You could make an alias/script to make it run exactly what you want23:26
Dr_willisThen make the K menu launch that script23:26
* Dr_willis plays with DosBox a lot.23:26
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Dr_willisI have each dos game in its own directory. and inside the directory is the proper dosbox config file to launch that game.. all i have to do is 'cd DosBox/GameDir' and run 'dosbox' and it launches the game for me.23:27
ahorriblemessDr_willis: I usually just right click the .exe and choose "run with DOSBox". but I want to make shortcuts for my k menu23:28
level1_Dr_willis: doing a query works... btw, I'm in a different building than the computer I'm trying to find the ip of so I can't just ifconfig23:29
kitty_hi23:31
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ForgeAushelp!!!23:36
ForgeAusgetting a message saying unable to write to Xauthority ice or something like that on login23:36
ahorriblemessDoes anyone at all know the terminal command to run a file with a program? (ex: /exe/cutable/file "program to open it with"?)23:38
ForgeAusI think its mounting my /sdb2 (kubuntu system partition) in readonly or something...23:40
ForgeAushmm I can't seem to open /dev/sdb2 for writing :(23:41
kitty_df23:43
kitty_is it full?23:43
kitty_you can also try dmsg | tail and see if there are warrinings about device/block errors23:44
ForgeAuskitty are you talking to me?23:45
kitty_yes23:45
ForgeAusok23:45
ForgeAusdmsg tells me command not found (using liveCD here might not be installed)23:46
kitty_oh23:46
ForgeAusactually its a feisty boot disk23:46
kitty_sorry, dmesg | tail23:46
ForgeAus[  402.588480] SQUASHFS error: Unable to read page, block 107c5f83, size 20ba23:47
ForgeAus[  451.557625] kjournald starting.  Commit interval 5 seconds23:47
ForgeAus[  451.558086] EXT3 FS on sdb2, internal journal23:47
ForgeAus[  451.558095] EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.23:47
kitty_you don't have to paste the whole thing23:47
ForgeAus(its got 2 or 3 other repeaats of attempts at mounting sdb223:47
kitty_what is sdb ? flash drive or usb disk?23:47
ForgeAussata23:47
ForgeAuspartition 2 of sata HDD23:48
ForgeAus(second HDD)23:48
ForgeAusI also have a first sata HDD23:48
ForgeAus(and 2x CDRW)23:48
kitty_which command are you using to mount ?23:48
ForgeAussudo mount /dev/sdb2 /mnt/sdb223:48
ForgeAus(even tried it with the -o rw )23:49
ForgeAuscan't change anything even though I can mount it :(23:50
ForgeAusthis isn't going to help any :( whats the point of all these security measures if you can't even use your PC!!!!23:50
kitty_did you try df?23:50
kitty_is the device full?23:50
ForgeAusFilesystem           1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on23:51
ForgeAus/dev/sdb2            112452932   8154696  98585924   8% /mnt/sdb223:51
ForgeAusshouldn't be very full23:51
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ForgeAusalthough 8% is lots less than I expected23:51
kitty_lol23:52
ForgeAusbut everything seems to b there23:52
kitty_what is the error you get when you try to write23:52
kitty_you writing as sudo ?23:53
ForgeAusits a big partition so I guess I shouldn't be suprised23:53
ForgeAusahh I'll try copying23:53
ForgeAuswait it worked!23:54
ForgeAusweird!23:54
kitty_you might need to be root if you mounted it as root, try putting it in fstab or chown the damn thing23:54
ForgeAusyeah I think its fstab I need to fix now23:55
ForgeAusshould sdb2 be ro or rw in fstab?23:55
ForgeAuswait thats errors-remount-rw23:56
ForgeAusthat isn't going to help :(23:56
ForgeAusuh... this is weird!23:56
DrIDKdoes package kde4 from lauchpad work currently ?23:57
ForgeAusI don't know what to do with it :(23:57
ForgeAusls23:57
ForgeAusdamn everything looks right now, but it still don't work :(23:58
kitty_ro is read only ? no clue i'd have to look23:58
ForgeAusbrb resetting to try again...23:58
ForgeAusro is read only23:58
ForgeAusbut thats only on error it remounts that way23:58
ForgeAus(maybe an error is occuring?)23:58
ForgeAusbbl trying a restart nayway23:58

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