[02:12] <Pici> Did I miss anything?
[02:50]  * Pici sighs
[04:19] <nalioth> yep, handled
[04:19] <meoblast001> ahhh
[04:19] <meoblast001> i ranomly got kicked out of #ubuntu into some #ubuntu-read-topic
[04:19] <meoblast001> help
[04:19] <Flannel> meoblast001: Did you read te topic in #ubuntu-read-topic? :)
[04:19] <meoblast001> yes
[04:20] <meoblast001> h/o brb
[04:20] <nalioth> meoblast001: please heed it
[04:20]  * Flannel doesn't even knwo what it says.
[04:20] <Flannel> something about 8001, but how do yuo get the floodbots to test you?
[04:20] <Pici> holycow: can we help you?
[04:20] <Pici> Flannel: type: test me
[04:20] <Pici> holycow: can we help you?
[04:22] <meoblast001> screw this
[04:22] <meoblast001> i followed the thing
[04:22] <meoblast001> and if they dont want me in #ubuntu, i guess i'll not go there
[04:22] <meoblast001> im hanging out here now
[04:23] <Pici> meoblast001: excuse me?
[04:23] <Pici> I dont see that you followed the directions, you need to type test me in the channel
[04:23] <meoblast001> they keep telling me to go to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixDCCExploit
[04:23] <meoblast001> i already did that
[04:23] <Pici> did you?
[04:23] <meoblast001> oh
[04:23] <meoblast001> i didnt know i was
[04:25] <meoblast001> * Received a malformed DCC request from FloodBot2.
[04:25] <meoblast001> * Contents of packet: DCC SEND 1234567890abcdef
[04:25] <meoblast001> * Received a malformed DCC request from FloodBot3.
[04:25] <meoblast001> * Contents of packet: DCC SEND 1234567890abcdef
[04:25] <meoblast001> is that bad?
[04:25] <Hobbsee> meoblast001: it's better than throwing you off the network, yes.
[04:25] <nalioth> meoblast001: please don't do that
[04:26] <meoblast001> i didnt get thrown off the network
[04:26] <meoblast001> just the channel
[04:26] <nalioth> meoblast001: you got reconnected to the whole internet
[04:27] <meoblast001> ?
[04:27] <nalioth> that attack reset your router
[04:42] <Pici> meoblast001: Anything else we can help you with?
[04:42] <meoblast001> Pici: not really
[04:42] <Pici> !idle
[04:43] <meoblast001> oh
[04:43] <meoblast001> sorry
[04:43] <Pici> :)
[04:43] <meoblast001> i forgot to close the tab
[04:46] <jimmygoon> Is there a problem with floodbot or is it on my end? I can't seem to join #ubuntu after being redirected to #ubuntu-proxy-users, even after I wait awhile and get the go ahead from the bot
[04:48] <Pici> jimmygoon: try again please
[04:49] <jimmygoon> Thanks Pici
[04:50] <Pici> jimmygoon: sure
[09:15]  * Myrtti yawns
[09:24]  * jussi01 sighs
[09:25] <Myrtti> No, dont call me
[09:25] <Myrtti> Ill get up!
[09:25] <Myrtti> Promise!
[09:26] <Myrtti> :-)
[09:26] <jussi01> :D
[09:26]  * jussi01 terrorizes Myrtti...
[09:26] <Myrtti> You do.
[09:27] <jussi01> heheh
[09:28] <Myrtti> Ill try my Wake on lan php script... Dumdidum
[09:36] <ompaul> darkbytez forwarded to here for quit message
[09:36] <jussi01> from?
[09:37] <ompaul> #ubuntu
[09:37] <jussi01> kk
[09:37] <jussi01> heh...
[09:38] <ompaul> ohh the bot is not reflecting the !no x is <reply> material     to this channel
[09:38] <ompaul> aaaaaarrrrgggghhhh
[09:38] <ompaul> !no twinview is a feature provided by nvidia cards, which can be configured with nvidia-settings
[09:38] <ompaul> damn
[09:39] <ompaul> Pici, ^^ or >>   xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[10:11] <elky> @whoami
[10:11]  * elky pokes ubottu
[10:12] <stdin> use @login
[10:12] <elky> @login
[10:12] <elky> o.O
[10:12] <stdin> umm, k
[10:12] <elky> i am identified according to my client
[10:12] <ompaul> !test
[10:13] <ompaul> stdin, :) thanks
[10:13] <elky> this might be why
[10:14] <stdin> I added a hostmask for you anyway
[10:14] <elkbuntu> stupid -read-topic needing me to be opped to change my nick
[10:15] <elkbuntu> @login
[10:15] <elkbuntu> yay@
[10:15] <elkbuntu> o.O
[10:15] <elkbuntu> oookay
[10:15] <stdin> elky is not set as an IRC nick used on freenode, so I'd guess that's why it's not in the user database
[10:16] <stdin> (set on your LP page)
[10:16] <elkbuntu> ah
[10:16] <elkbuntu> yeah... i probably need to update that
[10:16] <stdin> it will be important, especially when I update the login stuff
[10:17] <stdin> it will search for your nick and associate that with your LP login. and that will be your user-name for the bot
[10:17] <stdin> so when elky does @whoami, it'd say "elky: melissa"
[10:24] <elkbuntu> there, elky an elkeee added
[12:23] <ompaul> elkbuntu, s/probably/actually/
[12:24] <ompaul> argh I want a new sinus system
[12:24] <ompaul> argh
[12:24] <elkbuntu> heh?
[12:24]  * Myrtti huggles ompaul 
[12:25] <ompaul> elkbuntu, add that nick
[12:25] <elkbuntu> i did, didnt i?
[12:25] <ompaul> Myrtti, moin
[12:25]  * Myrtti smacks a kiss on ompauls cheek
[12:26] <Myrtti> I confess nothing.
[12:35] <PriceChild> Yay for extended 3 year warranty.
[12:39] <ompaul> PriceChild, unusual you would need to use one
[12:39] <ompaul> I hope your case matches their exclusion list
[12:39] <PriceChild> ompaul: 360s break if you cough in the wrong direction
[12:39] <ompaul> sorry - you know what I meant
[12:40] <ompaul> I hope your case matches their acceptable broken list
[12:40] <jussi01> hihi
[12:40] <PriceChild> but their repair service is excellent, despite the fact that it is needed
[12:40] <ompaul> PriceChild, supporting the dark side
[12:40] <Myrtti> ompaul: but MS makes perfectly good *hardware*
[12:40] <PriceChild> ompaul: pfft xbox and xbox live are fantastic products IMO.
[12:40] <ompaul> both of you go away, you are depressing me
[12:40] <ompaul> :P
[12:41] <Myrtti> ompaul: I wish they'd make more hardware
[12:41] <PriceChild> There's a bit of a buzz going round at them stifling developers for arcade games, but yeh
[12:41] <ompaul> PriceChild, stifling - shafting
[12:41] <jussi01> hrm... I wonder if I can salvage my xbox into anything like a workable pc...
[12:41] <ompaul> PriceChild, they are the enemy of progression
[12:41] <ompaul> they are the dark side
[12:41] <ompaul> they are etc
[12:42] <Myrtti> http://dy.fi/dgb <-- best product ever!
[12:42] <Myrtti> jussi01: you've had it modded I presume?
[12:42] <jussi01> no
[12:43] <Myrtti> crying shame
[12:43] <Myrtti> xbox is the best ever media player if it's modded
[12:43] <ompaul> ohh dear and I thought you people loved freedom ;-)
[12:43] <ompaul> matthew garrett gave the wrong talk :)
[12:44] <ompaul> The laws of thermodynamics require that the total amount of energy saved by ACPI must be equal to the thermal output of Matthew Garrett's anger.
[12:44] <ompaul> Matthew Garrett's heartbeats are synchronizing NTP.
[12:45] <ompaul> build a bridge, get over it
[12:45] <jussi01> ompaul: thexbox is from my pre-ubuntu days
[12:45] <Myrtti> ompaul: but you know what me and ex did with the xbox?
[12:45] <ompaul> jussi01, but then it should be modded :)
[12:45] <Myrtti> we modded it right away
[12:45] <Myrtti> and bought about 3 games to it while we had it
[12:45] <jussi01> Myrtti: how tomod it?
[12:45] <Myrtti> used it mainly as dvd player and samba client
[12:46] <ompaul> and dvd players cost sub 100 euros
[12:46] <Myrtti> jussi01: officially I don't know how
[12:46] <ompaul> and samba clients ....
[12:46] <Myrtti> ompaul: not when we bought it
[12:46] <Myrtti> ompaul: I also played stepmania with it
[12:47] <Myrtti> and old snes games
[12:47] <ompaul> Jucato, I have no ideas but I found this while indexing the internet ;-) http://www.xbox-linux.org/wiki/Contents
[12:47] <jussi01> well Im off totown for a bit... laterz
[12:50] <ompaul> Matthew Garrett booted Linux on his toaster one morning, just for the hell of it.
[12:51] <ompaul> to offtopic for one great one
[13:16] <ompaul> that must have annoyed me - I have not used ctcp version on someone in years
 hi does anyone have tibia account to give away please send it to me email dawiisss@gmail.com
[14:03] <emorris> can someone kick dawid from #ubuntu please
[14:03] <Myrtti> muted
[14:03] <emorris> thanks
[15:14] <jpds> Anyone else seen http://ubuntubash.org/ ?
[15:15] <ikonia> how's set that up ?
[15:15] <ikonia> s/how/who
[15:15] <jpds> gouki appartently.
[15:18] <jussi01> yes, Ive seen that
[15:51] <bazhang> * FloodBot1 sets ban on %ubottu!*@*
[15:51] <jpds> bazhang: They do that a lot.
[15:51] <PriceChild> bazhang: working as designed.
[15:51] <bazhang> aye
 FloodBot1: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[15:53] <ompaul> hahah
[15:53] <ompaul> jpds, pm
[15:53] <jpds> ompaul: Anytime.
[16:07] <Myrtti> LOL
[16:07] <Myrtti> 18:06 < TRudd> # Appears as TONGTYED
[16:08] <bazhang> what a rude message
[16:08] <jpds> Myrtti: popey just booted him out of -uk.
[16:08] <bazhang> aimed at -uk
[16:09] <Myrtti> you folks don't remember that?
[16:09] <Myrtti> he was using Microsoft Comic Chat.
[16:09] <jpds> We know.
[16:10] <Myrtti> just reminding
[16:27] <nickrud> nothing quite like installing from a hardy alpha when you think you're using 8.04.1 ;)
[16:30] <bazhang> haha
[16:30] <nickrud> haven't seen a lilo boot in a very long time
[16:48]  * ompaul sits here depressed 
[16:48] <ompaul> rebooted a server in work - (test box) - guess what
[16:48] <ompaul> it ain't back on the network
[16:49] <ompaul> and its segement has power I logged onto two boxes beside it
[16:49] <ompaul> do I, (A) go into office today
[16:49] <ompaul> (B) go at 10am tomorrow
[16:49] <ompaul> after I go to other office and move telephone extensions
[16:50] <ompaul> (C) something else
[16:51] <ompaul> 135 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 134014ms
[16:51] <ompaul> something else I am going cooking
[16:52] <ompaul> what was that I found a keyboard short cut
[16:52] <ompaul> not a nice one
[16:52] <ompaul> ctrl l in xchat clears screen
[16:54]  * Myrtti tries to decide should she post the blog entry
[16:59] <jussi01> ompaul: go now -less stress that way
[17:03]  * Myrtti blogged.
[17:46]  * jussi01 hugs Myrtti - I seez youz!
[17:46] <Myrtti> aw
[17:53] <ompaul> jussi01, I was gone already
[18:10] <bazhang> first use of !ultamatix :)
[18:11] <ikonia> and so it begins....
[18:14] <bazhang> can just picture the arguments: that was only the second time I mentioned it!
[18:27] <ompaul> no it says what is going to happen
[18:27] <ompaul> no debate
[18:27] <ompaul> don't discuss
[18:28] <ompaul> it is a rule not an option
[18:29] <jussi01> sigh...
[18:37] <ikonia> everyone trying to pick a fight today
[18:37] <ikonia> in #ubuntu
[18:38] <bazhang> yup
[18:39] <ikonia> I'm going to explain this to him in a PM
[18:39] <ikonia> fed up now
[18:40] <bazhang> completely justified imo
[18:40] <ikonia> fed up of it
[18:41] <ikonia> what is going on
[18:41] <ikonia> are these two the same guy
[18:41] <ikonia> the other one is refusing to respond in pm
[18:42] <ikonia> well the other one is refusing to respond to a pm still,
[18:42] <ikonia> yes he is now
[18:42] <PriceChild> neuro_, which neuro is that?
[18:43] <bazhang> * [neuro_] (n=neuro@bellerephon.zensoft.net): neuro
[18:43] <bazhang> PriceChild, ^^
[18:43] <ompaul> it is the one which is banned now
[18:43] <ompaul> PriceChild, I don't think it is our scottish friend
[18:43] <PriceChild> not quite what i meant
[18:43] <PriceChild> does he have any history?
[18:44] <ompaul> I think I unbanned them yesterday
[18:44] <jpds> Looking at #lugradio - I think he is.
[18:44] <ompaul> then he owes me a pint
[18:48] <ompaul> !guidelines
[18:48] <ikonia> ompaul: thank you just what I needed
[18:49] <ikonia> !guidelines >mercutio22
[18:53]  * jussi01 grumbles
[18:53] <ompaul> and well you might
[18:55] <jussi01> ompaul: why you say that?
[18:55] <PriceChild> I'm seeing a lot of joins?
[18:55] <ikonia> me too
[18:55] <ompaul> jussi01, just for fun
[18:55] <ompaul> and profit
[18:55] <jussi01> oh.
[18:57] <jussi01> I made a CV in OOo. printed to pdf, discarded odt. now I want to take the text from the pdf, but it copies ponly as a lot of mumbo jumbo...
[18:57] <jussi01> grumble grumble grumble
[18:57] <ompaul> jussi01, open it in evince
[18:57] <ompaul> ungrumble -f
[18:58] <jussi01> ompaul: what does that do?
[18:58] <jussi01> hehe
[18:58] <jussi01> :P
[18:58] <ompaul> jussi01, evince might just allow you copy the data
[18:59] <jussi01> tried that...
[19:03] <ompaul> everyone should be nice and calm now
[19:04] <jussi01> oooh, spat of unbannings...
[19:04] <bazhang> limcore
[19:04] <jussi01> yummy
[19:04] <jpds> Not him again.
[19:04] <ikonia> I've had it with limcore
[19:04] <jussi01> let hope he has learnt his lesson.
[19:05] <ikonia> he doesn't contibute - just trolls enough
[19:05]  * jussi01 group hugs jpds and ikonia
[19:06] <jussi01> I think we are going to need a resident psychiatrist in here soon. :P
[19:06] <bazhang> hehe
[19:06] <ikonia> it's not fair on others
[19:06] <ikonia> he comes in and rants
[19:06] <jpds> ikonia: He does that on other channels too.
[19:06]  * jpds hugs jussi01 
[19:06] <ompaul> and blogs about it
[19:06] <ikonia> I know
[19:07] <ikonia> enough though
[19:08] <ompaul> personally
[19:08] <jpds> He ought to actually do something, like me and others → https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-dev/ubuntu-dev-tools/trunk \o/
[19:08] <ompaul> its four years on or thereabouts
[19:08] <ompaul> and I am tired
[19:08] <neuro_> hello ppl
[19:08] <bazhang> hello neuro_
[19:09] <neuro_> i just wanted to explain my actions to you all
[19:09]  * Myrtti huggles neuro_ 
[19:09] <neuro_> i don't believe my parting comment in #ubuntu was justified, so i apologise for that
[19:10] <neuro_> i do, however believe, that ikonia's ban of a user who had already agreed to stop being off-topic, was not justified
[19:10] <neuro_> and that's what wound me up
[19:11] <neuro_> especially considering i drove an off-topic query back on topic within a minute or two
[19:11] <ikonia> neuro_: FYI: that user had a conversation in PM accepted politly he shouldn't have persisted with comments and went about his business
[19:11] <neuro_> i'm unconcerned about what you discussed in private with someone
[19:11] <PriceChild> ikonia: does that nick have a history?
[19:12] <ikonia> which one
[19:12] <neuro_> i'm concerned about what happened in that public channel
[19:12] <PriceChild> ikonia: limcore i think?
[19:12] <ikonia> PriceChild: BIG TIME
[19:12] <ikonia> PriceChild: please see BT
[19:12] <PriceChild> @btlogin
[19:12] <neuro_> and i agree that you have to try and drive discussions on topic in #ubuntu, but you need to do it with a softer touch IMO
[19:12] <neuro_> blatting people over the head, especially with a ban hammer, is not polite
[19:13] <neuro_> or conducive to retaining new users (or existing ones for that matter)
[19:13] <ikonia> neuro_: the user was asked to stop 3 times by 2 different people
[19:13] <ikonia> having the final word then saying "ok it's done" is not acceptable
[19:13] <ikonia> he should have stopped 3 comments ago
[19:13] <ikonia> not finished his rant then decided it was done
[19:13] <neuro_> and you decided a ban was justifiable under those circumstances?
[19:14] <ikonia> no I quitenend him to stop the conversation going on and disucssed it in private with him
[19:14] <neuro_> and they actually said "ok, done", not "ok, it's done"
[19:14] <PriceChild> I don't think bans should be used "to make a point".
[19:14] <ikonia> which he was very aminable
[19:14] <ikonia> PriceChild: it was not used to make a point
[19:14] <neuro_> done as in when someone asks you to do something
[19:14] <neuro_> "put that away" "done"
[19:14] <neuro_> i think you misunderstood his response, and you overreacted
[19:14] <ikonia> no I didn't
[19:15] <ikonia> and neither did the other person who asked him to stop
[19:15] <Myrtti> hmmm
[19:15] <Myrtti> let's take a deep breath
[19:15]  * neuro_ can't take deep breaths
[19:15] <neuro_> smoker, poor lung capacity
[19:16] <Myrtti> tsk.
[19:16] <Myrtti> anyway
[19:16] <neuro_> anyway
[19:16] <ikonia> neuro_: I genuinly see your point, and to some extent take on board what your saying, feedback is always welcome, but I believe putting an end to the discussion and talking to the user in private was the correct thing to do
[19:16] <neuro_> i've explained my actions, i've made a request, i hope you take it under the appropriate level of advisement
[19:17] <neuro_> ikonia: i believe your "putting an end to the discussion" before discussing it in private with the user was an overreaction
[19:17] <neuro_> so we shall differ on that point
[19:17] <neuro_> i don't wish to beat that point to death :)
[19:17] <ikonia> I appriciate that,
[19:17] <Myrtti> I find it refreshing that we have adult visitors in this channel
[19:17] <neuro_> i'm not trying to argue on and on or make you lot change in a heartbeat
[19:17] <bazhang> yes
[19:18] <Myrtti> neuro_: thank you for restoring my faith in humanity
[19:18] <ikonia> neuro_: no one things you are, no offense is taken
[19:18] <neuro_> Myrtti: if i was smoking menthols, i'd have that refreshing minty taste too
[19:18] <ikonia> as I said feedback is always welcome
[19:18] <Myrtti> oooo
[19:18] <neuro_> ikonia: ok
[19:18] <neuro_> now, i need to go beat ompaul over the head for calling me "small", so i'll not take up any more of your time
[19:18] <neuro_> thanks all :)
[19:19]  * Myrtti giggles
[19:19] <Myrtti> ROFL
[19:19] <Myrtti> ompaul really called him small
[19:19] <Myrtti> ??
[19:19] <Myrtti> oy
[19:19] <Myrtti> funny
[19:21] <bazhang> limcore is in PM now?
[19:23] <jussi01> someone jump into -ot?
[19:24] <Myrtti> what's there
[19:25] <ikonia> yes, I have limcore in pm
[19:25] <jussi01> meh, over now.
[19:26] <jussi01> common sense prevailed.
[19:26] <bazhang> for the moment
[19:29] <ikonia> can someone look at #ubuntu-fai
[19:29] <ikonia> #ubuntu-fail
[19:29] <ikonia> limcore has made an official channel #ubuntu-fail
[19:29] <ikonia> is that known about ?
[19:29] <ikonia> I can't look now as I'm talking to him
[19:29] <Myrtti> official channel?
[19:30] <bazhang> Im there
[19:30] <Myrtti> how the hell can something like that be an official channel?
[19:30] <ikonia> could someone look into it and deal with it appropriatly ?
[19:30] <stdin> staff need to close it for us
[19:30] <ikonia> I'm just getting more info on everything but as you can imagine he's alittl bit of a handful
[19:30] <PriceChild> I'll get it sorted, we can move on.
[19:30] <ikonia> thanks
[19:31] <bazhang> understatement of the epoch
[19:31] <PriceChild> No need to be there
[19:31] <PriceChild> Lets watch our triggers and just help channels run smothly.
[19:31] <LimCore> yes, Im here nalioth
[19:34] <LimCore> nalioth: I thought you invited me here? or not
[19:34] <nalioth> LimCore: here is where you can ask about creating unauthorized Ubuntu channels
[19:35] <LimCore> I was not avare about no need to ask before creating any channel on freenode
[19:35] <LimCore> you mean that all #ubuntu* channels are protected?
[19:36] <nalioth> freenode isn't like other networks.  Our channel naming guidelines can be found here: http://freenode.net/policy.shtml#channelnaming LimCore
[19:36] <nalioth> Freenode isn't like other networks.  Our channel guidelines can be found here: http://freenode.net/channel_guidelines.shtml LimCore
[19:39] <LimCore> ok I read this again, but Im not sure
[19:39] <LimCore> so, is one free to create any ##ubuntu* (about) channel or not?
[19:42] <nalioth> if you create a channel for trolling, no.
[19:43]  * LimCore looks at #politics
[19:44] <LimCore> nalioth: one can not create own, about, channel, in which he talk anything he wants to who ever chooses to join his channel? How is that freedom of speach>?
[19:45] <nalioth> LimCore: #politics does not exist
[19:45] <LimCore> deletion of #politics is very recent, I was not aware about ti
[19:45] <nalioth> we are not here for 'free speech', we are here for the advancement of FLOSS software through communication
[19:48] <LimCore> including ##windows ?
[19:49] <LimCore> I will be happy to obey this rules on your server :) However, I dont apparently undestand their consistency in some places like this
[19:49] <nalioth> there are thousands of OSL windows programs
[19:49] <nalioth> open software license
[19:51] <LimCore> thousands of OSL programs fail to work as exepected by their users. Where people can vent and talk about this? ##ubuntu is support, -bugs is technical
[19:51] <LimCore> (btw, I still dont see how ##politics is related to supporting FLOSS. not that I'm complaining, just curious)
[19:52] <nalioth> ##ubuntu doesn't exist.  #ubuntu-offtopic is for general discussion relating to Ubuntu
[19:52] <nalioth> ##politics is the toilet that keeps the trolls happy
[19:52] <LimCore> yes I ment #ubuntu not ##ubuntu
[19:53] <LimCore> you do not want to have a channel where people can express their unhapinness related to some software right?
[19:53] <nalioth>  #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:55] <PriceChild> LimCore: you seem to have a history
[19:55] <Myrtti> I rant about yast2 and SuSE and evolution-exchange on #ubuntu-offtopic on regular basis
[19:55] <Myrtti> I'd go cr... oh wait, I am already, nevermind, carry on.
[19:56] <LimCore> PriceChild: you seem to have 10 characters in nick
[19:56] <PriceChild> LimCore: now there are constructive and polite ways to say "this is rubbish, do something about it", and then there's whining and creating silly channels
[19:56] <LimCore> I bet at least some of you thought that name was funny
[19:57] <PriceChild> LimCore: maybe the first time
[19:57] <LimCore> nalioth: oh ok. thanks
[19:59] <LimCore> if one would want to create say #ubuntu-games - channel about games on Unbut, what is needed?
[19:59] <LimCore> like, he needs any legal affilation or something, or not
[19:59] <PriceChild> a purpose or need for the channel would be a good start
[20:00] <LimCore> so one is NOT free to create it right? ok
[20:00] <LimCore> and same for ##ubuntu-games ?
[20:01] <PriceChild> Oh you're free to create it the single #... but we would rather you didn't unless you actually have a reason.
[20:01] <LimCore> if I want it to be mine channel, not mining anyones approval or lack of it, then is ## a place for it, or also no?
[20:02] <LimCore> *minding
[20:03] <PriceChild> LimCore: are you creating it for the hell of it still?
[20:03] <PriceChild> Because really... what's the point?!
[20:04] <LimCore> well, this was the question :)  What should be a validation to be able to create a channel
[20:04] <LimCore> I thought that anyone can create whatever channel (minus some #officiall names) just because he can
[20:04] <PriceChild> Yes you 'can'. But 'should' you?
[20:05] <LimCore> what is the servers owners view on this?
[20:05] <LimCore> like... they dont mind
[20:05] <PriceChild> I 'can' not stop for people at a pelican crossing, but I 'should'.
[20:05] <LimCore> or, they do mind, because it eats resources (I think it does not) etc
[20:07] <LimCore> ok, simply. You dont like #ubuntu-fail, I see it as #ubuntu* are reserved so ubuntu officials decide, ok.  What about 1) ##ubuntu-fail    2) ##ubuntu-mybugs (nicer name)  3) ##guhevefd43 (useless channel created just because).  Creatinon of which of thoes channels are considred to be more or less "bad" thing to do here?
[20:07] <PriceChild> What is the point in any of them?
[20:08] <LimCore> 1) would be rating about bugs,  2) as well but nicer name,  and 3) would be used by two people that talk about oprivate stuff
[20:09] <nalioth> why not make ##limcores-playground and do as you wish  ( bar trolling, of course )
[20:09] <ikonia> instead of ranting about bugs, you can contirbute to them, post updates to the bugs, assist in the fixes (if possible)
[20:09] <ikonia> channel energry in a better direction
[20:09] <LimCore> nalioth: what do you mean by "bar trolling"
[20:10] <nalioth> 1218393584 13:39 < LimCore> so, is one free to create any ##ubuntu* (about) channel or not?                                                                                                                                      +robotgeek
[20:10] <nalioth> 1218393776 13:42 <+nalioth> if you create a channel for trolling, no.
[20:10] <nalioth> trolling is off topic on freenode
[20:11] <LimCore> "bar trolling" == "but drop the trolling" ?
[20:11] <stdin> "bar trolling" means "except trolling"
[20:12] <LimCore> (btw, I do not agree that all facts with added personal opionions, or not generally accepted views, even aimed to rise a bit interest, should be called "trolling")
[20:16] <nalioth> LimCore: anything else we can help you with?
[20:19] <LimCore> well no, you invited me here :)
[20:19] <LimCore> bye
[21:46] <ubot3> In #ubuntuforums-beginners, speeddemon8803 said: ubot3 is NOT old by any standards..ubotu is old :D
[21:46] <Breatheeasy> hi, im banned from #ubuntu, do i have to be registered or something?
[21:47] <Myrtti> lets see
[21:49] <Myrtti> according to our banlog you are not banned
[21:49] <Breatheeasy> Cannot join #ubuntu (You are banned).
[21:49] <Myrtti> that's odd
[21:49] <Breatheeasy> im using xchat
[21:49] <Breatheeasy> no proxies or anything
[21:50] <Myrtti> right
[21:51] <Flannel> Myrtti: banlog has him banned
[21:51] <Flannel> Or at least, has something that'd ban him
[21:51] <Myrtti> Flannel: noted
[21:51] <Breatheeasy> what did i do?
[21:51] <Myrtti> took a while to find it
[21:51] <Myrtti> you didn't
[21:52] <Myrtti> hold on
[21:52] <Flannel> Myrtti: the real name one looks safe to remove
[21:52] <Flannel> Breatheeasy: try now
[21:53] <Breatheeasy> worked thankyou
[21:53] <Myrtti> no probs
[21:53] <Breatheeasy> how did i get myself banned?
[21:53] <Myrtti> you did nothing
[21:53] <Myrtti> it was a ban placed on the realname you were using
[21:54] <Breatheeasy> ah
[21:54] <Breatheeasy> so somebody else did something wrong with my name?
[21:54] <Myrtti> basically yes
[21:54] <Flannel> Breatheeasy: Well, someone else who has the same name as you.  Daniel F
[21:54] <Tallken> hey guys, we have a bot at UbuntuForums, name "myfriends", sent me a link which appeared to be at ubuntu forums but is actually a link to some foreign site...
[21:56] <elkbuntu> what is the link?
[21:57] <Tallken> hello, is this your thread? http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?f...oster&t=707988. Thanks ::::: But the "http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?f...oster&t=707988" actually links to htt p :/ /  w w w .p reownedwatches.us
[21:57] <Tallken> forgot the quotes on the message quote
[22:02] <elkbuntu> what is the ... replacing?
[22:03] <elkbuntu> Tallken?
[22:06]  * elkbuntu cannot replicate with what you've given
[22:18] <Tallken> elkbuntu, what?
[22:18] <Tallken> elkbuntu, don't understand
[22:18] <elkbuntu> Tallken, is http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?f...oster&t=707988 the full, unadulterated url?
[22:19] <elkbuntu> as in, were the ... between the f and the o always there, or did you add them or replace something with them
[22:20] <Tallken> elkbuntu, I received one private message on the forums, from "myfriends"; its title was: "Hi"; its body was: "hello, is this your thread? http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?f...oster&t=707988. Thanks" . But in fact, "http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?f...oster&t=707988" linked to "http://www.preownedwatches.us/"
[22:20] <elkbuntu> right. i'm not getting that behaviour
[22:21] <PriceChild> Tallken: on ubuntuforums.org, not #ubuntuforums?
[22:21] <Tallken> ya
[22:21] <Pici> elkbuntu: I think Tallken means: <a href="boguspage>ubuntuforums</a>
[22:21] <Pici> or written correctly.
[22:21] <elkbuntu> why are we getting reports about ubuntuforums stuff?
[22:22] <elkbuntu> ugh... i should have left for work already
[22:22] <Tallken> rofl sorry elkbuntu
[22:22] <Tallken> thought you'd like to know there is a bot in the forums
[22:22] <PriceChild> Tallken: please forward a copy to me on the forums, "PriceChild".
[22:22] <PriceChild> Tallken: this channel deals only with irc. In future, reports should go in #ubuntuforums, or in forum feedback and help, or in a pm to a mod
[22:22] <Tallken> PriceChild, done
[22:22] <Pici> Tallken: #ubuntu-ops only control Ubuntu's IRC presence, not the forums. Although some of the ops are also moderators.
[22:23] <Tallken> PriceChild, Pici , thanks for the information :)
[22:23]  * Myrtti goes to check her post count again
[22:23] <Pici> mine is 0.
[22:24] <Myrtti> 7 since registering on May 20th, 2005
[22:24] <Tallken> PriceChild, got it?
[22:24] <Myrtti> damn, again age crisis
[22:27] <PriceChild> Tallken: sorting it out
[22:30] <Tallken> PriceChild, ok, going away now :)