=== Jordan_U_ is now known as Jordan_U [06:32] where's tacplus, it's not in the repository? why did they take it off? [06:38] was it ever? [06:40] lunch: it's been removed from debian too [06:40] probably orphaned [06:41] lunch: plus, there's a report that it doesn't even instal [06:42] l [06:42] i installed it on the last distro of ubuntu. after i upgrade, it's not in the repos [06:43] sometime, software drives me nuts, what WAS working no longer work. they fixed something but introduce new problems. that goes for microsoft and linux [06:44] !info tac-plus [06:44] simply put, nobody was paying attention to it [06:44] Package tac-plus does not exist in intrepid [06:44] !info tac-plus gutsy [06:44] tac-plus (source: tac-plus): TACACS+ authentication daemon. In component universe, is extra. Version 1:4.0.4.alpha-14 (gutsy), package size 102 kB, installed size 316 kB [06:44] yup, that was the one i installed when i had gusty [06:45] im guessing tac-plus was broke in debian, and the maintainer didn't respond to a bug report [06:45] and after so many days [06:46] it was "orphaned" [06:46] and now it sits, waiting for someone to take up the cause [06:47] if you're willing to be that guy, ask in #ubuntu-motu for steps to take [06:47] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tac-plus/+bugs [06:47] because clearly it affected you more than anyone else thus far =/ [06:48] thank you :) [07:08] Guys I just got the update just a few min. ago and went back to see if there was anymore and there was as it was downloading the packages I got an error. E: the package cache file is corrupted E:_cache=>open()failed, plaese report [07:09] anyone around??? [07:11] Gumby are you a dev of 8.10??? [07:11] !find guidance hardy [07:11] Found: guidance-backends, kde-guidance, kde-guidance-powermanager [07:12] "guidance-backends: /usr/share/python-support/guidance-backends/displayconfig-hwprobe.py" is just plain evil... [07:12] If you have a laptop with switchable GPUs, say goodbye to xorg.conf. [07:12] It just gets mysteriously WIPED OUT, without notice. [07:13] BOOM! Gone! [07:13] Sorry about that, but I had to deal with that on a friend's laptop today. === pen_ is now known as pen [07:56] DanaG: I've got a desktop with two video cards .. could that explain why my xorg.conf got wiped out some time ago? [08:08] scyrma: That might. [08:08] I had to dpkg-divert it. [08:09] sudo dpkg-divert --add --local --rename /usr/share/python-support/guidance-backends/displayconfig-hwprobe.py [08:09] Adding `local diversion of /usr/share/python-support/guidance-backends/displayconfig-hwprobe.py to /usr/share/python-support/guidance-backends/displayconfig-hwprobe.py.distrib' [08:35] I'm going to file a bug on that, one of these days. === terminx_ is now known as TerminX === catweazle_ is now known as catweazle === pen_ is now known as pen === lamego is now known as joaopinto === catweazle_ is now known as catweazle === TheImp is now known as TheInfinity === LSD|Ninj2 is now known as LSD|Ninja === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak [13:45] ok.. I have the most annoying bug ever... my pointer keys are not working (thank God the space bar is no longer super...) [13:45] so is anyone having this issue? [13:46] no pointer keys, no home/end/pg up/pg dn [13:46] no Del [13:46] hubuntu: they work here just fine [13:46] help.. please [13:46] hubuntu: most likely its your set up [13:46] I think it may have something to do with the x configuration I have [13:46] hubuntu: i would say yes [13:47] before things worked fine under X but not on the terminal, with the update yesterday things have changed... [13:47] but you should beable to use keybord from menu to see if you can tweak it [13:47] from within gnome you mean? [13:47] X wasnt updated in a few days [13:47] hubuntu: yes [13:48] gnome and mono updates the past few days [13:48] COuld it have been the day before that? [13:48] I had a BIG update [13:49] hubuntu: that depends how often you update but i havent seen X updates since thursday of last week [13:49] brb gonna check the keyboard settingsd [13:49] * gnomefreak gone for a while [13:50] yes, last week I got the space bar as super, so gnome-do wouyld pop up in every keystroke after a word... [13:50] input hotplug stuff, i wonder. i thought there was a bug about that somewhere. [13:50] haha [13:51] things are better now, but still... no ened/home or pointer keys is very annoying (specially the up key which acts as Prt Scr, imagine the ammount of propossed screenshots...) [13:52] I'm testing the layout in the keyboard setting and indeed it seems to be VERY wrong... [13:52] anby ideas on how to fix this (or report it, for that matter...) [13:54] Hobbsee, is that X related? BEcause if it is I copuld tweak the x config file [13:57] yes [14:01] ok.. I'll give it a try. Thanks [14:10] anyone using flash 10 beta 2? [14:11] the one included in intrepid repo? [14:11] why is it slower and buggier than flash 10 beta 1 [14:19] is there going to be a way in Kubuntu to keep kde3.5.9 as default? if kde4.x is going to be /kde (rather than /kde4) [14:21] In Intrepid there will be no way to have a KDE3 desktop [14:25] that sux :( [14:25] hmm. my volume keys don't work anymore. [14:27] sounds like I can't go intrepid :(... I wanna keep my kde3 [14:27] not that I mind having the option of KDE4 I just don't want it to be the default... [14:30] doesn't Kubuntu Hardy with KDE 3.x 3 years support? [14:32] what are the main upgrades in the next ubuntu ? [14:32] I think so [14:32] LTS [14:32] replaced Dapper since Dappers essentialyl expired [14:32] yeah whats kewl and new in Intrepid? [14:33] yeah any one will respond ? [14:33] Hi, I'm using intrepid. How may I complie the tc1100-wmi.ko-kernel-module from source and insmod it into the 2.6.26-5-generic kernel without getting a invalid module format? [14:33] aside from kde4.1 if you using kubuntu [14:34] I installed the 2.6.26-source via apt-get, made an make oldconfig, switched the tc1100-wmi module via make menuconfig from < > to and then typed make drivers/misc/tc1100-wmi.ko [14:35] * ForgeAus shrugs [14:36] what are the main upgrades in the next ubuntu ? [14:36] what's new in ubuntu intepid ibex? [14:37] blaze, maybe it says in here : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IntrepidIbex ?? [14:41] actually not much there looking at it [14:41] i saw it , it's nothing [14:41] release schedules but nothing about whats different === marko__ is now known as marko-_- [15:05] ok, no one know , isn't here any one from the programmers to ask? [15:07] Blaze_Boy: there's list of approved blueprints in https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid and in addition to that there will be of course the normal upgrades (kenrel, gnome, etc. and what that brings) [15:07] thanx trewas [15:07] i'll check that === catweazle_ is now known as catweazle [15:38] hubuntu: still having broken pointer keys? [15:38] Set keyboard layout in Gnome to "Generic->Evdev Managed Keyboard" [15:38] have tweaked the x org file, but have not restarted x yet [15:38] For some reason, it's not longer using xorg.conf settings for keyboard; instead, it's using evdev. [15:39] ... and evdev does things... way differently (I'm not sure how), and thus uses a different layout setting. [15:39] ok, should it work right after the change or after restarting gnome? [15:39] Should work immediately. [15:40] it work partially [15:40] but the up key still acts as PrtScr [15:41] Odd. [15:41] everything else works... [15:41] besides the up key [15:41] BUt hey, thanks... It's good to have the left, right and down arrow back :) [15:42] I'm going to restart X and see what ahåppens [15:42] brb [15:51] DanaG, it works :) [15:51] Cool. [15:51] I wish they'd put that in the channel topic... and perhaps have update-manager suggest it (or do it automatically). [15:53] So I made 2 changes: 1. Removed the XkbVariant line from xorg.conf and did the Edev Man Keyb trick you gave me [15:53] is this common in Intrepid? [15:53] I think so. [15:54] I saw that the XkbVariant was not present in previous versions of the xorg file, so I just trashed it and it seemed to have fixed the issue [15:54] They must've changed it so that the default keyboard uses evdev, by adding a new HAL FDI file. [15:54] well thanks peps :) [15:54] thanks so much DanaG for helping me out here [15:54] I love this community [15:54] :) [15:55] ok.. gotta go back to real life [15:55] peace [15:59] Hmm, update has downloaded 2.6.26.5-kernel a few times, but after reboot it still says its 2.6.26.4-kernel? [16:18] heh: " * Revert "meta: merge the mess of single-lib packages back into one large one." - That way lies madness and pain." [16:31] when is alfa 4 going to be relaise [16:31] d [16:31] eased [16:44] Hello Everyone in every channel, im sry for amsg but im having this problem for weeks and it seems not to be an ubuntu related bug, so i try if anyone could help me this way. Everytime that I switch Viewports, a configuration window of cairo-dock with the title < Maintenance Mode > appears. I can't access the cairo-dock unitl i close that window. Xkill of that window forces whole cairo-dock to be closed, but when i restart it, i have t [16:45] he same "bug" again, so theres no way for me to work with cairo-dock in a proper way. I have a VNC-Server installed and willing to let you watch my stuff. And can help me find the problem. Please message me. Thanks === catweazle_ is now known as catweazle [16:58] so noone of #cairo-dock,#ubuntu,#compiz-fusion,#ubuntu+1 has a soloution or an idea, why the configuration-window of cairo-dock titled < Maintenance Mode > pops up on every viewportswitch blocking cairo-dock mouse-access???? [17:02] * ForgeAus shrugs, I odn't do much gnome [17:05] You might try asking in #ubuntu since this channel is for Intrepid stuff [17:06] JontheEchidna: look at the channel list he allready did [17:06] cypherdelic, this is running ibex right? [17:06] s0u][ight: oh you're right, my bad [17:07] yup [17:07] cypherdelic, you have seen the /topic ? the part about 'total system failure' ? [17:07] ehm i dont know how this should be related to my problem [17:08] cypherdelic, as the final release is some two months away there may be one or two bugs yet. [17:08] cypherdelic: Only developers comfortable with recovering system from total system failure should use it. [17:09] s0u][ight: i read that in the topic again, and, what now, im able to read, what do you MEAN [17:09] i didnt ask for any recovery system or related to that [17:10] i have no total system failure [17:10] well why did you upgrade to intrepid [17:10] i have no time for this kind of smalltalk: for my favour, ok? [17:10] you should be able to deal with these kind of bugs when using alpha software [17:10] cypherdelic, you seem to be pasting this message in many many channels. [17:11] not anymore [17:11] worked i have new suggestions, can i proceed? [17:11] including many that should not be so pasted in. [17:11] ayne else finding that Compiz [17:11] ... [17:11] anyone else finding that Compiz fails to start on login? [17:11] metacity always ends up being the WM [17:11] and then i have to go to Appearance preferences and choose "Normal" [17:12] alex-weej: graphic card? [17:12] nvidia 177 [17:12] is it installed [17:12] ... [17:12] and selected in hardware dingsda [17:12] yes. [17:12] dont know the english term :D [17:12] never mind. [17:12] hm [17:13] restricted software [17:13] compiz works *fine* [17:13] i just have to enable it myself everytime i log in [17:13] alex-weej: $ glxinfo | grep direct [17:13] cypherdelic: you're not helping [17:13] is it yes? [17:13] oh ok [17:14] i don't mean to be rude [17:15] alex-weej: i did created an autostart launcher for fuion-icon [17:15] and selected compiz in there, so no idea about that stupid ubuntu appearece stuff, i dont use that [18:41] Does "System > Shutdown > * Anything" works for you. For me it doesn't. I have to logoff and shutdown via GDM. Can anyone proof it please? [18:45] cypherdelic: it will be fixed in alpha 5 [18:46] cypherdelic: been a bug on it since a2 [18:47] gnomefreak: ok thanks for that and i have a second one [18:48] gnomefreak: about system audio propierties, all the system bell stuff is greyed out, will that be fixed later too, cause i noticed this stuff is new [18:49] cypherdelic: not sure check LP for a bug on it [18:49] lp? [18:49] ok got it [18:50] !bugs [18:50] If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu - Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots [18:50] yes yes sorry [18:50] ok gone [19:13] i assume the ibex to be more intrepid than any other release if the developement keeps on at such a successs [19:14] thumbes up, my current alpha runs wuite well [19:14] im just with a kind of cheap high-class oem-pc [19:15] really an impression, the kernel and new nvidia is good either, im with geforce 7 onboard cashing 512mb from 4GB RAM [19:15] ;) === catweazle_ is now known as catweazle === echidnaman is now known as JontheEchidna [22:36] hi folks. would you recommend intrepid for daily use meantime? i wanna use kde 4.1 so i have to choose between hardy+kde4.1 packages vs intrepid [23:12] ctp: if you have to ask, wait for the beta :)