[01:10] i am using ubuntu intrepid alpha 3 with compiz. i can enable compiz fine, but all i can get is the 'normal' effects. if i change the effects level to 'extra' or if i try to change the settings using ccsm, my changes take no effect at all. I know that intrepid is still in alpha so this problem might go away eventually, but i have never had the problem before in hardy and i am just wondering if anyone has ever had this problem [01:11] also, i did not originally have this problem with alpha 2 [01:16] hi [01:17] i just upgraded form Hardy Heron to Intrepid and now my keymap is messed up , what's wrong ? [01:17] when i press "alt gr" it does "Enter", my up key takes a screenshot and so on [01:17] is that bug well known ? [01:47] is there a doc on the keymap? [01:48] hi all [01:54] Does anyone know when we might get ext4 ? [01:55] right after you build it [01:55] judging from my communication with the kernel team [01:55] Okies let me get crackin [01:56] to be fair, it's really not considered stable by the author [01:56] I see. [01:56] It just seems interesting. [01:56] I heard it will have time stamping to the nano second. [01:56] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kernel-team/2008-August/002829.html [01:56] 'interesting' is not an adjective you want describing your filesystem [01:56] sure it is [01:57] how do I hold a package back when I upgrade to intrepid? [01:58] it should be interesting back when it was new [01:58] I don't want it to upgrade Xorg because FGLRX doesn't work with the new Xorg. [01:58] by the time you start using it, it should be boring and reliable [01:58] are file systems made with the physical properties of the hardware in mind, or is the hardware made with file systems in mind? [01:58] crdlb: i find faster benchmarking interesting ;) [01:58] emma: probably both [01:59] but i know of several examples where filesystems are designed for the hardware [01:59] I find data integrity useful :> [01:59] crdlb: sure, but theres no reason to stamp out passing interest in core components [01:59] If it were not for bad data integrity we would all still be fish. [02:00] "thou shallt not use ubuntu 'dangerously'" [02:00] is dangerous [02:02] ARgh, stupid broken gnome-session. [02:02] And I am royally pissed off at nvidia now. [02:03] Try this: start gdm, log in, switch to TTY immediately...... X will crash. [02:03] And then it will steal focus when it relaunches. [02:03] And then when you switch back to TTY, they're all permanently blank! [02:12] Heh, apport sent me to this URL: [02:12] [xpconnect wrapped nsISupports] [02:12] That's the URL firefox tried to open, at least. === RAOF_ is now known as RAOF [03:10] DanaG: I presume you're referring to an 8.10-specific issue (WRT X.Org crashing), because I can't reproduce it in 8.04 [03:12] I think I've also had that in Hardy. [03:12] Perhaps my tweaked xorg.conf is causing it. [03:12] ... or some compiz-fusion plugin. [03:13] The crashing isn't the biggest issue for me; the biggest one is the killing of the consoles. [03:42] an1 upgraded to 8.10 yet? === philwyett_ is now known as philwyett [04:10] scorch__, have you read the topic? not advisable unless you are willing to deal with possible 'total system failure' [04:26] scorch__, I have but I don't advise unless you are ok with total system failure === androw is now known as wijaya1 [05:24] what the heck? I try to follow an apport link, and Firefox opens this: [05:24] [xpconnect wrapped nsISupports] [05:24] That's the actual URL it tries to load! [05:26] ... so, now I can't report bugs on anything through apport! [05:41] Grr, broken console. [05:42] Great, now one of my folders consistently crashes QuodLibet. [05:43] ... and I can't file an automated bug report, because "[xpconnect wrapped nsISupports]" (the actual, verbatim URL that shows up in the Firefox address bar) is totally broken. [05:50] aararararrargh. === catweazle_ is now known as catweazle [06:00] Heh, another funny thing: new windows start out showing random bits of my corrupt consoles. [06:02] Odd, downgrading gnome-session fixed quodlibet, too. [06:22] what is the new install doing [06:22] to be a total system failure [06:24] Well, for me... the current repo version of gnome-session is broken, for some reason. [06:26] repo? [06:27] repository. [06:27] i.e. the current packaged version. [06:27] ah tru [06:27] wierd,l;.. i am upgradeing now [06:27] well see what happens i guess [06:40] So my medibuntu bug with libmp3lame0 arrived ubuntu, avidemux is broken, can anyone agree??? [06:41] cypherdelic: EPARSE. What is it that you're actually saying? [06:42] my current updates include avidemux [06:42] that is not posssible because of libmp3lame0 not installable [06:43] as weill as libaccodec51 from medibuntu [06:44] Well, that'd be a problem with medibuntu, which isn't an official Ubuntu repository, which means you need to take it up with them. [06:44] https://bugs.launchpad.net/medibuntu/+bug/257043 [06:44] noo dude it is libmp3lame0 from ubuntu [06:44] is it not clear for you? [06:44] than search for the package [06:44] and try to install [06:45] libmp3lame [06:45] and please tell me if it works for you? [06:45] cypherdelic: works here. [06:45] libmp3lame0 is totally installable. [06:45] It's only depend is libc6. [06:46] hmm [06:46] * RAOF again sings the "blame medibuntu" song. [06:47] Well, you can't really blame them for not tracking Intrepid, I guess. [06:47] ok thanks that was what i want :) [06:52] can i blame my of adding medibuntu repo and hit ugrade? [06:52] me [06:53] im idling now the day use highlight i watch it later === LSD|Ninj2 is now known as LSD|Ninja [10:19] why is that, the New Human theme of my user account and of my root account look different? [10:47] hi guys [10:48] is the final release of intrepid going to use a patched driver for the iwl4965 [10:49] Quite possibly, but whether or not the specific patch you're thinking of is applied is a different matter. [10:50] Your question is probably "will $MY_BUG be fixed by release", right? [10:50] patched for the aircrack suite [10:50] so the possibility to inject and the mac80211 core to be patched to perform fragmentation attacks [10:51] the second patch is not only for the iwl4965 but all mac80211 drivers [10:51] And why would one want to do that? [10:53] well that will save aircrack-ng suite users who will use intrepid to do less work [10:53] and i thought doing the hard work for the end users was a part of the ubuntu idea [10:54] No, I mean "what does aircrack-ng do"? [10:55] ow it is a suite with several tools to do wireless networking testing [10:55] it hilights my irc client ;p [10:55] Obviously, the way to advocate a patch be applied is to file a bug against the kernel with the patch and justification why the patch should be applied. [10:56] RAOF: i dont understand that sentence... damn i still have language limitations [10:56] s0u][ight: Ah, sorry. [10:56] s0u][ight: The way to suggest that a patch be applied to the kernel is to file a bug against the kernel. [10:57] You should attach the patch to the bug, and also explain why the patch should be applied - why do we want this patch? [10:57] brb [10:57] If the patch isn't applied upstream then it's a good idea to also state _why_ it hasn't been applied upstream, and why those reasons don't apply to Ubuntu. [10:59] hmmm in fact now im thinking that if the patch is directly applied by the compat-wireless there would be less distro specific discussions right? [11:15] s0u][ight: So, the mac80211 core is going to come from the kernel; if the patch were applied to the kernel.org kernel, that'd be good; all distros would get the benefit. [11:16] s0u][ight: That's ultimately the right way to go; we generally want to have as few patches as possible applied. === jscinoz_ is now known as jscinoz [11:17] ok going to see what i can do [11:17] maybe it is allready in a list for the next kernel release :D [11:20] RAOF: where can i find kernel developers? [11:20] i mean on irc [11:20] I don't know. You can find the Ubuntu kernel maintainers in #ubuntu-kernel. [11:21] ok tnx === pen_ is now known as pen [11:57] hi again === terminx_ is now known as TerminX [12:39] !find eee [12:39] Found: libieee1284-3, libieee1284-3-dev, eeepc-acpi-scripts, eeepc-acpi-source, grub-ieee1275 (and 1 others) [12:39] !info libieee1284-3 [12:39] libieee1284-3 (source: libieee1284): cross-platform library for parallel port access. In component main, is optional. Version 0.2.11-4 (intrepid), package size 28 kB, installed size 104 kB === catweazle_ is now known as catweazle [12:40] !info eeepc-acpi-scripts [12:40] eeepc-acpi-scripts (source: eeepc-acpi-scripts): Scripts to support suspend and hotkeys on the Asus Eee PC laptop. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.0.4 (intrepid), package size 5 kB, installed size 104 kB [12:40] !find eeepc [12:40] Found: eeepc-acpi-scripts, eeepc-acpi-source === TheImp is now known as TheInfinity === marko__ is now known as marko-_- === catweazle_ is now known as catweazle [16:56] so yah... everyone else have the same problem with the 8.10 upgrade? can not start x server, internal error.... [16:57] actually, no [16:57] so it worked fine for you? [16:58] "fine" is subjective [16:58] it didnt crash [16:58] cmdrpinksock: by chance, can you get an xorg log? [16:58] my upgrade did not crash...... i rebotted after the upgrade then it came [16:58] up fine [16:58] then reebooted again then fail [16:58] no [16:59] I can not get to that file now... [16:59] it gives me a regular login [16:59] gdm? [16:59] when i try to log in it says file system read only [17:00] then give me the loging promot agian [17:00] are you booting 2.6.26 by chance? [17:00] yeha [17:00] -5 [17:01] when i boot it says to fix the internal error and restart gdm then falls to the regular "UNix" login [17:01] ok [17:02] try to login then it says mail: ************/ / / (something): file system read only [17:02] there's some stuff we can do from ther [17:02] dmesg [17:02] should still work [17:02] then gives me my login again [17:02] its recursive [17:02] ouch [17:03] yeah [17:03] i think i am screwed [17:03] going to wait for the oct iso and reinstall i think [17:03] that might be one way [17:03] get a live cd [17:03] mount the F [17:03] fs [17:04] ok [17:04] and grab xorg.conf and xorg logs [17:04] ok [17:05] there's also some kernel logs that would be interesting [17:05] has anyone else had this problem that you know of? [17:05] but afaik, 2.6.26 isn't supposed to be the default in intrepid [17:05] maybe i misread something [17:06] yeah its 2.6.26-5 [17:07] you said the LiveCd and not the Alternate right?? [17:07] do you know if 8.04 iso is for DVD or CD [17:08] either works, but you might find the liveCD easier [17:08] good question [17:08] im reading that alpha4 might not have a .iso [17:08] for cd [17:13] hello all [17:55] doyourecommand any special version of virtualbox for ubuntu 8.10? [18:04] Hi, i have problem with II. i can't connect to internet, i can't add my static IP adress to nm-connetction-manager. when i use manual configuration, OK button go to inactive and i can't confirm configuration. [18:05] in terminal i have this"**(nm-configuration-editor:7172): warning**:Invalid setting IPv4 settings:addresses" [18:28] * Ng waves to lamalex ;) [18:28] haha hi Ng === zAo_ is now known as zAo^ [18:46] Who can help with some PulseAudio troubles? I'm on Ibex Server. Thanks [18:47] !pulse > zAo^ [18:47] zAo^, please see my private message [18:48] thnx, but I tried that one :) [18:48] so whats your problem no sound at all? [18:49] Yeah, cannot even start the daemon without errors [18:49] Starts with: [18:49] W: ltdl-bind-now.c: Failed to find original dlopen loader. [18:49] W: main.c: setrlimit(RLIMIT_NICE, (31, 31)) failed: Operation not permitted [18:49] W: main.c: setrlimit(RLIMIT_RTPRIO, (9, 9)) failed: Operation not permitted [18:49] are you super user [18:49] root or normal: it makes no differences [18:50] what version [18:51] pulseaudio 0.9.10 [18:52] "This bug was fixed in the package pulseaudio - 0.9.10-2ubuntu2" [18:52] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=866965 [18:52] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/242966 [18:52] Launchpad bug 242966 in pulseaudio "snd_pcsp can take precedence of soundcards" [High,Fix released] [18:53] "This bug was fixed in the package alsa-utils - 1.0.16-1ubuntu3" [18:54] I'm on 0.9.10-2ubuntu3 and 1.0.16-1ubuntu3 :S [19:08] thanks anyway hwilde [19:08] post to those bugs on the forum [19:08] then subscribe and see if you get an update [19:08] it's dead in here today [19:09] or for kicks you could ask in #alsa === TheImp is now known as TheInfinity [21:17] Hey guys, is there a medibuntu repo for Intrepid yet? [21:18] has the visual theme been finalized? [21:22] !medibunty [21:22] Sorry, I don't know anything about medibunty [21:23] emma: They usually do the packages after the release. [21:23] cool, is is possible to use the medibuntu hardy repo to install w32codecs on Intrepid? [21:24] For that matter I think i can just use the Debian repo if it's a one time thing, shouldn't hurt. I think. [21:25] Hello everyone - does have problems with gdm or kdm not launching automatically? [21:25] emma: Dunno really.. [21:25] I'll do it and see what happens :) === emma_ is now known as emma [22:06] Hi, how do I get rid of the problem that I can not play flash and other sounds at the same time? I was told something about asound from intrepid or something, anyone knows? [22:18] is there any new on nvidia for xserver-1.5 and geforce4? [22:19] Gotta wait until nvidia updates their drivers [22:19] which they haven't yet [22:19] JontheEchidna, hope they will soon :) [22:19] * JontheEchidna is sad too :( [22:20] yeah, I miss desktop effects [22:20] and opengl in general [22:20] well, hardware accelerated opengl ;-) [22:25] wait, there is nv project also, I am on vesa right now :) [22:25] stupid me :) [22:26] btw, I was quite surprised, that vesa is almost bearable, no movies nice, but desktop ok [23:01] jpds -- seems to pretty much work. [23:01] emma: Good to hear :) [23:01] jpds - I just found a .deb package on the debian sites, downloaded it, and dpkg -i on it. Seems to be working in kubuntu intrepid, as I have amarok working now. :) [23:02] :) [23:47] What's the proper sources.list line for Intrepid? Is it #deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid main restricted universe multiverse? [23:47] (sans the # of course) [23:47] That'll be one possibility, yes. [23:48] Thanks [23:49] downloading from that mirror is painfully slow at the moment and I wanted to make sure it wasn't a config problem on my end. [23:50] You could always try another mirror. [23:50] a.u.c is always slow. [23:52] I'd love to. Where can I find a list of intrepid mirrors? Searching didn't turn up anything immediately relevant. [23:55] I guess "apt-mirror" should do the trick.