[01:10] <Milky> i am using ubuntu intrepid alpha 3 with compiz.  i can enable compiz fine, but all i can get is the 'normal' effects.  if i change the effects level to 'extra' or if i try to change the settings using ccsm, my changes take no effect at all.  I know that intrepid is still in alpha so this problem might go away eventually, but i have never had the problem before in hardy and i am just wondering if anyone has ever had this problem
[01:11] <Milky> also, i did not originally have this problem with alpha 2
[01:16] <Fallenou> hi
[01:17] <Fallenou> i just upgraded form Hardy Heron to Intrepid and now my keymap is messed up , what's wrong ?
[01:17] <Fallenou> when i press "alt gr" it does "Enter", my up key takes a screenshot and so on
[01:17] <Fallenou> is that bug well known ?
[01:47] <pwnguin> is there a doc on the keymap?
[01:48] <shellback> hi all
[01:54] <emma> Does anyone know when we might get ext4 ?
[01:55] <pwnguin> right after you build it
[01:55] <pwnguin> judging from my communication with the kernel team
[01:55] <emma> Okies let me get crackin
[01:56] <pwnguin> to be fair, it's really not considered stable by the author
[01:56] <emma> I see.
[01:56] <emma> It just seems interesting.
[01:56] <emma> I heard it will have time stamping to the nano second.
[01:56] <pwnguin> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kernel-team/2008-August/002829.html
[01:56] <crdlb> 'interesting' is not an adjective you want describing your filesystem
[01:56] <pwnguin> sure it is
[01:57] <cycom> how do I hold a package back when I upgrade to intrepid?
[01:58] <crdlb> it should be interesting back when it was new
[01:58] <cycom> I don't want it to upgrade Xorg because FGLRX doesn't work with the new Xorg.
[01:58] <crdlb> by the time you start using it, it should be boring and reliable
[01:58] <emma> are file systems made with the physical properties of the hardware in mind, or is the hardware made with file systems in mind?
[01:58] <pwnguin> crdlb: i find faster benchmarking interesting ;)
[01:58] <pwnguin> emma: probably both
[01:59] <pwnguin> but i know of several examples where filesystems are designed for the hardware
[01:59] <crdlb> I find data integrity useful :>
[01:59] <pwnguin> crdlb: sure, but theres no reason to stamp out passing interest in core components
[01:59] <emma> If it were not for bad data integrity we would all still be fish.
[02:00] <pwnguin> "thou shallt not use ubuntu 'dangerously'"
[02:00] <pwnguin> is dangerous
[02:02] <DanaG> ARgh, stupid broken gnome-session.
[02:02] <DanaG> And I am royally pissed off at nvidia now.
[02:03] <DanaG> Try this: start gdm, log in, switch to TTY immediately...... X will crash.
[02:03] <DanaG> And then it will steal focus when it relaunches.
[02:03] <DanaG> And then when you switch back to TTY, they're all permanently blank!
[02:12] <DanaG> Heh, apport sent me to this URL:
[02:12] <DanaG> [xpconnect wrapped nsISupports]
[02:12] <DanaG> That's the URL firefox tried to open, at least.
[03:10] <crimsun> DanaG: I presume you're referring to an 8.10-specific issue (WRT X.Org crashing), because I can't reproduce it in 8.04
[03:12] <DanaG> I think I've also had that in Hardy.
[03:12] <DanaG> Perhaps my tweaked xorg.conf is causing it.
[03:12] <DanaG> ... or some compiz-fusion plugin.
[03:13] <DanaG> The crashing isn't the biggest issue for me; the biggest one is the killing of the consoles.
[03:42] <scorch__> an1 upgraded to 8.10 yet?
[04:10] <bazhang> scorch__, have you read the topic? not advisable unless you are willing to deal with possible 'total system failure'
[04:26] <IdleOne> scorch__, I have but I don't advise unless you are ok with total system failure
[05:24] <DanaG> what the heck?  I try to follow an apport link, and Firefox opens this:
[05:24] <DanaG> [xpconnect wrapped nsISupports]
[05:24] <DanaG> That's the actual URL it tries to load!
[05:26] <DanaG> ... so, now I can't report bugs on anything through apport!
[05:41] <DanaG> Grr, broken console.
[05:42] <DanaG> Great, now one of my folders consistently crashes QuodLibet.
[05:43] <DanaG> ... and I can't file an automated bug report, because "[xpconnect wrapped nsISupports]" (the actual, verbatim URL that shows up in the Firefox address bar) is totally broken.
[05:50] <DanaG> aararararrargh.
[06:00] <DanaG> Heh, another funny thing: new windows start out showing random bits of my corrupt consoles.
[06:02] <DanaG> Odd, downgrading gnome-session fixed quodlibet, too.
[06:22] <scorch__> what is the new install doing
[06:22] <scorch__> to be a total system failure
[06:24] <DanaG> Well, for me... the current repo version of gnome-session is broken, for some reason.
[06:26] <scorch__> repo?
[06:27] <DanaG> repository.
[06:27] <DanaG> i.e. the current packaged version.
[06:27] <scorch__> ah tru
[06:27] <scorch__> wierd,l;.. i am upgradeing now
[06:27] <scorch__> well see what happens i guess
[06:40] <cypherdelic> So my medibuntu bug with libmp3lame0 arrived ubuntu, avidemux is broken, can anyone agree???
[06:41] <RAOF> cypherdelic: EPARSE.  What is it that you're actually saying?
[06:42] <cypherdelic> my current updates include avidemux
[06:42] <cypherdelic> that is not posssible because of libmp3lame0 not installable
[06:43] <cypherdelic> as weill as libaccodec51 from medibuntu
[06:44] <RAOF> Well, that'd be a problem with medibuntu, which isn't an official Ubuntu repository, which means you need to take it up with them.
[06:44] <cypherdelic> https://bugs.launchpad.net/medibuntu/+bug/257043
[06:44] <cypherdelic> noo dude it is libmp3lame0 from ubuntu
[06:44] <cypherdelic> is it not clear for you?
[06:44] <cypherdelic> than search for the package
[06:44] <cypherdelic> and try to install
[06:45] <cypherdelic> libmp3lame
[06:45] <cypherdelic> and please tell me if it works for you?
[06:45] <Hobbsee> cypherdelic: works here.
[06:45] <RAOF> libmp3lame0 is totally installable.
[06:45] <RAOF> It's only depend is libc6.
[06:46] <cypherdelic> hmm
[06:46]  * RAOF again sings the "blame medibuntu" song.
[06:47] <RAOF> Well, you can't really blame them for not tracking Intrepid, I guess.
[06:47] <cypherdelic> ok thanks that was what i want :)
[06:52] <cypherdelic> can i blame my of adding medibuntu repo and hit ugrade?
[06:52] <cypherdelic> me
[06:53] <cypherdelic> im idling now the day use highlight i watch it later
[10:19] <wers> why is that, the New Human theme of my user account and of my root account look different?
[10:47] <s0u][ight> hi guys
[10:48] <s0u][ight> is the final release of intrepid going to use a patched driver for the iwl4965
[10:49] <RAOF> Quite possibly, but whether or not the specific patch you're thinking of is applied is a different matter.
[10:50] <RAOF> Your question is probably "will $MY_BUG be fixed by release", right?
[10:50] <s0u][ight> patched for the aircrack suite
[10:50] <s0u][ight> so the possibility to inject and the mac80211 core to be patched to perform fragmentation attacks
[10:51] <s0u][ight> the second patch is not only for the iwl4965 but all mac80211 drivers
[10:51] <RAOF> And why would one want to do that?
[10:53] <s0u][ight> well that will save aircrack-ng suite users who will use intrepid to do less work
[10:53] <s0u][ight> and i thought doing the hard work for the end users was a part of the ubuntu idea
[10:54] <RAOF> No, I mean "what does aircrack-ng do"?
[10:55] <s0u][ight> ow it is a suite with several tools to do wireless networking testing
[10:55] <Ng> it hilights my irc client ;p
[10:55] <RAOF> Obviously, the way to advocate a patch be applied is to file a bug against the kernel with the patch and justification why the patch should be applied.
[10:56] <s0u][ight> RAOF: i dont understand that sentence... damn i still have language limitations
[10:56] <RAOF> s0u][ight: Ah, sorry.
[10:56] <RAOF> s0u][ight: The way to suggest that a patch be applied to the kernel is to file a bug against the kernel.
[10:57] <RAOF> You should attach the patch to the bug, and also explain why the patch should be applied - why do we want this patch?
[10:57] <s0u][ight> brb
[10:57] <RAOF> If the patch isn't applied upstream then it's a good idea to also state _why_ it hasn't been applied upstream, and why those reasons don't apply to Ubuntu.
[10:59] <s0u][ight> hmmm in fact now im thinking that if the patch is directly applied by the compat-wireless there would be less distro specific discussions right?
[11:15] <RAOF> s0u][ight: So, the mac80211 core is going to come from the kernel; if the patch were applied to the kernel.org kernel, that'd be good; all distros would get the benefit.
[11:16] <RAOF> s0u][ight: That's ultimately the right way to go; we generally want to have as few patches as possible applied.
[11:17] <s0u][ight> ok going to see what i can do
[11:17] <s0u][ight> maybe it is allready in a list for the next kernel release :D
[11:20] <s0u][ight> RAOF: where can i find kernel developers?
[11:20] <s0u][ight> i mean on irc
[11:20] <RAOF> I don't know.  You can find the Ubuntu kernel maintainers in #ubuntu-kernel.
[11:21] <s0u][ight> ok tnx
[11:57] <s0u][ight> hi again
[12:39] <bazhang> !find eee
[12:39] <bazhang> !info libieee1284-3
[12:40] <bazhang> !info eeepc-acpi-scripts
[12:40] <bazhang> !find eeepc
[16:56] <cmdrpinksock> so yah...   everyone else have the same problem with the 8.10 upgrade?  can not start x server, internal error....
[16:57] <pwnguin> actually, no
[16:57] <cmdrpinksock> so it worked fine for you?
[16:58] <pwnguin> "fine" is subjective
[16:58] <pwnguin> it didnt crash
[16:58] <pwnguin> cmdrpinksock: by chance, can you get an xorg log?
[16:58] <cmdrpinksock> my upgrade did not crash...... i rebotted after the upgrade then it came
[16:58] <cmdrpinksock> up fine
[16:58] <cmdrpinksock> then reebooted again then fail
[16:58] <cmdrpinksock> no
[16:59] <cmdrpinksock> I can not get to that file now...
[16:59] <cmdrpinksock> it gives me a regular login
[16:59] <pwnguin> gdm?
[16:59] <cmdrpinksock> when i try to log in it says file system read only
[17:00] <cmdrpinksock> then give me the loging promot agian
[17:00] <pwnguin> are you booting 2.6.26 by chance?
[17:00] <cmdrpinksock> yeha
[17:00] <cmdrpinksock> -5
[17:01] <cmdrpinksock> when i boot it says to fix the internal error and restart gdm then falls to the regular "UNix" login
[17:01] <pwnguin> ok
[17:02] <cmdrpinksock> try to login then it says mail: ************/ / /  (something): file system read only
[17:02] <pwnguin> there's some stuff we can do from ther
[17:02] <pwnguin> dmesg
[17:02] <pwnguin> should still work
[17:02] <cmdrpinksock> then gives me my login again
[17:02] <cmdrpinksock> its recursive
[17:02] <pwnguin> ouch
[17:03] <cmdrpinksock> yeah
[17:03] <cmdrpinksock> i think i am screwed
[17:03] <cmdrpinksock> going to wait for the oct iso and reinstall i think
[17:03] <pwnguin> that might be one way
[17:03] <pwnguin> get a live cd
[17:03] <pwnguin> mount the F
[17:03] <pwnguin> fs
[17:04] <cmdrpinksock> ok
[17:04] <pwnguin> and grab xorg.conf and xorg logs
[17:04] <cmdrpinksock> ok
[17:05] <pwnguin> there's also some kernel logs that would be interesting
[17:05] <cmdrpinksock> has anyone else had this problem that you know of?
[17:05] <pwnguin> but afaik, 2.6.26 isn't supposed to be the default in intrepid
[17:05] <pwnguin> maybe i misread something
[17:06] <cmdrpinksock> yeah its 2.6.26-5
[17:07] <cmdrpinksock> you said the LiveCd and not the Alternate right??
[17:07] <cmdrpinksock> do you know if 8.04 iso is for DVD or CD
[17:08] <pwnguin> either works, but you might find the liveCD easier
[17:08] <pwnguin> good question
[17:08] <pwnguin> im reading that alpha4 might not have a .iso
[17:08] <pwnguin> for cd
[17:13] <johninlex> hello all
[17:55] <gnumm> doyourecommand any special version of virtualbox for ubuntu 8.10?
[18:04] <zajca> Hi, i have problem with II. i can't connect to internet, i can't add my static IP adress to nm-connetction-manager. when i use manual configuration, OK button go to inactive and i can't confirm configuration.
[18:05] <zajca> in terminal i have this"**(nm-configuration-editor:7172): warning**:Invalid setting IPv4 settings:addresses"
[18:28]  * Ng waves to lamalex ;)
[18:28] <lamalex> haha hi Ng
[18:46] <zAo^> Who can help with some PulseAudio troubles? I'm on Ibex Server. Thanks
[18:47] <hwilde> !pulse > zAo^
[18:48] <zAo^> thnx, but I tried that one :)
[18:48] <hwilde> so whats your problem no sound at all?
[18:49] <zAo^> Yeah, cannot even start the daemon without errors
[18:49] <zAo^> Starts with:
[18:49] <zAo^> W: ltdl-bind-now.c: Failed to find original dlopen loader.
[18:49] <zAo^> W: main.c: setrlimit(RLIMIT_NICE, (31, 31)) failed: Operation not permitted
[18:49] <zAo^> W: main.c: setrlimit(RLIMIT_RTPRIO, (9, 9)) failed: Operation not permitted
[18:49] <hwilde> are you super user
[18:49] <zAo^> root or normal: it makes no differences
[18:50] <hwilde> what version
[18:51] <zAo^> pulseaudio 0.9.10
[18:52] <hwilde> "This bug was fixed in the package pulseaudio - 0.9.10-2ubuntu2"
[18:52] <hwilde> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=866965
[18:52] <hwilde> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/242966
[18:53] <hwilde> "This bug was fixed in the package alsa-utils - 1.0.16-1ubuntu3"
[18:54] <zAo^> I'm on 0.9.10-2ubuntu3 and 1.0.16-1ubuntu3 :S
[19:08] <zAo^> thanks anyway hwilde
[19:08] <hwilde> post to those bugs on the forum
[19:08] <hwilde> then subscribe and see if you get an update
[19:08] <hwilde> it's dead in here today
[19:09] <hwilde> or for kicks you could ask in #alsa
[21:17] <emma> Hey guys, is there a medibuntu repo for Intrepid yet?
[21:18] <burhan> has the visual theme been finalized?
[21:22] <jpds> !medibunty
[21:23] <jpds> emma: They usually do the packages after the release.
[21:23] <emma> cool, is is possible to use the medibuntu hardy repo to install w32codecs on Intrepid?
[21:24] <emma> For that matter I think i can just use the Debian repo if it's a one time thing, shouldn't hurt. I think.
[21:25] <PolitikerALT> Hello everyone - does have problems with gdm or kdm not launching automatically?
[21:25] <jpds> emma: Dunno really..
[21:25] <emma> I'll do it and see what happens :)
[22:06] <askand> Hi, how do I get rid of the problem that I can not play flash and other sounds at the same time? I was told something about asound from intrepid or something, anyone knows?
[22:18] <mahfiaz> is there any new on nvidia for xserver-1.5 and geforce4?
[22:19] <JontheEchidna> Gotta wait until nvidia updates their drivers
[22:19] <JontheEchidna> which they haven't yet
[22:19] <mahfiaz> JontheEchidna, hope they will soon :)
[22:19]  * JontheEchidna is sad too :(
[22:20] <JontheEchidna> yeah, I miss desktop effects
[22:20] <JontheEchidna> and opengl in general
[22:20] <JontheEchidna> well, hardware accelerated opengl ;-)
[22:25] <mahfiaz> wait, there is nv project also, I am on vesa right now :)
[22:25] <mahfiaz> stupid me :)
[22:26] <mahfiaz> btw, I was quite surprised, that vesa is almost bearable, no movies nice, but desktop ok
[23:01] <emma> jpds -- seems to pretty much work.
[23:01] <jpds> emma: Good to hear :)
[23:01] <emma> jpds - I just found a .deb package on the debian sites, downloaded it, and dpkg -i on it.  Seems to be working in kubuntu intrepid, as I have amarok working now. :)
[23:02] <jpds> :)
[23:47] <cskmax> What's the proper sources.list line for Intrepid? Is it #deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid main restricted universe multiverse?
[23:47] <cskmax> (sans the # of course)
[23:47] <RAOF> That'll be one possibility, yes.
[23:48] <cskmax> Thanks
[23:49] <cskmax> downloading from that mirror is painfully slow at the moment and I wanted to make sure it wasn't a config problem on my end.
[23:50] <RAOF> You could always try another mirror.
[23:50] <RAOF> a.u.c is always slow.
[23:52] <cskmax> I'd love to. Where can I find a list of intrepid mirrors? Searching didn't turn up anything immediately relevant.
[23:55] <cskmax> I guess "apt-mirror" should do the trick.