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totopalmahi :)00:01
totopalmaRiddell, can you take a look at bug #256471 please? :)00:03
ubottuLaunchpad bug 256471 in kdesdk "Missing kate icon in GNOME menu" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/25647100:03
Riddellhi totopalma00:04
Riddellhmm, gnome should really catch up with the icon name spec00:05
Riddellpatch: **** malformed patch at line 15: diff -u kdesdk-4.1.0/debian/kate.install kdesdk-4.1.0/debian/kate.install00:06
Riddellhuh?00:06
totopalmaRiddell, ok tomorrow i correct this problem :)00:07
totopalmasorry for my english00:08
RiddellI don't see what's wrong with it though, it looks fine00:09
JontheEchidnaoh man00:11
JontheEchidnathis patch is huge00:11
JontheEchidnaand it fails00:11
RiddellJontheEchidna: what's that?00:11
JontheEchidnaworking on updating Konversation to 1.100:11
JontheEchidnathere's this huge patch that modifies like every makefile00:12
Riddelltotopalma: got it to work, uploading thanks00:14
RiddellI'll also fix the issue upstream00:14
* totopalma hugs Riddell :)00:15
apacheloggerRiddell: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdesdk/+bug/256471/comments/300:16
ubottuLaunchpad bug 256471 in kdesdk "Missing kate icon in GNOME menu" [Low,Fix released]00:16
apacheloggernot really gnome's fault00:16
Riddellindeed not for that one, I'm being too quick to judge00:17
devfil_apachelogger: are you sure about oxygen and hicolor?00:21
devfil_in koffice2 some icons are installed into oxygen dir00:22
JontheEchidnacould somebody help me with this last patch?00:22
* JontheEchidna is overwhelmed by the fail00:23
JontheEchidnabut seriously, if you have a 1.5 MB patch you should just get upstream to change stuff00:23
JontheEchidnawonder if it will build without the patch00:27
Riddelldevfil_: all icons should be installed to oxygen except the ones for the application itself, used in the foo.desktop file, since other desktops read those00:28
JontheEchidnanope :(00:28
devfil_Riddell: ok, thanks for the info00:29
RiddellJontheEchidna: are you trying to make a patch of the Makefiles for debian/patches?00:30
JontheEchidnano00:30
Riddellwhat are you doing then?00:30
JontheEchidnatrying to get the existing one to work00:30
JontheEchidna98_buildprep.diff00:31
Riddelloh jings don't do that00:31
Riddelljust delete it00:31
coreymon77hows that update coming along00:32
Riddellcoreymon77: update?00:32
RiddellJontheEchidna: just delete that patch and run make -f debian/rules buildprep and the autotools stuff will sort itself out, I never bother making its output into a diff it doesn't have to be tracked and it's just nasty00:34
coreymon77the adding of konv 1.1 to the repos00:34
coreymon77 /the building the package00:34
JontheEchidnauh, it's coming00:35
JontheEchidnatrying to sort out some stuff00:35
* Riddell snoozes00:38
JontheEchidnaum, now debuild fails with unrepresentable file changes in konversation-1.1/po/<insertlanguagehere>/konversation.gmo00:38
JontheEchidnawell technically dpkg-source does00:38
* JontheEchidna just makes a copy of debian/ and nukes the source dir00:44
JontheEchidna:(00:47
JontheEchidnahttp://pastebin.com/df45462c00:48
JontheEchidnahalp00:48
apacheloggerhm01:06
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: nice issue you got there01:06
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: did you debuild in that source tree?01:07
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: btw, your version number is wrong :P01:07
JontheEchidnaI'm in the root of the source tree01:11
apacheloggerI mean did you actually build01:13
apacheloggerno -S thingy01:13
JontheEchidnaI used "debuild"01:13
apacheloggerfor testbuilding?01:13
JontheEchidnayeah01:13
apacheloggerwell01:13
apacheloggerI think the clean target needs some additions :)01:13
JontheEchidna*.gmo?01:14
apacheloggerwell po/*/konversation.gmo01:14
* apachelogger hates bugs01:14
apacheloggerwe do we keep adding them?01:14
JontheEchidnayou hate workarounds even more!01:15
JontheEchidnasince workarounds create bugs01:15
apacheloggersame applies for patches01:15
apacheloggerit's all related01:16
JontheEchidnaok, let's see if this works01:17
JontheEchidnabtw, what should the version be?01:17
JontheEchidna1.1-0ubuntu1?01:17
apacheloggeryes01:19
JontheEchidnawell, it got farther01:19
JontheEchidnaoh, maybe I should have used fakeroot to do make -f debian/rules buildprep01:20
JontheEchidnawould using sudo cause this: http://pastebin.com/d54bd2bb ?01:20
* JontheEchidna is grateful for cmake01:21
JontheEchidnaI officially hate autoconf01:22
Hobbseeyeah, run the buildprep stuff first.01:22
Hobbseeiirc.01:22
JontheEchidnawell I did01:23
JontheEchidnaas sudo01:23
JontheEchidnaI guess running it again won't hurt01:23
apacheloggeroh01:23
* apachelogger also hates autohell01:23
apacheloggerit is one gigantic bug caused by patching and workarounding01:23
apacheloggereventually autohell is the ultimate example of chaos theory01:24
coreymon77hence why it is called autohell01:25
coreymon77it automatically causes all hell01:25
apacheloggerwell, actually it's called autotools01:25
apacheloggerbut I never figured the auto in the 3000 tools it ships01:25
apacheloggeryay \o/01:26
apachelogger0 unread mails01:26
apacheloggerhammer time101:26
apacheloggers/1/!/g01:26
* Hobbsee makes sure she hits "NO" for upgrading her server to intrepid.01:27
JontheEchidnayay, building now01:28
* JontheEchidna hopes he didn't just jinx it01:28
apacheloggermeh01:28
apacheloggergetting debug stuff from qt packaged seperately is .... awful01:29
apacheloggeroh god01:29
JontheEchidnaWow, a 40x speedup in QGraphicsView01:29
JontheEchidnahttp://dot.kde.org/1218387228/01:29
apacheloggersometimes I am feeling so stupid I could jump down a bridge01:29
Hobbseeright.01:31
apacheloggerthe 7th time I build qt today01:32
JontheEchidnalook on the bright side01:33
JontheEchidnaat least you didn't waste all those cycles on GTK :P01:33
JontheEchidnaGimped Toolkit01:33
* JontheEchidna is sooo original01:33
apacheloggerthat thing would at least have FTBS in 4 of these 7 builds01:34
apachelogger"we all live in a blue submarine"01:34
coreymon77ftbs?01:34
JontheEchidnafailed to build from source01:35
apachelogger!ftbfs01:35
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about ftbfs01:35
coreymon77oh01:35
apacheloggeromg01:35
JontheEchidna\o/01:35
coreymon77i was thinking it to be something a little more vulgar01:35
apacheloggerubottu: I tend to think that insanity knows more than you do01:36
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)01:36
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)01:36
JontheEchidna^lol01:36
coreymon77judging by your current frustration01:36
apacheloggerubottu: insanity is as well! still she outsmarts you!01:36
JontheEchidnaI wonder what ~urban ftbfs would do...01:37
apacheloggercoreymon77: join #amarok01:37
coreymon77why?01:37
JontheEchidnaheh, nothing01:37
JontheEchidnaurban dictionary doesn't have ftbfs01:37
coreymon77ftbs would prob give some things01:37
apacheloggercoreymon77: vulgarity01:37
coreymon77wtf was that?01:38
JontheEchidnathe bot takes random confessions off of a website named grouphug01:38
apacheloggerone of the reasons I left amarok I guess01:39
Hobbseeapachelogger: you left amarok when?01:39
apacheloggerI really should have blogged :D01:39
JontheEchidnagood thing there was no drama, internet drama sinks ships!01:39
apacheloggerHobbsee: about a month ago01:40
Hobbseeouch01:40
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: I already was crying about that today01:40
apacheloggera drama would have been quite cool01:40
JontheEchidnaheh01:40
apacheloggerNightrose claimed that I am too professional01:40
coreymon77yup01:40
apacheloggermaking me think I am pretty lame, now that I am old :(01:40
Hobbseeapachelogger: well, you'll see the soyuz vulnerability blown open in two weeks, if they haven't fixed it.01:40
coreymon77urban gives the same definition for ftbs as i was thinking01:40
apacheloggerHobbsee: which one?01:41
Hobbseeapachelogger: the one about ppas, and being able to upload packages from MOTUs ppa's into the main archive.01:42
JontheEchidnao.O01:42
apacheloggertrue01:43
Hobbseeit was raised at UDS back in november (i think it was then), but they still haven't bothered to fix it.01:43
* apachelogger still thinks that soyuz should become open source :P01:43
JontheEchidnaHere's the plan:01:43
JontheEchidnaWe capture the repository and hold soyuz ransom for01:44
apacheloggeroh noes, he got a plan01:44
JontheEchidna.... 1 million dollars!01:44
apacheloggeroh01:44
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apacheloggerapachelogger is listening to "If I Had 1,000,000 Dollars" by Barenaked Ladies01:44
apacheloggerthere we go01:44
HobbseeJontheEchidna: i was thinking about taking a leaf out of ion's book, with what he did about trevhino's repositories.01:45
apacheloggeromg01:45
* JontheEchidna doesn't know who those are01:46
apacheloggerit must really be akademy01:46
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apacheloggeron commit to svn within the last 2 hours01:46
apacheloggerand that one was from Riddell01:46
apacheloggers/on/one/g01:46
* apachelogger should go to bed01:46
JontheEchidnayay, now on to dh_install01:46
JontheEchidnalol, it failed right as I said that01:47
apacheloggercool01:47
JontheEchidnawell now it's the easy part01:48
JontheEchidnaToo bad our sponsor for main is sleeping01:48
apacheloggeryah and the nixternal is uberbusy all the time01:50
apacheloggerbut01:50
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: Hobbsee is core dev as well01:50
JontheEchidnaah, cool01:50
apachelogger\\o01:50
apacheloggero//01:50
apacheloggern\o/01:50
apacheloggerI really need better light01:50
* apachelogger can't see his keyboard01:50
JontheEchidna:)-/-<01:52
JontheEchidna:)-|-<01:52
JontheEchidna:)-/-<01:52
* JontheEchidna dances01:52
JontheEchidnayay, builds01:52
apacheloggerthat style reminds me of a friend01:52
JontheEchidnaomg01:52
JontheEchidnano list-missing target01:53
apacheloggeromg01:53
apacheloggerdh_install --list-missing :P01:53
apacheloggerif you would use pbuilder my hooker would take care of that :P01:53
apacheloggersomehow that grammar doesn't sound right01:53
JontheEchidnaso if it returns absolutely nothing that's good right?01:55
apacheloggeryes01:55
JontheEchidnaor is it supposed to say "all files installed"01:55
apacheloggerthat actually sounds like a reasonable feature01:56
* apachelogger gets his 2nd sonic screwdriver today01:56
apacheloggerhm01:58
apacheloggerno, too late for bash01:58
* apachelogger gets a glass of orange juice01:58
JontheEchidnabrb, restarting konversation01:58
JontheEchidnagotta make sure it works ;-)01:59
JontheEchidnaSo Konversation has the oxygen nicklist theme in 1.102:00
JontheEchidnathat means we can remove it from k-d-s once this is out?02:00
apacheloggeryes02:03
* apachelogger goes to the bed02:04
apacheloggernini02:04
JontheEchidnanini02:04
JontheEchidnaliek whoa, 14.5 MiB debdiff02:07
JontheEchidnabig update02:08
JontheEchidnaHobbsee: could you sponsor bug 256733 please?02:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 256733 in konversation "new upstream release (konversation 1.1)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/25673302:10
nixternalhola02:15
nixternal:P02:15
vorian_jo!02:18
Jucatoyo nixternal02:19
JontheEchidnaa wild nixternal appears!02:19
* Jucato throws a pokeball at the wild nixternal to catch it02:19
* nixternal dodges the pokeball02:20
Jucatogah! need to weaken it first02:21
* Jucato lures the wild nixternal with a dozen bottles of beer02:21
nixternalno more beer!02:21
Jucato:P02:21
nixternalI spent $300 on beer friday....I am beered out until next weekend02:22
nixternalBARCAMP CHICAGO!!!02:22
nixternalFREE FOOD! FREE BEER! FREE LIVE MUSIC! FREE FREE SOFTWARE TALKS!02:22
JucatoFREE PUKING!02:22
nixternaland Ron May!02:22
Jucato!caps | nixternal and Jucato02:22
ubottunixternal and Jucato: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.02:22
nixternalcan't be the first to puke, otherwise you gotta wear the shirt02:22
vorian_:902:27
vorian_yukko02:27
Jucatonixternal: btw how are things there now after the tornado?02:31
nixternalsame as always and just as hectic02:34
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davmor2Riddell: Usplash playing up on shut down still but works on start up okay :)10:34
Riddelldavmor2: yay10:34
davmor2OEM mode on live = fail still10:34
davmor2Riddell: I just get a blank screen on user setup10:35
davmor2It's fine on the OEM bit but no user setup pages :(10:36
Riddelldavmor2: any backtrace anywhere?10:36
davmor2Riddell: I get nothing.  If you want I can try and get the log files will they tell you any thing and which do you need?10:38
Riddelldunno, might do10:38
davmor2Riddell: it doesn't crash it just doesn't work :)10:38
davmor2Riddell: there is a bug setup from A310:40
davmor2I'll add what I can there10:40
davmor2Riddell: there is a trace back on alt-ctrl-F1  but it goes off the screen will it be stored as a file somewhere?12:04
jtechidnamorning12:39
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davmor2Riddell: there are already log files attached to bug 25163412:41
ubottuLaunchpad bug 251634 in oem-config "Intrepid: Oem Installs fail on Kubuntu" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/25163412:41
JontheEchidnaRiddell: Could you take a look at bug 256733?12:42
ubottuLaunchpad bug 256733 in konversation "new upstream release (konversation 1.1)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/25673312:42
RiddellJontheEchidna: for a new upstream version a debdiff is less useful than just the diff.gz and .dsc12:54
JontheEchidnaoh, ok12:54
JontheEchidnawould you like me to upload those instead?12:54
RiddellJontheEchidna: naw it's good12:56
JontheEchidnaoh, ok12:56
Riddelljust means I have to fiddle with the old package and copy the debian dir accross12:56
* JontheEchidna needs to stop overusing oh, ok12:56
JontheEchidnaAnyway, I'm extremely grateful that KDE4 apps use cmake12:57
davmor2Riddell: would there be a trace back file for the OEM error as it is scrolled of the page?12:58
RiddellJontheEchidna: you lost kubuntu_05_default_channels.diff ?12:58
davmor2s/of/off12:58
Riddelldavmor2: mm, dunno, look in /var/log/installer12:59
davmor2I'll check it out ta :)12:59
JontheEchidnaRiddell: hmm, I don't remember seeing that one. Maybe it got lost during the debian merge?12:59
* JontheEchidna checks again12:59
RiddellJontheEchidna: and all the other kubuntu patches gone too?12:59
JontheEchidnaThey weren't in 1.0.113:00
JontheEchidnawhere I copied debian/ from13:00
JontheEchidnasome of the patches got fixed upstream13:01
Riddellhmm, I'm looking at the hardy one13:02
Riddellhow did that happen13:02
RiddellJontheEchidna: so you installed it and it runs?13:06
JontheEchidnaI'm using it right now13:07
RiddellJontheEchidna: excellent, uploading, thanks13:09
JontheEchidna:)13:09
davmor2Riddell: no more info in there than on the log files for bug 251634 from A313:09
Riddelldavmor2: ok, thanks13:10
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JontheEchidnaRiddell: I just pushed a kubuntu-default-settings commit which removes the Konversation Oxygen nicklist theme13:15
JontheEchidnafrom k-d-s13:16
JontheEchidnasince 1.1 includes it13:16
RiddellJontheEchidna: because it's now upstream?13:17
JontheEchidnayep13:17
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Artemis_Fowlseele: ping14:20
seeleArtemis_Fowl: pong14:27
Artemis_Fowlseele: the application is almost ready for a release14:28
seeleArtemis_Fowl: yay!14:28
Artemis_Fowlseele: :)14:29
Artemis_Fowlseele: the only thing left is some minor last code review and to create a systesettings module14:29
seeleok14:29
seelewill you ask apachelogger to make a package again?14:30
Artemis_Fowlseele: i think so, when I release (tomorrow or in 2 days)14:30
seelegreat, you will blog about it?14:32
Artemis_Fowlseele: anyway, you may always keep up-to-date compiling yourself the code (I know you hate it :) but I have written build instructions, just in case you or someone else wanted to give the SVN version a shot14:32
Artemis_Fowlseele: yes I will14:32
seeleArtemis_Fowl: ok.  if your instructions are good enough i might manage ;)14:33
Artemis_Fowlseele: the instructions are here: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/KGRUBEditor?content=7544214:33
Artemis_Fowlunder the SVN section14:34
Artemis_Fowlfeel free to try it if u want14:34
Artemis_Fowlseele: have a nice time at Akademy14:39
nixternalgood morning!15:05
JontheEchidnamorning15:17
JontheEchidnaholy crap17:24
JontheEchidnathe amount of incomplete bugs in LP went up by 100017:25
JontheEchidnao.O17:25
JontheEchidnaoh, it was a bunch of kernel bugs17:26
JontheEchidnagotta love Launchpad Janitor17:26
apacheloggerok18:21
apacheloggermy sister can't sing18:21
apacheloggernot a bit18:21
* apachelogger grabs his headphones18:21
* skreechmiester grins18:24
mornfall: - )18:28
mornfallDear people. I am sure there's someone who can fix adept 3 desktop files, right? : - ) And add those two missing, for updater and for installer.18:29
mornfallJust grab the source tarball from my PPA and fix it there -- might need to also fix tools/CMakeLists.txt. Pretty please... : - )18:29
mornfallThis issue is blocking beta 1 and I have no idea how to produce good desktop files it seems. A set that'd actually work, too.18:31
JontheEchidnaSo what exactly is wrong with the existing .destkop file in the tools dir?18:34
JontheEchidnadouble clicking it from the file manager opens adept manager up18:34
mornfallDunno, really.18:34
mornfallJontheEchidna: Does it show up on the menu in KDE?18:34
mornfallI think you have the alpha installed?18:34
JontheEchidnaalpha618:35
JontheEchidnahmm, no it doesn't show up in the KDE menu18:35
mornfallRight.18:35
mornfallThat's t he problem. :)18:35
JontheEchidnaheh18:35
mornfallIt might be installed in a wrong location.18:35
mornfallMoreover, there are 2 desktop files missing there. :)18:35
apachelogger<= desktop-file-obsessed-geek-who-is-not-at-akademy18:38
apacheloggerNightrose: amarok takes 58 mintues to build18:38
apachelogger...qt takes 1hour 10 minutes18:39
mornfallapachelogger: So you want to fix my desktopfiles? : - )18:41
apacheloggeryes, but laterish18:41
mornfallThanks.18:41
* apachelogger needs to finish the new project neon stuff18:41
JontheEchidnaok, so it looks like it's being installed correctly in CMakeLists.txt18:41
mornfallThere are still a few days left for it.18:41
JontheEchidnaoh wait18:41
JontheEchidnahmm, nevermind18:42
apacheloggeromg18:42
apacheloggerthat is taking forver18:42
apacheloggerif someone gets amarok-nightly-qt working with seperate -dbg package I probably would owe some beers18:43
JontheEchidnaok, so the destkop file *is* being installed to the correct location18:44
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: it's not18:45
apacheloggerdood18:45
apacheloggergo read the specs18:45
JontheEchidnawell konversation is in the same directory18:46
JontheEchidnabut come to think of it18:46
JontheEchidnawhen I click on konversation from kmenu nothing happens18:46
apacheloggerkonvi is KDE 3 adept 3 is KDE 4 :P18:47
JontheEchidnaso do you think just changing it to install to the kde4 dir would fix things?18:48
apacheloggernope18:48
apacheloggerbut it's still the wrong directory18:48
apacheloggermornfall: http://paste.ubuntu.com/36598/19:24
apacheloggeryou shouldn't use file( GLOB x) for variables19:25
apacheloggerfile() is only available for easy bug introduction ;-)19:25
mornfallOh, I should. I hate to edit anything after adding new source files.19:26
mornfallThe system should cope with it.19:26
mornfall(And in this case, it seems to work quite well.)19:26
apacheloggerwell, talk with the cmake guys or poke kde's alexander neundorfer19:26
apacheloggerfor some reason we never use file glob19:26
apacheloggerbesides, in adept's case it caused stupid cmake errors :P19:27
mornfallIt did? Hmh.19:27
apacheloggerSyntax error in cmake code at19:28
apachelogger/home/me/tmp/adept-3.0~alpha6+ubuntu1/adept/CMakeLists.txt:8:19:28
apacheloggersyntax error, unexpected cal_SYMBOL, expecting } (65), when parsing string "${/home/me/tmp/adept-3.0~alpha6+ubuntu1/adept/packagedetails.cpp}"19:28
mornfallDuh. Naver seen that happen.19:28
mornfallnever*19:28
mornfallAnyhow, thanks for those desktops, I'm applying the patch for that. I'll think about those globs -- but I use it in all my cmake-ified projects without issues so far (other than .#foo.cpp appearing thanks to emacs, but I can handle that.)19:29
apacheloggermaybe there is a better but as easy way to handle this19:29
* apachelogger takes his new neonmake for a testdrive19:30
mornfallapachelogger: You're Harald Sitter?19:30
apacheloggeryes19:31
mornfallRecorded. TA.19:31
apacheloggeruhh19:34
apacheloggerthat neonmake is cool19:34
apacheloggerusing software for the first time after working on it for weeks is somewhat strange ;-)19:35
yuriyI think the reason cmake wants you to list source files is because then it knows when to rerun cmake if you add or remove files19:36
apacheloggersounds sensible19:38
apacheloggerNightrose:     *  amarok-nightly-dbg_20080811+svn845404-0neon1_i386.deb  (83.3 MiB)19:49
apacheloggerI have never seen such an awfully big dbg package :P19:49
mornfallyuriy: But it always reruns cmake when you touch cmakelists.20:05
mornfallyuriy: Rerunning cmake to pick up new files is definitely less work than editing the lists...20:05
JontheEchidnaliek whoa, OpenGL 3.020:40
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JontheEchidnalololololol23:25
JontheEchidnagmail screwed up and gave me 380 copies of one bug email23:25
yuriyyou're going to have to respond 380 times23:26
JontheEchidnathe problem was23:26
JontheEchidnait wasn't deleting it off the smtp server as I was downloading it23:26
JontheEchidnaso every time it checked, I got a new copy23:26
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