[02:12] Did I miss anything? [02:48] BigBuddha called the ops in #ubuntu () [02:50] * Pici sighs [04:16] FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [04:16] FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [04:19] yep, handled [04:19] ahhh [04:19] i ranomly got kicked out of #ubuntu into some #ubuntu-read-topic [04:19] help [04:19] meoblast001: Did you read te topic in #ubuntu-read-topic? :) [04:19] yes [04:20] h/o brb [04:20] meoblast001: please heed it [04:20] * Flannel doesn't even knwo what it says. [04:20] something about 8001, but how do yuo get the floodbots to test you? [04:20] holycow: can we help you? [04:20] Flannel: type: test me [04:20] holycow: can we help you? [04:22] screw this [04:22] i followed the thing [04:22] and if they dont want me in #ubuntu, i guess i'll not go there [04:22] im hanging out here now [04:23] meoblast001: excuse me? [04:23] I dont see that you followed the directions, you need to type test me in the channel [04:23] they keep telling me to go to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixDCCExploit [04:23] i already did that [04:23] did you? [04:23] oh [04:23] i didnt know i was [04:25] * Received a malformed DCC request from FloodBot2. [04:25] * Contents of packet: DCC SEND 1234567890abcdef [04:25] * Received a malformed DCC request from FloodBot3. [04:25] * Contents of packet: DCC SEND 1234567890abcdef [04:25] is that bad? [04:25] meoblast001: it's better than throwing you off the network, yes. [04:25] meoblast001: please don't do that [04:26] i didnt get thrown off the network [04:26] just the channel [04:26] meoblast001: you got reconnected to the whole internet [04:27] ? [04:27] that attack reset your router [04:42] meoblast001: Anything else we can help you with? [04:42] Pici: not really [04:42] !idle [04:42] Please keep in mind that this channel is for operator/abuse questions only, and we ask you to part when you have no further business here, in order to keep track of users with pending inquiries. [04:43] oh [04:43] sorry [04:43] :) [04:43] i forgot to close the tab [04:46] Is there a problem with floodbot or is it on my end? I can't seem to join #ubuntu after being redirected to #ubuntu-proxy-users, even after I wait awhile and get the go ahead from the bot [04:48] jimmygoon: try again please [04:49] Thanks Pici [04:50] jimmygoon: sure [09:15] * Myrtti yawns [09:24] * jussi01 sighs [09:25] No, dont call me [09:25] Ill get up! [09:25] Promise! [09:26] :-) [09:26] :D [09:26] * jussi01 terrorizes Myrtti... [09:26] You do. [09:27] heheh [09:28] Ill try my Wake on lan php script... Dumdidum [09:36] darkbytez forwarded to here for quit message [09:36] from? [09:37] #ubuntu [09:37] kk [09:37] heh... [09:38] ohh the bot is not reflecting the !no x is material to this channel [09:38] aaaaaarrrrgggghhhh [09:38] !no twinview is a feature provided by nvidia cards, which can be configured with nvidia-settings [09:38] I'll remember that ompaul [09:38] damn [09:39] Pici, ^^ or >> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead [10:10] In ubottu, stdin_ said: !no test is ompaul, this works now [10:11] @whoami [10:11] * elky pokes ubottu [10:12] use @login [10:12] @login [10:12] elky: Error: Your hostmask doesn't match or your password is wrong. [10:12] o.O [10:12] umm, k [10:12] i am identified according to my client [10:12] !test [10:12] sigh... again? I'm busy here, I already told you it failed. [10:13] stdin, :) thanks [10:13] this might be why === elky is now known as elkbuntu [10:14] I added a hostmask for you anyway [10:14] stupid -read-topic needing me to be opped to change my nick [10:15] @login [10:15] elkbuntu: The operation succeeded. [10:15] elkbuntu: The operation succeeded. [10:15] yay@ [10:15] o.O [10:15] oookay [10:15] elky is not set as an IRC nick used on freenode, so I'd guess that's why it's not in the user database [10:16] (set on your LP page) [10:16] ah [10:16] yeah... i probably need to update that [10:16] it will be important, especially when I update the login stuff [10:17] it will search for your nick and associate that with your LP login. and that will be your user-name for the bot [10:17] so when elky does @whoami, it'd say "elky: melissa" [10:24] there, elky an elkeee added [12:23] elkbuntu, s/probably/actually/ [12:24] argh I want a new sinus system [12:24] argh [12:24] heh? [12:24] * Myrtti huggles ompaul [12:25] elkbuntu, add that nick [12:25] i did, didnt i? [12:25] Myrtti, moin [12:25] * Myrtti smacks a kiss on ompauls cheek [12:26] I confess nothing. [12:35] Yay for extended 3 year warranty. [12:39] PriceChild, unusual you would need to use one [12:39] I hope your case matches their exclusion list [12:39] ompaul: 360s break if you cough in the wrong direction [12:39] sorry - you know what I meant [12:40] I hope your case matches their acceptable broken list [12:40] hihi [12:40] but their repair service is excellent, despite the fact that it is needed [12:40] PriceChild, supporting the dark side [12:40] ompaul: but MS makes perfectly good *hardware* [12:40] ompaul: pfft xbox and xbox live are fantastic products IMO. [12:40] both of you go away, you are depressing me [12:40] :P [12:41] ompaul: I wish they'd make more hardware [12:41] There's a bit of a buzz going round at them stifling developers for arcade games, but yeh [12:41] PriceChild, stifling - shafting [12:41] hrm... I wonder if I can salvage my xbox into anything like a workable pc... [12:41] PriceChild, they are the enemy of progression [12:41] they are the dark side [12:41] they are etc [12:42] http://dy.fi/dgb <-- best product ever! [12:42] jussi01: you've had it modded I presume? [12:42] no [12:43] crying shame [12:43] xbox is the best ever media player if it's modded [12:43] ohh dear and I thought you people loved freedom ;-) [12:43] matthew garrett gave the wrong talk :) [12:44] The laws of thermodynamics require that the total amount of energy saved by ACPI must be equal to the thermal output of Matthew Garrett's anger. [12:44] Matthew Garrett's heartbeats are synchronizing NTP. [12:45] build a bridge, get over it [12:45] ompaul: thexbox is from my pre-ubuntu days [12:45] ompaul: but you know what me and ex did with the xbox? [12:45] jussi01, but then it should be modded :) [12:45] we modded it right away [12:45] and bought about 3 games to it while we had it [12:45] Myrtti: how tomod it? [12:45] used it mainly as dvd player and samba client [12:46] and dvd players cost sub 100 euros [12:46] jussi01: officially I don't know how [12:46] and samba clients .... [12:46] ompaul: not when we bought it [12:46] ompaul: I also played stepmania with it [12:47] and old snes games [12:47] Jucato, I have no ideas but I found this while indexing the internet ;-) http://www.xbox-linux.org/wiki/Contents [12:47] well Im off totown for a bit... laterz [12:50] Matthew Garrett booted Linux on his toaster one morning, just for the hell of it. [12:51] to offtopic for one great one [13:16] that must have annoyed me - I have not used ctcp version on someone in years [14:01] hi does anyone have tibia account to give away please send it to me email dawiisss@gmail.com [14:03] can someone kick dawid from #ubuntu please [14:03] muted [14:03] thanks [15:14] Anyone else seen http://ubuntubash.org/ ? [15:15] how's set that up ? [15:15] s/how/who [15:15] gouki appartently. [15:18] yes, Ive seen that [15:51] * FloodBot1 sets ban on %ubottu!*@* [15:51] bazhang: They do that a lot. [15:51] bazhang: working as designed. [15:51] aye [15:52] FloodBot1: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [15:53] hahah [15:53] jpds, pm [15:53] ompaul: Anytime. [16:07] LOL [16:07] 18:06 < TRudd> # Appears as TONGTYED [16:08] what a rude message [16:08] Myrtti: popey just booted him out of -uk. [16:08] aimed at -uk [16:09] you folks don't remember that? [16:09] he was using Microsoft Comic Chat. [16:09] We know. [16:10] just reminding [16:27] nothing quite like installing from a hardy alpha when you think you're using 8.04.1 ;) [16:30] haha [16:30] haven't seen a lilo boot in a very long time [16:48] * ompaul sits here depressed [16:48] rebooted a server in work - (test box) - guess what [16:48] it ain't back on the network [16:49] and its segement has power I logged onto two boxes beside it [16:49] do I, (A) go into office today [16:49] (B) go at 10am tomorrow [16:49] after I go to other office and move telephone extensions [16:50] (C) something else [16:51] 135 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 134014ms [16:51] something else I am going cooking [16:52] what was that I found a keyboard short cut [16:52] not a nice one [16:52] ctrl l in xchat clears screen [16:54] * Myrtti tries to decide should she post the blog entry [16:59] ompaul: go now -less stress that way [17:03] * Myrtti blogged. [17:46] * jussi01 hugs Myrtti - I seez youz! [17:46] aw [17:53] jussi01, I was gone already [18:10] first use of !ultamatix :) [18:11] and so it begins.... [18:14] can just picture the arguments: that was only the second time I mentioned it! [18:27] no it says what is going to happen [18:27] no debate [18:27] don't discuss [18:28] it is a rule not an option [18:29] sigh... [18:37] everyone trying to pick a fight today [18:37] in #ubuntu [18:38] yup [18:39] I'm going to explain this to him in a PM [18:39] fed up now [18:40] completely justified imo [18:40] fed up of it [18:41] what is going on [18:41] are these two the same guy [18:41] the other one is refusing to respond in pm [18:42] well the other one is refusing to respond to a pm still, [18:42] yes he is now [18:42] neuro_, which neuro is that? [18:43] * [neuro_] (n=neuro@bellerephon.zensoft.net): neuro [18:43] PriceChild, ^^ [18:43] it is the one which is banned now [18:43] PriceChild, I don't think it is our scottish friend [18:43] not quite what i meant [18:43] does he have any history? [18:44] I think I unbanned them yesterday [18:44] Looking at #lugradio - I think he is. [18:44] then he owes me a pint [18:48] !guidelines [18:48] The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines [18:48] ompaul: thank you just what I needed [18:49] !guidelines >mercutio22 [18:53] * jussi01 grumbles [18:53] and well you might [18:55] ompaul: why you say that? [18:55] I'm seeing a lot of joins? [18:55] me too [18:55] jussi01, just for fun [18:55] and profit [18:55] oh. [18:57] I made a CV in OOo. printed to pdf, discarded odt. now I want to take the text from the pdf, but it copies ponly as a lot of mumbo jumbo... [18:57] grumble grumble grumble [18:57] jussi01, open it in evince [18:57] ungrumble -f [18:58] ompaul: what does that do? [18:58] hehe [18:58] :P [18:58] jussi01, evince might just allow you copy the data [18:59] tried that... [19:03] everyone should be nice and calm now [19:04] oooh, spat of unbannings... [19:04] limcore [19:04] yummy [19:04] Not him again. [19:04] I've had it with limcore [19:04] let hope he has learnt his lesson. [19:05] he doesn't contibute - just trolls enough [19:05] * jussi01 group hugs jpds and ikonia [19:06] I think we are going to need a resident psychiatrist in here soon. :P [19:06] hehe [19:06] it's not fair on others [19:06] he comes in and rants [19:06] ikonia: He does that on other channels too. [19:06] * jpds hugs jussi01 [19:06] and blogs about it [19:06] I know [19:07] enough though [19:08] personally [19:08] He ought to actually do something, like me and others → https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-dev/ubuntu-dev-tools/trunk \o/ [19:08] its four years on or thereabouts [19:08] and I am tired [19:08] hello ppl [19:08] hello neuro_ [19:09] i just wanted to explain my actions to you all [19:09] * Myrtti huggles neuro_ [19:09] i don't believe my parting comment in #ubuntu was justified, so i apologise for that [19:10] i do, however believe, that ikonia's ban of a user who had already agreed to stop being off-topic, was not justified [19:10] and that's what wound me up [19:11] especially considering i drove an off-topic query back on topic within a minute or two [19:11] neuro_: FYI: that user had a conversation in PM accepted politly he shouldn't have persisted with comments and went about his business [19:11] i'm unconcerned about what you discussed in private with someone [19:11] ikonia: does that nick have a history? [19:12] which one [19:12] i'm concerned about what happened in that public channel [19:12] ikonia: limcore i think? [19:12] PriceChild: BIG TIME [19:12] PriceChild: please see BT [19:12] @btlogin [19:12] and i agree that you have to try and drive discussions on topic in #ubuntu, but you need to do it with a softer touch IMO [19:12] blatting people over the head, especially with a ban hammer, is not polite [19:13] or conducive to retaining new users (or existing ones for that matter) [19:13] neuro_: the user was asked to stop 3 times by 2 different people [19:13] having the final word then saying "ok it's done" is not acceptable [19:13] he should have stopped 3 comments ago [19:13] not finished his rant then decided it was done [19:13] and you decided a ban was justifiable under those circumstances? [19:14] no I quitenend him to stop the conversation going on and disucssed it in private with him [19:14] and they actually said "ok, done", not "ok, it's done" [19:14] I don't think bans should be used "to make a point". [19:14] which he was very aminable [19:14] PriceChild: it was not used to make a point [19:14] done as in when someone asks you to do something [19:14] "put that away" "done" [19:14] i think you misunderstood his response, and you overreacted [19:14] no I didn't [19:15] and neither did the other person who asked him to stop [19:15] hmmm [19:15] let's take a deep breath [19:15] * neuro_ can't take deep breaths [19:15] smoker, poor lung capacity [19:16] tsk. [19:16] anyway [19:16] anyway [19:16] neuro_: I genuinly see your point, and to some extent take on board what your saying, feedback is always welcome, but I believe putting an end to the discussion and talking to the user in private was the correct thing to do [19:16] i've explained my actions, i've made a request, i hope you take it under the appropriate level of advisement [19:17] ikonia: i believe your "putting an end to the discussion" before discussing it in private with the user was an overreaction [19:17] so we shall differ on that point [19:17] i don't wish to beat that point to death :) [19:17] I appriciate that, [19:17] I find it refreshing that we have adult visitors in this channel [19:17] i'm not trying to argue on and on or make you lot change in a heartbeat [19:17] yes [19:18] neuro_: thank you for restoring my faith in humanity [19:18] neuro_: no one things you are, no offense is taken [19:18] Myrtti: if i was smoking menthols, i'd have that refreshing minty taste too [19:18] as I said feedback is always welcome [19:18] oooo [19:18] ikonia: ok [19:18] now, i need to go beat ompaul over the head for calling me "small", so i'll not take up any more of your time [19:18] thanks all :) [19:19] * Myrtti giggles [19:19] ROFL [19:19] ompaul really called him small [19:19] ?? [19:19] oy [19:19] funny [19:21] limcore is in PM now? [19:23] someone jump into -ot? [19:24] what's there [19:25] yes, I have limcore in pm [19:25] meh, over now. [19:26] common sense prevailed. [19:26] for the moment [19:29] can someone look at #ubuntu-fai [19:29] #ubuntu-fail [19:29] limcore has made an official channel #ubuntu-fail [19:29] is that known about ? [19:29] I can't look now as I'm talking to him [19:29] official channel? [19:30] Im there [19:30] how the hell can something like that be an official channel? [19:30] could someone look into it and deal with it appropriatly ? [19:30] staff need to close it for us [19:30] I'm just getting more info on everything but as you can imagine he's alittl bit of a handful [19:30] I'll get it sorted, we can move on. [19:30] thanks [19:31] understatement of the epoch [19:31] No need to be there [19:31] Lets watch our triggers and just help channels run smothly. [19:31] yes, Im here nalioth [19:34] nalioth: I thought you invited me here? or not [19:34] LimCore: here is where you can ask about creating unauthorized Ubuntu channels [19:35] I was not avare about no need to ask before creating any channel on freenode [19:35] you mean that all #ubuntu* channels are protected? [19:36] freenode isn't like other networks. Our channel naming guidelines can be found here: http://freenode.net/policy.shtml#channelnaming LimCore [19:36] Freenode isn't like other networks. Our channel guidelines can be found here: http://freenode.net/channel_guidelines.shtml LimCore [19:39] ok I read this again, but Im not sure [19:39] so, is one free to create any ##ubuntu* (about) channel or not? [19:42] if you create a channel for trolling, no. [19:43] * LimCore looks at #politics [19:44] nalioth: one can not create own, about, channel, in which he talk anything he wants to who ever chooses to join his channel? How is that freedom of speach>? [19:45] LimCore: #politics does not exist [19:45] deletion of #politics is very recent, I was not aware about ti [19:45] we are not here for 'free speech', we are here for the advancement of FLOSS software through communication [19:48] including ##windows ? [19:49] I will be happy to obey this rules on your server :) However, I dont apparently undestand their consistency in some places like this [19:49] there are thousands of OSL windows programs [19:49] open software license [19:51] thousands of OSL programs fail to work as exepected by their users. Where people can vent and talk about this? ##ubuntu is support, -bugs is technical [19:51] (btw, I still dont see how ##politics is related to supporting FLOSS. not that I'm complaining, just curious) [19:52] ##ubuntu doesn't exist. #ubuntu-offtopic is for general discussion relating to Ubuntu [19:52] ##politics is the toilet that keeps the trolls happy [19:52] yes I ment #ubuntu not ##ubuntu [19:53] you do not want to have a channel where people can express their unhapinness related to some software right? [19:53] #ubuntu-offtopic [19:55] LimCore: you seem to have a history [19:55] I rant about yast2 and SuSE and evolution-exchange on #ubuntu-offtopic on regular basis [19:55] I'd go cr... oh wait, I am already, nevermind, carry on. [19:56] PriceChild: you seem to have 10 characters in nick [19:56] LimCore: now there are constructive and polite ways to say "this is rubbish, do something about it", and then there's whining and creating silly channels [19:56] I bet at least some of you thought that name was funny [19:57] LimCore: maybe the first time [19:57] nalioth: oh ok. thanks [19:59] if one would want to create say #ubuntu-games - channel about games on Unbut, what is needed? [19:59] like, he needs any legal affilation or something, or not [19:59] a purpose or need for the channel would be a good start [20:00] so one is NOT free to create it right? ok [20:00] and same for ##ubuntu-games ? [20:01] Oh you're free to create it the single #... but we would rather you didn't unless you actually have a reason. [20:01] if I want it to be mine channel, not mining anyones approval or lack of it, then is ## a place for it, or also no? [20:02] *minding [20:03] LimCore: are you creating it for the hell of it still? [20:03] Because really... what's the point?! [20:04] well, this was the question :) What should be a validation to be able to create a channel [20:04] I thought that anyone can create whatever channel (minus some #officiall names) just because he can [20:04] Yes you 'can'. But 'should' you? [20:05] what is the servers owners view on this? [20:05] like... they dont mind [20:05] I 'can' not stop for people at a pelican crossing, but I 'should'. [20:05] or, they do mind, because it eats resources (I think it does not) etc [20:07] ok, simply. You dont like #ubuntu-fail, I see it as #ubuntu* are reserved so ubuntu officials decide, ok. What about 1) ##ubuntu-fail 2) ##ubuntu-mybugs (nicer name) 3) ##guhevefd43 (useless channel created just because). Creatinon of which of thoes channels are considred to be more or less "bad" thing to do here? [20:07] What is the point in any of them? [20:08] 1) would be rating about bugs, 2) as well but nicer name, and 3) would be used by two people that talk about oprivate stuff [20:09] why not make ##limcores-playground and do as you wish ( bar trolling, of course ) [20:09] instead of ranting about bugs, you can contirbute to them, post updates to the bugs, assist in the fixes (if possible) [20:09] channel energry in a better direction [20:09] nalioth: what do you mean by "bar trolling" [20:10] 1218393584 13:39 < LimCore> so, is one free to create any ##ubuntu* (about) channel or not? +robotgeek [20:10] 1218393776 13:42 <+nalioth> if you create a channel for trolling, no. [20:10] trolling is off topic on freenode [20:11] "bar trolling" == "but drop the trolling" ? [20:11] "bar trolling" means "except trolling" [20:12] (btw, I do not agree that all facts with added personal opionions, or not generally accepted views, even aimed to rise a bit interest, should be called "trolling") [20:16] LimCore: anything else we can help you with? [20:19] well no, you invited me here :) [20:19] bye === vorian is now known as vorian_ [21:46] In #ubuntuforums-beginners, speeddemon8803 said: ubot3 is NOT old by any standards..ubotu is old :D [21:46] hi, im banned from #ubuntu, do i have to be registered or something? [21:47] lets see [21:49] according to our banlog you are not banned [21:49] Cannot join #ubuntu (You are banned). [21:49] that's odd [21:49] im using xchat [21:49] no proxies or anything [21:50] right [21:51] Myrtti: banlog has him banned [21:51] Or at least, has something that'd ban him [21:51] Flannel: noted [21:51] what did i do? [21:51] took a while to find it [21:51] you didn't [21:52] hold on [21:52] Myrtti: the real name one looks safe to remove [21:52] Breatheeasy: try now [21:53] worked thankyou [21:53] no probs [21:53] how did i get myself banned? [21:53] you did nothing [21:53] it was a ban placed on the realname you were using [21:54] ah [21:54] so somebody else did something wrong with my name? [21:54] basically yes [21:54] Breatheeasy: Well, someone else who has the same name as you. Daniel F [21:54] hey guys, we have a bot at UbuntuForums, name "myfriends", sent me a link which appeared to be at ubuntu forums but is actually a link to some foreign site... [21:56] what is the link? [21:57] hello, is this your thread? http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?f...oster&t=707988. Thanks ::::: But the "http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?f...oster&t=707988" actually links to htt p :/ / w w w .p reownedwatches.us [21:57] forgot the quotes on the message quote [22:02] what is the ... replacing? [22:03] Tallken? [22:06] * elkbuntu cannot replicate with what you've given [22:18] elkbuntu, what? [22:18] elkbuntu, don't understand [22:18] Tallken, is http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?f...oster&t=707988 the full, unadulterated url? [22:19] as in, were the ... between the f and the o always there, or did you add them or replace something with them [22:20] elkbuntu, I received one private message on the forums, from "myfriends"; its title was: "Hi"; its body was: "hello, is this your thread? http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?f...oster&t=707988. Thanks" . But in fact, "http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?f...oster&t=707988" linked to "http://www.preownedwatches.us/" [22:20] right. i'm not getting that behaviour [22:21] Tallken: on ubuntuforums.org, not #ubuntuforums? [22:21] ya [22:21] elkbuntu: I think Tallken means: Tallken: this channel deals only with irc. In future, reports should go in #ubuntuforums, or in forum feedback and help, or in a pm to a mod [22:22] PriceChild, done [22:22] Tallken: #ubuntu-ops only control Ubuntu's IRC presence, not the forums. Although some of the ops are also moderators. [22:23] PriceChild, Pici , thanks for the information :) [22:23] * Myrtti goes to check her post count again [22:23] mine is 0. [22:24] 7 since registering on May 20th, 2005 [22:24] PriceChild, got it? [22:24] damn, again age crisis [22:27] Tallken: sorting it out [22:30] PriceChild, ok, going away now :)