/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/08/13/#launchpad.txt

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jjessegood evening, i'm having problems with checking out the ubuntu-docs getting the following error:  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/3701402:11
lifelessjjesse: did you create the ubuntu-doc directory locally yourself ?02:12
jjesselifeless: no i didn't02:12
lifelessinteresting :/02:12
jjessei can checkout other branches from lp w/ no issues02:13
jjessei have the same error message with kubuntu-doc02:13
lifelessspiv: ^ first guesses?02:13
* spiv looks02:14
spivThat branch on lp is in rich-root-pack format.02:15
jjessesorry that is greek to me02:15
spivSorry, I'll elaborate.02:15
lifelessspiv: the local branch creation is doing the wrong thing possibly?02:15
jjesseok02:16
lifelessjjesse: what version of bzr do you have ?02:16
spivlifeless: I think there's already a local repo02:16
lifeless11:12 < lifeless> jjesse: did you create the ubuntu-doc directory locally yourself ?02:16
lifeless11:12 < jjesse> lifeless: no i didn't02:16
spivAh, hmm.02:16
lifelessconfusion can of course ensure02:16
lifelessensue I mean02:16
spivjjesse: so, the immediate cause is that the branch on launchpad is in a different format to the one being created locally02:17
spivjjesse: it's not clear yet why this has happened.02:17
jjessespiv: ok02:17
spivjjesse: what version of bzr are you using?02:18
jjesse1.5 on intrepid02:18
* spiv tries to reproduc02:19
jjessei was talking to sommer on #ubuntu-doc last night and on his intrepid build he couldn't reproduce it checked out fine02:19
jjesseshould i be doing a bzr checkout lp:ubuntu-doc ?02:20
spivYes, that command should work.02:20
spivOk, I get that error with bzr 1.5 too.02:22
spivBut not with bzr 1.6rc102:22
spivjjesse: There's a PPA with 1.6rc1 in it at https://launchpad.net/~bzr-beta-ppa/+archive02:23
spivjjesse: if you upgrade to that it should fix the problem, or you can use "bzr checkout sftp://jjesse@bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-doc/ubuntu-doc/ubuntu-intrepid ubuntu-doc" as a workaround with 1.5.02:24
jjessewill 1.6 make it to intrepid?02:24
spivYes, I expect it will.02:24
jjessechecking it out w/ 1.5 like you suggested02:25
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fabrice_spHi. I'm looking for using launchpad as my openID provider, but I can't find in my profile the URL I shall be using in other website. Am I blind or the accessis limited for the moment?05:58
jmlfabrice_sp: on my page I see it in a field called "OpenID login:"06:02
jmlfabrice_sp: just above Time Zone06:03
jmlfabrice_sp: in a table below my name06:03
fabrice_sp_sorry: I get disconnected because of lag...06:14
fabrice_sp_jml: did you answered me?06:15
jml<jml> fabrice_sp: on my page I see it in a field called "OpenID login:"06:17
jml fabrice_sp: just above Time Zone06:17
jml fabrice_sp: in a table below my name06:17
fabrice_sp_jml: I don't have it on mine. Are you launchpad beta test team member? According to wiki, they are the only one to see it (but don't know if it's up-to-date or not)06:20
jmlfabrice_sp: I am.06:20
fabrice_sp_jml: ok. So the wiki is still accurate :-) Thanks.06:21
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fabrice_spjml: is it possible to enable it without being member of the beta test team?06:23
jmlfabrice_sp: I don't think so.06:24
jmlfabrice_sp: it'll be available to everyone pretty soon though.06:25
fabrice_spjml: ok. Thanks for your answers ;-)06:25
jmlfabrice_sp: np :)06:28
jameshfabrice_sp: there are plans to change the identity URLs to something more memorable, so now is probably not the best time to use LP as an OpenID provider (unless you just want to delegate to it)06:36
jamesh(one of the reasons it isn't exposed generally)06:37
fabrice_spjamesh: and do you know when it will be open to everybody?06:38
jameshwhen the changes I mentioned above have been made and tested, I'd guess06:38
fabrice_spok. I'll wait then. Thanks!06:39
jameshfabrice_sp: we don't want people to rely on identity URLs that we won't be maintaining long term06:39
jameshand it wasn't til the beta test that the problems with the current scheme really showed up.06:40
fabrice_spjamesh: makes sense. That's what beta are for :-)06:40
jameshfabrice_sp: that said, if you want to delegate some other URL to use LP as an OpenID provider, that isn't so much of a problem06:41
jameshyou'd just need to update the delegation later on06:41
fabrice_spjamesh: ok. But as I don't see my openID URL, I'm not able to use it, even delegating, right? That's why I have to wait until it's publicly available, as far as I understand.06:44
jameshfabrice_sp: entering "https://login.launchpad.net" at http://openidenabled.com/python-openid/trunk/examples/consumer/ should tell you06:45
fabrice_spjamesh: greaaaat! You're the man :-) I just have to update my webpage, to delegate to the url I see, and that's it. Thanks!06:47
jameshfabrice_sp: the headers needed to do delegation on https://help.launchpad.net/OpenID are mostly correct, although I think openid.server is meant to be https://login.launchpad.net/+openid06:49
fabrice_spjamesh: I'll do a test then with the openid server you said, and the info in https://help.launchpad.net/OpenID (after work :-) ) thanks!06:58
jameshfabrice_sp: you should be able to use that openidenabled.com site to test the delegation too06:59
fabrice_spjamesh: good point. I'll do that. Thanks again!07:00
chxhi. if you compare http://drupal.org/project/cvs/3060?nid=3060&page=0&nid=3060 http://drupal.org/project/cvs/3060?nid=3060&page=1&nid=3060 to https://code.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/drupal/main you can see that since about a day ago the import does not import anything new08:31
thumperchx: https://code.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/drupal/main seems up to date to me09:28
chxthumper: now it is . thanks .09:30
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ignashi11:55
ignaswho do I have to prod to get my translation templates approved?11:56
intellectronicaignas: jtv or danilos should be able to help11:57
jtvignas: hi11:57
jtvignas, what project?11:57
ignashttps://translations.launchpad.net/schooltool/2008.4/+imports11:58
ignasjtv: hi11:58
jtvignas: the schooltool one is an update for the existing one?11:59
ignasyes, kind of11:59
jtvnot exactly?11:59
ignaswell - we are serializing our release process, so on one hand - it is newer than the one assigned to trunk12:00
ignasbut at the same time, trunk should get updated some time in the future, or we should stop translating trunk altogether12:00
ignasnot sure at the moment12:00
jtvignas: from our perspective, the release series live completely separate lives.12:00
jtvSo for now, the only question is whether schooltool.pot replaces the schooltool template that's already in this series.12:01
ignasthere are no templates in that series12:01
ignasat the moment12:01
ignasso - it is not replacing anything12:01
jtvignas: I do see templates!12:02
ignaswhere? https://translations.launchpad.net/schooltool/2008.4 ?12:02
ignas2008.4 has only schooltool.lyceum.journal.pot12:02
ignasbut no schooltool.pot12:02
jtvignas: that's where I saw them, so maybe they're deactivated.12:02
jtvI can't check for another minute or so because I accidentally closed my browser and then accepted some upgrades.12:03
ignasdeactivated? maybe because I wanted to upload templates earlier12:03
ignasbut canceled it in the review phase12:03
ignasand then uploaded the "good" ones12:03
ignasnow12:03
jtvignas: I saw a bunch of templates, with translations even.12:04
jtvignas: oh wait, my browser is back and it seems I was looking at the development branch.12:04
ignasI see12:05
jtvignas: sorry about that :)12:05
jtvignas: they're approved now.  Should start importing in a few minutes.12:07
ignascool, thanks12:07
jtvnp12:09
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jtvignas: the first of your templates is imported.  If the queue is a bit busy, it'll be a few more minutes before the next one is processed.12:22
ignasjtv: what is the procedure of moving of old translations into the new template?12:36
jtvignas: easiest is to import the ones from the old series, and upload them to the new series.  That way they provide a nice "warm start" for the new series.12:37
ignasjtv: thanks, I will try that12:39
jtvignas: by the way, both your templates imported now.  Enjoy!12:40
ignasjtv: all of these po files will have to be reviewed?12:53
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c0mpub0mbquestion, what is launchpad written in ?13:06
c0mpub0mbjust curious.13:06
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compubomb?..13:06
kikodneary!13:10
kikocompubomb, it's written in python, using zope 3 and storm13:10
dnearykiko?13:10
kikohow's it going13:10
dnearykiko: Good :)13:10
kikogood to hear13:11
kikoI just finally got back into brazil13:11
dnearyPreparing a semi marathon for September, and got some cycling in the alps last weekend :)13:11
dnearyDid the Cormet de Roselend13:11
dnearyAnd the Col des Saisies13:11
dnearyA short cycle - only about 45k - but nice climbs13:11
kikowow, the col de saisies is very nice13:12
dnearyyou know it?13:12
kikoI was out in walnut creek two weeks ago and did lots of climbing around there; my sister lives right at the end of mount diablo13:12
kikoyeah, it is a famous climb13:12
dnearyMy in-laws have a chalet not far from there, so it was a very short climb13:12
dnearyAnd then down to Beaufort, and up to the Cormet13:12
dnearyNormally, the Saisies gets done either from Albertville or Ugine, or from the other side (Beaufort, Hauteluce)13:14
dnearyIt's a nice area, anyway13:14
kikoyeah, absolutely13:14
dnearyAnd I didn't exactly push hard to race up either.13:14
dnearykiko: Do you guys have any election software for things like community councils?13:15
dnearyOr is that just the motus?13:15
dnearyAnd they're nominated, right?13:15
kikodneary, launchpad has some basic voting facilities attached to teams13:15
dnearyhmmm13:16
dnearylooking for something easy to set up for a maemo election13:16
dnearyThinking of taking the GNOME software13:16
dnearywe will have candidates, and a list of eligible voters.13:16
dnearyOne man, one vote13:16
dnearyTop 5 elected.13:16
kikoI think launchpad can handle that fine13:17
kikoone sec13:17
dnearySimple, straightforward, but if I can manage it, I'd like a verifiable anonymous voting system13:17
raavanI need help regarding usage of text data from launchpad.net for my college project13:20
raavananyone?13:20
kikoraavan, text data?13:21
raavanI'm a management student13:23
raavannothing to do with code.. I have a project on management function:control13:23
raavanI can see launchpad as a nice control application which is used as in function of controlling software projects13:24
raavanI'll be refering help/faq/wiki/tour to compile my project13:25
compubombi'm having some problems with ssh authentication using my public key13:26
compubombi do a lot of my dev on windows via zend studio, but i use samba to store all my files, when i need console i load up putty to my ubuntu-server13:26
raavankiko.13:26
compubombi have a functioning cd key etc, but it's saying "Could not open a connection to your authentication agent."13:27
compubombproblem is solving this by typing xterm is not possible as i'm in a terminal emulator.13:27
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kikoraavan, so.. I'm not sure exactly what you're asking me. I think you're asking if it's a good idea to host your non-coding project on Launchpad.13:31
raavanno, I'm asking whether I can select Launchpad as my case in a project on Controlling function of management13:34
kikoraavan, hmmm. well, I think you /can/ but I might be able to help you more if you tell me what the project is actually about13:35
raavanI'll be writing on basics of how launchpad works and how it helps in management of software projects13:35
raavanThe topic of project is "Control Function" and I believe Launchpad is helpful for controlling development of software projects13:37
kikoraavan, it sounds like a great idea if you explain it that way. there's a lot of data in launchpad to support a number of interesting studies, and the information is all in a single place13:38
raavanIs it legal if I refer and jot down some of the points from https://launchpad.net/+tour/index13:39
kikoraavan, I believe you, though you should check with Rinchen to be sure, and if it isn't, I'll get you a note of explicit consent13:40
raavanHow should i go about it? where can I find Rinchen?13:41
kikoraavan, he'll be on in an hour or so, he's in colorado13:44
raavanI'm searched him on launchpad. Should I contact him via email?13:44
kikoraavan, sure, you can do that too13:45
raavanthank you kiko, should i mention our chat in the email?13:46
raavanThank you very much! The project will be presented in front of the management of the college. our college is known for IT vsit.edu.in It might also help in promotion of humanity13:48
compubombwhat does this mean ?13:48
compubombPath: /data/www/hosts/test-work.ath.cx : bzr push lp:~robertkraig/+junk/mycms13:48
compubombbzr: ERROR: Target directory lp:~robertkraig/+junk/mycms already exists, but does not have a valid .bzr directory. Supply --use-existing-dir to push there anyway.13:48
kikoraavan, sure thing, that's pretty cool.13:48
kikocompubomb, maybe you had an interrupted push done to there before which left junk around?13:49
compubombkiko: how do i fix it ?13:49
beunocompubomb, bzr push lp:~robertkraig/+junk/mycms --use-existing-dir13:49
kikocompubomb, uhh, read the error message, first. :-)13:50
* beuno gave the answer away13:50
raavanthank you once again, I'll be in touch. bye friends13:52
compubombkiko: the problem is, i keep thinking i'm doing it wrong, how do i view the code i've uploaded to lp ?13:52
compubombkiko: first i did > bzr init; bzr add; bzr commit; bzr push lp:~robertkraig/+junk/mycms --use-existing-dir13:53
compubombshouldn't my code show up on lp ?13:53
kikocompubomb, it takes a few minutes for the scanner to run13:53
compubombkiko: then how do i view what i have there remotely ?13:54
kikocompubomb, after those minutes have passed the changes will show up in your code.launchpad.net page13:54
compubombkiko: it says i haven't commited anything.13:56
beunocompubomb, the branch actually looks empty13:56
beunoba you run locally:  bzr log13:56
beuno*can13:56
compubombbeuno: sure13:56
compubombit's empty13:57
compubombbeuno: doesn't print anything13:57
beunogood, then it's not LP's fault  :)13:57
compubombjust shows up empty13:57
beunocompubomb, did you do a commit?13:57
compubombUser: compubomb Host: ubuntuserver13:57
compubombPath: /data/www/hosts/test-work.ath.cx : bzr commit lp:~robertkraig/+junk/mycms13:57
compubombbzr: ERROR: Path(s) are not versioned: "lp:~robertkraig/+junk/mycms"13:57
compubombi was trying to do a commit, wtf am i doing wrong ?13:57
beunocompubomb, you have to commit locally first13:57
beunothen push13:57
compubombbeuno: i have i believe13:58
beunoso, in the local branch,  bzr commit -m'Cute commit message'13:58
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beunocompubomb, bzr is saying you haven't13:58
compubombbeuno: i didn't know you had to use a commit message by default14:00
beunocompubomb, you always have to specify a commit message. You can either specify it in the command, or just do "bzr commit", and your default text editor will popup asking for one14:00
kikoI don't think you have to14:00
kikoit pops up an editor14:00
beunoso you can run, but you can't hide14:01
compubombis this good ? http://rafb.net/p/clQWNK59.html14:01
beunocompubomb, wonderful :)14:01
compubombso does that mean my stuff is uploaded ?14:01
beunonot, push again, and your all set on Launchpad14:01
compubombpush again ?14:01
compubombokay.14:01
beuno*now.  Damn I suck at typing before my morning coffee14:02
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beunocompubomb, it will now remember the location, so you can just do:  bzr push14:02
compubombbeuno: when i typed it again, ti said "No new revisions to push."14:02
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compubombbeuno: so if i modify a file, all i have to do is bzr commit; bzr push ?14:04
beunocompubomb, yeap14:04
* compubomb makes a macro alias :P14:04
beunocompubomb, you want to commit and push in one step?14:04
compubombalias bzr-save="bzr commit&&bzr push"14:05
beunocompubomb, you can do it easier/better then that14:05
compubombbeuno: oh..14:05
compubombhow so ?14:05
beunocompubomb, have you run "bzr add", to version all the files?14:06
compubombbeuno: believe so.14:06
beunoyou can use "checkouts" instead of branches14:06
beunoso, try this in a different dir:   bzr co lp:~robertkraig/+junk/mycms14:07
beunothat will create a checkout14:07
beunobound to lp:~robertkraig/+junk/mycms14:07
beunoso, whenever you commit locally, it will commit online14:07
compubombi'll give it a shot14:07
compubombbzr co lp:~robertkraig/+junk/mycms test.krob.ath.cx <-- will this create a directory for me ?14:08
ignasjtv: will po file uploads have to wait for your approval too? or will they get through automatically? i mean - i can see them in the queue as needing review...14:08
compubomband put all the information inside of it?14:08
beunocompubomb, yeap14:08
beunocompubomb, a good investment of time would be to go through: http://doc.bazaar-vcs.org/latest/en/user-guide/index.html14:09
jtvignas: they should normally go in automatically, though the automated review may take a bit longer than the import itself.14:09
ignasjtv: "automated review" ?14:09
jtvignas: yes, there is an automated review process that tries to approve as much as it safely can.  Items that stay in the queue for too long are then reviewed by a human.14:10
compubombbeuno: definately easier to use then svn14:11
compubomb:p14:11
beunocompubomb, absolutely!14:11
ignasjtv: i see, thanks for the information14:13
jtvignas: np14:13
TheEricany chance of some LP admin fixing our repository? Due to some weird bug (report submitted) our revision history shows as 0 and we're unable to get the most recent revision.14:59
Peng_What about renaming/deleting and recreating the branch?15:00
TheErichttps://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad-bazaar/+bug/25734015:01
ubottuLaunchpad bug 257340 in launchpad-bazaar "Revision History set to 0 following push" [Undecided,New]15:01
TheErichaven't tried that.15:01
Peng_(You shouldn't delete it, since it might still be helpful to figure out what went wrong.)15:03
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Peng_jml: So, bzr+http? :D15:04
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andylockranhey guys16:26
andylockranwhat's the best way to undo a revision.. i.e move the main branch back to revision 345 from current revision 34916:27
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jpdsandylockran: "bzr uncommit" till what you want.16:27
jpdsandylockran: Do the changes you want then "bzr commit"16:28
andylockranjpds, thanks16:28
jpdsandylockran: Then "bzr pull --overwrite"16:28
jpdsandylockran: Err, push*16:29
Peng_andylockran: It might be better to just make a new commit that reverts the bad revisions, rather than destroying history.16:29
andylockranPeng_: I need to destory the history.. uploaded a md5 hashed password.. no biggy, and other miniscule changes16:31
andylockranhow to bzr uncommit on the actual launchpad repo.  I do it locally and it says "no new revisions to push" when I push it (which makes sense)16:31
Peng_andylockran: push --overwrite16:31
andylockranta16:31
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rtgis anyone else having problems reporting bugs from https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug ?18:13
kikortg, is it timing out? or something else?18:17
rtgkiko: timeout error18:17
rtgkiko: I disabled redirection as well.18:17
rtg(Error ID: OOPS-956A3049)18:18
ubottuhttps://devpad.canonical.com/~jamesh/oops.cgi/956A304918:18
ignasjtv: i can see schooltool-lt.po template approved in https://translations.launchpad.net/schooltool/2008.4/+imports, but Lithuanian translation still has no translated strings in it...18:19
kikortg, there's a load issue on the DB server at the moment, we're looking into it18:19
rtgkiko: I guess its time for a break then.18:19
kikortg, sorry bout that18:19
jtvignas, kiko: actually, I think it's because the system isn't confident enough that "schooltool-lt" means Lithuanian.18:19
ignasbut i have uploaded the tarball that i have downloaded from launchpad18:20
jtvignas: if that file was created from an upload, then it will have the name of the originally uploaded file.18:20
ignasi just canceled the "pot" file that was included in the launchpad-export.tgz18:20
jtvignas: it's also possible that a published upload changed the name.  The system assumes that published uploads have "better" file names.18:21
ignasbut other than that, it's the tarball that I got from https://translations.launchpad.net/schooltool/development/+pots/schooltool18:21
ignas /+export18:22
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kikortg, can you try again and see if it works now?18:23
rtgkiko: still timing out18:24
ignasjtv: not sure what you mean by "published uploads"18:25
jtvignas: nm, you're right about the names.  I'm falling asleep here.18:25
ignasjtv: oh, sorry, didn't know it's late where you are...18:26
jtvignas: not your fault :-)18:26
kikortg, hmmm18:26
jtvignas: blame the solar system :)18:26
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ignasjtv: cool, don't know if you did anything, but lithuanian has a bunch of translations now18:37
jtvignas: wasn't me, so auto-approval seems to be working :)18:38
ignasalbeit slowly ;)18:38
TheEricany word about bug #257340 ?18:38
ubottuLaunchpad bug 257340 in launchpad-bazaar "Revision History set to 0 following push" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/25734018:38
jjessegood afteronn trying to checkout kubuntu-docs w/ intrepid and getting the following error: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/37214/19:08
ignasjtv, danilos: could any of you approve schooltool-es.po in https://translations.launchpad.net/schooltool/2008.4/+imports , please, i have a translator who is very eager to start his job ;)19:15
jtvignas: done19:20
ignasjtv: thanks19:21
thumperTheEric: it seems that someone has pushed up a broken branch19:43
thumperTheEric: we have a quarantine area which is where pushes go19:43
thumperTheEric: `bzr branch lp:xpattern` -> bzr: ERROR: bzrlib.errors.NotLefthandHistory: Supplied history does not follow left-hand parents19:45
thumperTheEric: I guess a question would be "how did this happen?"19:45
TheEricExactly. The person who pushed previously didn't do anything different than what they did previously.19:45
TheEricNo clue. They didn't use any --overwrite rule or anything.19:46
thumperTheEric: using which version of bzr?19:47
TheEricI don't know which version they're using. We're still waiting on a their .bzr.log file19:47
TheEricon their .bzr.log file, even.19:48
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TheErichow would one reconcile without using ssh?20:15
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TheEricthat sftp:// reconcile failed : http://pastebin.com/m65dc142321:13
TheEricHere's the .bzr.log file - http://pastebin.com/m13f08af121:17
ignasjtv, danilos: sorry to be disturbing you again, but maybe any of you is on-line?21:24
moreatiWhat is the syntax to link another lp bug in a comment?21:40
kikomoreati, "bug XXX"21:42
kikothough the syntax is quite flexible, that's the simplest thing that's known to work21:42
moreatiah, that's far too straigh forward. Thanks.21:42
jamHi everybody. I'm trying to make use of the PPA copy functionality to create a package for multiple series21:51
jamBut when I do a "copy" it just tells me that the target already exists21:51
jamThe following source cannot be copied: bzr 1.6~rc2-1~bazaar1~hardy1 in hardy (same version already building in the destination archive for Hardy)21:51
jamEven though I've selected a different target series.21:52
kikojam: what are you copying to?21:53
jamkiko: I'm trying to copy within the ~bzr-beta-ppa, so that I have packages for Gutsy/Hardy/Intrepid21:53
jamATM, we have to build new packages locally, and upload them21:54
jamand when you are supporting 5+ series21:54
jamthat is a pain21:54
kikoagreed21:54
jamThe copy feature seems ideal for it, except it doesn't work21:54
kikojam: hang on a little bit.21:57
jamI'm trying to figure out if it is by design (because it only wants 1 ...~hardy1 package and isn't going to rename it to ~gutsy1), or if it is just a bug.21:57
kikoit only wants 1 ~hardy1 package, yes.21:58
kikohowever, AFAIK copying sources and binaries across should work21:58
beunokiko, the problem is, when you copy hardy -> gutsy, the dependency versions stick for hardy, so it doesn't meet them for gutsy21:59
kikobeuno, and if you copy just the sources, it doesn't let you?21:59
beunokiko, I don't remember why, but last time I couldn't use the "copy source"22:00
kikohmph.22:00
beunohad to to binary22:00
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kikobeuno, jam, oh! could it be that it doesn't let you copy because the source isn't yet published? I see it's still pending.22:00
jamkiko: well, I'm not copying binaries22:01
jambut possibly22:01
kikothe source isn't published yet22:01
kikohmmm22:01
beunoit is now, according to https://edge.launchpad.net/~bzr/+archive22:01
jambeuno: yeah, it just updated22:01
jamI'll try again22:01
kikoah, indeed22:02
jamkiko: nope, same error22:02
jam kiko: so on this note, who do we talk to to get beuno approved for ~bzr-beta-ppa22:02
jampoolie is the only admin ,and he's away on vacation22:02
jamAnd the alternative is beuno uploading them somewhere so I can upload them one-by-one22:03
kikojam, I guess that points out a problem in your team structure :-) I can approve, though, I think.22:03
jamwell, 2 problems22:03
jam1) I'm a member, but not an admin22:03
jam2) I've never been really willing to go through the pain of rebuilding the .deb manually for each platform22:04
kikojam: I'll make you an admin. hang on.22:04
jamso I've hired beuno to do the manual work for me22:04
jam:)22:04
kikodone!22:04
* beuno gets hired to do all kinds of things22:04
kikothat is true!22:04
LarstiQtotta.22:05
* cody-somerville hires beuno to cook supper.22:05
jambeuno: well, you volunteered for this one :)22:05
jamthat is your fault22:05
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jamI just came back and asked for more22:06
LarstiQjam: which is then your fault? :P22:06
jambeuno: you are approved22:06
jamLarstiQ: :) well, he did *accept*, not like I forced him in any way.22:06
beunocody-somerville, supper will be served in 2 hours. I expect I won't have to re-heat it for you, will I?22:07
jamI can't help it if he has a penchant for .deb building22:07
jamaway for a bit22:08
beunoLarstiQ, btw, hi!22:08
beunokiko, so, your bet is that if I copy source, it should work between releases?22:09
kikono22:09
kikoI actually think that copying doesn't usually work within the same archive because of the need to prevent naming collisions22:09
beunodamn, I was hoping to off-load the guilt to someone else22:09
LarstiQbeuno: heya :)22:10
beunokiko, I'm pretty sure the naming won't be a problem. Just the dependencies.22:10
kikobeuno, what I meant to say is:22:10
kikoa) you can't really "copy" source within the same archive. if you do, you'd get a naming conflict (as there can only be one version of it). but that's okay -- let's say you just make it available in the other releases index file. well, then..22:11
kikob) if you copy binaries then yes, the binaries are often uninstallable because the versions of the dependencies don't work22:11
kikoc) however, if you don't copy binaries, we can't rebuild because we'd have naming collisions when the binary was produced22:12
beunokiko, makes more sense now. The features should be re-thought then, I think22:12
kikobeuno, I think copying packages within the same archive only works in really restricted circumstances, and I agree22:12
hubuntugeneral question: for PPAs in LP is it possible to have a signing key? I have a slicehost and it seems I can't add a repo from the PPA, any suggestions are welcomed22:16
beunohubuntu, sign uploaded packages?22:17
geserhubuntu: PPAs are currently unsigned22:17
kikohubuntu, geser: not yet, but work in progress.22:17
hubuntuI'm trying to test the iFolder/Simias software, and I wanted to use the repos. In my own machine it's cool, but it seems that the Ubuntu 8.04 from SliceHost is requiring me to add a key for every added repo, which is the reason of my problems22:18
hubuntui'll just go dpkg -i for the moment22:19
hubuntuthanks ;)22:19
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Rhamphoryncusis there any sort of "launchpad health" page somewhere, showing known problems with the site?23:37
NCommanderRhamphoryncus, what problem are you havining?23:45
RhamphoryncusNCommander: timeouts trying to load https://code.launchpad.net/~rhamph/python-safethread/trunk/+merge/73023:45
RhamphoryncusThe rest of the site was a bit sluggish too.. but it seems not to be enough to cause timeouts, so maybe it is just my stuff23:46
NCommanderRhamphoryncus, it popped up an error code,  is that what you get?23:47
Rhamphoryncusyup23:47
Rhamphoryncuscreating the merge timed out too, but retrying said it already went through23:48
mwhudsonRhamphoryncus: did you get an oops id?23:53
RhamphoryncusOOPS-956C384123:54
ubottuhttps://devpad.canonical.com/~jamesh/oops.cgi/956C384123:54
mwhudsonRhamphoryncus: does that merge have lots and lots of umerged revisions?23:58
Rhamphoryncusmwhudson: probably.  The target branch is actually a rename of the original, repushed23:59
mwhudsonhm23:59
Rhamphoryncus(and I've since done another commit)23:59
* mwhudson pokes thumper 23:59
* thumper ducks23:59
* thumper looks23:59
RhamphoryncusI thought merging via the website would just document it as an old branch, not actually merge it :)23:59

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