[02:10]  * Myrtti stares at the wall
[02:11] <Myrtti> atleast I'm not the only one awake at this hour
[02:11] <Flannel> Myrtti: I am!
[02:11] <Myrtti> our CEO is also awake
[02:11] <Flannel> And... so is the wall
[02:12] <Myrtti> though I'm not sure, it might be that he's in Vietnam
[02:12] <Myrtti> in which case it is perfectly understandable that he's awake
[02:24] <Myrtti> nini
[04:43] <bigfuzzyjesus> so have we decided, can i get into -offtopic
[04:44] <bigfuzzyjesus> nvm
[04:44] <bigfuzzyjesus> thank you!
[04:59] <elky_work> yes, think before acting. thank you!
[05:11] <nalioth> . . . . and the clock starts . . .
[05:13] <Flannel> tick
[05:14] <Flannel> tick
[05:14] <Flannel> tick
[05:34] <elky_work> nobody's placed bets yet
[05:37] <nalioth> sorry, i'm chasing bra spammers
[05:45] <bazhang> sirchuckofnorris in -ot is almightycthulhu?
[05:45] <bazhang> * [SirChuckofNorris] (n=Daniel@c-68-57-223-4.hsd1.in.comcast.net): DanielJ  seems familiar
[05:52] <bazhang> seems to be him; talking about buying used xbox 360s and selling them on ebay, just as al-mi-cth was
[06:33] <bazhang> oi
[06:45] <Madpilot> hi all
[07:04] <bazhang> holycow, how may we assist you
[07:08] <Flannel> bazhang: Hes got a redirect here from kubuntu
[07:08] <Flannel> er, -kde4
[07:08] <bazhang> aha banned I would guess then Flannel
[07:18] <nalioth> and we wonder why . . .
[07:18] <Flannel> yeah, he's in #ubuntu too, was watching for more language
[07:26] <Hobbsee> greetings
[07:39] <jussi01> Good morning Hobbsee
[07:40] <Hobbsee> jussi01!
[07:41] <jussi01> :)
[08:04] <Flannel> limcore looks to need some oppage soon in -offtopic, with how his mannerisms are progressing
[08:05] <Hobbsee> more ranting?
[08:05] <elky_work> this surprises me not
[08:05] <Hobbsee> heh.  you can't say that.
[08:05] <Flannel> yeah, and then some spam
[08:05] <jussi01> hehe, love the reaction when Hobbsee comes in...
[08:06] <Hobbsee> hehe :)
[08:06] <Hobbsee> spam of what?
[08:06] <elky_work> Flannel: he's on probation, he shouldnt be given this much move room if he's being an idiot, and spamming. he should not for one get away with spamming
[08:08] <Flannel> elky_work: Well, go ahead and banninate
[08:08] <Flannel> there's some swearing as a trigger if youd like
[08:08] <elky_work> Flannel: this nick is not in there
[08:08] <elky_work> i dont offtopic from work
[08:09] <elky_work> that's asking for non-productivity
[08:09] <Flannel> elky_work: I haven't ops in -offtopic, or I'd do it
[08:14] <Hobbsee> Flannel: problem solved.
[08:15] <Hobbsee> ask and you shall receive..
[08:15] <Madpilot> Hobbsee, is that permanent, or just a temp op?
[08:16] <Hobbsee> Madpilot: i don't have permissions for permanent.
[08:16] <Madpilot> who does, these days?
[08:16] <Hobbsee> ask the ircc
[08:26] <Flannel> Madpilot: heh, we probably ought ot move that factoid away from Edgy
[08:26] <Flannel> https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/installation-guide/i386/appendix-preseed.html I think would be the Hardy equiv?
[08:26] <Madpilot> Flannel, there doesn't seemt to be a later version - not sure if the Installation Guide is still a supported doc
[08:26] <Madpilot> ah, there we go. Nice.
[08:27] <Flannel> Madpilot: actually
[08:27] <Flannel> https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html
[08:28] <Flannel> Both (Edgy) and Hardy have the same page there, linkingto appendix B (the above link) for more/full instructions
[08:28] <Flannel> Ah, we ditched the /ubuntu/
[08:28] <Flannel> !automate
[08:29] <Flannel> !automate =~ #/6.10/ubuntu/#/8.04/#
[08:29] <Flannel> !automate
[08:29] <Flannel> that link works for someone else, right?
[08:29] <jussi01> yes
[08:29] <Madpilot> yup
[08:30] <Madpilot> !cloning
[08:30] <Madpilot> no need to update there
[08:30]  * jussi01 wonders if Madpilot is actually a Mad Pilot :P
[08:31] <Madpilot> I am, actually
[08:31] <Madpilot> well, I am a pilot. Not actually mad. Really.
[08:31] <jussi01> Madpilot: really? in which country?
[08:31]  * jussi01 has 20 hours to his name
[08:32] <Madpilot> jussi01, in Canada. Finished my Commercial PL last year, working on my Instructor Rating currently
[08:32] <jussi01> Madpilot: nice!
[08:32] <Madpilot> http://flickr.com/photos/wirelizard/2228416218/in/set-72157600850257007/
[08:32] <Madpilot> most expensive thing I own, by roughly an order of magnitude ^
[08:32] <jussi01> oh stop rubbing it in. :/
[08:32] <Madpilot> :)
[08:33]  * jussi01 ran out of money trying to get a license and now is _trying_ to save (unsuccessfully)
[08:34] <jussi01> nice Maule there
[08:34] <Madpilot> I'm currently going into debt getting the Flight Instructor's Rating, it will lead to a job, tho
[08:34] <jussi01> yeah.
[08:34] <Madpilot> the Maule was a visitor, not something I've flown
[08:35] <jussi01> What did you learn on?
[08:36] <jussi01> I did most of my hours on a 150, and a few on a 172
[08:36] <Madpilot> Did most of the PPL & CPL in 152, but a lot of the CPL buildup time in the 172
[08:37] <Madpilot> the 172 is way nicer for cross-country flying! Actual legroom, more than one radio, that sort of thing.
[08:37] <jussi01> yep. :D
[08:38] <Madpilot> just realized my Flickr stream has practically no pics of the planes I *actually* fly... this is about the only one: http://flickr.com/photos/wirelizard/2257236532/in/set-72157600850257007/
[08:38] <Myrtti> sillies
[08:38] <Madpilot> and this one: http://flickr.com/photos/wirelizard/532846136/in/set-72157600850257007/
[08:39] <Madpilot> Myrtti, of course we are.
[08:39] <Myrtti> ♥
[08:39] <Hobbsee> can i go home yet?
[08:39] <Myrtti> morning folks
[08:39] <Madpilot> Nobody sane has anything to do with aircraft.
[08:39] <Madpilot> Just something to consider on your next commercial flight, everyone. :D
[08:39] <ikonia> Hobbsee: abandon ship
[08:40] <ikonia> ahhh the mighty gnomefreak
[08:40] <Madpilot> hey gnomefreak
[08:40] <Madpilot> jussi01, where are you based?
[08:40] <gnomefreak> ;) hello
[08:41] <Hobbsee> ikonia: i wish...
[08:42] <jussi01> Madpilot: Finland
[08:42] <Madpilot> jussi01, cool. I gather flying is even more expensive in Europe, though... bad enough here.
[08:42] <jussi01> yes...
[08:43] <ikonia> Madpilot: a friend of mine is a pilot, the expense is insane
[08:43] <Madpilot> North America does have the cheapest GA flying in the world... we just have to keep reminding ourselves that it's worse for everyone else...
[08:44]  * Myrtti grunts
[08:44] <Hobbsee> hi cave man.
[08:45] <Hobbsee> or cave woman, as the case may be.
[08:45] <jussi01> cave woman?
[08:45] <jussi01> heh
[08:45] <jussi01> Madpilot: yeah, you are lucky ... :/
[08:46] <Madpilot> jussi01, best part is, Canada's getting all the overseas students these days. Cheap flying, and we're far easier to get into as a student, compared to the Excited States.
[08:46] <jussi01> hehe
[08:47] <jussi01> Madpilot: Im considering it... if I could ever save something....
[08:49] <gnomefreak> where do i get a list of umodes and chan modes for freenode? it used to be in factoid but its not there
[08:50] <Flannel> http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml
[08:50] <Madpilot> not on the freenode website?
[08:50] <gnomefreak> thank
[08:51] <gnomefreak> Madpilot: its not on the link in !freenode
[08:56] <gnomefreak> can someone /whois me and let me know if you see all the channels that im in? easy way to know is if you are not in a channel that is listed
[08:57] <Flannel> gnomefreak: I see you in channels Im not in, yes.
[08:57] <Madpilot> heh
[08:57] <gnomefreak> Flannel: thanks
[08:59]  * Myrtti grunts and heads to shower
[09:00] <jussi01> !modes | gnomefreak
[09:00] <gnomefreak> oh thanks jussi01
[09:01] <jussi01> gnomefreak: and from what you are asking, Id think you are after +i ;)
[09:01] <gnomefreak> jussi01: nope i was +i i needed -i
[09:02] <jussi01> oh ... :D
[09:11] <Flannel> Hmmm, do we have a factoid for how one becomes ops? or is it just on the wiki?
[09:12] <jussi01> hrm
[09:12] <Madpilot> Step 0: Be insane.
[09:13]  * Flannel randomly has someone asking if we have to donate money and/or use ubuntu forever.
[09:13] <jussi01> Flannel: dont think we do
[09:13] <Madpilot> huh?
[09:13] <Myrtti> Flannel: it's a chain of trust
[09:13] <jussi01> Flannel: itworks like this you ask - you dont get
[09:13] <Flannel> Myrtti: I'm ... well aware
[09:13] <Flannel> was just wondering if we had a factoid, or if it was just on the wiki page
[09:13] <Myrtti> Flannel: you earn it - and if you ask, you have very slim chances
[09:13] <jussi01> thats what you telll them.
[09:15] <Myrtti> and for that matter - if I really knew how to become ops - I would have done the opposite in most cases
[09:16] <jussi01> hehe
[09:17] <Myrtti> or did any of you have "become addicted to IRC and care about the clenliness of your channels more than your apartment" how high on your top priorities and goals for life?
[09:18] <Madpilot> based on the mess around me currently, I decline to comment on that :)
[09:18] <Myrtti> I didn't actually plan this when I was 16 or 15 and joined #kukka in IRCnet for the first time with Win3.11 version of mIRC
[09:19] <Myrtti> ( and yay for a daily age crisis again /o\ )
[09:24] <Dave2> Rooms are meant to be clean? Damn.
[09:39] <Myrtti> hola Seeker`
[09:39] <Seeker`> heya
[09:40]  * Dave2 pokes Seeker`'s ~
[09:40]  * Seeker` prods Dave2 
[09:41]  * Dave2 also pokes Outlook Web Access, hard
[09:41] <Seeker`> haha
[09:41] <Seeker`> Myrtti: how are you?
[09:41] <Myrtti> been better, getting older
[09:41] <Myrtti> every day
[09:48] <jussi01> Im going to stab someone
[09:49] <jussi01> I just went for lunch.. and guess what was on my windscreen when I cam back...
[09:49] <Seeker`> a complement on your parking?
[09:49] <jussi01> yeah... :/
[09:50] <jussi01> as a consequence, money went from - to --
[09:52] <Seeker`> ah
[09:52] <Seeker`> thats bad
[09:53]  * jussi01 sighs :/
[09:55] <Myrtti> that's a first one
[09:55] <Myrtti> EXCEPTION: Line without linefeed (:tat_!n=tat@p4FC13464.)
[10:42]  * Myrtti raises an eyebrow
[10:42] <Myrtti> ircbin [n=ircbin@80.31.103.113]
[10:49] <mneptok> yay! training's done!
[10:49]  * mneptok now has 48 hours to do as he pleases in Tokya
[10:49] <mneptok> *Tokyo
[10:51] <Myrtti> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvkNasg_ETQ
[10:51] <Myrtti> mneptok: ^
[10:52] <mneptok> *cuh-lick*
[10:52] <Myrtti> though that concentrates more in china, but anyway
[10:54] <mneptok> mmmmm .... panda sushi
[10:54] <mneptok> it's sad, but the thing that has excited me most is actually seeing a bottle of "Pocari Sweat"
[10:55] <elkbuntu> mneptok, haha
[10:55] <elkbuntu> what was the training?
[10:55] <mneptok> elkbuntu: Dell stuffs
[10:55] <mneptok> @dell.jp
[10:55] <elkbuntu> no fair. japan gets dell stuff and aus gets nuffin :(
[10:56] <mneptok> maybe if you let the US nuke you your fortunes will change
[10:56] <elkbuntu> mneptok, they already did that once
[10:57] <mneptok> the arrival of New Kids On The Block CDs does not count, dear
[10:57] <elkbuntu> although, i think it was brits, not yanks
[10:57] <elkbuntu> http://www.aic.gov.au/publications/lcj/wayward/ch16.html
[10:59] <Myrtti> elkbuntu: oh shush, I bet you get the consumer line products of Dell in Australia anyway
[10:59] <elkbuntu> Myrtti, not with ubuntu!
[10:59] <Myrtti> elkbuntu: we *don't* get *any* consumer line products here.
[11:00] <Myrtti> elkbuntu: or - the webpage doesn't acknowledge there is such thing as consumer line products
[11:00]  * elkbuntu does await the dell e
[11:00]  * Myrtti grumps
[11:03] <elkbuntu> this eeepc is nice and all... but... well... shiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnneeeeeeeeyyyyyyyyyy
[11:07] <Myrtti> I still think I'd get MSI Wind
[11:08] <elkbuntu> how much are they retailing?
[11:08] <Myrtti> 420€
[11:08] <elkbuntu> eep
[11:08] <elkbuntu> that's alot of AUD
[11:08] <Myrtti> eee's are 399€
[11:08] <jussi01> I want the new one from lenovo
[11:08] <Myrtti> don't need lots of maths to figure out which is a better deal
[11:08] <elkbuntu> jussi01, linkage?
[11:09] <elkbuntu> Myrtti, hehe
[11:09] <jussi01> 1 sec
[11:09] <jussi01> http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS9666362375.html
[11:09] <elkbuntu> apparantly HP's mini didnt go as good as they hoped, design-wise
[11:13] <Myrtti> MWAHAHAHA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITLmIfcCIXY
[11:16]  * elkbuntu blinks
[11:27] <Myrtti> Finnish beer ads ♥ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aI2Kkt54CmI
[12:39] <Seeker`> I want an eee 901
[12:40] <bazhang> they are on sale here :)
[12:40] <Seeker`> how much?
[12:40] <bazhang> $NT15,460
[12:40] <elkeee> oh look, i'm a sir again
[12:40] <Seeker`> NT?
[12:41] <bazhang> new taiwan dollar
[12:41] <Myrtti> elkeee: don't you just love it >__<
[12:42]  * Myrtti doodles more hearts to a corner of a notebook
[12:43] <Seeker`> bazhang: Its not that much more here
[12:43] <bazhang> Seeker`, nice
[12:43] <Seeker`> £300
[12:50] <jussi01> anyone need a laugh?
[12:51] <jussi01> http://content.techrepublic.com.com/2346-10877_11-198663-1.html
[13:00]  * Mez thinks Ljl just rebooted
[13:02] <Myrtti> whee
[13:03] <Myrtti> MEHHHHH
[13:03] <Myrtti> I just snapped a feather off the Pink Fluffy Pen of Poking™!!!!11
[13:03]  * Myrtti gets some glue
[13:03] <jussi01> hehe
[13:04] <Mez> Myrtti, glue the feathers to the british pen ?
[13:05] <elkbuntu> heh
[13:05] <Myrtti> I don't have feathers as I don't own a boa and it's not easter
[13:06] <Mez> from the pink pen
[13:06] <Myrtti> NOOO!
[13:07] <Myrtti> no.
[13:07] <Myrtti> tis my pink pen I'll give to sabdfl when he visits Finland.
[13:07] <Myrtti> it has to be in mint condition then.
[13:08] <elkbuntu> buy him a special one, and get his name engraved on it
[13:08] <mneptok> Myrtti: i have a fluffy pink pen given as a gift from the London office :)
[13:08] <elkbuntu> just for kicks
[13:08]  * Myrtti pokes Mez with the eraser end of the British Poking Pencil
[13:08] <Mez> w00t
[13:08] <Myrtti> mneptok: awww
[13:09]  * Myrtti replicates her /poke alias and gives it to mneptok 
[13:09] <mneptok> Myrtti: if you want a photo, i'll get you one when i get back to Montreal
[13:09]  * mneptok got the gift because he is officially Canonical's MAGICAL FAIRY PRINCESS!!!!!
[13:09] <Myrtti> mneptok: /alias /me pokes $0 with The Pink Fluffy Pen of Poking™;/say *SQUEEEAK*
[13:10] <Mez> weird....
[13:10] <mneptok> I WANNA BE A BAMBI WITH FLOWERS ALL OVER ME!
[13:10] <Myrtti> meh... /alias poke /me pokes $0 with The Pink Fluffy Pen of Poking™;/say *SQUEEEAK*
[13:10] <elkbuntu> mneptok, is bambi with ubuntu logos close enough?
[13:11] <Myrtti> mneptok: no, you be the Flower
[13:11] <Myrtti> with your farting
[13:11] <Myrtti> purty Flower
[13:11] <mneptok> Myrtti: start calling me Thumper and i just might propose ....
[13:11] <Mez> o_O
[13:11] <Myrtti> awwwww
[13:12] <Myrtti> I've not been proposed for such a long time
[13:12] <Myrtti> I think the last time was May
[13:13] <Myrtti> I declined
[13:13] <mneptok> c'est le Mai! jolie Mai! c'est le jolie mois de Mai!
[13:14] <Myrtti> I don't have time to wait for the proposer to grow some hair on his chest (he was 12)
[13:14] <elkbuntu> mneptok, http://www.geekosophical.net/wp-content/uploads/2006/10/bambuntu_small.jpg
[13:14] <mneptok> Myrtti: will you marry me? let's say .... hmmm ... 3 incarnations hence?
[13:14]  * mneptok is a monk next life, but plans on failing and incarnating a few more times
[13:15]  * elkbuntu mutters obscenities at madwifi
[13:16] <mneptok> elkbuntu: "Bambuntu" or "Ubambi?"
[13:16] <elkbuntu> stupid driver i compiled wont work for the stupid wifi on this eeepc :(
[13:16] <elkbuntu> mneptok, bambuntu
[13:16] <mneptok> huzzah for Atheros!
[13:16] <mneptok> NOT
[13:16] <elkbuntu> mneptok, make the hurt go away
[13:17] <Myrtti> mneptok: sure...
[13:17] <mneptok> Myrtti: i hope we're both women. that'll be *hot*.
[13:17]  * Myrtti larts mneptok 
[13:18] <Myrtti> only if you'll speak either python, bash or sql into my ear
[13:18] <Myrtti> that just swoops me from my feet
[13:18] <mneptok> i do zsh, behbeh
[13:18] <Myrtti> uuu
[13:20]  * Myrtti smirks
[13:20] <Myrtti> LaTeX?
[13:21]  * Dave2 hands mneptok some VBScript, cmd.exe, and MSSQL scripts.
[13:21]  * Myrtti backs away from Dave2 
[13:21] <mneptok> TeX sweetie. i like traditional sex.
[13:21] <Dave2> Hey, VBScript is useful. (It wasn't blocked in college, so we could use it to do stuff, whilst other things like batch files were all blocked.)
[13:22] <mneptok> doesn't the "VB" stand for "Vaginal Blood?"
[13:22]  * Myrtti larts mneptok again
[13:22] <Myrtti> tsk.
[13:22] <Myrtti> /me takes out her emp cannon and points at mneptok
[13:22] <Myrtti> *BWUUUUUP*
[13:22] <Myrtti> cmon
[13:23]  * Myrtti kicks her empcannon
[13:23] <mneptok> MY PACEMAKER!
[13:23] <elkbuntu> it's kinda true though...
[13:23] <Myrtti> oh FCOL
[13:23] <Myrtti> someone has stole the battery pack
[13:23] <elkbuntu> but the bleeding happens from every oriface, not just *there*
[13:24] <Myrtti> on related note
[13:24] <Myrtti> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGQyOGDtNg8
[13:24] <Hobbsee> Myrtti: it's all PriceChild's fault.
[13:24] <Hobbsee> and seveas'.
[13:24] <Myrtti> warning: contains cursing. in Finnish.
[13:25] <Myrtti> that ^ is what I wish I was doing sometimes
[13:25] <mneptok> isn't the Finnish word for shit something like "laiiitiimakkallallettuuunnuuoosiikaanaoo?"
[13:26] <Myrtti> caption: If you're angry, don't drink yourself senseless but take a mattock and and go to a bog"
[13:26] <mneptok> pssst ... Serbia. if you want those vowels back, i think the Finns are sleeping ....
[13:26] <Myrtti> mneptok: no.
[13:27] <mneptok> vaaiassallatuuolaiissiaavaauutuuiiaalssaatta?
[13:27] <Myrtti> if you're really intrested, I've got a youtube.com link
[13:32] <Myrtti> I like the "Damnit"
[13:33] <mneptok> perrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrkkele
[13:34] <Myrtti> tsk.
[13:34] <mneptok> i know, needs more vowels.
[13:34]  * Hobbsee pokes mneptok with the Long Pointy Stick of DOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!™
[13:34] <Myrtti> mneptok: no cursing
[13:34]  * mneptok having been poked, basks in the horror-glory that is Hobbsee 
[13:35] <mneptok> oh, for those of you taking notes at home ...
[13:35] <mneptok> if you are conducting all-day training sessions, spicy chicken curry at lunch is a *really* bad idea.
[13:39] <elkbuntu> mneptok, here's your bambi! http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/funny-pictures-cubs-are-not-hunting-properly.jpg
[13:42] <mneptok> mmmmm ... bambasammich
[13:42]  * Myrtti growls and goes to nom... crisp bread
[13:42] <Myrtti> damnit.
[13:43] <mneptok> perrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrkkele
[13:43] <jussi01> no crispbread?
[13:43] <mneptok> if i spill cayenne pepper in my coffee, is it perkkelated?
[13:44]  * jussi01 sighs... such an abuse of the Finnish language
[13:44] <Myrtti> jussi01: I assume he has run out
[13:44] <mneptok> jussi01: dude, Finnish itself is an abise of vowels. turnabout is fair play.
[13:45] <jussi01> mneptok: no, finnish actually makes sense...
[13:45] <Mez> has Ljl just... died?
[13:46]  * jussi01 resists making a joke here...
[13:49] <Mez> FYI: Floodbot1 is running from my server
[13:50] <Mez> (under LjL's account)
[13:50]  * mneptok floods his pants
[13:52] <elkbuntu> Mez, you could email him. we cant answer for him
[13:52] <mneptok> he's Italian. he prolly has like an 8 month vacation.
[13:52] <Mez> elkbuntu, I have emailed him...
[13:52] <Mez> a few times
[13:53] <Mez> elkbuntu, but, seeing as it had been nearly an hour, I bought in a replacement bot
[13:57]  * Myrtti sighs
[14:28] <Tm_T> hi kids
[14:29] <Tm_T> passing by with one question, any kind of statistics how many persons are in our "main support channels" per day?
[14:31] <elkbuntu> only our word of 1200+average
[14:32] <Tm_T> hmm, that's how many persons are in #ubuntu, but how many visit it in one day period, hmmmm
[14:32] <Tm_T> maybe I can get something out of logs
[14:35] <mneptok> [mneptok@snowwhite] mneptok :: cat irclogs/2008/Freenode/\#ubuntu.08-08.log | grep joined | wc -l
[14:35] <mneptok> 4167
[14:35] <jpds> jpds@ks33313> grep "has joined #ubuntu" irclogs/Freenode/2008/08/11/\#ubuntu.log | wc -l                                                                     ~
[14:35] <mneptok> this (obviously) does not account for people /join-ing multiple times
[14:35] <jpds> 4083
[14:35] <Tm_T> mneptok: that's what I'm thinking too, though, remove duplicates
[14:36] <Tm_T> mneptok: I'll check duplicates out, one moment...
[14:46] <Tm_T> mneptok: anyway, you can get linecounts from grep directly, using -ic (ignore case and print hitcount not lines)
[14:48] <Mez> Tm_T, I personally prefer to | wc -l
[14:48] <Mez> it's more likely they'll understand what's going on there
[14:49] <Tm_T> true
[14:49] <Tm_T> but grep with -i is needed I guess
[14:51] <Tm_T> jpds: mind to try with -i ?
[14:51] <jpds> jpds@ks33313> grep -i "has joined #ubuntu" irclogs/Freenode/2008/08/11/\#ubuntu.log | wc -l
[14:51] <jpds> 4148
[14:52] <Tm_T> see, different results?
[14:54] <jpds> Hmm. irssi has all the joins as lower case tho.
[14:55] <Tm_T> jpds: no it doesnt
[14:56] <Tm_T> uno momento
[14:56] <Tm_T> 1656.29 -!- mode/#UbUntU-oPs [+v Tm_T] by ChanServ
[14:56] <jpds> Ahh. I see.
[14:57] <Tm_T> it follows your own casing
[15:00] <Myrtti> Tm_T: he's too novice ;-)
[15:01] <Tm_T> grep -i "has joined #kubuntu" irclogs/freenode/#kubuntu.log | uniq -s 6 | wc -l
[15:01] <Tm_T> that's the way, to get only unique joins, right?
[15:01] <Tm_T> someone with daily logs, please test
[15:02] <jpds> Tm_T: See result.
[15:03] <jpds> Same*
[15:03] <Tm_T> jpds: interesting, you used uniq?
[15:03] <jpds> Tm_T: Exactly as you did.
[15:03] <Tm_T> ok, so they should be unique hits then
[15:03] <Tm_T> or hmmmmm
[15:04] <Tm_T> jpds: add -u to unig
[15:04] <Tm_T> q
[15:04] <Myrtti> No you don't want -u
[15:04] <Myrtti> trust me
[15:04] <Tm_T> Myrtti: hm?
[15:04] <Tm_T> Myrtti: why not?
[15:04] <Myrtti> it prints *only* unique lines
[15:04] <Tm_T> Myrtti: aaaaa! skip both of duplicates
[15:05] <Myrtti> exactly
[15:05] <Tm_T> yeah, so my first version is correct
[15:05] <Myrtti> I learnt that the hard way
[15:05] <Tm_T> hooray, that means we have nice population there
[15:05] <Myrtti> though...
[15:05] <Tm_T> yes dear?
[15:06] <Myrtti> Discard all but one of *successive* identical lines
[15:06] <Myrtti> what do you get if you sort the grep first?
[15:06] <Myrtti> and uniq after?
[15:07] <Tm_T> hmmmm
[15:07] <Tm_T> jpds: actually you should use -i with uniq too, I noticed
[15:07] <Tm_T> Myrtti: sort grep?
[15:08] <Tm_T> aaa!
[15:08] <Myrtti> Tm_T: take a case of a b c a  joining
[15:08] <Myrtti> you still have a b c a joining, because between a joining, there's b and c joining
[15:09] <Myrtti> ie. joins aren't successive
[15:09] <Myrtti> so you'd prolly should *sort* first
[15:09] <Tm_T> true, though, apparently no real difference
[15:09] <Tm_T> grep -i "has joined #kubuntu" irclogs/freenode/#kubuntu.log | sort -bf | uniq -is 6 | wc -l
[15:10] <Tm_T> no, actually, I get more after sorting
[15:11] <jpds> Tm_T: Totally weird, I keep getting 4148.
[15:11] <Tm_T> yeah
[15:13] <Myrtti> jpds: well, you need to ignore the timestamps of course first
[15:14] <Myrtti> before sorting
[15:14] <Myrtti> Tm_T: ^
[15:14] <Tm_T> Myrtti: hmm, that's nice, why I didn't realise that
[15:17] <Tm_T> sort -k 2.1 hmmmmm
[15:18] <Tm_T> jpds: add that -k 2.1
[15:18] <jussi01> where did bestbot go?
[15:18] <jpds> 4098
[15:26] <Tm_T> jpds: so different result
[15:26] <Tm_T> jpds: try with 3.1
[15:27] <jpds> Same as above.
[15:27] <Tm_T> yep
[15:27] <Tm_T> so that should be it then :)
[15:37]  * Myrtti sighs
 (#G610E114M1) :) what is that?
[15:38] <Myrtti> MS Comic Chat
[15:38] <bazhang> aha thanks Myrtti
[15:40] <Tm_T> work ->
[15:57] <jpds> Someone !o.p*s Susan in ##linux for "trolling".
[15:58] <Myrtti> say what?
[16:07] <jpds> !staff | Spambot [IOD]OleRip-Tom in #ubuntu.
[16:10] <jpds> K-Lined, thanks!
[16:10] <bazhang> :)
[16:27] <Myrtti> dealt
[16:28] <bazhang> that was odd
[16:28] <bazhang> he is normally very helpful
[16:29] <Myrtti> accidental paste
[16:29] <bazhang> no wonder.
[17:10] <soundray> Is someone impersonating IdleOne?
[17:12] <bazhang> dont think so
[17:13] <bazhang> nope, most definitely not soundray
[17:14] <soundray> Okay :)
[17:54] <jpds> ubottu: tell Bruno_F about yourself
[17:57] <m_newton> hello
[17:57] <m_newton> can I get help configuring my channel
[17:57] <m_newton> I have registered it
[17:58] <m_newton> how do I guard it with chan serv
[17:59] <ikonia> m_newton: which channel ?
[17:59] <nalioth> m_newton: /msg chanserv help
[17:59] <nalioth> #ubuntu-ops is not a support channel
[18:00] <m_newton> ##newton
[18:00] <m_newton> and ok
[18:50] <bazhang> argh
[19:11] <bazhang> sirchuck is baron1984? aka almightycthulhu?
[19:15] <PriceChild> Yes.
[19:15] <PriceChild> bazhang: has he done something to stick out?
[19:16] <bazhang> PriceChild, that would be a fair understatement
[19:16] <bazhang> if a three hour rant on apple being bad counts as 'sticking out'
[19:16] <PriceChild> bazhang: quick summary or shall I just lastlog?
[19:17] <bazhang> that would be it in a nutshell.
[19:18] <PriceChild> bazhang: what do you think we should do?
[19:18] <bazhang> PriceChild, normal measures seem to be completely ignored at this point. such as asking for restraint etc
[19:21] <PriceChild> ok..
[19:23] <bazhang> Pi-ci is sorely missed
[19:23] <PriceChild> Uuu congrats ubottu
[19:24] <bazhang> agent_bob in #u
[19:24] <PriceChild> bazhang: what do you think we should do?
[19:25] <bazhang> PriceChild, out of my hands, admin wise
[19:26] <PriceChild> Ok.
[19:26] <bazhang> can watch, but really he is antagonizing everyone in there just about.
[19:26] <bazhang> like snux just now.
[19:29] <bazhang> wow
[19:31] <PriceChild> bazhang: hmm?
[19:31] <bazhang> the bit about him cleaning his m16
[19:32] <bazhang> right after mentioning enemies.
[19:48] <ompaul> ikonia, you in the house?
[21:15] <Myrtti> Hello
[21:15] <Seeker`> lo
[21:22] <Myrtti> Anything interesting going on?
[21:22] <jussi01> no
[21:22] <jussi01> boring night
[21:22] <jussi01> which is probably a good thing
[21:23] <Myrtti> It is
[21:23] <PriceChild> baron, almighty, sirchuck was back earlier in -ot
[21:23] <Myrtti> Yeah, noticed earlier
[21:24] <Myrtti> Was? Got kicked?
[21:24] <PriceChild> yep
[21:25] <Myrtti> Sad.
[21:26] <Myrtti> Always disappointed with people not living up to my best wishes, hopes and expectations.
[21:26]  * jussi01 hugs Myrtti
[21:28]  * jussi01 eyes bjwebb in #ubuntu-bots
[21:32]  * Myrtti finds a cool feature in her mirggi
[21:32]  * Myrtti slaps Mez around a bit with a large © Nokia N95 
[21:33] <Myrtti> <3
[21:33] <Myrtti> It has a slap!
[21:34] <jussi01> lol
[21:34] <jussi01> how does that work?
[21:34] <Myrtti> What, mirggi?
[21:34] <Myrtti> Or the slap?
[21:34] <jussi01> the slap thing
[21:34] <jussi01> I have mirggi...
[21:35] <Myrtti> Just pick someone on the list and slap. The programme fills out the phone model
[21:35] <jussi01> cool
[21:36] <Myrtti> "people on channel" "jussi01" "slap"
[21:36]  * Myrtti slaps jussi01 around a bit with a large © Nokia N95 
[21:36] <jussi01> nini... im tired.. talk later...zzzzzzzzzzzz
[21:36] <Myrtti> Nini
[21:38] <Myrtti> Sigh
[22:00] <nalioth> wtf is perlluver doing in #freenode?
[22:01] <ikonia> who is he ?
[22:01] <ikonia> he's obviously friends with m_newton the guy from before
[22:03] <jpds> We already have #ubuntu-youth and #ubuntu-students
[22:04] <ikonia> I've never seen the nick perlluver before
[22:04] <nalioth> jpds: please advise them so
[22:04]  * Myrtti joins #freenode
[22:05] <Myrtti> could someone recap me on what he has been doing there until now?
[22:05] <jpds> Myrtti: Advertising the above.
[22:05] <nalioth> Myrtti: just perlluver spamming ##ubuntu-teens
[22:05] <jpds> nalioth: It has been done.
[22:06] <Myrtti> a-ha
[22:06] <ikonia> it gives ubuntu a bad name / perception
[22:06] <ikonia> why would people in a random channel like freenode want to hear about it ?
[22:07] <jpds>  <+FloodBot1> ubuntu-teens (*!*@adsl-75-58-62-22.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) is being let into #ubuntu from a gateway
[22:08] <jpds> ikonia: look what julia17}{'s doing and compare ;-)
[22:08] <ikonia> logged off now
[22:08] <ikonia> ah
[22:09] <ikonia> I can't see that nick
[22:09] <jpds> Probably for the best.
[22:09] <ikonia> ha ha
[22:09] <ikonia> that bad
[22:09]  * jpds wonders what to do with all these teen channels.
[22:10] <ikonia> the official ones are a good thing surly
[22:10] <jpds> I still think we'll be better off with just one.
[22:11] <jpds> Instead of having to sit in and watch 70+ channels
[22:11] <ikonia> teens could be 13 - and mixing with 19 year old (students) could find maturity level differences ?#
[22:11] <ikonia> yes, I see the point of many channels
[22:12] <ikonia> in terms of overhead
[22:12] <ikonia> s/the point/your point
[22:14] <Myrtti> !pm > kynphlee
[22:18] <jpds> Now they want to make a "test" to give people +v in the channel.
[22:18] <elkbuntu> jpds, the problem is that most of the extra channels started because some teen thought he/she knew better than everyone else, and started their own rather than constructively contribute to the existing
[22:19] <ikonia> jpds: in ##ubuntu-teen
[22:19] <jpds> ikonia: Yeah.
[22:19] <elkbuntu> #ubuntu-youth
[22:19] <jpds> elkbuntu: Understandable, everyone wants to do something.
[22:19] <ikonia> jpds: do they have an issue with #ubuntu-youth for example
[22:19] <ikonia> jpds: as in what's the driver ?
[22:20] <jpds> ikonia: They'd rather have their channel. Similiar to -youth <-> -students
[22:20] <ikonia> jpds: but whats the difference ?
[22:20] <ikonia> eg: what doesn't fit into #youth or #teens
[22:20] <elkbuntu> ikonia, when #ubuntu-youth started, it was cool for about 5 mins until they realised they could be heros with their own version
[22:20] <ikonia> (just curious)
[22:21] <ikonia> elkbuntu: ok, so "youthful exuberence" took over
[22:21] <elkbuntu> preeeetty much
[22:21] <elkbuntu> it then became a teens-on-linux recruiting ground
[22:21] <jpds> Not much happens on those channels anyway (compared to -teens too).
[22:22] <elkbuntu> anyway, train awaits, taking the eee
[22:58] <jpds> PriceChild: You watching -teens? We're trying to extract "the purpose" by force.
[22:58]  * elkeee pokes ikonia
[22:59] <Seeker`> #ubuntu-teens?
[22:59] <jpds> Seeker`: Two ##.
[23:00] <elkeee> the purpose of -youth, and i can say this with confidence, was to encourage youth into development as a creative forn of expression
[23:00] <jpds> They agree to fuse with the other two, only if the people there come to theirs...
[23:00] <Myrtti> how about you unleash a MenZa there
[23:00] <Myrtti> ?
[23:00] <elkeee> jpds, youre dealing with ego, not purpose
[23:01] <elkeee> they dont want to be part of the # as they know it means following our rules
[23:01] <Myrtti> SUMMON MenZa 5/5 with no summoning sickness!
[23:01] <jpds> I have backup now.
[23:03] <elkeee> jpds, itll probably work out like the beryl-compiz merge did. a whole new identity, rather than assuming that of someone else
[23:04] <elkeee> which wasnt wholly new, but meh
[23:04] <elkeee> you get the idea
[23:04] <Seeker`> can anyone say "##ubuntu-uncensored"
[23:04] <elkeee> Seeker`, wed rather you didnt
[23:05]  * stdin apparently still has that on highlight
[23:05]  * Myrtti larts Seeker` 
[23:07] <jpds> Wahey Seeker`!!
[23:08] <Myrtti> ;___;
[23:08] <Seeker`> whats that face for Myrtti ?
[23:09] <Myrtti> you mades a booboo
[23:09] <Seeker`> Myrtti: did I?
[23:10]  * Myrtti looks at the audience on the other side of the fourth wall
[23:10] <Myrtti> yes, you did
[23:10] <Myrtti> dear audience, please pardon me while I poke Seeker` senseles
[23:10]  * Myrtti pokes Seeker` with The Pink Fluffy Pen of Poking™
[23:10] <Myrtti> *SQUEEEAK*
[23:10]  * Myrtti pokes Seeker` with The Pink Fluffy Pen of Poking™
[23:10] <Myrtti> *SQUEEEAK*
[23:11] <nalioth> guinea pig powered, of course
[23:11] <Seeker`> :(
[23:11] <Myrtti> once more
[23:11]  * Myrtti pokes Seeker` with The Pink Fluffy Pen of Poking™
[23:11] <Myrtti> *SQUEEEAK*
[23:11] <Myrtti> there
[23:12] <Seeker`> Myrtti: I did sorta help convince m_newton that he doesn
[23:12] <Seeker`> t need his own channel
[23:12] <Myrtti> wooooo!
[23:12] <Myrtti> wonderful
[23:13] <Flannel> Seeker`: What on earth do you mean?  doesn't everyone *need* their own channel?!?
[23:13] <Seeker`> Flannel: Everyone needs at least 6
[23:13] <Seeker`> if not 7
[23:13] <jpds> ..times 10.
[23:13] <Flannel> Seeker`: ah, good, glad we resolved that.
[23:13] <Seeker`> and at least 3 of those need to be ##ubuntu-
[23:13]  * Flannel lays claim to the #flannel* namespace
[23:13] <Myrtti> and the rest ##whatnot-ubuntu
[23:14]  * nalioth takes over #flannel* and dumps Flannel on the curb . . .
[23:16] <Flannel> noooo all my channels
[23:16] <Flannel> how will I ever survive?
[23:17] <Seeker`> Flannel: You wont
[23:17] <Flannel> nalioth: You're so hurtful, destroying all my dreams of being an operator in 1000 channels!
[23:17] <Myrtti> WHAT THE ...
[23:18] <Myrtti> since when has last.fm been political?
[23:18] <Myrtti> why ...
[23:18] <Myrtti> meh
[23:18] <Myrtti> Now playing "Peace Will Come (Georgia)" by Diana Gurtskaya.
[23:18] <Flannel> Myrtti: eh?
[23:18] <Flannel> Myrtti: Its a song.  They play music.
[23:18] <Myrtti> meh
[23:18] <Myrtti> it was an awful song!
[23:18] <Flannel> yes, well, thats why you've never heard it before
[23:19]  * Myrtti presses n
[23:19] <Flannel> Myrtti: I think it was about the Deep south, where they grow peaches and drink sweet tea.  Not the country.
[23:20] <nalioth> Flannel: um, yeah.
[23:28] <elkeee> tunnel
[23:29] <elkeee> whee tunnel