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| benje | hello bug about amilo resolved the amd74xx bug was due to CONFIG_IDEPCI_SHARE_IRQ to NO | 06:18 |
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| benje | you have to set it to no | 06:19 |
| benje | and cdrom is ok | 06:19 |
| benje | how can ia do a simple patch for ? | 06:19 |
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| benje | hi | 07:35 |
| alex_joni | benje: first find the bug at launchpad, then add the info there | 07:47 |
| Kano | did somebody try that next kernel? i updated it to kernel git but still rt2x00 is broken and i get dmi bios error that it wants acpi=force | 09:45 |
| Ng | which alsa is in intrepid? | 10:35 |
| Ng | please say 1.0.17 ;) | 10:36 |
| Kano | thats in 2.6.27, in 2.6.26 is 1.0.16 | 10:36 |
| Ng | Kano: but afaics ubuntu uses a separate ALSA from the kernel anyway, 'cos it's in LUM | 11:38 |
| Kano | Ng: only 2.6.24 | 11:38 |
| Kano | there is no lum for 2.6.26/7 | 11:38 |
| Ng | oh | 11:38 |
| Ng | bah | 11:38 |
| Ng | 1.0.17 has a bunch of new hardware support :/ | 11:39 |
| Kano | then delete buildin alsa and compile it externally | 11:39 |
| Kano | modprobe -l|awk /snd-/|xargs rm -f | 11:39 |
| Kano | then the kernel ones are gone away, compile alsa manually | 11:39 |
| Ng | I already rebuild LUM with 1.0.17 for my laptop, but there are plenty of users for whom that isn't a realistic option :) | 11:40 |
| Ng | perhaps lbm could contain 1.0.17? | 11:40 |
| abogani | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kernel-team/2008-August/002867.html | 11:49 |
| Ng | aha | 11:50 |
| Ng | I'll wait for ben to wake up then :) | 11:50 |
| BenC | TheMuso: your zinc account is done | 14:22 |
| BenC | Ng: ? | 14:22 |
| Ng | BenC: aha :) | 14:22 |
| Ng | BenC: I was wondering about the possibilities of alsa 1.0.17 getting into intrepid | 14:22 |
| Ng | my laptop is entirely silent with .16, as are some others aiui | 14:22 |
| BenC | Ng: it's highly possible....not for Alpha4, but shortly after | 14:22 |
| BenC | Ng: is that a regression? | 14:23 |
| Ng | no, it was never supported in hardy, it required new code in hda_intel to work | 14:23 |
| Ng | I've been building my own LUM with 1.0.16 removed and 1.0.17 put in ;) | 14:23 |
| Ng | I've encountered at least one other person with newer hardware than .16 supports, so my guess is that several hda_intel variants are new enough to only be in .17 | 14:25 |
| Ng | obviously this will always be the case, but if we can sanely do it, then I'd be very happy to see it :) | 14:25 |
| BenC | Ng: Can you test 2.6.27-rc2 deb's from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/pub/next/2.6.27-rc2/ ? | 14:27 |
| BenC | Ng: It's got LUM built-in (like intrepid) | 14:27 |
| Ng | sure | 14:29 |
| Ng | should it JustWork with hardy userspace? | 14:30 |
| TheMuso | BenC: Thanks. | 14:30 |
| TheMuso | Ng: I'm actually going to be looking at backporting important driver fixes/updates from 1.0.17 to hardy's 1.0.16 alsa-driver code. | 14:31 |
| Ng | TheMuso: aha, well I'll probably be running Intrepid in the next month if I stick to my usual schedule, but I'm sure there are people who will be sticking with hardy for a lot longer who'd appreciate something like that | 14:32 |
| TheMuso | Ng: Yeah, supporting newer sound hardware for hardy, at least for a while, is something that IMo needs to be done. | 14:33 |
| Ng | TheMuso: well my suggestion would be to start with hda_intel - my impression is that that covers more current hardware than any other driver. I could be wrong, that's just my guess ;) | 14:34 |
| TheMuso | Ng: Yes thats one of the ones being considered. | 14:34 |
| Ng | :) | 14:34 |
| BenC | Ng: it's a good guess :) | 14:35 |
| BenC | Almost anything coming out today is based on HDA, whether it's AMD or Intel chipset | 14:35 |
| Ng | it's a bit weird that there are so many variants though | 14:35 |
| TheMuso | IMO weird is an understatement. | 14:35 |
| BenC | Ng: it's more than weird, it's hugely irritating | 14:35 |
| mjg59 | Ng: Multiple different codecs that can be attached, and then vendors can wire them all up in different ways | 14:36 |
| BenC | Ng: the main thing is that HDA just defines a way to access the codec...it doesn't have a built-in way to define the pin-outs, so they have to be hardcoded :/ | 14:36 |
| mjg59 | Oh, there's a definition | 14:36 |
| mjg59 | It's just often ignored | 14:36 |
| mjg59 | The BIOS is supposed to provide a table | 14:37 |
| Ng | ahhh. by which I mean "ugh" ;) | 14:37 |
| BenC | mjg59: that's funny...I assumed it didn't because more often than not, new hardware doesn't work out-of-the-box | 14:37 |
| mjg59 | I think Linux has occasionally been poor at using the BIOS information, but also vendors are poor at putting anything in there | 14:38 |
| mjg59 | The Windows .inf files usually contain the pinouts | 14:38 |
| mjg59 | What /would/ be nice would be some way of using the .inf to teach the kernel | 14:38 |
| BenC | mjg59: Tim and I talked about doing that, but never got around to looking at it | 14:39 |
| Ng | sounds like something Wubi would be able to harvest pre-install | 14:39 |
| mjg59 | Yeah | 14:39 |
| Ng | but useless to those of us who stab windows in the face when deboxing a laptop ;) | 14:39 |
| mjg59 | If you've got the driver CD, there's still hope | 14:39 |
| BenC | deflowering I think is the term you were looking for :) | 14:40 |
| * TheMuso is personally not a fan of recovery partitions. | 14:40 | |
| Ng | yeah in this laptop's case there were no CDs in the box, it's pure recovery partition, but naturally I stabbed that in the face too. I'm probably an atypical user though, and I like the idea of being able to steal information from .inf files more generally :) | 14:41 |
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| BenC | Ng: let me know if that 2.6.27-rc2 kernel works for you...I plan on using sound/ out of that for intrepid/2.6.26 kernel | 15:24 |
| Ng | BenC: will do, I'll give it a try when I get home | 15:24 |
| rtg | BenC: where is the root partition remounted? Is that done in initramfs? In particular, I'm curious how file system options are applied after the initial mount. | 15:28 |
| BenC | rtg: remount is done in init scripts from the root partition | 15:30 |
| rtg | BenC: checkroot.sh ? | 15:31 |
| BenC | rtg: looks right | 15:39 |
| abogani | rtg, BenC: Sorry to bother you. Are there some chance to have an linux-restricted-modules-source package (as i requested in https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kernel-team/2008-August/002871.html)? | 16:22 |
| BenC | abogani: we're considering making it spit out dkms packages instead, which will get it working for any kernel installed (including -rt) | 16:23 |
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| abogani | BenC, Wow! it would be great! One less package to handle! :-) | 16:25 |
| _gAri- | hi there, can you please help me out where can I find the ubuntu specific kernel patch in peaces that is applied to the vanilla kernel? I mean I only want to use parts of it, not totally | 17:17 |
| mjg59 | _gAri-: It doesn't exist | 17:18 |
| mjg59 | _gAri-: If you download the Ubuntu kernel git tree, you can extract individual patches from it with git | 17:18 |
| _gAri- | can you give me a clue how to do that? | 17:41 |
| _gAri- | I'm not a kernel developper, I just want to patch a vanilla kernel with the apparmor version ubuntu uses, and PAX or grsecurity. | 17:41 |
| _gAri- | actually if I patch a vanilla kernel with apparmor myself, it says that the profiles are malformed or something like this | 17:42 |
| mdz | has anyone looked at bug 255635? | 18:19 |
| mdz | https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/linux/+bug/255635 | 18:19 |
| bdmurray | superm1: Do you have any ideas about bug 257003? | 18:43 |
| superm1 | bdmurray, yeah its been addressed in the latest git tree | 18:52 |
| superm1 | bdmurray, i was holding off doing an upload as it should just be in the next driver release though | 18:53 |
| bdmurray | superm1: what can I do in the mean time? | 18:54 |
| superm1 | bdmurray, manually remove any symlinks in /usr/lib32/fglrx | 18:54 |
| superm1 | make sure to only remove the symlinks though | 18:54 |
| iiinc | Where should I ask about m-a kernel source package uploads? Noticed that drbd8 module source isn't in hardy/intrepid | 18:55 |
| iiinc | scratch that, it's in ubuntu-modules. Sigh. | 18:57 |
| BenC | mjg59: would you agree that if dsilvers tlsup driver works as advertised, we don't need any of the tosh workarounds in acpi-support? | 18:59 |
| BenC | His driver compiles, and seems to do what he said it does (works out-of-box with no /dev/ or /proc/ stuff to mess around with) | 18:59 |
| BenC | has hotkeys going through input-devpoll | 19:00 |
| BenC | real backlight driver, etc. | 19:00 |
| BenC | ogasawara: Is it possible to have a count of current/carried-forward/fixed on intrepid-buglist.html? | 21:48 |
| ogasawara | BenC: yup, I can just add it to the page | 21:49 |
| BenC | ogasawara: thanks | 21:49 |
| BenC | ogasawara: looks like we are really backed up | 21:49 |
| hyperair_ | BenC, iwlagn (using intel 4965 agn) looks for iwlwifi-4965-2.ucode in the 2.6.27 kernel.. where do i get the firmware? | 21:49 |
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| BenC | hyperair: I need to upload latest lrm to intrepid...then you can get it from linux-restricted-modules-common | 21:50 |
| hyperair | BenC, i see. thanks. any chance of it being backported to hardy? | 21:51 |
| BenC | hyperair: You can install the lrm-common from intrepid to hardy with no problems | 21:52 |
| hyperair | i see | 21:53 |
| hyperair | what about the kernel itself? | 21:53 |
| hyperair | i got it from kernels.ubuntu.com or soemthing of that sort | 21:53 |
| hyperair | make that kernel.ubuntu.com | 21:54 |
| BenC | hyperair: what about it? | 21:55 |
| hyperair | any chance of it entering backports? | 21:55 |
| hyperair | i'm looking specifically at this kernel because it's got .17 alsa drivers | 21:55 |
| hyperair | and anything below that doesn't support lenovo y410 very well | 21:55 |
| abogani | BenC, When i could know if lrm switch (or no) to dkms? | 21:56 |
| BenC | hyperair: not to hardy, no | 21:56 |
| BenC | hyperair: we will likely have .17 alsa in intrepid though | 21:56 |
| BenC | abogani: it will switch, hopefully by alpha5 | 21:56 |
| BenC | hyperair: lrm for intrepid just uploaded, so give it a few hours | 21:56 |
| abogani | BenC, Is it already definitive? | 21:57 |
| laga | hello. | 21:58 |
| BenC | abogani: it was already decided awhile back, I just haven't switched it out yet | 21:59 |
| laga | BenC: BTW, i showed the intrepid kernel source tree to the aufs maintainer and he said he can't support it because some files are missing ;) | 21:59 |
| abogani | BenC, Ok. thanks! | 22:00 |
| hyperair | BenC, thanks. | 22:00 |
| BenC | laga: what files? | 22:01 |
| laga | BenC: stuff like Kconfig and Makefile. i'm having trouble with NFS right now, but i think i know what's missing | 22:03 |
| BenC | laga: lol...there is a Makefile/Kconfig, else the damn thing wouldn't build :) | 22:03 |
| BenC | laga: There was some stuff related to NFS in there, but it required ugly patches to the kernel, and I wasn't prepared to apply them (unless aufs maintainer is prepared to support those patches in case they break anything else) | 22:04 |
| laga | indeed, but they are truncated. | 22:05 |
| BenC | laga: truncated to just what we need...that has nothing to do with the code | 22:05 |
| laga | BenC: ugly patches? it should require the following patches: | 22:09 |
| laga | http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ubuntu/ubuntu-intrepid.git;a=blobdiff;f=fs/file_table.c;h=0b6dbac60adda31cb1ba57c93a46c2cad71e7a1d;hp=83084225b4c3b3195520d5a7a441360046d6f230;hb=3b3cff7d20e3a13b89f77e641362170000ffc5c0;hpb=952058fa3a0ea802fb5e958a69119aeb01aae7a9 | 22:09 |
| laga | http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ubuntu/ubuntu-intrepid.git;a=blobdiff;f=fs/namei.c;h=df4bd0d1515eb139648088a194e1311bc3dd4dc0;hp=01e67dddcc3d2033a2038c37f9f791ba0921a781;hb=3b3cff7d20e3a13b89f77e641362170000ffc5c0;hpb=952058fa3a0ea802fb5e958a69119aeb01aae7a9 | 22:09 |
| laga | http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ubuntu/ubuntu-intrepid.git;a=blobdiff;f=include/linux/namei.h;h=33c7f23f716ef1009158ffe01690356e11a2fe3e;hp=24d88e98a62648180a553fdfb457837bcbcb5c00;hb=3b3cff7d20e3a13b89f77e641362170000ffc5c0;hpb=952058fa3a0ea802fb5e958a69119aeb01aae7a9 | 22:09 |
| laga | Mythbuntu really needs these patches :) | 22:09 |
| laga | it's mostly exported symbols | 22:09 |
| BenC | laga: Actually, it shouldn't even need that if we compile aufs into the kernel (which I would rather do) | 22:12 |
| laga | okay, then i'm going to edit the config, rebuild the kernel and try again. | 22:15 |
| laga | can i just edit debian/config/amd64/config or is that bad karma? | 22:18 |
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| BenC | laga: that should work | 23:20 |
| laga | okay. | 23:21 |
| laga | interesting, make distclean deleted debian/ | 23:21 |
| tormod | I am looking for someone to sponsor bug #192772, the debdiff is 6 weeks old, and another freeze is coming... | 23:23 |
| tormod | the same happened with the same package in Hardy, please don't let it happen again | 23:24 |
| BenC | tormod: I'll look into it | 23:30 |
| tormod | thanks! | 23:30 |
| mjg59 | BenC: Yup. | 23:39 |
| laga | BenC: is there any reason not to restore Kconfig for aufs? it looks like it's doing some magic to set invisible config items like AUFS_BR_NFS. but i could also just hardcode these in config | 23:53 |
| BenC | laga: just add the ones we care about | 23:56 |
| BenC | The rest are pointless clutter if we aren't actually using them | 23:56 |
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