[08:30] <persia> StevenK: Apropos to the discussion in -devel, there was some talk last night (involving Whoopie and slytherin) about advantages of updating to the 4.x stack for BlueZ.  Do you have an opinion on that?
[08:32] <StevenK> persia: Yes. 4.x is not stable, and FF is very close. :-)
[08:32] <persia> StevenK: That was my feeling.  I'm glad to hear it confirmed.
[15:06] <futhar> this question may sound stipid :) but is it posible to install the ubuntu mobile on a smart phone?
[15:09] <persia> futhar: Only if the smart phone is implemented wth Ubuntu Mobile compatible hardware.  As far as I know, only the Sharp D4 meets that criteria now, and I suspect that significant post-installation customisation is required for an ideal arrangement.
[15:10] <persia> That said, I wouldn't install Ubuntu Mobile on something I intended to use as a phone, as I don't believe the applications to handle telephony are currently mature enough (most apps seem to concentrate on VoIP, rather than on VoGSM or the like)
[15:12] <futhar> the phone i want to install ubuntu mobile is lilbit old so it looks like the phone is un ubuntu compatible :) but i can always try :D
[15:14] <futhar> is there a list of the compatible smart phones
[15:15] <persia> There isn't.  I keep meaning to add a testing section to the wiki, but have so far failed to do so.
[15:15] <persia> Basically, you need one with an lpia processor (Intel A100, A110, or Atom).
[15:16] <persia> Beyond that the requirements are usually met (or at least I've not yet seen such a device with reported specs that couldn't run Ubuntu Moblie, albeit perhaps with some post-install tweaking)
[15:16] <futhar> hmmmmmm
[15:17] <futhar> my phone uses 	Symbian OS v7.0, UIQ v2.0 UI but i dont know what kind of processor it has 
[15:17] <persia> futhar: Which phone?
[15:18]  * persia suspects ARM, but may be mistaken
[15:19] <futhar> p900
[15:19] <futhar> but i have a nokia 9300 too
[15:20] <suihkulokki> first you need to get linux kernel booted on it, then you can start thinking about distributions such ubuntu..
[15:21] <futhar> you are right 
[15:23] <persia> futhar: P900 is ARM9@156MHz (not sure which flavour), and 9300 is OMAP 1510 @ 150 MHZ.  Even if you got a kernel booting, I'd recommend something more lightweight for those devices.
[15:40] <futhar> such as?
[15:49] <persia> futhar: I ran a QTopia environment on a 200MHz XScale for a while, but that was years ago, so I'm not sure that there isn't something better for smaller/older devices now (and no, I don't have any good suggestions).
[15:55] <futhar> persia: sorry just this last stupid question: the max memory storage of the phone is software or hardware limit?
[16:00] <persia> futhar: Both.  For most phones currently available, it's more likely to be HW, as most of the software stacks will allow 4G, but hardware rarely allows more than 1 or 2.
[16:54] <ian_brasil> hey...if i would like to change the home area to flash or clutter what is the best way to do this?
[22:12] <pyronik> is there any work in terms of voice command ?