[00:49] how do i set up a shared printer? [03:50] Hey all. I'm installing the Hard Heron Live Cd and getting a "errno 5 input/output error" half way through the installation process [04:07] do you have the installer log? [04:08] installer log? [04:10] /var/log/syslog and /var/log/partman [04:10] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingUbiquity/AttachingLogs [04:13] checking... [04:15] well I dont have an install [04:15] I'm running the terminal in the live cd without installing it [04:15] i tried sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop [04:20] iis there no way to install from terminal. say If I booted gparted and installed from there? [04:21] you can try that, but I recommend you try the alternate installer in that case. [04:21] i have and that install crashed too [04:21] I think it's my archaic cd drive [04:23] ok, I guess you can go the minimal approach. Take a server CD and install minimal. Log in, install xubuntu-desktop [04:23] (assuming you want Xubuntu, because after all, you're in this channel...) [04:24] i think I do [04:24] not that it really matter [04:24] gnome isn't much different is it? [04:24] so the server cd is xubuntu w/o the desktop? [04:25] also can I install the server in terminal. I'm out of CD's until I go to work [04:30] no, the server cd is just server [04:30] it does not install a graphical environment at all [04:30] that's why you'll need to log in and install xubuntu-desktop [04:31] i see [04:32] I can also install from a usb just as easily correct? i'll change my boot [04:32] install from/to, yes [04:32] thanks for all the help! Hopefully you wont be hearing from me [06:03] Hello? [07:38] hey cody-somerville_ are you around? [07:39] cody-somerville_: does that bug that causes xfce to hang on startup have a Launchpad # ? [07:39] Doing some GBJ stuff... 8) [16:07] Uh, does anyone know of a good 802.11G card for 8.04 that doesn't need ndiswrapper and can use WPA? [16:07] PCI preferably - USB could work. [16:08] atheros based ones, intel based ones [16:08] Any specific models? [16:11] I see that Atheros makes chipsets. Where could I find a list of cards based off those chipsets? [16:16] *Sigh* [16:26] madwifi.org [16:54] GourdCaptain, if you're not completely checked out, or others looking for the same... See list on http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=336&order=desc&page=3 I've had good luck with the Digicom USB Wave 54, although it doesn't show signal strength correctly everything else works ok. [17:21] anyone had success installing and booting xubuntu from USB Flash drive? [17:21] Any pointers or http:// links to a good recipe? Not pendrivelinux as that is a compressed image (I want a faster "native HDD" type install). [17:23] Hi, does anyone know of a good guide for installing MacMenu with XFCE? I'm lost :S [17:53] hansengel: you mean something like http://code.google.com/p/gnome2-globalmenu/wiki/InstallingonUbuntu ? [17:53] hansengel: but I never tried it [17:53] TheSheep: Yeah, but that's for Gnome [17:54] hansengel: well, just use the panel applet with the xfce panel plugin that lets you use gnome applets [17:56] xfce4-xfapplet-plugin [17:57] oh, cool! so I can use gnome applets with xfce-panel if I install that? [17:59] yes [17:59] k, I'll try it out [18:08] Hiya. I formated this partition from NTFS to ext3. I mounted it, but I can't write to it. What is wrong? [18:09] Woo: what's the error message? [18:09] There is none. It is just in white if I want to e.g create a folder. [18:10] what are the perms of the mountpoint? [18:10] Woo: what is the error message when you try to write to in terminal? [18:11] I have not tried to do anything in the terminal [18:12] I initiated a restart now [18:15] Nope [18:15] I don't think I have the permissions to write to it [18:16] Woo: I asked you something [18:16] Oh, I don't know. How do I see it? [18:16] !permissions | Woo [18:16] Woo: An explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions [18:18] rw nosuid nodev realtime data = ordered [18:20] I managed to get the properties by right clicking it from the wallpaper, if I did it through places it went to browse it [18:21] So how do I fix it? [18:24] Woo: those aren't permissions [18:25] Greetings [18:26] when changing the console keymap in /etc/default/console-setup, should I delete the md5 string? [18:28] It sais it can't be determined [18:29] i have a laptop with wireless drivers, and a wireless router but I dont know how to get the router to recognize the laptop, could someone help me out? [18:29] says* [18:30] Ok ,i have just installed Xubuntu from ubuntuserver and the graphics are a mess, I can hardly see a thing. how can I fix this. Xorg.conf yilded no information. [18:30] did you install your proper graphics card drivers? [18:31] How can i do that from recovery console? [18:32] raut what happens if click the left button and hold it? [18:32] you mean my mouse Woo? [18:33] yes [18:33] and on what window? [18:33] hm, seems i need to setup a wireless network...\ [18:34] yeah you should see a list of the accessible [18:34] Hondo_Kitsune: lspci | grep VGA && grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf [18:35] Ok, trying [18:35] rebooting [18:35] wols_: What do I do? It says the permissions could not be determined. [18:35] Hondo_Kitsune: do you have a Driver string in xorg.conf that somehow matches your VGA output from lspci? [18:36] It is rebooting I will tell you in a second [18:36] ok [18:36] It did not work [18:36] the graphics are still garbled [18:36] i see 'hpservice' [18:36] would that be someone elses network, or could it be my router? [18:37] Hondo_Kitsune: the command I gave should only give info, it doesn't modify anything [18:37] well, nothing spat out. I got returned to the terminal [18:37] lspci | grep VGA <- that's to find out what your gfx card is [18:38] or at least what Xubuntu sees [18:38] I did type that [18:38] nothing [18:38] Hondo_Kitsune: lspci -nn [18:38] kk [18:38] pastebin the output [18:38] just type that [18:38] i tried to put root as a mount option [18:38] and i had auto mount enabled [18:38] Woo: that is unpossible. every file has permissions associated. every single one [18:39] Paste bin, this is on another computer! if the output is large enough to warrent a pastebin, then this may take a while. [18:39] now it just gives me this error it can't mount with this mount option [18:39] i'm stuck [18:39] Hondo_Kitsune: does lspci return anything at all? [18:39] yes, it filled the screen [18:39] it is a VIA Chrome9 [18:40] is there any line starting with "VGA compatible controller"? [18:40] ok [18:40] that is what is filed under "VGA Compatible controller" [18:40] great [18:40] Woo: don't use an automounter. edit your /etc/fstab instead [18:40] My what? [18:41] your /etc/fstab [18:41] right... how do i do that? [18:41] Hondo_Kitsune: driver is eithe via or vesa. both should hopefully work [18:41] Woo: by using an editor? [18:41] how do i apt-get them? [18:41] Hondo_Kitsune: you don't since you already have them [18:42] do you have something i can paste in the terminal then? [18:42] well, I obviously DONT [18:42] Woo: yes. man fstab [18:42] Hondo_Kitsune: dpkg -l |grep xserver-xorg-video-vesa [18:42] because the graphics are garbled to no end [18:43] ok now i have a manual for something up, what next? [18:43] Hondo_Kitsune: if you have xubuntu installed with a X server you have them both. end of it [18:43] Woo: no you start to read? [18:43] wols_: I'd go for openchrome [18:43] PsynoKhi0: is that in xubuntu? [18:43] graphics are garbled with vesa [18:43] PsynoKhi0: if not, YOU tell him how to install it. good luck [18:43] wols_: I've just done a grep on video [18:44] should be there [18:44] PsynoKhi0: ok, didn't see it in my apt-cache at first. you're right. openchrome looks better suited [18:44] i think this sucks. in windows you open computer managment, go to disk managment, format it and then you are done. it works without problems. [18:44] i don't need a manual for it [18:44] Graphics are garbled with VIA too [18:44] Woo: then have fun running windows. have a nice day [18:45] Hondo_Kitsune: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-openchrome [18:45] already installed [18:45] of course it is [18:45] if it tells you it's there, sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf [18:45] patience!!! :P [18:45] well windows is much more user friendly. [18:46] Garbled with openchrome [18:46] sometimes linux just doesn't boot with no helpful advice except something with busybox. [18:46] Hondo_Kitsune: do you have it as your driver in xorg.conf? [18:46] Woo: do you have a support question? cause this is no "whine about xubuntu" channel... [18:47] xorg.conf mentions nothing about drivers anywhere in ti [18:47] Hondo_Kitsune: then let's edit it [18:47] kk [18:47] /etc/X11/xorg.conf yeah? [18:47] yes [18:48] kk [18:48] right shoot. [18:48] well if you don't take criticism of your os it won't improve. [18:48] go down to Section "Device" [18:48] i have also spoken to some developer here once about stuff like that, we mostly agreed. [18:48] Woo: cristicism is appreciated if constructive [18:48] kk [18:48] it is constructive. [18:49] Hondo_Kitsune: do you have a live with Identifier "Configured Video Device"? [18:49] in "Screen" [18:49] live = line [18:49] basically it sucks to an unskilled user, and is something that can be improved. [18:49] not in "Device" [18:49] Woo: then start. xubuntu is a community effort [18:50] i don't know anything about programming. i just want something that works. [18:50] Woo: yeah now THAT was constructive... "it sucks" [18:51] Hondo_Kitsune: what do you have under "Devcie" then? [18:51] Device* [18:51] yes. i could say it in other words of course, but that sums it up better. [18:51] Identifier "Configured Video Device" [18:52] Hondo_Kitsune: ok, right under it, before the EndSection, add the following: [18:52] Driver "openchrome" [18:52] then save and quit (ctrl + X, answer Yes) [18:52] garbled [18:53] wait... [18:53] restart your X server with ctrl + alt + backaspace [18:53] backspace* [18:53] XServer is not running [18:53] ghe hell... [18:53] We are in the terminal [18:53] not X, cant use X [18:53] it is a garbled mess [18:53] we are using root recovery [18:54] how are thigns garbled in console o.O [18:54] n ot in the console [18:54] we are using text interface [18:56] with something like [root@computer ~]# [18:56] yeah [18:57] ok, console :) [18:57] root@sushi:~ [18:57] how is it garbles then, like, cyrillic symbols on your directory names? [18:57] Nonono [18:57] the console is fine [18:57] X is garbled [18:59] too low a resolution? pixel mess? [18:59] nore of a jagged look [18:59] stepped [18:59] image waving on the sides? [18:59] no the whole thing is jagged and stepped [19:00] Hondo_Kitsune: enable font antialiasing in user interface settings [19:00] Cant get into X to sort that [19:00] Cant see anything in X properly [19:00] Hondo_Kitsune: reboot first [19:00] stuck in root console in recovery mode [19:00] just type reboot [19:00] kk [19:00] Hondo_Kitsune: if that's an LCD screen, make sure you are using its native resolution [19:01] how do i do that from console? [19:01] Hondo_Kitsune: good question [19:02] told you, X is defunct. I cant see anything in X properly the display is *** ed [19:02] Output in reboot is garbled [19:02] rebooting again into root console again [19:02] no need [19:03] press alt ctrl F1 at login screen [19:03] which puts me into console. thing is, this is a friends comp, and I dont have his password [19:03] i have to do everything from root [19:03] ah... [19:03] Ok, i am bak in root shell prompt [19:04] does the Xubuntu logo while loading display ok? [19:04] during normal boot [19:04] yes [19:04] but X11 is screwed [19:04] kk [19:05] it is your freind's monitor too? [19:05] friend* [19:05] So, my theory is a problem with Xorg [19:05] it is, he uses it on his Mac and it works fine [19:05] TheSheep: isn't there like a X -video-config command? [19:06] Hondo_Kitsune: we'll edit your xorg.conf again [19:06] right, in nano [19:07] yep [19:07] rwady to go [19:07] what kind of monitor is it? [19:07] LCD widescreen [19:07] fairly recent model then [19:07] it is a Bel'nea [19:08] scroll down to the Section "Monitor" [19:08] but it works in the Mac fine [19:08] do you have the model name? [19:08] not yet [19:08] I mean, on the front of the monitor, isn't there some product code string thingy? [19:08] all i know is that it is a belinea [19:08] nope [19:08] darn [19:09] 2230 S1W [19:09] ah [19:09] it was on the back [19:09] ty [19:09] it is aa 1680x1050W [19:13] Hondo_Kitsune: are you at Section "Monitor"? [19:15] yes [19:15] All that is in it is "identifier ..." [19:16] Hondo_Kitsune: ok add the following [19:16] shoot [19:16] Option "DPMS" [19:17] that it? [19:17] VertRefresh 60 - 60 [19:17] that on a new line? [19:17] those 2 lines under each other [19:17] ok [19:17] eeep scre the sapces actually [19:17] save and startx [19:17] screw* [19:17] so [19:17] VertRefresh 60-60 [19:17] kk [19:18] save and "startx"? [19:18] ok now, Section "Screen" [19:18] kk [19:18] if it ain't there, add: [19:18] DefaultDepth 16 [19:19] k [19:19] do you have any SubSection "Display" [19:20] no [19:20] nothing under Section "Screen"? [19:20] dont have Subsection under screen, no [19:21] ok [19:21] let's add the following then: [19:21] kk [19:21] SubSection "Display" [19:21] Depth "16" [19:22] kk [19:22] Endsubsection? [19:22] Modes "1680x1050" [19:22] EndSubSection [19:22] make sure you have capital letters where indicated [19:22] kk [19:23] PsynoKhi0: xorg.conf is not case-sensitive [19:23] save and startx? [19:23] TheSheep: well you learn something new everyday :) [19:23] Hondo_Kitsune: yes [19:23] Fatal error, no screens found [19:24] uh? [19:24] PArse error on line 49, "Display keyword requires a number to follow it" [19:24] in section "Screen" [19:25] AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH [19:25] my bad [19:25] :P [19:25] I typed Depth "16"... there shouldn't eb quotes [19:25] Depth 16 [19:25] sowwy [19:25] kk [19:26] Display is still garbled, but more "in line" [19:26] like interlacing is turned on [19:26] but not lined up [19:26] tough cookie!!! [19:26] no, not a cookie, Xorg [19:27] ok, before VertRefresh [19:27] add [19:27] HorizSync 30-81 [19:28] still garbled crap :P [19:28] that *should* be in the range of your monitor [19:28] but is starts faster :P [19:28] ffs [19:29] i know [19:29] VertRefresh 60-75 [19:30] Still garbled [19:30] are you sure the chrome chipset can run wide screen? [19:30] most modern ones can [19:30] the monitor is reporting 1680x1050 @ 60Hz [19:30] do you have a standard CRT or 2:3 LCD you could try? [19:31] afaid not [19:31] shoot [19:32] can we try installing VNC to get into XFCE? [19:32] so we have a GUI to play with [19:32] it is a server, so the chances are that is how it will be accessed anyway [19:32] this is our failsafe. how do we uninstall X and leave xubuntu untouched and not trying to boot it on startup [19:33] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=825858 hmm does that look familiar? [19:33] * Hondo_Kitsune looks [19:33] a bit like that, but worse [19:34] I'd take a picture, but I dont have my camera with me [19:34] ok, then... instead of Driver "openchrome" -> Driver "vesa" [19:34] ok hold on [19:34] IT LIVES! [19:34] :D [19:35] THank you *Tackle hug* [19:35] np [19:35] we have a console [19:35] you won't ebenfit from viedoe acceleration to watch movies nor 3d but... [19:35] we dont need that [19:35] it is a server :P [19:35] Thank you [19:35] sigh... I try again, in English [19:36] you won't benefit from video acceleration to watch movies nor 3d but... [19:36] IT is ok. we dont need acceleration [19:36] nice then, enjoy your box :) [19:36] I could kiss you, but that would be a bit gay :P [19:36] uh definitely... [19:37] so it seems the chorme driver has issues with wide screen... [19:37] chrome* [19:37] yahah [19:39] *hugs again* [19:39] hehe [19:39] *hugs google* [19:39] :P [19:40] TheSheep: are you around? [19:40] PsynoKhi0: yes [19:41] TheSheep: when chenging the console keymap in /etc/default/console-setup, am I suppoed to delete the MD5 string in the file? the cimmented text felt a bit cryptic [19:41] changing* [19:41] WTB typing skills... [19:42] PsynoKhi0: it says to not touch it [19:42] PsynoKhi0: and it's "aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa" on my system [19:42] it does? [19:42] uh [19:47] ok thanks [19:50] computer hangs randomly in Hardy when sound module is loaded (Sound Blaster 32 AWE ISA PnP), any taker? [19:56] PsynoKhi0: maybe try on #alsa [19:56] PsynoKhi0: it sounds like something low-level [19:56] TheSheep: ok thanks I will === cody-somerville_ is now known as cody-somerville === vorian is now known as vorian_ [20:48] #alsa is darn silent for a sound related chan... [20:50] PsynoKhi0: well, it's Sunday evening... [20:50] and everyone's watching the olympics... [20:50] :) [21:27] Hey guys, having a problem getting compiz to work, compiz-check says everything is okay though [21:27] ati radeon using fglrx [21:28] is your 3d wroking otherwise? [21:28] working* [21:28] haven't tried anything else yet [21:28] I'd start with that [21:28] glxinfo | grep direct [21:29] you might have to install a package though [21:29] mesa-utils or something like that [21:30] eh, well, it seems running glx gears just froze the system === RabidLockerGnom_ is now known as RabidLockerGnome [21:31] glxinfo | grep Vendor [21:31] I htink [21:31] thin* [21:32] ... [21:32] SGI [21:32] should be ATI [21:32] wait [21:32] ATI Technologies Inc. [21:32] ah [21:32] it seems to be set up correctly, i dont know why it's dying :-\ [21:32]