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Firefishethat would've been perfect00:00
PsynoKhi0darn00:00
Firefisheya, tell me about it.00:00
FirefisheI could get one from Radio Shack, but all they have is a $50 universal...a bit too pricey for me.00:00
FirefisheAt least right now.00:01
PsynoKhi0I see00:01
FirefisheActually, when my loans come available, I really want a new laptop and a BlackBerry Bold when they come out.  They'll be out by then00:01
FirefisheTime to get my email system back online then, and I'm tired of slow on the phone/data side ;)00:01
PsynoKhi0hehe00:02
FirefisheI figure I'll leave the gaming to my desktop that's been languishing in my bedroom for ages now00:02
FirefisheI'm going for portable and light, with a touch of power.00:02
FirefisheAnd anything that doesn't use Broadcom for a wi-fi card.00:02
FirefisheAtheros or Intell Pro/Wireless sound good choices for a linux system?00:03
FirefisheIntel00:03
PsynoKhi0my knowledge of linux is lacking in many areas still... one of them being wireless support00:06
PsynoKhi0:)00:06
PsynoKhi0you can always have a look at this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported00:07
PsynoKhi0crap, those are cards...00:09
* Myrtti huggles her A-link USB dongle00:10
FirefishePsynoKhi0:  It's okay, I'm pretty familiar with troubleshooting wireless card problems.  I am, after all, the owner of three.  Two  built in's, and one pcmcia derivative.  All BCM-4306 though.  How weird is that?00:13
PsynoKhi03 is enough to say "never Broadcom again, ever" then?00:14
Firefishemake that 400:14
Firefishemy wife's hp laptop is the same as my compaq...same chassis exactly, same processor, same freakin' bcm-4306 chip...but it died earlier than my compaq did00:15
PsynoKhi0the safest might be to check the chipset and do a quick serach prior to buying00:15
PsynoKhi0heh00:15
Firefishethe mac g4 powerbook 1ghz aluminum 15-incher is still goin' strong...but it's hers now and if I even tried to keep it from her, I'd be melted into slag by her adroit x-ray vision ;) hee00:15
PsynoKhi0:)00:15
FirefisheI actually gave her the mac so she'd have something that works00:16
Firefisheubuntu for power pc is on the other partition ;) hee00:16
Firefishe<--sneaky00:16
PsynoKhi0my laptop is a refurbished compaq toaster that has no builtin wireless whatsoever, I guess that's a headache less00:16
PsynoKhi0:)00:17
Firefishehee00:17
Firefishetoaster?00:17
PsynoKhi0yup00:17
Firefishexubuntu, no doubt?00:18
gaurdroshaped like one or really hot like one?00:18
Firefishegood query there gaurdro ;) hee00:18
Firefishenow I'm interested00:18
PsynoKhi0harddrive sits at 53ish celsius most of the time, the RAM cover gets pretty uncomfy to leave you hand on after a couple of hours00:18
PsynoKhi0dang... I'd say... both!00:19
Firefishehot like a toaster00:19
Firefishegot a desktop processor in there?00:19
PsynoKhi0duron mobile... so you can say that00:19
gaurdrodon't they shove those in servers?00:19
PsynoKhi0nope, opterons are server CPUs00:20
Firefisheduron mobile's are okay...00:20
FirefisheMy big thing now is deciding if I want to get a pen-tablet00:20
PsynoKhi0I've never owned a lappy prior to this one so I have no clue what's accptable em wise00:21
FirefisheI need to be able to compile on it....too small a system and I'll be waiting aeons for software to compile ;)00:21
PsynoKhi0heh00:21
PsynoKhi0acceptable temp wine*00:21
PsynoKhi0GRRRRRRR00:21
PsynoKhi0acceptable temp wiSe*00:21
PsynoKhi0there00:21
FirefisheI'm just so glad that most of my stuff for gnu/linux is already available in binary at this point.  I don't have to compile stuff much anymore.00:21
Firefisheubuntu has simplified my life tremendously00:22
Firefishedebian also00:22
PsynoKhi0true00:22
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FirefisheWhat's nice about deb is that I can, when I'm ready, play around with all those cool embedded systems.00:23
PsynoKhi0still, there always the "do I really need that?"... :P00:23
Firefisheoh heck, PsynoKhi0, I usually just install every development tool I can get, including the f77 fortran compiler ;) hee00:23
PsynoKhi0uh00:23
Firefishespeeds up compiling quite a bit00:24
Firefishef77 library, actually00:24
Firefishealgorithms for compiling, not a compiler itself...I need to be accurate about these things00:24
PsynoKhi0speaking of HP/Compaq... has anyone upgraded a firmware using their exes on a linux box?00:27
FirefishePsynoKhi0: That sounds tough.  Doesn't that imply a need for being divorced at least once?00:28
Firefishej;)00:28
Firefishe;)00:28
Firefishefirmware upgrade using your exes.  that just sounds.....wrong ;)00:28
PsynoKhi0.exe files :P00:28
Firefisheohthatwuzit, ic00:29
Firefishe;)00:29
Firefishe:P lol00:29
PsynoKhi0:)00:29
FirefisheWell, the company is in good humour, that's fer sure :)00:29
PsynoKhi0pretty crazy how bad the air flow must be in that thing00:32
PsynoKhi0a fan on the cpu, a tiny one near the power plug and that's it...00:34
PsynoKhi0nothing near RAM nor HDD00:34
PsynoKhi0they should have carved "please fry" on the case00:34
Firefisheheh00:39
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Bakedleafhello?02:59
Bakedleafcan someone help me connect to my wireless network with ubuntu?03:00
Bakedleafxubuntu*03:01
lostogreBakedleaf: whats the prob?03:01
lostogreBakedleaf: ??03:05
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Guest95229where is everyone03:07
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Luzerdoes anybody know if xbox/xubuntu has a limit on the / size?04:06
Myrttiwhy would it have?04:09
Luzeri dont believe it does but im trying to install (x)ubuntu on my xbox(orginal) and it seems to be stuck at "make rootfs"04:10
Myrttihm04:11
Myrttiit just might be that there is something else stalling it04:11
Luzerany ideas what it might be?04:12
Luzeri let it install at the default2gb and it works. only when i try to make the partition size bigger it seems to freeze04:13
Myrttido you have enough RAM?04:15
Luzerthat is the thing. it is for the xbox04:15
wolsMyrtti: 64MB04:28
wolsLuzer: ext3 has a limit yes, but that's in the terrabyte or petabyte area04:29
Luzerthat is what i figured....im going to try a diffrent cd04:30
wolsLuzer: try making the fs manually with mkfs maybe?04:31
Luzerxubunt has a install script that im using.04:32
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cherrrycan i install more effects on hardy?13:01
cherrryfrom wher I will get it?13:02
cherrryHelp me plz..13:02
TheSheepeffects?13:02
cherrryvisual efects13:02
TheSheep!compiz13:03
ubottuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion13:03
cherrryhttp://www.metacafe.com/watch/876290/windows_vista_with_beryl_affect/13:03
cherrryplz check these visual effects13:03
cherrryi have the default efects with compiz...13:04
TheSheepcherrry: ubuntu has it out of the box, if you have computer that can handle those effects, it can probably also handle ubuntu just fine13:04
cherrrybut compiz is working fine for me..13:04
TheSheepoh, ok then13:04
cherrrybut on dat video i found some thing more...13:04
cherrryplease note dAT MINIMIZE EFFECT...13:05
TheSheepcherrry: it's Windows Vista, a completely different operating system13:05
TheSheepcherrry: no?13:05
cherrryplz watch the video completely13:05
TheSheepbesides, we don't do compiz support here, its on #compiz-fusion13:06
wolsa!ccsm13:06
wols!ccsm13:06
ubottuTo enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu: install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' or 'simple-ccsm'. If you install the latter, a new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion13:06
cherrryok thankz.....13:07
cherrryjoin #compiz-fusion13:07
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The_Sorrowuhm, well hello... i would have a few questions here13:47
TheSheep!ask13:49
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)13:49
The_Sorrowok, thanks... so... i would like to know how i can connect to a windowsserver which has an account with my username...13:51
cody-somervilleWhat do you mean a "windows server"?13:52
The_Sorrowwell, the server runs with windows... it's the one from my school13:53
The_Sorrowand to access the network-folders and the other stuff i have to connect with an accountname and a password...13:54
The_Sorrowbut somehow i don't know how i can do it with xubuntu as i am new with it (just changed some days ago to linux and i see that it has potential)13:55
* Myrtti tries to grasp a word13:56
MyrttiThe_Sorrow: do you use citrix or some other similar application to connect to it?13:56
The_Sorrowwell i wasn't able to try till now as i have still holidays...13:57
The_Sorrowand to be honest... i don't have any idea how i could connect to it ^^'''13:59
tsiroshello all... google searching returns irrelevant things sooo: do i have the option to force vsync?14:00
tsirosso that i do not get tearing when moving windows about?14:00
tsirosif it's easy but you're bored to explain just give me a couple keywords and i will google / man / wiki my way from there14:01
tsirosi have the s3 driver if it matters14:05
tsirosthanks anyway14:07
The_Sorrowwell, could anybody help me out?14:08
maxamillionThe_Sorrow: what's the issue?14:12
The_Sorrowwell, i am new to linux and i want to know how i can connect to my school's server which is running windows... my problem is that i don't know how i can connect to it. i need a username and a password to be able to use the full server with it's folders and all the other stuff14:14
bassboiare you talking about the windows remote desktop stuff?14:15
The_Sorrowuhm, no... it's localized. i can only connect to it if i am in the network14:16
Myrttiso samba then?14:16
Myrttiprobably...14:16
The_Sorrowi know, my english is bad, not my native language, but i try my best14:16
The_Sorrowhm... i'll give samba a try14:17
The_Sorrowcan i install with samba the network printers as well?14:21
The_Sorrowon my machine14:22
The_Sorrowuhm O.o''' where's samba? i installed it, but it doesn't show up...14:26
bytor4232Samba is a service.  You actually need smbclient and smbfs to connect to a windows server.14:32
bytor4232apt-get install smbfs smbclient14:32
The_Sorrowthanks :)14:33
bytor4232Once their installed, look at the man pages for smbmount and smbclient.  Use smbumount to unmount stuff mounted by smbmount.14:33
The_Sorrowman? manual?14:34
wolsThe_Sorrow: "man <command>"   yes14:37
wolsbytor4232: not anymore. one uses "mount"14:37
The_Sorrowthanks ;)14:38
The_Sorrowis there also a graphical interface?14:38
wolsfor what?14:40
DavidTangyeHi all. I just installed xubuntu desktop. Printers do not seem to be automatically detected. What do I do to enable this, so it will load the appropriate driver?14:40
wols!cups | DavidTangye14:40
ubottuDavidTangye: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows14:40
The_Sorrowuhm, for the mounting of the drives and so on... i don't want to screw anything up with the server if i do i'll be in very big trouble ~.~14:41
bytor4232The_Sorrow: Your not going to screw anything up more than if you mapped it as a network drive in Windows.14:42
DavidTangyeOk, thanks. Thats the same as for Ubuntu. I would have thought cups would be already loaded as a dependency of the desktop. The PC is not here, so I will need to confirm this later.14:42
The_Sorrowhm... but to access them i need to enter a username and password...14:43
DavidTangyeSo when I plugged a usb printer in  (Canon MPS520) nothing happened. Any guesses why?14:43
wolsDavidTangye: lsusb14:45
DavidTangyeThanks |wols. I remember  I did that ... a few hours ago. It showed the 2 usb ports. Hmmm ... but the nearest supported printer in the list at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrintersCanon refers to 'Add Printer'. I started to do that but did not see a USB port. so I stopped. What shuold I have selected there?14:48
DavidTangye... I remember BSD, um, HP Jet driver, parallel etc, no USB though.14:49
DavidTangyeThe PC is not here so I am working on memory, sorry I cant be more clear withe more details.14:50
DavidTangyeJust checked with this Ubuntu box though .. .same Printer Utility... Its the Select Device that I need to get right. Methinks IPP?  Anyway i shall play with that.14:52
DavidTangyeThanks for the help.14:53
DavidTangye1 more question: Which cheap PCI card sold in Australia works with WPA (1 or 2)? Most seem to need WEP.14:54
deepfriedsquirreI coukld install Quake 4 on an installation of xubuntu over the top of an installation of ubuntu, but now that I'm on a plain xubuntu I'm getting: 'The setup program seems to have failed on x86_64/glibc-2.0'16:09
TheSheepdeepfriedsquirre: was your previous install 32 bit, and this is 64 bit?16:37
surkihi. Using Xubuntu 8.04. I am not able to play vlc in full screen (panels are showing). any idea?18:11
surkianybody around?18:15
cody-somervilleHi18:15
surkiping18:22
bytor4232Sorry about the log outs and in.  Playing with Xinerama18:29
jdrakeI have a xubuntu 8.04 image and would like to know if there would be a simple way to upgrade the image to 8.04.1 without redownloading it.18:58
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JinKazamahi all21:02
cody-somervilleHi21:04
cody-somerville:]21:04
chris_debianHi, all.21:33
chris_debianI've just installed xubuntu-restricted-extras, as I thought this would enable me to rip my CD's to mp3's.  Does anyone know the best way to achieve this?21:34
chris_debianStrange....some text missing21:34
chris_debianI've just installed xubuntu-restricted-extras....21:34
wolschris_debian: dpkg -l|grep lame21:35
chris_debian2 secs....not sure if installed....21:35
chris_debianReturned liblame021:35
wolsgood. that is a mp3 encode. best one there is21:36
wolsnow you need a ripper. dunno what to use there tho21:36
chris_debianAny idea how I can use it.  Can I use it with Sound Juicer for example?21:36
wols!Info cdex21:36
ubottuPackage cdex does not exist in hardy21:36
chris_debianexit21:36
chris_debianSorry...wrong window....21:36
chris_debianStill here21:37
chris_debianJust confirmed cdex not available21:37
chris_debianCan anyone else help?21:38
chris_debianI know I should rip to ogg,but my girlfriends Archos doesn't support that.21:39
chris_debianThis did the job:21:49
chris_debianhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=957&page=621:49
chris_debianCheers, all.21:50
chris_debianHi, can anyone suggest a good CD ripper?  Sound Juicer keeps crashing.  I need to be able to rip mp3's, but have liblame installed.22:10
zoredacheI must shamefully admit that I just use iTunes on my mac.... :|22:11
chris_debianNice..... ;-)22:11
zoredachesound juicer worked ok for me a while ago, but I haven't used it since feisty I think...22:12
chris_debianGets so far and then crashes.  No memory or cpu problems, must be buggy.22:12
zoredachedo you get an error or anything?22:13
chris_debianMaybe time to try something that's not quite as pretty.22:13
chris_debianNope, just randomly crashes.22:13
zoredacheyou might try starting it from a terminal to see if you get anything on stdout/stderr22:13
chris_debianI'll have a look at the available packages and search on extract22:13
chris_debianThat will be job number 2.  I need to try to rip a CD first.22:13
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arthur02i need a little help, with my 8.04 Ubuntu distro23:15
diogohey I was thinking about putting xubuntu on my pc because prefer xfce (not because of hardware) but how does it works better on ATI than ubuntu? Or it doesn't? I saw that depending on the distro whatever it is ATI has totally different performance!!23:18
zoredachearthur02: if you want help you'll need to ask your question...  If somebody knows the answer they may respond23:18
zoredachediogo: there should be no different in video performance between ubuntu and xubuntu for the same release23:19
diogok... and I saw that xubuntu xfce is kinda gnomish... is it th intention?23:20
zoredachediogo: xfce uses gtk, so does gnome23:22
diogoyeah I know but the default look looks like the gnome look... don't just a comment.... I'll try it out23:22
arthur02ok, i have a dual boot system, ubuntu with another "OS" Windows Xp, i recently was obligated to reformat my windows partition and reinstalled everything, but in this process i lost my ubuntu partition, i already check my ubuntu cd installation but it says that it doesn't come with rescue tool, what can i do? (Sorry for my english, i only speak in spanish)23:23
TheSheep!grub23:23
ubottugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto23:23
TheSheeparthur02: see the first link in there --^23:23
arthur02thank you guys23:24

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