| hggdh | bdmurray, already sent it to ogasawara, did not notice he was online | 00:05 |
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| hggdh | thanks for the follow up | 00:05 |
| mrooney | can bugsquad edit descriptions/titles of bugs, or only bugcontrol? | 00:06 |
| nhandler | Anyone is able to edit bug descriptions/titles mrooney | 00:06 |
| bdmurray | mrooney: any one | 00:06 |
| mrooney | ah, thanks :) | 00:08 |
| * mrooney is responding to a bug control application | 00:08 | |
| nhandler | Who is the application for mrooney ? | 00:09 |
| mrooney | not yours :) | 00:10 |
| jjesse | wow havent checked ubuntu bug mail, holy messages from launchpad batman | 00:10 |
| nhandler | mrooney: I already got approved for Bug Control ;) | 00:11 |
| mrooney | nhandler: I figured! You had like 6 raving reviews :) | 00:11 |
| mrooney | I would have added one but it seemed like overkill at that point | 00:11 |
| nhandler | lol mrooney. | 00:12 |
| mrooney | But I am replying to Marcus's now | 00:12 |
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| mrooney | bdmurray: around by any chance? | 04:05 |
| anakron | Hi all | 04:11 |
| bdmurray | mrooney: what's up? I've got a minute or two to spare | 04:40 |
| mrooney | bdmurray: oh hi, I just found a bug that I thought might be up your alley | 04:41 |
| * mrooney searches... | 04:41 | |
| mrooney | bdmurray: bug 256071 | 04:41 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 256071 in firefox "Can't search for ubuntu package from search box" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/256071 | 04:41 |
| bdmurray | mrooney: hmm, I can't recreate it with intrepid | 04:44 |
| bdmurray | It might actually be firefox-launchpad-plugin not firefox | 04:45 |
| bdmurray | mrooney: do you have that installed? | 04:47 |
| mrooney | bdmurray: I don't know, this isn't the same machine I confirmed it on, I just did a sudo aptitude install firefox-2, so if it isn't depends or stock hardy, I don't think | 04:48 |
| bdmurray | hrm | 04:48 |
| mrooney | bdmurray: so you were using firefox 2 in Intrepid? | 04:49 |
| mrooney | maybe it was fixed there and the patch wasn't sent back | 04:49 |
| bdmurray | mrooney: okay, I'll look at it more tomorrow. thanks! | 04:50 |
| pheeror | is anybody working on fixing those minor flaws in intrepid dark theme? | 05:13 |
| persia | pheeror: You might check with #ubuntu-artwork, but I suspect so. | 05:15 |
| pheeror | the dark theme looks unbeatable with bunch of green-on-black terminals, gutsy-elephant-skin background on top of a old-fashioned thinkpad :-) | 05:19 |
| greg-g | that was an easy bug to mark as fix released. | 05:22 |
| mrooney | greg-g: which one is that? | 05:29 |
| greg-g | mrooney: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/257178 | 05:36 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 257178 in debian-edu "education-chemistry: fails to install: err 67: Custom distribution education does not exist" [High,Fix released] | 05:36 |
| greg-g | actually, now that I think about it, I wonder if we could backport it (or apply a patch that will make it work) for hardy | 05:37 |
| persia | Probably. Failure-to-install is often considered SRU-worthy (as it breaks upgrades) | 05:40 |
| greg-g | persia: well there we go. I've never dealt with that kind of request, what is the next (first) step? | 05:41 |
| persia | greg-g: There are two interesting paths: the bugfix and the bug management. | 05:41 |
| * greg-g looks for the SRU wiki page | 05:41 | |
| persia | Taking the latter first, you'll want to redescribe the bug in terms of test case, etc. Also, you'll want a Hardy task to track the status in Hardy. | 05:42 |
| greg-g | persia: ok | 05:42 |
| * greg-g changes description to include test case | 05:43 | |
| persia | Next, you'll want to investigate the bugfix. I'm guessing it's available (in part) from the debdiff between 0.825 and 0.826. Get someone to backport that to 0.822. | 05:43 |
| persia | After that, you just need a developer to upload, and someone to organise testing once it hits the SRU queue. | 05:43 |
| greg-g | persia: awesome. good overview, thanks. | 05:45 |
| persia | greg-g: Just in case you haven't already looked there, snapshot.debian.net can be a handy way to check specific changes in Debian packages. | 05:48 |
| greg-g | persia: ooo, I haven't seen that before, thanks again. | 05:49 |
| greg-g | from a quick look at the changelog, it looks like all that is needed is a change for the build depends to use cdd-dev >=4.7 from 4.4 | 05:56 |
| greg-g | but, Hardy only has 4.4 | 05:56 |
| greg-g | hrmm | 05:56 |
| persia | greg-g: Next would be to see what the change was for cdd-dev 4.7 | 05:57 |
| greg-g | * Build-Depends: cdd-dev (>= 0.4.7) | 06:01 |
| greg-g | Reason: The change in cdd to enable builds of Arch any for some CDDs leaded to the error that postinst/postrm files now contained | 06:01 |
| greg-g | two copies of the same code. This is fixed in cdd-dev 0.4.7 and thus debian-edu has to be rebuilded. | 06:01 |
| greg-g | that is why, I can dig deeper and see exactly what needs to change in cdd-dev to get that fix and only that fix | 06:02 |
| persia | So the problem is really in cdd-dev: debian-edu just needs a rebuild for a fixed cdd-dev. | 06:02 |
| greg-g | s/that is why,/that is the why./ | 06:02 |
| greg-g | right | 06:02 |
| persia | Right. The next step would be to identify the specific fix. At about this level of specificity, it's a good idea to either get a developer who is going to work on it, or decide to be that developer yourself. | 06:03 |
| persia | Otherwise, you've just agressively triaged the bug, and with appropriate comments, it ought be easy for a developer to pick it up, approve the Hardy task, and chase the SRU team. | 06:03 |
| greg-g | I would love to be that developer myself. We'll see how far I can get into figuring out the changes needed | 06:05 |
| greg-g | so, I guess I should change the affected package to cdd and re-tool the description. | 06:06 |
| persia | greg-g: Well, no. You'll want to add a cdd task, as there are two packages that need to be adjusted. | 06:10 |
| greg-g | ok | 06:11 |
| greg-g | good thing I was looking at the diff of cdd rather than messing with the bug | 06:11 |
| greg-g | the diff is really small for cdd_0.4.4 to 0.4.7 | 06:11 |
| persia | greg-g: Also, just as a note, when you get to the point that you know what patch you want to apply, if you're the developer, #ubuntu-motu is the place to chat about getting it applied. | 06:12 |
| greg-g | right right | 06:13 |
| persia | This being a good place for bug report through patch, but after that, it becomes less interesting to some people. | 06:13 |
| greg-g | thanks for the guidance persia | 06:13 |
| persia | greg-g: Thanks for chasing and fixing the bug :) | 06:13 |
| greg-g | 'tis what I'm here for ;) | 06:14 |
| kgoetz | hi all. i'm about to make a debdiff to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/clearsilver/+bug/86685 and i was wondering what i'm meant to tag it after i do so. is it ubuntu-universe-sponsors still? | 06:18 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 86685 in trac "trac BROKEN on AMD64: "neo_cgi.so: undefined symbol: Py_InitModule4"" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 06:18 |
| nellery | kgoetz, have a look at the tags page here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Tags | 06:19 |
| kgoetz | nellery: cheers | 06:19 |
| nellery | no problem :) | 06:19 |
| kgoetz | :) | 06:20 |
| persia | kgoetz: For a debdiff, the tags aren't so important, and #ubuntu-motu is probably a better forum. | 06:20 |
| persia | Specifically, if you seek sponsorship, you need to subscribe ubuntu-universe-sponsors | 06:20 |
| kgoetz | persia: thanks | 06:21 |
| dholbach | good morning | 06:43 |
| greg-g | morning dholbach | 06:45 |
| dholbach | heya greg-g | 06:45 |
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| kgoetz | persia: thanks, i've subscribed u-u-s | 06:55 |
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| Achim | hello I don't know if this is the right place but I would like to know if someone can help me with a bug report. | 12:25 |
| Achim | My problem is that there is a patch and a debdiff (hardy) available and nobody seems to be interested. | 12:25 |
| Achim | Maybe I have done something wrong? | 12:25 |
| Achim | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/253587 | 12:25 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 253587 in pulseaudio "default-server in client.conf doesn't get recognized" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 12:25 |
| Achim | ubottu, hey nice to see someone is taking care about this report. | 12:26 |
| ubottu | Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 12:26 |
| Achim | okay | 12:27 |
| techno_freak | Achim, as the bug is confirmed someone will look into the patch and test it out | 12:29 |
| Achim | techno_freak, I have confirmed the bug. At the moment it is more like a monologue. | 12:30 |
| techno_freak | Achim, it takes some time for people to respond, if not you can poke people back here after a few days | 12:30 |
| techno_freak | :) | 12:30 |
| techno_freak | Achim, and ubottu is a bot, it gives you information, especially on bugs when you specify `bug <number>` to it | 12:31 |
| persia | Achim: As you've a debdiff attached, you may want to subscribe the relevant sponsors queue (only the debdiff author should do this). In this case, it is ubuntu-main-sponsors. | 12:31 |
| Achim | I am the debdiff author. but I am not subscribed to the sponsors queue. Maybe I will take a look at the ubuntu-main-sponsors. | 12:34 |
| persia | Achim: Rather, subscribe the bug to the sponsors queue. You don't want to be a sponsor, you want one of the sponsors to notice your bug. | 12:39 |
| persia | You can ask more questions about getting sponsorship in #ubuntu-motu | 12:39 |
| Achim | thanks for your help. | 12:40 |
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| mcas_away | hellp | 14:14 |
| mcas_away | hello | 14:14 |
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| mcas | can someone please look at bug 257255 | 14:14 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 257255 in dosfstools "mkdosfs manpage default -F value incorrect" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/257255 | 14:14 |
| mcas | i think this could be set to triaged | 14:15 |
| pedro_ | mcas: if you reproduce it and can confirm, yes it could be triaged | 14:16 |
| mcas | i thought that if i can confirm it it could be set to confirmed... | 14:18 |
| pedro_ | so are you setting things to triaged without verified if that's a valid report? | 14:19 |
| mcas | i have no rights to set it triaged | 14:19 |
| pedro_ | m? why not? | 14:20 |
| mcas | because i am not member of bug control | 14:20 |
| pedro_ | mcas: please send an email to the bug control mailing list if you want to | 14:20 |
| pedro_ | I've seen you working in a lot of bugs | 14:20 |
| pedro_ | i thought you had the permissions | 14:21 |
| mcas | i sent the mail a few days ago and today i got an answer from mrooney | 14:21 |
| mcas | he wants to see some more bugs | 14:21 |
| pedro_ | mcas: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugControl <- | 14:21 |
| mcas | i wrote him a new email wiht some more bugs | 14:21 |
| pedro_ | alright i haven't looked to the list... | 14:22 |
| mcas | there were problems with the list administration so i sent the new mail directly to mike | 14:23 |
| mcas | the other mail was sent directly to brian | 14:23 |
| mcas | so pedro_ about this special bug.. i thought if i set it to triaged the bug report has all information needed and confirmed is set if i can reproduce the problem | 14:27 |
| mcas | please correct me | 14:27 |
| mcas | pedro_: because i am not sure with this i am asking here ;-) | 14:27 |
| pedro_ | mcas: yes, that's correct | 14:29 |
| mcas | i think we have all informations about this bug, but i can't reproduce it with my 128mb usb stick | 14:30 |
| mcas | there i have an fat16 header | 14:30 |
| pedro_ | well in that case i prefer to not set that to triaged and wait for someone to confirm it first | 14:31 |
| pedro_ | it could be a non valid report | 14:32 |
| mcas | ok | 14:33 |
| bddebian | Boo | 14:39 |
| pedro_ | buu | 14:42 |
| bddebian | :-) | 14:42 |
| tuxmaniac | can someone help with triaging this bug 123765. I think it isnt a valid bug since US keyboard settings works fine and in Brazilian KBD settings the " and ' could be mapped to some other key. | 14:48 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 123765 in scilab "scilab keyboard " and ' input result in Â" and Â'" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/123765 | 14:48 |
| tuxmaniac | oops missed out the "please" | 14:48 |
| tuxmaniac | :) | 14:48 |
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| bdmurray | pedro_: bug 257347 is my gnome-terminal crash | 17:20 |
| ubottu | Bug 257347 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/257347 is private | 17:20 |
| emgent | bdmurray: can you subscribe me too ? | 17:20 |
| bdmurray | emgent: you should be able to see it based on being in bugcontrol | 17:21 |
| pedro_ | bdmurray: ok, thanks | 17:21 |
| emgent | bdmurray: i cant. | 17:21 |
| pedro_ | mm i'm getting a "Not allowed here" | 17:21 |
| emgent | Not allowed here | 17:21 |
| emgent | Sorry, you don't have permission to access this page. | 17:21 |
| emgent | You are logged in as Emanuele Gentili. | 17:21 |
| bdmurray | I'm looking into it | 17:22 |
| bdmurray | Oh right the retracer hasn't gotten to it yet | 17:22 |
| bdmurray | pedro_: you are subscribed now | 17:24 |
| pedro_ | there's no hurry we can wait ;-). btw based on your description of yesterday it could be a dup of bug 256769 | 17:24 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 256769 in vte "gnome-terminal crashed with SIGSEGV in vte_terminal_extend_selection()" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/256769 | 17:24 |
| pedro_ | bdmurray: rock will look | 17:24 |
| pedro_ | yes it indeed looks like a dup of it, will wait for the retrace just in case of | 17:25 |
| pedro_ | thanks bdmurray | 17:25 |
| bdmurray | pedro_: thanks for pointing me at the master | 17:26 |
| bdmurray | pedro_: for a while I've no places "run" menu item and pressing alt+f2 does nothing what package would that be? | 17:28 |
| bdmurray | bug 257323 | 17:29 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 257323 in ubuntu "Ubuntu 8.04 CD emits smoke from DVD drive" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/257323 | 17:29 |
| hggdh | wow, cool | 17:30 |
| bdmurray | maybe some chemicals on the CD? | 17:30 |
| pedro_ | bdmurray: ah that's gnome-panel | 17:30 |
| bdmurray | pedro_: hmm, I wonder why it is missing then | 17:30 |
| pedro_ | bdmurray: are you running intrepid? it's working for me with it | 17:31 |
| hggdh | perhaps, but it is doubtful... more probably the unit burnt something (a capacitor?) | 17:31 |
| bdmurray | pedro_: it's been like this since Hardy at least | 17:32 |
| pedro_ | bdmurray: maybe something else is disabling the keys? | 17:34 |
| pedro_ | ie: bug 200540 | 17:35 |
| bdmurray | maybe but the menu item doesn't even show up | 17:35 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 200540 in linux "Run Application (Alt-F2) No longer works in Kernel 2.6.24.12" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/200540 | 17:35 |
| pedro_ | bdmurray: ah that's ok, the Run application menu was removed during the 2.11.X cycle IIRC | 17:38 |
| chrisccoulson | not sure how to respond to this: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/257323 | 17:53 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 257323 in ubuntu "Ubuntu 8.04 CD emits smoke from DVD drive" [Undecided,New] | 17:53 |
| chrisccoulson | :S | 17:53 |
| hggdh | chrisccoulson, the only options I can imagine are: (1) a really, really, bad CD (but it should have smoked a LOT when burning), or a faulty drive | 18:04 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, thanks for that. it's very unfortunate that it happened with his Ubuntu CD | 18:06 |
| chrisccoulson | we spoke about this bug a little while ago on here because I wasn't sure what other information to ask from the reporter: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-system-tools/+bug/240437 | 18:13 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 240437 in gnome-system-tools "Users-admin fails with AMD-K6 processor" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 18:13 |
| chrisccoulson | james_w made the suggestion of monitoring dbus activity as a start, but I said I was unsuccessful with this when I tried it on my machine, and then it all went a bit quiet I think | 18:14 |
| chrisccoulson | i tried contacting the developer of system-tools-backends to see if he had any suggestions, and i got no response :? | 18:14 |
| chrisccoulson | and now a second person is claiming that they are seeing the same behaviour | 18:15 |
| chrisccoulson | any ideas? | 18:15 |
| hggdh | another one?? | 18:15 |
| hggdh | then chances are faulty CD disk | 18:15 |
| hggdh | a faulty batch of them | 18:15 |
| chrisccoulson | i suppose that could be a possibility | 18:15 |
| chrisccoulson | it would be nice to be able to debug this though, just in case there might be something else | 18:16 |
| hggdh | chrisccoulson, one chance would be to verify when the CD requests were made, and try to backtrack to a CD disc batch | 18:16 |
| hggdh | then get one of these CD discs, and try on | 18:17 |
| chrisccoulson | ah! i think we're confused now | 18:17 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm talking about a different bug;) | 18:17 |
| hggdh | well, I am | 18:17 |
| chrisccoulson | https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-system-tools/+bug/240437 | 18:17 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 240437 in gnome-system-tools "Users-admin fails with AMD-K6 processor" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 18:17 |
| chrisccoulson | ^^^that one;) | 18:17 |
| hggdh | completely different... | 18:17 |
| hggdh | let me see this one... blame my old age | 18:18 |
| chrisccoulson | lol | 18:18 |
| chrisccoulson | it was discussed on here a few weeks ago, and then it went a bit quiet | 18:18 |
| chrisccoulson | and now a second person is saying that users-admin trashes their /etc/passwd file as well | 18:18 |
| chrisccoulson | and it has a duplicate | 18:19 |
| chrisccoulson | or it did earlier:/ | 18:19 |
| hggdh | I do remember something about user-admin doing that, but it was not related to a specific architecture | 18:51 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, i think the architecture in the title is just a red herring | 18:51 |
| hggdh | ah | 18:52 |
| hggdh | I remember now | 18:52 |
| chrisccoulson | i might edit the architecture out of it actually | 18:52 |
| hggdh | by default -- keep in mind Gnome is all about making the user experience simpler, with less options | 18:52 |
| hggdh | users-admin will *NOT* show users below 1000, and groups below 100 | 18:52 |
| chrisccoulson | i don't think that is the issue with this bug report though | 18:54 |
| hggdh | there is a gconf2 key dealing with that, let me see if I remember it | 18:54 |
| chrisccoulson | the problem is that the reporter claims their /etc/passwd file was hosed after using users-admin | 18:54 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, there's a gconf key for toggling displaying of users below UID 1000 | 18:54 |
| chrisccoulson | /apps/gnome-system-tools/users/showall | 18:55 |
| hggdh | thats it | 18:55 |
| hggdh | not only uid, but also gid | 18:55 |
| hggdh | a boolean | 18:55 |
| hggdh | this, in turn, seems like an issue with g-s-t, a real one (and, again, this has happened before) | 18:56 |
| hggdh | look at the changelog for g-s-t | 18:56 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm not sure whether bug 240437 is an issue with g-s-t or system-tools-backends though. | 18:56 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 240437 in gnome-system-tools "Users-admin fails with AMD-K6 processor" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/240437 | 18:56 |
| nellery | afternoon | 20:34 |
| bdmurray | howdy | 20:34 |
| Ampelbein | Hi! Could some experienced user check on Bug 255826 and tell me if I done the examination in the correct way? Thank you. | 21:45 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 255826 in xserver-xorg-video-savage "scrolling in Firefox causes Xorg-process to lag (S3 Savage driver)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/255826 | 21:45 |
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| MasterPa | Hey everyone, i've got a question about a bug in the ubuntu kernel. can anyone help? | 22:13 |
| Ampelbein | Sorry to ask again, but could some experienced user check on Bug 255826 and tell me if I done the examination in the correct way? Thank you. | 22:51 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 255826 in xserver-xorg-video-savage "scrolling in Firefox causes Xorg-process to lag (S3 Savage driver)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/255826 | 22:51 |
| bdmurray | Ampelbein: you might check in #ubuntu-x as there are X specific triagers there | 22:52 |
| bdmurray | That one sounds like a duplicate to me. You might look for other xorg bugs like that | 22:54 |
| Ampelbein | I already looked at other bugs, but could not find a similar one with the savage-driver. | 22:54 |
| bdmurray | I don't think it is driver specific | 22:54 |
| Ampelbein | I'll ask in #ubuntu-x, thanks for the hint. | 22:54 |
| Ampelbein | And I'll go have a look on other bugs. | 22:55 |
| mrooney | bdmurray: is the bugcontrol list working alright for subscribers? or should I copy you? | 23:44 |
| bdmurray | its only non-member postings that are problematic | 23:45 |
| bdmurray | so you should be good! | 23:45 |
| mrooney | alright thanks, I'll give it a shot | 23:48 |
| mrooney | bdmurray: did my original reply come through okay, for mcas's application? | 23:57 |
| mrooney | okay, the archive appears to have it. | 23:58 |
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