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Milkyi am using ubuntu intrepid alpha 3 with compiz.  i can enable compiz fine, but all i can get is the 'normal' effects.  if i change the effects level to 'extra' or if i try to change the settings using ccsm, my changes take no effect at all.  I know that intrepid is still in alpha so this problem might go away eventually, but i have never had the problem before in hardy and i am just wondering if anyone has ever had this problem01:10
Milkyalso, i did not originally have this problem with alpha 201:11
Fallenouhi01:16
Fallenoui just upgraded form Hardy Heron to Intrepid and now my keymap is messed up , what's wrong ?01:17
Fallenouwhen i press "alt gr" it does "Enter", my up key takes a screenshot and so on01:17
Fallenouis that bug well known ?01:17
pwnguinis there a doc on the keymap?01:47
shellbackhi all01:48
emmaDoes anyone know when we might get ext4 ?01:54
pwnguinright after you build it01:55
pwnguinjudging from my communication with the kernel team01:55
emmaOkies let me get crackin01:55
pwnguinto be fair, it's really not considered stable by the author01:56
emmaI see.01:56
emmaIt just seems interesting.01:56
emmaI heard it will have time stamping to the nano second.01:56
pwnguinhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kernel-team/2008-August/002829.html01:56
crdlb'interesting' is not an adjective you want describing your filesystem01:56
pwnguinsure it is01:56
cycomhow do I hold a package back when I upgrade to intrepid?01:57
crdlbit should be interesting back when it was new01:58
cycomI don't want it to upgrade Xorg because FGLRX doesn't work with the new Xorg.01:58
crdlbby the time you start using it, it should be boring and reliable01:58
emmaare file systems made with the physical properties of the hardware in mind, or is the hardware made with file systems in mind?01:58
pwnguincrdlb: i find faster benchmarking interesting ;)01:58
pwnguinemma: probably both01:58
pwnguinbut i know of several examples where filesystems are designed for the hardware01:59
crdlbI find data integrity useful :>01:59
pwnguincrdlb: sure, but theres no reason to stamp out passing interest in core components01:59
emmaIf it were not for bad data integrity we would all still be fish.01:59
pwnguin"thou shallt not use ubuntu 'dangerously'"02:00
pwnguinis dangerous02:00
DanaGARgh, stupid broken gnome-session.02:02
DanaGAnd I am royally pissed off at nvidia now.02:02
DanaGTry this: start gdm, log in, switch to TTY immediately...... X will crash.02:03
DanaGAnd then it will steal focus when it relaunches.02:03
DanaGAnd then when you switch back to TTY, they're all permanently blank!02:03
DanaGHeh, apport sent me to this URL:02:12
DanaG[xpconnect wrapped nsISupports]02:12
DanaGThat's the URL firefox tried to open, at least.02:12
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crimsunDanaG: I presume you're referring to an 8.10-specific issue (WRT X.Org crashing), because I can't reproduce it in 8.0403:10
DanaGI think I've also had that in Hardy.03:12
DanaGPerhaps my tweaked xorg.conf is causing it.03:12
DanaG... or some compiz-fusion plugin.03:12
DanaGThe crashing isn't the biggest issue for me; the biggest one is the killing of the consoles.03:13
scorch__an1 upgraded to 8.10 yet?03:42
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bazhangscorch__, have you read the topic? not advisable unless you are willing to deal with possible 'total system failure'04:10
IdleOnescorch__, I have but I don't advise unless you are ok with total system failure04:26
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DanaGwhat the heck?  I try to follow an apport link, and Firefox opens this:05:24
DanaG[xpconnect wrapped nsISupports]05:24
DanaGThat's the actual URL it tries to load!05:24
DanaG... so, now I can't report bugs on anything through apport!05:26
DanaGGrr, broken console.05:41
DanaGGreat, now one of my folders consistently crashes QuodLibet.05:42
DanaG... and I can't file an automated bug report, because "[xpconnect wrapped nsISupports]" (the actual, verbatim URL that shows up in the Firefox address bar) is totally broken.05:43
DanaGaararararrargh.05:50
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DanaGHeh, another funny thing: new windows start out showing random bits of my corrupt consoles.06:00
DanaGOdd, downgrading gnome-session fixed quodlibet, too.06:02
scorch__what is the new install doing06:22
scorch__to be a total system failure06:22
DanaGWell, for me... the current repo version of gnome-session is broken, for some reason.06:24
scorch__repo?06:26
DanaGrepository.06:27
DanaGi.e. the current packaged version.06:27
scorch__ah tru06:27
scorch__wierd,l;.. i am upgradeing now06:27
scorch__well see what happens i guess06:27
cypherdelicSo my medibuntu bug with libmp3lame0 arrived ubuntu, avidemux is broken, can anyone agree???06:40
RAOFcypherdelic: EPARSE.  What is it that you're actually saying?06:41
cypherdelicmy current updates include avidemux06:42
cypherdelicthat is not posssible because of libmp3lame0 not installable06:42
cypherdelicas weill as libaccodec51 from medibuntu06:43
RAOFWell, that'd be a problem with medibuntu, which isn't an official Ubuntu repository, which means you need to take it up with them.06:44
cypherdelichttps://bugs.launchpad.net/medibuntu/+bug/25704306:44
cypherdelicnoo dude it is libmp3lame0 from ubuntu06:44
cypherdelicis it not clear for you?06:44
cypherdelicthan search for the package06:44
cypherdelicand try to install06:44
cypherdeliclibmp3lame06:45
cypherdelicand please tell me if it works for you?06:45
Hobbseecypherdelic: works here.06:45
RAOFlibmp3lame0 is totally installable.06:45
RAOFIt's only depend is libc6.06:45
cypherdelichmm06:46
* RAOF again sings the "blame medibuntu" song.06:46
RAOFWell, you can't really blame them for not tracking Intrepid, I guess.06:47
cypherdelicok thanks that was what i want :)06:47
cypherdeliccan i blame my of adding medibuntu repo and hit ugrade?06:52
cypherdelicme06:52
cypherdelicim idling now the day use highlight i watch it later06:53
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werswhy is that, the New Human theme of my user account and of my root account look different?10:19
s0u][ighthi guys10:47
s0u][ightis the final release of intrepid going to use a patched driver for the iwl496510:48
RAOFQuite possibly, but whether or not the specific patch you're thinking of is applied is a different matter.10:49
RAOFYour question is probably "will $MY_BUG be fixed by release", right?10:50
s0u][ightpatched for the aircrack suite10:50
s0u][ightso the possibility to inject and the mac80211 core to be patched to perform fragmentation attacks10:50
s0u][ightthe second patch is not only for the iwl4965 but all mac80211 drivers10:51
RAOFAnd why would one want to do that?10:51
s0u][ightwell that will save aircrack-ng suite users who will use intrepid to do less work10:53
s0u][ightand i thought doing the hard work for the end users was a part of the ubuntu idea10:53
RAOFNo, I mean "what does aircrack-ng do"?10:54
s0u][ightow it is a suite with several tools to do wireless networking testing10:55
Ngit hilights my irc client ;p10:55
RAOFObviously, the way to advocate a patch be applied is to file a bug against the kernel with the patch and justification why the patch should be applied.10:55
s0u][ightRAOF: i dont understand that sentence... damn i still have language limitations10:56
RAOFs0u][ight: Ah, sorry.10:56
RAOFs0u][ight: The way to suggest that a patch be applied to the kernel is to file a bug against the kernel.10:56
RAOFYou should attach the patch to the bug, and also explain why the patch should be applied - why do we want this patch?10:57
s0u][ightbrb10:57
RAOFIf the patch isn't applied upstream then it's a good idea to also state _why_ it hasn't been applied upstream, and why those reasons don't apply to Ubuntu.10:57
s0u][ighthmmm in fact now im thinking that if the patch is directly applied by the compat-wireless there would be less distro specific discussions right?10:59
RAOFs0u][ight: So, the mac80211 core is going to come from the kernel; if the patch were applied to the kernel.org kernel, that'd be good; all distros would get the benefit.11:15
RAOFs0u][ight: That's ultimately the right way to go; we generally want to have as few patches as possible applied.11:16
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s0u][ightok going to see what i can do11:17
s0u][ightmaybe it is allready in a list for the next kernel release :D11:17
s0u][ightRAOF: where can i find kernel developers?11:20
s0u][ighti mean on irc11:20
RAOFI don't know.  You can find the Ubuntu kernel maintainers in #ubuntu-kernel.11:20
s0u][ightok tnx11:21
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s0u][ighthi again11:57
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bazhang!find eee12:39
ubottuFound: libieee1284-3, libieee1284-3-dev, eeepc-acpi-scripts, eeepc-acpi-source, grub-ieee1275 (and 1 others)12:39
bazhang!info libieee1284-312:39
ubottulibieee1284-3 (source: libieee1284): cross-platform library for parallel port access. In component main, is optional. Version 0.2.11-4 (intrepid), package size 28 kB, installed size 104 kB12:39
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bazhang!info eeepc-acpi-scripts12:40
ubottueeepc-acpi-scripts (source: eeepc-acpi-scripts): Scripts to support suspend and hotkeys on the Asus Eee PC laptop. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.0.4 (intrepid), package size 5 kB, installed size 104 kB12:40
bazhang!find eeepc12:40
ubottuFound: eeepc-acpi-scripts, eeepc-acpi-source12:40
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cmdrpinksockso yah...   everyone else have the same problem with the 8.10 upgrade?  can not start x server, internal error....16:56
pwnguinactually, no16:57
cmdrpinksockso it worked fine for you?16:57
pwnguin"fine" is subjective16:58
pwnguinit didnt crash16:58
pwnguincmdrpinksock: by chance, can you get an xorg log?16:58
cmdrpinksockmy upgrade did not crash...... i rebotted after the upgrade then it came16:58
cmdrpinksockup fine16:58
cmdrpinksockthen reebooted again then fail16:58
cmdrpinksockno16:58
cmdrpinksockI can not get to that file now...16:59
cmdrpinksockit gives me a regular login16:59
pwnguingdm?16:59
cmdrpinksockwhen i try to log in it says file system read only16:59
cmdrpinksockthen give me the loging promot agian17:00
pwnguinare you booting 2.6.26 by chance?17:00
cmdrpinksockyeha17:00
cmdrpinksock-517:00
cmdrpinksockwhen i boot it says to fix the internal error and restart gdm then falls to the regular "UNix" login17:01
pwnguinok17:01
cmdrpinksocktry to login then it says mail: ************/ / /  (something): file system read only17:02
pwnguinthere's some stuff we can do from ther17:02
pwnguindmesg17:02
pwnguinshould still work17:02
cmdrpinksockthen gives me my login again17:02
cmdrpinksockits recursive17:02
pwnguinouch17:02
cmdrpinksockyeah17:03
cmdrpinksocki think i am screwed17:03
cmdrpinksockgoing to wait for the oct iso and reinstall i think17:03
pwnguinthat might be one way17:03
pwnguinget a live cd17:03
pwnguinmount the F17:03
pwnguinfs17:03
cmdrpinksockok17:04
pwnguinand grab xorg.conf and xorg logs17:04
cmdrpinksockok17:04
pwnguinthere's also some kernel logs that would be interesting17:05
cmdrpinksockhas anyone else had this problem that you know of?17:05
pwnguinbut afaik, 2.6.26 isn't supposed to be the default in intrepid17:05
pwnguinmaybe i misread something17:05
cmdrpinksockyeah its 2.6.26-517:06
cmdrpinksockyou said the LiveCd and not the Alternate right??17:07
cmdrpinksockdo you know if 8.04 iso is for DVD or CD17:07
pwnguineither works, but you might find the liveCD easier17:08
pwnguingood question17:08
pwnguinim reading that alpha4 might not have a .iso17:08
pwnguinfor cd17:08
johninlexhello all17:13
gnummdoyourecommand any special version of virtualbox for ubuntu 8.10?17:55
zajcaHi, i have problem with II. i can't connect to internet, i can't add my static IP adress to nm-connetction-manager. when i use manual configuration, OK button go to inactive and i can't confirm configuration.18:04
zajcain terminal i have this"**(nm-configuration-editor:7172): warning**:Invalid setting IPv4 settings:addresses"18:05
* Ng waves to lamalex ;)18:28
lamalexhaha hi Ng18:28
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zAo^Who can help with some PulseAudio troubles? I'm on Ibex Server. Thanks18:46
hwilde!pulse > zAo^18:47
ubottuzAo^, please see my private message18:47
zAo^thnx, but I tried that one :)18:48
hwildeso whats your problem no sound at all?18:48
zAo^Yeah, cannot even start the daemon without errors18:49
zAo^Starts with:18:49
zAo^W: ltdl-bind-now.c: Failed to find original dlopen loader.18:49
zAo^W: main.c: setrlimit(RLIMIT_NICE, (31, 31)) failed: Operation not permitted18:49
zAo^W: main.c: setrlimit(RLIMIT_RTPRIO, (9, 9)) failed: Operation not permitted18:49
hwildeare you super user18:49
zAo^root or normal: it makes no differences18:49
hwildewhat version18:50
zAo^pulseaudio 0.9.1018:51
hwilde"This bug was fixed in the package pulseaudio - 0.9.10-2ubuntu2"18:52
hwildehttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=86696518:52
hwildehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/24296618:52
ubottuLaunchpad bug 242966 in pulseaudio "snd_pcsp can take precedence of soundcards" [High,Fix released]18:52
hwilde"This bug was fixed in the package alsa-utils - 1.0.16-1ubuntu3"18:53
zAo^I'm on 0.9.10-2ubuntu3 and 1.0.16-1ubuntu3 :S18:54
zAo^thanks anyway hwilde19:08
hwildepost to those bugs on the forum19:08
hwildethen subscribe and see if you get an update19:08
hwildeit's dead in here today19:08
hwildeor for kicks you could ask in #alsa19:09
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emmaHey guys, is there a medibuntu repo for Intrepid yet?21:17
burhanhas the visual theme been finalized?21:18
jpds!medibunty21:22
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about medibunty21:22
jpdsemma: They usually do the packages after the release.21:23
emmacool, is is possible to use the medibuntu hardy repo to install w32codecs on Intrepid?21:23
emmaFor that matter I think i can just use the Debian repo if it's a one time thing, shouldn't hurt. I think.21:24
PolitikerALTHello everyone - does have problems with gdm or kdm not launching automatically?21:25
jpdsemma: Dunno really..21:25
emmaI'll do it and see what happens :)21:25
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askandHi, how do I get rid of the problem that I can not play flash and other sounds at the same time? I was told something about asound from intrepid or something, anyone knows?22:06
mahfiazis there any new on nvidia for xserver-1.5 and geforce4?22:18
JontheEchidnaGotta wait until nvidia updates their drivers22:19
JontheEchidnawhich they haven't yet22:19
mahfiazJontheEchidna, hope they will soon :)22:19
* JontheEchidna is sad too :(22:19
JontheEchidnayeah, I miss desktop effects22:20
JontheEchidnaand opengl in general22:20
JontheEchidnawell, hardware accelerated opengl ;-)22:20
mahfiazwait, there is nv project also, I am on vesa right now :)22:25
mahfiazstupid me :)22:25
mahfiazbtw, I was quite surprised, that vesa is almost bearable, no movies nice, but desktop ok22:26
emmajpds -- seems to pretty much work.23:01
jpdsemma: Good to hear :)23:01
emmajpds - I just found a .deb package on the debian sites, downloaded it, and dpkg -i on it.  Seems to be working in kubuntu intrepid, as I have amarok working now. :)23:01
jpds:)23:02
cskmaxWhat's the proper sources.list line for Intrepid? Is it #deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid main restricted universe multiverse?23:47
cskmax(sans the # of course)23:47
RAOFThat'll be one possibility, yes.23:47
cskmaxThanks23:48
cskmaxdownloading from that mirror is painfully slow at the moment and I wanted to make sure it wasn't a config problem on my end.23:49
RAOFYou could always try another mirror.23:50
RAOFa.u.c is always slow.23:50
cskmaxI'd love to. Where can I find a list of intrepid mirrors? Searching didn't turn up anything immediately relevant.23:52
cskmaxI guess "apt-mirror" should do the trick.23:55

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