/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/08/12/#xubuntu.txt

SunStormdoes xubuntu have cd labels?00:08
zoredacheSunStorm: doesn't look like any where made for 8.0400:11
SunStormfound it00:12
zoredachewhere?00:13
SunStormdiy marketing, generic00:23
SunStormnot 8.04 :(00:23
zoredacheah, I didn't notice the generic one00:24
bassboi:|00:42
bassboii just installed UT200400:42
bassboiand it won't run :|00:42
zoredachewhy?00:43
bassboii have no clue00:45
bassboithe installer, upon finishing, told me to type 'ut2004' to run it00:45
bassboiso i tried that in the terminal, command not found00:45
bassboii even tried running some of the scripts in the install folder00:45
bassboi./ut2004-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory00:48
zoredacheperhaps you need to install 'libstdc++5'00:49
bassboilol00:50
bassboidoing that now00:50
bassboithx :)00:50
unix_infidelanyone know how big ubuntu-desktop is?01:34
bassboilike, 500 lbs01:40
bassboij/k... i know xfce is like 500MB or so01:40
unix_remotesorry about that.01:40
unix_remoteanyone happen to know how big xubuntu-desktop is off chance?01:40
bassboilemme see01:41
bassboii think i remember it being somewhere between 500~600MB01:42
bassboimaybe less01:42
unix_remotenot the iso, the xubuntu-desktop package.01:42
unix_remoteanyone01:45
unix_remote?01:45
Myrttithe iso takes the usual 650ish M01:48
Myrttixubuntu-desktop is only a metapackage01:48
MyrttiI bet cody would remember the size by heart01:48
unix_remoteMyrtti: i mean the size of the packages associated with the metapackages and all dependencies.01:48
unix_remotei plan on downloading ubuntu-server and then getting xubuntu-desktop01:49
Myrttihttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=61329401:49
Myrttido you have server hardware?01:50
unix_remoteMyrtti: just do aptitude install xubuntu-desktop again and see how many things it tells you to download.01:50
unix_remoteMyrtti: no, it's a lightweight install.01:50
MyrttiI think you can get ubuntu-minimal with the normal alternate disk too, so you don't have to use ubuntu-server which is basically (if I understand correctly) customized for server hardware01:51
unix_remoteMyrtti: no, that's not correct.01:53
Myrttidoing aptitude install xubuntu-desktop on this computer would do...01:53
MyrttiNeed to get 49.6MB of archives. After unpacking 229MB will be used.01:53
Myrttibut I've got gnome already01:53
unix_remoteMyrtti: good times.01:53
Myrttiso...01:53
* Myrtti shrugs01:53
unix_remoteMyrtti: ya, an extra 100MB or so isnt a big deal.01:53
unix_remotei wonder how big an ubuntu-server install is.01:54
bassboii wasn't talking of the iso01:58
bassboi>:(01:58
nubuntuhas anybody else had a recent rash of pop up windows in firefox on ubuntu or xubuntu?  i just closed out a survey window by some voicefive outfit, and earlier today some site popped up and clicked itself thru till it was telling me it was scanning my system for viruses... what up with this?02:19
hi-zhi, does this channel cover the xubuntu for xbox?04:03
bassboijingle bells05:23
chao1HI. I have an issue. I am trying to mount a hdd that is in an external enclosure. I have tried lsusb and sudo fdisk -l05:50
chao1I have not seen any mention of the partitions on the other device. Only the partitions that are on the IDE cable are listed05:51
chao1any thoghts?05:51
bassboiit doesn't auto-mount when you connect it?05:51
chao1no. I have issues on the partitions. I am trying to mount -o ro so that I can get the files off that I need and I think that the filesystem is messed up05:53
chao1I need to know which /dev/sdxx to type in so that I can mount it read only05:54
bassboihey what does "vme" in lshw mean?06:22
bassboivirtual machine environment... if i guess right?06:22
bassboiah nvm, virtual mode extensions06:24
keramhello06:25
kerami am trying to install xubuntu 8.04 but it is failing at the keyboard layout step06:25
bassboiwhat exactly you mean by failing06:25
keramit says that this step failed and exited with an error code '2'06:26
kerammore specifically: "ConsoleSetup failed with exit code 2..."06:28
bassboiwait a bit, someone may be able to help you more than I can06:29
keramok thanks06:29
mean-jeani'm having trouble booting a live cd on an old HP. It gets to a bootloader screen, where i choose to run or install, and then goes to boot, and says "buffer I/O error on device hda, logical block 0."06:30
mean-jeanI'm thinking it's a hardware issue, I think the harddrive is bad anyway, it wouldn't boot into XP06:32
nubuntumean-jean, where you from approximately?  florida by any chance?07:29
nubuntuoh, dang, mean-jean left the building07:29
=== Twinkletoes|W_ is now known as Twinkletoes|W
nubuntucan anyone help me with an ecommerce question?  if you are working on a new website, would you normally build that site directly within your webhosting services servers? or would you build it locally on your own computer, and then upload everything when ready to publish?  any thoughts?07:31
indragood mornign07:41
indramorning07:41
indradoes anybody know how writte rules for makefile07:41
keramindra, there are lots of resources on the net. heres the first hit on google: http://www.opussoftware.com/tutorial/TutMakefile.htm07:55
marchi@akk09:59
marcll09:59
lesshastehow would I turn off the screensaver?10:44
bassboiapplications ~> settings ~> settings manager ~> screen saver10:44
TheSheeplesshaste: you can also just kill the gnome-screensaver process in system monitor10:45
bassboiuncheck "activate screensaver when computer is idle"10:45
lesshastehmm.. it seems to be off already! Let me check something10:46
bassboii'm wondering if nvidia ever sorted out the issue with 8xxx and 9xxx series GPUs10:47
ablomenbassboi, my 8something works fine, havnt had a problem10:48
bassboiah, great10:52
bassboity10:52
bassboii've heard that 2D performance was abyssmal10:52
ablomenhmm weird, must be one of the lucky ones, the pc that i have a 8xxx in is still running gutsy, and it always worked fine10:53
bassboiok awesome11:00
bassboi8600gt it is then11:03
Quest_is there a way to erase data from ram while system is runing?11:44
TheSheepQuest_: what do you mean?11:47
Quest_physical ram. del data11:48
TheSheepQuest_: usually each process is in control of the memory it has allocated11:48
Quest_~$ sudo cat /dev/urandom > /dev/mem11:48
Quest_bash: /dev/mem: Permission denied11:48
TheSheepQuest_: what are you actually trying to do?11:49
arf`you can't overwrite the ram in use, so the only ram you can erase is the ram not in use, so you just have to use the free ram :)11:53
arf`Quest_: ie opening a big big file, or something like that11:53
bassboisystem overload11:54
arf`huhu11:55
the-ermI'm having an odd problem.  I'm setting up hot keys via applications->settings->keyboard  I have 3 scripts pause.sh/prev.sh/next.sh12:17
the-ermpause.sh executes, but next.sh and prev.sh do not.12:17
the-ermIt's weird.12:17
the-ermI can execute the scripts ./next.sh and ./prev.sh (they work)12:18
cody-somervilleYou might have to set the executable permission. :]12:18
the-ermLike I said ./next.sh and ./prev.sh work :)12:19
the-ermthere is' an x bit.12:19
the-ermthe file in ~/.config/xfce4/shortcuts/ even has the right stuff in it.12:19
the-ermmost perplexing in deed.12:23
cody-somervilleMaybe we'd be able to help more if you told us a bit more about your problem12:26
the-ermcody-somerville: What don't you understand?12:27
the-ermnext.sh, and prev.sh are not getting executed when I press the "next" and the "prev" button on the remote :) that's pretty much it.12:28
the-ermPause oddly enough works.12:28
cody-somervillethe-erm, can you pastebin the related config files?12:29
the-ermsure12:29
the-ermhttp://pastebin.ca/116787012:30
the-ermAs near as I can tell that's the file that's being used.12:34
cody-somervillethe-erm, can you change the pause button to execute the next script?12:35
cody-somervillethe-erm, lets see what that does12:35
the-ermok12:35
the-ermworks12:37
the-ermWell it executes the next script.12:37
the-ermIt's like something else is catching the event.12:37
the-ermI'm going to check out gnome-control-center and see if something is set in there.12:41
cody-somervillehmmm12:44
the-ermI think a setting in gnome or kde is interfering.12:48
the-ermTime to do a major grep.12:49
the-ermMaybe if I restart X ...12:56
TheSheepfamous last words...12:58
cody-somervilleTheSheep, where are the autostart config files again?13:00
TheSheepcody-somerville: local in ~/.config/autostart, global in /etc/xdg/autostart13:00
cody-somervilleThanks13:02
cody-somervilleI'm wondering how much of a performance gain we'd get from letting Thunar run something when printers connect instead of having that python printer config applet running all the time.13:03
cody-somervilleOh, I guess it also shows current print jobs and stuff which I'd miss13:04
IronJanhi. I try to use xfce to anage my desktop. but everytime i logout and login again, it is managed by gnome. i already tried to use the option "let xfce manage your workspace" (don't know the the exact English label of this option), but it did not help. it is reset by loggin out. can anyone help me, to get xfce to manage my Desktop?     PS: Panels are ok, only my desktop is managed by gnome13:04
TheSheepIronJan: kill nautilus and save the session when logging out13:18
IronJanok thanks a lot. it worked^^13:21
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KardosoHi15:00
KardosoIs wubi works with Vista?15:01
PsynoKhi0hi15:06
allu1hi16:58
wolsallu1: dpkg -l|grep wine16:59
allu1do i put that in terminal?16:59
allu1wols: nothing happened17:00
wolsno wine installed17:00
allu1yes17:00
allu1i have installed it17:01
allu1but i can't find it17:01
allu1+my xubuntu can't shut down it self if i sost klik shut down :(17:02
allu1and i can't get  flash instaled :(17:02
allu1or soundcard to works17:02
Myrttiso is this xubuntu or eeexubuntu or anything else odd?17:03
allu1or irssi or eny othere :(17:03
allu1i download this from xubuntus web site its hardy i quess17:03
allu1also might be that i installed it on dell optiplex gx 117:04
allu1not very new  computer :P17:04
allu1and how du i make some short of sorcuts or  something like that on my desktop?17:04
allu1*do17:05
zoredacheright click on the desktop and choose create launcher17:17
allu1ty17:18
wolsallu1: if dpkg -l doesn17:33
wolsallu1: if dpkg -l doesn't find it you haven't installed it. not with a .deb and it's not supported any other way17:33
chris_debianHi, all.18:34
chris_debianI currently have a Ubuntu install.  The more I use Gnome, the more I hate it.  I love xfce.  Can anyone tell me what I need to apt-get and/ or change in my /etc/apt/sources.list, so that I can turn my box into a Xubuntu one?18:35
chris_debianThanks,18:35
chris_debianChris.18:35
chris_debianMissing text: The more I use Gnome, the more I hate it......18:36
wolsxubuntu-desktop18:37
zoredachechris_debian: apt-get install xubuntu-desktop19:03
chris_debianCool.  I'll do that, now.19:04
mnhow do I upgrade to FF3 in Xubuntu 8.04.120:54
mn?20:54
zoredachein 8.04.1 ff3 should be the default20:55
mnno its 220:55
mni downloaded 3 for linux and i can figure out how to extract it20:55
mncant*20:55
zoredacheyou shouldn't install a version you downloaded... you should use a version from the repository20:55
mnrepository? (sorry im a linux n00b)20:56
zoredacheto make life easier many distros give you a tool to automatically install tons of prepackaged software.  In the case of ubuntu/xubuntu you use something like synaptic or apt-get20:57
zoredachemn: so if you run 'firefox -v' in a terminal what does it say?20:58
mnI dunno.  Before lemme ask if i can even do this on a livecd?20:59
zoredacheyou can, but it won't stick around...21:00
zoredacheif you are using the livecd you DO have firefox 321:00
mnI downloaded the .iso and burned it. i didnt order it.  you sure i got 3?21:01
zoredache99.5% sure21:02
mnk. ill boot up from the cd and type firefox -v21:03
bassboiLOL21:03
zoredacheor look at help->about21:03
bassboi* mn has quit ("ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.1/2008070208]"21:03
zoredachehe is probably confused because the firefox buttons don't look like the buttons in windows21:04
bassboii agree21:05
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mnok, so I do have ff3.  It doesnt have tools -> options like in ff3 for windows.  What's the equivalent?21:33
TheSheepmn: edit->preferences21:33
TheSheepmn: for consistency with all other apps in linux :)21:33
mnah, thanks.  That's exactly what I was lookin for :)21:34
mnwhats the chance of corrupting other data when partitioning and installing?21:42
TheSheepmake a backup21:42
TheSheepthere are two kinds of people: those who make backups and those who will be making backups21:43
zoredacheheh... thats great...21:46
mnLol that seems like a lot of work though21:46
Gnarfozheh21:46
Gnarfozcertainly sounds true enough21:46
mnis the chance of failure really that great?21:47
zoredachemn: making backups should be easy... either save up for a spare external hard drive, or use one of the internet based services21:47
zoredachemn: the chance of failure is directly related to the technical ability and level of linux experience of the user21:48
mnyeah21:48
mni better do a backup then21:48
TheSheepmn: it's not that the chance is so great, it's that the cost is so huge21:48
TheSheeponce it happens to you, the chance is irrelevant :)21:49
mnlol i im not bad with computers but my linux experience almost doesnt exist21:49
mnthat's true21:49
mncan i just make a .iso image of my C:\ and then burn that to a disk to backup my computer21:50
TheSheepbut your disk doesn't use an iso filesystem21:52
TheSheepyou can make an image of it, though, but it's probably pretty large21:52
bassboiare you tryin to backup your windows install?21:54
TheSheepmn: just backup your data, not the things you can recreate easily21:55
mnwell i don't have my boot disks for windows anymore21:56
TheSheepmn: how large is your disk?21:56
mnHard drive is like 55 GB.  lemme check though21:57
TheSheepheh, that a dozem dvd disks :)21:57
TheSheepdozen21:57
mnwell only 14.19 GB are used21:58
TheSheepthat's just 4 disks21:58
TheSheepmn: maybe you have an usb drive or something?22:00
mn1 GB22:00
TheSheepor an extra hdd you could backup to22:00
mnnope just a 1 GB USB drive22:02
TheSheepwell, backup your important data, I guess you can get the windows disks from somewhere if it damages something, the chance is small22:03
mnWell i got 4 700 MB cds and a 1 gig usb drive so i can do that22:04
Bytor4232Quick question22:20
Bytor4232how do I get rid of that keyring annoyance?22:20
zoredacherun a network without encryption?  :|22:22
Bytor4232I could do that at my house, but that won't fly at my corporate locations.22:22
Bytor4232sheesh22:23
Bytor4232I'm such a dork22:24
Bytor4232maybe I should check "automatically unlock this keyring22:24
bassboia dork22:25
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mnis there a way to search for a file by name like ctrl + f in windows?23:03
favromn: in thunar?23:09
mnit doesnt matter.  i just need to see if i have a certain application23:10
mnthunar would probably be best though23:11
favromn: I use locate in a terminal - locate "file"23:12
favromn: if it is a new file then - sudo updatedb && locate "file"23:12
mnwhere can i get a c++ ide like Dev-C++ that will compile for linux?23:23
zoredachethere are lots available... startup add/remove and choose your favorite...23:25
zoredacheI mostly do webdev.  On the few occasions when I need to do something with c/c++ I just use a text editor...23:26
mni can't find anything on add/remove23:37
mnnevermind23:38
mni got anjuta ide23:38

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