| asac | fine | 00:08 |
|---|---|---|
| asac | good news ;) | 00:08 |
| asac | one merge thing less | 00:08 |
| fta | "People in most markets Lenovo serves, including Singapore, China and the UK, will be offered the company's new IdeaPad S10 with either Microsoft Windows XP or a Linux OS, but Australian and US computer buyers will only be offered Windows XP according to Lenovo." | 00:11 |
| fta | asac, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=306324#c5 | 00:51 |
| ubottu | Mozilla bug 306324 in Build Config "Build/run Thunderbird on top of XULRunner" [Normal,New] | 00:51 |
| cwillu | that's weird | 06:25 |
| cwillu | I've got a whole lot of images from lhttp://www.boingboing.net/compresized/*.jpg | 06:26 |
| cwillu | in my cache | 06:26 |
| cwillu | that have apparently been fetches within the last minute | 06:26 |
| cwillu | fetched, rather | 06:26 |
| cwillu | however, I haven't look at that page in a good week (I remember it, it was a list of really old magazine computer ads) | 06:27 |
| cwillu | they're showing up in about:cache?device=memory | 06:27 |
| gnomefreak | !freenode | 08:42 |
| ubottu | freenode is the IRC network that you're on! See http://freenode.net/faq.shtml | 08:42 |
| XioNoX | hi ! | 09:17 |
| gnomefreak | asac: bug 136303 is this something we are willing to change in default tbird package? | 09:19 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 136303 in mozilla-thunderbird "[Gutsy] Thunderbird doesn't open http link in firefox" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/136303 | 09:19 |
| asac | hi | 09:20 |
| gnomefreak | morning ;) | 09:21 |
| asac | hi gnomefreak | 09:21 |
| asac | that bug should work ;) | 09:21 |
| gnomefreak | asac: you want a autologin bug on n-m? | 09:22 |
| asac | marked bug wont fix | 09:23 |
| asac | gnomefreak: which? | 09:23 |
| gnomefreak | bug 155294 | 09:23 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 155294 in network-manager "It is not possible to disable the keychain password entry dialog for accessing a WLAN when auto-login is enabled" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/155294 | 09:23 |
| gnomefreak | asac: not sure if wee support autologin to begin with | 09:24 |
| XioNoX | asac, hve you seen the screenshots yesterday ? | 09:24 |
| asac | XioNoX: the double border thing? | 09:27 |
| XioNoX | yes, and i've list the différent case, depending of the xbl file | 09:28 |
| XioNoX | with or without the <children/> element | 09:28 |
| XioNoX | and the location of the div | 09:29 |
| asac | XioNoX: hmm. so unsupported doesnt work at all? | 09:30 |
| XioNoX | unsupported work, supported work partially (there are 2 frames) if we put the <children/> element | 09:31 |
| XioNoX | but only on the adobe page | 09:31 |
| XioNoX | on youtube for exemple it don't work for supported | 09:31 |
| asac | XioNoX: strange thing. can you try just to "match" object? | 09:31 |
| asac | ' | 09:31 |
| XioNoX | match ? | 09:32 |
| asac | in .css | 09:32 |
| gnomefreak | finally got to my gedit crash bug, only a month later (and it still crashes when it likes) | 09:32 |
| asac | XioNoX: you said that flashbock? did it differently | 09:34 |
| asac | how? | 09:34 |
| XioNoX | adblock plus | 09:34 |
| XioNoX | i don't really know, because the source is really complicated | 09:35 |
| XioNoX | I think too complicated to implement it on ubufox | 09:36 |
| XioNoX | and for something we don't know if everybody will agree | 09:37 |
| XioNoX | but the adblock method works well for all the flash content | 09:38 |
| asac | XioNoX: they display a frame, right? | 09:45 |
| XioNoX | what ? | 09:45 |
| XioNoX | what do you thin about this : http://pastebin.mozilla.org/512850 ? | 09:46 |
| XioNoX | come from flash block | 09:46 |
| gandi | hi guys | 09:48 |
| asac | # | 09:48 |
| asac | object | 09:48 |
| asac | # | 09:48 |
| asac | # | 09:48 |
| asac | { -moz-binding: url("chrome://flashblock/content/flashblock.xml#brokenobject") !important; } | 09:48 |
| asac | they do this | 09:48 |
| gandi | XioNoX, asac: any help I can give you? | 09:48 |
| XioNoX | it works | 09:49 |
| asac | XioNoX: so "just" object in .css works | 09:49 |
| asac | thats good enough for us | 09:49 |
| XioNoX | it is better than : embed, applet, object { | 09:49 |
| XioNoX | -moz-binding: url('chrome://ubufox/content/alternatePlugins.xml#missingPlugin') !important; | 09:49 |
| asac | "embed" is most likely a .xbl thing on its own which uses object | 09:49 |
| XioNoX | no ? | 09:49 |
| XioNoX | because it more targeting the content | 09:49 |
| asac | yes | 09:49 |
| asac | object { | 09:50 |
| asac | 10:49 < XioNoX> -moz-binding: url('chrome://ubufox/content/alternatePlugins.xml#missingPlugin') !important; | 09:50 |
| asac | if that works | 09:50 |
| asac | use it ;) | 09:50 |
| XioNoX | ok | 09:50 |
| XioNoX | it works the same way, for flash or director, but i have the sames issues | 09:51 |
| XioNoX | so i think it come from the xbl | 09:51 |
| * gnomefreak thinks i fixed firegpg but will look later since its not 5am yet | 09:53 | |
| asac | XioNoX: can you publish your current best code in bzr please | 09:56 |
| asac | I'd like to try | 09:56 |
| asac | ;) | 09:56 |
| XioNoX | asac, http://pastebin.mozilla.org/512852 here is the xbl of flashblock, it using only JS | 09:56 |
| asac | XioNoX: well. thats flashblock ;) | 09:59 |
| XioNoX | i know :D | 09:59 |
| XioNoX | i push the code on bzr | 09:59 |
| asac | ok | 09:59 |
| asac | url? | 09:59 |
| asac | XioNoX: ? | 10:02 |
| XioNoX | not finish yet :D | 10:02 |
| asac | ah | 10:02 |
| asac | ;) | 10:03 |
| XioNoX | https://code.launchpad.net/~xionox/ubufox/ubufox.altplugins | 10:05 |
| asac | XioNoX: so on what page would thta work? | 10:13 |
| XioNoX | http://www.adobe.com/fr/shockwave/welcome/ | 10:14 |
| XioNoX | here you can check 2 mimetype | 10:14 |
| gandi | re | 10:25 |
| XioNoX | re! | 10:25 |
| asac | XioNoX: ok. so even with these .css rules it doesnt work anywhere except on adobe pages? | 10:29 |
| XioNoX | yes | 10:29 |
| asac | i dont see any atler :/ | 10:30 |
| asac | alert | 10:30 |
| gandi | asac: if you'll need my assistance with helping Xionox, let me know | 10:32 |
| XioNoX | alert works for me when we click on a frame | 10:33 |
| asac | XioNoX: you need to add "components" to the ROOT_DIRS in config_build.sh | 10:38 |
| asac | otherwise the pluginGlue.js is not included | 10:38 |
| asac | in .xpi | 10:38 |
| asac | XioNoX: according to dom inspector that style is attached to the element | 10:41 |
| XioNoX | ? | 10:41 |
| asac | (on youtube) | 10:41 |
| asac | the border appears to be not visible | 10:41 |
| asac | not sure if that means that its hidden | 10:41 |
| asac | or that it doesnt work | 10:41 |
| asac | install firefox-dom-inspector package | 10:41 |
| asac | (if you are testing with ubuntu build) | 10:42 |
| XioNoX | ok | 10:43 |
| XioNoX | so we can try with hidden=false | 10:43 |
| XioNoX | ? | 10:43 |
| asac | not sure | 10:44 |
| asac | let me play around | 10:45 |
| XioNoX | it si why the html:div is in red ? | 10:46 |
| gnomefreak | Jazzva: its fixed im gonna build it for PPA to update with fixes. both branchs are fixed as well. thanks for the testing | 10:50 |
| gnomefreak | asac: should short description end with a : ? | 10:53 |
| gnomefreak | or long start with one? | 10:53 |
| asac | XioNoX: i think its read because its "xbl'ed" at runtime | 10:54 |
| asac | gnomefreak: most likely not | 10:54 |
| asac | gnomefreak: cant`t tell without looking at case though | 10:54 |
| gnomefreak | dpkg-checkbuilddeps: error: syntax error in debian/control at line 15: line with unknown format (not field-colon-value) | 10:54 |
| gnomefreak | maybe shouldnt be indented | 10:54 |
| gnomefreak | nope not it | 10:55 |
| gnomefreak | asac: here is the control file http://pastebin.mozilla.org/512886 | 10:57 |
| gnomefreak | i dont see anything there that looks wrong | 10:59 |
| asac | XioNoX: so ... maybe the embed thing prevents it to be displayed | 11:01 |
| asac | XioNoX: can you try to open the alert whenever the element is loaded please | 11:01 |
| asac | instead of clicking? | 11:01 |
| XioNoX | I've try, but i don't know how to do that. Event on xbl don't allow to do it | 11:02 |
| huats | May I ask a question : I've seen in bug 180384 that mozilla-traybiff was FTBFS | 11:03 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 180384 in mozilla-traybiff "Please merge mozilla-traybiff 1.2.3-4 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180384 | 11:03 |
| huats | looking if I can fix that I don't clearly understand the situation of mozilla-traybiff | 11:03 |
| huats | according LP, it is in intrepid | 11:03 |
| huats | but I am not able to find it using apt | 11:04 |
| huats | :( | 11:04 |
| gnomefreak | huats: its not in INtrepid archives | 11:04 |
| huats | gnomefreak: from my understanding of :https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mozilla-traybiff it is... | 11:04 |
| huats | that is why I am confused... | 11:05 |
| gnomefreak | huats: most likely it need a manual merge. DAD will tell you, but i dont remmeber link to DAD, motu people would have link | 11:05 |
| huats | I have the link... | 11:05 |
| huats | :) | 11:05 |
| huats | gnomefreak: thanks | 11:05 |
| gnomefreak | huats: wait | 11:06 |
| huats | ok | 11:06 |
| gnomefreak | huats: that may be held back due to freeze | 11:06 |
| huats | I know | 11:06 |
| gnomefreak | but ask in motu what happened | 11:06 |
| huats | In fact I was more confused by state that it seems to be in intrepid, but it is not | 11:07 |
| huats | that was my question :) | 11:07 |
| huats | gnomefreak: thanks! | 11:07 |
| gnomefreak | np | 11:07 |
| gnomefreak | huats: looks like a dependency issue | 11:08 |
| gnomefreak | huats: look at the right of https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/mozilla-traybiff/1.2.3-4.1 | 11:08 |
| huats | gnomefreak: yes | 11:10 |
| huats | a pb with icedove... | 11:10 |
| Jazzva | gnomefreak, solved the problem with control file? | 11:13 |
| gnomefreak | Jazzva: the above error no | 11:14 |
| gnomefreak | i dont see a : nor did i ever remeber one being there | 11:15 |
| Jazzva | gnomefreak, try with this (the highlighted lines) http://pastebin.mozilla.org/512905 | 11:15 |
| gnomefreak | the VCS line has to be broken up its more than 80 chars | 11:17 |
| asac | XioNoX: ok | 11:17 |
| Jazzva | that doesn't matter for all lines, but only for those that will be presented to the user (copyright file, description...) | 11:17 |
| Jazzva | gnomefreak ^ | 11:17 |
| XioNoX | asac, xbl handler allow only key & mouse | 11:18 |
| * gnomefreak gives up on what needs to be <80 and > 80 | 11:18 | |
| asac | XioNoX: http://paste.ubuntu.com/36800/ | 11:19 |
| asac | apply that and start fro there | 11:19 |
| gnomefreak | Jazzva: no it didnt fix it | 11:19 |
| Jazzva | gnomefreak, I think just the things that will be presented to a user | 11:19 |
| Jazzva | hmm... strange | 11:19 |
| asac | XioNoX: actually we can even dump the html:div | 11:19 |
| gnomefreak | Jazzva: all you did was indent the long | 11:20 |
| asac | the idea is to use the <constructor> code | 11:20 |
| XioNoX | ok | 11:20 |
| XioNoX | like flashblock ? | 11:20 |
| asac | to send out events about "pluginUsed" | 11:20 |
| asac | XioNoX: apply the patch | 11:20 |
| Jazzva | gnomefreak, ah... the short description must be in one line | 11:20 |
| asac | ;) | 11:20 |
| gnomefreak | Jazzva: although now its line 14 | 11:20 |
| Jazzva | I'm not sure about the rule for it... | 11:20 |
| gnomefreak | Jazzva: that doesnt meet 80 char rule | 11:20 |
| gnomefreak | thats why its on 2 lines | 11:21 |
| gnomefreak | and that makes sence since it built fine before changing it | 11:21 |
| gnomefreak | lets find out | 11:21 |
| gnomefreak | Jazzva: space between long and short? | 11:22 |
| XioNoX | asac, how do y apply the diff ? | 11:22 |
| Jazzva | try putting it on one line :). sorry for the "80 chars rule". I try to make thing presented to user break at 80 char if I can :) | 11:23 |
| Jazzva | gnomefreak, space? you mean an empty line? that's not needed... | 11:23 |
| gnomefreak | ok | 11:23 |
| gnomefreak | oh fuck | 11:23 |
| gnomefreak | control is fixed now rules error | 11:23 |
| gnomefreak | Jazzva: debian/rules:21: *** missing separator. Stop | 11:24 |
| Jazzva | gnomefreak, please paste it | 11:24 |
| gnomefreak | build/firegpg:: chmod a-x+X components/FireGPGCall.dll | 11:24 |
| gnomefreak | what should be used as seperater | 11:25 |
| Jazzva | put "chmod ..." on a new line | 11:25 |
| gnomefreak | http://pastebin.mozilla.org/512907 | 11:25 |
| gnomefreak | Jazzva: it is | 11:25 |
| gnomefreak | Jazzva: just irc put it on one line | 11:25 |
| gnomefreak | im thinking a ; is needed but not sure | 11:26 |
| gnomefreak | after *dll | 11:26 |
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| Jazzva | gnomefreak, the space before "chmod" should be a tab. If you copy/pasted it, it might be formed of spaces instead... | 11:26 |
| Jazzva | gnomefreak, so check that | 11:26 |
| Jazzva | and you can also put ";" at the end of the line, but it should be ok like this too... | 11:27 |
| gnomefreak | ok give me a few need to update changelog | 11:27 |
| gnomefreak | no i dont its all there | 11:28 |
| gnomefreak | ha | 11:28 |
| gnomefreak | Jazzva: thanks it worked | 11:28 |
| Jazzva | no problem :) | 11:29 |
| gnomefreak | i have to update bzr but im waiting for any other errors | 11:29 |
| Jazzva | actually... you can change the "a-x+X" in chmod just to "a-x" | 11:29 |
| gnomefreak | too late | 11:32 |
| asac | XioNoX: download to file | 11:32 |
| asac | change to ubufox dir | 11:32 |
| gnomefreak | it really shouldnt matter at all | 11:32 |
| asac | patch -p0 < /tmp/file.diff | 11:32 |
| asac | (if the file is called /tmp/file.diff) | 11:32 |
| XioNoX | ok | 11:32 |
| XioNoX | i've done it manually :D | 11:32 |
| XioNoX | but I save that ;) | 11:33 |
| asac | XioNoX: err | 11:33 |
| asac | please apply directly | 11:33 |
| asac | otherwise you might have missed something ;) | 11:33 |
| asac | at least i wouldnt trust myself ;) | 11:33 |
| gnomefreak | ok breakfast . bzr branches are updated and fixed and pushing to PPA atm | 11:33 |
| asac | but well ... as long as your .css is short, and the alert pops up it should be fine | 11:34 |
| asac | gnomefreak: please ping in bug | 11:34 |
| gnomefreak | asac: what bug? | 11:34 |
| XioNoX | it should be ok :D but it is normal that my firefox is freezing on the adobe webpage ? | 11:34 |
| asac | gnomefreak: or give me direct branch names ;) | 11:34 |
| gnomefreak | oh | 11:34 |
| asac | gnomefreak: i forget what you are working on ;) | 11:34 |
| gnomefreak | firegpg | 11:34 |
| asac | gnomefreak: if you update bug: says: "ready! | 11:34 |
| asac | i will see it in my extension mailbox | 11:34 |
| gnomefreak | ok | 11:34 |
| asac | which i try to follow up on regularly | 11:34 |
| asac | ;) | 11:34 |
| asac | gnomefreak: full branch name would be appreciated ;) | 11:35 |
| gnomefreak | it will have it | 11:35 |
| asac | of your and the "release" branch | 11:35 |
| asac | gnomefreak: sure | 11:35 |
| gnomefreak | you want LP links or the bzr branch..... | 11:35 |
| asac | gnomefreak: hmm ... please try to do a "merge request" | 11:35 |
| asac | in launchpad | 11:36 |
| asac | i'd like to test that feature | 11:36 |
| gnomefreak | with what? | 11:36 |
| asac | we should receive mails | 11:36 |
| gnomefreak | i get mails for it | 11:36 |
| gnomefreak | asac: tested a while ago | 11:36 |
| XioNoX | asac, i get the alert, but if i refresh the page it crash of freeze :( | 11:37 |
| gnomefreak | asac: i would need branches to merge to | 11:37 |
| asac | gnomefreak: ah ... ok firegpg isnt uploaded yet? | 11:38 |
| asac | there is no RELEASE branch from what i can see | 11:38 |
| gnomefreak | but update bug 227945 | 11:38 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 227945 in firegpg "[needs packaging] Please package FireGPG extension for Firefox " [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/227945 | 11:38 |
| XioNoX | segfault | 11:38 |
| gnomefreak | asac: no this is new | 11:38 |
| asac | XioNoX: are you on 3.1 ? | 11:38 |
| XioNoX | 3.0 | 11:38 |
| gnomefreak | asac: lso find them in my PPA if needed | 11:38 |
| asac | XioNoX: for me it doesnt | 11:39 |
| gnomefreak | also | 11:39 |
| asac | XioNoX: maybe apply my patch for real ;) | 11:39 |
| gnomefreak | ok breakfast now | 11:39 |
| XioNoX | asac, it seem that it is NSPlugin Wrapper who are crashing | 11:39 |
| asac | gnomefreak: didnt base the .ubuntu branch on the .upstream branch | 11:40 |
| asac | what did you do? | 11:40 |
| asac | you need to start with .upstream branch | 11:40 |
| asac | then add packaging | 11:40 |
| asac | (which is revision 1 in your ubuntu branch, but should be revision 2) | 11:41 |
| gnomefreak | when i did it that way it failed | 11:41 |
| asac | no | 11:41 |
| gnomefreak | i fixed it to have files | 11:41 |
| gnomefreak | asac: yes it did | 11:41 |
| asac | thats wrong | 11:41 |
| asac | we cannot use it that way | 11:41 |
| gnomefreak | Jazzva: informed me of it | 11:41 |
| asac | unfortunately | 11:41 |
| asac | the procedure is outlined on the Packaging page in wiki | 11:42 |
| gnomefreak | oh well | 11:42 |
| asac | you start with upstream branch | 11:42 |
| asac | then copy debian/ directory from XPI.TEMPLATE | 11:42 |
| asac | and adapt the files accordingly | 11:42 |
| XioNoX | even with your patch it is crashing | 11:42 |
| asac | XioNoX: where? | 11:42 |
| asac | on youtube? | 11:42 |
| XioNoX | on youtube it is freezing | 11:44 |
| XioNoX | i don't see the popup | 11:44 |
| XioNoX | ok http://www.t45ol.com/ we can see the alert but it crashing | 11:44 |
| asac | XioNoX: remve the surrounding div elements | 11:45 |
| asac | we dont need them | 11:45 |
| asac | so content just contains children | 11:45 |
| asac | that works for me | 11:45 |
| asac | otherwise the alert freezes | 11:45 |
| asac | (though i can close it using the X window closer) | 11:45 |
| XioNoX | still crashing | 11:46 |
| XioNoX | still freezing on youtube | 11:46 |
| XioNoX | yave you try with 3.0 ? | 11:47 |
| XioNoX | or do you wan't that I try with 3.1 ? | 11:47 |
| gnomefreak | asac: just becausqe revision 1 doesnt say initial release its not usable? | 11:48 |
| asac | no ... i am running 3.0.1 install | 11:48 |
| asac | gnomefreak: he? | 11:48 |
| asac | no | 11:48 |
| asac | gnomefreak: because the .ubuntu branch is not based on .upstream branch its not usable | 11:48 |
| gnomefreak | yes that is it since there is nothing wrong with branch it has files it should have | 11:48 |
| asac | we wont be able to merge in future | 11:48 |
| gnomefreak | asac: yes it is | 11:48 |
| asac | gnomefreak: no | 11:49 |
| gnomefreak | when i fixed it i had to redo it all today | 11:49 |
| asac | gnomefreak: if it was the commit log of rev 1 would be identical | 11:49 |
| asac | maybe you copied files by hand | 11:49 |
| asac | but you surely didnt start to create the .ubuntu branch by using the real .upsream branch | 11:49 |
| gnomefreak | asac: i did after getting upstream from branch | 11:49 |
| gnomefreak | look at time stamps on branches | 11:49 |
| asac | gnomefreak: you _must_ not copy by hand | 11:49 |
| asac | gnomefreak: to create .ubuntu you do: | 11:50 |
| asac | bzr branch lp......upstream | 11:50 |
| asac | cd .....upstream | 11:50 |
| gnomefreak | asac: why not since itt was already done from XPI | 11:50 |
| asac | cp -r /tmp/XPI.TEMPALTE/debian . | 11:50 |
| gnomefreak | asac: this was started a month or so ago | 11:50 |
| asac | bzr commit -m "* first .ubuntu commit, which is the second commit on the brancH" | 11:50 |
| gnomefreak | it was from XPI but had to put it aside to fix the failure to install bug | 11:51 |
| asac | gnomefreak: you start with .upstream | 11:51 |
| gnomefreak | yes | 11:51 |
| asac | then copy the files from XPI.TEMPLATE by hand into it | 11:51 |
| asac | commit that as second revision | 11:51 |
| gnomefreak | yes | 11:51 |
| asac | yes, but you didnt do that | 11:51 |
| asac | look at bzr log | 11:51 |
| asac | you started with XPI.TEMPALTE | 11:52 |
| asac | copied .upstream files into it | 11:52 |
| asac | (if you did that at all) | 11:52 |
| asac | most likely you just created a directory, copied the .upstream and the XPI.TEMPALTE into it and committed that together as first revision | 11:52 |
| asac | gnomefreak: since you did it one out ago, just redo .... follow the instructions i gave above | 11:53 |
| gnomefreak | i have no need to commit an empty XPITEMPLATE | 11:53 |
| asac | feel free to modifiy the files before doing the first .ubuntu commit | 11:53 |
| asac | but start with .upstream | 11:53 |
| asac | and commit on top of that | 11:53 |
| asac | first revision _must_ be identical to upstream branch | 11:53 |
| gnomefreak | wait i think i know what happened | 11:54 |
| gnomefreak | let me guess ubuntu branch doesnt contain upstream files? | 11:54 |
| gnomefreak | that is because i left them out when i pushed | 11:54 |
| gnomefreak | damnit | 11:55 |
| asac | gnomefreak: no | 11:55 |
| gnomefreak | oh good | 11:55 |
| asac | follow the instructions above | 11:55 |
| asac | you have to start with .upstream | 11:55 |
| asac | then copy the XPI.TEMPLATE files into it | 11:55 |
| asac | modify them | 11:55 |
| asac | commit | 11:55 |
| armin76 | and bumb | 11:55 |
| asac | (this is revision 2 then) | 11:56 |
| gnomefreak | but the files i already had were based on it :( | 11:56 |
| gnomefreak | cant be revision 2 | 11:56 |
| gnomefreak | im not commiting/pushing empty XPI.TEMPLATE | 11:56 |
| gnomefreak | so it would be revision 1 that has all files included | 11:57 |
| gnomefreak | hence redoing it the same way i did it | 11:57 |
| asac | gnomefreak: hey | 11:57 |
| asac | first revision is the .upstream commit | 11:57 |
| gnomefreak | but i will start all over and maybe have it done in a day or so | 11:57 |
| asac | so it _is_ second revision | 11:57 |
| gnomefreak | no | 11:57 |
| asac | gnomefreak: thats what i am telling you | 11:58 |
| asac | you _must_ start with .upstream branch | 11:58 |
| gnomefreak | why .upstream is another branch | 11:58 |
| asac | which already contains one commit | 11:58 |
| asac | gnomefreak: yes, but .upstream is the parent branch for .ubuntu | 11:58 |
| asac | they are not indpendent | 11:58 |
| armin76 | asac: why not bumb! | 11:58 |
| asac | gnomefreak: you did them independent, which makes them useless | 11:58 |
| asac | as we cannot do bzr merge then | 11:58 |
| gnomefreak | yes i know but revisions dont skip from brnch o branch | 11:58 |
| asac | gnomefreak: try and see it yourself ;) | 11:59 |
| gnomefreak | so 1 still wont be .upstream unless i push it beore gettingXPI | 11:59 |
| asac | gnomefreak: just follow the instructions on wiki blindly | 11:59 |
| asac | that will work | 11:59 |
| XioNoX | asac, i've find why it is freezing. The popup didn't show up but it is here, so i have juste to press space or enter | 12:04 |
| asac | XioNoX: hehe ;) | 12:04 |
| asac | XioNoX: maybe its hidden behind the main window? | 12:04 |
| XioNoX | no | 12:05 |
| XioNoX | we see it when we alt tab | 12:05 |
| asac | XioNoX: ok. did you drop the html:div yet? | 12:05 |
| XioNoX | but a soon a we select it, he disapear | 12:05 |
| XioNoX | yes | 12:05 |
| XioNoX | but i don't know why it is crashing | 12:05 |
| asac | XioNoX: just npviewer? | 12:06 |
| asac | are you on hardy? | 12:06 |
| XioNoX | yes | 12:06 |
| XioNoX | 64bits if it can help | 12:06 |
| asac | XioNoX: ok. i think there is a separate bug for nspluginwraper hanging | 12:07 |
| asac | XioNoX: is there a package ia32-libs installed? | 12:08 |
| XioNoX | yes | 12:08 |
| asac | can you please check whether it still ships libflashsupport ? | 12:08 |
| asac | e.g. dpkg -L ia32-libs | grep libflashsupp | 12:08 |
| XioNoX | We're going to eat | 12:09 |
| XioNoX | c u | 12:09 |
| XioNoX | asac, /usr/lib32/libflashsupport.so | 13:01 |
| asac | XioNoX: remove that | 13:08 |
| asac | or move it to a differnt directory ;) | 13:08 |
| asac | that might cause _more_ crashes ;) | 13:08 |
| asac | than flash does anyway | 13:08 |
| asac | and it deadlocks on shutdown, which might cause the freezage you saw | 13:08 |
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| asac | Jazzva: ^^ ...the above might be responsible for the "grey" on reload thing on amd64 | 13:10 |
| asac | not sure though if libflashsupport.so is still included in intrepid ia32-libs package though | 13:11 |
| asac | Jazzva: if you are back, please let me know ;) | 13:11 |
| XioNoX | asac, even with rm libflashsupport.so it crash | 13:11 |
| XioNoX | with a seg fault | 13:11 |
| asac | XioNoX: please test iwht gnash then | 13:12 |
| asac | its probably a bug in amd64 | 13:12 |
| asac | flash | 13:12 |
| asac | here on x86 it works without and with nspluginwarpper | 13:12 |
| gnomefreak | asac: give it a little while to update but there should be 1 for .upstream and 3 for .ubuntu (had to update changelog after push since i forgot before | 13:12 |
| asac | gni see 2 revision right now | 13:13 |
| asac | maybe i will wait a bit | 13:13 |
| asac | at least the first revision looks better | 13:13 |
| gnomefreak | you will get 3 in a few | 13:13 |
| asac | if its really the revision that is in .upstream | 13:13 |
| gnomefreak | it needs to update | 13:13 |
| asac | then it should be fine | 13:13 |
| gnomefreak | it is | 13:13 |
| asac | yep | 13:14 |
| asac | will wait a bit | 13:14 |
| gnomefreak | hmmmmmmmmm | 13:14 |
| gnomefreak | Pushed up to revision 3. | 13:14 |
| gnomefreak | there it is | 13:15 |
| asac | ok ... let me see | 13:15 |
| XioNoX | asac, still crashing :( | 13:16 |
| gnomefreak | gnomefreak@Development:~/firegpg$ ls | 13:16 |
| gnomefreak | XPI.TEMPLATE firegpg firegpg.ubuntu | 13:16 |
| gnomefreak | see done right | 13:16 |
| asac | XioNoX: what is still crashing? | 13:16 |
| XioNoX | firefox | 13:16 |
| XioNoX | if i reflresh the page, it close | 13:16 |
| asac | try with a fresh profile | 13:16 |
| asac | that doesnt make much sense | 13:16 |
| gnomefreak | now i build for PPA | 13:17 |
| XioNoX | it is a fresh profile | 13:17 |
| asac | XioNoX: you never tell me swhich page you try to refresh | 13:17 |
| XioNoX | <XioNoX> ok http://www.t45ol.com/ we can see the alert but it crashing | 13:18 |
| gnomefreak | ok sticking with 1 teminal now 5 is too hard to keep track of :( | 13:18 |
| asac | XioNoX doesnt crash for me | 13:19 |
| asac | XioNoX: with my patch | 13:19 |
| asac | XioNoX: please try gnash instead of flash | 13:19 |
| asac | well | 13:19 |
| XioNoX | i've apply you patch | 13:19 |
| asac | XioNoX: are you sure? | 13:20 |
| XioNoX | i've installed gnash | 13:20 |
| asac | XioNoX: are you using gnash? | 13:20 |
| asac | installed is one thing | 13:20 |
| asac | using a different ;) | 13:20 |
| asac | which nspluginwrapper package version? | 13:20 |
| asac | which flashplugin-nonfree package version? | 13:20 |
| XioNoX | libgnashplugin.so | 13:20 |
| XioNoX | yep | 13:20 |
| asac | (consider to remove flashplugin-nonfree) | 13:20 |
| asac | XioNoX: did you remove flashplugin-nonfree | 13:21 |
| XioNoX | yep | 13:21 |
| asac | XioNoX: if you right click on a flash file do you see "gnash" ? | 13:21 |
| XioNoX | flashplugin-nonfreebeta exactly | 13:21 |
| XioNoX | yes yes it is gnash ;) | 13:21 |
| asac | you never know | 13:22 |
| asac | XioNoX: for me it doesnt crash ... have you tried fresh profile? | 13:22 |
| asac | have you tried a fresh ubufox.xpi | 13:22 |
| asac | ? | 13:22 |
| asac | remove ubufox.xpi | 13:22 |
| asac | sh build.sh ;) | 13:22 |
| XioNoX | Main loop ended, cleaning up | 13:23 |
| XioNoX | Any segfault past this message is likely due to improper threads cleanup. | 13:23 |
| XioNoX | Main loop ended, cleaning up | 13:23 |
| XioNoX | Any segfault past this message is likely due to improper threads cleanup | 13:23 |
| XioNoX | and it crash only on www.t45ol.com/ | 13:23 |
| asac | XioNoX: well.. then dont get stuck on that | 13:23 |
| asac | we want to send out events | 13:23 |
| XioNoX | on adobe or youtube all is working good | 13:23 |
| asac | cool | 13:23 |
| gnomefreak | im not crashing there | 13:23 |
| asac | the alert also introduces some wierd races most likely | 13:23 |
| gnomefreak | with flash | 13:23 |
| asac | so dont be too bothered about that | 13:23 |
| XioNoX | ok good | 13:24 |
| asac | what we wawnt is to send out events that contain which mime-type is used | 13:24 |
| asac | and accumulate them somewhere | 13:24 |
| asac | so we can later use them to present the user a list of "plugins/mime-types in use on a page" | 13:25 |
| XioNoX | and this transparent for the user ? | 13:29 |
| asac | XioNoX: for now we could add a menu entry "other plugins ..." | 13:31 |
| asac | which then pops up the wizard with the mime-types currently in use on the current page | 13:32 |
| XioNoX | oh | 13:33 |
| asac | the other idea is to add a icon for the same operatoin to the bottom right corner of the window (e.g. status bar) | 13:34 |
| gnomefreak | almost like my day didnt start out shitty at 2am now my tv is broken and my push hasnt shown up on PPA yet :( | 13:34 |
| gnomefreak | be back. | 13:34 |
| asac | to catch users attention | 13:34 |
| XioNoX | ok | 13:34 |
| asac | gnomefreak: ppa is slow today | 13:34 |
| XioNoX | what do you prefer ? | 13:34 |
| asac | XioNoX: for now i'd prefer both | 13:34 |
| asac | e.g. implement one command | 13:34 |
| gnomefreak | i see that | 13:34 |
| gnomefreak | >10 minute | 13:34 |
| asac | present it as a menu entry as well as a icon in the status bar | 13:35 |
| asac | if the user clicks it we want the wizard for the mime-types we accumulated through the xbl constrcture | 13:35 |
| XioNoX | ok so I create another xul file | 13:36 |
| asac | XioNoX: yes. a "overlay" | 13:37 |
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| asac | for the menu for now i'd say | 13:37 |
| gnomefreak | asac: im guessing you didnt upload firegpg into ubuntu archives right? | 13:55 |
| gnomefreak | PPA rejected my upload | 13:55 |
| gnomefreak | Rejected: | 13:55 |
| gnomefreak | The source firegpg - 0.5.1-0ubuntu1 is already accepted in ubuntu/intrepid and you cannot upload the same version within the same distribution. You have to modify the source version and re-upload. | 13:55 |
| gnomefreak | well ill give it an hour or 3 than push again | 13:56 |
| * asac lunch | 14:03 | |
| asac | bb in 30 minh | 14:03 |
| Jazzva | asac, back. | 14:06 |
| fta | hi | 14:08 |
| fta | anyone familiar with SVG here ? | 14:08 |
| Jazzva | gnomefreak, I think it will reject it again. Just add new changelog entry with version 0.5.1-0ubuntu2 (though, adding ~gnomefreak1 at the end of that would be more recommended) | 14:08 |
| Jazzva | fta, hi.. | 14:08 |
| Jazzva | not me... sorry | 14:08 |
| gnomefreak | its because i delete the other ones and it hasnt gone through yet | 14:10 |
| Jazzva | ah, ok... | 14:10 |
| gnomefreak | and ill add ~jjv to it once its ready | 14:10 |
| gnomefreak | 2-3 hours at most | 14:10 |
| gnomefreak | ok back to pulling tv apart | 14:10 |
| Jazzva | good luck | 14:10 |
| fta | http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/ | 14:19 |
| fta | NSS for Linux – Flash Player 10 for Linux now supports Mozilla’s Network Security Services (NSS) for secure network connections. | 14:21 |
| fta | not sure how this works with our sonamed nss | 14:21 |
| fta | "Ubuntu OS Support — Flash Player 10 now supports Ubuntu, one of the most popular flavors of Linux." hmm | 14:22 |
| asac | fta: it should | 15:00 |
| asac | fta: cool | 15:04 |
| asac | (e.g. ubuntu support) | 15:05 |
| Jazzva | asac... i'm not sure about ia32-libs. It didn't show me list of files on packages.ubuntu.com | 15:08 |
| fta | i hope somehow HTML5 kills flash | 15:19 |
| XioNoX | or release sources of flash | 15:23 |
| XioNoX | or both | 15:23 |
| fta | flash is evil, free or not. integration is a pain | 15:25 |
| Jazzva | fta, hehe :) | 15:30 |
| XioNoX | asac, can we use external js files in xbl ? | 15:45 |
| asac | XioNoX: why not? | 15:53 |
| asac | but usually you implement your things in "implementation" | 15:54 |
| XioNoX | i've created the menuitem | 15:58 |
| XioNoX | the status bar item | 15:58 |
| XioNoX | but but i don't really know what they should do | 15:59 |
| XioNoX | displaying a new windows ? | 15:59 |
| XioNoX | be visible only in function of the js of the xbl ? | 16:00 |
| asac | XioNoX: you could make your own "menuitem" with xbl, which then could implement fields where you cann add "missing mime types" | 16:00 |
| asac | so when you click, the menu item knows what mime-types to look for alternatives for | 16:01 |
| XioNoX | the menuitem is (for the moment) in a new xul, so i have to put it in the xbl ? | 16:03 |
| XioNoX | i don't understand : which then could implement fields where you cann add "missing mime types" | 16:03 |
| asac | XioNoX: you could implement: "myspecialmenuitem" in xbl | 16:03 |
| asac | and then use that in your xul instead of menuitem | 16:04 |
| asac | XioNoX: maybe you can also just add arbitrary new fields to that menuitem though | 16:04 |
| asac | let me think ;) | 16:04 |
| XioNoX | new fields = new menuitem under the menuitem ? | 16:05 |
| asac | getElementByid("mymenuitemid").usedMimeTypes =... | 16:06 |
| asac | XioNoX: look how the missingplugins thing stores its mime-types | 16:07 |
| asac | most likely we want to do it in a similar way | 16:07 |
| XioNoX | missingplugins thing ? | 16:09 |
| XioNoX | ha ok | 16:10 |
| XioNoX | asac, this part : ? event.preventDefault(); | 16:10 |
| XioNoX | // Fire a PluginNotFound event to trigger the infobar | 16:10 |
| XioNoX | var ev = document.createEvent("Events"); | 16:10 |
| XioNoX | ev.initEvent("PluginNotFound", true, true); | 16:10 |
| XioNoX | this.dispatchEvent(ev); | 16:10 |
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| XioNoX | asac, I don't understand how the .Event thing in the xbl show a new window :( | 16:28 |
| XioNoX | i can't find references to it | 16:28 |
| asac | XioNoX: the event listener is probably in "browser.js" for now | 16:29 |
| asac | search the full source tree for the event name that is in the .xml | 16:30 |
| Jazzva | and i'm off for the most of the afternoon to work on client/server/workstation programs for school project... | 16:32 |
| XioNoX | ok, i've find it ! | 17:03 |
| XioNoX | line 850 | 17:03 |
| XioNoX | but i've got to go | 17:03 |
| XioNoX | i'll continue on this later | 17:04 |
| XioNoX | asac, thx and see you later ;) | 17:04 |
| ksbalaji | my firefox 3.0.1 is screwed up. Built up bookmarks are gone! Im unable to select add-ons -FF3 just quits! help | 17:10 |
| asac | ksbalaji: restart your system. then start firefox from a terminal with the command | 17:32 |
| asac | firefox -safe-mode | 17:33 |
| asac | if that makes firefox to startup, then disable all extensions (except the ubuntu one) in tool -> addons | 17:33 |
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| ksbalaji | thanks asac I shall try. | 17:52 |
| ksbalaji | asac Before restarting, I tried safemode result::balaji@viva100:~$ firefox -safe-mode | 18:00 |
| ksbalaji | (firefox:27347): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager: | 18:00 |
| ksbalaji | Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed. | 18:00 |
| ksbalaji | Segmentation fault | 18:00 |
| asac | ksbalaji: upgrade your system to latest | 18:06 |
| asac | reboot | 18:07 |
| asac | you have a differnt problem | 18:07 |
| asac | not firefox related | 18:07 |
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| asac | ask on #ubuntu | 18:07 |
| gnomefreak | Jazzva: its on my PPA building atm if you want to test | 18:42 |
| Jazzva | gnomefreak, ok... will do later. currently working on a school project | 18:43 |
| Jazzva | asac, I just noticed this change in adblock-plus: "Reproduce the MPL license text in debian/copyright as required by policy, instead of installing it as a separate file." | 20:39 |
| Jazzva | That means I should fix this in few of my extensions... | 20:39 |
| fta | is that a new 3.8.* policy ? | 20:40 |
| Jazzva | fta, probably | 21:16 |
| fta | "Every package must be accompanied by a verbatim copy of its copyright and distribution license in the file /usr/share/doc/package/copyright. This file must neither be compressed nor be a symbolic link. " | 21:17 |
| fta | Jazzva, ^^ | 21:17 |
| fta | http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-docs.html#s-copyrightfile | 21:18 |
| Jazzva | hmm... ok | 21:19 |
| Jazzva | does that apply for gpl/lgpl/the rest in the common-licenses, too? | 21:19 |
| fta | no | 21:19 |
| fta | "Packages distributed under the UCB BSD license, the Apache license (version 2.0), the Artistic license, the GNU GPL (version 2 or 3), the GNU LGPL (versions 2, 2.1, or 3), and the GNU FDL (version 1.2) should refer to the corresponding files under /usr/share/common-licenses,[92] rather than quoting them in the copyright file. " | 21:19 |
| Jazzva | ah... good :) | 21:19 |
| fta | [92] In particular, /usr/share/common-licenses/BSD, /usr/share/common-licenses/Apache-2.0, /usr/share/common-licenses/Artistic, /usr/share/common-licenses/GPL-2, /usr/share/common-licenses/GPL-3, /usr/share/common-licenses/LGPL-2, /usr/share/common-licenses/LGPL-2.1, /usr/share/common-licenses/LGPL-3, and /usr/share/common-licenses/GFDL-1.2 respectively. | 21:20 |
| fta | Jazzva, and remember to bump standard version to 3.8.0.1 while you're there | 21:27 |
| Jazzva | ok | 21:28 |
| asac | Jazzva: err. | 21:38 |
| asac | i dont think that that copyright policy can be done in ubuntu | 21:39 |
| asac | is that a debian policy? | 21:39 |
| Jazzva | umm... i suppose.. | 21:40 |
| asac | i dont think we can actually do this. we are fighting for CD space | 21:41 |
| asac | and thus link everything that is a duplicated file | 21:41 |
| asac | same for .gz :) | 21:41 |
| asac | so for now, just ignore that imo | 21:42 |
| asac | (unless someone complains) | 21:42 |
| Jazzva | but this shouldn't be a problem for packages in universe/multiverse, right? | 21:42 |
| Jazzva | s/this/that | 21:42 |
| Jazzva | hmm... has flash 10 reached hardy yet? | 21:42 |
| asac | multiverse for sure | 21:42 |
| asac | universe has the same standards license-wise as main | 21:43 |
| Jazzva | aha... ok | 21:43 |
| asac | only difference is the support promise | 21:43 |
| Jazzva | canonical vs. community support | 21:43 |
| Jazzva | s/canonical/canonical+comm/ | 21:43 |
| asac | Jazzva: yes. | 21:43 |
| asac | more or less | 21:43 |
| asac | all this will change hopefully | 21:43 |
| asac | but its not an easy task to do | 21:43 |
| asac | e.g. main vs. universe will go | 21:44 |
| Jazzva | change in what way? | 21:44 |
| asac | instead we will get "ubuntu desktop", "ubuntu server", "ubuntu server ibm editioN" and such | 21:44 |
| asac | there are discussions about that in debian devel | 21:44 |
| Jazzva | and how will that handle the support? | 21:44 |
| asac | well ... canonical would commit to support the "ubunt udesktop" and whatever seeds | 21:45 |
| asac | if there are third party entities that want to support other sets of packages they can do that | 21:45 |
| asac | with their own seed | 21:45 |
| Jazzva | and where will current universe packages go? | 21:45 |
| asac | its still unclear what to do with the intersecting packages though | 21:46 |
| asac | Jazzva: universe will stay universe | 21:46 |
| asac | main is just going away in the long run | 21:46 |
| asac | and will be replaced with "X distro" | 21:46 |
| asac | at lesat thats what i understood | 21:46 |
| asac | there are plenty of open points though | 21:46 |
| Jazzva | i will try to nod as if I understood that... but I think it's a bit fuzzy :) | 21:46 |
| asac | its all not well thought out | 21:47 |
| asac | e.g. not finalized | 21:47 |
| asac | its just understaood that the main/universe split isnt the best and probably isnt the most flexible way to do that | 21:48 |
| Jazzva | aham... ok | 21:48 |
| Jazzva | :) | 21:48 |
| Jazzva | asac, regarding nspluginwrapper, i still tend to get nspluginviewer's processes in a separate window. | 21:54 |
| Jazzva | and they don't work | 21:55 |
| Jazzva | if I don't close them, I can browse normally, but none of the flash works | 21:55 |
| Jazzva | if I close one of them | 21:55 |
| Jazzva | next time I bump into some flash object, firefox crashes | 21:55 |
| Jazzva | at least, that's what I'm usually getting... | 21:55 |
| asac | Jazzva: thats 1.0.0 ? | 21:55 |
| asac | Jazzva: have you tried to remove libflashsupport.so? | 21:56 |
| asac | (which might still be shipped in ia32-libs) | 21:56 |
| asac | at least those create deadlocks | 21:56 |
| asac | which might cause issues when firefox wants to reuse the same pluginhost for a new website | 21:56 |
| Jazzva | I don't think i'm able to install ia32-libs. i'm on i386 | 21:56 |
| Jazzva | And I don't think I have libflashsupport.so. But I'll run a find to make sure it's not there | 21:57 |
| asac | Jazzva: oh. you get that on i686 | 21:58 |
| asac | strange | 21:58 |
| asac | havent seen any issues there | 21:58 |
| Jazzva | lucky you :) | 21:59 |
| fta | (flash is evil) | 22:00 |
| Jazzva | +1 | 22:00 |
| asac | fta: convince all the flash developers out there that they should abandon their job | 22:01 |
| asac | until that happens flash usage will only accelerate | 22:01 |
| asac | (unfortunately) | 22:02 |
| fta | they will once there's something better... which has yet to occur | 22:02 |
| asac | well. i think you shoul dknow that everyone 30+ would try to put more energy in fighting for an old technology than learning a new one | 22:02 |
| asac | as long as the new alternative isnt really far, far ahead, adoption can only go through fresh blood | 22:03 |
| asac | who also have to convince their old bosses first ;) | 22:03 |
| asac | i think that flash will stay for ages :( | 22:03 |
| asac | svg failed | 22:03 |
| asac | all depends on whether there is a good developer studio | 22:04 |
| asac | that allows non-developers to develop something ;) | 22:04 |
| fta | svg is not a good competitor against flash | 22:04 |
| fta | i wish svg takes on, now that controls and animations are emerging, yet, it's not a video format, just a 2D vectorial still pictures format | 22:06 |
| asac | animations exist for ages | 22:06 |
| asac | i used a baltic like 6 years ago with javascript | 22:06 |
| asac | to do animation | 22:06 |
| fta | in svg ? | 22:06 |
| asac | yes | 22:06 |
| fta | mozilla doesn't have it yet | 22:06 |
| asac | the standard always defined animation ... the java implementation worked for ages | 22:06 |
| asac | same for the adobe implementation | 22:07 |
| asac | yeah ... mozilla decided against that | 22:07 |
| asac | no doubt one of the reasons why it failed | 22:07 |
| fta | they will, probably for 3.0.2 | 22:07 |
| asac | lets hope | 22:07 |
| asac | but then you need to get a good svn implementation to the other 90% of the computers | 22:07 |
| asac | before you can really use that as a web-designer | 22:08 |
| asac | http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/batik/ | 22:11 |
| asac | batik :) ... not baltic ;) | 22:11 |
| fta | there's still no native svg in IE, even IE8, but i don't care. I'm producing some now | 22:12 |
| asac | fta: well. windows has at least a proper plugin | 22:12 |
| asac | i think from adobe ;) | 22:12 |
| asac | or was it macromedia ... not that it would make a difference ;) | 22:13 |
| fta | which reach end-of-life in december | 22:13 |
| fta | +es | 22:13 |
| fta | adobe killed it | 22:13 |
| asac | oh | 22:13 |
| asac | cool | 22:13 |
| asac | well, then svg wont fly for sure i guess | 22:13 |
| asac | OTOH, there was a talk at moz summit about bringing mozilla technolgies to IE to not have this kind of dilemma | 22:14 |
| asac | e.g. produce a svg plugin for IE based on mozilla svg code | 22:14 |
| asac | so moz doesnt get stuck because of lazy IE in future | 22:14 |
| fta | asac, did they start something already ? | 22:36 |
| asac | fta: there was a demonstration about ... some picture format ... let me think ;) | 22:39 |
| Jazzva | IE doesn't support SVG? Wow... | 22:46 |
| fta | Q: I know this has been talked about (and deflected) over and over, but can we get a sense of what the MSFT mindset is on SVG? I personally think it is a great technology, but the lack of full browser support makes it very hard to use in production.... | 22:48 |
| fta | A: We believe that graphics support is important, and SVG is a pretty good capture of capabilities, with lots of industry support (though the spec is big and inconsistently/incompletely implemented across browsers). It didn't make the IE8 cut. | 22:48 |
| fta | that's from http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/chats/transcripts/08_0619_ez_ie8.mspx | 22:49 |
| asac | umm | 22:56 |
| asac | too difficult apparently ;) | 22:56 |
| fta | i understand "It didn't make the IE8 cut" as "we have the code but not the quality yet" | 22:57 |
| fta | maybe i'm wrong | 22:58 |
| XioNoX | asac, still working ? | 22:58 |
| XioNoX | you never sleep ? | 22:58 |
| asac | no. i understand it as "we didnt care, but we claim that that was for the benefit of the customer - so we could release earlier" :) | 22:58 |
| asac | fta: ^^ | 22:58 |
| asac | XioNoX: i am back ;) | 22:58 |
| asac | i am about to sleep :-D | 22:58 |
| asac | its just interesting to see whats going on :-D | 22:59 |
| XioNoX | asac, do you think that I could continue to contribute with you help after my internship ? | 23:00 |
| asac | if you continue to do useful things, why not :) | 23:01 |
| asac | otoh, it puts a pile of load on me too | 23:01 |
| asac | but i guess it wont be that intense anyway ;) | 23:02 |
| XioNoX | i'll be back at school so it will be less intense | 23:03 |
| asac | i guess | 23:03 |
| XioNoX | you work only on firefox ? | 23:03 |
| XioNoX | and NM ? | 23:03 |
| asac | mozilla in general | 23:04 |
| asac | weighted by importance to some degree ;) | 23:04 |
| XioNoX | ok, nice | 23:05 |
| asac | NM is something to get out in a different world. to escape from brain-deadlocks ;) | 23:05 |
| XioNoX | i'm using 0.7 if you need feedback ;) | 23:06 |
| XioNoX | how many dev works for canonical like you ? | 23:06 |
| asac | i have no exact number at hand right now | 23:06 |
| XioNoX | and do you read brainstorm idea around firefox ? | 23:07 |
| asac | i sometimes do | 23:07 |
| asac | or at least try to take a look | 23:07 |
| asac | some ideas are great, but hard to do | 23:08 |
| asac | faster firefox otoh, isnt really a good idea imo ;) | 23:08 |
| asac | "Better sound support" is not really a firefox issue ;) | 23:08 |
| XioNoX | what firefox 3.1 will use for the sound of ogg ? | 23:09 |
| asac | i hope its gstreamer which can use everything | 23:10 |
| XioNoX | You will have to code something specially for pulse of firefox dev take care ? | 23:10 |
| asac | fta: ? | 23:10 |
| asac | is gstreamer used in video tags? | 23:10 |
| fta | not yet | 23:10 |
| asac | ok. but i think thats the idea | 23:10 |
| asac | which would easily bring us easy-codec-install | 23:10 |
| fta | bug 422538 | 23:10 |
| fta | mozilla bug 422538 | 23:10 |
| asac | ubottu: go | 23:11 |
| fta | dead ? | 23:11 |
| asac | mozilla bug 422538 | 23:11 |
| ubottu | Mozilla bug 422538 in Video/Audio "Ogg Theora backend for HTML5 video element" [Enhancement,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=422538 | 23:11 |
| asac | hurry ;) | 23:11 |
| ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about go | 23:11 |
| fta | hm, gst is another one | 23:11 |
| fta | mozilla bug 422540 | 23:13 |
| ubottu | Mozilla bug 422540 in Video/Audio "GStreamer backend for HTML5 video element" [Enhancement,Assigned] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=422540 | 23:13 |
| fta | it's a P1 | 23:14 |
| XioNoX | Good night ;) | 23:14 |
| XioNoX | see you tomorrow | 23:14 |
| asac_ | hmm | 23:14 |
| asac_ | disconnect | 23:14 |
| fta | <fta> mozilla bug 422540 | 23:15 |
| ubottu | Mozilla bug 422540 in Video/Audio "GStreamer backend for HTML5 video element" [Enhancement,Assigned] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=422540 | 23:15 |
| XioNoX | asac_, good night ;) | 23:15 |
| asac_ | yep | 23:15 |
| fta | asac_, btw, the svg animation bug: mozilla bug 216462 | 23:15 |
| fta | nearly "landable" | 23:16 |
| asac_ | good news | 23:16 |
| fta | but it's a wanted1.9.1 | 23:17 |
| ubottu | Mozilla bug 216462 in SVG "Implement SVG (SMIL) Animation" [Normal,Assigned] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=216462 | 23:17 |
| fta | the bot is slow... | 23:17 |
| asac_ | yeah ;) | 23:17 |
| asac_ | half a meg patch :-D | 23:17 |
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