[00:00] <Firefishe> that would've been perfect
[00:00] <PsynoKhi0> darn
[00:00] <Firefishe> ya, tell me about it.
[00:00] <Firefishe> I could get one from Radio Shack, but all they have is a $50 universal...a bit too pricey for me.
[00:01] <Firefishe> At least right now.
[00:01] <PsynoKhi0> I see
[00:01] <Firefishe> Actually, when my loans come available, I really want a new laptop and a BlackBerry Bold when they come out.  They'll be out by then
[00:01] <Firefishe> Time to get my email system back online then, and I'm tired of slow on the phone/data side ;)
[00:02] <PsynoKhi0> hehe
[00:02] <Firefishe> I figure I'll leave the gaming to my desktop that's been languishing in my bedroom for ages now
[00:02] <Firefishe> I'm going for portable and light, with a touch of power.
[00:02] <Firefishe> And anything that doesn't use Broadcom for a wi-fi card.
[00:03] <Firefishe> Atheros or Intell Pro/Wireless sound good choices for a linux system?
[00:03] <Firefishe> Intel
[00:06] <PsynoKhi0> my knowledge of linux is lacking in many areas still... one of them being wireless support
[00:06] <PsynoKhi0> :)
[00:07] <PsynoKhi0> you can always have a look at this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[00:09] <PsynoKhi0> crap, those are cards...
[00:10]  * Myrtti huggles her A-link USB dongle
[00:13] <Firefishe> PsynoKhi0:  It's okay, I'm pretty familiar with troubleshooting wireless card problems.  I am, after all, the owner of three.  Two  built in's, and one pcmcia derivative.  All BCM-4306 though.  How weird is that?
[00:14] <PsynoKhi0> 3 is enough to say "never Broadcom again, ever" then?
[00:14] <Firefishe> make that 4
[00:15] <Firefishe> my wife's hp laptop is the same as my compaq...same chassis exactly, same processor, same freakin' bcm-4306 chip...but it died earlier than my compaq did
[00:15] <PsynoKhi0> the safest might be to check the chipset and do a quick serach prior to buying
[00:15] <PsynoKhi0> heh
[00:15] <Firefishe> the mac g4 powerbook 1ghz aluminum 15-incher is still goin' strong...but it's hers now and if I even tried to keep it from her, I'd be melted into slag by her adroit x-ray vision ;) hee
[00:15] <PsynoKhi0> :)
[00:16] <Firefishe> I actually gave her the mac so she'd have something that works
[00:16] <Firefishe> ubuntu for power pc is on the other partition ;) hee
[00:16] <Firefishe> <--sneaky
[00:16] <PsynoKhi0> my laptop is a refurbished compaq toaster that has no builtin wireless whatsoever, I guess that's a headache less
[00:17] <PsynoKhi0> :)
[00:17] <Firefishe> hee
[00:17] <Firefishe> toaster?
[00:17] <PsynoKhi0> yup
[00:18] <Firefishe> xubuntu, no doubt?
[00:18] <gaurdro> shaped like one or really hot like one?
[00:18] <Firefishe> good query there gaurdro ;) hee
[00:18] <Firefishe> now I'm interested
[00:18] <PsynoKhi0> harddrive sits at 53ish celsius most of the time, the RAM cover gets pretty uncomfy to leave you hand on after a couple of hours
[00:19] <PsynoKhi0> dang... I'd say... both!
[00:19] <Firefishe> hot like a toaster
[00:19] <Firefishe> got a desktop processor in there?
[00:19] <PsynoKhi0> duron mobile... so you can say that
[00:19] <gaurdro> don't they shove those in servers?
[00:20] <PsynoKhi0> nope, opterons are server CPUs
[00:20] <Firefishe> duron mobile's are okay...
[00:20] <Firefishe> My big thing now is deciding if I want to get a pen-tablet
[00:21] <PsynoKhi0> I've never owned a lappy prior to this one so I have no clue what's accptable em wise
[00:21] <Firefishe> I need to be able to compile on it....too small a system and I'll be waiting aeons for software to compile ;)
[00:21] <PsynoKhi0> heh
[00:21] <PsynoKhi0> acceptable temp wine*
[00:21] <PsynoKhi0> GRRRRRRR
[00:21] <PsynoKhi0> acceptable temp wiSe*
[00:21] <PsynoKhi0> there
[00:21] <Firefishe> I'm just so glad that most of my stuff for gnu/linux is already available in binary at this point.  I don't have to compile stuff much anymore.
[00:22] <Firefishe> ubuntu has simplified my life tremendously
[00:22] <Firefishe> debian also
[00:22] <PsynoKhi0> true
[00:23] <Firefishe> What's nice about deb is that I can, when I'm ready, play around with all those cool embedded systems.
[00:23] <PsynoKhi0> still, there always the "do I really need that?"... :P
[00:23] <Firefishe> oh heck, PsynoKhi0, I usually just install every development tool I can get, including the f77 fortran compiler ;) hee
[00:23] <PsynoKhi0> uh
[00:24] <Firefishe> speeds up compiling quite a bit
[00:24] <Firefishe> f77 library, actually
[00:24] <Firefishe> algorithms for compiling, not a compiler itself...I need to be accurate about these things
[00:27] <PsynoKhi0> speaking of HP/Compaq... has anyone upgraded a firmware using their exes on a linux box?
[00:28] <Firefishe> PsynoKhi0: That sounds tough.  Doesn't that imply a need for being divorced at least once?
[00:28] <Firefishe> j;)
[00:28] <Firefishe> ;)
[00:28] <Firefishe> firmware upgrade using your exes.  that just sounds.....wrong ;)
[00:28] <PsynoKhi0> .exe files :P
[00:29] <Firefishe> ohthatwuzit, ic
[00:29] <Firefishe> ;)
[00:29] <Firefishe> :P lol
[00:29] <PsynoKhi0> :)
[00:29] <Firefishe> Well, the company is in good humour, that's fer sure :)
[00:32] <PsynoKhi0> pretty crazy how bad the air flow must be in that thing
[00:34] <PsynoKhi0> a fan on the cpu, a tiny one near the power plug and that's it...
[00:34] <PsynoKhi0> nothing near RAM nor HDD
[00:34] <PsynoKhi0> they should have carved "please fry" on the case
[00:39] <Firefishe> heh
[02:59] <Bakedleaf> hello?
[03:00] <Bakedleaf> can someone help me connect to my wireless network with ubuntu?
[03:01] <Bakedleaf> xubuntu*
[03:01] <lostogre> Bakedleaf: whats the prob?
[03:05] <lostogre> Bakedleaf: ??
[03:07] <Guest95229> where is everyone
[04:06] <Luzer> does anybody know if xbox/xubuntu has a limit on the / size?
[04:09] <Myrtti> why would it have?
[04:10] <Luzer> i dont believe it does but im trying to install (x)ubuntu on my xbox(orginal) and it seems to be stuck at "make rootfs"
[04:11] <Myrtti> hm
[04:11] <Myrtti> it just might be that there is something else stalling it
[04:12] <Luzer> any ideas what it might be?
[04:13] <Luzer> i let it install at the default2gb and it works. only when i try to make the partition size bigger it seems to freeze
[04:15] <Myrtti> do you have enough RAM?
[04:15] <Luzer> that is the thing. it is for the xbox
[04:28] <wols> Myrtti: 64MB
[04:29] <wols> Luzer: ext3 has a limit yes, but that's in the terrabyte or petabyte area
[04:30] <Luzer> that is what i figured....im going to try a diffrent cd
[04:31] <wols> Luzer: try making the fs manually with mkfs maybe?
[04:32] <Luzer> xubunt has a install script that im using.
[13:01] <cherrry> can i install more effects on hardy?
[13:02] <cherrry> from wher I will get it?
[13:02] <cherrry> Help me plz..
[13:02] <TheSheep> effects?
[13:02] <cherrry> visual efects
[13:03] <TheSheep> !compiz
[13:03] <cherrry> http://www.metacafe.com/watch/876290/windows_vista_with_beryl_affect/
[13:03] <cherrry> plz check these visual effects
[13:04] <cherrry> i have the default efects with compiz...
[13:04] <TheSheep> cherrry: ubuntu has it out of the box, if you have computer that can handle those effects, it can probably also handle ubuntu just fine
[13:04] <cherrry> but compiz is working fine for me..
[13:04] <TheSheep> oh, ok then
[13:04] <cherrry> but on dat video i found some thing more...
[13:05] <cherrry> please note dAT MINIMIZE EFFECT...
[13:05] <TheSheep> cherrry: it's Windows Vista, a completely different operating system
[13:05] <TheSheep> cherrry: no?
[13:05] <cherrry> plz watch the video completely
[13:06] <TheSheep> besides, we don't do compiz support here, its on #compiz-fusion
[13:06] <wols> a!ccsm
[13:06] <wols> !ccsm
[13:07] <cherrry> ok thankz.....
[13:07] <cherrry> join ﻿#compiz-fusion
[13:47] <The_Sorrow> uhm, well hello... i would have a few questions here
[13:49] <TheSheep> !ask
[13:51] <The_Sorrow> ok, thanks... so... i would like to know how i can connect to a windowsserver which has an account with my username...
[13:52] <cody-somerville> What do you mean a "windows server"?
[13:53] <The_Sorrow> well, the server runs with windows... it's the one from my school
[13:54] <The_Sorrow> and to access the network-folders and the other stuff i have to connect with an accountname and a password...
[13:55] <The_Sorrow> but somehow i don't know how i can do it with xubuntu as i am new with it (just changed some days ago to linux and i see that it has potential)
[13:56]  * Myrtti tries to grasp a word
[13:56] <Myrtti> The_Sorrow: do you use citrix or some other similar application to connect to it?
[13:57] <The_Sorrow> well i wasn't able to try till now as i have still holidays...
[13:59] <The_Sorrow> and to be honest... i don't have any idea how i could connect to it ^^'''
[14:00] <tsiros> hello all... google searching returns irrelevant things sooo: do i have the option to force vsync?
[14:00] <tsiros> so that i do not get tearing when moving windows about?
[14:01] <tsiros> if it's easy but you're bored to explain just give me a couple keywords and i will google / man / wiki my way from there
[14:05] <tsiros> i have the s3 driver if it matters
[14:07] <tsiros> thanks anyway
[14:08] <The_Sorrow> well, could anybody help me out?
[14:12] <maxamillion> The_Sorrow: what's the issue?
[14:14] <The_Sorrow> well, i am new to linux and i want to know how i can connect to my school's server which is running windows... my problem is that i don't know how i can connect to it. i need a username and a password to be able to use the full server with it's folders and all the other stuff
[14:15] <bassboi> are you talking about the windows remote desktop stuff?
[14:16] <The_Sorrow> uhm, no... it's localized. i can only connect to it if i am in the network
[14:16] <Myrtti> so samba then?
[14:16] <Myrtti> probably...
[14:16] <The_Sorrow> i know, my english is bad, not my native language, but i try my best
[14:17] <The_Sorrow> hm... i'll give samba a try
[14:21] <The_Sorrow> can i install with samba the network printers as well?
[14:22] <The_Sorrow> on my machine
[14:26] <The_Sorrow> uhm O.o''' where's samba? i installed it, but it doesn't show up...
[14:32] <bytor4232> Samba is a service.  You actually need smbclient and smbfs to connect to a windows server.
[14:32] <bytor4232> apt-get install smbfs smbclient
[14:33] <The_Sorrow> thanks :)
[14:33] <bytor4232> Once their installed, look at the man pages for smbmount and smbclient.  Use smbumount to unmount stuff mounted by smbmount.
[14:34] <The_Sorrow> man? manual?
[14:37] <wols> The_Sorrow: "man <command>"   yes
[14:37] <wols> bytor4232: not anymore. one uses "mount"
[14:38] <The_Sorrow> thanks ;)
[14:38] <The_Sorrow> is there also a graphical interface?
[14:40] <wols> for what?
[14:40] <DavidTangye> Hi all. I just installed xubuntu desktop. Printers do not seem to be automatically detected. What do I do to enable this, so it will load the appropriate driver?
[14:40] <wols> !cups | DavidTangye
[14:41] <The_Sorrow> uhm, for the mounting of the drives and so on... i don't want to screw anything up with the server if i do i'll be in very big trouble ~.~
[14:42] <bytor4232> The_Sorrow: Your not going to screw anything up more than if you mapped it as a network drive in Windows.
[14:42] <DavidTangye> Ok, thanks. Thats the same as for Ubuntu. I would have thought cups would be already loaded as a dependency of the desktop. The PC is not here, so I will need to confirm this later.
[14:43] <The_Sorrow> hm... but to access them i need to enter a username and password...
[14:43] <DavidTangye> So when I plugged a usb printer in  (Canon MPS520) nothing happened. Any guesses why?
[14:45] <wols> DavidTangye: lsusb
[14:48] <DavidTangye> Thanks |wols. I remember  I did that ... a few hours ago. It showed the 2 usb ports. Hmmm ... but the nearest supported printer in the list at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrintersCanon refers to 'Add Printer'. I started to do that but did not see a USB port. so I stopped. What shuold I have selected there?
[14:49] <DavidTangye> ... I remember BSD, um, HP Jet driver, parallel etc, no USB though.
[14:50] <DavidTangye> The PC is not here so I am working on memory, sorry I cant be more clear withe more details.
[14:52] <DavidTangye> Just checked with this Ubuntu box though .. .same Printer Utility... Its the Select Device that I need to get right. Methinks IPP?  Anyway i shall play with that.
[14:53] <DavidTangye> Thanks for the help.
[14:54] <DavidTangye> 1 more question: Which cheap PCI card sold in Australia works with WPA (1 or 2)? Most seem to need WEP.
[16:09] <deepfriedsquirre> I coukld install Quake 4 on an installation of xubuntu over the top of an installation of ubuntu, but now that I'm on a plain xubuntu I'm getting: 'The setup program seems to have failed on x86_64/glibc-2.0'
[16:37] <TheSheep> deepfriedsquirre: was your previous install 32 bit, and this is 64 bit?
[18:11] <surki> hi. Using Xubuntu 8.04. I am not able to play vlc in full screen (panels are showing). any idea?
[18:15] <surki> anybody around?
[18:15] <cody-somerville> Hi
[18:22] <surki> ping
[18:29] <bytor4232> Sorry about the log outs and in.  Playing with Xinerama
[18:58] <jdrake> I have a xubuntu 8.04 image and would like to know if there would be a simple way to upgrade the image to 8.04.1 without redownloading it.
[21:02] <JinKazama> hi all
[21:04] <cody-somerville> Hi
[21:04] <cody-somerville> :]
[21:33] <chris_debian> Hi, all.
[21:34] <chris_debian> I've just installed xubuntu-restricted-extras, as I thought this would enable me to rip my CD's to mp3's.  Does anyone know the best way to achieve this?
[21:34] <chris_debian> Strange....some text missing
[21:34] <chris_debian> I've just installed xubuntu-restricted-extras....
[21:35] <wols> chris_debian: dpkg -l|grep lame
[21:35] <chris_debian> 2 secs....not sure if installed....
[21:35] <chris_debian> Returned liblame0
[21:36] <wols> good. that is a mp3 encode. best one there is
[21:36] <wols> now you need a ripper. dunno what to use there tho
[21:36] <chris_debian> Any idea how I can use it.  Can I use it with Sound Juicer for example?
[21:36] <wols> !Info cdex
[21:36] <chris_debian> exit
[21:36] <chris_debian> Sorry...wrong window....
[21:37] <chris_debian> Still here
[21:37] <chris_debian> Just confirmed cdex not available
[21:38] <chris_debian> Can anyone else help?
[21:39] <chris_debian> I know I should rip to ogg,but my girlfriends Archos doesn't support that.
[21:49] <chris_debian> This did the job:
[21:49] <chris_debian> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=957&page=6
[21:50] <chris_debian> Cheers, all.
[22:10] <chris_debian> Hi, can anyone suggest a good CD ripper?  Sound Juicer keeps crashing.  I need to be able to rip mp3's, but have liblame installed.
[22:11] <zoredache> I must shamefully admit that I just use iTunes on my mac.... :|
[22:11] <chris_debian> Nice..... ;-)
[22:12] <zoredache> sound juicer worked ok for me a while ago, but I haven't used it since feisty I think...
[22:12] <chris_debian> Gets so far and then crashes.  No memory or cpu problems, must be buggy.
[22:13] <zoredache> do you get an error or anything?
[22:13] <chris_debian> Maybe time to try something that's not quite as pretty.
[22:13] <chris_debian> Nope, just randomly crashes.
[22:13] <zoredache> you might try starting it from a terminal to see if you get anything on stdout/stderr
[22:13] <chris_debian> I'll have a look at the available packages and search on extract
[22:13] <chris_debian> That will be job number 2.  I need to try to rip a CD first.
[23:15] <arthur02> i need a little help, with my 8.04 Ubuntu distro
[23:18] <diogo> hey I was thinking about putting xubuntu on my pc because prefer xfce (not because of hardware) but how does it works better on ATI than ubuntu? Or it doesn't? I saw that depending on the distro whatever it is ATI has totally different performance!!
[23:18] <zoredache> arthur02: if you want help you'll need to ask your question...  If somebody knows the answer they may respond
[23:19] <zoredache> diogo: there should be no different in video performance between ubuntu and xubuntu for the same release
[23:20] <diogo> k... and I saw that xubuntu xfce is kinda gnomish... is it th intention?
[23:22] <zoredache> diogo: xfce uses gtk, so does gnome
[23:22] <diogo> yeah I know but the default look looks like the gnome look... don't just a comment.... I'll try it out
[23:23] <arthur02> ok, i have a dual boot system, ubuntu with another "OS" Windows Xp, i recently was obligated to reformat my windows partition and reinstalled everything, but in this process i lost my ubuntu partition, i already check my ubuntu cd installation but it says that it doesn't come with rescue tool, what can i do? (Sorry for my english, i only speak in spanish)
[23:23] <TheSheep> !grub
[23:23] <TheSheep> arthur02: see the first link in there --^
[23:24] <arthur02> thank you guys