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mtaylorwhere can I file questions about translations?00:39
mtaylorI've had a new .pot file in "Needs Review" status for over a week now.00:39
thumpermtaylor: if you file the question against launchpad it will be shuffled to the right person01:33
mtaylorthumper: ok. so just against launchpad itself...01:34
mtaylorthanks01:34
thumperyes01:34
outimeHey guys... how it's possible that I've activated "restricted translations" to my project, and the members of the translation group can't make any changes?01:43
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lifelesscan I delete bug comments like https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/bzr-hg/+bug/53220/comments/2 yet ?02:30
ubottuLaunchpad bug 53220 in bzr-hg ".bzr becomes very large..." [Undecided,Incomplete]02:30
lifelessthey are total noise02:30
radixlifeless: who _is_ that guy03:18
radixis he a robot?03:19
wgrantI doubt it.03:19
wgrantIt's normal Ubuntu policy to do that.03:19
radixI've seen a bunch of comments with that exact text03:19
wgrantBut he apparently decided to start outside Ubuntu.03:19
radixoh, fun03:19
radixhe did that to a bug I was subscribed to when it was clear that it was the maintainer who needed to respond to the information provided, not the reporter who needed to provide more information03:20
radixthat was pretty annoying03:20
radixor maybe someone who uses the same form letter, I dunno03:20
wgrantYes, some people aren't robots but certainly act like them.03:20
ajmitchmakes for easy bug triage, and big numbers at the end of the day03:35
* Hobbsee smashes head against the wall03:48
Hobbseehow the hell am i supposed to find anything on this new abomination of a page?03:48
Hobbseeoh.  there.  far right hand side, in the middle of the page.  thanks, page find.03:49
wgrantWhich page now?03:50
HobbseeSource and binaries deleted by Sarah Hobbs request:03:50
Hobbseeshould be s/by/at/, too03:50
Hobbseewgrant: +archive.  trying to delete package.s03:50
wgrantAh.03:51
lifelessajmitch: what he's doing is not triage03:59
lifelessI mailed him04:00
lifelessits his first time working on bugs04:00
lifelessand 'someone' told him a bug with no comment in a while can be closed04:01
wgrantWas it even Incomplete?04:01
Hobbseei do note that on the bug days, a lot of people don't seem to be around.04:01
lifelesswgrant: it was incomplete; but that's really not important04:02
lifelesssorry, it was 'status incomplete'04:02
* Hobbsee tells the guy who feels he's helping by pointing out wishlist bugs, only, that he should find better things to do.04:03
lifelessHobbsee: but will he still be able to walk when you've told him04:03
Hobbseelifeless: yeah.04:04
Hobbsee:P04:04
lifelessyou're getting soft04:04
lifeless:)04:04
Hobbseehe's missed the point completely.04:05
Hobbseeah well04:05
Hobbseei guess people like to feel like they're making a difference, when, for all intents and purposes, they aren't, and coudl be replaced with a very small shell script04:07
emgentsome launchpad dev here?06:18
mwhudsonyes, but: it's my sunday afternoon :)06:19
emgentheheh true06:20
khajaviHelp. I create a new project in launchpad https://code.launchpad.net/~khajavi/+junk/yastwitt and now I add two subscriber to this project. subscribers of my project cant update the branch07:49
khajavihow can I set their permissions to edit Branch?07:51
wgrantkhajavi: That's correct - subscription grants no rights.07:51
wgrantYou've also not created a project, merely a branch.07:51
wgrantYou want https://launchpad.net/projects/+new to register a project.07:51
wgrantYou should then create a team, and add to that the people who should be able to write to the branch.07:52
wgrantThen change the ownership of the branch to that new team.07:52
khajaviwgrant: thanks07:52
capiscuas1982I have a question, I registered a new project in LaunchPad, also a new branch08:58
capiscuas1982how can I get the branch from bzr ?08:58
capiscuas1982i get this08:58
capiscuas1982yen@yen-laptop:/tmp/babiloo$ bzr branch lp:babiloo08:59
capiscuas1982Enter passphrase for key '/home/yen/.ssh/id_rsa':08:59
capiscuas1982bzr: ERROR: Not a branch: "bzr+ssh://capiscuas@bazaar.launchpad.net/~babiloo-developers/babiloo/trunk/".08:59
mwhudsoncapiscuas1982: you need to push to the branch08:59
mwhudsoncapiscuas1982: registering the branch in the webapp doesn't create the filesystem-level branch08:59
capiscuas1982how to?08:59
mwhudsoncreate the branch locally: bzr init babiloo-trunk09:00
mwhudsonthen add some files, commit them or whatever09:01
mwhudsonthen push the branch to launchpad: bzr push lp:babiloo (from inside the branch directory)09:01
capiscuas1982oh, many thanks, let me try09:02
capiscuas1982i did yen@yen-laptop:/tmp/babiloo$ bzr push lp:babiloo --use-existing-dir , and it worked09:06
capiscuas1982mwhudson: thanks09:06
mwhudsoncool09:06
mwhudsonsorry for this being so confusing :)09:06
capiscuas1982hehe, no problem, now I got this on the site https://code.launchpad.net/~babiloo-developers/babiloo/trunk09:09
capiscuas1982Repository format:  Packs containing knits without subtree support09:09
capiscuas1982is that normal? when I will get subtree support, when I'll commit some folder ?09:10
mwhudsonthat's entirely normal, yes09:10
mwhudson'subtree support' is about having branches that contain other branches09:11
mwhudsonrather than just files and directories09:11
Peng_(Also, it's more or less experimental.)09:11
mwhudson(we should display less confusing messages here, i think there's a but about this somewhere)09:11
mwhudsonPeng: more than less, i think...09:11
capiscuas1982I cannot see the messages09:13
capiscuas1982Get this branch: bzr branch lp:babiloo09:13
capiscuas1982Update this branch: bzr push lp:babiloo09:13
capiscuas1982in the site09:13
capiscuas1982will this appear later?09:13
mwhudsonsorry, i don't really understand09:14
mwhudsonfwiw, *I* see "You cannot upload to this branch. Members of The Developers of the Babiloo Project  can upload to this branch. "09:14
capiscuas1982that is normal right? only us, developers should have right to commit in that branch09:17
mwhudsonright09:18
* RainCT notes again that the remove dependency from blueprints feature is broken13:07
gnomefreakim getting dpkg-buildpackage errors from PPA builds but builds fine localy13:54
gnomefreakto be exact FAILED [dpkg-buildpackage died]13:55
gnomefreakPurging chroot-autobuild/build/buildd/firegpg-0.5.113:55
wgrantYour build process is buggy.13:56
wgrantWhat's the actual error? That's not it.13:56
Ursinhagnomefreak, what the log says?13:57
gnomefreakmake: *** No rule to make target `firegpg.xpi', needed by `stamp-extension-install'.  Stop.13:57
gnomefreakdpkg-buildpackage: failure: /usr/bin/fakeroot debian/rules binary gave error exit status 213:57
wgrantThere's your problem.13:57
gnomefreakfull log http://launchpadlibrarian.net/16689185/buildlog_ubuntu-intrepid-i386.firegpg_0.5.1-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz13:57
gnomefreakwgrant: it builds fine localy13:57
Ursinhalet me see13:57
wgrantgnomefreak: In a pbuilder or similar?13:58
gnomefreakmy system13:58
gnomefreakneither i built it on my intrepid system13:58
Ursinhagnomefreak, you should test on a clean environment13:58
gnomefreaki just built and uploaded hardys that was in a chroot13:58
Ursinhamaybe your package is missing to require dependencies13:58
gnomefreakUrsinha: there arnt any13:59
gnomefreakthere is one build-dep13:59
wgrantgnomefreak: You cannot assert that it builds fine locally unless you do it in a pbuilder or sbuild.13:59
Ursinhagnomefreak, have you tried to build it in a fresh intrepid image?13:59
Ursinhaagree with wgrant13:59
gnomefreakUrsinha: this is about as fresh as it gets13:59
Ursinhagnomefreak, you have to try it with pbuilder14:00
Ursinhaand if it builds ok, try to figure out what can it be14:00
wgrantSoyuz's buildd setup does some strange things, but that's not one of them.14:00
Ursinhabut for now it's inaccurate to assume that14:00
gnomefreakUrsinha: fine ill try my intrepid chroot but since 2 of us built it and it build fine i doubt it will change14:00
wgrantbuild.sh: 112: zip: not found14:00
wgrantYour build dependencies lose.14:00
Ursinhagnomefreak, see?14:00
gnomefreakzip build-dep maybe upstream changed it but that isnt my fault is it?14:01
gnomefreaklet me see if its in build-deps14:02
Ursinhaguess it should14:02
persiagnomefreak: Only in the sense that you didn't test in a clean environment to check.14:02
gnomefreakits not there upstream had to of added it with 0.5.114:02
gnomefreakpersia: i tested it on a clean system14:02
wgrantIsn't an XPI just a ZIP in the first place?14:03
wgrantgnomefreak: That doesn't count.14:03
persiagnomefreak: Yes, but not sufficiently clean.14:03
wgrantubuntu-desktop is *enormous*.14:03
gnomefreakother than tbird and a few other packages its clean14:03
wgrantNot clean.14:03
wgrantVery very polluted.14:03
Ursinhagnomefreak, clean is fresh14:03
gnomefreakenormous wont change outcome14:03
wgrantIt will.14:03
persiaUmm.  Even a system with X is not clean (personally, I think even a system with ubuntu-minimal is not clean)14:03
wgrantYou must depending on anything that isn't build-essential.14:03
wgrant*must be depending14:03
wgrantNot just stuff that isn't in ubuntu-desktop.14:04
Ursinhapersia, hm, i'm calling clean a system that was just created by pbuilder14:04
persiaAlso, the way that something builds may vary if other things are installed on the local system than that appearing in the build-depends.14:04
gnomefreakwgrant: it never had zip as a build-dep until 0.5.114:04
gnomefreakso i will add it adn rebuild14:04
persiagnomefreak: Right.  Upstream changed stuff.  It's good to check.14:04
Ursinhagnomefreak, that's why you should have a fresh and clean install14:04
Ursinhathings may change and you won't notice them14:04
wgrantYou must always test in a proper environment before uploading.14:05
Ursinhaunless you test properly14:05
persiaUrsinha: One should *build* in a buildd environment, and test in a clean install.14:05
Ursinhapersia, yes, that is what i tried to say, thanks14:06
Ursinhathe idea, i mean14:06
khajaviI create a https://launchpad.net/yastwitt project, how can I add members(developer) to it?14:25
persiakhajavi: You'd need an associated group14:27
persias/group/team/14:27
khajaviyou mean that I would create new team?14:28
khajavipersia: ^14:29
capiscuas1982hi guys, why there is no button in LP to remove/rename releases?14:29
RainCTcapiscuas1982: you can change the code name clicking on "Change details"14:50
RainCTabout the release name, I guess that's because it would change the URLs (dunno why you can't remove one, though)14:50
persiaMaybe in the spirit of not changing history?14:51
RainCTmaybe, but UI's should forgive. if you can't remove releases, if you create one accidentally you're screwed14:55
sabdfl+1 to that, RainCT14:58
HobbseeRainCT: but russian roulette is fun!14:59
persiaRainCT: Hmm.  I see the point.  I fear removals while external links exist, but fixing mistakes is always nice.15:01
RainCTpersia: Right, but you can already remove downloadable files, so you can break links anyway15:04
persiaRainCT: Ah.  That takes away any value for preserving releases then.15:05
khajavihelp, I want to push my project but I get following error:  bzr push lp:yastwitt15:32
khajaviTransport operation not possible: http does not support mkdir()15:32
khajavihow can I push my project via bzr+ssh ?15:33
khajavianyone could help me?15:35
RainCTkhajavi: Have you added your SSH key(s) to Launchpad?15:37
khajaviyes15:37
khajaviI know that I cant edit branch by http protocol15:37
khajavihow can I use another protocol15:37
RainCTkhajavi: and have you done  bzr lp-login <username>  ?15:38
RainCTUhm... If there's any dev around, is it possible to use launchpadlibs without authenticathing, for read-only operations (so that we can use it for REVU)?15:39
khajaviRainCT: thanks for your response :-D15:41
RainCTkhajavi: you're welcome :)15:41
LeefmcQuestion: Does Launchpad project hosting offer a wiki? I'm not seeing one, but it feels weird that they offer so much, but no wiki16:51
RainCTLeefmc: No, it doesn't.16:53
Leefmcodd16:53
Leefmck thanks16:53
LeefmcRainCT: And just to make sure, does it provide something 'like' a wiki? (Some place to store docs, etc)16:54
RainCTLeefmc: Well, perhaps the Answers tracker (which also lets you create a FAQ), but I don't think that's what you want16:55
LeefmcRainCT: Hmm yea. Very odd hah :), any idea why no wiki is provided? It seems launchpads features are pretty extensive, but a wiki is a pretty basic item these days16:56
Leefmc(not complaining, just inquiring)16:56
RainCTLeefmc: Because there's more prioritary stuff they have to work on first, I guess16:58
Leefmcgotcha :)16:58
RainCTLeefmc: If you just want to create some pages, there are wikis where you can do that (I remember that I've heard about a wiki for Qt applications, but I don't know where it was..)16:59
LeefmcYea, its just that i cant find anything, just more that i'd prefer it to be all in one place :). No biggie17:00
Leefmcerm. just=not17:03
Leefmc*drinks more coffee17:03
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hansengelHi, I was just trying to get the API working.. it was doing fine with GET requests, but now I've tried to do a PUT request and it keeps telling me 'Unknown consumer (None).'22:42
hansengelHere's my curl command:22:42
hansengel curl -iX PUT -H "Content-Type: application/json" https://api.edge.launchpad.net/beta/bugs/249722 -d "{'oauth_token':'<token>','oauth_signature_method':'PLAINTEXT','oauth_signature':'&<secret token>','oauth_consumer_key':'just testing','oauth_timestamp':'$(ts)','oauth_nonce':'<nonce>','oauth_version':'1.0','description':'apitest'"22:43
ubottuLaunchpad bug 249722 in twitkit/1.0 "URL shortening service needs to be changed to ½.ws" [Low,Confirmed]22:43
hansengeloh :P didn't put brace at the end of the JSON.. will try that22:44
hansengelnope, still isn't working22:44
hansengelby the way - `ts` is a program that I wrote - returns a Unix timestamp22:45
hansengelam I not supposed to put the OAuth stuff inside JSON?22:45

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