[00:35] <elky_work> Tallken: this is generally not considered to be a safe place to idle. we get some pretty fired up people come in here at times, and they like to take it out on this entire channel. they dont discriminate 'evil ops' from innocent onlookers
[00:37] <Myrtti> darkbytez: how can we help you?
[00:37] <darkbytez> just trying the irc client on ubuntu, thanks
[00:38] <Myrtti> weird place to try it in
[00:38] <darkbytez> well,i think so
[00:39] <darkbytez> i need to learn a little bit more about irc chatting
[00:40] <Myrtti> oh - for that I'd suggest #ubuntu-offtopic or some other less formal channel than this
[00:41] <Tallken> elky_work, sorry? what do you mean? my idle times here (IRC) aren't usually bigger than 2h or so
[00:42] <darkbytez> i will go there, where i can find info about the ATI drivers and ubuntu?
[00:43] <Tallken> anyway, leaving
[00:43] <Tallken> cya later!
[00:43] <darkbytez> i'm dissapointed about ATI and open source drivers
[00:45] <Myrtti> I guess #ubuntu might be the correct starting point on that, if you've got spesific problems with the drivers and ubuntu
[00:46] <darkbytez> ok, thanks a lot
[00:46] <Hobbsee> ikonia: oh, you finally got sick of limcore?  excellent.
[00:48]  * Mez yawns
[00:51] <Hobbsee> he's been ranting in -bugs again too.
[00:52] <Hobbsee> [09:34] <LimCore> 09:14:21> howevet, typical user that wants to find a way to extract his archive, will stop reading after he finds option called "extract"
[00:52] <Hobbsee> [09:34] <greg-g> 09:14:47> and when it doesn't work they will bring up the man page again and read 4 lines down
[00:52] <Hobbsee> [09:34] <greg-g> 09:14:52> (what I did)
[00:52] <Hobbsee> [09:34] <LimCore> 09:15:16> I like when software do not waste my time like this
[00:52] <Hobbsee> [09:34] <LimCore> 09:15:41> if user did things according to first part manual, and it did not work, then this is not intuitive at all
[00:52] <Hobbsee> [09:34] <greg-g> 09:15:46> but, feel free to edit the man page how you want, submit a patch to BOTH the upstream and Ubuntu and then wait for acceptance
[00:52] <Hobbsee> [09:34] <LimCore> 09:16:14> well, if ubuntu developers overall dont see problem which I describe here, then I dont think ubuntu tries to be user friendly after all
[00:52] <Hobbsee> yes, because clearly, ubuntu developers are writing everything in existance, including manpages.  I thought he'd been around enough to get more clue.
[00:53] <Myrtti> darkbytez: did you have any other questions?
[00:55] <stdin> Hobbsee: he did apparently promise that "the persistant come in - rant / name call/ disrupt had to stop", and apparently isn't keeping that promise
[00:56] <Hobbsee> stdin: do we have a log of that?
[00:56] <stdin> @comment 3426
[00:56] <Hobbsee> stdin: i'm happy to boot him from the channel, as he's really not being productive...
[00:56] <stdin> see the last comment ^
[00:57] <darkbytez> no thanks Myrtti
[00:57] <Hobbsee> ikonia: can you confirm that with him for both #ubuntu *and* #ubuntu-bugs *and* ubuntu-quality?
[00:57] <Mez> darkbytez, please see /topic then
[02:08] <Pici> fyi, I'm on vacation this week, so I may not be around much.
[02:10] <Myrtti> oo, vacation
[02:10] <bigfuzzyjesus> think i could get unbanned from offtopic
[02:10] <bigfuzzyjesus> ?
[02:15] <bigfuzzyjesus> elkbuntu, do you think i could get unbanned from #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:16] <bigfuzzyjesus> tonyyarusso^
[02:16] <bigfuzzyjesus> LjL^
[02:16] <Myrtti> are you in such a great hurry you're going to ping everyone
[02:17] <Myrtti> I don't think entry to -offtopic is so urgent...
[02:17] <Myrtti> shouldn't be, anyway
[02:17] <bigfuzzyjesus> sorry, i just wanted to ask about it, before i forget
[02:18] <Myrtti> would you happen to remember why you were banned originally?
[02:18] <bigfuzzyjesus> for flooding
[02:19] <bigfuzzyjesus> somewhere around a year ago
[02:19] <bigfuzzyjesus> maybe less, maybe more
[02:19] <orgthingy> anyway, Can i be "official IRC helper " :D ?
[02:20] <Myrtti> orgthingy: I don't think such titles are given
[02:20] <orgthingy> Myrtti : can we make one :D ?
[02:21] <orgthingy> u created a whole new distro.. im pretty sure u can make such a title
[02:21] <Myrtti> orgthingy: I'm not in such a humorous mood right now
[02:21] <Myrtti> to even discuss this
[02:21] <orgthingy> group of trusted people that can help in irc
[02:21] <orgthingy> Myrtti : im pretty serious about it
[02:21] <orgthingy> but, umm, ok..
[02:21] <elky_work> orgthingy: trusted people dont need special titles for their egos
[02:21] <Myrtti> we already have those - and they don't get any special titles
[02:21] <orgthingy> aha, i see, no special titles
[02:22] <bigfuzzyjesus> so about being unbanned
[02:23] <Myrtti> bigfuzzyjesus: I'm not going to make such a decision since the bantracker shows nothing on you
[02:23] <elky_work> he predates the bantracker.
[02:24] <elky_work> the council will discuss. it will not have judgement immediately. please come back tomorrow
[02:24] <Myrtti> and since bantracker doesn't show a thing about you, your case will have to be reviewed better and with time
[02:24] <bigfuzzyjesus> okay
[02:25] <bigfuzzyjesus> is seveas still an op?
[02:25] <orgthingy> oh, he knows ops
[02:25] <orgthingy> thats bad
[02:25] <orgthingy> :(
[02:25] <Myrtti> orgthingy: do you have any other business here?
[02:26] <orgthingy> Myrtti : ah, cant i stay :'( ?
[02:26] <orgthingy> i like discussions here
[02:26] <Myrtti> nope
[02:26] <Myrtti> see /topic
[02:26] <orgthingy> umm, ok
[02:27] <nickrud> Ubums, maybe?
[02:28] <nickrud> Ubuds I meant.
[02:28] <Pici> nickrud: hmm?
[02:28] <nickrud> orthingy ^^
[02:30] <Myrtti> just a friendly reminder - please check what bans you've got on #ubuntu and clear out unneeded ones
[02:33] <bigfuzzyjesus> Pici, are you an op?
[02:33] <Pici> bigfuzzyjesus: yes
[02:33] <bigfuzzyjesus> Pici, oh wow, i did not know that
[02:33] <Myrtti> bigfuzzyjesus: no, he will not lift your ban
[02:33] <Myrtti> :-P
[02:34] <bigfuzzyjesus> Myrtti, i wasnt asking that
[02:34] <Myrtti> bigfuzzyjesus: everyone here with voice ...
[02:34] <Myrtti> oh well.
[02:34] <Myrtti> he left atleast
[02:34] <Myrtti> back to work
[02:34] <nickrud> if a ban isn't in bantracker, does it exist?
[02:34] <nickrud> it's annoying when ballard takes over bans
[02:35] <Myrtti> yes it does exist
[02:36] <Myrtti> it exists in harddrive of a silly flemish hothead
[02:36]  * nickrud wanders away from the serious ones ;)
[02:36] <nickrud> ah, that kind of ban
[02:36] <Myrtti> that kind of ban that is bantracked in ubotu
[02:36] <Myrtti> ie. Anno Seveas
[02:37] <nickrud> yeah, I know who the flemish are :)
[02:37] <nickrud> or in this case the phlemish one
[02:38] <Pici> Myrtti: hah, AS
[02:40] <nickrud> an anarchic but explosively fruitful period of ubuntu irc'ing, followed by the AC era, where things are slowly becoming regularized
[02:41] <Myrtti> hear, hear.
[02:45]  * Myrtti looks at her coffee mug
[03:19] <nalioth> bigfuzzyjesus has been unbanned from #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:23]  * elky_work starts the clock and begins taking bets on how long it lasts.
[03:25] <Myrtti> oh for crying out loud. Remember I told you I got my niece a HP 530?
[03:26] <elky_work> did she break it already?
[03:26] <Myrtti> for 399€?
[03:26] <Myrtti> no
[03:26] <Myrtti> ...
[03:26] <Myrtti> Smart Value Promo BASE Dell Latitude™ D530
[03:26] <Myrtti> Hinta€ 399,00
[03:26]  * Myrtti headdesks
[03:26] <elky_work> eh?
[03:26] <elky_work> you told us the wrong brand?
[03:26] <Myrtti> no
[03:27]  * elky_work is confused
[03:27] <Myrtti> oh, right
[03:27] <Myrtti> 399 without vat
[03:27] <Myrtti> nevermind then
[03:28] <elky_work> oh, the dell is otherwise better?
[03:28] <Myrtti> magnesium struts in the casing...
[03:29] <Myrtti> better battery life
[03:30] <Myrtti> meh.
[03:30] <Myrtti> oh well.
[04:25] <Flannel> how much fun!
[04:25] <Myrtti> ♥
[04:25]  * Myrtti huggles staff
[04:26] <Pici> ♥ floodbots
[04:26] <Flannel> here comes more
[04:27]  * Myrtti huggles Martinp23 
[04:28]  * Martinp23 huggles Myrtti :)
[04:28] <Myrtti> back to LaTeX
[04:29]  * nickrud always thinks of off color jokes when that app name comes up
[04:29] <Flannel> Only in text though.
[04:32]  * Myrtti spanks nickrud 
[04:33] <Martinp23> I +rR'd #ubuntu earlier.  it might be safe to try removing it
[04:34] <nalioth> Martinp23: you'd be in position to do so
[04:34] <Martinp23> done
[04:41] <Myrtti> just a side note, smack me if I am annoying this week and moan about my age - I've got birthday coming
[04:42] <Pici> Happy Birthday!
[04:43]  * Flannel gives Myrtti a birthday present of vim!
[04:43]  * Myrtti larts Flannel with 2.5oz of GNU/Emacs Pocket Reference
[04:45] <nickrud> again!
[04:49] <bazhang> hi bobertdos
[04:50] <bobertdos> hello, bazhang
[04:50] <bobertdos> So, I'm just curious, what's to stop this alternate port from also being attacked?
[04:51] <Flannel> bobertdos: Its not the port being attacked
[04:51] <Flannel> bobertdos: its a reaction by your router to that text coming in on that port
[04:51] <Flannel> Theres actually no attack going on
[04:51] <bobertdos> ah, interesting
[04:53] <bobertdos> So, this exploit really WOULD be best classified as a bug, huh?
[04:54] <Flannel> bobertdos: Not really, no.  Its overzealous "protection" by your router
[04:54] <bazhang> infinitycircuit, who is it
[04:54] <infinitycircuit> Gramps and EMU_HURRICANE
[04:54] <infinitycircuit> they may not be in the channel I didn't check
[04:54] <Flannel> Nope
[04:54] <bobertdos> Hehe, sounds like the closest thing the digital world can have to an allergy :p
[04:55] <bazhang> infinitycircuit, they are not in the channel
[04:55] <nalioth> klined
[04:55] <infinitycircuit> yes i just checked thanks i will go on #freenode
[04:55] <Myrtti> I've missed something out
[04:56] <bobertdos> alright, I just wanted to understand the nature of the exploit, that's all, thanks
[04:56] <Flannel> bobertdos: You can find out more specifics on the interblags
[06:26] <nickrud> @btlogin
[07:53] <Flannel> Hmmm, bantracker seems to have a bug for searching, comments show up in bans.
[09:01] <Myrtti> hello kahrytan
[09:01] <Myrtti> how can we help you today
[09:20] <Flannel> Oh dear, Ossetia spam.
[09:21] <tritium> spam/propaganda
[09:24] <ikonia> kcman1 [n=kc@udp122313uds.hawaiiantel.net]
[09:24] <ikonia> is that also kahrytan ?
[09:25] <gnomefreak> ikonia: yes its him
[09:26] <ikonia> I thought so
[09:26] <gnomefreak> ikonia: 04:25 -!- kahrytan [n=kahrytan@unaffiliated/kahrytan]
[09:26] <gnomefreak> 04:25 -!-  was      : kahrytan
[09:26] <gnomefreak> crap
[09:27] <gnomefreak> ikonia: no its purple (cant recall other nick he has)
[09:27] <gnomefreak> ive seen purple before
[09:27] <ikonia> purple is the generic name for a specific windows client (cant remember which one)
[09:28] <gnomefreak> oh
[09:28] <tritium> I thought it was from pidgin/libpurple
[09:29] <ikonia> ahhh could be
[09:41] <Myrtti> in our series of EPIC VICTORIES, part 276; a mug big enough to have a WHOLE POT of espresso, AND space for milk.
[09:58] <Flannel> purple is generic name for pidgin
[09:59] <Myrtti> yes? and?
[09:59] <Flannel> Myrtti: and... not you.
[09:59] <Flannel> Myrtti: unless you add purple to your coffee
[09:59] <Myrtti> PIPIPINK?!!?!?!1
[09:59] <Flannel> which, from what I hear, makes it taste better
[09:59] <Myrtti> meh.
[10:00]  * Myrtti is reminded of her age
[10:00] <Myrtti> 27.99
[10:00] <Myrtti> I'm btw disgusted by the fact that so many people even *here* are younger than me.
[10:01] <Flannel> Myrtti: you'll get used to it.
[10:01] <elkbuntu> aww, dont be!
[10:02] <Flannel> Myrtti: just repeat after me: "Get off my lawn"
[10:02] <Flannel> and another good one is "You crazy kids"
[10:02] <Myrtti> Flannel: how about the traditional thing we Finnsh have
[10:03] <Flannel> Myrtti: get off... my complaint choir?
[10:04] <Myrtti> "when I was your age, we had to ski ten kilometers to the school. We had logs and pebbles for lunch. We had to knit our own underwear from coarse wool. all our toys were stuck between the radiator and the wall. window faced the forest. wolves howled at night. got our first mobile phones when was 19!!!1111 ungrateful little ..."
[10:05] <Flannel> up hill...
[10:05] <Flannel> both ways
[10:05] <Myrtti> yeah
[10:09] <jpds> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe1a1wHxTyo
[10:50] <elkbuntu> that the python sketch?
[11:00] <jpds> elkeee: Yeah.
[11:08] <Myrtti> someday I'll lart ZAXSES, ASUS-tek and all his other aliases so hard and so fast he'll fly to the dark side of the moon.
[11:33] <elkbuntu> hehe
[13:13] <Mez> too slow jussi01
[13:13] <jussi01> mrg
[13:13] <jussi01> h
[13:13] <Myrtti> awwww
[13:13] <Myrtti> boys fighting again?
[13:13]  * Myrtti gives lollipops
[13:14] <Mez> Dave2, portapeek is apparently causing trouble in a few chans
[13:14] <no0tic> hi
[13:14] <no0tic> :)
[13:14] <no0tic> is LjL around? or anybody who can control FloodBotIt1?
[13:14] <Myrtti> filo1234: how may we help you?
[13:15] <Myrtti> no0tic: MIA for months
[13:15] <no0tic> Myrtti, filo1234 is an italian OP
[13:15] <filo1234> i'm with no0tic  for follow conversation about flodBotIt1  i have not more experience for it
[13:15] <filo1234> Myrtti:  my names is Filippo nice to meet you
[13:16] <Myrtti> howdy
[13:17] <no0tic> Myrtti, italian operators have problems with LjL's FloodBotIt1, is there anybody else apart from him who can help them?
[13:18] <Mez> no0tic, depends on who the bot's actually run by/what it does
[13:18] <Myrtti> I strongly doubt it - unless staff - and besides, this discussion would better fit #ubuntu-irc
[13:18] <no0tic> Myrtti, yes, sorry :) I'll move there
[13:18] <no0tic> bye all
[13:18] <filo1234> by
[13:32] <jussi01> Tallken: how can we help you?
[13:34] <elkbuntu> Tallken, did you leave us in your join list accidentally?
[13:49] <Tallken> well... not accidently
[13:50] <Tallken> thought I'd hang out here and be up to date on Ubuntu issues
[13:50] <Myrtti> Tallken: please see /topic
[13:50] <Myrtti> !idle | Tallken
[13:51] <Tallken> Myrtti: I had read the topic... however it told me nothing as I wouldn't mind being kicked. *However* ubottu's explanation makes a lot more sense and gives me a good reason not to stay here, as I've no pending issues... You should put te bot's text in the topic :)
[13:52] <Tallken> *te==the
[13:52] <Myrtti> the topic gets illegible after certain length ;-)
[13:52] <Hobbsee> second last sentence?
[13:54] <Tallken> anyway, have a nice day :)
[13:55] <Tallken> I was trying to find out if the Ubuntu Forums bot/pubber was kicked/banned from the forums but that's in #ubuntuforums not here :P Cya guys :)
[13:57] <Myrtti> MOAR COFFEE!
[14:03] <stdin> ikonia: that was, umm, random
[14:03] <ikonia> that was an accident
[14:04] <stdin> yeah, but a random accident :p
[14:04] <ikonia> stupid mouse wheel
[14:04] <ikonia> I'm on a touch pad and if you hover just above it it scrolls through like an up arrow
[14:04] <ikonia> I had my hand just resting on the space bar and my thumb must have covered it
[14:05] <jussi01> hehe
[14:05] <jussi01> not everyday you see that
[14:05] <ikonia> sorry
[14:06] <ikonia> I should disable the touch pad when not using it
[14:06] <ikonia> it's very sensitive
[14:06]  * Myrtti rofls
[14:06] <ikonia> the "cock" comment was to someone else when something that builds 64bit works %100 but the 32bit build of it refuses to build
[14:06] <ikonia> stupid
[14:06] <Myrtti> tut-tut
[14:07]  * ikonia is embarressed
[14:08] <Myrtti> AND YOU SHOULD
[14:08] <jussi01> ikonia: thats it, no more ops priviledges for you :P :P
[14:08]  * Myrtti pokes ikonia with The Pink Fluffy Pen of Poking™
[14:08] <Myrtti> *SQUEEEAK*
[14:08] <ikonia> hey - it was a bad shout on my part
[14:08] <ikonia> my hands are well up
[14:09] <jussi01> rofl
[14:09]  * Myrtti curses and mutters "d¤#"%#¤&!/& hot coffee"
[14:09] <ikonia> to make it worse the comment is about 3 days old and it scrolled through that fast it's dragged up a comment from about 3 days old
[14:09] <Myrtti> surprisingly didn't burn my hand
[14:10] <elkbuntu> haha
[14:10] <jussi01> ikonia: perhaps now is the time to shush... :P
[14:10] <jussi01> before you embarras yourself more :P
[14:10] <elkbuntu> ikonia, cockatoos is a good excuse if you need one
[14:10]  * ikonia is ashamed
[14:10]  * jussi01 ROFLs
[14:10] <jussi01> elkbuntu: cockatoos... :D :P
[15:06] <DozedOnLinux> something funny going on here. names changing along with username field
[15:08] <DozedOnLinux> hmmm
[15:08] <Myrtti> excuse me, but WTH
[15:16]  * Myrtti jumps up and down
[15:16] <Myrtti> WAKE UP IM BORED
[15:22] <DozedOnLinux> when someone has time, may you assist me please?
[15:23] <Myrtti> sure
[15:23] <Myrtti> what's the problem?
[15:23] <DozedOnLinux> i dont know what has went on but some staff took over a name someone i was talking to
[15:23] <Myrtti> hmmm?
[15:23] <DozedOnLinux> i can see the name was general but then to taunt me like , do you know i am who you think i am or something like that
[15:24] <Myrtti> when and by whom?
[15:24] <DozedOnLinux> i have as much info as i could get , i had to close pidgin as noone would respon to me
[15:24] <DozedOnLinux> Nick: Lo (identified)
[15:24] <DozedOnLinux> Username: i=lorez@freenode/staff/lorez
[15:24] <DozedOnLinux> name changed 3 or 4 times
[15:24] <DozedOnLinux> and the name of the on ei was helping anhter 3 or 4
[15:25] <Myrtti> well...
[15:25] <DozedOnLinux> and anohter question, i seemed to not be able to even speak in here, noone acknowledged it, so i logged out/in how do i find if name is ghosted ?
[15:26] <DozedOnLinux> i am here just to help, i dont need people playing games,
[15:26]  * Myrtti blinks
[15:27] <DozedOnLinux> ok, well that helps
[15:27] <ikonia> ???
[15:27] <jussi01> right...
[15:29] <christel> im speaking with them in pm, but im not sure i actually understand what he is trying to ask
[15:31] <Myrtti> could someone please tell me what is going on?
[15:31] <Myrtti> meh
[15:31] <Myrtti> [Lag: 219 (??)]
[15:31] <Myrtti> meh.
[15:56]  * Myrtti deletes 8000 emails
[15:56] <Myrtti> gmail ♥
[16:04]  * Myrtti sighs and updates her age in geekcode and cv
[16:28] <rus> hello
[16:28] <rus> 16:24 -!- 103 - #ubuntu: ban *!*@holly.queeg.org [by elky!n=melissa@ubuntu/member/elkbuntu, 4366026 secs ago]
[16:28] <rus> can someone pls unban me
[16:29] <rus> cos its been like 50 days
[16:29] <rus> and thats forever
[16:29] <jussi01> @btlogin
[16:31] <jussi01> rus: I suggest you come back in about 6 hours, when elkbuntu is likely to be awake
[16:33] <rus> ok
[16:33] <rus> bye bye
[16:57]  * Myrtti considers !corner-#ubuntu-offtopic
[17:17] <Gary> do it Myrtti :p
[19:03]  * Myrtti yawns
[19:05] <MenZa> Could someone PLEASE do something about AlmightyCthulhu in -offtopic? >_>
[19:08] <PriceChild> MenZa: what's he up to?
[19:08] <MenZa> PriceChild: Trolling like a madman.
[19:08] <Myrtti> I didn't know baron1984 and ac are the same...
[19:08] <Myrtti> and I doubt it too
[19:08] <PriceChild> they are
[19:08] <PriceChild> and -offtopic needs a clean
[19:08]  * MenZa nods.
[19:09] <PriceChild> Myrtti: is baron1984 banned in there?
[19:09] <PriceChild> MenZa: no need for that
[19:09] <Myrtti> with a nick by ompaul
[19:09] <PriceChild> ahh
[19:09] <PriceChild> Myrtti: want to invite him in here?
[19:09] <Myrtti> I'd still be careful
[19:09] <MenZa> Anyway, cheers for looking at it.
[19:09] <Myrtti> Foxconn thing...
[19:10] <Myrtti> anyway
[19:16] <PriceChild> trident523: how can we help you?
[19:17] <PriceChild> Myrtti: mute if he speaks again
[19:17] <trident523> Clicked a channel link by accident.
[19:19]  * Myrtti gives an agonized look and runs
[19:29] <AlmightyCthulhu> ok, I'll bite.....what do you people want now? Please spare the sarcasm, the condescending attitude, and the hostile behaviors.
[19:30] <ompaul> @btlogin
[19:32] <AlmightyCthulhu> I think my favorite is that "You have left the room, requested by so and so" message
[19:32] <AlmightyCthulhu> is that an Ubuntu kick?
[19:32] <ompaul> no it is a freenode remove
[19:32] <AlmightyCthulhu> well, it fits anyway
[19:32] <nalioth> AlmightyCthulhu: no.  tis a common freenode capablity
[19:32] <AlmightyCthulhu> nobody can sem to call anything what it is
[19:33]  * Myrtti sighs
[19:33] <ompaul> na, kick is a different thing, you can do that too
[19:33] <Myrtti> I hate how utterly useless google sometimes is
[19:33] <AlmightyCthulhu> replace user and strike any key
[19:34] <jpds> Sorted.
[19:34] <AlmightyCthulhu> whenever I have a problem is when Google is down and I have to fall back to Yahoo
[19:35] <AlmightyCthulhu> I stopped using Yahoo when I searched for Rockwell Corporation and got a page of ads about having wells installed or serviced
[19:35] <nalioth> AlmightyCthulhu: i'm not entirely sure why you are here.  can you enlighten us?
[19:35] <AlmightyCthulhu> waiting on what Myrtti and Pricechild want to trump up
[19:36] <Myrtti> meh
[19:36] <Myrtti> so...
[19:36]  * Myrtti pokes PriceChild 
[19:37]  * AlmightyCthulhu replaced Myrtti's stick with a taser and walks off whistling
[19:37] <PriceChild> AlmightyCthulhu: do you go by any other nicks on irc?
[19:37]  * PriceChild is eating ice cream sorry
[19:38] <nalioth> AlmightyCthulhu: why would they "trump up" anything?
[19:38] <AlmightyCthulhu> no, I really don't
[19:38] <AlmightyCthulhu> unless it's a backup or something like AlmightyChtulhu``
[19:39] <AlmightyCthulhu> so if this is about idling, I probably just fell asleep and had a ghost
[19:39] <PriceChild> AlmightyCthulhu: baron1984?
[19:39] <AlmightyCthulhu> who is that?
[19:40] <ompaul> why say who
[19:40]  * Myrtti notes logs in Google
[19:40] <Myrtti> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/07/27/%23ubuntu-ops.txt
[19:40] <ompaul> [12:17] <bazhang> AlmightyCthulhu, what name were you banned under? this one or baron1984
[19:40] <ompaul> [12:17] <AlmightyCthulhu> baron1984
[19:41] <ompaul> ban evasion and not remembering the past is a little strange
[19:41] <AlmightyCthulhu> I just registered this name
[19:41] <ompaul> wrong
[19:41] <AlmightyCthulhu> it's possible someone was using it and didn't register
[19:41] <ompaul> -NickServ- Registered : Jun 05 00:14:24 2008 (9 weeks, 4 days, 18:24:45 ago)
[19:41] <Myrtti> I'm not fully clear what happens on that log
[19:41] <ompaul> stop it
[19:42] <ompaul> Myrtti, I think we remove the ban on that day
[19:42] <ompaul> AlmightyCthulhu, so why exactly are you here?
[19:42]  * Myrtti sighs, gets her classes and starts to fiddle with lyx
[19:42] <AlmightyCthulhu> well, Comcast proxies to save money, kind of like AOL used to
[19:43] <Myrtti> he was accused trolling in -ot, and then accused of ban evasion of Baron1984
[19:43] <PriceChild> ompaul: i invited him
[19:43] <ompaul> PriceChild, in that case, all yours
[19:44] <PriceChild> AlmightyCthulhu: so you remember you using the nick now?
[19:44] <AlmightyCthulhu> play the card all you want, I'll power cycle the modem
[19:44] <AlmightyCthulhu> you'll just be banning everyone else in Indiana
[19:44] <ompaul> AlmightyCthulhu, that is quite a threat
[19:44] <AlmightyCthulhu> I'll do it
[19:44] <Myrtti> AlmightyCthulhu: wouldn't you want the issue to be solved rather than evading it ad nauseatum?
[19:44] <AlmightyCthulhu> why not?
[19:44] <ompaul> nalioth, I wish to complain about AlmightyCthulhu ban avoiding
[19:45] <AlmightyCthulhu> it's you guys that keep doing that
[19:45] <nalioth> AlmightyCthulhu: you will?
[19:45] <AlmightyCthulhu> so, more or less all broadband users in Indiana
[19:45] <AlmightyCthulhu> or me
[19:45] <AlmightyCthulhu> I'm really not so bad
[19:45] <ompaul> AlmightyCthulhu, na
[19:46] <nalioth> AlmightyCthulhu: how long do you want your kline for?
[19:46] <AlmightyCthulhu> it's a pain to get the modem offlined and back up with a new IP
[19:46] <nalioth> i can save you the trouble, AlmightyCthulhu
[19:47] <AlmightyCthulhu> you're all very hostile
[19:47] <AlmightyCthulhu> and rude
[19:47] <ompaul> AlmightyCthulhu, and you are?
[19:47] <AlmightyCthulhu> nice person usually
[19:47] <ompaul> ohh I forgot ban evading
[19:47] <ompaul> i.e. outside the social norms for irc
[19:47] <AlmightyCthulhu> I only got banned because an op was being an ass
[19:47] <Mez> @btlogin
[19:47] <AlmightyCthulhu> just like what is happening here
[19:47] <Myrtti> so now you're going to be equally ass making everyone look fools
[19:47] <ompaul> how to win friends and influence people
[19:48] <AlmightyCthulhu> you don't win friends here, they lock on to you and are quite malicious
[19:48] <AlmightyCthulhu> there's several people I like to talk to here, it just gets ruined by a bad op or two
[19:49] <Mez> AlmightyCthulhu, who are you accusing of being a bad op?
[19:49] <AlmightyCthulhu> I know, I know, I don't kiss enough ass
[19:49] <AlmightyCthulhu> guilty
[19:49] <AlmightyCthulhu> the fastest way to piss people off is refusing to lie
[19:49] <ompaul> wrong
[19:49] <AlmightyCthulhu> then when you do lie
[19:49] <PriceChild> lets all calm down a bit
[19:50] <AlmightyCthulhu> that pisses people off worse
[19:50] <PriceChild> AlmightyCthulhu: so you remember using the nick now?
[19:50] <AlmightyCthulhu> see, I'm being corralled
[19:50] <AlmightyCthulhu> thats a good tactic
[19:50] <PriceChild> AlmightyCthulhu: by 'all', i meant everyone.
[19:51] <AlmightyCthulhu> I am calm, I'm calmly saying you're trying to wrap this up, ban me, and be the good guy
[19:52] <PriceChild> it would be a lot easier for us to wrap up, and all move on if we answered questions instead of threats and pessimistic generalisations
[19:52] <AlmightyCthulhu> then you give me a mailing list where you're all the same people, but you pretend not to be there
[19:52] <AlmightyCthulhu> because it's not IRC, and you're different pretend people on the forum too
[19:53] <AlmightyCthulhu> makes a lot of sense
[19:53] <PriceChild> i'm the only forums moderator here and i have not had any involvement in your case over there
[19:55] <PriceChild> AlmightyCthulhu: There seem to be two bans placed on you in -offtopic now. Whatever nick you use, we would rather you didn't join -offtopic. If you're banned by another alias in another channel, same goes there.
[19:55] <AlmightyCthulhu> Ubuntu works a lot like Scientology, they want conformity
[19:55] <AlmightyCthulhu> and they wave the CoC around like a doctrine
[19:55] <ompaul> filo1234, can we help you?
[19:56] <AlmightyCthulhu> gee, how did I know that would happen?
[19:56] <PriceChild> AlmightyCthulhu: If you're not willing to do anything more than threaten or slander(?) then I don't think we should continue any further.
[19:56] <Mez> filo1234, hey, wanna talk in #ubuntu-irc instead, lil busy in here right now
[19:56] <AlmightyCthulhu> I haven't done anything except contest an unfair ban
[19:56] <PriceChild> AlmightyCthulhu: that's the problem
[19:56] <filo1234> ompaul:  so i'm an italian ubuntu irc operator i cannot stay here?
[19:56] <AlmightyCthulhu> and nobody will listen, and if I do get a reply, it's mindly shitty
[19:56] <filo1234> Mez:  i have send a mail to LjL
[19:57] <AlmightyCthulhu> and in the most caustic tone you can take and still be politically correct
[19:57] <Mez> filo1234, #ubuntu-irc is the best place for international ops to be honest.
[19:57] <filo1234> ok
[19:58] <AlmightyCthulhu> I should just post all those emails I got from your mods
[19:58] <AlmightyCthulhu> that should be interesting
[19:58] <Myrtti> you all need hugs
[19:58] <AlmightyCthulhu> about the only thing you people don't do is start insulting people's mothers
[19:59] <PriceChild> AlmightyCthulhu: sounds like a plan. have fun
[19:59] <Myrtti> I'm fairly sure that if everyone got hugs and smiles, this discussion would be happier and things wouldn't be misunderstanded by purpose
[20:00] <Myrtti> because I see lots of negativeness and almost malicious intents and I'm sure that this is not how you want things to be
[20:01]  * Mez steals laku to hug
[20:01] <AlmightyCthulhu> OK Myrtti, can you riddle me one thing then?
[20:02] <Myrtti> AlmightyCthulhu: I can try, hold on, I'll get my glasses
[20:02] <AlmightyCthulhu> the whole ban evasion thing, just ignore that for the purposes of this question
[20:02] <AlmightyCthulhu> What have I done that has been so terrible?
[20:03] <AlmightyCthulhu> or inexcusable maybe?
[20:03] <PriceChild> AlmightyCthulhu: You've had your say. Please come back another time and maybe you'll listen to ours.
[20:03] <AlmightyCthulhu> You don't ban people for a day or a few days, or a week, to cool down
[20:03] <AlmightyCthulhu> you just all out attack
[20:04] <Mez> AlmightyCthulhu, can you tell me whether you've just seen PriceChild's last message?
[20:04] <AlmightyCthulhu> he's being intentionally provoking
[20:05] <AlmightyCthulhu> I could say a few things, but he's ignorant, so why?
[20:05] <Myrtti> meh
[20:05] <Mez> AlmightyCthulhu, actually, no, he's given you plenty of chances to state your case, to calm down. But you've just been on the all out offensive.
[20:05] <AlmightyCthulhu> I have been? I get banned indefinitely in like May or June
[20:05] <AlmightyCthulhu> with no warning
[20:05] <ompaul> AlmightyCthulhu, we are not here for your ridicule, threats and so forth
[20:05] <AlmightyCthulhu> that's not right
[20:05] <Myrtti> AlmightyCthulhu: it's the offensiveness that puts me off personally. The last time you were here, you accused everyone and made threats
[20:05] <AlmightyCthulhu> it just isn;t
[20:06] <ompaul> AlmightyCthulhu, we are not here for that
[20:06] <Myrtti> AlmightyCthulhu: your behaviour? no it isn't
[20:06] <Mez> AlmightyCthulhu, the logs say that you were banned, bought in here, tried to have explaiuned what the issue was, and you went on the offence then
[20:06] <AlmightyCthulhu> not even by your own biased code of conduct
[20:06] <AlmightyCthulhu> you are treating people wrong
[20:06] <ompaul> meh
[20:07] <ikonia> stand by on all other channels
[20:07] <ompaul> no
[20:07] <Myrtti> I'm not happy but I'm not going to waste my breath on this either
[20:07] <PriceChild> i don't think he's anything to worry about
[20:07] <Myrtti> it's his blog I'm afraid of
[20:07] <Myrtti> this is not good pr to either
[20:07] <PriceChild> well then we'll all have to start changing our attitudes.
[20:07]  * Myrtti shrugs, goes to learn LyX
[20:08] <Myrtti> YOU ALL NEED MORE HUGS
[20:08] <Myrtti> and I need more coffee
[20:08] <MenZa> Can't have enough hugs.
[20:08]  * Myrtti jumps
[20:09] <Myrtti> eek, in which crack of the wall were you hiding?!
[20:09] <Myrtti> (and holy hell I just jumped IRL getting a sms)
[20:10]  * MenZa shuffles back into his corner.
[20:10] <PriceChild> I get involved and then I remove someone :(
[20:10] <ompaul> PriceChild, pm
[20:10] <PriceChild> sure
[20:12]  * Myrtti points the /topic to MenZa 
[20:12] <Myrtti> sowwy
[20:12]  * MenZa nods
[20:12]  * MenZa leaps out the window
[20:13] <PriceChild> btw, while I think about it...
[20:13] <jussi01> poor menza - hope he had a safe landing
[20:13] <PriceChild> don't go watching -ot's join list for comcast addresses.
[20:14] <PriceChild> If he rejoins and plays nice then we have no problem
[20:14] <PriceChild> If he rejoins and stands out... he'll be standing out
[20:15] <Myrtti> should I remove the mute?
[20:15] <ompaul> he is there
[20:15] <ompaul> pfft don't know
[20:15] <Myrtti> 22:13  * MenZa falls into #ubuntu-offtopic, rolls, unscatched.
[20:15] <Myrtti> 22:13  * MenZa waves to Myrtti up above.
[20:15] <Mez> where?
[20:15] <PriceChild> Myrtti: i'd leave them in
[20:15] <Myrtti> hahahah
[20:15] <PriceChild> Myrtti: but removes any others that are stale
[20:15] <Myrtti> incl. Baron1984?
[20:16] <ompaul> not with him sitting there
[20:16] <Mez> huh @ Menza thing?
[20:16] <Mez> @btlogin
[20:17] <Myrtti> Mez: silly
[20:18] <Myrtti> MenZa is funny :-D
[20:21] <Mez> http://www.myextralife.com/strips/08-11-2008.jpg
[20:23] <ompaul> hahahaha
[20:23] <ompaul> sad
[20:26] <ompaul> I unsubscribed from about 20 mailing lists last night
[20:26] <ompaul> too much information
[20:26] <Myrtti> I subscribed to four
[20:26] <Myrtti> I ignore them all gracefully
[20:26]  * Mez eventually reads the sutff on the mailing lists
[20:28] <Myrtti> oh, and I deleted 9107 emails
[20:28] <Mez> lol
[20:28] <Mez> http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/8837/bushfunny1la2.jpg
[20:28]  * Mez deleted 10000 (ish) emails..
[20:28] <Myrtti> been collecting Launchpad Answers mail
[20:28] <Mez> :)
[20:29]  * Myrtti grins http://englishrussia.com/images/georgia.jpg
[20:29] <Myrtti> awww, it's been taken off
[20:29] <Myrtti> no, just laggig
[20:42] <Mez> how long has bash.org been down now
[20:56] <Myrtti> I probably should have eaten something else today than bread and raspberry jelly
[20:58]  * Myrtti glares at lag
[20:58] <Myrtti> meh.
[21:06] <jussi01> jelly? are you using american english or do you mean the wobbly stuff?
[21:08] <Flannel> jelly, jam, preserves, etc
[21:08] <Myrtti> whatever
[21:08] <Myrtti> jussi01: DAMN YOU
[21:08] <Myrtti> you got me mixed up with all your ...
[21:08] <Myrtti> DAMN YOU
[21:10] <Flannel> all his wobbles
[21:10] <jussi01> heheh
[21:10] <Myrtti> http://segphault.jaiku.com/presence/42287179 <-- jussi01
[21:11] <jussi01> there is a qt 4.5? or is that a joke?
[21:12] <stdin> latest Qt is 4.4.1
[21:13] <Myrtti> are you seriously asking *ME*?
[21:13] <Myrtti> :-þ
[21:13] <jussi01> heheh
[21:13] <Flannel> jussi01: emacs doesn't use QT, why would Myrtti know? ;)
[21:13] <Myrtti> ♥
[21:16]  * Myrtti goes to make a mozzarella salad
[21:16] <jussi01> mozzerella -nom nom
[21:16] <Flannel> mozilla salad?
[21:17] <ompaul> Flannel, with icecat on top
[21:17] <ompaul> Flannel, try to weasel your way out of that
[21:18] <Flannel> haha, ompaul, you're so punny!
[21:18] <ompaul> you might get away on the wing of a dove - but very unlikely
[21:18] <jussi01> worse than my dad...
[21:19] <ompaul> I has hardwired pun making device
[21:21]  * Flannel hates the misuse of decimate.
[21:21] <ompaul> killing one in 10?
[21:22] <ompaul> or not
[21:22] <ompaul> the old or new  version?
[21:22]  * ompaul has to take care of some business
[21:22] <Myrtti> binary one
[21:22] <Flannel> ompaul: removing one in ten is the proper usage.  removing nine is imporper
[21:22] <Myrtti> jussi01: you should've been there at LRL
[21:22] <Myrtti> awful, AWFUL man.
[21:22] <Flannel> D = X*0.9, D != X*0.1
[21:55]  * Myrtti frowns at lyx2html
[21:58] <Christ> hai guize
[21:58] <Myrtti> hello, how may we help you?
[21:59] <Christ> you could always send me some money.
[21:59] <Myrtti> a-ha
[21:59] <Christ> oO
[21:59] <Myrtti> so why did you come here?
[22:00] <Christ> 'cause it looked like 3 tonnes of fun.
[22:00]  * Myrtti points at topic
[22:00]  * Christ looks away
[22:01] <Myrtti> !idle | Christ
[22:01] <Christ> !idle | Myritti
[22:02] <Myrtti> Christ: so did you actually have any business here or are you just wasting my time?
[22:02] <Christ> your on IRC, it's not like there's anything constructive to do.
[22:03] <Christ> NO U
[22:04]  * Myrtti yawns
[22:04] <ikonia> cambridge ntl has a lot to answer for
[22:05] <nalioth> y'all note the ident.
[22:06] <nalioth> it is used regularly by this person
[22:06] <Myrtti> ident or realname?
[22:06] <nalioth> n=Blargh
[22:06] <Myrtti> ok
[22:06] <nalioth> the real name changes
[22:06] <Myrtti> his realname was NO U
[22:07] <Myrtti> that's why I wondered
[22:07] <nalioth> some people have nothing better to do than troll
[22:09] <Myrtti> I can think of several better ways to waste time...
[22:25] <elkbuntu> nalioth, did you see the article about trolling the other week?
[22:29] <ompaul> elkbuntu, do show
[22:29] <ompaul> yours or someone elses?
[22:29] <elkbuntu> http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/03/magazine/03trolls-t.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
[22:29] <elkbuntu> nytimes
[22:29] <ompaul> Bruce Schneier's tears can burn holes through an OpenBSD firewall. Lucky for us, Bruce Schneier never cries.
[22:55] <jussi01> and to summarise the article: They are liberal in what they do and conservative in what they construe as acceptable behavior from others. You, the troll says, are not worthy of my understanding; I, therefore, will do everything I can to confound you.
[22:58]  * mneptok farts delicately
[22:58] <ompaul> mneptok, nothing about you is delicate
[22:58]  * ompaul packages mneptok using debian rules
[22:58] <tonyyarusso> I started reading that, but then saw it was 7 pages long..
[22:58] <ompaul> now that has to hurt :)
[22:59] <mneptok> tonyyarusso: it was written by trolls, duh. ;)
[22:59]  * tonyyarusso is mad gmail's down
[22:59] <mneptok> as is GTalk
[22:59] <Myrtti> mneptok: when have you last checked are you within hugging proximity of me?
[22:59] <nalioth> tonyyarusso: it's actually only one page ( hit "Print Article" ) with lots and lots of adverts
[22:59] <mneptok> Myrtti: is Tokyo in proximity?
[22:59] <tonyyarusso> nalioth: heh, nice
[22:59] <jussi01> gmail wfm here
[22:59] <Myrtti> mneptok: sadly no
[23:00] <mneptok> Myrtti: well, "ohaiyo gozaimasu!"
[23:00] <tonyyarusso> jussi01: apparently only some accounts.  Got a 50/50 reply in -ot as well
[23:00] <Myrtti> ohaiyo
[23:00] <jussi01> heh
[23:04]  * mneptok tootles off to breakfast
[23:05] <ompaul> mneptok, have a toasted something for me
[23:05] <ompaul> mneptok, where are you on the planet at this time?
[23:05] <nalioth> ompaul: he just rolled out of bed, dontchaknow
[23:05] <ompaul> my guess is far away from here at any rate
[23:05]  * nalioth wishes he could sleep til 1700
[23:06] <jussi01> hehe
[23:33]  * Myrtti huggles mneptok 
[23:42] <jussi01> nini all
[23:44] <Myrtti> nini jussi01
[23:58] <jpds> Someone please watch |Blade| in #ubuntu. I've just /at'ed 30 him.
[23:58]  * jpds => bed.