[00:35] Tallken: this is generally not considered to be a safe place to idle. we get some pretty fired up people come in here at times, and they like to take it out on this entire channel. they dont discriminate 'evil ops' from innocent onlookers [00:37] darkbytez: how can we help you? [00:37] just trying the irc client on ubuntu, thanks [00:38] weird place to try it in [00:38] well,i think so [00:39] i need to learn a little bit more about irc chatting [00:40] oh - for that I'd suggest #ubuntu-offtopic or some other less formal channel than this [00:41] elky_work, sorry? what do you mean? my idle times here (IRC) aren't usually bigger than 2h or so [00:42] i will go there, where i can find info about the ATI drivers and ubuntu? [00:43] anyway, leaving [00:43] cya later! [00:43] i'm dissapointed about ATI and open source drivers [00:45] I guess #ubuntu might be the correct starting point on that, if you've got spesific problems with the drivers and ubuntu [00:46] ok, thanks a lot [00:46] AlmightyCthulhu called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic () [00:46] ikonia: oh, you finally got sick of limcore? excellent. [00:48] * Mez yawns [00:51] he's been ranting in -bugs again too. [00:52] [09:34] 09:14:21> howevet, typical user that wants to find a way to extract his archive, will stop reading after he finds option called "extract" [00:52] [09:34] 09:14:47> and when it doesn't work they will bring up the man page again and read 4 lines down [00:52] [09:34] 09:14:52> (what I did) [00:52] [09:34] 09:15:16> I like when software do not waste my time like this [00:52] [09:34] 09:15:41> if user did things according to first part manual, and it did not work, then this is not intuitive at all [00:52] [09:34] 09:15:46> but, feel free to edit the man page how you want, submit a patch to BOTH the upstream and Ubuntu and then wait for acceptance [00:52] [09:34] 09:16:14> well, if ubuntu developers overall dont see problem which I describe here, then I dont think ubuntu tries to be user friendly after all [00:52] yes, because clearly, ubuntu developers are writing everything in existance, including manpages. I thought he'd been around enough to get more clue. [00:53] darkbytez: did you have any other questions? [00:55] Hobbsee: he did apparently promise that "the persistant come in - rant / name call/ disrupt had to stop", and apparently isn't keeping that promise [00:56] stdin: do we have a log of that? [00:56] @comment 3426 [00:56] stdin: i'm happy to boot him from the channel, as he's really not being productive... [00:56] stdin: 'Aug 10 2008 18:11:01 ikonia: a known issue user, persistantly ranting has been warned MANY times, he does this in many channels, however #ubuntu should not suffer beecause of this users attitude/actions\r\n' [00:56] stdin: Aug 10 2008 18:43:27 ikonia: positive pm with limcore (although based on past warnings/conversations could be faking it) agreed to contibute and discuss issues rather than come in name calling issues/ubuntu/ranting/etc. Ban lifted but he had a pretty indepth discussion that the persistant come in - rant / name call/ disrupt had to stop [00:56] see the last comment ^ [00:57] no thanks Myrtti [00:57] ikonia: can you confirm that with him for both #ubuntu *and* #ubuntu-bugs *and* ubuntu-quality? [00:57] darkbytez, please see /topic then [01:36] In #kubuntu-devel, apachelogger said: ubottu: insanity is as well! still she outsmarts you! [01:36] In #kubuntu-devel, apachelogger said: ubottu: insanity is as well! still she outsmarts you! === vorian is now known as vorian_ [02:08] fyi, I'm on vacation this week, so I may not be around much. [02:10] oo, vacation [02:10] think i could get unbanned from offtopic [02:10] ? [02:15] elkbuntu, do you think i could get unbanned from #ubuntu-offtopic [02:16] tonyyarusso^ [02:16] LjL^ [02:16] are you in such a great hurry you're going to ping everyone [02:17] I don't think entry to -offtopic is so urgent... [02:17] shouldn't be, anyway [02:17] sorry, i just wanted to ask about it, before i forget [02:18] would you happen to remember why you were banned originally? [02:18] for flooding [02:19] somewhere around a year ago [02:19] maybe less, maybe more [02:19] anyway, Can i be "official IRC helper " :D ? [02:20] orgthingy: I don't think such titles are given [02:20] Myrtti : can we make one :D ? [02:21] u created a whole new distro.. im pretty sure u can make such a title [02:21] orgthingy: I'm not in such a humorous mood right now [02:21] to even discuss this [02:21] group of trusted people that can help in irc [02:21] Myrtti : im pretty serious about it [02:21] but, umm, ok.. [02:21] orgthingy: trusted people dont need special titles for their egos [02:21] we already have those - and they don't get any special titles [02:21] aha, i see, no special titles [02:22] so about being unbanned [02:23] bigfuzzyjesus: I'm not going to make such a decision since the bantracker shows nothing on you [02:23] he predates the bantracker. [02:24] the council will discuss. it will not have judgement immediately. please come back tomorrow [02:24] and since bantracker doesn't show a thing about you, your case will have to be reviewed better and with time [02:24] okay [02:25] is seveas still an op? [02:25] oh, he knows ops [02:25] thats bad [02:25] :( [02:25] orgthingy: do you have any other business here? [02:26] Myrtti : ah, cant i stay :'( ? [02:26] i like discussions here [02:26] nope [02:26] see /topic [02:26] umm, ok [02:27] Ubums, maybe? [02:28] Ubuds I meant. [02:28] nickrud: hmm? [02:28] orthingy ^^ [02:30] just a friendly reminder - please check what bans you've got on #ubuntu and clear out unneeded ones [02:33] Pici, are you an op? [02:33] bigfuzzyjesus: yes [02:33] Pici, oh wow, i did not know that [02:33] bigfuzzyjesus: no, he will not lift your ban [02:33] :-P [02:34] Myrtti, i wasnt asking that [02:34] bigfuzzyjesus: everyone here with voice ... [02:34] oh well. [02:34] he left atleast [02:34] back to work [02:34] if a ban isn't in bantracker, does it exist? [02:34] it's annoying when ballard takes over bans [02:35] yes it does exist [02:36] it exists in harddrive of a silly flemish hothead [02:36] * nickrud wanders away from the serious ones ;) [02:36] ah, that kind of ban [02:36] that kind of ban that is bantracked in ubotu [02:36] ie. Anno Seveas [02:37] yeah, I know who the flemish are :) [02:37] or in this case the phlemish one [02:38] Myrtti: hah, AS [02:40] an anarchic but explosively fruitful period of ubuntu irc'ing, followed by the AC era, where things are slowly becoming regularized [02:41] hear, hear. [02:45] * Myrtti looks at her coffee mug [03:19] bigfuzzyjesus has been unbanned from #ubuntu-offtopic [03:23] * elky_work starts the clock and begins taking bets on how long it lasts. [03:25] oh for crying out loud. Remember I told you I got my niece a HP 530? [03:26] did she break it already? [03:26] for 399€? [03:26] no [03:26] ... [03:26] Smart Value Promo BASE Dell Latitude™ D530 [03:26] Hinta€ 399,00 [03:26] * Myrtti headdesks [03:26] eh? [03:26] you told us the wrong brand? [03:26] no [03:27] * elky_work is confused [03:27] oh, right [03:27] 399 without vat [03:27] nevermind then [03:28] oh, the dell is otherwise better? [03:28] magnesium struts in the casing... [03:29] better battery life [03:30] meh. [03:30] oh well. [03:33] hwilde called the ops in #ubuntu () [04:25] FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join) [04:25] wols called the ops in #ubuntu (someone kick the bots) [04:25] how much fun! [04:25] ♥ [04:25] * Myrtti huggles staff [04:26] ♥ floodbots [04:26] here comes more [04:26] AfterDeath called the ops in #ubuntu () [04:27] * Myrtti huggles Martinp23 [04:28] * Martinp23 huggles Myrtti :) [04:28] back to LaTeX [04:29] * nickrud always thinks of off color jokes when that app name comes up [04:29] Only in text though. [04:32] * Myrtti spanks nickrud [04:33] I +rR'd #ubuntu earlier. it might be safe to try removing it [04:34] Martinp23: you'd be in position to do so [04:34] done [04:41] just a side note, smack me if I am annoying this week and moan about my age - I've got birthday coming [04:42] Happy Birthday! [04:43] * Flannel gives Myrtti a birthday present of vim! [04:43] * Myrtti larts Flannel with 2.5oz of GNU/Emacs Pocket Reference [04:45] again! [04:49] hi bobertdos [04:50] hello, bazhang [04:50] So, I'm just curious, what's to stop this alternate port from also being attacked? [04:51] bobertdos: Its not the port being attacked [04:51] bobertdos: its a reaction by your router to that text coming in on that port [04:51] Theres actually no attack going on [04:51] ah, interesting [04:53] So, this exploit really WOULD be best classified as a bug, huh? [04:54] bobertdos: Not really, no. Its overzealous "protection" by your router [04:54] infinitycircuit, who is it [04:54] Gramps and EMU_HURRICANE [04:54] they may not be in the channel I didn't check [04:54] Nope [04:54] Hehe, sounds like the closest thing the digital world can have to an allergy :p [04:55] infinitycircuit, they are not in the channel [04:55] klined [04:55] yes i just checked thanks i will go on #freenode [04:55] I've missed something out [04:56] alright, I just wanted to understand the nature of the exploit, that's all, thanks [04:56] bobertdos: You can find out more specifics on the interblags [06:26] @btlogin [07:24] th0r called the ops in #ubuntu () [07:53] Hmmm, bantracker seems to have a bug for searching, comments show up in bans. [09:01] hello kahrytan [09:01] how can we help you today [09:20] Oh dear, Ossetia spam. [09:21] spam/propaganda [09:24] kcman1 [n=kc@udp122313uds.hawaiiantel.net] [09:24] is that also kahrytan ? [09:25] ikonia: yes its him [09:26] I thought so [09:26] ikonia: 04:25 -!- kahrytan [n=kahrytan@unaffiliated/kahrytan] [09:26] 04:25 -!- was : kahrytan [09:26] crap [09:27] ikonia: no its purple (cant recall other nick he has) [09:27] ive seen purple before [09:27] purple is the generic name for a specific windows client (cant remember which one) [09:28] oh [09:28] I thought it was from pidgin/libpurple [09:29] ahhh could be [09:41] in our series of EPIC VICTORIES, part 276; a mug big enough to have a WHOLE POT of espresso, AND space for milk. [09:50] flaccid called the ops in #kubuntu () [09:58] purple is generic name for pidgin [09:59] yes? and? [09:59] Myrtti: and... not you. [09:59] Myrtti: unless you add purple to your coffee [09:59] PIPIPINK?!!?!?!1 [09:59] which, from what I hear, makes it taste better [09:59] meh. [10:00] * Myrtti is reminded of her age [10:00] 27.99 [10:00] I'm btw disgusted by the fact that so many people even *here* are younger than me. [10:01] Myrtti: you'll get used to it. [10:01] aww, dont be! [10:02] Myrtti: just repeat after me: "Get off my lawn" [10:02] and another good one is "You crazy kids" [10:02] Flannel: how about the traditional thing we Finnsh have [10:03] Myrtti: get off... my complaint choir? [10:04] "when I was your age, we had to ski ten kilometers to the school. We had logs and pebbles for lunch. We had to knit our own underwear from coarse wool. all our toys were stuck between the radiator and the wall. window faced the forest. wolves howled at night. got our first mobile phones when was 19!!!1111 ungrateful little ..." [10:05] up hill... [10:05] both ways [10:05] yeah [10:09] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe1a1wHxTyo [10:50] that the python sketch? [11:00] elkeee: Yeah. [11:08] someday I'll lart ZAXSES, ASUS-tek and all his other aliases so hard and so fast he'll fly to the dark side of the moon. [11:33] hehe [13:12] prince_jammys called the ops in #ubuntu () [13:13] too slow jussi01 [13:13] mrg [13:13] h [13:13] awwww [13:13] boys fighting again? [13:13] * Myrtti gives lollipops [13:14] Dave2, portapeek is apparently causing trouble in a few chans [13:14] hi [13:14] :) [13:14] is LjL around? or anybody who can control FloodBotIt1? [13:14] filo1234: how may we help you? [13:15] no0tic: MIA for months [13:15] Myrtti, filo1234 is an italian OP [13:15] i'm with no0tic for follow conversation about flodBotIt1 i have not more experience for it [13:15] Myrtti: my names is Filippo nice to meet you [13:16] howdy [13:17] Myrtti, italian operators have problems with LjL's FloodBotIt1, is there anybody else apart from him who can help them? [13:18] no0tic, depends on who the bot's actually run by/what it does [13:18] I strongly doubt it - unless staff - and besides, this discussion would better fit #ubuntu-irc [13:18] Myrtti, yes, sorry :) I'll move there [13:18] bye all [13:18] by [13:32] Tallken: how can we help you? [13:34] Tallken, did you leave us in your join list accidentally? [13:49] well... not accidently [13:50] thought I'd hang out here and be up to date on Ubuntu issues [13:50] Tallken: please see /topic [13:50] !idle | Tallken [13:50] Tallken: Please keep in mind that this channel is for operator/abuse questions only, and we ask you to part when you have no further business here, in order to keep track of users with pending inquiries. [13:51] Myrtti: I had read the topic... however it told me nothing as I wouldn't mind being kicked. *However* ubottu's explanation makes a lot more sense and gives me a good reason not to stay here, as I've no pending issues... You should put te bot's text in the topic :) [13:52] *te==the [13:52] the topic gets illegible after certain length ;-) [13:52] second last sentence? [13:54] anyway, have a nice day :) [13:55] I was trying to find out if the Ubuntu Forums bot/pubber was kicked/banned from the forums but that's in #ubuntuforums not here :P Cya guys :) [13:57] MOAR COFFEE! [14:03] ikonia: that was, umm, random [14:03] that was an accident [14:04] yeah, but a random accident :p [14:04] stupid mouse wheel [14:04] I'm on a touch pad and if you hover just above it it scrolls through like an up arrow [14:04] I had my hand just resting on the space bar and my thumb must have covered it [14:05] hehe [14:05] not everyday you see that [14:05] sorry [14:06] I should disable the touch pad when not using it [14:06] it's very sensitive [14:06] * Myrtti rofls [14:06] the "cock" comment was to someone else when something that builds 64bit works %100 but the 32bit build of it refuses to build [14:06] stupid [14:06] tut-tut [14:07] * ikonia is embarressed [14:08] AND YOU SHOULD [14:08] ikonia: thats it, no more ops priviledges for you :P :P [14:08] * Myrtti pokes ikonia with The Pink Fluffy Pen of Poking™ [14:08] *SQUEEEAK* [14:08] hey - it was a bad shout on my part [14:08] my hands are well up [14:09] rofl [14:09] * Myrtti curses and mutters "d¤#"%#¤&!/& hot coffee" [14:09] to make it worse the comment is about 3 days old and it scrolled through that fast it's dragged up a comment from about 3 days old [14:09] surprisingly didn't burn my hand [14:10] haha [14:10] ikonia: perhaps now is the time to shush... :P [14:10] before you embarras yourself more :P [14:10] ikonia, cockatoos is a good excuse if you need one [14:10] * ikonia is ashamed [14:10] * jussi01 ROFLs [14:10] elkbuntu: cockatoos... :D :P [15:06] something funny going on here. names changing along with username field [15:08] hmmm [15:08] excuse me, but WTH [15:16] * Myrtti jumps up and down [15:16] WAKE UP IM BORED [15:22] when someone has time, may you assist me please? [15:23] sure [15:23] what's the problem? [15:23] i dont know what has went on but some staff took over a name someone i was talking to [15:23] hmmm? [15:23] i can see the name was general but then to taunt me like , do you know i am who you think i am or something like that [15:24] when and by whom? [15:24] i have as much info as i could get , i had to close pidgin as noone would respon to me [15:24] Nick: Lo (identified) [15:24] Username: i=lorez@freenode/staff/lorez [15:24] name changed 3 or 4 times [15:24] and the name of the on ei was helping anhter 3 or 4 [15:25] well... [15:25] and anohter question, i seemed to not be able to even speak in here, noone acknowledged it, so i logged out/in how do i find if name is ghosted ? [15:26] i am here just to help, i dont need people playing games, [15:26] * Myrtti blinks [15:27] ok, well that helps [15:27] ??? [15:27] right... [15:29] im speaking with them in pm, but im not sure i actually understand what he is trying to ask [15:31] could someone please tell me what is going on? [15:31] meh [15:31] [Lag: 219 (??)] [15:31] meh. [15:55] wols called the ops in #ubuntu (please kick moloa) [15:56] * Myrtti deletes 8000 emails [15:56] gmail ♥ [16:04] * Myrtti sighs and updates her age in geekcode and cv [16:28] hello [16:28] 16:24 -!- 103 - #ubuntu: ban *!*@holly.queeg.org [by elky!n=melissa@ubuntu/member/elkbuntu, 4366026 secs ago] [16:28] can someone pls unban me [16:29] cos its been like 50 days [16:29] and thats forever [16:29] @btlogin [16:31] rus: I suggest you come back in about 6 hours, when elkbuntu is likely to be awake [16:33] ok [16:33] bye bye [16:57] In ubottu, MenZa said: !corner is You go sit in the corner and think about what you did! [16:57] * Myrtti considers !corner-#ubuntu-offtopic [17:17] do it Myrtti :p [19:03] * Myrtti yawns [19:05] Could someone PLEASE do something about AlmightyCthulhu in -offtopic? >_> [19:08] MenZa: what's he up to? [19:08] PriceChild: Trolling like a madman. [19:08] I didn't know baron1984 and ac are the same... [19:08] and I doubt it too [19:08] they are [19:08] and -offtopic needs a clean [19:08] * MenZa nods. [19:09] Myrtti: is baron1984 banned in there? [19:09] MenZa: no need for that [19:09] with a nick by ompaul [19:09] ahh [19:09] Myrtti: want to invite him in here? [19:09] I'd still be careful [19:09] Anyway, cheers for looking at it. [19:09] Foxconn thing... [19:10] anyway [19:16] trident523: how can we help you? [19:17] Myrtti: mute if he speaks again [19:17] Clicked a channel link by accident. [19:19] * Myrtti gives an agonized look and runs [19:29] ok, I'll bite.....what do you people want now? Please spare the sarcasm, the condescending attitude, and the hostile behaviors. [19:30] @btlogin [19:32] I think my favorite is that "You have left the room, requested by so and so" message [19:32] is that an Ubuntu kick? [19:32] no it is a freenode remove [19:32] well, it fits anyway [19:32] AlmightyCthulhu: no. tis a common freenode capablity [19:32] nobody can sem to call anything what it is [19:33] * Myrtti sighs [19:33] na, kick is a different thing, you can do that too [19:33] I hate how utterly useless google sometimes is [19:33] replace user and strike any key [19:33] _2 called the ops in #kubuntu (jd_dk) [19:34] Sorted. [19:34] whenever I have a problem is when Google is down and I have to fall back to Yahoo [19:35] I stopped using Yahoo when I searched for Rockwell Corporation and got a page of ads about having wells installed or serviced [19:35] AlmightyCthulhu: i'm not entirely sure why you are here. can you enlighten us? [19:35] waiting on what Myrtti and Pricechild want to trump up [19:36] meh [19:36] so... [19:36] * Myrtti pokes PriceChild [19:37] * AlmightyCthulhu replaced Myrtti's stick with a taser and walks off whistling [19:37] AlmightyCthulhu: do you go by any other nicks on irc? [19:37] * PriceChild is eating ice cream sorry [19:38] AlmightyCthulhu: why would they "trump up" anything? [19:38] no, I really don't [19:38] unless it's a backup or something like AlmightyChtulhu`` [19:39] so if this is about idling, I probably just fell asleep and had a ghost [19:39] AlmightyCthulhu: baron1984? [19:39] who is that? [19:40] why say who [19:40] * Myrtti notes logs in Google [19:40] http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/07/27/%23ubuntu-ops.txt [19:40] [12:17] AlmightyCthulhu, what name were you banned under? this one or baron1984 [19:40] [12:17] baron1984 [19:41] ban evasion and not remembering the past is a little strange [19:41] I just registered this name [19:41] wrong [19:41] it's possible someone was using it and didn't register [19:41] -NickServ- Registered : Jun 05 00:14:24 2008 (9 weeks, 4 days, 18:24:45 ago) [19:41] I'm not fully clear what happens on that log [19:41] stop it [19:42] Myrtti, I think we remove the ban on that day [19:42] AlmightyCthulhu, so why exactly are you here? [19:42] * Myrtti sighs, gets her classes and starts to fiddle with lyx [19:42] well, Comcast proxies to save money, kind of like AOL used to [19:43] he was accused trolling in -ot, and then accused of ban evasion of Baron1984 [19:43] ompaul: i invited him [19:43] PriceChild, in that case, all yours [19:44] AlmightyCthulhu: so you remember you using the nick now? [19:44] play the card all you want, I'll power cycle the modem [19:44] you'll just be banning everyone else in Indiana [19:44] AlmightyCthulhu, that is quite a threat [19:44] I'll do it [19:44] AlmightyCthulhu: wouldn't you want the issue to be solved rather than evading it ad nauseatum? [19:44] why not? [19:44] nalioth, I wish to complain about AlmightyCthulhu ban avoiding [19:45] it's you guys that keep doing that [19:45] AlmightyCthulhu: you will? [19:45] so, more or less all broadband users in Indiana [19:45] or me [19:45] I'm really not so bad [19:45] AlmightyCthulhu, na [19:46] AlmightyCthulhu: how long do you want your kline for? [19:46] it's a pain to get the modem offlined and back up with a new IP [19:46]