[00:00] <richard> ign0ramus: thanks, its working again now :)
[00:00] <ign0ramus> richard: yeah, sometimes it's weird like that.  glad that it's working again.
[00:01] <ign0ramus> richard: there's probably a perfectly good reason and solution, but until i find it, i just reboot.
[00:01] <richard> the restart didnt work - the shut down, wait, boot up did
[00:01] <richard> i wouldnt be surpised if it had overheated or something stupid like that - it came out of a pc i found on a skip last week
[00:02] <Hydrant> lenea: why is the fact you're using ext2 a problem ?
[00:02] <favro> the prog that does the check is e2fsck - ext2 isn't the issue
[00:03] <vilhelm> Hello i have a small problem.. i cant move any program that i open up on the desktop
[00:04] <vilhelm> it's like the programs are locked to the desktop
[00:04] <lenea> Hydrant : well i've heard ext2 tend to mess up at drive checks
[00:05] <lenea> anyway brb reboot(and this'll take long as usual)
[00:07] <richard> ign0ramus: ah, if i use the network card it kills the sound card in a slow and painful way :)
[00:07] <Hydrant> how safe is a version upgrade with kubuntu ?
[00:09] <tsuna27> i have a problem with kopete
[00:09] <tsuna27> it will not let me log on
[00:10] <vilhelm> i am using kopte atm
[00:10] <tsuna27> it says my password is incorrecr but when i use aim express it says that is the password is right
[00:10] <tsuna27> what should i do
[00:10] <vilhelm> hmm w8 a sec
[00:19] <tsuna27> anything
[00:25] <Hydrant> tsuna27: hey
[00:25] <Hydrant> tsuna27: are you sure your username is going in the right spot ?
[00:25] <tsuna27> yea
[00:28] <tsuna27> anything else
[00:28] <Hydrant> does any other account work under kopete ?
[00:29] <tsuna27> i only have aim
[00:30] <Hydrant> try #kopete, I don't know how to help other than making sure the password is right
[00:42] <v6lur> hi.. how can i keep indenting in my comment at kde-apps.org?
[00:42] <v6lur> using [indent] tags?
[00:43] <v6lur> if yes, why do those add extra blank line between every line?
[00:57] <vilhelm> Kubuntu does not recognise my floppy.. what can I do?
[01:01] <favro> vilhelm: is the floppy listed in /etc/fstab?
[01:01] <bdizzle> where is the apt-cache stored?
[01:01] <bdizzle> I thought it was in /etc/apt, but its not there
[01:02] <favro> bdizzle: /var/cache/apt/archive
[01:02] <favro> *archivess
[01:02] <bdizzle> is that where APTonCD pulls from?
[01:02] <favro> **archives
[01:02] <favro> yep
[01:03] <bdizzle> I need every .deb file installed on my computer to transfer to another, and as I was cross-comparing the list APTonCD gave me, it was missing quite a few of the dependencies
[01:03] <bdizzle> itd be nice to have them all in one place then going nutty over it
[01:06] <almroa_> Does anyone know off the top of his/her head if USB-interface headsets are 'standardized' and well supported in Kubuntu? Or is it the same sort of situation that we have in wifi? :P
[01:07] <zzl> hi guys
[01:07] <zzl> how do you get wifi working in kubuntu?
[01:07] <bdizzle> either use knetworkmanager or wicd
[01:07] <zzl> I have used this site before, but now it doesn't work
[01:07] <bdizzle> I prefer wicd personally, better interface
[01:07] <zzl> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/atheros-5007eg-with-madwifi-on-i386-platform.html
[01:07] <Hydrant> how do I set a certain uid or user for ownership of a mount point in fstab ?
[01:08] <zzl> I've used that link to get wifi before, but now it won't let me
[01:09] <zzl> weird..
[01:09] <bdizzle> okay, I went through adept and it claims I have a lot more packages than what I actually have in apt-cache. How do I re-download all of them for APTonCD?
[01:10] <favro> Hydrant: /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     vfat    defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1 - gives me read write access
[01:16] <Lukstr> Hi! I just received an Asus Eee PC 901, anyone know how well Kubuntu supports it?
[01:17] <bdizzle> Asus was pretty good that I heard of, in terms of linux capabilities
[01:17] <tekstacy> When I try to dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, it stops after asking me about my keyboard.
[01:17] <bdizzle> I guess burn a live cd and try it out?
[01:17] <tekstacy> I need to fix monitor settings....
[01:17] <zzl> someone help me with my wifi
[01:17] <zzl> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/atheros-5007eg-with-madwifi-on-i386-platform.html
[01:17] <zzl> this doesn't work for it
[01:17] <tekstacy> What should I do?
[01:18] <zzl> im using konversation
[01:19] <zzl> how do i get to ubuntu irc?
[01:20] <mefisto__> Lukstr: look at http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewtopic.php?id=38450 and search the rest of that forum too, as well as the ubuntu forums
[01:21] <Lukstr> it's a bit messy
[01:21] <zzl> how do i get to ubuntu irc?
[01:21] <zzl> how do i get to ubuntu irc?
[01:22] <bdizzle> join #ubuntu
[01:22] <Lukstr> bdizzle: there's no cd-drive :)
[01:22] <bdizzle> huh?
[01:22] <Lukstr> in the eee
[01:22] <bdizzle> oh
[01:22] <bdizzle> hehe
[01:22] <Lukstr> have to use a usb stick
[01:23] <bdizzle> I know there is a way, but I don't know how
[01:23] <Lukstr> well, I do at least
[01:23] <bdizzle> but you should be able to install off the stick
[01:23] <bdizzle> okay, how do I use chmod to change permissions of my jump drive to allow me to remove files from it. Right now its claiming its a read-only file system
[01:24] <mefisto__> Lukstr: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EeePC
[01:24] <bdizzle> gah, jump drive gone bad, not good
[01:24] <bdizzle> remind me to always use "safely unmount"
[01:25] <Lukstr> mefisto__: Kubuntu uses Ubuntu's repos I presume?
[01:25] <mefisto__> Lukstr: the only difference is that kubuntu uses kde instead of gnome
[01:26] <Lukstr> okay.
[01:26] <bdizzle> how do I check the current permissions of a directory?
[01:26] <favro> ls -l
[01:26] <bdizzle> okay, and then how do I change those permissions to allow writing?
[01:26] <almroa_> Does kubuntu use KDE4 now by default? I'm on dialup, so I haven't upgraded in a while.
[01:27] <favro> bdizzle: you need to mount it as writable
[01:27] <Lukstr> mefisto__: most of that refers to older eee models
[01:27] <bdizzle> most say this: drwxrwxrwx , but the jump drive is saying this: drwxr-xr-x
[01:27] <Lukstr> rather than the most recent, which is quite different hardware-wise
[01:28] <favro> bdizzle: try sudo chmod a+w /path/to/mountpoint
[01:29] <bdizzle> chmod: changing permissions of `Lexar': Read-only file system
[01:29] <favro>  bdizzle: you need to mount it as writable
[01:29] <bdizzle> how?
[01:29] <bdizzle> from command line I guess
[01:29] <bdizzle> I tried mount --help, didn't quite understand it
[01:30] <tekstacy> I installed a new monitor, but kcontrol won't let me use my full res, and dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg won't let me change video settings
[01:31] <favro> sudo mount -o umask=0 /dev/sd?1 /media/mountpoint
[01:31] <favro> bdizzle: ^
[01:32] <bdizzle> it claims its already mounted
[01:32] <bdizzle> assuming I did it right
[01:32] <favro> bdizzle: sudo umount it first the mount
[01:33] <favro> *then
[01:33] <bdizzle> gah
[01:33] <bdizzle> how do I check what the sd?1 is?
[01:33] <bdizzle> along with the mount point?
[01:33] <favro> df -h
[01:34] <bdizzle> it claims mount point /media/Lexar does not exist (Lexar is name of jump drive)
[01:34] <bdizzle> n/m
[01:35] <smarty> I'm having a VERY strange issue... I logged off last night with about 20% of my 25GB HD available (tripple partition) and I sign on now, and this thing is laggy as *bleep* and it says that 100% of the HD is full (only 9.1 MB remain available)
[01:35] <bdizzle> awesome, got it
[01:35] <smarty> Any one know what is going on?
[01:35] <bdizzle> um, okay....
[01:36] <bdizzle> after copying files, I tried to unmount it, and got the error that it cannot open /media/.hal-mtab
[01:36] <favro> smarty: does the command   df h   say it is full?
[01:36] <smarty> i'll try, sec
[01:36] <favro> bdizzle: where was the drive mounted?
[01:36] <bdizzle> n/m, got it to fix itself somehow
[01:37] <bdizzle> okay, other strange question
[01:37] <bdizzle> somewhere along the line, I did apt-get autoremove and cleared out part of my cache
[01:37] <bdizzle> I now regret that heavily
[01:37] <smarty> favro : the command is "df h" in konsole?
[01:37] <bdizzle> is there a way to get back all of the dependencies so that I can use APTonCD to get my other computer working?
[01:38] <favro> smarty: it is   df -h
[01:38] <smarty> Ah, right, lol..
[01:38] <favro> in konsole
[01:38] <favro> !aptoncd
[01:39] <smarty> dev/sda3 Size=26G Used=25G Avail=9.1M Use%=100% Mounted on = /
[01:40] <favro> smarty: check in /var/log for large logs
[01:40] <smarty> ok, thank you by the way
[01:40] <favro> bdizzle: if you know the deps then you d/load them again...
[01:41] <bdizzle> okay, how though? adept only lets you do it once to auto-download all of the dependencies
[01:41] <bdizzle> what do I do when two necessary packages or dependent upon each other to install?
[01:42] <smarty>  favro: The application Dolphin (dolphin) crashed and caused the signal 11 (SIGSEGV) ... (the application crashed)
[01:42] <favro> smarty: how large are the logs?
[01:43] <smarty> After going back, 7.9 megs
[01:43] <favro> bdizzle: you would need to have apt looking at the aptoncd and the repos
[01:44] <bdizzle> grr
[01:44] <favro> smarty: if the logs aren't taking up all your space something else is
[01:44] <favro> bdizzle: what happened to the other comp?
[01:45] <smarty> I've been checking all the properties of the files (from root) and they all are less than 5GB (2 are 2GB, and 1 is 4GB)
[01:45] <smarty> The rest are minor megs
[01:46] <bdizzle> um, well, I'm using a Linksys WUSB54G to get access to wireless to be able to connect to my school network, since the wired connection won't work thanks to their Cisco Clean Access Agent that requires a) windows b) java  c) a standard browser (ie, IE and if I'm lucky, firefox)
[01:46] <bdizzle> unfortunately, its moving at a grand total of 12 kb/s, even though its on a 1 MB/s server
[01:46] <smarty> Ouch
[01:46] <bdizzle> my laptop thankfully is connected without a problem (current on that now)
[01:47] <bdizzle> so I'm having to try to install dependencies from the .deb files, as adept crashes with sigserv errors every time I try to download things
[01:47] <bdizzle> meaning it "forgets" which packages it has installed, and doesn't download them properly
[01:52] <smarty> If you dont mind me asking, what college are you in?
[01:54] <bdizzle> ODU
[01:54] <bdizzle> Old Dominion U in VA
[01:55] <bdizzle> I went to them today and they said they don't support any linux distros, and the only one they sorta-support is Red Hat because they think their servers might run on it because it sounds important
[01:56] <smarty> Ah, I see - nice
[01:56] <smarty> I'm assuming their servers are RedHat as you stated
[01:57] <almroa_> At my uni, the CS department runs its own wifi network, and all of its stuff is in Linux. I'm lucky. :)
[01:58] <smarty> :)
[01:58] <Guest15217> ho
[01:58] <Guest15217> HI
[01:58] <bdizzle> but yeah
[01:58] <bdizzle> so pretty much I'm on my own with this
[01:58] <smarty> I didnt even read what your issue was, once sec
[01:58] <zapan> hello
[01:58] <almroa_> I'm down here in UVa-Wise, by the way. ;)
[01:59] <Guest15217> i am venezuelan... my englih is not very good,,, help me !!!!!!
[01:59] <Guest15217> i am venezuelan... my englih is not very good,,, help me !!!!!!
[01:59] <Guest15217> i am venezuelan... my englih is not very good,,, help me !!!!!!
[01:59] <Guest15217> i can not use the msn
[01:59] <crazy_bus> I have a usb headset but the audio is only coming out of the left ear.  Is there any way to fix this?
[02:00] <Guest15217>  i can not connet
[02:00] <zapan> hey can i create an user account for using root commands and two other account for user or is it useless to do that ?
[02:00] <Guest15217> i am venezuelan... my englih is not very good,,, help me !!!!!!
[02:00] <smarty> Guest, please dont spam the IRC chat
[02:00] <Guest15217>  i can not use the msn
[02:01] <mefisto__> zapan: you can use sudo <commands> to do commands with root privileges
[02:01] <bdizzle> ah, okay
[02:01] <bdizzle> msn wont' work on kubuntu, or linux for that matter
[02:01] <bdizzle> use Kopete or Pidgin
[02:01] <bazhang> Guest15217, install amsn or use pidgin
[02:01] <mefisto__> zapan: or if it's a gui (windowed) program, use kdesu instead of sudo
[02:01] <Guest15217> i don't know ,, how use kopete???
[02:02] <smarty> bdizzle: I'm going to have to agree with favro... you'll need to manually reinstall all the repos, unless you have a backup
[02:02] <zapan> mefisto__: ok so that's not really an account but a password u give when u install ubuntu ?
[02:02] <Guest15217> i try to connect to msn .. but not happen
[02:02] <bdizzle> yeah, working on that now
[02:02] <smarty> yes
[02:03] <bdizzle> I'm basically running through adept on the laptop that is working, setting it to re-install all of the libs and python files, then going to copy it over and go through dependency hell until I get enough running for APTonCD
[02:03] <bdizzle> okay, the other question
[02:03] <Guest15217> well,,, i'm going to try,, thanks!!!!!!
[02:03] <smarty> :), long work
[02:03] <bdizzle> yeah, I know
[02:03] <gleyve> test
[02:04] <bdizzle> with a Linksys WUSB54G, I noticed in Gutsy that I had to use ndiswrapper to get it to work
[02:04] <mefisto__> zapan: yes, you give the password of the first account you created. (I think that's right. I've never created more than one login account)
[02:04] <bdizzle> in Hardy, it works, but BARELY
[02:04] <bdizzle> are there different directions for using ndiswrapper in hardy, or same method as before?
[02:04] <smarty> As far as I know, they are the same method
[02:07] <smarty>  bdizzle: this (may) help ... http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/joomla/index.php?/component/option,com_openwiki/Itemid,33/id,tips/
[02:09] <bdizzle> okay, will re-installing all of the libs have any adverse effects on my laptop that is working?
[02:09] <michael> #ubuntu
[02:09] <mefisto__> bdizzle: if it's all working, why are you reinstalling them?
[02:10] <bdizzle> because I need the .deb files in apt-cache to put onto another computer that isn't able to connect to internet fully
[02:10] <smarty> mefisto: bdizzle had cleared the cache, which inturn removed the repos... he's working on reinstalling them
[02:10] <mefisto__> ok
[02:11] <bdizzle> yeah, what a great way to spend my 22 b-day. In my dorm room, broke, bored, lonely, and unable to connect to other IRCs thanks to the school filter
[02:11] <crazy_bus> kmix only has one volume slider for my usb headset and sounds only come out of the left ear.  Is there anything I can do?
[02:11] <mefisto__> bdizzle: you can use the -d option with apt-get, which will download the debs but not install them, etc
[02:12] <bdizzle> yeah, but how would it know to install them from adept like that?
[02:12] <bdizzle> I don't know how to go thorugh command line and have it download all of the packages I already have
[02:13] <bdizzle> if I had a portable hard drive with 40 GB or so, I'd copy the entire linux partition onto it, then copy it over onto the desktop and go from there
[02:13] <bazhang> bdizzle, will this other computer ever have internet?
[02:13] <bdizzle> it has a wireless adapter, Linksys WUSB54G that I can use
[02:13] <bdizzle> basically, the school is retarded and makes you download Cisco Clean Access Agent, a windows-only program that downloads via java
[02:14] <bdizzle> now since java, firefox, and wine don't come as part of a fresh install, I'm having to do all that manually
[02:14] <bazhang> bdizzle, why not vm windows for that
[02:15] <bdizzle> to kick start it, I discovered apt-on-cd, but am having problems getting that to run on the desktop. So I'm trying to run through and install all the dependencies via a jump drive
[02:16] <bazhang> ah, the hard way.
[02:16] <shadowhywind> hay all. Running into a bit of a small problem. I am tar'ing something (tar -cvjf backup.tar.bz2 -C source .) when i go to untar it (tar -jxvf backup.tar.bz2) i get data intergraty issues, decompression failed.. any ideas?
[02:16] <bazhang> bdizzle, or clone your install to an external drive and start up with that
[02:17] <bazhang> !clone
[02:17] <bdizzle> yes, but I don't have an external drive
[02:17] <bdizzle> I have a 2 GB jump drive
[02:17] <bazhang> and you cleared your apt cache?
[02:17] <bdizzle> much of it, yes
[02:18] <bdizzle> as it is, just the libs on my laptop is about 185 MB
[02:21] <bazhang> bdizzle, just vm another distro that has everything ootb then update your ubuntu
[02:21] <bdizzle> ...how?
[02:21] <bazhang> bdizzle, via virtualbox
[02:22] <bdizzle> I'll look into it
[02:22] <bdizzle> let me see if this works first, then go from there
[02:22] <bazhang> way easier then what you are trying to do, considering a)you dont have an external drive, and b)you cleared your apt cache
[02:23] <bazhang> bdizzle, you've been at this a week or so, right?
[02:23] <bdizzle> not really. This week only a night
[02:23] <bdizzle> last week two nights
[02:24] <bazhang> good luck then.
[02:24] <bdizzle> heh
[02:24] <bdizzle> well, the apt-cache is about to get refilled once I re-install the packages and such
[02:24] <bazhang> vm of distro would have you there in the time it took to dl the distro
[02:24] <bdizzle> yeah, but what distros would have all of that?
[02:24] <smarty> Wait a sec, isnt there a log the monitors all the repos installed?
[02:24] <bdizzle> or just any distro that uses GNOME?
[02:25] <bdizzle> yeah, but if I can't access the repos, I have to get them from the local ones
[02:25] <bazhang> bdizzle, there are a number, but kinda against ubuntu policy to advertise them here :)
[02:25] <smarty> A true
[02:25] <bdizzle> lol
[02:25] <bdizzle> any debian based I suppose?
[02:26] <bazhang> yup
[02:26] <bazhang> if by debian you mean ubuntu :)
[02:26] <bdizzle> yeah, ofcourse ;)
[02:28] <bdizzle> wait, why does firefox require gnome packages?
[02:28] <bdizzle> I thought it was pretty much platform independent
[02:30] <aaronwi> .
[02:41] <moes> ! compiz
[02:41] <Fieldy> ! virtualbox
[02:41] <bdizzle> is it possible to get an .iso file to run from a jump drive?
[02:42] <bdizzle> or do you have to unpack it via a CD?
[02:42] <bazhang> www.pendrivelinux.com
[02:42] <moes> !compiz-fusion install
[02:45] <shadowhywind> when using tar, is there a way to have it automatically break the tar once it reachs 2 gb?
[02:48] <Fieldy> i'm a new kubuntu user, but a long-time linux user -- I am a bit confused, as I thought adept was the front-end for managing packages etc. I'm looking at the virtualbox install instructions, and they mention using apt-get on the command line. does this mean that adept and apt are keeping track of software two different ways? or is it all unified?
[02:48] <Daisuke_Laptop> it's all unified
[02:48] <Daisuke_Laptop> if you prefer adept, you can do that and it's the same package
[02:48] <Daisuke_Laptop> all adept (and synaptic) are, are front-ends for apt
[02:49] <DarkTan> how do i get to the GUI from the command line boot of 7.10?
[02:49] <smarty> Fiedly, you have the option to use Adept for GUI or if you prefer CLI you can use the Konsole. For example, sudo *apt-get* install (packagE)
[02:49] <Fieldy> Daisuke_Laptop: okay, thanks for the clarification; i don't see virtualbox anything showing up in a search in adept, though, i'll try again
[02:50] <Fieldy> ah there it is. had to get the options right.
[02:50] <Fieldy> smarty: ok :)
[02:50] <smarty> Fieldy : sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ose
[02:50] <smarty> Never mind, you got it, lol
[02:53] <DarkTan> any good suggestions for a distro for an old pos laptop then?
[02:53] <smarty> Kubuntu :)
[02:53] <DarkTan> really?
[02:53] <DarkTan> (not sarcasm)
[02:53] <DarkTan> i figured it would want a little more power
[02:54] <smarty> Specs on comp?
[02:54] <DarkTan> don't know at the moment
[02:54] <DarkTan> the windows drive when kaput
[02:54] <DarkTan> i took my old drive for another broken laptop and put it it
[02:54] <DarkTan> it in*
[02:54] <DarkTan> it has 7.10 on it, but had about 20 errors on boot and went to command line
[02:55] <smarty> Try to reinstall it then
[02:55] <DarkTan> is there any way to launch the gui from the command line?
[02:55] <smarty> If you are saying that it encountered 20 errors and was forced to enter the CLI, I dont think it'll be able to lauch Dolphin
[02:56] <smarty> Not sure though
[02:56] <vilhelm> Hello does anyone know why my login box where i should enter my username and password is so far to the right that i cant see it? when i'm logged on everything is fine
[02:56] <DarkTan> how would i try to launch it?
[02:56] <smarty> But if you want to lauch dolphin, just enter (in the command) dolphin
[02:56] <mefisto__> DarkTan: xubuntu is pretty good for slow machines
[02:56] <smarty> It'll bring you to /home
[02:56] <DarkTan> your screen res is too high, vilhelm
[02:57] <vilhelm> but it works fine when i'm logged on :/
[02:57] <DarkTan> you have to tell it to stretch i think
[02:57] <DarkTan> i had the same problem on my old lap top
[02:57] <DarkTan> also you can  manually tell it where to put the log one box
[02:57] <DarkTan> don't remember how tho....
[02:57] <vilhelm> maybe I can drag the box ?
[02:58] <DarkTan> yes you can
[02:58] <DarkTan> Smarty: I get "Cannot connect to X server"
[02:58] <mefisto__> vilhelm: you should be able to move the mouse to the edges of screen and it will sort of move to reveal the rest
[02:58] <DarkTan> so i guess, i need to reinstall
[02:59] <DarkTan> can i do a direct upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04 and KDE 4 ?
[03:00] <smarty> I think you can, if iread it correctly somewhere
[03:00] <smarty> I'll see if I can find that page, one sec
[03:00] <vilhelm> brb DarkTan
[03:01] <smarty>  DarkTan : http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[03:01] <smarty> Scroll down to Kubuntu section
[03:02] <vilhelm> DarkTan it worked
[03:02] <DarkTan> thanks, but i'm gonna have to d/l any wya
[03:02] <DarkTan> my disks are DVD's this only has a CDROM
[03:03] <vilhelm> cant see my floppy disk anywhere in Kubuntu what's wrong? :P
[03:03] <vilhelm> does it need mounting?
[03:04] <DarkTan> sometimes
[03:05] <vilhelm> how do i mount a floppy disk driver? :P
[03:05] <vilhelm> i'm a newbie
[03:05] <bdizzle> what's a floppy disk :P
[03:05] <DarkTan> ....i forgot
[03:05] <vilhelm> haha :)
[03:05] <smarty> heheh.
[03:05] <DarkTan> in about and hour and a half i'll be trying to do the same thing
[03:06]  * DarkTan can't belive that 8.04 is a single CD while 6.06 and 7.10 took whoel DVDs....
[03:06] <vilhelm> well i've been here configuring my Kubuntu now for 10 hours :D
[03:06] <DarkTan> my last install took three weeks....then my hard drive died
[03:06] <vilhelm> ohh :(
[03:06] <smarty> That sucks, big time
[03:07] <DarkTan> yeah
[03:07] <DarkTan> happened several months ago. haven't felt like dealing with it
[03:07] <DarkTan> now i got this old pos so i'm gonna play with it
[03:08] <DarkTan> it's old enough not to have a NIC
[03:08] <DarkTan> brb
[03:08] <vilhelm> dont understand why people say that xgl does not work correct with kubuntu i have notice no problem with kubuntu .. it works just as good as it did in Ubuntu
[03:10] <bdizzle> why do I keep getting an error about amarok podcast desktop thingy?
[03:11] <vilhelm> what does it say?
[03:12] <bdizzle> I dunno, I deleted the offending file
[03:13] <vilhelm> ok
[03:13] <lil_blue> #//
[03:13] <bdizzle> something about error on the file amarok_addasapodcast.desktop in /usr/share/apps/servicemenus/amarok_addasapodcast.desktop had an invalid id or something
[03:17] <moes> When i switch window managers from Kwin to compiz I lose the ability to switch workspaces
[03:21] <vilhelm> moes how many workspaces do you need?
[03:21] <vilhelm> do you want the cube?
[03:21] <moes> vilhelm..Four
[03:21] <moes> Also want the cube and ability to rotate
[03:22] <DarkTan> well, off to wait for my download
[03:22] <vilhelm> do you use Advanced Desktop Effects Settings ?
[03:22] <DarkTan> i'll be back when i can't get the wireless card working
[03:22] <moes> vilhelm..Yes on ccsm
[03:23] <vilhelm> moes you need to change the horizontal virtual size to 4
[03:23] <vilhelm> and the vertical to 1
[03:23] <vilhelm> i had the same problem today
[03:23] <moes> Yes to 4 and1
[03:23] <vilhelm> yes
[03:24] <another_david> Multimedia (video, sound) on my machine is broken. I'm having no luck getting it back. Help?
[03:24] <mrksbrd> i keep forgetting the name of the software to run windows wifi driver
[03:24] <boggystudios> I've installed the nvidia drivers from the nvidia website and all is good until I reboot.  When my system reloads I think it tries to load the wrong nvidia module, even though I didn't think I installed the other one I think it is in the linux restricted package.  Would taking the linux restricted package off my system fix the problem?
[03:25] <mrksbrd> !wifi
[03:25] <vilhelm> why did you install the drivers from the web? ;/
[03:25] <vilhelm> didnt it autodetect your card?
[03:26] <boggystudios> nope
[03:26] <mrksbrd> whats the name of the program to run windows wifi driver?
[03:26] <vilhelm> what geforce card do you have boggy?
[03:27] <vilhelm> I have Geforce 6800 GT and it autodetected my card
[03:28] <another_david> NDISwrapper (for running wifi?)
[03:28] <mrksbrd> ty
[03:30] <another_david> Trying to fix multimedia playback on my machine. Any takers?
[03:30] <boggystudios>  I've installed the nvidia drivers from the nvidia website and all is good until I reboot.  When my system reloads I think it tries to load the wrong nvidia module, even though I didn't think I installed the other one I think it is in the linux restricted package.  Would taking the linux restricted package off my system fix the problem?
[03:30] <vilhelm> what graphics card do you have boggy?
[03:31] <bdizzle> I HAVE INTERNET!
[03:31] <bdizzle> ndiswrapper. while dirty, it works
[03:31] <vilhelm> :D congratz :D
[03:32] <bdizzle> damn that sucked
[03:33] <vilhelm> anyone in here that actually has tested cedega?
[03:33] <mrksbrd> vilhelm: I've noticed some nvidia cards require an upgrade of kubuntu first before restricted driver will work
[03:33] <bdizzle> yeah, I need to figure out why my nvidia card isn't working properly
[03:33] <vilhelm> mrksbrd I have no problems with my card :)
[03:33] <mrksbrd> if he just loaded the system as I did it will be default resolution
[03:33] <bdizzle> how do I even check what card I have in there? I forgot and just kinda through it in
[03:34] <vilhelm> :D
[03:34] <mrksbrd> lpci
[03:34] <mrksbrd> or lshw
[03:35] <vilhelm> have to go to bed soon :P
[03:35] <bdizzle> okay, its a GeForce FX 5600 card
[03:36] <mrksbrd> u running 8.04
[03:36] <bdizzle> yeah
[03:36] <vilhelm> ok then it might be more trick 4 u than 4 me ;/
[03:36] <bdizzle> why is that?
[03:36] <mrksbrd> goto kmenu....system.....hardware drivers manager
[03:37] <bdizzle> I mean, it works, its just ... wierd
[03:37] <mrksbrd> see if it is listed & enabled
[03:37] <bdizzle> hold on, computer is updating for the first time
[03:37] <vilhelm> :))
[03:37] <bdizzle> then I get to spend all night with the package manager, yay!
[03:37] <vilhelm> I love the package manager :D
[03:37] <vilhelm> it's so easy  :)
[03:38]  * mrksbrd wishes automatix was still around
[03:39]  * Alex135 just finished installing Kubuntu on his laptop to get it ready for school.
[03:39] <mrksbrd> was so easy to get restricted stuff
[03:39] <Alex135> mrksbrd: you should try the medibuntu repos, it allows much more support for videos and such
[03:40] <mrksbrd> i will get it working just have to run my first update
[03:40] <mrksbrd> once it does that seems to work fine
[03:41] <vilhelm> why does so many people say that glx does not work correct in Kubuntu? it works fine for me :)
[03:41] <mrksbrd> i think it is certain cards
[03:41] <vilhelm> ok
[03:42] <mrksbrd> like i said once repo's & 8.04 are updated everything seems to work fine
[03:43] <mrksbrd> when i install the 2 things that never work are the video card & built in wifi card
[03:44] <Alex135> thats why i have an atherose card in my laptop
[03:44] <mrksbrd> luckily both are pretty simple fixes
[03:44] <ushimitsudoki> Hello. Trying out KDE for the first time (4.1). I have 3 monitors on 2 video cards. The 2 seem to be working alright, but the 3rd one is a seperate X screen and I can not get a panel or even the right-click menu to come up
[03:45] <mrksbrd> I have to use my sprint aircard to update, get ndiswrapper ....blah....blahh blah...u know the rest
[03:45] <ushimitsudoki> any docs or pointers on working with seperate X screens under KDE?
[03:46] <mrksbrd> !xscreen
[03:46] <mrksbrd> !x screen
[03:46] <tea-too> try kubuntu-kde4
[03:48] <mrksbrd> can't help ya on that one....never felt the need to run 3 monitors..lol
[03:48] <ushimitsudoki> in fact keyboard shortcuts (Alt+F2) and the like aren't working on the seperate X screen
[03:48] <ushimitsudoki> i can run apps because a terminal window comes up from my previous setup under gnome
[03:48] <ushimitsudoki> but right-click/keyboard shortcuts/panel and the like are not present on the seperate x screen?
[03:49] <tea-too> !kde4
[03:49] <mrksbrd> vilhelm any ideas on that one
[03:50] <Alex135> stupid bot
[03:52] <tea-too> !botsnack
[03:52] <tea-too> no bot
[03:53] <mrksbrd> guess we killed it
[03:54] <tea-too> yup
[03:54] <Alex135> yea, ubot is gone
[03:54] <mrksbrd> well going to bed guys
[03:55] <tea-too> where are our factoids????????????
[03:55] <tea-too> im out too
[03:58] <bdizzle> what's the differene between apt-get and aptitude?
[04:00] <Alex135> to me i find apt-get is a lot smarter with how it manages and keeps track of packages... i also noticed that a lot of the things  you install with aptitude dont show up on apt-get.... which can really screw things up
[04:00] <Alex135> other then that i really dont know
[04:00] <bdizzle> oh, someone said that apt-get was better
[04:00] <bdizzle> err, aptitude
[04:00] <bdizzle> hmm, okay
[04:00] <Alex135> welll
[04:01] <Alex135> it is said if you install KDE on ubuntu with it is that it is easier to remove it later
[04:01] <Alex135> if you need too
[04:01] <aaronwi> is there an easy to transfer all of my mozilla settings into linux
[04:02] <bdizzle> gotcha
[04:02] <aaronwi> settings, emails, folders, extenstions, etc
[04:02] <aaronwi> from windows xp
[04:02] <Alex135> bzdizzle: i read it here: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kde
[04:04] <aaronwi> alex: ?
[04:04] <Alex135> yes?
[04:04] <aaronwi> do you know how to transfer everything mozilla based in windows to kubuntu?
[04:05] <Alex135> well... no... but in theory if every thing is the same there should be a set of config files that all  the favorites are in that might be able to be transferd to the corosponding directory in linux
[04:05] <Alex135> but im just guessing
[04:05] <aaronwi> k
[04:05] <Alex135> i really havn't tried it
[04:06] <Alex135> but its something to think about
[04:06] <aaronwi> i still havent gotten it installed yet, lol, im just starting now, finally got my disks all defragmented, took a long time
[04:06] <Alex135> i am wanting to have the ext4 installed when it comes out fully suported... then i can get my disks defragmented a lot easier
[04:07] <aaronwi> i was defragging ntfs volums
[04:07] <Alex135> oh, then you got it easy
[04:07] <aaronwi> i ment installing kubuntu, lol
[04:07] <Alex135> ah
[04:07] <Alex135> k
[04:07] <Alex135> good thing i didn't stay up to help you then, hehe
[04:08] <aaronwi> ya
[04:08] <aaronwi> lol
[04:08] <Alex135> boy, would i have been pissed XD
[04:08] <aaronwi> ya, i decided to defrag so then i could make the 2nd partion smaller and thus have more space for kubuntu
[04:08] <aaronwi> now i got about 70gbs or so for it
[04:08] <lil_blue> how do I load new servers, other than Kubuntu?
[04:09] <Alex135> I would just buy a reasonable size HDD and install everything on it and set my home (torrenting directory in your case) on a sepereate hdd
[04:09] <Alex135> just have windows and linux on seperate hdd's
[04:10] <Giacomo> Hello :D
[04:11] <Giacomo> I need some help regarding installation of version 7.04. Anyone willing to help me out here?
[04:11] <lil_blue> how do I load new servers, other than #Kubuntu?
[04:11] <eddieftw> !ask | Giacomo
[04:11] <eddieftw> lil_blue: you mean new room on IRC?
[04:11] <Giacomo> Can you explain that function?
[04:12] <eddieftw> type '/j #roomname'
[04:12] <eddieftw> without the quotes
[04:12] <lil_blue> no. another server from a internet list
[04:12] <eddieftw> depends on your irc client
[04:12] <lil_blue> Konversation
[04:13] <eddieftw> file-> serverlist
[04:13] <lil_blue> "/list" gets me the stuff on this server...yes
[04:13] <Giacomo> What does !ask do? (o.O)
[04:13] <eddieftw> or file->quick connect.
[04:13] <eddieftw> usually it is something like irc.oftc.net or irc.freenode.net or irc.something.somethign
[04:14] <eddieftw> Giacomo: it tells you to ask your question, not ask about asking for help ;p
[04:14] <Giacomo> !ask
[04:14] <Daisuke_Laptop> it would if the bot were up at the moment
[04:14] <Daisuke_Laptop> apparently it's having some issues.
[04:15] <Giacomo> I'd rather have human help, anyways. :)
[04:16] <Giacomo> Anyways, are any of you willing to help me regarding Fiesty installation?
[04:16] <eddieftw> with what in particular
[04:17] <lil_blue> thanks 4 ur help...it worked
[04:17] <Daisuke_Laptop> Giacomo: wouldn't bother, it EOLs in two months
[04:18] <Daisuke_Laptop> would shoot for hardy, or at least gutsy
[04:18] <Giacomo> I'm using a PowerBook G3 (Bronze Keyboard) using a 400 MHz G3 processor, and 384 MBs of RAM. When I boot up, I get stuck at the command prompt.
[04:18] <Giacomo> Why is this?
[04:19] <Giacomo> Not the boot prompt. After the splash screen, it gives me the terminal bit.
[04:20] <eddieftw> and then what does it say
[04:20] <Giacomo> let me reboot and check.
[04:21] <Giacomo> give it a few minutes, please. It just begun at the splash screen.
[04:24] <kike> hello
[04:24] <Daisuke_Laptop> Busybox
[04:25] <Giacomo> There it is...
[04:26] <mortici> bleh i nuked my kde4..  note to self don't try to run LiquidWeather as a plasmid, it doesn't like the fact that PyQT3 isn't installed lolz....
[04:26] <Giacomo> It gives me the stuff about having no warranty, how to sudo, and then "ubuntu@ubuntu:~$"
[04:26] <Giacomo> KDE doesn't even try to load for even half a second.
[04:27] <kike> hello
[04:28] <kike> saludos
[04:28] <Giacomo> So I'm stuck at the command prompt.
[04:29] <kike> µ
[04:30] <Giacomo> It gives me the GUI with Kubuntu 6.06. But The installer won't work on that.
[04:30] <eddieftw> ah yes, try /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[04:30] <eddieftw> at Giacomo
[04:31] <Giacomo> is this a sudo command?
[04:31] <eddieftw> yes sorry
[04:31] <Giacomo> Ah.
[04:33] <Giacomo> I got a split-second glimpse of the X-shaped cursor, then a slightly longer glimpse. Then it returns to the command prompt.
[04:33] <Giacomo> Weird...
[04:33] <bdizzle> sweet, I think I've finally got everything up
[04:33] <Giacomo> Do I have too little memory?
[04:34] <eddieftw> uh no, it looks like X is msged
[04:34] <eddieftw> messeed up
[04:34] <Giacomo> msged? Define?
[04:34] <eddieftw> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:34] <eddieftw> messed up.
[04:35] <michael> anyone know how to install utorrent ?
[04:35] <draik> michael: sudo apt-get install utorrent        doesn't work?
[04:35] <eddieftw> or adept
[04:36] <mortici> anyone here use irssi?
[04:36] <Daisuke_Laptop> draik: no, because utorrent is a windows client.
[04:36] <Giacomo> It gives me a dialog box on a blue background. Asking: Attempt to autodetect video hardware?
[04:36] <michael> E: Couldn't find package utorrent
[04:37] <mixed1234> whoami
[04:37] <draik> Daisuke_Laptop: Oh. I thought it was U for Ubuntu
[04:37] <mixed1234> !whoami
[04:37] <Daisuke_Laptop> nope, it's actually mu or microtorrent, the u is just the closest ascii character
[04:37] <Daisuke_Laptop> mixed1234: bot's down
[04:38] <eddieftw> Giacomo: yes follow that dialogue
[04:38] <mixed1234> Daisuke, that explains it, im going to reconfigure my distro, i recently installed ubuntu studio 64 bit version :-)
[04:38] <eddieftw> you need to rebuild the files that control your user interfece
[04:38] <eddieftw> i cant give you the technical speicifications because i dont know what your computer looks like
[04:38] <mixed1234> Daisuke, what distribution would you recommend to play games??
[04:39] <Daisuke_Laptop> definitely something 32-bit.  anything that wine supports should be good enough, i would imagine
[04:39] <Daisuke_Laptop> k/ubuntu 8.04 is what i'm using, play plenty of games (though they're really old games - dosbox is a wonderful invention
[04:41] <mixed1234> Daisuke, thanks for all the input, I mainly play Quake III, I can install that one on my ubuntu box, im going to reconfigure my distro now, talk to you tomorrow
[04:45] <mortici> anyone use irssi that can answer a quick question?
[04:45] <eddieftw> yes
[04:49] <heru> assalamu'alaikum
[04:51] <YAOMTC> I'm trying to switch from GNOME to KDE, but I can't get the KDE desktop and panel to be used instead of GNOME.
[04:51] <YAOMTC> How is this done?
[04:51] <eddieftw> YAOMTC: you instealled kubuntu-desktop?
[04:51] <YAOMTC> Yep.
[04:51] <eddieftw> when you login there is an option 'session type'
[04:51] <eddieftw> one should be KDE, one should be GMOME, etc
[04:51] <YAOMTC> Oh, I'll go try that, thanks.
[04:51] <eddieftw> so logout and try
[04:52] <zzl> #ubuntu
[04:53] <Giacomo> How does the alternate install cd work, anyways?
[04:54] <eddieftw> Giacomo: it's an all text based installer
[04:55] <Giacomo> Ah.
[04:55] <naught101> My bottom panel isn't auto-hiding, even though it's set to hide after one second.
[04:55] <naught101> any ideas?
[04:56] <Giacomo> I'm no good at text-based installers. I can hardly understand Debian's process!
[04:58] <Daisuke_Laptop> Giacomo: you would have problems, it *is* debian's process.
[04:58] <Giacomo> Should I consider Edgy, Dapper, or Hoary for this computer? Dapper worked well, except that the installer crashed.
[04:59] <Daisuke_Laptop> dapper is the only one of those that's still supported
[04:59] <Giacomo> Well shucks!
[05:00] <Daisuke_Laptop> you could give the alternate cd a shot, it's fairly straightforward, but that's about the best i can offer there.
[05:02] <Giacomo> The cdimage server seems tgo be down. I can't download Dapper.
[05:03] <Memory_Moron> Where are you Giacomo
[05:04] <bdizzle> why is my computer claiming that I do not have sufficient access to write to /home/user/Desktop/Home.desktop?
[05:04] <Giacomo> I'm at: http://ubuntu.cs.utah.edu/releases/kubuntu/6.06/
[05:04] <aaronwi> so how do i set up multiple monitors so that the desktop extends across them both and not duplicate, i dont see an option in the system settings
[05:04] <Memory_Moron> Do you have a reason to use an old version? I would recommend a recent Kubuntu Hardy.. Try this http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/CDs/kubuntu/hardy/kubuntu-8.04.1-desktop-i386.iso
[05:05] <Memory_Moron> You pay taxes, Use their bandwidth :)
[05:06] <Giacomo> I'm using A PowerBook G3 400 MHz and 384 MB of RAM. I don't think it'll work.
[05:08] <Giacomo> Well I'll be darned, It needs 384+ MBs of RAM!
[05:08] <aaronwi> anyone?
[05:09] <Memory_Moron> Haha.. I didn't catch that. Try this- http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/CDs/kubuntu/
[05:09] <Memory_Moron> They go back to 6.06.1.
[05:09] <YAOMTC> eddieftw: That did it, thanks
[05:09] <YAOMTC> Now to configure things!
[05:11] <eddieftw> bdizzle: you need to chmod that file
[05:11] <eddieftw> it's user permissions
[05:13] <bdizzle> kk
[05:18] <zzl> anything cool to do on kubuntu?
[05:19] <eddieftw> zzl: install katapult, and yakuake
[05:19] <zzl> what are they?
[05:19] <zzl> games?
[05:21] <ere4si> !katapult
[05:21] <zzl> !katapuly
[05:21] <ere4si> !lag
[05:21] <bdizzle> the bot went home for the night
[05:21] <eddieftw> the bot took a break
[05:22] <bdizzle> he's currently with his fem-bot
[05:22] <ere4si> hehe
[05:22] <ere4si> !bot
[05:24] <zzl> how to install adobe flash player?
[05:24] <bdizzle> medibuntu
[05:24] <corigo> command line to install SMB and NFS packages? (The only problem I have with Adept is it is component by component when I want to install packages)
[05:25] <bdizzle> adept isn't always component by component, it usually figures it out
[05:25] <bdizzle> and what are SMB and NFS?
[05:25] <corigo> zzl: Here is 64bit instructions: http://www.linux.com/feature/142075
[05:25] <zzl> any 32bit instructions?
[05:26] <corigo> bdizzle samba and Network File system (one or the other is required for sharing folders over a network)
[05:26] <bdizzle> ah, okay
[05:29] <zzl> how do you update kubuntu system?
[05:29] <zzl> there's no button like in ubuntu
[05:30] <zzl>  how do you update kubuntu system?
[05:31] <eddieftw> zzl: sudo apt-get update
[05:31] <eddieftw> or wait until adept pops up
[05:31] <eddieftw> and tells you there are updates
[05:31] <zzl> sorry for asking SO many questions. I am new
[05:32] <eddieftw> zzl: that is why we are here
[05:32] <eddieftw> i was asking a bunch of questions in this chan. at one point myself, and now i help answer them and work with linux everyday as a job ;p
[05:32] <corigo> Are there SMB and NFS packages?
[05:32] <zzl> I also can't get adobe flash player to work
[05:33] <eddieftw> zzl: pm me, and i will walk you through the adobe flash player install
[05:33] <zzl> thank you eddie very much
[05:33] <ernesto_> hi
[05:36] <zzl> anyone know how to operate clonezilla? I heard it was powerful
[05:38] <draik> What is an alternative to xsane?
[05:38] <draik> I want to scan an image and xsane doesn't seem to be responding.
[05:40] <zzl>  anyone know how to operate clonezilla? I heard it was powerful
[05:40] <bdizzle> why does firefox claim that it is running when it is in fact, not
[05:41] <draik> bdizzle: I have the same issue. Give it about 3-5 minutes. It will load
[05:42] <bdizzle> 3-5 minutes on Firefox? That is unacceptable. I'd expect that from Internet Explorer
[05:42] <bdizzle> FIrefox is always quick
[05:43] <concernedcitizen> :( if only we can get a qt port of FF
[05:43] <zzl> FF?
[05:43] <concernedcitizen> firefox
[05:44] <bdizzle> qt != quicktime, right?
[05:44] <eddieftw> correct bdizzle
[05:44] <bdizzle> !qt
[05:44] <bdizzle> meh, bot's on vacation, I forogt
[05:44] <bdizzle> *forgot
[05:44] <aaronwi> how do i get multiple monitors to display in kubuntu with a nvidia geforce 8800gts ?
[05:46] <aaronwi> anyone?
[05:46] <zzl> how to get sound working in kubuntu?
[05:52] <bdizzle> okay, issue
[05:52] <bdizzle> just booted up, and went through command line and tried to start firefox
[05:52] <bdizzle> it claims its already started
[05:52] <eddieftw> bdizzle: dont do that
[05:52] <eddieftw> in the command line type 'ps -aux'
[05:52] <bdizzle> when I did ps -A, firefox wasn't listed, but konqueror was listed two or three times
[05:52] <eddieftw> or ps -aux | grep firefor
[05:53] <eddieftw> killall firefox-bin
[05:53] <eddieftw> etc.
[05:53] <draik> Anyone know of a good alternative to xsane and kooka? I can't scan a thing
[05:54] <bdizzle> yeah, nothing shown on there eddieftw
[05:54] <zzl> http://www.qianlong.com.cn/soft/. I want to install that but the chinese language doesn't show up properly
[05:54] <zzl> anyone know how to fix that?
[05:57] <zzl> http://www.qianlong.com.cn/soft/. I want to install that but the chinese language doesn't show up properly
[05:59] <zzl> how do i check whether my hardware is eth0 or ath0??
[05:59] <mu3en> zzl: ifconfig?
[06:00] <bdizzle> I never quite understood, what is purging vs. removal?
[06:00] <zzl> it shows ath0 and eth0
[06:00] <mu3en> bdizzle: purge removes related settings
[06:01] <ere4si> aaronwi: and config files etc
[06:01] <bdizzle> ah, ok
[06:01] <mu3en> zzl: you should see mac address info which should tell you what each card is
[06:01] <mu3en> zzl: sounds like maybe eth0 is your ethernet card and ath0 your wireless?
[06:02] <zzl> i don't really know. just got kubuntu 2 days ago
[06:02] <zzl> haha
[06:02] <mu3en> zzl: okay
[06:02] <mu3en> zzl: if you just set up, i feel that would be the default, what are you trying to figure out?
[06:03] <aaronwi> how do i adjust desktop icon spacing?
[06:03] <zzl> what my card is
[06:07] <mu3en> zzl: theoretically, the application knetworkmanager and the system settings should give you fairly good idea about that
[06:16] <junoon> how to setup wifi in kubuntu
[06:25] <mu3en> junoon, so many good docs about this and it depends on your hardware so much.
[06:25] <mu3en> anyone out there have any info. on the evtouch driver in hardy? having some issues getting it to load.
[06:30] <mu3en> i have some feeling it may have to do with an X version issue
[06:33] <aaronwi> so i found the nivida generic x64 driver...im trying to install it and it says im running an x server....and that i should close it....whats an x server and how do i close it?
[06:35] <flaccid> aaronwi: its the graphical display. logout to kdm (the login screen) then goto a tty with ctrl+alt+f2 and login. then do sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop and then you can run the installer
[06:35] <aaronwi> k
[06:37] <Fieldy> !sound
[06:40] <bdizzle> hi
[06:40] <bdizzle> how do use chmod on the .kde file in the home directory?
[06:40] <bdizzle> to change it to writeable. I think that seems to be causing some error boxes to pop up
[06:40] <aaronwi> flaccid: so after I do that do I go back into kde or what happens
[06:41] <mu3en> sudo chmod 775 username (maybe -R for recursive if you want) bdizzle
[06:41] <flaccid> bdizzle: like any other chmod
[06:41] <flaccid> !permissions | bdizzle
[06:41] <aaronwi> flaccid: ok so now im at a black screen with a blinking cursor...but nothing is working
[06:41] <flaccid> aaronwi: once you have installed it you can start kdm again with sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start
[06:41] <aaronwi> how do i install it
[06:41] <aaronwi> i dont know the exact name of the file to execute
[06:41] <flaccid> aaronwi: yeah you have to go back to ctrl+alt+f2 again
[06:41] <aaronwi> ok
[06:42] <bdizzle> and to check permissions?
[06:42] <flaccid> aaronwi: you would need to know where you dowloaded it to run it
[06:42] <aaronwi> i know where its downloaded
[06:42] <flaccid> bdizzle: ls -l (konqueror can do all this as well)
[06:42] <flaccid> aaronwi: cd to that do and then run it
[06:42] <aaronwi> i just dont know the name...its got a version number...but now i see...after hitting C+A+f2 again, i can do ls etc
[06:43] <bdizzle> hmm
[06:43] <flaccid> aaronwi: you can use tab complete and ls to list the dir contents
[06:43] <bdizzle> .kde is only showing drwx-------, while .kde4 is set as drwxr -xr -x
[06:43] <flaccid> bdizzle: thats fine
[06:44] <flaccid> it means only you can read write and execute it
[06:44] <bdizzle> then why is it saying that it cannot write to the .kde/share folder or so?
[06:44] <flaccid> check the permissions on ~/.kdes/share not ~/.kde .. and what is 'it' ?
[06:45] <aaronwi> flaccid: ok...well aparentally it said it doesnt have a compiled version for my kernel or something...so then it said it will compile one...but now it says i dont ahve the libc heade4r files installed...so now what
[06:46] <bdizzle> share is only showing drwx
[06:46] <bdizzle> env is at drwxr -xr -x
[06:46] <bdizzle> every time I boot up, it gives me an error message. Same for using kaffeine and such
[06:46] <aaronwi> do i do sudo apt-get install libcsomething?
[06:47] <k4r1m> whats the best movie player for the kde de? im looking for something that would play avi files and mkv files..
[06:48] <aaronwi> i tried libc6
[06:48] <flaccid> aaronwi: install the package linux-headers i think
[06:48] <aaronwi> but got the same error as before e: subprocess /usr/bin/dpkg returned an  error code (1)
[06:48] <aaronwi> k
[06:48] <bdizzle> okay, example
[06:48] <dwidmann_> k4r1m: best is quite subjective. Kplayer is good, kmplayer is good, kaffeine is good, dragon(renamed from codeine) is super lightweight but not bad
[06:48] <aaronwi> flaccid: that one said "you should explicitly select one to instal." "E: package linux-headers has no installation candidate"
[06:48] <aaronwi> now what?
[06:49] <k4r1m> whats the difference between kplayer and kmplayer
[06:49] <bdizzle> when I open a movie in kaffeine, it says:  Will not save configuration.  Configuration file "/home/user/.kde/share/config/kaffeinerc" not writable. Please contact your system administrator
[06:49] <bdizzle> flaccid: ?
[06:49] <flaccid> aaronwi: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[06:50] <flaccid> bdizzle: ls -l /home/user/.kde/share/config/kaffeinerc please
[06:51] <aaronwi> uname?
[06:51] <bdizzle> -rwxr -xr -x
[06:51] <flaccid> aaronwi: yep
[06:51] <aaronwi> with the quotes
[06:51] <flaccid> aaronwi: the backticks yes
[06:51] <flaccid> bdizzle: what is the whole line it returns?
[06:51] <aaronwi> it gives me a list too...and i see linux-headers-amd64-generic, i am using 64 bit...or what u said ...will the auto find the right one or soemthing?
[06:52] <flaccid> aaronwi: a list too?
[06:52] <aaronwi> ya...other similar ones...but i tried ur way
[06:52] <aaronwi> it says ..."E: sub process /urr/bin/dpkg returned an error code 1
[06:52] <bdizzle> - rwxr -xr -x 1 root root 2079 2008-08-11 01:42 kaffeinerc
[06:53] <aaronwi> anything i run with apt-get i get that message
[06:53] <flaccid> bdizzle: its owned by root, not you this is why. this could of occured by running it under sudo something
[06:53] <bdizzle> ah, okay
[06:53] <flaccid> aaronwi: pastebin the whole output please
[06:53] <aaronwi> im just about to go back to windows....too much work for this simple shit
[06:53] <bdizzle> so how do I change it back to my user name?
[06:53] <aaronwi> how can i paste the whole output?
[06:53] <bdizzle> pastebin
[06:53] <aaronwi> im in console
[06:54] <flaccid> aaronwi: any reason you don't just use the hardware drivers manager?
[06:54] <aaronwi> this is another computer
[06:54] <bdizzle> oh
[06:54] <flaccid> aaronwi: what else does it say then ?
[06:54] <aaronwi> i tried that...it zoomed the screen in and messed up the screens refresh rate
[06:54] <bdizzle> flaccid, how do I change the permissions from root to "user" ?
[06:54] <dwidmann_> bdizzle: sudo chown $USER:$USER $HOME/.kde/share/config/kaffeinerc
[06:55] <flaccid> cool
[06:55] <bdizzle> okay
[06:55] <bdizzle> and do the same for the rest of the files in there that are owned by root?
[06:55] <flaccid> yeah totally
[06:55] <dwidmann_> bdizzle: well, if you want to be comprehensive sudo chown -r $USER:$USER $HOME
[06:56] <bdizzle> ok
[06:56] <k4r1m> where is the "manage users" section in kubuntu?
[06:57] <flaccid> k4r1m: system settings
[06:57] <flaccid> 'User Management'
[06:57] <k4r1m> where is the system settings at?
[06:57] <bdizzle> didn't change it
[06:57] <bdizzle> I did ls -l again and its still says root
[06:57] <aaronwi> linux headers 2.6.24 19 generic already the newest version
[06:57] <aaronwi> linux headers same        set to manually installed
[06:57] <aaronwi> the following packages will be removed
[06:57] <aaronwi> nvidia glx new
[06:57] <aaronwi> bla bla 1 to remove
[06:57] <aaronwi> 1 not fully installed or removed
[06:57] <aaronwi> afeter this operation 28.3mb disk space will be freed
[06:57] <aaronwi> continue y
[06:57] <aaronwi> reading database bla bla bla
[06:57] <aaronwi> removing nvidia glx new
[06:57] <dwidmann_> bdizzle: try it with "sudo chown -R $USER:$USER $HOME/.kde then
[06:57] <dwidmann_> "
[06:58] <aaronwi> dpkg divert: error checking '/usr/lib32/libGL.so.1': no such file or dir
[06:58] <aaronwi> dpkg: error processing nvidia glx new (--remove):
[06:58] <aaronwi> subprocess post removal script returned error exit status 2
[06:58] <k4r1m> im at system settings and i dont see user mangment
[06:58] <aaronwi> errors were encournted while processing
[06:58] <aaronwi> nvidia glx new
[06:58] <aaronwi> E: subprocess /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code 1
[06:58] <aaronwi> theres my 'paste bin' :P
[07:01] <flaccid> aaronwi: you can only paste 3 lines here. pastebin for more than 3
[07:01] <aaronwi> ok
[07:01] <aaronwi> you still got all that tho yes?
[07:01] <flaccid> kind of yeah
[07:02] <flaccid> aaronwi: if you want nvidia just do sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new
[07:02] <aaronwi> it does that for anything i do with apt get
[07:02] <bdizzle> got it. thanks again flaccid, you rock
[07:02] <flaccid> np
[07:03] <aaronwi> ok...that one worked
[07:03] <aaronwi> now do i need to install the x64 bit drivers i downloaded?
[07:03] <flaccid> that is the driver
[07:03] <aaronwi> but will it let me do 3d stuff?
[07:03] <flaccid> yep
[07:04] <aaronwi> k
[07:04] <flaccid> startx
[07:04] <dwidmann_> aaronwi: you'll need to "sudo nvidia-xconfig" and then restart X
[07:04] <flaccid> or sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start
[07:04] <aaronwi> so why do i keep getting  E: subprocess /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code 1 all the time?
[07:04] <k4r1m> so anybody wants to help or what? i cant find this "user managment" nor "adminstration"
[07:04] <dwidmann_> ... That spells trouble.
[07:04] <flaccid> if i could see a full pastebin of a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade that would be easier to see exacty
[07:05] <flaccid> k4r1m: which version of kubuntu?
[07:05] <k4r1m> latest
[07:05] <aaronwi> dwidmann: i did that and got validation error data incomplete in file /etc/x11/xorg.conf device secvinot "configured video device" must have a driver line
[07:05] <aaronwi> sh: pkg-config: not found
[07:05] <aaronwi> backed up file /ect/x11/xorg.conf .....
[07:05] <flaccid> it should be there in system settings from kmenu
[07:05] <flaccid> but if not you could install kuser
[07:05] <k4r1m> i guess i will do that
[07:06] <k4r1m> cuz i wanna unlock root
[07:06] <flaccid> aaronwi: put Driver "nvidia" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf Device section
[07:06] <flaccid> to unlock root just do sudo passwd root
[07:06] <aaronwi> whats a editor i can launch from the console then
[07:06] <aaronwi> not vi...i hate vi
[07:06] <flaccid> but there is no need as you can use sudo -i for root shell
[07:07] <flaccid> aaronwi: pico
[07:07] <emilsedgh> aaronwi: nano
[07:07] <aaronwi> k
[07:07] <flaccid> i gtg
[07:07] <k4r1m> "Cannot open file /etc/passwd.bak for writing"
[07:07] <k4r1m> "Can't create backup file for /etc/passwd"
[07:08] <k4r1m> "Can't create backup file for /etc/passwd"
[07:08] <zzl> ok
[07:08] <bdizzle> is ndiswrapper just for network files, or can it be used for other hardware devices, like graphics cards?
[07:08] <aaronwi> flaccid: tried opening that file and nothing exists in it
[07:08] <zzl> i have two partitions, one for windows and one for kubuntu
[07:08] <aaronwi> flaccid: o you know what...i think im in the wrong dir
[07:08] <zzl> i no longer want the kubuntu partition
[07:08] <bdizzle> okay
[07:08] <aaronwi> flaccid: nope...still empty
[07:08] <zzl> can i just go to partition manager and delete the kubuntu partition?
[07:08] <bdizzle> so go into windows, and I forget what the program is, but there is
[07:09] <bdizzle> yeah, then reformat it as an ntfs and keep the space
[07:09] <zzl> and just delete the kubuntu partition?
[07:09] <zzl> oh ok
[07:09] <zzl> thanks
[07:09] <bdizzle> oh, wait, no
[07:09] <bdizzle> stop
[07:09] <aaronwi> flaccid: i have no x11 directory
[07:09] <bdizzle> then you kill  grub and you'd have to fix the MBR first
[07:09] <bdizzle> because I remember doing that once
[07:09] <zzl> please help me with that
[07:09] <zzl> so i delete the kubuntu partition
[07:09] <aaronwi> flaccid: omg, nm, cant believe its case sensitive, its a capital x
[07:09] <bdizzle> I don't remember what I did. I think it involved downloading free DOS ad doing it
[07:10] <zzl> fixmbr?
[07:10] <bdizzle> yeah
[07:10] <aaronwi> looks like its already there
[07:11] <aaronwi> can i somehow enable the second monitor as an extended desktop in xorg.conf ?
[07:12] <k4r1m> why do i just always regret moving to linux...well thanks for nothing guys..back to vista-sucks!
[07:12] <zzl> no no
[07:13] <zzl> the brightness doesn't adjust on my laptop
[07:13] <zzl> so i get an eyesore looking at it
[07:13] <zzl> dont get me wrong, i love kubuntu
[07:15] <bdizzle> *sigh* why do people give up on linux so easily?
[07:15] <aaronwi> ok so i started kdm again...but its still sitting on the console
[07:15] <bdizzle> zzl, you should be able to adjust it normally. Mine worked right out of the box. For me, it was just Fn + Left Arrow or Right Arrow
[07:16] <bdizzle> aaronwi: did you use the alternate cd, or the regular cd?
[07:16] <aaronwi> regular x64
[07:16] <bdizzle> hmm
[07:16] <bdizzle> are you using a wired or wireless connection?
[07:17] <aaronwi> me?
[07:17] <bdizzle> yeah
[07:17] <aaronwi> wired
[07:17] <bdizzle> flaccid: how do I install a .bin file?
[07:17] <bdizzle> okay, and I'll assume you have no GUI, its just CLI?
[07:17] <aaronwi> ya
[07:18] <genii> flaccid: Keeping busy I see
[07:18] <bdizzle> and I'll assume you're on IRC from a different computer?
[07:18] <aaronwi> yup
[07:18] <aaronwi> im just rebooting it now
[07:18] <bdizzle> okay, I'm not entirely sure how to do this, but I think you need to use iwconfig to connect via your wired connection, then sudo apt-get kde or gnome
[07:19] <bdizzle> unless you went into the recovery mode, that would cause you to load into the command line
[07:19] <bdizzle> btw, to reboot from command line, its just sudo reboot
[07:19] <aaronwi> i know i have kde
[07:19] <aaronwi> its kubuntu
[07:20] <bdizzle> hmm
[07:20] <bdizzle> but its not loading?
[07:20] <aaronwi> nope...the reboot went back into the console
[07:20] <bdizzle> strange
[07:20] <bdizzle> ok, cd into /home/username/
[07:20] <bdizzle> then ls -A
[07:20] <bdizzle> is there a .kde file in there?
[07:21] <aaronwi> yes
[07:23] <bdizzle> try this:
[07:23] <bdizzle> http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-desktop-x-windows/48875-how-load-kde.html
[07:23] <bdizzle> post #5
[07:23] <bdizzle> wait, try typing in startkde
[07:25] <aaronwi> xsetroot: unable to open display ' '
[07:25] <aaronwi> inittab doesnt exist
[07:26] <bdizzle> ouch
[07:26] <aaronwi> fuckit...for how quick the install is...ill just redo it
[07:26] <bdizzle> haha, okay
[07:26] <bdizzle> I've had to come to that conclusion a few times lately this past week
[07:27] <bdizzle> did you try entering in "startkde" (without the quotes)
[07:27] <aaronwi> suppose i actually had stuff in /home....is that going to get overwritten if i reinstall?
[07:27] <aaronwi> its not its own partition
[07:27] <ere4si> make a separate /home partition to make reinstalls easier
[07:27] <aaronwi> how big should / be then?
[07:28] <ere4si> 5 or 6gb is ok for me
[07:28] <Giacomo> Does RAM type matter when installing Hardy Heron on a PowerBook G3?
[07:28] <bdizzle> don't know Giacomo
[07:29] <aaronwi> does it make a difference wether i install ubuntu then kde or kubuntu?
[07:29] <Giacomo> I have a 256 MB Stick of RAM from Sonnet and a 128 MB Stick from Apple.
[07:29] <bdizzle> yeah, it will aaronwi, unless you put the home on a seperate partition
[07:29] <Giacomo> Totaling 384 MB.
[07:29] <bdizzle> anyone know how to properly install a .bin file?
[07:29] <Giacomo> However, Fiesty still fails to load kdm.
[07:30] <ere4si> I didn't think hardy supported the non-intel macs
[07:30] <Giacomo> I had a copy of Hardy installed on my PowerBook G4.
[07:31] <Giacomo> I regret ever replacing it with Xubuntu.
[07:32] <bdizzle> heh
[07:32] <Giacomo> Kubuntu actually fit my internet needs :)
[07:32] <bdizzle> same here
[07:33] <bdizzle> okay, need some help
[07:33] <bdizzle> I got the .bin file opened, now how do I install the uncompressed folder?
[07:33] <bdizzle> I'm trying to install Sun Java 6 JRE
[07:33] <Tm_K> !java
[07:33] <bdizzle> the bot is back?
[07:33] <bdizzle> cool
[07:34] <Tm_K> !jre
[07:34] <Giacomo> :D
[07:34] <Tm_K> was
[07:35] <bdizzle> hmm
[07:35] <bdizzle> I don't get it, its installed, yet when I load firefox, this damn university program claims I don't have java installed
[07:37] <ere4si> bdizzle: did you close ff after the install?
[07:40] <bdizzle> yeah
[07:40] <bdizzle> the program they require is retarded
[07:40] <bdizzle> I've got it running via wireless, but I'd prefer the wired connection for the my desktop
[07:43] <bdizzle> how long does alien usually take to convert a .rpm to a .deb file?
[07:46] <_atpl> ..
[07:48] <bdizzle> okay, why is it not letting me delete things out of the trash can?
[07:48] <bdizzle> it says access denied, etc etc
[07:53] <bdizzle> okay, anyone on tonight?
[07:53] <bdizzle> flaccid ? you there?
[07:57] <bdizzle> okay, potential problem I noticed
[07:57] <bdizzle> after installing the mozilla plugin for java via apt-get, and it claims that its installed, I did about:plugins in firefox and java isn't listed
[08:13] <aaronwi>  can i install a rpm in ubuntu?
[08:13] <aaronwi> and how do i
[08:14] <ere4si> !alien
[08:25] <aaronwi> how do i get flash working in firefox with x64 kubuntu?
[08:27] <ere4si> !flash64
[08:28] <ere4si> aaronwi: ^^
[08:32] <jeisma> how do i free up memory being used in the buffers/cache?
[08:33] <jeisma> i used to only use up about 800mb of ram outof 1.5gb now after installing some webcam programs, i now use up 1.4gb of memory
[08:33] <jeisma> how do i clear up som ememory?
[08:37] <quitte> hi. does koffice support rotating pictures?
[08:37] <quitte> err kword
[08:48] <zoumaz> bonjour!!!
[08:53] <mu3en_> !french | zoumaz
[08:59] <lenea> hey all. anyone know how to enable standby option in kubuntu hardy?
[09:00] <quitte> standby? as in switch off hdd and monitor?
[09:00] <lenea> yes
[09:00] <amerigo> !nvidia
[09:00] <quitte> it's in the menu
[09:00] <lenea> where?
[09:00] <quitte> power or enrgysettings
[09:01] <lenea> i kinda have searched everyone and have found nothing. if you could guide me where to could that would really be of help
[09:02] <quitte> oh i'm in #kubuntu :P. well i'm sure it's still in the menu. probably in kcontrolcenter
[09:02] <quitte> run kcontrol (alt+f2)
[09:02] <lenea> no such thing in kubuntu hardy ^_^
[09:03] <quitte> ok. sorry. i'd better leave this channel before giving any more useless advice
[09:04] <lenea> i'll ask once more : does anyone know how to make the computer standby in kubuntu hardy?
[09:06] <mu3en_> lenea, if everything is okay, just select logout from the kmenu and press suspend
[09:14] <lenea> mu3en_ : not all works well. as i don't have suspend optiond
[09:15] <mu3en_> okay, may be hardware related, but depends on your install process etc. etc. suggest you research the forums for more details
[09:15] <Daisuke_Laptop> lenea: did you start with an ubuntu install and install kde on top?
[09:16] <lenea> no, i installed kubuntu right from the beginning
[09:16] <Daisuke_Laptop> there goes that idea
[09:16] <Daisuke_Laptop> nevermind :\
[09:16] <lenea> on the forums i find complains about people that don't know how to standby in kubuntu hardy, but no answers
[10:00] <johna_> jo__ are u in Austrailia?
[10:03] <johna_> Uptime: 8 hours and 19 minutes
[10:30] <ubuntu> hi, cannot install italian language in kubuntu, anyone can help me?
[10:32] <mu3en_> ubuntu, what is the problem?
[10:33] <emilsedgh> !it | ubuntu
[10:34] <ubuntu> ok, grazie
[11:01] <SlimG> I appended vga=775 (1280x1024 8-bit) to the kernel bootparameter, and somehow that also causes KDE4 to use 8-bit colors, Am I right in thinking this should not happen?
[11:04] <mu3en_> a priori i would say yes, slimg, i remember doing this on a notebook some time back to improve boot sequence console view
[11:05] <mu3en_> no effect on X
[11:15] <Guest71110> what's the use of swap drive?
[11:34] <jussi01> Guest58358: swap is like extra ram - except its on the HDD
[11:34] <jussi01> !swap
[11:48] <wrt_> Привет ))))
[11:54] <jkyro> hi
[11:55] <jkyro> Is the KDE_NO_IPV6 trick still used with KDE4?
[11:55] <jkyro> I'm seeing some long timeouts that freeze the whole system, I suspect that might help
[11:55] <jkyro> s/system/desktop
[12:01] <Fieldy> !nvidia
[12:03] <theory_> CAn anyone help me?
[12:04] <jkyro> depends
[12:04] <jkyro> just ask, you'll find out :)
[12:06] <apostrophy> Hello, can anyone help me with my problem?
[12:07] <Suicidal_Failure> put some cream on it, it'll heal up just fine
[12:39] <thefish> Suicidal_Failure: :D
[12:45] <Fieldy> !rsync
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> howdy all...quiet today
[12:54] <Dr_willis> ZZZzzz...
[12:54] <Dr_willis> :)
[13:02]  * ActionParsnip listens to the wind blow
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> maybe kubuntu works better than Ubuntu, seems no one is having an issue
[13:04] <koke_kola> Here's an easy one for you guys, (not so obvious to me), how do i get a list of channels in konversation?
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> koke_kola: at the top you'll see server -> channel list
[13:05] <filo1234> hello how can i know if some program is in universe or mulriverse or backports and so on.....repository?
[13:06] <koke_kola> ActionParsnip: ah. great thnx
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> np bro, help where you can
[13:08] <dcorbin_work> kbuntu appears to be adding /sbin to my user path. a) why? and be where?
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> dcorbin_work: its in /sbin
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> dcorbin_work: looks like its a whole bunch of system binarys ;)
[13:16] <dcorbin_work> ActionParsnip: no, the "where" was "where is being added to my path"
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> dcorbin_work: so you can run those binarys without having to type their paths
[13:19] <dcorbin_work> Yeah. Usually those are for root users.
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> you can just type ifconfig instead of /sbin/ifconfig
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> but using kdesu / sudo you can run them
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> as long as you are a member of the sudo group
[13:37] <l3x> hello guys
[13:38] <jkyro> filo1234: apt-cache policy <package>
[13:39] <l3x> i was wondering, what is the best easy-to-use firewall for kubuntu linux? (a good firewall for kde that works good in kubuntu) :) i do not know the kudos for firewall setup, and i want a firewall that is easy to set up
[13:44] <jussi01> l3x guarddog :)
[13:44] <jussi01> !firewall
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> firestarter is awesome
[13:51] <DarkTan> ok, i need help installing a pcmcia Wireless NIC. The lap top i'm useing has no ethernet connection or any internet connection for that matter
[13:51] <DarkTan> the card is a Netgear MA521 802.11b
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> DarkTan: gimme a sec, web searching
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> DarkTan: what do you get from lsusb and lspci
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> does it say anything about you device
[13:57] <DarkTan> lsusb found my flash drive
[13:57] <DarkTan> lspci hasn't given me an answer yet
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> ok, one line will say what your wireless is
[13:59] <DarkTan> Realtek Simiconductor Co., Ltd, RTL8190l 802.11b MAC (rev 20)
[13:59] <zorglu_> q. i got a ubuntu-server installation in french language, and i would like to switch it to english, where should i look ?
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> DarkTan: sweet
[13:59] <DarkTan> easy one?
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> let me see
[14:00] <DarkTan> zorglu: do you have "Region and Language" under system settings?
[14:01] <laptop> HI
[14:01] <laptop> how unistal kubunt?
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> DarkTan: if you run ifconfig do you see wlan0 or ath0
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> laptop: and revert back to ubuntu?
[14:03] <zorglu_> DarkTan: not really, i am in a virtual machine of a ubuntu-server :) so no UI
[14:03] <zorglu_> !tab
[14:03] <zorglu_> it still exists :)
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> zorglu_: all commands in cli are the same in any language
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> the errors aren't though
[14:04] <zorglu_> ActionParsnip: yep, how do i change the languqge
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> zorglu_: ask in #ubuntu,_wols should be there, he's a smart cookie
[14:05] <zorglu_> ActionParsnip: ok thanks
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> zorglu_: i know what you mean i just dont know how to change it
[14:06] <zorglu_> ActionParsnip: i got it :) no problem
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> DarkTan: you got anything from ifconfig bro???/
[14:09] <DarkTan> sorry, had to leave for a sec
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> np
[14:10] <DarkTan> iconfig says command not found
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> ifconfig
[14:10] <faileas> er
[14:10] <faileas> its sudo ifconfig
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> users can run ifconfig dude
[14:11] <faileas> erf
[14:11] <faileas> seems so ;p
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> its only looking ;)
[14:11] <faileas> ;p
[14:11] <DarkTan> iconfig: command not found
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> ifconfig
[14:11] <DarkTan> if, opps
[14:11]  * DarkTan cannot read today
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> eye eff see oh enn eff eye gee
[14:12] <DarkTan> lol
[14:12] <DarkTan> i got a Local Loopback running
[14:12] <abby87> DarkTan: /sbin/ifconfig
[14:13] <DarkTan> shows me the same thing
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> faileas: whats that lshw thing man, shows network things
[14:13] <DarkTan> hold on, i'll type it in pastebin
[14:14] <faileas> lspci, lsusb (or if you install it) lshw
[14:14] <faileas> well i thin
[14:14] <faileas> k
[14:14] <DarkTan> http://pastebin.com/d7be37dad
[14:15] <DarkTan> then some packet infor after that
[14:15] <faileas> this system has been set up the way i like it for quite a while ;p
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> DarkTan: try sudo mv /etc/network/interfaces /etc/network/oldinterfaces and then reboot
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> DarkTan: use tab to autocomplete
[14:18] <DarkTan> cannot move, no such file or directory
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> use tab to complete it dude
[14:19] <DarkTan> what do you mean?
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> /etc/netw(press tab)/inter(press tab)
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> in linux you dont have to type full names, you press tab and it guesses the rest
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> just like nicks in irc
[14:20] <DarkTan> oh, well i already typed the whole thing out
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> well if its right it'll work
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> if you se tab it'll definately be right
[14:21] <Dr_willis> !tab
[14:21] <Dr_willis> technically its  the 'bash' autocompletion feature. :) and ubuntu has it set up where it works for much more hten just filenames/paths
[14:21] <DarkTan> same error
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> ok do it this way
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> type su
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> then your pass
[14:23] <Dr_willis> you mean 'sudo -s' ?
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> then cd to /etc/network/
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> Dr_willis: same bag
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> does the same trick
[14:23] <Dr_willis> i dont think su works under ubuntu. unless he has the root user password set.
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> ah
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> ok
[14:23] <Dr_willis> :P
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> sudo -s
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> Dr_willis: only time i do that is in mandriva which has root
[14:23] <DarkTan> i already used sudo-i to get to root
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> DarkTan: cool, thats what we needed
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> then cd /etc/network
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> then mv ./interfaces ./oldinterfaces
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> then close that konsole and reboot
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> a new one will be made when it comes back up and will hopefully include your wifi
[14:26] <DarkTan> mx: cannot stat 'i/interfaces': No such file or directory
[14:27] <DarkTan> mx: cannot stat './interfaces': No such file or directory *
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> huh
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> no
[14:27] <DarkTan> mv
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> mv ./interfaces ./oldinterfaces
[14:27] <DarkTan> can't type
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> type pwd, whats the output?
[14:28] <DarkTan> it says /etc/network
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> ok
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> type ls
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> do you see a file called interfaces
[14:29] <DarkTan> nope
[14:29] <DarkTan> i got one taht says "oldinterfaces
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> ahh cool
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> reboot
[14:29] <DarkTan> ok
[14:30] <DarkTan> this will take a while
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> ok, when its done it will make a new file for you with hopefully good settings
[14:30] <DarkTan> ok, where do i find it?
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> it does it automatically
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> just run your network config tool and see if the adapter is ok?
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> make sure its turned on and stuff
[14:32] <DarkTan> ok, i check that when i boots up
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> what spec is it?
[14:35] <DarkTan> waiting to log on
[14:36] <DarkTan> it's a 400mhz K5 with 100mb of ram and a 60 gig HDD, it takes a while
[14:36] <vilhelm> :)
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> not bad
[14:36] <faileas> lol
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> id try find some ram and it'll be fine
[14:36]  * faileas used to have a pIII 350 as a server once
[14:36] <faileas> main hard drive was 30 megs
[14:36] <DarkTan> hmm, i just got an error that says "The process for the file protocol died unexpectedly"
[14:37]  * ActionParsnip had a dual p3 box once, scary stuff
[14:37]  * DarkTan has a box that could run dual p3s if he ahd a voltage regulator
[14:38] <DarkTan> another error "The process for the media protocol died unexpectedly"
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> faileas: ??
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> any ideas faileas
[14:39] <faileas> er
[14:39] <faileas> not off the top of my head
[14:40]  * faileas is being distracted by a small dog
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> http://forums.remote-exploit.org/showthread.php?t=11906
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> seems like a low memory related error
[14:41] <DarkTan> yeah
[14:41] <DarkTan> w00t! system protocol died
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> ok do you have a desktop?
[14:41] <DarkTan> yeah
[14:42] <DarkTan> pulling up kosole now
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> ok try ward off those errors and bring up your wireless tool (should be knetworkmanager)
[14:42] <DarkTan> ok, loading it now
[14:43] <concernedcitizen> how can I keep konsole from timing out from inactivity when sshin' to a remote server?
[14:43] <DarkTan> ...
[14:43] <DarkTan> it's not opening
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> DarkTan: itll take a while, you got a low end pc bro
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> concernedcitizen: id check ssh timeout limits
[14:44] <concernedcitizen> how do I do that?
[14:44] <DarkTan> i don't even have a busy cursor on the mouse or the hour glass on the task bar
[14:44] <thefish> concernedcitizen: ServerAliveInterval
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> concernedcitizen: http://dan.hersam.com/2007/03/05/how-to-avoid-ssh-timeouts/
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> DarkTan: try tab completing it ;)
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> knetw(tab)
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> you dont type (tab) press the key
[14:46] <thefish> hehe
[14:46] <DarkTan> a list with "ERROR: Communication problem with knetworkmanager, it probably crashed"
[14:46] <DarkTan> i was trying to launch for the kmenu before
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> DarkTan: its the same deal
[14:47] <DarkTan> i got several "cannot connect to X Server" errors in that list as well
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> DarkTan: i gotta head out to shop but id try get some more sd ram in your system and get an ethernet cable to connect to your router to get updates
[14:48] <afeijo> hi folks
[14:48] <DarkTan> well, i'd have to hook the ethernet up via pcmcia as well
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> DarkTan: http://justlinux.com/forum/showthread.php?t=134911
[14:48] <DarkTan> it's has no nic built in
[14:48] <afeijo> how can I measure my up and down current speed thru telnet?
[14:49] <concernedcitizen> thanks ActionParsnip and thefish
[14:51] <DarkTan> ok, i did what they said, xhost + as a normal user
[14:51] <DarkTan> "Access control is disabled, clients can connect from any host"
[14:54] <ncfi1013_> i installed itunes thru wine in linux and still can't get it to "see" my ipod. i opened up both rhythmbox and songbird; they both "see" my ipod, but i can't get them to sync it. how can i do all three of these things: get itunes to see my ipod thru wine, sync my ipod in rhythmbox, and sync my ipod in songbird?
[14:56] <faileas> ncfi1013_: for linux apps, i think you need libgpod. as for itunes, it dosen't work
[14:56] <faileas> IIRC
[15:10] <malic> Hi! I have installed linux-restricted-modules and now i have no sound.. where is the problem?
[15:11] <vilhelm> what program do you use to play files with?
[15:12] <radirgummy> miau
[15:12] <malic> no.. its not the program.. i have the sign in the task-manager which normaly appears, when the sound is off
[15:12] <malic> and i cant change that
[15:13] <radirgummy> is this an english channel?
[15:13] <faileas> yes
[15:14] <radirgummy> a helpchannel for kubuntuusers?
[15:14] <faileas> ....
[15:14] <faileas> no, its a help channel for etchaketch >_>
[15:14] <faileas> (yes, it is a kubuntu help channel)
[15:15] <radirgummy> sorry i'm new
[15:15] <radirgummy> thx
[15:15] <faileas> don't mind the sarcasm. PMS ;p
[15:15] <radirgummy> ^^
[15:15] <faileas> so...
[15:16] <faileas> whatcha need help with?
[15:16] <radirgummy> well the i hope my english is good enough for this channel
[15:16] <tinel> hi all, I have a little trouble with my notebook wlan, Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG, it has always worked but after upgrading kubuntu to the latest version, scans the area, find the network BUT DOESN'T connect! any help?
[15:16] <faileas> well, there's also language specific channels if anyone is around, if you're more comfortable with it
[15:16] <ganymede> hello, i have read that kde 4.1 packages are available, but when i looked at packages.ubuntu.com, the version listed under kde4 is 3.3, and next to everything else makred with -kde4, it says >=4.0.0, how can i tell which kde version those packages will provide
[15:16] <radirgummy> there is no point i do need help right now....i just found this program  and want to test it
[15:17] <faileas> tinel: hmm.. i'm using the same card. i do recall having some issues with my kde wallet and the encryption settings. i deleted it and reset it and it seemed to fic it
[15:18] <tinel> faileas: i can try.. but how it happends?
[15:19] <faileas> tinel: no idea, it works fine now...
[15:20] <tinel> ok, tell me: do I need to remove only the connection manager or the entire wlan card?
[15:20] <tinel> (drivers of course)
[15:21] <Nyad> hi. how do I keep mounted media such as a cdrom cached. coz I'll be using a mounted cdrom but I'll go off and do other things but then when I want to get back to it then it has to reread the cd
[15:25] <radirgummy> here isn't much talk, is it?
[15:26] <vilhelm_> can anyone help me ?  I Cant see my floppy Drive in Kubuntu
[15:26] <Nyad> coz the room isn't rotating fast?
[15:26] <Nyad> radirgummy,
[15:27] <radirgummy> ?
[15:27] <Nyad> radirgummy, physics joke....
[15:28] <radirgummy> oh, sorry, i'm not that fluent in english
[15:34] <radirgummy> well i'll be out for now...good bye everyone ^^
[15:55] <DarkTan> ok, since kubuntu 8.04 won't opperate properly on my 100mb of ram system, can anyone suggest a distro that will?
[15:58] <DarkTan> is damn small linux any good?
[15:59] <Karol> Never used it
[16:00] <Karol> with 100mb of ram, that's too low
[16:01] <DarkTan> can icewm work with Kubuntu 8.04?
[16:05] <mefisto__> 100mb of ram? really? is this a 386 or something?
[16:05] <shadowhywind> hay all having some MAJOR issues at the moment.. first issue.. is there a correct way to run fsck on kubuntu parition other then fsck /dev/sda#
[16:06] <DarkTan> AMD k5
[16:06] <DarkTan> came with 640kb on board and a 100meg stick
[16:06] <abby87> DarkTan: ever tried running windows on that?
[16:06] <DarkTan> yeah, 95, p8, ME 200
[16:06] <DarkTan> 2000*
[16:06] <DarkTan> they work, but i don't want windows
[16:07] <DarkTan> i got 8.04 on it now, but keep getting crashes that seem to be memory related
[16:07] <DarkTan> i'm thinking i can switch the window manager to a lighter one, now sure tho
[16:07] <DarkTan> not*
[16:08] <abby87> DarkTan: well xfce can run well
[16:08] <DarkTan> xfce? how do i get it on there? i have not internet connection on the computer yet
[16:08] <abby87> DarkTan: increasing swap will do great
[16:09] <DarkTan> can i do that from within kde?
[16:10] <abby87> DarkTan: not with an internet connection :(
[16:10] <abby87> DarkTan: but wat probs r u getting on KDE
[16:10] <abby87> ?
[16:10] <DarkTan> file system protocal crash, multimedia protocol crash, system protocol crash
[16:10] <DarkTan> knetworkmanager crash
[16:10] <DarkTan> xhost crash
[16:10] <abby87> DarkTan: that sounds brutal ...
[16:11] <abby87> DarkTan: u using kde 4? with kubuntU?
[16:11] <DarkTan> somebody gave me a link to a forum post about some of the same issues, it turned out to be a lack of memory
[16:12] <DarkTan> kde4 with kubuntu 8.04
[16:14] <abby87> DarkTan: i guess if u had ubuntu ..it wud have worked good ? try ship..ubuntu has gnome...xubuntu has xfce i guess
[16:15] <DarkTan> can i put xfce on a usb drive and install it that way?
[16:16] <abby87> DarkTan: hmmm i dont know...but there r live cds of desktop environments...xfce must be having those too
[16:16] <DarkTan> looking around thier site now
[16:21] <DarkTan> what is the difference between Xubuntu 8.04 and Kubuntu 8.04?
[16:21] <DarkTan> is it just the WM?
[16:21] <abby87> DarkTan: yes
[16:21] <mefisto__> yes, xubuntu uses xfce instead of kde
[16:22] <abby87> DarkTan: the base OS is same...and so is the kernel
[16:22] <mefisto__> you can install xfce with: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[16:23] <mefisto__> or icewm, with: sudo apt-get install icewm
[16:24] <Quest_> any replacement for "knemo" . it shows live network trafic chart/graph ... ?
[16:25]  * abby87 is listening to Little Favours by KT Tunstall on Drastic Fantastic [Amarok]
[16:25]  * DarkTan has no internet
[16:26]  * DarkTan is currently using a windoze pc to get help fixing his linux
[16:26] <abby87> DarkTan: that's the big hurdle in linux no internet no proper work
[16:27] <DarkTan> yeah
[16:27] <DarkTan> the laptop has no NIC at all. I'm trying in to install a pcmcia card
[16:27] <DarkTan> i might had done it, but can't launch the knetworkmanager to find out
[16:28] <abby87> DarkTan: do u mean that internet is not working on linux but working on windows
[16:28] <abby87> >
[16:28] <abby87> ?
[16:29] <DarkTan> two computers
[16:29] <DarkTan> one with windows, the one i'm using to talk to you
[16:29] <Quest_> any replacement for "knemo" . it shows "live" network trafic "gui" chart/graph ... ?
[16:29] <DarkTan> one with linux, the one i ca't get online
[16:31] <abby87> DarkTan: hmmm
[16:31] <abby87> Quest_: u mean a network monitor
[16:31] <abby87> ?
[16:32] <Quest_> abby87 netwokrk trafic.
[16:32] <abby87> Quest_: sudo apt-get install ntop
[16:33] <Quest_> abby87 its not "live"
[16:34] <abby87> Quest_: wats wrong with knemo?
[16:34] <Quest_> not shwoing exact good graph
[16:34] <Quest_> accurat i mean
[16:35] <abby87> Quest_: i dunno bout live or not but i've heard a lot bout wireshark ....
[16:37] <Quest_> abby87 its not graphical gui. it hink
[16:37] <Quest_> abby87 try conky
[16:37] <Quest_> http://conky.sourceforge.net/conky.png
[16:38] <abby87> Quest_: take a look http://www.gnome.org/projects/gnome-network/screenshots.shtml
[16:38] <drako2> .:
[16:38] <Quest_> abby87 i use kde
[16:38] <drako2> .:
[16:39] <abby87> u can install gnome apps in kde
[16:39] <abby87> Quest_: sudo apt-get install gnome-nettool
[16:39] <drako2> A.:L.:G.:G.:A.:D.:U.:
[16:39] <Quest_> abby87 these are NOT graphical
[16:40] <DarkTan> that it, i give up. trying the debian ver of DSL now
[16:41] <abby87> Quest_: btw wireshark has a graphical frontened
[16:41] <DarkTan> well, once it down loads at least
[16:41] <abby87> *frontend
[16:42]  * DarkTan shall return
[16:42] <Quest_> not like the network graph shown in http://conky.sourceforge.net/conky.png
[16:42] <Quest_> abby87 but you advise good. thanks
[16:43] <koke_kola> hey sorry to bug, im in my etc directory in konsole and want to replace my resolv.conf file with another file, resolv.conf.temp, what is the command to write one file over another?
[16:43] <abby87> DarkTan: good luck with that :)
[16:44] <moes> When I switch windows manager from kwin to compiz I lose the ability to switch workspaces.Also cannot get cube or rotate it in kwin or compiz
[16:44] <abby87> !wireshark
[16:44] <abby87> Quest_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireshark
[16:44] <abby87> Uptime: 1 days, 4 hours and 12 minutes
[16:45] <Quest_> abby87 ok
[16:46] <Hamra> hi, i have a samba share that i manually mount everytime i start the PC, how can i set it to get mounted everytime i boot? do samba shares use fstab as well? if so how?
[16:48] <koke_kola> found the answer...  cp resolv.conf resolv.conf.temp
[16:48] <nejode> koke_kola: sudo mv /etc/resolv.conf  /etc/resolv.conf.temp
[16:48] <mefisto__> moes: switching workspaces works a little differently with compiz. and the rotating cube effect has to be enabled in desktop effects, or install ccsm
[16:49] <moes> Have all of these installed
[16:49] <koke_kola> nejode: thanks!
[16:51] <mefisto__> moes: enable rotating cube in ccsm, and look in "bindings" to see what initiates the effect
[16:51] <phi> hi all
[16:51] <phi> wow, good to see u :-)
[16:52] <moes> mefisto...Do I need to check bindings from the fusion icon
[16:53] <phi> just got my brand new kubuntu with kde 4.1 up and running
[16:53] <l3x> hi guys. how do i move my /home/user dir to another partition? i just finally deleted my windows parittion, formated as ext3, now i wat to move my hoe to that partition. how do i do that?
[16:53] <l3x> phi: is kde4.1 any good?
[16:54] <phi> well, yes, i like it...... although its a little bit rough around the edges ;-)
[16:54] <phi> i suppose in another day i tweaked it enough ;-)
[16:54] <l3x> phi: :) all ppl say that XD
[16:55] <phi> and the graphics are awesome
[16:55] <l3x> any cool special effects?
[16:55] <l3x> i am thinking about moving to kde4, i am now on kde3 and I'm lovin' it
[16:55] <mefisto__> moes: click the "rotate cube" button in ccsm, then go to the "bindings" tab and see what "initiate" is set to. eg, I have it set to <Super>button1 which means holding down the windows key and clicking (and dragging) the 1st mouse button will rotate the cube
[16:56] <l3x> anyone know how do i move my /home folder to another partition?
[16:56] <abby87> l3x: kde 4 is cool
[16:56] <phi> funny thing is: if you enable too many special effects your eyes will hurt ;-)
[16:56] <l3x> abby87: i know :) i'we tried it
[16:57] <phi> so for the moment im using fades, blurs and shadows and some cool app switcher.....
[16:57] <l3x> does kde4 have some cool stuff like compiz does? like viewports and such? i like viewport switching effect and its usability
[16:57] <phi> now i got a question: did anybody in here get the strigi daemon running?
[16:58] <l3x> can you guys help me?
[16:58] <mefisto__> kde4 is getting better all the time, but not quite as good as kde3 yet, imo
[16:58] <mefisto__> but you can have both, so try it out
[16:58] <phi> yeah, it has. It doesnt have the rotating cube from compiz but something more like on mac os 10
[16:59] <antsa> Hi people
[16:59] <phi> hi
[16:59] <l3x> phi: that is cool
[17:00] <jkyro> kde4 is nice
[17:00] <phi> yup very nice :-) l
[17:00] <jkyro> except for some annoying freezes
[17:00] <phi> since i got a new graphics card, i wanted to test the OpenGL performance. Any recommendations?
[17:01] <jkyro> probably network related I guess, wonder if the KDE_NO_IPV6 can be used...
[17:01] <mefisto__> l3x: to install kde4 alongside kde3: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1rc1
[17:01] <phi> mine didnt freeze. I popped up a "Crash" message but everything kept on going .... hehe
[17:01] <l3x> mefisto__: thanx...
[17:02] <phi> good luck l3x
[17:04] <nejode> l3x: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/01/29/move-home-to-its-own-partition/#comments
[17:04] <l3x> thanx alot
[17:05] <nejode> l3x: this one too> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=46866
[17:06] <nejode> l3x: but I use an easier command to copy> cp -ax ... it works perfect
[17:08] <phi> hi again
[17:08] <shadowhywind> ok back with major issue # 2. When i try to boot i am getting crc error followed by Kernel panic - not Syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
[17:13] <l3x> nejode: thanx very much
[17:16] <Nalleman> hi, im running the ordinary ubuntu 8.4 but have seen that there is a new kde version that seems nice. is kde 4.1 worth changing?
[17:17] <moes> meifsto...Set binding to super button one still cannot rotate in kwin or compiz I even rebooted When trying to rotate cube all I get is cursor expands a window
[17:18] <kc8tpz> is there a way to change resolution from command line?  I changed my resolution and now I cant get a picture...I can ssh in
[17:18] <koke_kola> Nalleman: it still has a lot of bugs.. but worth checking out
[17:19] <koke_kola> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[17:19] <Nalleman> koke_kola, ok
[17:19]  * Dark`Star sta ascoltando Long Since Dark di Sanctuary tratta da Into The Mirror Black. (5:07)
[17:20] <craz> Hi all
[17:20] <koke_kola> try that kc8tpz
[17:20] <mefisto__> moes: is compiz running? do you see other compiz effects?
[17:20] <craz> ЙА ТУПО БЛОНДИНКО!!! ПАЧАМУ ТУТ ВСЕ ТРЫНСЛЫТОМ ПЫШУТ?????
[17:21] <kc8tpz> what settings will be lost if one does
[17:21] <craz> Руские еть? =-/
[17:21] <craz> с*
[17:21] <jkyro> njet
[17:21] <kc8tpz> what settings will be lost if one does sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[17:21] <craz> пиздец....
[17:22] <craz> пошли нахуй америкосы ебучие =-|
[17:22] <mefisto__> kc8tpz: basically it will create a new /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[17:22] <moes> mefisto...Not sure if running desktop effects says its installed using custom effects Will try wobbly windows
[17:22] <kc8tpz> are resolutions kept there as well?
[17:22] <koke_kola> kc8tpz: yes
[17:23] <mefisto__> kc8tpz: they are in mine
[17:23] <kc8tpz> ok...that will probably solve my issue as well
[17:23] <kc8tpz> I have to /part to try
[17:23] <mefisto__> kc8tpz: if you want you can back up your current xorg.conf
[17:23] <kc8tpz> Im using the default anyway
[17:24] <kc8tpz> running that command uses the same version as if I installed from ubuntu's package manager, right?
[17:24] <kc8tpz> version of xorg.conf that is
[17:24] <mefisto__> moes: to start compiz: compiz --replace
[17:25] <mefisto__> moes: to start compiz: alt-f2, then: compiz --replace
[17:25] <TheMaxzilla> Does anyone know how I could get the borders of my window back? I'm missing the blue border, and I don't know how to get it back.
[17:26] <mefisto__> TheMaxzilla: try alt-f2, kde-window-decorator
[17:31] <blubbeldiblubb> hello!
[17:32] <blubbeldiblubb> how can i start a executable file in the konsole=
[17:32] <blubbeldiblubb> ?
[17:32] <blubbeldiblubb> i've written a program in c++ and don't know how to start it via the console
[17:32] <[ifrog]> ./<executable>
[17:32] <ioannis__> kanenas apo ELLADA
[17:33] <mefisto__> blubbeldiblubb: have you compiled it?
[17:33] <ioannis__> s
[17:33] <ioannis__> s
[17:33] <ioannis__> s
[17:33] <ioannis__> s
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[17:33] <blubbeldiblubb> yes ;)
[17:33] <ioannis__> s
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[17:33] <blubbeldiblubb> as i said it, i've an executable file...
[17:33] <tomd> blubbeldiblubb: konsole or console ?
[17:33] <blubbeldiblubb> konsole
[17:34] <[ifrog]> ./<executable>
[17:34] <TheMaxzilla> mefisto__: I had to run it from the terminal, and it said to replace it with whatever my current one is. It's fixed now, thanks!
[17:34] <tomd> ifrog has it ... but whats your app do?
[17:34] <TheMaxzilla> Konsole, terminal, shell
[17:34] <blubbeldiblubb> thanks :)
[17:38] <aziz> question: when I switch to a terminal (e.g.: Ctrl+Alt+F1) all the text I see looks very blurry. can something be done about this? i'm on a notebook...
[17:42] <mefisto__> aziz: I fixed this by adding DisplaySize   338 270  in "Monitor" section of /etc/X11/xorg.conf  where 338 270 is the physical screen size of the monitor in millimetres
[17:43] <aziz> mefisto__: intersting. thanks, I'll have a look at that.
[17:43] <aziz> *intersting
[17:43] <aziz> *interesting
[17:43] <aziz>  :)
[17:43] <mefisto__> aziz: you should measure the size of the monitor to find the size of the monitor. hope it works for you. it's very frustrating
[17:43] <mefisto__> aziz: that is, with a ruler
[17:43] <aziz> ok :), but is this the only option?
[17:44] <mefisto__> aziz: I remember seeing other solutions on ubuntuforums, but they didn't work for me
[17:45] <mefisto__> maybe depends on video card
[17:45] <aziz> k
[17:45] <aziz> do you know any useful keywords? to search for...
[17:46] <tomd> aziz: search your latop and xorg.conf
[17:53] <mefisto__> aziz: take a look at this: http://www.mepis.org/node/2992
[17:56] <Edulix> irc://irc.gome.org/gnome
[17:56] <Edulix> ups
[17:58] <aziz> hm it's not clear to me what option i should put where
[17:58] <aziz> "Mode #" ?
[17:58] <aziz> ah that's for grub actually :)
[18:00] <mefisto__> aziz: in grub menu, in the kernel line, vga=#  according to the table on that page to match your screen rez
[18:02] <aziz> k got it. but can i make that a general option?
[18:02] <mefisto__> aziz: also, some laptops have a bios setting that will stretch text mode to fill the screen, or if disabled will show actual text mode screen rez without stretching
[18:02] <roldyx> hello, I need add a new window manager to kdm..
[18:02] <roldyx> do I need config any file??
[18:02] <roldyx> how do config kdm?
[18:04] <aziz> mefisto__: I'll reboot now.
[18:09] <moes> mefisto...Tried compiz ---replace from terminal getting the following;;;Xgl not present..No white list driver found..Aborting and using fallback /usr/bin/kwin..QImage::Smoth Scale:Image is nul image..trying'/home/phil66/.xcompmagrrc'as configfile..finished parsing the config file
[18:09] <roldyx> I have kubuntu 8
[18:09] <mefisto__> !compiz
[18:10] <roldyx> how can change WM I?
[18:11] <roldyx> I need change WM..
[18:12] <roldyx> help me please..
[18:19] <mefisto__> roldyx: which do you want?
[18:20] <roldyx> mefisto__: oroburus
[18:20] <roldyx> mefisto__: oroborus
[18:21] <roldyx> apt-get install oroborus.. restart kdm.. and I canT see the wm
[18:21] <mefisto__> roldyx: not in the kdm menu?
[18:22] <roldyx> only i have default failsafe kdm
[18:22] <roldyx> mefisto__: no
[18:23] <mefisto__> roldyx: sorry, I don't know anything about oroborus
[18:23] <roldyx> mefisto__: and i install other wm and I can see into kdm menu
[18:24] <roldyx> sorry I cant
[18:24] <roldyx> for exameple..
[18:24] <roldyx> i was installed icewm
[18:24] <roldyx> and nothing..
[18:25] <aziz> mefisto__: it works, but unfortunately the splash screen of kubuntu is not displayed correctly :/
[18:25] <mefisto__> aziz: fonts look ok?
[18:26] <roldyx> mefisto__: can you change your wm?
[18:26] <roldyx> or add other to the kdm menu?
[18:26] <aziz> yes, they do
[18:27] <vilhelm> Hello can anyone help me with Ktorrent?
[18:27] <mefisto__> roldyx: I have kde4 and kde3, and used to have xfce, but haven't tried other wm's
[18:27] <vilhelm> cant get Ktorrent to download :/
[18:27] <roldyx> mefisto__: I only have kdm-kde4
[18:27] <mefisto__> aziz: check /etc/usplash.conf for screenrez settings
[18:28] <roldyx> maybe I need install kdm3
[18:28] <mefisto__> roldyx: maybe try asking in #kubuntu-kde4 about it ?
[18:28] <roldyx> thanks
[18:32] <mefisto__> aziz: btw, if you put the vga=# setting in the "# defoptions=" line in menu.lst it will keep that setting when upgrading kernel. otherwise you'll have to edit menu.lst every time it's updated by a kernel upgrade
[18:34] <mefisto__> aziz: you could also put it in the "# altoptions=" line so it works in recovery mode grub choices
[18:35] <aziz> ok thanks
[18:36] <Luke^> hello
[18:38] <Luke^> i have  asked on #kubuntu-devel one question ... they told mi to go here to fined a little support for kubuntu...
[18:38] <yuriy> Luke^: there are pages for many laptops on the wiki that list how well the hardware is supported
[18:39] <Luke^> you mean linux-on-laptops.net? (for example)? i didn't find a satisfied answer there..
[18:40] <Luke^> there is no version listed there which i posess
[18:41] <Luke^> and my problem is really easy to solve for person who's running the kubuntu distro and knows much more than me about linux
[18:42] <yuriy> Luke^: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/LaptopTestingTeam/HewlettPackard
[18:42] <yuriy> Luke^: I don't see your model there but there are similar models you can look at I'm sure
[18:42] <Luke^> i'll check this out, thanks yuri
[18:42] <yuriy> Luke^: you should actually repost your question here though...
[18:47] <Luke^> i found a similar mode that has been tested with kububtu HH...thanks yuriy.
[18:47] <Luke^> bye
[18:52] <Doc629> Hi I am having a problem with my background image disapearing.  I am running Ubuntu 7.10 with KDE 3.5.8
[18:52] <Doc629> can anyone help?
[18:57] <TheMaxzilla> Your desktop image?
[18:57] <TheMaxzilla> Doc629
[18:57] <xanax`> good afternoon
[18:57] <Doc629> TheMaxzilla: Yes it disappears and goes black
[18:58] <Doc629> Is there a bug
[19:00] <TheMaxzilla> perhaps, let me google it.
[19:00] <TheMaxzilla> (after i put ranch on my hamburger, of course)
[19:01] <Doc629> thanks
[19:01] <TheMaxzilla> Are you running Kubuntu 8?
[19:02] <Doc629> 7.10
[19:02] <fat> I need to update amule.  how?
[19:03] <_2> if you people wont call the bot on me, i'll ask a question
[19:04] <TheMaxzilla> Shoot.
[19:04] <_2> how would one go about trouble shooting a broken su program      i have tried everything i could think of.   still no joy.
[19:05] <TheMaxzilla> Doc629: I can't find anything, you may want to go to http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.com
[19:06] <TheMaxzilla> and ask around.
[19:06] <[ifrog]> _2, How do you know its broken ?
[19:08] <_2> [ifrog] [root@localhost/~] su
[19:08] <_2> su: permission denied!
[19:09] <vilhelm>  Hello I DOwnloaded a movie which contains rar files but i'm unable to extract the files :(
[19:09] <TheMaxzilla> sudo su -
[19:09] <TheMaxzilla> try that
[19:09] <_2> why
[19:09] <favro> or use unrar
[19:09] <vilhelm> yeah i tried undrar but it didnt work :(
[19:10] <[ifrog]> _2, ls -l /bin/su                                   ...?
[19:10] <_2> TheMaxzilla sudo sudo sudo sudo sudo su     same as   su   for root
[19:10] <_2> [ifrog] it's not a perms issue
[19:10] <_2> [ifrog] 4755
[19:10] <TheMaxzilla> So your account isn't lacking any permissions?
[19:11] <_2> TheMaxzilla which account ?
[19:11] <TheMaxzilla> Whatever you use
[19:11] <_2> and what do i use ?
[19:11] <_2> look at the prompt
[19:11] <TheMaxzilla> Whatever account you login with
[19:13] <_2> clue-by-four -> [root@localhost/~] su
[19:13] <TheMaxzilla> _2: Are you trying to run graphical pyograms?
[19:13] <TheMaxzilla> *programs
[19:13] <_2> su is non-gui
[19:15] <Doc629> TheMaxzilla: thanks
[19:16] <TheMaxzilla> Doc629
[19:16] <TheMaxzilla> No problem
[19:19] <_2> i installed ubuntu dapper on a usb pin drive (server style install)  and su is broken on it.    i'm trying to set it up as a  recovery system  i can work around this issue with su but i would much prefer having all the tools working,   primarily because that same issue might cause problems with additional tools i might add.     i want su to work for three reasons 1. the afore named 2. because i want to use su - in the inittab so tha
[19:19] <joshuajtl> hi folks, looking for kickoff for hardy... any ideas? (latest kickoff?)
[19:19] <_2> i hate to have anything that just wont work.
[19:20] <joshuajtl> why not hardy _2
[19:20] <_2> i have reinstalled every package but to no profit.
[19:20] <_2> joshuajtl dialup
[19:20] <joshuajtl> ah
[19:21] <_2> i already have dapper    and ubuntu-base has changed little from dapper to hardy    dapper is still supported...
[19:21] <loicmarteau> Riddell, ping, there is a very little things than kubuntu can do with gtk apps in kde to make the visual effect rock
[19:21] <loicmarteau> i just have installed gnome-control center and selected a theme in the appearance stuff
[19:21] <loicmarteau> and now all my gtk apps are just fine in kde
[19:22] <TheMaxzilla> So reinstalling su wouldn't work.
[19:22] <loicmarteau> Riddell, why not selecting a theme by default ?????
[19:22] <abed> hey guys
[19:22] <abed> where do I find a list of channels available to join for the server I am on?
[19:22] <loicmarteau> for kubuntu users
[19:22] <_2> TheMaxzilla like i said i have already.   and more than once.   package that provides su is "login" btw
[19:22] <joshuajtl> hi folks, looking for kickoff for hardy... any ideas? (latest kickoff?)
[19:23] <_2> abed i would be sure to filter it.  but  /list   can list them all
[19:23] <l3x> hello., i messed up: i deleted my first user and created another user, and now i cannot sudo. how do I fix this???
 thanks for that!
[19:23] <_2> i3x  reboot to recovery mode and add your new user to the adm group
[19:24] <loicmarteau> for example with the glossy theme the result is very good
[19:24] <l3x> _2: thank you
[19:24] <loicmarteau> much better than with gtk-qt workaround stuff
[19:25] <l3x> i am in the adm group
[19:25] <_2> l3x if you don't want that user to be "root jr."   you could make a new admin user account    and su to that account when you need to admin the system
[19:25] <l3x> i put myself into sudo group as well
[19:25] <l3x> doesnt help :(
[19:25] <l3x> _2: i want the new user to be sudo able
[19:26] <_2> l3x being in sudo group is evil   it by passes the password prompt and makes the account not "root jr." but full root
[19:26] <pavel_> Zdravím pánové potřebuju pomoct
[19:26] <pavel_> prosím prosím :)
[19:26] <l3x> _2: how do i make my new account able to sudo???
[19:27] <l3x> pavel_: only english here
[19:27] <nejode> l3x: you have to edit the sudoers file
[19:27] <l3x> nejode: where is it?
[19:27] <_2> l3x konsole command: groups | grep -w adm
[19:27] <_2> what does it say ?
[19:27] <rambo3> is there Xchat for kubuntu ?
[19:28] <nejode> l3x: you have to use the visudo command
[19:28] <rambo3> why does it use gnome themes?
[19:28] <joshuajtl> anyone use kickoff menu??
[19:28] <l3x> adm dialout cdrom floppy sudo audio video plugdev scanner lpadmin
[19:28] <l3x> _2: adm dialout cdrom floppy sudo audio video plugdev scanner lpadmin
[19:28] <_2> l3x konsole command: sudo echo "works" || echo "not working"
[19:28] <_2> what does it say ?
[19:29] <l3x> _2:
[19:29] <l3x> [sudo] password for l3x:
[19:29] <l3x> l3x is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[19:29] <l3x> not working
[19:30] <_2> l3x have you edited /etc/sudoers ?
[19:30] <l3x> _2: i do not have the permissions
[19:30] <l3x> i will reboot to edit it
[19:30] <l3x> what to put?
[19:30] <_2> no
[19:30] <l3x> username?
[19:30] <_2> l3x have you edited /etc/sudoers in time past?
[19:30] <l3x> never
[19:30] <_2> k
[19:31] <nejode> l3x: you have to do it in recovery mode as root
[19:31] <l3x> _2: thank you for helping me :)
[19:31] <l3x> i guessed that
[19:31] <l3x> so, i just add my username?
[19:31] <_2> no
[19:31] <_2> would you be still a minute
[19:31] <jkyro> group "admin" might help
[19:32] <l3x> _2: yes, sorry, i have to study, and want to fix this quick :(
[19:32] <_2> jkyro have they switched from adm to admin for the root jr. group ?
[19:32] <jkyro> seems so
 where can I get a reliable list of up-to-date IRC servers?
[19:32] <jkyro> %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL
[19:32] <jkyro> from my sudoers, vanilla kubuntu
[19:32] <jkyro> hardy
[19:32] <_2> l3x see if you have read permission on the sudoers file     grep adm /etc/sudoers
[19:33] <abed> I was hoping to find a group for liberated adults, which does not seem to be available on this server (Ubuntu)
[19:33] <_2> jkyro ok i'll note that.
[19:33] <l3x> permission denied :(
[19:34] <l3x> _2: thank you very much for your help, i really have to go now, i will resolve this some other time
[19:36] <_2> l3x  ok   reboot to recovery mode and add your new user account to the   admin group     usermod -G admin,adm,dialout,cdrom,floppy,audio,video,plugdev,scanner,lpadmin <new user name here>     ;init 2
[19:36] <_2> couldn't wait just that long....     pfft
[19:36] <jkyro> or just adduser <user> admin
[19:37] <_2> ?
[19:37] <jkyro> see adduser man page :)
[19:37] <_2> i know what it does.   but that doesn't fix his account
[19:37] <_2> it makes a new one
[19:38] <jkyro> nope
[19:38] <jkyro> If called with two non-option arguments, adduser will add an existing user to an existing group.
[19:38] <jkyro> quote from the man page
[19:39] <jkyro> has worked for me so far
[19:41] <_2> hmmm yeah just tested it.     so i stand corrected.    thanks for the heads up
[19:42] <_2> they have changed the adm to admin group though.   that makes no sense to me.
[19:42] <_2> that would break some upgrades i would think
[19:43] <Captain-Splendid> hi there
[19:43] <_2> unless they have only renamed it.  what's the gid on admin ?
[19:43] <jkyro> so it's been adm earlier?
[19:43] <_2> yes
[19:43] <Captain-Splendid> how big should my home partition be and how big should my root partition b?
[19:43] <jkyro> 113
[19:43] <jkyro> that was for _2 :)
[19:44] <_2> adm:x:4:   wow
[19:45] <_2> Captain-Splendid the ubuntu system needs about 4g to have sufficient room to breath.   i would normally sujest about 6g for / or more if you have plenty.  and home is never big enough
[19:45] <Captain-Splendid> ha so 10 for both and 2 for swap should be good enough?
[19:45] <_2> i suspect that 800T will be too small for home within a year or two
[19:46] <_2> one can always find something to fill up home with
[19:46] <_2> movies and the like
[19:47] <_2> and yes 10g should be fine for / 2g for swap if you have less than 2g ram and wish to suspend/hybernate   else 2g swap is excessive
[19:47]  * _2 has 0b swap
[19:47] <jkyro> wow
[19:47] <Captain-Splendid> i have 1gb ram
[19:48] <_2> then 1.2g swap will let you hybernate   so more than that is probably a waste of disk space
[19:48] <Captain-Splendid> perfect
[19:48] <Captain-Splendid> thank you :)
[19:49] <_2> jkyro i do run a tight ship though, i'm not propigating 0 swap.
[19:49] <_2> Memory Used/Total Percent: 24/502 MB (4%)
[19:49] <_2> Swap   Used/Total Percent: 0/0 MB (0%)
[19:49] <Captain-Splendid> oh one more thing, home and root have to be ext3 correct?
[19:49] <jkyro> I've got 16G for root, 13 of which is in use
[19:49] <_2> jkyro but not a seperate home i suspect
[19:49] <jkyro> yes
[19:50] <_2> what do you have using 10g in / ?
[19:50] <jkyro> around 200G, of which 70G free :)
[19:50] <Captain-Splendid> and both home and root ahve to be primary right?
[19:50] <Captain-Splendid> primary partition*
[19:51] <jkyro> _2: scratchbox for maemo development
[19:51] <_2> i have kubuntu xubuntu ubuntu -desktop's and lots of other things installed and using less than 8g total
[19:51] <_2> jkyro ah   ok  several verts there ?
[19:51] <_2> Captain-Splendid no   neither have to be primary
[19:52] <jkyro> _2: it's about 1,5G in size
[19:52] <_2> Captain-Splendid only thing you have to watch out for is that grub can read it's files from bios
[19:53] <Captain-Splendid> oh i see
[19:53] <_2> Captain-Splendid linux doesn't even require a partition.
[19:53] <_2> i don't use them
[19:53] <l3x> _2: the group for sudoers was adnim not adm. Tha\nk you very much, you've helped me ti find what was the problem :)
[19:54] <_2> the installer (ubiquity) on the other hand does, as does grub.
[19:54] <l3x> nejode: you were right, admin is the sudoers group. Thank you very very much :)
[19:54] <l3x> have to go now and study, bbye good ppl of kubuntu \0
[19:54] <Captain-Splendid> but in qtparted its asking whether i should set the swap to extended or primary
[19:54] <Captain-Splendid> what should i set it to
[19:55]  * _2 thinks about reposting what i3x missed when he left so quickly...     then desides to keep it to self
[19:55] <_2> Captain-Splendid what ever you like
[19:55] <_2> Captain-Splendid like i said linux doesn't care really
[19:56] <Captain-Splendid> oh ok
[19:56] <_2> i don't have any partitions  and i do have a swap file which i can activate if needed for photo editing and the likes
[19:57] <_2> linux does not require a partition,   it does require a file system with permissions bits.    that's all.      and one can make that filesystem within a file on an ntfs partition   wubi  proves that.
[19:58] <_2> one can make that filesystem on a raw hdd,   my installation proves that
[19:58] <ttaylor62> hello all
[19:58]  * abby87 is listening to I'll Cry Instead by The Beatles on A Hard Day's Night [UK] [Amarok]
[19:58] <Captain-Splendid> thanks for all your help
[19:58] <Captain-Splendid> now to install kubuntu
[19:58] <Captain-Splendid> :)
[19:59] <_2> Captain-Splendid welcome.
[19:59] <_2> abby87 such scripts are not allowed to run here.   just fyi
[20:00] <jkyro> wow, 700M of kernel modules
[20:00] <_2> lol   i have 70m
[20:00]  * jkyro is checking du /
[20:00] <_2> du -sh /*
[20:01] <jkyro> well, I've dist-upgraded from feisty
[20:01] <jkyro> could use some cleanup I guess
[20:02] <_2> i would think so.   i dist upgraded from hoary to dapper  but i do try to run a tight ship.
[20:02] <saikyo78> hi -- i'm new and i hope this is the right place, but can i ask for help with wireless internet for ubuntu here?
[20:02] <TheMaxzilla> #ubuntu might be better for ubuntu...
[20:02] <_2> saikyo78 i can point at the wiki  that's all i can do.  but yes this is the right place
[20:02] <abby87> saikyo78: welcome yes ofcourse u can ask that..but i guess ppl at #ubuntu might help u better
[20:03] <_2> !wifi | saikyo78
[20:03] <saikyo78> got it! thank you so much
[20:03] <saikyo78> oh wow and for that too great
[20:03] <saikyo78> thank you guys
[20:03] <rambo3> where are qt4 header files? What bundle do i have to install
[20:04] <_2> qt4-dev   ?
[20:04] <rambo3> no such thing
[20:05] <_2> rambo3 normally    apt-cache search <name_here> | grep dev     will find it.
[20:05] <rambo3> yeah i know that.
[20:05] <rambo3> no it wont find it
[20:05] <emilsedgh> !info search libqt
[20:05] <emilsedgh> hm
[20:05] <emilsedgh> !info libqt
[20:05] <emilsedgh> !info libqt4
[20:05] <emilsedgh> ah
[20:05] <emilsedgh> :P
[20:06] <_2> well the kde4 channel is --> over there
[20:06] <_2> !kde4
[20:06] <rambo3> yeah maybe you should stop that . get some fresh air
[20:07] <emilsedgh> rambo3: libqt4-dev
[20:07] <emilsedgh> !info libqt4-dev
[20:08] <rambo3> i have that installed emilsedgh
[20:08] <emilsedgh> rambo3: :P
[20:08] <emilsedgh> oh
[20:08] <emilsedgh> hm
[20:08] <rambo3> could it be linking
[20:10] <_2> !info qt4-dev-tools
[20:11] <ttaylor62> Has anyone seen any issues with the ATI 4000 series cards?  Like the 4850?
[20:12] <Captain-Splendid> uhoh
[20:13] <Captain-Splendid> qtparted froze during the paartitioning
[20:13] <Captain-Splendid> what should i do?
[20:13] <rambo3> kill it
[20:13] <Captain-Splendid> but its during the partitioning
[20:13] <Captain-Splendid> will that screw soemthing up?
[20:13] <_2> probably
[20:13] <Captain-Splendid> hmm dont want that
[20:13] <Captain-Splendid> i'll just let it run
[20:13] <Captain-Splendid> and see what happens
[20:14] <rambo3> if it stalls try using fdisk
[20:14] <Captain-Splendid> can fdisk resize a ntfs parition
[20:14] <Captain-Splendid> ?
[20:15] <_2> Captain-Splendid i don't think fdisk does "resize"
[20:16] <rambo3> Don't know it  should since gparted is just frontend for fdisk
[20:16] <_2> gparted is a frontend for parted
[20:17] <basy> Hi, when i shutdown comp. it freezed KDE and i have to switch and login to console CTRL+ALT+F1 and manualy kill -> "killall keytouchd-launch". Is there any logout script, where i can kill as root everithing what i need, plz?
[20:18] <rambo3> _2, what ever
[20:19] <_2> basy you could edit the first init script in that runlevel (0,6) and cause it to "killall5"  which "should work"   might be worth testing.
[20:20]  * _2 has never been a big fan of "slow and stupid" shut down processes anyway
[20:22] <basy> _2: in which dir is that script, plz?
[20:25] <basy> is it in /etc/rc6.d ?
[20:28] <aziz> is there a file in ~/.kde where the resolution and refresh rate is set? apparently Gnome is able to set 85Hz but KDE always resets to 60Hz :/
[20:28] <_2> basy /etc/rc0.d
[20:30] <jkyro> aren't the contents of /etc/rc0.d symnlinks to /etc/init.d?
[20:30] <aziz> you can check with ls -l /etc/rc0.d
[20:35] <momo_> hello
[20:36] <momo_> HI, im having trouble viewing flash on youtube on ultimate edition x64 can u help me out?
[20:39] <tim|bij-pa> hi all, can someone tell me which initscript creates the wlan0:avahi interface? i think it starts avahi-autoipd, but it's not avahi-daemon
[20:39] <vnix> How to solve GDM (GNOME Display Manager) is not running
[20:39] <momo_> HI, im having trouble viewing flash on youtube on ultimate edition x64 can u help me out?
[20:40] <momo_> anyone?
[20:41] <favro> !flash64 | momo_
[20:41] <vnix> Anyone?
[20:41] <vnix> please
[20:42] <favro> vnix: type  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[20:43] <vnix> favro how to make it run?
[20:44] <favro> vnix: hit enter
[20:44] <vnix> It saying that it's not default one
[20:44] <vnix> i want to set my GDM become the default display manager
[20:44] <favro> vnix: are you in kubuntu now?
[20:44] <vnix> ubuntu
[20:45] <vnix> maybe k
[20:45] <vnix> just need to change?
[20:47] <favro> vnix: try   sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop && sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[20:47] <_2> sudo /etc/init.d/?dm sto
[20:48] <_2> p
[20:50] <robotman5> hello
[20:52] <Taggnostr> how can i mount a cd from the terminal?
[20:52] <_2> mount <device> <mountpoint>
[20:52] <_2> man mount       for details
[20:53] <jkyro> mountpoint can be e.g. /media/cdrom
[20:53] <Taggnostr> how can i know the device?
[20:53] <jkyro> you can try first without the device, just mount /media/cdrom
[20:53] <_2> just an fyi     man man ;man intro ;man less   if you don't know about the man command
[20:54] <_2> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d62b0d1fd
[20:54] <_2> that's one way   ^
[20:59] <aziz> answer to my previous question: the file is called ~/.kde/share/config/displayconfigrc
[21:01] <basy> Hi, where are localized files for KDE? There is a bug in Slovak translation of KDE: in all context menu that i opened it displays "_show help: Pomocník" and I belive it should by only "Pomocník", any ideas, plz?
[21:03] <TheMaxzilla> Ok, so I got my driver mounted and everything
[21:03] <aziz> basy: that may be difficult to correct since the files are compiled
[21:03] <Taggnostr> is there an easy way to change the video driver used by xorg.conf to a default one? i could edit the file but i don't know the name of the default
[21:03] <TheMaxzilla> Now I ust need an applet to search for wireless signals, and connect to the netqwork.
[21:03] <TheMaxzilla> *network
[21:03] <PolitikerALT> Hello everybody, does anyone know if there is a way to let everyone just add some files to a directory (if possible, only of certain file types) but not deleting them?
[21:03] <aziz> Taggnostr: i think it's vesa
[21:04] <TheMaxzilla> I also need the applet to be able to connect to WPA encrpted networks.
[21:05] <TheMaxzilla> Anyone know what a good one would be?
[21:05] <matt__> i have an Acer labtop that had windows vista32bit...i need to get the dialup modem working, but Kubuntu can't find it....any help would be great
[21:05] <Taggnostr> aziz, so i can replace the name of the driver with 'vesa', right?
[21:06] <aziz> yes, or nv if you have an NVidia graphics card
[21:08] <matt__> anyone here using dialup networking
[21:08] <_2> matt unfortunately
[21:08] <_2> but i have a modem   and you probably don't
[21:08] <_2> !winmodem
[21:09] <matt__> i used to use the built in modem with vista
[21:09] <matt__> Kubuntu cant find my modem
[21:09] <_2> cause it's not a modem
[21:09] <_2> it's a winmodem
[21:09] <matt__> aw...
[21:10] <matt__> i knpow the hardware part of the Agere HDA sound card
[21:12] <emma> Do the w3codecs come with kubuntu-restricted-extras or can we also get those from medibuntu repositories?
[21:12] <emma> or is there something special for kubuntu
[21:13] <favro> emma: from medibuntu
[21:13] <emma> favro - will the steps work the same for kubuntu as they do for ubuntu?
[21:13] <favro> emma: yep :)
[21:13] <emma> okay :)
[21:13] <_2> medibuntu
[21:14] <matt_> i need a static ip address, do i have to dump knetworkmanager?
[21:15] <favro> matt__: you can edit /etc/network/interfaces
[21:15] <matt__> which matt
[21:15] <favro> the other matt_ ?
[21:15] <matt__> thers 2 of us now
[21:16] <matt_> thats what i do in debian, but something (knetworkmanager?) doesn't like it - sorry my internet did that
[21:16] <Zanella_> vai da a bunda
[21:16] <emma> is there an intrepid list in medibuntu yet?
[21:17] <favro> emma: #ubuntu+1 will know
[21:17] <favro> Bauldrick: you need to add lines for netmask adress etc
[21:18] <Bauldrick> favro: i know all that, but when i restart networking theres nothing
[21:19] <Bauldrick> this is with wpa ,s orry
[21:19] <matt_modem> so i should probly go and buy a $30 USB modem
[21:19] <favro> Bauldrick: k - that's all I do tho...ahhh - never done wireless stuff - sorry
[21:20] <favro> matt_modem: does typing   kppp    in konsole get anything?
[21:21] <matt_modem> ya the kppp dialoge comes up
[21:22] <matt_modem> i have tryied a multitude of modem settings, but i keep ketting a message that says....
[21:22] <matt_modem> "modem is busy"
[21:22] <favro> !winmodem
[21:24] <mn> what is the difference between kubuntu 8.04 and Kubuntu 8.04 KDE4 remix?
[21:25] <favro> mn: kubuntu 8.04 has kde3
[21:26] <mn> oh
[21:27] <matt_modem> thanks...i'll give it a try...
[21:27] <matt_modem> later
[21:27] <JackWinter_> anyone know how i update the nvidia drivers on my hardy ?
[21:28] <favro> !nvidia
[21:32] <Bauldrick> i just found wicd that seems to work better than knetworkmanager at any rate - for wpa & static ip
[21:32] <JackWinter_> i can't find this menu System->Administration->Hardware Drivers ?
[21:35] <jonathan_> hello!
[21:36] <favro> !hi
[21:38] <JackWinter_> sorry i found it, am playing the idiot today it seems :)  thanks
[21:40] <JackWinter_> hmm, the nvidia instructions seem to be for enabling the restricted drivers not updating them ?
[21:42] <Doc629> !desktop image
[21:44] <mn> >	i have been told that for ubuntu security patches are often installed on machines by remote hackers (unbeknown to the owner of the machine). Is this true?
[21:44] <Memory_Moron> I'd go with .. no.
[21:44] <DefID> never heard of that
[21:45] <Memory_Moron> Let me hack into your insecure machine and fix you up... Seems counter productive to me!
[21:47] <favro> JackWinter_: try this - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaManual
[21:49] <morgan> hi all
[21:49] <mn> hello
[21:50] <morgan> I just installed kubuntu 8.04 and now it cant detect my cd/r drive?
[21:50] <morgan> is it something I did or need to do?
[21:51] <JackWinter_> favro: hmm, this looks quite cumbersome...  think i will do some more research and meditate on wether i really need to before going down that road :)  was hoping to get rid of some oddities in compiz...
[21:51] <mn> idk
[21:52] <favro> JackWinter_: I stick to what is supported myself :)
[21:52] <othellix> hi there
[21:52] <othellix> ?
[21:52] <othellix> pls help
[21:53] <othellix> c++ compiler in linux
[21:53] <rickest> ask your question
[21:53] <othellix> c++ compiler in linux?
[21:53] <mn> kubuntu?
[21:53] <mn> in kubuntu?
[21:53] <othellix> iyes
[21:54] <favro> !ajunta
[21:54] <morgan> I just installed kubuntu 8.04 and now it cant detect my cd/r drive?
[21:54] <morgan> is it something I did or need to do?
[21:54] <morgan> please help
[21:54] <rickest> morgan: how to you know it doesn't detect it?  you put a CD in, nothing happens?
[21:54] <mn> othellix, go to the add/remove and then development. should be able to find something there
[21:54] <morgan> yes
[21:55] <othellix> danke
[21:55] <morgan> I looked in 3kb? cd burning software and it doesnt detect the drive
[21:56] <morgan> "cd burner: none    dvd drive: none"
[21:56] <bdizzle> hi, I'm missing several plugins for firefox, but I'm not sure where to find them
[21:58] <morgan> I look in devices through Dolphin and all that is listed is my hard drive
[21:59] <bdizzle> I'm missing Java JRE, Adobe Shockwave Player, Quicktime, and PDF plugins
[21:59] <morgan> it cant be broke I just installed linux and have burned many disks on previous version of linux
[21:59] <morgan> but why cant it detect it?
[21:59] <rickest> morgan: weird, sorry it's beyond me
[22:00] <morgan> hmmm, thank you
[22:05] <mefisto__> can anyone recommend a replacement for ms publisher? scribus or openoffice draw? which is an easier transition for a publisher user? (I'm trying to wean someone off it)
[22:09] <mefisto__> othellix: did you find the compiler?
[22:10] <othellix> yes but i need to learn linux
[22:10] <othellix> comands
[22:10] <othellix> i need documentation
[22:15] <othellix> ark dont open my rar arhiv
[22:15] <othellix> i need a program for that
[22:15] <othellix> ?
[22:16] <rickest> unrar
[22:16] <othellix> ??????????
[22:16] <othellix> un rar
[22:17] <othellix> i have a windows rar arhiv
[22:17] <othellix> amd is a iso file there
[22:17] <othellix> i need the iso file to burn i need help
[22:19] <ShockWave-Eterna> Gah, too many taken nicks
[22:20] <mefisto__> othellix: sudo apt-get install unrar
[22:24] <othellix> i dont understend
[22:25] <othellix> sudo apt-get install unrar
[22:25] <othellix> i need to unrar in a cosole
[22:30] <Nalleman> hi, i would like to change the top (root) directory for pictures in Kphotoalbum. Anyone knows how to?
[22:41] <Nalleman> hi, i would like to change the top (root) directory for pictures in Kphotoalbum. Anyone knows how to?
[22:42] <aidy> hi
[22:42] <aidy> how do i get suspend to disk in kde 4.1?
[22:42] <mn> what is a good IDE for C++ in linux in either GNOME or KDE?
[22:46] <crweb> mn i like kate
[22:46] <crweb> have to turn on the C++/C plugins though
[22:46] <mn> how you do that?
[22:47] <vilhelm> hello i have a small problem .. i dont have any x buttons in every page corner
[22:47] <crweb> its in the config under plugins i believe
[22:47] <mn> of kate?
[22:47] <ubuntu_> hello
[22:48] <ubuntu_> how to change the monito-frame-rate in KDE4.1?
[22:48] <mn> hello ubuntu_
[22:48] <ubuntu_> monitor
[22:48] <mn> i have no idea
[22:48] <ubuntu_> :/
[22:49] <ubuntu_> otherwise KDE4.1 will be un-usable for me :(
[22:50] <mn> i don't even know how to do that in windows (my "native" OS)
[22:53] <genius987> ciao a tutti ragazzi
[22:54] <mn> does kubuntu come with openoffice.org?
[22:57] <Flare183> !hello
[22:57] <Flare183> mn: no
[22:57] <genius987> hello flare
[22:57] <Flare183> hey everyone
[22:57] <genius987> welcome
[22:57] <Flare183> Nah I've been here
[22:57] <Flare183> For long while
[22:58] <mn> does ubuntu?
[22:58] <Flare183> Anyone need help?
[22:58] <ShockWaveEternal> Me
[22:58] <Flare183> !ask
[22:58] <Flare183> Ask away
[22:58]  * Flare183 has used both Kubuntu and Ubuntu
[22:58] <ShockWaveEternal> Do you know how to change the no. of desktops in compiz for the rotating cube?
[22:58] <Flare183> ShockWaveEternal: yes
[22:58] <ShockWaveEternal> This is in KDE
[22:59] <ShockWaveEternal> Because in mine, the option to change is greyed out
[22:59] <Flare183> uh weird
[22:59] <ShockWaveEternal> lol, I know
[22:59] <Flare183> ShockWaveEternal: That means that either compiz is not running or your Graphics card can'
[23:00] <Flare183> ShockWaveEternal: That means that either compiz is not running or your Graphics card can't handle it*
[23:00] <ShockWaveEternal> Well, it should be able to copy with it, it can usually run Quake3 for windows at full fps
[23:00] <Flare183> !hi | kristian_
[23:00] <kristian_> hi
[23:00] <kristian_> hi Flare183
[23:00] <Flare183> Hello kristian_
[23:00] <kristian_> hi ubottu
[23:00] <genius987> hi friends
[23:01] <ShockWaveEternal> And it is running, only problem is, it's basically a flat cube, two sides
[23:01] <kristian_> how are you
[23:01]  * Flare183 is Ubuntu Op Helper
[23:01] <Flare183> good here
[23:01] <Flare183> brb
[23:01] <genius987> i am sicily
[23:01] <kristian_> ah ok
[23:01] <kristian_> oh ok
[23:01] <genius987> you?
[23:01] <genius987> how are you kristian?
[23:02] <kristian_> me good just arrive home from lug
[23:02]  * Flare183 is back
[23:02] <kristian_> i am from germany
[23:03] <genius987> good
[23:03]  * Flare183 = USA
[23:03] <Flare183> !hi | tahir
[23:03] <genius987> i love usa
[23:03] <Flare183> Yeah i know right?
[23:04] <kristian_> yes never talked here channel
[23:04] <kristian_> i been usa
[23:04] <ShockWaveEternal> Flare183: It really. really. helps if I actually set the no of desktops in KDesktop
[23:04] <kristian_> like people friendly i know an d nice beaches
[23:05] <the7thmagus> I just received a new nvidia-glx-envy driver update in the update manager. is this possibly a fix to the crappy nvidia Plasma support?
[23:05] <Flare183> ShockWaveEternal: Yeah I know
[23:05] <ShockWaveEternal> Wow, it still doesn't work
[23:05] <ShockWaveEternal> One sec
[23:05] <Flare183> ...whacky
[23:05] <Flare183> !ping
[23:05] <Flare183> hehe
[23:05] <ShockWaveEternal> I didn't click Apply >_>
[23:05] <Flare183> oh wow
[23:05] <kristian_> oh ok sorry ist support chanel
[23:05] <Flare183> kristian_: But you can do this:
[23:05] <Flare183> !ot
[23:05] <ShockWaveEternal> Oh, that's strange, I click Apply, then close KDesktop, then open it again and it's reset to 1 desktop
[23:06] <Flare183> Compiz and the KDesktop don't really get along
[23:06] <ShockWaveEternal> lol
[23:06] <ShockWaveEternal> Is there any way to override kdesktop's settings?
[23:07] <aidy> how do i get suspend to disk in kde 4.1? (there's only shutdown/restart in the 'leave' section of the menu
[23:07] <Flare183> yeah bye removing the KPager off of the taskbar
[23:07] <Flare183> !kde4 | aidy
[23:07] <vilhelm> Flare183 compiz and KDE does get along
[23:07] <ShockWaveEternal> What does the icon look like for kpager?
[23:08] <Flare183> vilhelm: Yeah well I did on my but the KPager didn't
[23:08] <ShockWaveEternal> Because it's nowhere to be seen
[23:08] <Flare183> ShockWaveEternal: looks like this: http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:2QrLuR63l-qa7M:http://www.kde.org/history/pics/kpager.png
[23:08] <florian> Hi! Is it possible in amarok to search shoutcast-streams? Like in winamp?
[23:08] <ShockWaveEternal> Oo, it's OK
[23:08] <ShockWaveEternal> I got it by right clicking
[23:09] <vilhelm> flare you mean you couldnt add more than 2 pagers?
[23:09] <ShockWaveEternal> Argh, still doesn't workk, gimme a sec
[23:09] <florian> something like choosing "Trance" and then sort for bitrate or search for a channel playing tunnel trance force etc.?
[23:09] <ShockWaveEternal> I'm going to look around
[23:09] <Flare183> vilhelm: No it would mess up, I would tell it to goto a desktop that was bigger than compiz had set and it would flip too many times
[23:09] <Flare183> ShockWaveEternal: kk
[23:10] <vilhelm> Flare Ok
[23:10] <Flare183> Yeah....
[23:10] <ShockWaveEternal> Oh, is this possible:
[23:10] <vilhelm> then i'm lucky cuz mine works fine
[23:10] <ShockWaveEternal> I change it in KDesktop, then close KDesktop, but Compiz is still set to one and it changes it back?
[23:11] <Flare183> ShockWaveEternal: Yeap
[23:11] <ShockWaveEternal> Agh, one sec
[23:11] <ShockWaveEternal> lol
[23:12] <Flare183> +part
[23:12] <Flare183> oops sry about that
[23:12] <ShockWaveEternal> Well, that wasn't it
[23:12] <Flare183> !ccsm
[23:13] <ShockWaveEternal> !compiz
[23:13]  * ShockWaveEternal goes to channel
[23:13] <Flare183> !screenlets
[23:13] <Flare183> !desktop
[23:14] <Flare183> brb
[23:15] <Flare183> I'm back
[23:17] <vilhelm> can anyone help me with this problem? I dont know why I dont have any  "x" buttons in every page corner :(
[23:20] <mefisto__> vilhelm: just the x button is missing?
[23:20] <ShockWaveEternal> Finally, it's working completely
[23:21] <dwidmann> vilhelm: is the whole titlebar mising, or just the X?
[23:21] <vilhelm> only the x and -
[23:21] <ShockWaveEternal> Do you use kde?
[23:22] <vilhelm> yes i use KDE
[23:22] <ShockWaveEternal> Hmm, if you have emerald installed, check your current theme
[23:23] <ShockWaveEternal> brb
[23:31] <genius987> goodbye friends
[23:39] <waltercool> hi there... im trying to mount a FAT pendrive, but kde4.1 try to mount it like CDROM... and fails
[23:39] <ilembitov> Hi, all. Where can I see the plans for the next Kubuntu release?
[23:41] <mefisto__> www.kubuntu.org
[23:46] <othellix> help
[23:47] <othellix> i dont have aq compiler
[23:48] <mefisto__> othellix: what happened? we just installed g++
[23:55] <othellix> yes
[23:55] <othellix> i have
[23:55] <othellix> sorry
[23:55] <othellix> firt i will read and then i will do
[23:55] <othellix> bye all tomorrow to work
[23:55] <othellix> :((
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[23:59] <mefisto__> can anyone recommend a replacement for ms publisher? scribus or openoffice draw? which is an easier transition for a publisher user? (I'm trying to wean someone off publisher)