/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/08/13/#kubuntu-devel.txt

JontheEchidnamornfall: whatever happened, adept is working with kdesudo again :)00:01
mornfallJontheEchidna: Oi. That'd be good. : - )00:02
apacheloggermaybe some toniomagic(tm)00:03
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: kgrubeditor published00:04
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: did you take a look at kdelibs?00:07
apacheloggeroh well00:08
apacheloggerfound a build log00:08
apacheloggerhooray00:08
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: nope, I didn't00:10
apachelogger*uploading fix for kdelibs*00:11
JontheEchidnamornfall: Oh, one thing I noticed. It'd be nice if after you fetch pacakge lists, if it finds updates, that you automatically be taken to the Updates view instead of the Progress view00:21
mornfallJontheEchidna: Well, we don't want to upgrade automatically here, I think. So that might be more confusing than useful. Or, are you talking of updater?00:22
JontheEchidnasorry, I am talking about updater00:23
mornfallJontheEchidna: In that case, yes, that might make sense.00:32
mornfallI'm adding that as a "could" item to TODO.00:32
JontheEchidnaya, it's nothing pressing, just would be convenient00:32
* JontheEchidna is lazy :P00:33
JontheEchidna:(00:39
JontheEchidnaI just found an article that attributes systemsettings to suse00:40
JontheEchidnaunless we ripped it off from them? :P00:40
JontheEchidnaWell it's a good read, anyway: http://www.northdavisroad.net/2008/08/reimagining-the-desktop/00:42
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: that is a bit unfair no one wants to be father of kickoff but everyone of systemsettings00:44
apacheloggerwhile the latter is a mac os ripoff anyway :P00:45
JontheEchidna:P00:45
Tonio_hello from tunisia :)09:22
Tonio_vacations time :)09:22
Tonio_Riddell: how was the akademy ?09:23
NightroseTonio_: still going ;-)09:25
JucatoNightrose!!!!!!!!09:25
JucatoTonio_!!! *chokes* !!!!!09:25
NightroseJucato!!!! ;-)09:25
Tonio_hey Jucato, Nightrose :)09:26
jussi01apachelogger: ping09:38
jussi01:(10:48
RiddellTonio_: akademy was, is and will be great11:20
Jucatolol nice answer :)11:21
Jucatothough it will be "gauckademy" next year :)11:21
apacheloggerjussi01: pong11:23
jussi01apachelogger: yay, you are here :D11:24
jussi01apachelogger: I saw you mentioned on your blog a ff qt deb... could I have a copy? please?11:24
apacheloggernot yet11:25
apacheloggerstill needs polishing11:25
jussi01ok11:25
jussi01:(11:25
* jussi01 is currently waiting on the hg checkout...11:25
apacheloggerlol11:26
apacheloggerthe co is actually the fastest of all tasks ;-)11:27
jussi01hehe11:27
jussi01apachelogger: you know I always get a laugh out of your hackergotchi :P11:28
apacheloggerI guess that's the primary usecase ;-)11:28
jussi01true...11:30
apacheloggerin fact11:30
apacheloggerRiddell: can you please import my planet ubuntu hackergotchi to planetkde?11:31
jussi01:D11:39
Riddellapachelogger: no, sorry can't do hackergotchis11:39
apacheloggerok :(11:39
* Artemis_Fowl loves KDE magic. Turns out it was easier to create the KCModule for KGRUBEditor...12:31
apacheloggerKDE++12:32
apacheloggerha12:32
apacheloggeruh12:32
apachelogger-rw-r--r--  1 me me 272M 2008-08-13 13:30 firefox-qt-dbg_0.1~hg20080812-0ubuntu1~ppa1_i386.deb12:32
apacheloggerNightrose: indeed the amarok-nightly-dbg package seems rather small now :P12:33
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: ping12:33
jussi01apachelogger: so its ready now?12:33
apacheloggerno12:33
jussi01the stupid hg thing wont checkout for me :/ :(12:33
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: pong12:34
apacheloggerjussi01: it just takes forever12:35
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: do you think it makes sense to ship the -dbg package?12:35
jussi01apachelogger: what kind of forever?12:35
apacheloggerJucato: the checkout takes forever12:35
jussi01apachelogger: its still going from here: [jussi@jussi-navicron][13:23][~/ffqt]% hg clone http://hg.mozilla.org/users/vladimir_mozilla.com/mozilla-qt mozilla-qt12:35
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: with FF-Qt? Yes12:35
apacheloggereh jussi01 even12:35
jussi01hehe12:35
jussi01its now 14.35 :(12:36
* apachelogger strips features from the package12:36
Artemis_Fowlkgrubeditor seems a bit ugly fullscreen -.- too much empty space12:41
Artemis_Fowlseele: ping12:41
jussi01apachelogger: Id appreciate if youd ping me wheneve you have a package to test :) thanks :)12:42
apacheloggeryah12:42
jussi01apachelogger: I can cope if it eats my machine - so no worries there ;) :D12:42
apacheloggerit will12:43
* apachelogger can't influence the .mozilla dir12:43
jussi01hehe12:43
\shapachelogger: are you working on the new (sip4+pyqt4) release + recompile kdebindings?12:43
nixternalgood morning12:44
\shapachelogger: or should I prepare some packages?12:44
\shhey Nightrose12:44
\shand nixternal12:44
nixternalhehe12:44
\shdamn tabcompletion ,-)12:44
JontheEchidnaany coredevs around?12:44
nixternalthey are all on vacation12:45
nixternalwhat's up JontheEchidna?12:45
JontheEchidnabug 25673312:45
ubottuLaunchpad bug 256733 in konversation "new upstream release (konversation 1.1)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/25673312:45
nixternalyay, 1.1? let me guess, yet another KDE 3 release?12:45
JontheEchidnaya, the last kde3 release12:46
nixternalheard that one before12:46
\shnixternal: did you see a kde4 svn version?12:46
* nixternal looks12:46
nixternal\sh: haven't paid attention honestly...I use Irssi12:46
JontheEchidnaRiddell said he uploaded it but it never showed up12:46
\shapachelogger: I'll work on the new pyqt4+sip4+pykde4 stack...12:46
\shwho has the power to upload to main minus riddell?12:53
* ScottK does12:53
ScottKnixternal does12:53
nixternalI do?12:53
\shScottK: can I give you a pointer to a package to push to main?12:53
nixternal:P12:53
ScottK\sh: You can give me a pointer, but I only got 3 hours sleep last night, so no guarantees I'll feel coherent enough to upload it.12:54
ScottKnixternal: You did get core-dev right (or is that a hallucination of my sleep deprived mind)?12:54
apachelogger\sh: k12:55
\shScottK: ok...let me do the other package and we go with new stuff12:55
nixternalScottK: ya, just messin' with ya12:56
ScottKOK.  Thanks.12:56
* Jucato glares at apachelogger for mishighlighting him12:57
* apachelogger hands Jucato a mozilla cookie12:57
Jucatowrong kookie :P12:57
* Jucato takes it anyway12:57
* apachelogger makes some coffee while hg is doing it's monster checkout again12:58
Jucatoapachelogger: btw, do you know what the plan is for installing a full KDE 3.5 in Intrepid?12:58
apacheloggerthere is no12:58
apacheloggerwe replaced KDE 3.512:58
Jucatoah ok12:58
apacheloggeronly webdev and bindings are remaining12:58
JucatoI thought that 3.5 would be transferred to something like /usr/lib/kde3 and ~/.kde312:59
Jucatothanks12:59
nixternalJucato: ya, download some antique linux distro if you want 3.5 :P12:59
apacheloggerlol12:59
Jucatonixternal: yeah like hardy :)12:59
nixternalthere are still Dapper Drake images out there from like 10384308 years ago12:59
Jucatonixternal: not for me though. just wanted to know since people might be asking in #kde and say that no one's answering them in #kubuntu-kde4 :P12:59
nixternaldudes!!!!12:59
nixternalKDE 4 totally owns Gnome in compisiting btw13:00
apacheloggerof course13:00
apacheloggerit's KDE13:00
nixternalat work, we have docking stations for our laptops with 2 monster LCDs13:00
JontheEchidnaIn 4.2 it'll get Desktop Cube/Cylinder/Sphere and an improved Destkop Grid13:00
Jucatoconsidering kwin owns metacity, with or without compositing, that's not surprising :)13:00
nixternaland I can triple screen them, and set a different background on each monitor13:00
nixternaloh, and compisiting still works after that13:00
jussi01#kubuntu-kde4 will disappear at intrepids' release...13:00
nixternalyay KDE 4!!!13:00
apacheloggeromg13:00
JontheEchidnajussi01: :(13:00
apacheloggerpoor -kde4 :(13:01
jussi01JontheEchidna: it will merge with #kubuntu13:01
Jucatoyeah... poor apachelogger and JontheEchidna's kingdom :)13:01
* JontheEchidna doesn't even hang out in #kubuntu13:01
nixternalargh, I need to start getting ready for work :(13:01
apacheloggerwe could make #kubuntu-cool-people13:01
apacheloggerand fwd -kde4 to that13:01
JontheEchidnahaha13:01
Jucatobye nixternal13:01
jussi01apachelogger: no!! #kubuntu-kool-people :P13:01
jussi01get it right13:01
apachelogger#kkp13:01
jussi01hehe13:02
Jucatonixternal: don't forget to poke me when you start working on docs. I totally have no idea what needs to be done or how it has to be done13:02
apacheloggeryarr13:02
apacheloggermy new mozilla-qt tar is only 26.8 mib13:02
\shwe just could : "Dear Nokia, please tell the world: GNOME 3 will be KDE5" ,->13:02
nixternalJucato: working on them now, but I need to do a little more clean up and I will see what section(s) you want to work on13:02
apacheloggerthe thing is ... I probably removed all the stuff I need ;-)13:02
jussi01hehe13:02
Jucatonixternal: anything that doesn't deal with networking :)13:02
nixternalgroovy13:02
nixternalI will do the networking again probably anyways13:03
* jussi01 just wishes he could actually get a tar :/13:03
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: http://ubuntufacile.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/qt_logo.png13:03
nixternalit is a tricky section as people want us to document hooking up modems :/13:03
* nixternal gets ready for work13:03
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: horrible artwork13:04
* apachelogger uses it13:04
JontheEchidnagot it off a spanish ubuntu blog13:04
JontheEchidnaor maybe Italian13:04
apacheloggerohhh13:05
apacheloggerit needs to be freeee!13:05
apachelogger...that reminds me I probably should strip binaries from the tarball :S13:05
JontheEchidnamight be a good idea13:06
JontheEchidna:P13:06
apacheloggerwell13:07
apacheloggerit doesn't really matter13:07
* apachelogger is not planing on moving this into the archives13:07
apacheloggertoo hackish13:07
Artemis_Fowlapachelogger: I took your advice and now the KCModule+app are in a single tarball13:10
Artemis_Fowlapachelogger: but13:10
Artemis_Fowlis there a way to tell cmake which of the 2 to install?13:10
Artemis_Fowldo you have any idea?13:10
apacheloggercmake 2.6 has a component technology13:11
apacheloggerI don't know whether you can abuse it for that kind of stuff13:11
apacheloggerusually it's meant to define which stuff is dev related, which lib etc.13:11
apacheloggerArtemis_Fowl: otherwise you can always make it a cmake option13:12
apacheloggeronly turn the app on by default for example13:12
Artemis_Fowlhow is this done13:12
apacheloggerah13:12
Artemis_Fowl?13:12
apacheloggertoolkit/toolkit-tiers.mk:43: js/src/build.mk: No such file or directory13:12
apacheloggerI hate it -.-13:12
apacheloggerArtemis_Fowl: the former is probably described in the cmake documentation13:13
apacheloggerfor the latter you can take a look at kdebindings13:13
apacheloggeralmost any binding for soprano, plasma, khtml etc. is made via an option which is either on or off by default13:13
Artemis_Fowlgood13:22
Artemis_FowlI think what I found in kdebindings fit my needs13:22
Artemis_Fowlfits*13:22
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: I heard back from ivan13:24
JontheEchidnaIvan Cukic the Lancelot dude13:24
JontheEchidnaThe library (liblancelot) is LGPL, and the rest is also LGPL ATM (it will be13:25
JontheEchidnachanged to GPL for the application and the applets - it was a copy-paste13:25
JontheEchidnamistake). So should copying contain GPL, LGPL, or information about which13:25
JontheEchidnalicense applies to which part, and to contain the licenses in a separate file?13:25
vorianmorning!13:25
JontheEchidnahi13:25
JontheEchidnaAnybody know what's considered proper in Lancelot's case?13:26
vorianthey should fix it13:26
JontheEchidnaThe stuff I pasted was Ivan's questions13:27
JontheEchidnastarting with "The library..."13:27
vorianhrmrm13:28
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: just add COPYING and COPYING.LIB13:29
voriani don't see any copyright13:30
vorianpfft, apachelogger13:30
vorianyou guys checkout lithium power manager?13:30
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: he only needs to ensure that every source file has a proper license/and copyright headers and that complete copies of the GNU licenses are available13:30
apacheloggervorian: what?13:31
vorianapachelogger: yus!13:31
* apachelogger also wants to note that there are 3000 power manager applications for KDE 413:31
vorianthis one works great for lappies13:31
* apachelogger also wants to suggest that g-p-m should get a feature where screen light dims after $time of inactivity13:32
vorianbug 25717913:32
ubottuLaunchpad bug 257179 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] lithium-power-manager for kde" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/25717913:32
apacheloggervorian: looks like a g-p-m ripp-off :P13:33
vorianwell, it is13:33
vorian:P13:33
* apachelogger senses a workaround13:34
JontheEchidna!workaround13:34
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about workaround13:34
JontheEchidnaomg13:34
JontheEchidnahow do you teach ubottu stuff?13:34
voriando ! <thing> is <thing>13:34
vorianor ubo ttu <thing> is <thing>13:35
vorianthen the botmasters will approve/reject your request13:35
JontheEchidnaubottu workaround is ...and apachelogger hates workarounds!13:35
vorianmostly the latter13:35
apacheloggerlatter++13:35
apacheloggerwe need an rbot :P13:35
apacheloggerkubottu13:35
vorianhmmm13:36
apacheloggervorian: li is not properly licensed :P13:36
jpdspython++;13:36
vorianI noticed, thus it has yet to arrive on revu13:36
vorianso do we want a supybot then jpds apachelogger?13:37
jussi01hehe13:37
\shapachelogger: rainCt wrote a cool bot ,->13:37
vorianwe'll steal jussi01's source code13:37
* vorian runs13:37
jussi01vorian: go for it13:37
* apachelogger wants an rbot :P13:37
jussi01!botclone13:37
ubottuThe plugins that make ubottu are available from https://code.launchpad.net/~tsimpson/ubuntu-bots/tweak13:37
jpds\sh: Yeah, but... it's in Python.13:38
* apachelogger can't work with python13:38
\shjpds: python is da language even for KDE ,->13:38
jpds\sh: apachelogger is a Ruby person.13:38
voriancould do an eggdrop13:38
apacheloggerI always end up reading docs instead of coding13:38
apacheloggervorian: Oo13:38
\shapachelogger: you are young, you have time to deal with ruby...I'm old, I don't have time anymore to learn japanese ,-)13:38
apacheloggervorian: that is so 90's13:38
jussi01vorian: if you want a bot, just clone ubottu - its real easy... :)13:38
vorianso?13:38
apachelogger\sh: kenji is way cooler than that stupid arabic stuff anyway :P13:39
\shapachelogger: therefore I write python, because it's more natural ,-)13:39
JontheEchidnaeggdrops are omg<313:39
vorianjussi01: do a /ns info unclesam13:39
jussi01oh... :)13:39
jussi01forgot you ran that one13:39
apachelogger\sh: I never noticed the naturality about python :(13:39
apacheloggeralways seemd rather unnatrual really13:39
apacheloggeror maybe I am just damaged by markey13:39
apacheloggerI shouldn't have grown up with amarok13:40
apacheloggervery bad idea13:40
apacheloggervorian: li does have such a dim feature!13:40
* apachelogger loves osx rip-offs13:40
\shapachelogger: to quote thekorn: diff_users = set((i.registrar.realname, i.registrar.lplogin) for i in self.projectlist if not i.registrar.lplogin in users)13:40
apacheloggerwhat is set() doing?13:41
\shapachelogger: creating a set? :)13:41
apacheloggerOo13:42
\shapachelogger: rtfm harhar ,-)13:42
apacheloggerunnatrual13:42
apacheloggerI tell you13:42
apacheloggervorian: who is upstream for g-p-m nowadays?13:42
\shanyone with main power: http://archive.linux-server.org/pyqt-stuff/ <- sip4-qt3 new version + python-qt4 new version please upload..it will fix bugs bugs bugs13:43
apacheloggerbtw, we could just clone ubottu and let stdin maintain it :P13:43
apachelogger\sh: see, I should have applied for coredev13:43
\shapachelogger: why didn't you? :)13:43
apacheloggerbecause you said it's pointless anyway, because of the upcoming ACL :P13:44
\shapachelogger: oh this acl stuff is already running ...there were rumours13:44
apachelogger\sh: yeah13:44
apacheloggerthe dkms maintainer got acl because dkms moved to main13:44
vorianjussi01: i haven't had unclesam running for some time now13:45
apacheloggerbut it's a trial run and only will get public after success13:45
apacheloggerwhich could be days or weeks or months13:45
\shapachelogger: any clue how to apply for those acls? I could do the python stuff for qt/kde again ,-)13:45
vorianwoo, another crash report13:45
jussi01vorian: right. I remember it from when I used to hang out on #ubuntuforums :)13:45
vorian:)13:45
apachelogger\sh: TB I think13:45
jussi01grr... my machine has issues13:46
jussi01it wont download large files :/13:46
apachelogger\sh: see Minutes from the Technical Board, 2008-07-15 on devel-announce13:46
jussi01hence my problems with the hg stuff :(13:46
apacheloggermake[4]: *** No rule to make target `memory/jemalloc/Makefile.in', needed by `memory/jemalloc/Makefile'.  Stop.13:46
apacheloggerwell13:47
voriani would love to see g-p-m actually be able to handle suspend and screen dim13:47
apacheloggerautotools is one gigantic workaround13:47
apacheloggervorian: wfm13:47
apacheloggeranyway13:47
* apachelogger gotta visit a friend13:47
vorianriiiiiiiight13:47
apacheloggersomeone get g-p-m to get a dim when idle feature13:48
apacheloggerand find out what else needs to be stolen from lithium/osx on that topic :P13:48
vorianhahahaha13:48
apacheloggersomeoneelse get kubottu up'n'running13:48
apacheloggerand get mozilla to swtich away from autotools13:49
* apachelogger shudders13:49
apacheloggercya13:49
voriantoodles13:49
seeleArtemis_Fowl: pong, but i'm at the workshop14:17
Artemis_Fowlseele: we'll talk propably later because I have to go in a couple of mins14:17
seeleArtemis_Fowl: ok.  i probably wont be back until this weekend14:20
seelei'm leaving tomorrow14:20
Artemis_Fowlah ok. no problem. it's about some minor layout issues in the SystemSettings module14:21
seeleok14:22
Riddellseele, Nightrose: kubuntu dinner tonight?14:50
seeleyes!14:50
seeleany other kubunteros here?14:50
Riddellsime could count14:50
seeleel could too14:50
Riddelloo hyes14:51
Riddellooh yes14:51
eagles0513875i found a serious bug and im not sure if its in the ubuntu server kernel or vbox14:51
Riddelleagles0513875: neither are we14:51
eagles0513875it says that it requires the features that are not on teh cpu 0:6 unable to boot please use the appropriate kernel for your cpu14:52
NightroseRiddell: sounds good - but we are having an amarok dinner tonight - you both can probably join14:53
NightroseRiddell: or maybe tomorrow on the boat?14:54
seeleNightrose: i'm gone tomorrow noon14:54
ncfi1013_i installed itunes thru wine in linux and still can't get it to "see" my ipod. i opened up both rhythmbox and songbird; they both "see" my ipod, but i can't get them to sync it. how can i do all three of these things: get itunes to see my ipod thru wine, sync my ipod in rhythmbox, and sync my ipod in songbird?14:54
\shncfi1013_: 1. wine -> #ubuntu-wine and ask yokozar 2. buy a mac ;)14:55
Nightroseseele: ah too bad14:56
Nightrosethen today somehow14:56
nixternalyay work!14:59
RiddellNightrose: where is the amarok dinner?15:04
NightroseRiddell: not decided yet15:05
Jucatohopefully on a table? with chairs?15:09
JucatoNightrose: you have a very seductive stare/glare in one pic btw :)15:09
seeledinner this week tends to become an epic adventure15:09
NightroseJucato: :P it is horrible15:09
Nightroseseele: hehe indeed15:09
JucatoNightrose: I believe BCoppens mislabed it.. it should have been "looking at me seductively" :P15:10
Nightrosehaha15:10
devfilRiddell: can you take a look at kdegames? kde4.mk seems to drop some files and the build fails15:17
=== Knightlust is now known as Initial_M
Riddelldevfil: I know, it's most strange, no idea why16:13
davmor2Riddell: just starting tests on kub live16:16
davmor2Riddell: did you fix the oem issue do you know?16:16
Riddelldavmor2: no I'm afraid not16:16
davmor2okay I'll not bother testing it for now leave it till tomorrow or something :)16:17
devfil_Riddell: you should revert last change if it causes ftbfs16:18
apacheloggerno16:18
apacheloggerwe should fix it16:18
devfil_apachelogger: if you know how to fix it do it16:20
apacheloggerlooking into right now16:20
Riddellthe only difference should be the added rules for generating .pot files16:21
Riddellthere's shouldn't be anything that deletes random files16:21
devfil_Riddell: if I'm not wrong the .sh file remove the files16:23
Riddellerr, really?16:25
Riddellthat's evil16:25
Riddelljr@wido:~/src/kdegames/kdegames-4.1.0/kollision>grep rm Messages.sh16:26
Riddellrm -f *.cpp16:26
Riddellevilness16:26
Riddellwhy ever would it do that?16:26
davmor2Riddell: Did it pee you off?16:27
Riddelldavmor2: which?16:28
davmor2the evilness16:28
davmor2if so that's why?  You should know by now that it has to bite back from time to time to keep you on your toes ;)16:29
devfil_Riddell: it is not evil or it should do rm -rf /, maybe only strange :)16:31
davmor2Riddell: ping16:51
davmor2apachelogger: ping16:52
apacheloggerdavmor2: pong16:52
Riddellhi davmor216:53
davmor2don't know if you can help.  Installer is dying at 82%16:53
davmor2scanning mirror16:53
davmor2oh hang on it's just leaped back into life16:54
davmor2it's still taking nearly 20 minutes though16:54
davmor2and 32bit is still on 82% :(16:55
* apachelogger has no clue about the installer16:55
apacheloggerdavmor2: maybe the mirror is just slow?16:55
davmor2I don't know I can dl stuff from it fast enough...16:56
davmor2Oh well don't worry seems to be working again now :)17:03
* apachelogger blames the mirror :P17:04
* apachelogger also blames mozilla17:04
davmor2apachelogger: You can blame anything you want it still happened :P  Mind you it is at least working now :)17:09
davmor2Riddell: your printer-config-kde 0.11 has got in so the printer config doesn't work still17:11
Riddell?17:14
davmor2Riddell: the  printer config thingy that you linked to in your temp space yesterday to fix the breakage isn't in today's iso so it still doesn't work.  0.10 is still on the iso not 0.1117:16
Riddellgrr, it didn't get accepted17:18
davmor2:)17:18
davmor2just letting you know :)17:18
Riddellhmm, the network here doesn't seem to like ftp17:20
Riddellthat might explain it17:21
davmor2Teach you to go off to bleedin' conferences then wont it ;)17:22
apacheloggerhm17:23
apacheloggerssh > ftp17:23
apacheloggerfor that matter sftp > ftp17:23
RiddellI don't think I can upload with sftp17:24
apacheloggerRiddell: why wouldn't you?17:26
apacheloggerif you have ssh access sftp should work pretty much17:26
Riddellapachelogger: how?17:26
apacheloggerdolphin sftp://user@host17:26
apacheloggerRiddell: sftp is based upon ssh17:26
Riddellapachelogger: to the ubuntu upload thing17:26
apacheloggerRiddell: ah you mean via dput?17:27
Riddellyes17:27
apacheloggerok, that indeed isn't going to work17:27
apacheloggerwhich makes we wonder why we use ftp at all17:27
Riddellit was the fashion, back in the day17:29
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seelehum.. humgry17:42
seelestill people in the hci room though17:42
Jucatoseele: can't you eat in the hci room? or is that bad usability? :)17:45
seeleJucato: no i want real food17:46
seelei only got to eat half my salad from lunch today because we were so busy17:46
Jucatoas opposed to fake food?17:46
Jucatoaaah17:46
Jucato:)17:46
seelesebas!17:47
seelehavent seen you in a while17:47
seele(in the channel)17:47
Jucatohe just disconnected 2 minutes ago, and reconnected :)17:48
seeleoh17:49
seelehah17:49
Jucatoyou really do need food17:50
seeleRiddell: still hungry or did you leave already?17:50
Luke^elo all chatting..18:22
Luke^i am sorry for starting in such way..can i ask a question to kubuntu users?18:25
Luke^hmm a silent for a while..:)18:32
Luke^anyway...18:32
Luke^i am owner of hp pavilion dv 6860 (intel core 2 duo 2.1GHz T8100 32/64 bits, NVidia gforce 8400 GS 256)...18:34
yuriyLuke^: question to kubuntu users, and for support, go to #kubuntu18:34
Luke^this is laptop...:)18:34
Luke^are there any problems (with hardware) with running kubuntu 8.04 on this machine?18:35
Luke^ooo i didnt see your answer..sorry18:35
Luke^i'll check this channel, thanks18:35
Tonio_Riddell: have you seen http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Lithium+Power+Manager?content=8694318:58
Tonio_Riddell: copycat of guidance-power-manager, but c++18:59
Tonio_Riddell: maybe we should consider using that one no ?18:59
Tonio_apachelogger: any opinion ?19:01
Tonio_apachelogger: c++ means kde starts faster, that wouldn't be bad19:01
ScottKIt also means I wouldn't be able to fix bugs in it since I don't know c++.  Yes, please.19:04
devfil_ScottK: lol19:05
Tonio_ScottK: well technically c++ is way easier to package for example :)19:05
Tonio_but technically it doesn't seem to deal with my brightness, while guidance-power-manager does :)19:05
Tonio_so let's keep it ;)19:05
ScottKExcept Guidance is already packaged so it's by definition easier.19:06
ScottKPython isn't hard to package anyway.19:06
Tonio_ScottK: not as simple than c++/kde19:07
Tonio_ScottK: but well let's keep the application that works the best :)19:07
Tonio_ScottK: python isn't hard to package when a python app is using distutils or so...19:10
ScottKYes.  That's true.19:10
ScottKI'm glad I didn't have to do the original Guidance packaging.19:10
Tonio_ScottK: but as I said, it doesn't work as well as gpm, so let's forget about it for the moment :)19:10
Tonio_ScottK: I'd like guidance to go distutils :)19:10
ScottKForgotten.19:10
* Tonio_ is really AMAZED by opera/qt4 version19:11
Tonio_just a bit of tweaking in the fonts and it really looks like a pure kde4 app19:11
Tonio_and works soooooooooooo well19:11
Tonio_not free but well.... good app and respecting the standards btw ;)19:12
* ScottK wonders about the mozilla-qt port.19:17
ScottKSomeone should package that.19:17
Tonio_ScottK: well, that's WAY too buggy yet :)19:18
Tonio_ScottK: that's just a POC atm19:18
ScottKOK.19:18
* ScottK will wait then.19:18
Tonio_ScottK: but could be nice in the future19:18
Tonio_ScottK: I tested 4 days ago and couldn't surf more than..... 1 minute befire it segfaulted :)19:18
ScottKRight.  The gtk one is slightly better than that.19:19
ScottK;-)19:19
ScottKGotta run.  Back later.19:19
Tonio_bye19:20
Artemis_FowlRiddell, seele, apachelogger: maybe you would like to check this out: http://artfowl.blogspot.com/2008/08/kgrubeditor-application-kgrubeditor.html19:34
alleeHolI received an e-mail with:  ...20:15
alleeHolwell, well, the congratulations must go to the wonderfull people working20:15
alleeHolon Kubuntu. They have made it so easy for everyone...20:15
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coreymon77so22:49
coreymon77hows that konversation updating coming along22:49
coreymon77?22:49
JontheEchidnaWell, it would be out in Intrepid right now22:50
JontheEchidnabut Riddell is having troubles with ftp at Akademy22:50
JontheEchidnaso the package never got uploaded22:51
Riddellmm22:51
coreymon77so if you are not using crazy uber-buggy developer version, its not out22:51
Riddellanyone got a computer I could ssh into?22:51
coreymon77:P22:51
coreymon77 /sarcasm sure, ill let you get into my computer over the internet and have access to w/e you want, ill give you all the access information right now!22:52
coreymon77 /end-sarcasm22:53
coreymon77:P22:54
Riddellwe have this thing called unix which allows multi user systems22:54
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JontheEchidnahalp: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/16764048/buildlog_ubuntu-intrepid-i386.konversation_1.1-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz23:18
yuriyRiddell: GNU is Not Unix ;)23:26

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