/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/08/11/#ubuntu-ops.txt

elky_workTallken: this is generally not considered to be a safe place to idle. we get some pretty fired up people come in here at times, and they like to take it out on this entire channel. they dont discriminate 'evil ops' from innocent onlookers00:35
Myrttidarkbytez: how can we help you?00:37
darkbytezjust trying the irc client on ubuntu, thanks00:37
Myrttiweird place to try it in00:38
darkbytezwell,i think so00:38
darkbytezi need to learn a little bit more about irc chatting00:39
Myrttioh - for that I'd suggest #ubuntu-offtopic or some other less formal channel than this00:40
Tallkenelky_work, sorry? what do you mean? my idle times here (IRC) aren't usually bigger than 2h or so00:41
darkbytezi will go there, where i can find info about the ATI drivers and ubuntu?00:42
Tallkenanyway, leaving00:43
Tallkencya later!00:43
darkbytezi'm dissapointed about ATI and open source drivers00:43
MyrttiI guess #ubuntu might be the correct starting point on that, if you've got spesific problems with the drivers and ubuntu00:45
darkbytezok, thanks a lot00:46
ubottuAlmightyCthulhu called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic ()00:46
Hobbseeikonia: oh, you finally got sick of limcore?  excellent.00:46
* Mez yawns00:48
Hobbseehe's been ranting in -bugs again too.00:51
Hobbsee[09:34] <LimCore> 09:14:21> howevet, typical user that wants to find a way to extract his archive, will stop reading after he finds option called "extract"00:52
Hobbsee[09:34] <greg-g> 09:14:47> and when it doesn't work they will bring up the man page again and read 4 lines down00:52
Hobbsee[09:34] <greg-g> 09:14:52> (what I did)00:52
Hobbsee[09:34] <LimCore> 09:15:16> I like when software do not waste my time like this00:52
Hobbsee[09:34] <LimCore> 09:15:41> if user did things according to first part manual, and it did not work, then this is not intuitive at all00:52
Hobbsee[09:34] <greg-g> 09:15:46> but, feel free to edit the man page how you want, submit a patch to BOTH the upstream and Ubuntu and then wait for acceptance00:52
Hobbsee[09:34] <LimCore> 09:16:14> well, if ubuntu developers overall dont see problem which I describe here, then I dont think ubuntu tries to be user friendly after all00:52
Hobbseeyes, because clearly, ubuntu developers are writing everything in existance, including manpages.  I thought he'd been around enough to get more clue.00:52
Myrttidarkbytez: did you have any other questions?00:53
stdinHobbsee: he did apparently promise that "the persistant come in - rant / name call/ disrupt had to stop", and apparently isn't keeping that promise00:55
Hobbseestdin: do we have a log of that?00:56
stdin@comment 342600:56
Hobbseestdin: i'm happy to boot him from the channel, as he's really not being productive...00:56
ubottustdin: 'Aug 10 2008 18:11:01 ikonia: a known issue user, persistantly ranting has been warned MANY times, he does this in many channels, however #ubuntu should not suffer  beecause of this users attitude/actions\r\n'00:56
ubottustdin: Aug 10 2008 18:43:27 ikonia: positive pm with limcore (although based on past warnings/conversations could be faking it) agreed to contibute and discuss issues rather than come in name calling issues/ubuntu/ranting/etc. Ban lifted but he had a pretty indepth discussion that the persistant come in - rant / name call/ disrupt had to stop00:56
stdinsee the last comment ^00:56
darkbytezno thanks Myrtti00:57
Hobbseeikonia: can you confirm that with him for both #ubuntu *and* #ubuntu-bugs *and* ubuntu-quality?00:57
Mezdarkbytez, please see /topic then00:57
ubottuIn #kubuntu-devel, apachelogger said: ubottu: insanity is as well! still she outsmarts you!01:36
ubottuIn #kubuntu-devel, apachelogger said: ubottu: insanity is as well! still she outsmarts you!01:36
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Picifyi, I'm on vacation this week, so I may not be around much.02:08
Myrttioo, vacation02:10
bigfuzzyjesusthink i could get unbanned from offtopic02:10
bigfuzzyjesus?02:10
bigfuzzyjesuselkbuntu, do you think i could get unbanned from #ubuntu-offtopic02:15
bigfuzzyjesustonyyarusso^02:16
bigfuzzyjesusLjL^02:16
Myrttiare you in such a great hurry you're going to ping everyone02:16
MyrttiI don't think entry to -offtopic is so urgent...02:17
Myrttishouldn't be, anyway02:17
bigfuzzyjesussorry, i just wanted to ask about it, before i forget02:17
Myrttiwould you happen to remember why you were banned originally?02:18
bigfuzzyjesusfor flooding02:18
bigfuzzyjesussomewhere around a year ago02:19
bigfuzzyjesusmaybe less, maybe more02:19
orgthingyanyway, Can i be "official IRC helper " :D ?02:19
Myrttiorgthingy: I don't think such titles are given02:20
orgthingyMyrtti : can we make one :D ?02:20
orgthingyu created a whole new distro.. im pretty sure u can make such a title02:21
Myrttiorgthingy: I'm not in such a humorous mood right now02:21
Myrttito even discuss this02:21
orgthingygroup of trusted people that can help in irc02:21
orgthingyMyrtti : im pretty serious about it02:21
orgthingybut, umm, ok..02:21
elky_workorgthingy: trusted people dont need special titles for their egos02:21
Myrttiwe already have those - and they don't get any special titles02:21
orgthingyaha, i see, no special titles02:21
bigfuzzyjesusso about being unbanned02:22
Myrttibigfuzzyjesus: I'm not going to make such a decision since the bantracker shows nothing on you02:23
elky_workhe predates the bantracker.02:23
elky_workthe council will discuss. it will not have judgement immediately. please come back tomorrow02:24
Myrttiand since bantracker doesn't show a thing about you, your case will have to be reviewed better and with time02:24
bigfuzzyjesusokay02:24
bigfuzzyjesusis seveas still an op?02:25
orgthingyoh, he knows ops02:25
orgthingythats bad02:25
orgthingy:(02:25
Myrttiorgthingy: do you have any other business here?02:25
orgthingyMyrtti : ah, cant i stay :'( ?02:26
orgthingyi like discussions here02:26
Myrttinope02:26
Myrttisee /topic02:26
orgthingyumm, ok02:26
nickrudUbums, maybe?02:27
nickrudUbuds I meant.02:28
Picinickrud: hmm?02:28
nickrudorthingy ^^02:28
Myrttijust a friendly reminder - please check what bans you've got on #ubuntu and clear out unneeded ones02:30
bigfuzzyjesusPici, are you an op?02:33
Picibigfuzzyjesus: yes02:33
bigfuzzyjesusPici, oh wow, i did not know that02:33
Myrttibigfuzzyjesus: no, he will not lift your ban02:33
Myrtti:-P02:33
bigfuzzyjesusMyrtti, i wasnt asking that02:34
Myrttibigfuzzyjesus: everyone here with voice ...02:34
Myrttioh well.02:34
Myrttihe left atleast02:34
Myrttiback to work02:34
nickrudif a ban isn't in bantracker, does it exist?02:34
nickrudit's annoying when ballard takes over bans02:34
Myrttiyes it does exist02:35
Myrttiit exists in harddrive of a silly flemish hothead02:36
* nickrud wanders away from the serious ones ;)02:36
nickrudah, that kind of ban02:36
Myrttithat kind of ban that is bantracked in ubotu02:36
Myrttiie. Anno Seveas02:36
nickrudyeah, I know who the flemish are :)02:37
nickrudor in this case the phlemish one02:37
PiciMyrtti: hah, AS02:38
nickrudan anarchic but explosively fruitful period of ubuntu irc'ing, followed by the AC era, where things are slowly becoming regularized02:40
Myrttihear, hear.02:41
* Myrtti looks at her coffee mug02:45
naliothbigfuzzyjesus has been unbanned from #ubuntu-offtopic03:19
* elky_work starts the clock and begins taking bets on how long it lasts.03:23
Myrttioh for crying out loud. Remember I told you I got my niece a HP 530?03:25
elky_workdid she break it already?03:26
Myrttifor 399€?03:26
Myrttino03:26
Myrtti...03:26
MyrttiSmart Value Promo BASE Dell Latitude™ D53003:26
MyrttiHinta€ 399,0003:26
* Myrtti headdesks03:26
elky_workeh?03:26
elky_workyou told us the wrong brand?03:26
Myrttino03:26
* elky_work is confused03:27
Myrttioh, right03:27
Myrtti399 without vat03:27
Myrttinevermind then03:27
elky_workoh, the dell is otherwise better?03:28
Myrttimagnesium struts in the casing...03:28
Myrttibetter battery life03:29
Myrttimeh.03:30
Myrttioh well.03:30
ubottuhwilde called the ops in #ubuntu ()03:33
ubottuFloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join)04:25
ubottuwols called the ops in #ubuntu (someone kick the bots)04:25
Flannelhow much fun!04:25
Myrtti04:25
* Myrtti huggles staff04:25
Pici♥ floodbots04:26
Flannelhere comes more04:26
ubottuAfterDeath called the ops in #ubuntu ()04:26
* Myrtti huggles Martinp23 04:27
* Martinp23 huggles Myrtti :)04:28
Myrttiback to LaTeX04:28
* nickrud always thinks of off color jokes when that app name comes up04:29
FlannelOnly in text though.04:29
* Myrtti spanks nickrud 04:32
Martinp23I +rR'd #ubuntu earlier.  it might be safe to try removing it04:33
naliothMartinp23: you'd be in position to do so04:34
Martinp23done04:34
Myrttijust a side note, smack me if I am annoying this week and moan about my age - I've got birthday coming04:41
PiciHappy Birthday!04:42
* Flannel gives Myrtti a birthday present of vim!04:43
* Myrtti larts Flannel with 2.5oz of GNU/Emacs Pocket Reference04:43
nickrudagain!04:45
bazhanghi bobertdos04:49
bobertdoshello, bazhang04:50
bobertdosSo, I'm just curious, what's to stop this alternate port from also being attacked?04:50
Flannelbobertdos: Its not the port being attacked04:51
Flannelbobertdos: its a reaction by your router to that text coming in on that port04:51
FlannelTheres actually no attack going on04:51
bobertdosah, interesting04:51
bobertdosSo, this exploit really WOULD be best classified as a bug, huh?04:53
Flannelbobertdos: Not really, no.  Its overzealous "protection" by your router04:54
bazhanginfinitycircuit, who is it04:54
infinitycircuitGramps and EMU_HURRICANE04:54
infinitycircuitthey may not be in the channel I didn't check04:54
FlannelNope04:54
bobertdosHehe, sounds like the closest thing the digital world can have to an allergy :p04:54
bazhanginfinitycircuit, they are not in the channel04:55
naliothklined04:55
infinitycircuityes i just checked thanks i will go on #freenode04:55
MyrttiI've missed something out04:55
bobertdosalright, I just wanted to understand the nature of the exploit, that's all, thanks04:56
Flannelbobertdos: You can find out more specifics on the interblags04:56
nickrud@btlogin06:26
ubottuth0r called the ops in #ubuntu ()07:24
FlannelHmmm, bantracker seems to have a bug for searching, comments show up in bans.07:53
Myrttihello kahrytan09:01
Myrttihow can we help you today09:01
FlannelOh dear, Ossetia spam.09:20
tritiumspam/propaganda09:21
ikoniakcman1 [n=kc@udp122313uds.hawaiiantel.net]09:24
ikoniais that also kahrytan ?09:24
gnomefreakikonia: yes its him09:25
ikoniaI thought so09:26
gnomefreakikonia: 04:25 -!- kahrytan [n=kahrytan@unaffiliated/kahrytan]09:26
gnomefreak04:25 -!-  was      : kahrytan09:26
gnomefreakcrap09:26
gnomefreakikonia: no its purple (cant recall other nick he has)09:27
gnomefreakive seen purple before09:27
ikoniapurple is the generic name for a specific windows client (cant remember which one)09:27
gnomefreakoh09:28
tritiumI thought it was from pidgin/libpurple09:28
ikoniaahhh could be09:29
Myrttiin our series of EPIC VICTORIES, part 276; a mug big enough to have a WHOLE POT of espresso, AND space for milk.09:41
ubottuflaccid called the ops in #kubuntu ()09:50
Flannelpurple is generic name for pidgin09:58
Myrttiyes? and?09:59
FlannelMyrtti: and... not you.09:59
FlannelMyrtti: unless you add purple to your coffee09:59
MyrttiPIPIPINK?!!?!?!109:59
Flannelwhich, from what I hear, makes it taste better09:59
Myrttimeh.09:59
* Myrtti is reminded of her age10:00
Myrtti27.9910:00
MyrttiI'm btw disgusted by the fact that so many people even *here* are younger than me.10:00
FlannelMyrtti: you'll get used to it.10:01
elkbuntuaww, dont be!10:01
FlannelMyrtti: just repeat after me: "Get off my lawn"10:02
Flanneland another good one is "You crazy kids"10:02
MyrttiFlannel: how about the traditional thing we Finnsh have10:02
FlannelMyrtti: get off... my complaint choir?10:03
Myrtti"when I was your age, we had to ski ten kilometers to the school. We had logs and pebbles for lunch. We had to knit our own underwear from coarse wool. all our toys were stuck between the radiator and the wall. window faced the forest. wolves howled at night. got our first mobile phones when was 19!!!1111 ungrateful little ..."10:04
Flannelup hill...10:05
Flannelboth ways10:05
Myrttiyeah10:05
jpdshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe1a1wHxTyo10:09
elkbuntuthat the python sketch?10:50
jpdselkeee: Yeah.11:00
Myrttisomeday I'll lart ZAXSES, ASUS-tek and all his other aliases so hard and so fast he'll fly to the dark side of the moon.11:08
elkbuntuhehe11:33
ubottuprince_jammys called the ops in #ubuntu ()13:12
Meztoo slow jussi0113:13
jussi01mrg13:13
jussi01h13:13
Myrttiawwww13:13
Myrttiboys fighting again?13:13
* Myrtti gives lollipops13:13
MezDave2, portapeek is apparently causing trouble in a few chans13:14
no0tichi13:14
no0tic:)13:14
no0ticis LjL around? or anybody who can control FloodBotIt1?13:14
Myrttifilo1234: how may we help you?13:14
Myrttino0tic: MIA for months13:15
no0ticMyrtti, filo1234 is an italian OP13:15
filo1234i'm with no0tic  for follow conversation about flodBotIt1  i have not more experience for it13:15
filo1234Myrtti:  my names is Filippo nice to meet you13:15
Myrttihowdy13:16
no0ticMyrtti, italian operators have problems with LjL's FloodBotIt1, is there anybody else apart from him who can help them?13:17
Mezno0tic, depends on who the bot's actually run by/what it does13:18
MyrttiI strongly doubt it - unless staff - and besides, this discussion would better fit #ubuntu-irc13:18
no0ticMyrtti, yes, sorry :) I'll move there13:18
no0ticbye all13:18
filo1234by13:18
jussi01Tallken: how can we help you?13:32
elkbuntuTallken, did you leave us in your join list accidentally?13:34
Tallkenwell... not accidently13:49
Tallkenthought I'd hang out here and be up to date on Ubuntu issues13:50
MyrttiTallken: please see /topic13:50
Myrtti!idle | Tallken13:50
ubottuTallken: Please keep in mind that this channel is for operator/abuse questions only, and we ask you to part when you have no further business here, in order to keep track of users with pending inquiries.13:50
TallkenMyrtti: I had read the topic... however it told me nothing as I wouldn't mind being kicked. *However* ubottu's explanation makes a lot more sense and gives me a good reason not to stay here, as I've no pending issues... You should put te bot's text in the topic :)13:51
Tallken*te==the13:52
Myrttithe topic gets illegible after certain length ;-)13:52
Hobbseesecond last sentence?13:52
Tallkenanyway, have a nice day :)13:54
TallkenI was trying to find out if the Ubuntu Forums bot/pubber was kicked/banned from the forums but that's in #ubuntuforums not here :P Cya guys :)13:55
MyrttiMOAR COFFEE!13:57
stdinikonia: that was, umm, random14:03
ikoniathat was an accident14:03
stdinyeah, but a random accident :p14:04
ikoniastupid mouse wheel14:04
ikoniaI'm on a touch pad and if you hover just above it it scrolls through like an up arrow14:04
ikoniaI had my hand just resting on the space bar and my thumb must have covered it14:04
jussi01hehe14:05
jussi01not everyday you see that14:05
ikoniasorry14:05
ikoniaI should disable the touch pad when not using it14:06
ikoniait's very sensitive14:06
* Myrtti rofls14:06
ikoniathe "cock" comment was to someone else when something that builds 64bit works %100 but the 32bit build of it refuses to build14:06
ikoniastupid14:06
Myrttitut-tut14:06
* ikonia is embarressed14:07
MyrttiAND YOU SHOULD14:08
jussi01ikonia: thats it, no more ops priviledges for you :P :P14:08
* Myrtti pokes ikonia with The Pink Fluffy Pen of Poking™14:08
Myrtti*SQUEEEAK*14:08
ikoniahey - it was a bad shout on my part14:08
ikoniamy hands are well up14:08
jussi01rofl14:09
* Myrtti curses and mutters "d¤#"%#¤&!/& hot coffee"14:09
ikoniato make it worse the comment is about 3 days old and it scrolled through that fast it's dragged up a comment from about 3 days old14:09
Myrttisurprisingly didn't burn my hand14:09
elkbuntuhaha14:10
jussi01ikonia: perhaps now is the time to shush... :P14:10
jussi01before you embarras yourself more :P14:10
elkbuntuikonia, cockatoos is a good excuse if you need one14:10
* ikonia is ashamed14:10
* jussi01 ROFLs14:10
jussi01elkbuntu: cockatoos... :D :P14:10
DozedOnLinuxsomething funny going on here. names changing along with username field15:06
DozedOnLinuxhmmm15:08
Myrttiexcuse me, but WTH15:08
* Myrtti jumps up and down15:16
MyrttiWAKE UP IM BORED15:16
DozedOnLinuxwhen someone has time, may you assist me please?15:22
Myrttisure15:23
Myrttiwhat's the problem?15:23
DozedOnLinuxi dont know what has went on but some staff took over a name someone i was talking to15:23
Myrttihmmm?15:23
DozedOnLinuxi can see the name was general but then to taunt me like , do you know i am who you think i am or something like that15:23
Myrttiwhen and by whom?15:24
DozedOnLinuxi have as much info as i could get , i had to close pidgin as noone would respon to me15:24
DozedOnLinuxNick: Lo (identified)15:24
DozedOnLinuxUsername: i=lorez@freenode/staff/lorez15:24
DozedOnLinuxname changed 3 or 4 times15:24
DozedOnLinuxand the name of the on ei was helping anhter 3 or 415:24
Myrttiwell...15:25
DozedOnLinuxand anohter question, i seemed to not be able to even speak in here, noone acknowledged it, so i logged out/in how do i find if name is ghosted ?15:25
DozedOnLinuxi am here just to help, i dont need people playing games,15:26
* Myrtti blinks15:26
DozedOnLinuxok, well that helps15:27
ikonia???15:27
jussi01right...15:27
christelim speaking with them in pm, but im not sure i actually understand what he is trying to ask15:29
Myrtticould someone please tell me what is going on?15:31
Myrttimeh15:31
Myrtti[Lag: 219 (??)]15:31
Myrttimeh.15:31
ubottuwols called the ops in #ubuntu (please kick moloa)15:55
* Myrtti deletes 8000 emails15:56
Myrttigmail ♥15:56
* Myrtti sighs and updates her age in geekcode and cv16:04
rushello16:28
rus16:24 -!- 103 - #ubuntu: ban *!*@holly.queeg.org [by elky!n=melissa@ubuntu/member/elkbuntu, 4366026 secs ago]16:28
ruscan someone pls unban me16:28
ruscos its been like 50 days16:29
rusand thats forever16:29
jussi01@btlogin16:29
jussi01rus: I suggest you come back in about 6 hours, when elkbuntu is likely to be awake16:31
rusok16:33
rusbye bye16:33
ubottuIn ubottu, MenZa said: !corner  is <reply> You go sit in the corner and think about what you did!16:57
* Myrtti considers !corner-#ubuntu-offtopic16:57
Garydo it Myrtti :p17:17
* Myrtti yawns19:03
MenZaCould someone PLEASE do something about AlmightyCthulhu in -offtopic? >_>19:05
PriceChildMenZa: what's he up to?19:08
MenZaPriceChild: Trolling like a madman.19:08
MyrttiI didn't know baron1984 and ac are the same...19:08
Myrttiand I doubt it too19:08
PriceChildthey are19:08
PriceChildand -offtopic needs a clean19:08
* MenZa nods.19:08
PriceChildMyrtti: is baron1984 banned in there?19:09
PriceChildMenZa: no need for that19:09
Myrttiwith a nick by ompaul19:09
PriceChildahh19:09
PriceChildMyrtti: want to invite him in here?19:09
MyrttiI'd still be careful19:09
MenZaAnyway, cheers for looking at it.19:09
MyrttiFoxconn thing...19:09
Myrttianyway19:10
PriceChildtrident523: how can we help you?19:16
PriceChildMyrtti: mute if he speaks again19:17
trident523Clicked a channel link by accident.19:17
* Myrtti gives an agonized look and runs19:19
AlmightyCthulhuok, I'll bite.....what do you people want now? Please spare the sarcasm, the condescending attitude, and the hostile behaviors.19:29
ompaul@btlogin19:30
AlmightyCthulhuI think my favorite is that "You have left the room, requested by so and so" message19:32
AlmightyCthulhuis that an Ubuntu kick?19:32
ompaulno it is a freenode remove19:32
AlmightyCthulhuwell, it fits anyway19:32
naliothAlmightyCthulhu: no.  tis a common freenode capablity19:32
AlmightyCthulhunobody can sem to call anything what it is19:32
* Myrtti sighs19:33
ompaulna, kick is a different thing, you can do that too19:33
MyrttiI hate how utterly useless google sometimes is19:33
AlmightyCthulhureplace user and strike any key19:33
ubottu_2 called the ops in #kubuntu (jd_dk)19:33
jpdsSorted.19:34
AlmightyCthulhuwhenever I have a problem is when Google is down and I have to fall back to Yahoo19:34
AlmightyCthulhuI stopped using Yahoo when I searched for Rockwell Corporation and got a page of ads about having wells installed or serviced19:35
naliothAlmightyCthulhu: i'm not entirely sure why you are here.  can you enlighten us?19:35
AlmightyCthulhuwaiting on what Myrtti and Pricechild want to trump up19:35
Myrttimeh19:36
Myrttiso...19:36
* Myrtti pokes PriceChild 19:36
* AlmightyCthulhu replaced Myrtti's stick with a taser and walks off whistling19:37
PriceChildAlmightyCthulhu: do you go by any other nicks on irc?19:37
* PriceChild is eating ice cream sorry19:37
naliothAlmightyCthulhu: why would they "trump up" anything?19:38
AlmightyCthulhuno, I really don't19:38
AlmightyCthulhuunless it's a backup or something like AlmightyChtulhu``19:38
AlmightyCthulhuso if this is about idling, I probably just fell asleep and had a ghost19:39
PriceChildAlmightyCthulhu: baron1984?19:39
AlmightyCthulhuwho is that?19:39
ompaulwhy say who19:40
* Myrtti notes logs in Google19:40
Myrttihttp://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/07/27/%23ubuntu-ops.txt19:40
ompaul[12:17] <bazhang> AlmightyCthulhu, what name were you banned under? this one or baron198419:40
ompaul[12:17] <AlmightyCthulhu> baron198419:40
ompaulban evasion and not remembering the past is a little strange19:41
AlmightyCthulhuI just registered this name19:41
ompaulwrong19:41
AlmightyCthulhuit's possible someone was using it and didn't register19:41
ompaul-NickServ- Registered : Jun 05 00:14:24 2008 (9 weeks, 4 days, 18:24:45 ago)19:41
MyrttiI'm not fully clear what happens on that log19:41
ompaulstop it19:41
ompaulMyrtti, I think we remove the ban on that day19:42
ompaulAlmightyCthulhu, so why exactly are you here?19:42
* Myrtti sighs, gets her classes and starts to fiddle with lyx19:42
AlmightyCthulhuwell, Comcast proxies to save money, kind of like AOL used to19:42
Myrttihe was accused trolling in -ot, and then accused of ban evasion of Baron198419:43
PriceChildompaul: i invited him19:43
ompaulPriceChild, in that case, all yours19:43
PriceChildAlmightyCthulhu: so you remember you using the nick now?19:44
AlmightyCthulhuplay the card all you want, I'll power cycle the modem19:44
AlmightyCthulhuyou'll just be banning everyone else in Indiana19:44
ompaulAlmightyCthulhu, that is quite a threat19:44
AlmightyCthulhuI'll do it19:44
MyrttiAlmightyCthulhu: wouldn't you want the issue to be solved rather than evading it ad nauseatum?19:44
AlmightyCthulhuwhy not?19:44
ompaulnalioth, I wish to complain about AlmightyCthulhu ban avoiding19:44
AlmightyCthulhuit's you guys that keep doing that19:45
naliothAlmightyCthulhu: you will?19:45
AlmightyCthulhuso, more or less all broadband users in Indiana19:45
AlmightyCthulhuor me19:45
AlmightyCthulhuI'm really not so bad19:45
ompaulAlmightyCthulhu, na19:45
naliothAlmightyCthulhu: how long do you want your kline for?19:46
AlmightyCthulhuit's a pain to get the modem offlined and back up with a new IP19:46
naliothi can save you the trouble, AlmightyCthulhu19:46
AlmightyCthulhuyou're all very hostile19:47
AlmightyCthulhuand rude19:47
ompaulAlmightyCthulhu, and you are?19:47
AlmightyCthulhunice person usually19:47
ompaulohh I forgot ban evading19:47
ompauli.e. outside the social norms for irc19:47
AlmightyCthulhuI only got banned because an op was being an ass19:47
Mez@btlogin19:47
AlmightyCthulhujust like what is happening here19:47
Myrttiso now you're going to be equally ass making everyone look fools19:47
ompaulhow to win friends and influence people19:47
AlmightyCthulhuyou don't win friends here, they lock on to you and are quite malicious19:48
AlmightyCthulhuthere's several people I like to talk to here, it just gets ruined by a bad op or two19:48
MezAlmightyCthulhu, who are you accusing of being a bad op?19:49
AlmightyCthulhuI know, I know, I don't kiss enough ass19:49
AlmightyCthulhuguilty19:49
AlmightyCthulhuthe fastest way to piss people off is refusing to lie19:49
ompaulwrong19:49
AlmightyCthulhuthen when you do lie19:49
PriceChildlets all calm down a bit19:49
AlmightyCthulhuthat pisses people off worse19:50
PriceChildAlmightyCthulhu: so you remember using the nick now?19:50
AlmightyCthulhusee, I'm being corralled19:50
AlmightyCthulhuthats a good tactic19:50
PriceChildAlmightyCthulhu: by 'all', i meant everyone.19:50
AlmightyCthulhuI am calm, I'm calmly saying you're trying to wrap this up, ban me, and be the good guy19:51
PriceChildit would be a lot easier for us to wrap up, and all move on if we answered questions instead of threats and pessimistic generalisations19:52
AlmightyCthulhuthen you give me a mailing list where you're all the same people, but you pretend not to be there19:52
AlmightyCthulhubecause it's not IRC, and you're different pretend people on the forum too19:52
AlmightyCthulhumakes a lot of sense19:53
PriceChildi'm the only forums moderator here and i have not had any involvement in your case over there19:53
PriceChildAlmightyCthulhu: There seem to be two bans placed on you in -offtopic now. Whatever nick you use, we would rather you didn't join -offtopic. If you're banned by another alias in another channel, same goes there.19:55
AlmightyCthulhuUbuntu works a lot like Scientology, they want conformity19:55
AlmightyCthulhuand they wave the CoC around like a doctrine19:55
ompaulfilo1234, can we help you?19:55
AlmightyCthulhugee, how did I know that would happen?19:56
PriceChildAlmightyCthulhu: If you're not willing to do anything more than threaten or slander(?) then I don't think we should continue any further.19:56
Mezfilo1234, hey, wanna talk in #ubuntu-irc instead, lil busy in here right now19:56
AlmightyCthulhuI haven't done anything except contest an unfair ban19:56
PriceChildAlmightyCthulhu: that's the problem19:56
filo1234ompaul:  so i'm an italian ubuntu irc operator i cannot stay here?19:56
AlmightyCthulhuand nobody will listen, and if I do get a reply, it's mindly shitty19:56
filo1234Mez:  i have send a mail to LjL19:56
AlmightyCthulhuand in the most caustic tone you can take and still be politically correct19:57
Mezfilo1234, #ubuntu-irc is the best place for international ops to be honest.19:57
filo1234ok19:57
AlmightyCthulhuI should just post all those emails I got from your mods19:58
AlmightyCthulhuthat should be interesting19:58
Myrttiyou all need hugs19:58
AlmightyCthulhuabout the only thing you people don't do is start insulting people's mothers19:58
PriceChildAlmightyCthulhu: sounds like a plan. have fun19:59
MyrttiI'm fairly sure that if everyone got hugs and smiles, this discussion would be happier and things wouldn't be misunderstanded by purpose19:59
Myrttibecause I see lots of negativeness and almost malicious intents and I'm sure that this is not how you want things to be20:00
* Mez steals laku to hug20:01
AlmightyCthulhuOK Myrtti, can you riddle me one thing then?20:01
MyrttiAlmightyCthulhu: I can try, hold on, I'll get my glasses20:02
AlmightyCthulhuthe whole ban evasion thing, just ignore that for the purposes of this question20:02
AlmightyCthulhuWhat have I done that has been so terrible?20:02
AlmightyCthulhuor inexcusable maybe?20:03
PriceChildAlmightyCthulhu: You've had your say. Please come back another time and maybe you'll listen to ours.20:03
AlmightyCthulhuYou don't ban people for a day or a few days, or a week, to cool down20:03
AlmightyCthulhuyou just all out attack20:03
MezAlmightyCthulhu, can you tell me whether you've just seen PriceChild's last message?20:04
AlmightyCthulhuhe's being intentionally provoking20:04
AlmightyCthulhuI could say a few things, but he's ignorant, so why?20:05
Myrttimeh20:05
MezAlmightyCthulhu, actually, no, he's given you plenty of chances to state your case, to calm down. But you've just been on the all out offensive.20:05
AlmightyCthulhuI have been? I get banned indefinitely in like May or June20:05
AlmightyCthulhuwith no warning20:05
ompaulAlmightyCthulhu, we are not here for your ridicule, threats and so forth20:05
AlmightyCthulhuthat's not right20:05
MyrttiAlmightyCthulhu: it's the offensiveness that puts me off personally. The last time you were here, you accused everyone and made threats20:05
AlmightyCthulhuit just isn;t20:05
ompaulAlmightyCthulhu, we are not here for that20:06
MyrttiAlmightyCthulhu: your behaviour? no it isn't20:06
MezAlmightyCthulhu, the logs say that you were banned, bought in here, tried to have explaiuned what the issue was, and you went on the offence then20:06
AlmightyCthulhunot even by your own biased code of conduct20:06
AlmightyCthulhuyou are treating people wrong20:06
ompaulmeh20:06
ikoniastand by on all other channels20:07
ompaulno20:07
MyrttiI'm not happy but I'm not going to waste my breath on this either20:07
PriceChildi don't think he's anything to worry about20:07
Myrttiit's his blog I'm afraid of20:07
Myrttithis is not good pr to either20:07
PriceChildwell then we'll all have to start changing our attitudes.20:07
* Myrtti shrugs, goes to learn LyX20:07
MyrttiYOU ALL NEED MORE HUGS20:08
Myrttiand I need more coffee20:08
MenZaCan't have enough hugs.20:08
* Myrtti jumps20:08
Myrttieek, in which crack of the wall were you hiding?!20:09
Myrtti(and holy hell I just jumped IRL getting a sms)20:09
* MenZa shuffles back into his corner.20:10
PriceChildI get involved and then I remove someone :(20:10
ompaulPriceChild, pm20:10
PriceChildsure20:10
* Myrtti points the /topic to MenZa 20:12
Myrttisowwy20:12
* MenZa nods20:12
* MenZa leaps out the window20:12
PriceChildbtw, while I think about it...20:13
jussi01poor menza - hope he had a safe landing20:13
PriceChilddon't go watching -ot's join list for comcast addresses.20:13
PriceChildIf he rejoins and plays nice then we have no problem20:14
PriceChildIf he rejoins and stands out... he'll be standing out20:14
Myrttishould I remove the mute?20:15
ompaulhe is there20:15
ompaulpfft don't know20:15
Myrtti22:13  * MenZa falls into #ubuntu-offtopic, rolls, unscatched.20:15
Myrtti22:13  * MenZa waves to Myrtti up above.20:15
Mezwhere?20:15
PriceChildMyrtti: i'd leave them in20:15
Myrttihahahah20:15
PriceChildMyrtti: but removes any others that are stale20:15
Myrttiincl. Baron1984?20:15
ompaulnot with him sitting there20:16
Mezhuh @ Menza thing?20:16
Mez@btlogin20:16
MyrttiMez: silly20:17
MyrttiMenZa is funny :-D20:18
Mezhttp://www.myextralife.com/strips/08-11-2008.jpg20:21
ompaulhahahaha20:23
ompaulsad20:23
ompaulI unsubscribed from about 20 mailing lists last night20:26
ompaultoo much information20:26
MyrttiI subscribed to four20:26
MyrttiI ignore them all gracefully20:26
* Mez eventually reads the sutff on the mailing lists20:26
Myrttioh, and I deleted 9107 emails20:28
Mezlol20:28
Mezhttp://img244.imageshack.us/img244/8837/bushfunny1la2.jpg20:28
* Mez deleted 10000 (ish) emails..20:28
Myrttibeen collecting Launchpad Answers mail20:28
Mez:)20:28
* Myrtti grins http://englishrussia.com/images/georgia.jpg20:29
Myrttiawww, it's been taken off20:29
Myrttino, just laggig20:29
Mezhow long has bash.org been down now20:42
MyrttiI probably should have eaten something else today than bread and raspberry jelly20:56
* Myrtti glares at lag20:58
Myrttimeh.20:58
jussi01jelly? are you using american english or do you mean the wobbly stuff?21:06
Flanneljelly, jam, preserves, etc21:08
Myrttiwhatever21:08
Myrttijussi01: DAMN YOU21:08
Myrttiyou got me mixed up with all your ...21:08
MyrttiDAMN YOU21:08
Flannelall his wobbles21:10
jussi01heheh21:10
Myrttihttp://segphault.jaiku.com/presence/42287179 <-- jussi0121:10
jussi01there is a qt 4.5? or is that a joke?21:11
stdinlatest Qt is 4.4.121:12
Myrttiare you seriously asking *ME*?21:13
Myrtti:-þ21:13
jussi01heheh21:13
Flanneljussi01: emacs doesn't use QT, why would Myrtti know? ;)21:13
Myrtti21:13
* Myrtti goes to make a mozzarella salad21:16
jussi01mozzerella -nom nom21:16
Flannelmozilla salad?21:16
ompaulFlannel, with icecat on top21:17
ompaulFlannel, try to weasel your way out of that21:17
Flannelhaha, ompaul, you're so punny!21:18
ompaulyou might get away on the wing of a dove - but very unlikely21:18
jussi01worse than my dad...21:18
ompaulI has hardwired pun making device21:19
* Flannel hates the misuse of decimate.21:21
ompaulkilling one in 10?21:21
ompaulor not21:22
ompaulthe old or new  version?21:22
* ompaul has to take care of some business21:22
Myrttibinary one21:22
Flannelompaul: removing one in ten is the proper usage.  removing nine is imporper21:22
Myrttijussi01: you should've been there at LRL21:22
Myrttiawful, AWFUL man.21:22
FlannelD = X*0.9, D != X*0.121:22
* Myrtti frowns at lyx2html21:55
Christhai guize21:58
Myrttihello, how may we help you?21:58
Christyou could always send me some money.21:59
Myrttia-ha21:59
ChristoO21:59
Myrttiso why did you come here?21:59
Christ'cause it looked like 3 tonnes of fun.22:00
* Myrtti points at topic22:00
* Christ looks away22:00
Myrtti!idle | Christ22:01
ubottuChrist: Please keep in mind that this channel is for operator/abuse questions only, and we ask you to part when you have no further business here, in order to keep track of users with pending inquiries.22:01
Christ!idle | Myritti22:01
ubottuMyritti: Please keep in mind that this channel is for operator/abuse questions only, and we ask you to part when you have no further business here, in order to keep track of users with pending inquiries.22:01
MyrttiChrist: so did you actually have any business here or are you just wasting my time?22:02
Christyour on IRC, it's not like there's anything constructive to do.22:02
ChristNO U22:03
* Myrtti yawns22:04
ikoniacambridge ntl has a lot to answer for22:04
naliothy'all note the ident.22:05
naliothit is used regularly by this person22:06
Myrttiident or realname?22:06
naliothn=Blargh22:06
Myrttiok22:06
nalioththe real name changes22:06
Myrttihis realname was NO U22:06
Myrttithat's why I wondered22:07
naliothsome people have nothing better to do than troll22:07
MyrttiI can think of several better ways to waste time...22:09
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elkbuntunalioth, did you see the article about trolling the other week?22:25
ompaulelkbuntu, do show22:29
ompaulyours or someone elses?22:29
elkbuntuhttp://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/03/magazine/03trolls-t.html?_r=1&oref=slogin22:29
elkbuntunytimes22:29
ompaulBruce Schneier's tears can burn holes through an OpenBSD firewall. Lucky for us, Bruce Schneier never cries.22:29
jussi01and to summarise the article: They are liberal in what they do and conservative in what they construe as acceptable behavior from others. You, the troll says, are not worthy of my understanding; I, therefore, will do everything I can to confound you.22:55
* mneptok farts delicately22:58
ompaulmneptok, nothing about you is delicate22:58
* ompaul packages mneptok using debian rules22:58
tonyyarussoI started reading that, but then saw it was 7 pages long..22:58
ompaulnow that has to hurt :)22:58
mneptoktonyyarusso: it was written by trolls, duh. ;)22:59
* tonyyarusso is mad gmail's down22:59
mneptokas is GTalk22:59
Myrttimneptok: when have you last checked are you within hugging proximity of me?22:59
naliothtonyyarusso: it's actually only one page ( hit "Print Article" ) with lots and lots of adverts22:59
mneptokMyrtti: is Tokyo in proximity?22:59
tonyyarussonalioth: heh, nice22:59
jussi01gmail wfm here22:59
Myrttimneptok: sadly no22:59
mneptokMyrtti: well, "ohaiyo gozaimasu!"23:00
tonyyarussojussi01: apparently only some accounts.  Got a 50/50 reply in -ot as well23:00
Myrttiohaiyo23:00
jussi01heh23:00
* mneptok tootles off to breakfast23:04
ompaulmneptok, have a toasted something for me23:05
ompaulmneptok, where are you on the planet at this time?23:05
naliothompaul: he just rolled out of bed, dontchaknow23:05
ompaulmy guess is far away from here at any rate23:05
* nalioth wishes he could sleep til 170023:05
jussi01hehe23:06
* Myrtti huggles mneptok 23:33
jussi01nini all23:42
Myrttinini jussi0123:44
jpdsSomeone please watch |Blade| in #ubuntu. I've just /at'ed 30 him.23:58
* jpds => bed.23:58

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