| JontheEchidna | http://dot.kde.org/1218497374/ | 00:40 |
|---|---|---|
| JontheEchidna | nice banner | 00:40 |
| === jjesse__ is now known as jjesse | ||
| kduser | Right What does Kubuntu use for sound? | 02:53 |
| jjesse | phonon is the backend i think its called | 02:53 |
| kduser | No below that | 02:53 |
| kduser | If I play something from the command line what enables me to get sound from there? | 02:54 |
| Jucato | depends on how you play the sound or what you use to play it | 02:54 |
| jjesse | morning Jucato | 02:54 |
| Jucato | strictly speaking there is no "sound" for the command line. | 02:54 |
| Jucato | jjesse: hallo | 02:55 |
| Jucato | oh, and phonon uses xine by default, but it can use gstreamer too I think | 02:55 |
| kduser | Well if I play sound from the command line I get nothing | 02:55 |
| kduser | If I start up KDE then sound emits gracefully from the speakers | 02:55 |
| kduser | If I close KDE then sound continues to flirt in harmony with my ears | 02:56 |
| JontheEchidna | what program are you trying to use to play sound in the console? | 02:56 |
| kduser | My Conclusion? KDE starts something that enables sound | 02:56 |
| Jucato | of course, because KDE has a sound "server" (arts for KDE 3, phonon for KDE 4) that lets it play sounds | 02:56 |
| kduser | mplayer | 02:56 |
| kduser | Pretty much un KDE related | 02:56 |
| Jucato | so if you use "mplayer <file> in the command line nothing comes out? | 02:56 |
| kduser | I can use oggplay as welll | 02:56 |
| kduser | nothing happens until I load KDE | 02:57 |
| kduser | then Sound!!! | 02:57 |
| * Jucato also wonders why this is in -devel... | 02:57 | |
| kduser | Because it might be a bug? | 02:57 |
| Jucato | I'm not a sound expert, but I have a feeling ALSA isn't getting loaded | 02:57 |
| kduser | Except I don't think I have alsa installed at all | 02:58 |
| Jucato | ... | 02:58 |
| kduser | I don't have alsamixer I should say | 03:00 |
| kduser | Which thinking about it is strange | 03:01 |
| kduser | isn't Kmix just a frontend for that | 03:01 |
| Jucato | no | 03:01 |
| kduser | I'm guessing the KDE desktop starts some DBUS interface for sound? | 03:02 |
| kduser | though this is much more gettin into #kubuntu land | 03:05 |
| seele | Riddell: does kubuntu create standard folders in ~ just on new install or on upgrade too? | 07:58 |
| Riddell | seele: not entirely sure, it's done by the xdg-user-dirs-update tool | 07:58 |
| Riddell | seele: I think it makes them if /home/jr/.config/user-dirs.dirs doesn't exist | 07:59 |
| Riddell | maybe the man page says | 07:59 |
| seele | even if there were a man page, i have doubts it would be that useful | 08:02 |
| seele | hum.. well google was useless too | 08:03 |
| seele | Riddell: would it be referenced by anything besides xdg-user-dirs-update or xdg-user-dirs? the freedesktop documentation is lacking | 08:04 |
| seele | hum, i guess i can do an upgrade and an install when i get home and see what happens | 08:06 |
| Jucato | those are always fun :) | 08:07 |
| Riddell | http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/common-user-directories-naming-spec ? | 08:09 |
| Riddell | is somewhat lacking | 08:09 |
| seele | is hardy using xdg? i dont rememberthe standard folders until i started testing the kde4 cds | 08:11 |
| Riddell | it should be | 08:11 |
| seele | ok, then i guess it is a nonissue | 08:12 |
| seele | it would be annoying that if you upgraded an existing system (and file structure) you magically got mapped media folders added automatically | 08:13 |
| seele | becausyou probably already have a music, photos, and document management scheme set up somehow | 08:13 |
| Riddell | seele: hardy does have xdg-user-dirs | 08:16 |
| seele | Riddell: ok cool. | 08:17 |
| davmor2 | Alternative 20080812 is knackered libxine1-ffmepg: Depends: libavcodec51 (>= 3:0.svn20080206) but is not installabe | 10:33 |
| Artemis_Fowl | seele: KGRUBEditor 0.8 is out | 11:01 |
| Artemis_Fowl | http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=75442 | 11:01 |
| Artemis_Fowl | and my blog post (as well as a visual changelog) about it: http://artfowl.blogspot.com/2008/08/new-kgrubeditor-version-08-visual.html | 11:01 |
| Artemis_Fowl | apachelogger: ping | 11:02 |
| apachelogger | Artemis_Fowl: pong | 11:07 |
| apachelogger | Artemis_Fowl: tarball broken | 11:07 |
| Artemis_Fowl | broken? | 11:07 |
| apachelogger | Artemis_Fowl: it doesn't have a directory containing the source tree | 11:07 |
| apachelogger | i.e. it just spread all it's files in my main directory :P | 11:07 |
| Artemis_Fowl | oh | 11:08 |
| Artemis_Fowl | damn | 11:08 |
| apachelogger | :) | 11:08 |
| Artemis_Fowl | I used the tar command | 11:08 |
| Artemis_Fowl | w8 to repack then | 11:08 |
| apachelogger | Artemis_Fowl: don't you have a release script? | 11:09 |
| Artemis_Fowl | no | 11:10 |
| apachelogger | now... if you would host the source in KDE's svn .... ;-) | 11:10 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: ping | 11:11 |
| Artemis_Fowl | apachelogger: uploading | 11:11 |
| apachelogger | Artemis_Fowl: sf.net also needs 0.8 | 11:12 |
| Artemis_Fowl | apachelogger: uploaded | 11:12 |
| apachelogger | hooray \o/ | 11:12 |
| Artemis_Fowl | apachelogger: sf...omg i need an ftp client now | 11:12 |
| apachelogger | now... if you would host the source on KDE's mirror network .... ;-) | 11:13 |
| apachelogger | Artemis_Fowl: well, if I was you, I would drop tarball uploading to sf.net | 11:14 |
| apachelogger | I only did that once, and then I had Amarok switch to KDE because I almost went nuts with sf.net | 11:14 |
| Artemis_Fowl | I AM nuts with sf :) | 11:15 |
| apachelogger | well, just stop using it :P | 11:15 |
| apachelogger | besides, launchpad is way cooler anyway ;-) | 11:15 |
| apachelogger | + you could probably have your translations in launchpad | 11:15 |
| apachelogger | anyway | 11:16 |
| Artemis_Fowl | launchpad allows for tarball uploading? | 11:16 |
| apachelogger | I think so | 11:16 |
| Artemis_Fowl | good I might consider changing there then | 11:16 |
| apachelogger | well | 11:17 |
| apachelogger | Artemis_Fowl: you should checkout all the alternatives | 11:17 |
| apachelogger | IMHO using the KDE infrastructure makes a lot more sense for KDE applications | 11:18 |
| apachelogger | you might not have webbased translation like in launchpad but you have ~50 teams for high quality translation | 11:18 |
| Artemis_Fowl | you mean KDE svn? | 11:18 |
| apachelogger | yes | 11:18 |
| apachelogger | + ftp.kde.org | 11:18 |
| apachelogger | we also have release scripts for extragear/playground applications | 11:19 |
| * Artemis_Fowl got a headache with all these alternatives | 11:20 | |
| Artemis_Fowl | :) | 11:20 |
| apachelogger | :) | 11:20 |
| Artemis_Fowl | apachelogger: the new tarball is ok, right? | 11:26 |
| === davmor2 is now known as davmor2-away | ||
| apachelogger | Artemis_Fowl: the directory should have a -VERSION suffix, but I can live without it :) | 11:28 |
| Artemis_Fowl | ok | 11:28 |
| Artemis_Fowl | When did SF implement the new WebUpload feature? nice | 11:40 |
| apachelogger | didn't they always have it? | 11:52 |
| apachelogger | Artemis_Fowl: does 0.8 compile with KDE 4.0? | 11:54 |
| Artemis_Fowl | dunno. just noticed it | 11:54 |
| Artemis_Fowl | apachelogger: dunno either | 11:55 |
| Artemis_Fowl | apachelogger: it surely needs 4.0.4 | 11:55 |
| apachelogger | !info kde4libs | 11:55 |
| ubottu | Package kde4libs does not exist in hardy | 11:55 |
| Artemis_Fowl | apachelogger: but I could have used a function that was introduced in KDE 4.1 | 11:55 |
| apachelogger | !info kdelibs5 | 11:55 |
| ubottu | kdelibs5 (source: kde4libs): core libraries for all KDE 4 applications. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:4.0.3-0ubuntu5.2 (hardy), package size 7862 kB, installed size 22328 kB | 11:55 |
| apachelogger | well, we don't have 4.0.4 in hardy anyway | 11:55 |
| apachelogger | Artemis_Fowl: the desktop file is missing a final newline | 12:03 |
| Artemis_Fowl | apachelogger: anything else wrong? so as to fix them all together and re-upload | 12:04 |
| apachelogger | Artemis_Fowl: don't see anything else | 12:05 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: the desktop file changes don't handle missing newlines very well | 12:05 |
| apachelogger | http://paste.ubuntu.com/36808/ | 12:06 |
| === glatzor_ is now known as glatzor | ||
| nixternal | Riddell: well, last night kicked off the first leg of the kubuntu-docs...a major restructuring and now jjesse and I are going to start attacking | 12:08 |
| apachelogger | Artemis_Fowl: how to use kgrubeditor as systemsettings module? | 12:14 |
| Artemis_Fowl | apachelogger: re-uploading | 12:14 |
| Artemis_Fowl | apachelogger: can't right now | 12:14 |
| Artemis_Fowl | apachelogger: tomorrow I'll publish the System Settings module | 12:15 |
| Artemis_Fowl | or in 2 days | 12:15 |
| apachelogger | Artemis_Fowl: independent tarball? | 12:15 |
| Artemis_Fowl | apachelogger: yes | 12:15 |
| Riddell | nixternal: rock | 12:15 |
| apachelogger | Artemis_Fowl: why? | 12:15 |
| Riddell | davmor2-away: was knetworkmanager working on the live CD? | 12:15 |
| Artemis_Fowl | would it be better if they were bundled together? | 12:16 |
| apachelogger | Artemis_Fowl: well, 2 tarballs doubles the work ;-) | 12:17 |
| apachelogger | and packages will probably split the systemsettings module in an individual package anyway | 12:17 |
| apachelogger | s/packages/packagers | 12:18 |
| Artemis_Fowl | well I hope some GNOME guy will eventually work on a GNOME counterpart so that I won't have to work on the application | 12:18 |
| Artemis_Fowl | and focus on the module | 12:18 |
| Artemis_Fowl | apachelogger: tarball at kde-apps updated | 12:19 |
| apachelogger | well, it still makes sense to release it as all-in-one tarball since the various parts probably depend on the most recent version of the application anyway, right? | 12:20 |
| Artemis_Fowl | well I would have to double the code inside the tarball | 12:22 |
| Artemis_Fowl | one subdir for the app and another for the kcm probably | 12:23 |
| Artemis_Fowl | sf tarball updated too | 12:25 |
| seele | Artemis_Fowl: whoo, grats on the release | 12:30 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: pong | 12:41 |
| Artemis_Fowl | seele: thanx. apachelogger is already working on the package | 12:43 |
| seele | awesome.. once there is a package, maybe i can get some users to install it and use it for some feedback | 12:45 |
| Artemis_Fowl | ok | 12:48 |
| * apachelogger is wondering | 12:53 | |
| apachelogger | ah, right, JontheEchidna do you have a list-missing log from hardy kdelibs? | 12:54 |
| apachelogger | Artemis_Fowl: double as in duplicate? :P | 12:54 |
| apachelogger | if not duplicate then the double doesn't matte ;-) | 12:55 |
| apachelogger | *matter | 12:55 |
| JontheEchidna | Hmm, nope | 12:55 |
| apachelogger | this is gonna be fun | 12:56 |
| Artemis_Fowl | double as in creating a separate subdir, where the code would be slightly modified | 12:57 |
| Artemis_Fowl | many little modifications | 12:58 |
| Riddell | has anyone tried knetworkmanager 0.7? | 13:07 |
| apachelogger | it seems to be working | 13:07 |
| apachelogger | but it's not exactly the most usable piece of software :S | 13:07 |
| Riddell | ok, that's better than I have | 13:11 |
| === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak | ||
| === davmor2-away is now known as davmor2 | ||
| davmor2 | Riddell: I haven't tried the kubuntu version yet I'm about to after I sort out this bug report with seb128 | 13:59 |
| davmor2 | Riddell: any thing else you need checking while it's running? | 14:08 |
| Riddell | davmor2: does Settings->Printing work | 14:13 |
| davmor2 | Riddell: so that printing and networking anything else? | 14:14 |
| Riddell | is all for now | 14:14 |
| davmor2 | np's fire it up shortly | 14:17 |
| davmor2 | Riddell: printing is a no go. It's collating a report though so I'll add to my original bug | 14:44 |
| Riddell | davmor2: humph | 14:45 |
| Riddell | davmor2: what happens if you start system-config-printer-kde on the command line? | 14:45 |
| davmor2 | Riddell: File "/usr/share/system-config-printer-kde.py", line 74, in <module> | 14:48 |
| davmor2 | import ppds | 14:48 |
| davmor2 | ImportError: No module named ppds | 14:48 |
| Riddell | davmor2: what version is installed? | 14:48 |
| davmor2 | what the command to get the version I forget | 14:48 |
| Riddell | apt-cache policy system-config-printer-kde | 14:50 |
| davmor2 | policy thats the one :) | 14:50 |
| davmor2 | installed 0.10 | 14:50 |
| Riddell | hmmmm | 14:51 |
| davmor2 | on a plus side interent is working :) | 14:51 |
| Riddell | davmor2: is python-cupshelpers installed? | 14:53 |
| davmor2 | installed 1.0.4+git20080730-0ubuntu1 | 14:54 |
| davmor2 | Riddell: ^ | 14:54 |
| Riddell | hmm | 14:54 |
| Riddell | oh, my upload didn't seem to work | 14:56 |
| Riddell | wrong version number | 14:56 |
| davmor2 | Riddell: so that'll be a no then :) | 14:57 |
| Riddell | davmor2: could you install http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/system-config-printer-kde_0.11_all.deb | 15:00 |
| davmor2 | Seems to work test page just coming through | 15:08 |
| Riddell | excellent | 15:09 |
| Riddell | thanks davmor2 | 15:09 |
| Riddell | uploaded, should appear in tomorrow's daily | 15:09 |
| davmor2 | Riddell: yeap test page is fine :) | 15:09 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: ping | 15:20 |
| apachelogger | oh wello | 15:21 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: plese backport kgrubeditor | 15:21 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: Where would I get it from? | 15:25 |
| mornfall | Anyone has anything they want fixed for adept 3 beta 1? My "must" list is empty, there are a few should items still. I'll try to address that tomorrow and release maybe on Thursday? | 15:25 |
| mornfall | I'll only fix major bugs past beta 1 and there will be at most beta 2 and then final... | 15:26 |
| JontheEchidna | Hmm, there's nothing that springs to mind, I'd say Adept is in pretty good shape already | 15:31 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: intrepid | 15:31 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: coolness | 15:31 |
| JontheEchidna | 0.7-ubuntu1? | 15:32 |
| apachelogger | hm | 15:33 |
| apachelogger | no | 15:33 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kgrubeditor | 15:33 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: and don't forget to remove the manpage ;-) | 15:34 |
| JontheEchidna | ;-) | 15:34 |
| raphink | hello there | 15:38 |
| raphink | is anyone with the kubuntu2 theme on the wiki experiencing issues with the website? | 15:39 |
| apachelogger | ryanakca: ^ | 15:40 |
| JontheEchidna | ok, I've imported debian/cdbs from a hardy package + updated the rules file, and updated the changelog | 15:42 |
| JontheEchidna | I'm not missing anything, am I? | 15:43 |
| * JontheEchidna is about to pbuild | 15:43 | |
| apachelogger | kick the manpage | 15:44 |
| apachelogger | that's all I think | 15:44 |
| apachelogger | doesn't take very long to build anyway :) | 15:45 |
| JontheEchidna | oh yah, kicked the manpage too | 15:46 |
| JontheEchidna | getting the pbuild environment... | 15:46 |
| Jucato | raphink: I can't even login now... AttributeError | 15:46 |
| raphink | Jucato: yes, same as me http://pastebin.ca/1168083 | 15:47 |
| raphink | Jucato: is that what you get? | 15:47 |
| raphink | Jucato: I'm on #canonical-sysadmin reporting it if you want to join | 15:47 |
| Jucato | raphink: yes it is | 15:47 |
| raphink | Jucato: can you join #canonical-sysadmin ? | 15:49 |
| Jucato | ok | 15:49 |
| jpds | Jucato, raphink: I suggest poke newz2000 in #ubuntu-website about the theme, he made it. | 15:51 |
| raphink | agy is having a look at it atm jpds :) | 15:52 |
| jpds | raphink: OK (I saw ;-)), the wiki had an upgrade recently and the theme may require one too. | 15:53 |
| Jucato | jpds: oh btw, while you're here, what does ubot5 do? :) | 15:56 |
| jpds | Jucato: What ubottu does. | 15:56 |
| Jucato | jpds: hm ok... just saw it in #ubuntu-ph... just wondered :) | 15:57 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: are you going to package qt firefox? | 15:57 |
| JontheEchidna | hmm | 15:57 |
| JontheEchidna | I was thinking about it but | 15:57 |
| JontheEchidna | I'm not quite sure how to make it co-installable with firefox | 15:58 |
| JontheEchidna | unless that's not possible? | 15:58 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: I guess you can just use a different prefix like we did for KDE 4 | 15:59 |
| apachelogger | Will distributions package it? | 15:59 |
| apachelogger | That would be interesting to know. Maybe Kubuntu would like to have it... | 15:59 |
| apachelogger | just thinking we should get that finished today and grab some karma :P | 15:59 |
| JontheEchidna | actually in it's current state | 16:00 |
| JontheEchidna | it's unusable | 16:00 |
| raphink | speaking of firefox, I have a package for freepv, which is an open-source QuickTime VR viewer with a mozilla plugin | 16:00 |
| JontheEchidna | basically | 16:00 |
| raphink | if anyone is interested in interactive panos | 16:01 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: that doesn't matter | 16:01 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: it's all about the promotion | 16:01 |
| apachelogger | did anyone try kobby yet? | 16:03 |
| JontheEchidna | Currently they're working on getting the Firefox-Qt repo into the main repo as a branch | 16:03 |
| JontheEchidna | maybe we could wait for that and get the ubuntu mozilla team to package it | 16:03 |
| JontheEchidna | \o/ | 16:03 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: how would that draw attention to kubuntu :P | 16:04 |
| JontheEchidna | :P | 16:04 |
| JontheEchidna | I guess having mozilla-qt packages would be pretty attention-getting | 16:04 |
| apachelogger | nah | 16:04 |
| apachelogger | we need them now | 16:04 |
| apachelogger | right now | 16:04 |
| JontheEchidna | lol, -0ubuntu1 turned into -0ubuntu~hardy1~ppa1 | 16:05 |
| JontheEchidna | ok, pbuildin' now | 16:06 |
| apachelogger | *snapshotting mozilla-qt* | 16:07 |
| JontheEchidna | beware autoconf hell | 16:11 |
| JontheEchidna | would you like my ~/.mozconfig file? | 16:12 |
| apachelogger | sure | 16:12 |
| * apachelogger is worse than google :P | 16:12 | |
| JontheEchidna | oh wait, I need to edit it | 16:15 |
| JontheEchidna | btw, mozilla-qt doesn't build with gcc 4.3 without patches | 16:15 |
| yuriy | mornfall: I haven't looked it in a while and don't know if there's anything more pressing, but menus would be nice before anybody screams about it | 16:16 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: it's in your inbox | 16:17 |
| mornfall | yuriy: Hmm, menus. | 16:18 |
| mornfall | A tricky one. | 16:18 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: thx | 16:18 |
| mornfall | But it does make sense indeed. | 16:18 |
| yuriy | it would be tricky to make kactions for the sidebar items? | 16:19 |
| mornfall | yuriy: Would we make any use of that? I sort of doubt that... | 16:20 |
| mornfall | Although. | 16:20 |
| mornfall | Dunno. | 16:20 |
| mornfall | It's not very easy and probably regression-prone. | 16:20 |
| mornfall | I'd leave that for later, if the need arises. | 16:20 |
| yuriy | if it's not easy then you can probably punt for now | 16:21 |
| mornfall | (Actually. No, it might be easier than what I have thought.) | 16:21 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=449566 | 16:21 |
| ubottu | Mozilla bug 449566 in Widget: Qt "cairo-qpainter-surface.cpp fails to compile with gcc 4.3.x" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 16:21 |
| mornfall | yuriy: Okey, adding createGUI() call into ctor gives me a working Help menu. | 16:27 |
| yuriy | yep, I'd already done that before I realized there were no kactions to use in the xml and haven't had a chance to work on it since | 16:29 |
| mornfall | I'll at least add the standard actions. Well, Quit. | 16:29 |
| === blizzzek is now known as blizzz | ||
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: usual autohell is nothing compared to this :P | 16:38 |
| JontheEchidna | yay, it builds | 16:41 |
| JontheEchidna | anybody care to test it? I'm uploading it to kubuntu-updates-testing ppa | 16:41 |
| JontheEchidna | (kgrubeditor) | 16:42 |
| apachelogger | wah | 16:43 |
| apachelogger | half an hour of batter | 16:43 |
| apachelogger | this is no good | 16:43 |
| apachelogger | yay, I have a configur file! | 16:44 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: doing a manual build right now | 16:49 |
| apachelogger | how long is that gonna take? | 16:49 |
| JontheEchidna | Hmm, my estimates put it on about the same level as kdelibs | 16:50 |
| mornfall | How do you install xmlui stuff with cmake? | 17:22 |
| Riddell | install( FILES umbrelloui.rc DESTINATION ${DATA_INSTALL_DIR}/umbrello ) | 17:24 |
| Riddell | mornfall: is how we do it in umbrello | 17:24 |
| mornfall | Aye, thanks. | 17:24 |
| mornfall | yuriy: I have added the sidebar actions, help menu, quit, and update/commit. Anything obvious and easy to add? | 17:28 |
| mornfall | (Maybe an action to do upgrade, switching the tab to preview could be useful. Hmm.) | 17:28 |
| mornfall | Well, later. | 17:29 |
| mornfall | Gotta run now. | 17:29 |
| yuriy | mornfall: I think that's it. awesome, bye! | 17:29 |
| apachelogger | this will never finish | 17:33 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: is kgrub done? | 17:33 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: in k-u-t | 17:36 |
| JontheEchidna | nobody's taken up the offer to test | 17:36 |
| apachelogger | I'll use my vm | 17:36 |
| JontheEchidna | cool | 17:37 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: do you have anything to do right now? | 17:37 |
| JontheEchidna | not really | 17:37 |
| JontheEchidna | I have been going through dolphin in Launchpad | 17:37 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: the kdelibs backport has a quirk | 17:37 |
| apachelogger | the file all_languages is missing | 17:37 |
| JontheEchidna | iirc | 17:38 |
| apachelogger | should be in /usr/lib/kde4/share/locale/all_languages I think | 17:38 |
| JontheEchidna | that's in the not installed list | 17:38 |
| apachelogger | well in the not-installed file it is | 17:38 |
| apachelogger | thing is, it should be in usr/lib/kde4 because it's also there in kde-nightly | 17:38 |
| apachelogger | but I am not sure | 17:38 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: how does one know it's actually Qt firefox? | 17:41 |
| JontheEchidna | what do you mean? | 17:41 |
| JontheEchidna | well if you go to google | 17:41 |
| JontheEchidna | the pushbuttons should look oxygen-y | 17:41 |
| apachelogger | hm | 17:42 |
| JontheEchidna | and unless they're using your icon theme the forward/back buttons don't have icons | 17:42 |
| apachelogger | in this case I have firefox-qt running | 17:42 |
| apachelogger | horrible | 17:42 |
| apachelogger | on to the packaging! | 17:42 |
| * apachelogger is wondering how to best go about this | 17:42 | |
| apachelogger | also I should strip the tarball | 17:42 |
| apachelogger | loads of unneeded stuff | 17:43 |
| apachelogger | http://aplg.kollide.net/images/snapshot056.png | 17:49 |
| apachelogger | hm | 17:49 |
| apachelogger | dark clouds | 17:49 |
| apachelogger | like, really dark | 17:49 |
| eagles0513875 | i have a question where exactly in the kernel do i choose which packages are installed by default | 17:50 |
| Riddell | ! | 17:51 |
| eagles0513875 | ? | 17:51 |
| apachelogger | . | 17:51 |
| eagles0513875 | Riddell: im working on starting my own ubuntu server fork | 17:51 |
| eagles0513875 | for clustering and eventually more | 17:52 |
| apachelogger | eagles0513875: I am pretty sure this kind of stuff is defined in the cd seeds | 17:52 |
| eagles0513875 | u lost me | 17:52 |
| eagles0513875 | *you | 17:52 |
| apachelogger | sorry :( | 17:52 |
| Riddell | packages have nothing to do with any kernel | 17:53 |
| eagles0513875 | okj where do i define what packages r installed by default | 17:53 |
| yuriy | eagles0513875: there are howtos and tools for customizing Ubuntu CDs, search for them on Google | 17:54 |
| eagles0513875 | thanks | 17:54 |
| Riddell | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization for example | 17:55 |
| * Riddell out | 17:55 | |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: apparently tabs and buttons, etc look so horrible in FF-Qt because they haven't ported XUL to use Qt yet, or so says the dot.kde.org interview with the dev | 18:10 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: yeah, I know | 18:30 |
| apachelogger | xul is rather awful anyway :P | 18:30 |
| JontheEchidna | they should just drop it for Qt | 18:32 |
| JontheEchidna | that way they don't have to stumble over themselves hacking away at half-working integration ports | 18:32 |
| JontheEchidna | and just use one codebase | 18:32 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: got an opinion on bug 256064? | 19:29 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 256064 in meta-kde "KDE4.1 - Desktop settings not preserved if I restart X" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/256064 | 19:29 |
| \sh | apachelogger: inGardenWithCoffeeHaXX0ring(tm) ? <- doesn't it mean in a gadda da vida ? ,-> | 20:50 |
| \sh | I mean, the original title was "in the garden of eden" but this guy was so stoned, he didn't get it ,-> | 20:50 |
| \sh | JontheEchidna: that's normal... the session manager and all other apps don't recognize the kill -<whatever> signal...and they don't save all the things they do normally when you end the session normally | 20:52 |
| \sh | JontheEchidna: to change it, you need to know what's being send when pressing ctrl+alt+backspace and catch those things, and handle it as "SIGNAL(quit())" | 20:53 |
| \sh | aehm...kapp.SIGNAL("quit()"); | 20:54 |
| === echidnaman is now known as JontheEchidna | ||
| === Czessi_ is now known as Czessi | ||
| a|wen | yuriy: regarding bug 256910 (problem is that wineconfig doesn't work if Z: drive is present) ... will wineconfig survive; if not I'll mark is at "wontfix", or do you want me to do something else with it? | 22:39 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 256910 in kde-guidance "kcmwineconfig doesn't load if .wine already exists" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/256910 | 22:39 |
| apachelogger | \sh: true | 23:26 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna, \sh: about the x restart -> IMHO applications should just save settings on-the-fly | 23:26 |
| apachelogger | so it's a valid wishfrom my POV | 23:26 |
| * JontheEchidna doesn't have wish-setting powers | 23:27 | |
| JontheEchidna | I need to see about joining the bugcontrol team to get them | 23:27 |
| apachelogger | become motu :P | 23:28 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: that wish also should be fwded upstream | 23:28 |
| * apachelogger is copying the quite big firefox-qt package to his workstation | 23:30 | |
| alleeMac | http://paste.ubuntu.com/36977 first problem could IMHO be fixed if kubuntu-kde4-desktop would depend on kdebase-runtime and not kdebase-runtime-*-kde4 pkgs | 23:46 |
| apachelogger | no | 23:47 |
| apachelogger | the issue is at a much deeper level | 23:47 |
| alleeMac | apachelogger: care to elaborate | 23:47 |
| apachelogger | alleeMac: one of kdebase-runtime's deps can't upgrade forcing kdebase-runtime to not upgrade, while -bin-kde4 is to be upgraded making the complete upgrade fail | 23:49 |
| alleeMac | mhmm, ksysguard-kde4 depends on kdebase-runtime, not kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4. that's not consistent but should be no problem ... | 23:57 |
| alleeMac | umhmm. The problem asks for a virtual machine to try it with --dry-run | 23:58 |
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!
