mefisto__I've seen that00:02
mefisto__I've never used publisher, don't know which is most similar, scribus or openoffice draw00:03
ActionParsnipmefisto__: why do you want it if you dont use it?00:03
chris_window$ $uck$00:03
morticiyes we know......00:04
Alex135did you really need to tel us that? hehe00:04
morticilol Alex13500:04
ActionParsnipchris_: it has its advantages00:04
morticianyone familiar with w3m?00:04
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about w3m00:04
ActionParsnip!info w3m00:04
ubottuw3m (source: w3m): WWW browsable pager with excellent tables/frames support. In component main, is standard. Version 0.5.1-5.1ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 1064 kB, installed size 1828 kB00:04
morticiyes yes i know :)00:05
morticii was just wondering how do i get it to display images :D00:05
Alex135i have never heard of it....00:05
morticii run it with w3m -v -cookie image <url> but fails to load images....00:05
ActionParsnipmortici: http://osdir.com/ml/emacs.w3m/2002-06/msg00056.html00:05
chris_juventus fc fuck00:06
mefisto__ActionParsnip: I don't want publisher. I want to recommend a publisher user to switch to scribus or openoffice draw, but don't know which is most like publisher00:06
morticiActionParsnip: thank you good sir00:06
ActionParsnipmefisto__: as you can see there are many. id let them try which they like and choose from there00:06
ActionParsnipmortici: np man00:07
Alex135mortici: no need to be so polite, we arn't that strict here, hehe00:07
ActionParsnipmefisto__: its a personal choice which you prfer00:08
ActionParsnipmefisto__: ms publisher might run through wine / cedega / crossover00:08
=== pascalFR is now known as PascalFR
Alex135ActionParsnip: MS office crossover might do it00:10
mefisto__NO to publisher!!!00:10
vilhelmhello! I have an NTFS disk that I have music on but everytime I login and out my music players says that it cant find my mp3 files:( any solutions ?00:10
ActionParsnipAlex135: if it runs through wine its cheaper00:10
ActionParsnipvilhelm: have you mounted it?00:11
vilhelmI'm new to linux so i dont really know but i can always see the disk00:11
mefisto__I want something as close to publisher as possible, an easy transition00:11
ActionParsnipvilhelm: ok run sudo fdisk -l in konsole00:12
vilhelmActionParsnip ok00:12
ActionParsnipwhat is the name of the partition00:12
ActionParsnipshould be something like /dev/sdb00:12
ActionParsnipor similar00:12
Alex135vilhelm: a nother option is that your music player doesn't know where to look, what are you useing, Amarok?00:13
vilhelmyes i am using amarok00:13
Alex135vilhelm: were you able to listen to your music before on it?00:14
vilhelmi am still able to listen to the music after i have entered the disk00:14
Alex135but it doesn't show up automatically on amarok?00:15
mefisto__vilhelm: this will tell you what the partition is called: sudo fdisk -l | grep NTFS00:15
mefisto__vilhelm: cat /etc/fstab00:15
morticistill no luck with images00:15
morticibut meh00:15
mefisto__is there a line with /dev/sda6 in it?00:16
morticiill be satisfied with irssi for now ;D00:16
vilhelmmefisto yes00:16
mefisto__vilhelm: what is that line?00:17
Alex135vilhelm: is it that you want amarok to list your music automaticly? because if you can already listen to it and know how to get into the disk then its just a configuration in amarok that needs to happen.00:17
ActionParsnipvilhelm: id put the disk ni fstab so its automounted00:19
vilhelmAlex135 i can listen to the music easily on the disk but my amarok usually does not recognize the file locations directly after login in to Kubuntu00:19
ActionParsnipvilhelm: can you paste you /etc/fstab please00:19
vilhelmAction yes i thought about that00:19
ActionParsnip!paste vilhelm00:19
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about paste vilhelm00:19
ActionParsnip!paste | vilhelm00:19
ubottuvilhelm: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)00:19
emmaWhich kubuntu application can open this stream -- http://lightningstream.surfernetwork.com/Media/player/scripts/player.aspx?call=ktrs00:20
Alex135you guys, he just wants amarok to automatically load his music... he just needs to set where the drive is located00:20
Alex135emma: kaffien00:20
emmaIs that like the kubuntu version of totem?00:21
emmaAlex135: were you able to open it?00:21
ActionParsnipAlex135: if the drive was automounted he could point he amarok to the disk to add to his library#00:21
Alex135emma: ya i just did it00:21
Alex135actionparsnip: i dont think he knows how to do that....00:21
emmaYou hear drums and them saying 'KTRS' ?00:21
Alex135emma: well i heard something about a skate park00:21
vilhelmwell then i shall automount it00:21
emmaAlex135: are you still listening?00:22
Alex135emma: i will be in a sec00:22
emmaThere was nothing in there about a skate park.00:22
Alex135emma: music.... drums and a guitar00:22
vilhelmnow i have automounted it00:22
Alex135emma: oh wait...00:23
emmaDid you hear them?00:23
Alex135emma: ya its the KTRS thing00:23
emmaOkay thanks.00:23
ActionParsnipAlex135: thats why we're here00:23
Alex135ActionParsnip: well im just saying i think your going about it the hard way, he already knows how to mount the drive i think00:24
Alex135emma: i also have my programs customized with codecs though00:24
Alex135emma so im not really 100% sure if it will work perfectly for you00:24
ActionParsnipAlex135: if its automouned it'll be consistant every time00:24
emmaAlex135: I see. I'm going to try installing kaffine00:24
emmakaffien that is.00:25
vilhelmit's automounted already00:25
vilhelmguess it works now :)00:25
vilhelmthx anyway lads :)00:25
emmaAlex135: I have the w32codecs but Amarok did not open it.00:25
Alex135ActionParsnip: he just double clicks on the mp3's then re-selects them from the play list when he wants to play it, he never hade a library of music that amarok had made00:25
Alex135emma: erm.... ok you have mplayer installed?00:25
mefisto__emma: amarok is not very good at playing streams00:25
ActionParsnipAlex135: sounds like he has a library of music :)00:25
emmaNo I don't have mplayer installed yet either. I guess I'll get that too.00:26
Alex135ActionParsnip: but amarok isn't configured to know where it is, thats what he is wanting to find out how to make it work....00:26
mefisto__emma: you should have kaffeine already if you have installed kubuntu00:26
Alex135emma: install that and ill explain how to make the changes you need to make it all run00:26
Alex135emma: is that a Real Media stream?00:27
emmamefisto__: well I have Kubuntu Intrepid actually.00:27
mefisto__Alex135: aspx stream00:27
emmaAlex - I think it's aspx00:27
Alex135emma: do you have the medibuntu repos installed?00:27
emmaAlex135, no there are none for Intrepid yet, but I'm not here to make a fuss about that. I installed the w32codecs by hand.00:28
Alex135eema: what do you mean there are non, no repos? or no codecs00:28
emmaThere is no medibuntu repo for Intrepid that I'm aware of.00:29
emmaI don't know if it is okay to add the medibuntu hardy repo to the sources.list in Intrepid or not.00:29
Alex1351 sec00:30
Alex135you can try it... if all else fails you can alwase remove it later00:31
ubottuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness from KMenu -> System -> Desktop Effects - further help in #compiz-fusion00:31
mefisto__emma: it seems there is medibuntu for intrepid: http://packages.medibuntu.org/dists/00:31
tsuna27how do i change my login screen00:32
tsuna27and does it matter that i am using compiz00:32
tsuna27where can i find that00:33
Alex135emma: alright ill tell you how to add the repos for the intrapid version in00:33
mefisto__tsuna27: kde3?00:34
Alex135just give me a sec to figure it out myself :P00:34
=== mike is now known as pulaski
mefisto__emma: add this to /etc/apt/sources.list : deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ intrepid free non-free00:35
=== vilhelm is now known as ville88
Alex135mefisto__: and i just did the work to figure it out... :P00:36
mefisto__sorry Alex135 :)00:36
pulaskihello Does anyone know how to install the gasp package?00:36
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about gas[00:37
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about gasp00:37
ActionParsnip!info gasp00:37
ubottuPackage gasp does not exist in hardy00:37
Alex135emma: you still there?00:37
ActionParsnippulaski: what is gasp?00:38
pulaskiubuntulog:  hmmm I just had to reinstall hardy and I was abled to get the gasp-package via apt-get.  Has it be deprecated or something?00:39
ActionParsnippulaski: ive never heard of it00:39
ActionParsnippulaski: whats it do?00:40
pulaskiActionParsnip: it is the Graphics API for students of python00:41
pulaskiActionParsnip: https://launchpad.net/gasp00:42
ActionParsnippulaski: try sudo apt-get install python-gasp00:44
Alex135_ActionParsnip: that wont work00:44
Alex135_ActionParsnip: there is no package related to gasp in the ubuntu repos00:45
ActionParsnipAlex135_: http://dc.ubuntu-us.org/projects/gasp/00:45
ActionParsnipAlex135_: you may need to add a repo00:45
ActionParsnipsudo apt-get install python-gasp sudo apt-get install python-gasp-lessons00:46
Alex135_ActionParsnip: ah, thats why.... nvm...00:46
ActionParsniphere are the repos00:46
ActionParsnipamazing what a little wesearching churns up :D00:46
=== Alex135_ is now known as Alex135
NutzebahnHello, when I try to install kde4 in Synaptic, I get this: http://pastebin.com/d676fdaaa Help?00:48
pulaskiActionParsnip: I found I need to add a repository, check it out: http://openbookproject.net/thinkCSpy/app_a.xhtml#auto100:49
ActionParsnipNutzebahn: id run sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get -f install; sudo apt-get update00:50
emmaAlex135: I just got back. I was trying to see about a medibuntu repo for Intrepid. I think there is not yet a line to put into your sources.list00:50
ActionParsnippulaski: yep that looks fine00:50
Alex135emma: 1 sec and ill be back with the info you need00:50
ActionParsnippulaski: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.lst00:50
emmacool thanks.00:50
ActionParsnippulaski: paste the repo line at the bottom of the file. add a carridge return at the end of the line00:50
Alex135emma: ok, 1 sec00:51
Alex135emma: ok type: sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list00:52
mefisto__kdesu, not sudo00:52
Alex135fine, kdesu kate /etc/apt.sources.list.d/medibuntu.list00:52
ActionParsnipAlex135: kdesu is for gui apps like kate, sudo is for cli pps only00:53
Alex135now... past this postpin contents into it. http://paste.ubuntu.com/37277/00:53
ActionParsnipsudo doesnt set up the gui environment properly00:53
emmaAlex135: shouldn't that period after apt, be a / ?00:54
pulaskiActionParsnip: I did that and tried to install again and ap-get still returned "Couldn't find package python-gasp,00:54
Alex135ActionParsnip: ya, i have had inconsistent results with it but a lot of the time i can get it to work with sudo and00:54
Alex135emma, yes00:54
emmaokay let me type it. one second.00:54
ActionParsnippulaski: did you add the repo?00:55
emmaAlex135: okay what shall we put into this file?00:55
pulaskiActionParsnip: Yes I added the repo, let me read some more.  ubottu told me its not available on hardy heron00:55
ActionParsnippulaski: you may have to compile dude00:55
Alex135emma: go here and copy it into there   http://paste.ubuntu.com/37277/plain/00:56
pulaskiActionParsnip: This is strange, I got it on my previous intall of hardy, Let me lookaround some more or like you said find the source file.00:57
Alex135emma: did you do that?00:57
emmyHey Alex135 this is me on the computer I'm actually working on here.00:59
emmyAlex135: could you repost that paste once more?00:59
Alex135emmy: ah ok, 1 sec00:59
Alex135emmy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/37277/plain/00:59
Alex135emmy: ready?01:01
emmyyes saved now.01:02
Alex135ok, now run this: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install medibuntu-keyring && sudo apt-get update01:02
mefisto__intrepid must be really slow01:03
pulaskiActionParsnip: Got it.  I had to reload the updated sources.list, Thanks for your help!01:04
_2well i have managed to move the problem form su to the package manager.  dpkg is hung up. with this loop now. http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d308f139501:04
emmyAlex135: did it.01:04
Alex135emmy: sudo apt-get install libdvdcss201:04
joshuajtldoes anyone use kickoff? looking for a latest package...01:04
Alex135emmy: are you on i386 or amd6401:04
ActionParsnippulaski: its cool man, always run sudo apt-get update after updating sources.lst01:04
joshuajtltried using alien on the suse package but it failed unpacking the rpm01:04
emmyAlex135: did it.01:05
votaguzhi all, anybody know how i can mute the "Bip" when i do a error in xterm or Konsole ?01:05
Alex135emmy: are you on i386 or amd6401:05
pulaskiActionParsnip: cya01:05
ActionParsnipvotaguz: http://osdir.com/ml/linux.debian.user.kde/2002-10/msg00249.html01:06
draikHello all01:06
_2votaguz i used to know.  there is a command ....  let me look01:06
Alex135emmy: ok, run whats in this paste  http://paste.ubuntu.com/37280/plain/01:06
votaguzok _2 Thanks ... :)01:06
emmyI'm having another strange problem right now, which is the reason that it seemd I was going slow...01:06
draikIs anyone here having issues loading Firefox 3.0.1? It takes about 3 minutes or so to load up and then freezes before finishing the final load of my homepage; google.com01:06
emmywhen I click on that link it launches openoffice.org01:07
Alex135emmy: probably a bug with intrepid01:07
emmyI'll file a bug then.01:07
emmyjust one moment while I paste it to the browser.01:07
_2votaguz within xorg ?       xset -b01:07
joshuajtlanyone?? kickoff?01:07
votaguznice man _2 THANKS!!! :D01:08
_2votaguz this is the one i was looking for   but you don't want it.      setterm -blength 0     for console tty's01:09
emmyAlex135:  Did it01:09
_2votaguz welcome01:09
Alex135emmy: now do sudo apt-get install w32codecs01:09
emmyI already have those.01:09
Alex135emmy: did it update them?01:09
_2votaguz note +b turns that back on.01:10
Alex135emmy: when we added the repo01:10
votaguzok _2 :)01:10
emmywill it hurt anything if I go ahead and do install w32codecs if I already have them?01:10
Alex135emmy: no01:10
_2votaguz also konsole has it's own setting in the preferances01:10
emmyokay i'll do it then.01:10
_2votaguz if you use konsole/yakuake01:10
Alex135emmy: if you already have packages it will either try and update them, or if they are up to date just tell you that they are up to date and stop the process01:11
emmyi installed them previoiusly by finding the package on debian site, and then doing dpkg -i w32codecs_blahblah.deb01:11
Alex135emmy: k01:11
Alex135emmy: what did it say01:11
Alex135emmy: adept01:11
emmyw32codecs is already the newest version.01:12
emmy0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 28 not upgraded.01:12
Alex135emmy: ok, now do: sudo apt-get install mplayer gmplayer01:12
emmywhat's that going to do?01:12
Alex135emmy: ya just do it, were gonna mess with some configurations with xien01:12
emmyWill this still be Kubuntu?01:13
Alex135oh wait01:13
Alex135dont do that01:13
Alex135emmy: dont do it... i forgot that you dont have both.01:13
Alex135emmy: ya, do Kmplayer01:13
emmyI have just Kubuntu.01:13
Alex135emmy: sudo apt-get install mplayer kmplayer01:13
ActionParsnipAlex135: mplayer is a dependancy of kmplayer01:14
* _2 tolerates # setterm -bfreq 440 ;setterm -blength 30001:14
emmyI already had mpayer anyway. Not a problem.01:14
Alex135ActionParsnip: ya i know, small problem on my part01:14
Alex135emmy: ok, 1 sec01:14
mefisto__joshuajtl: kickoff is the suse menu, right?01:15
NutzebahnIs Ubuntu 8.0.4 much better than 7.10?01:15
ubottuUsually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.01:16
Alex135emmy: dang, i was gonna configure xine with gmplayer because it can configure it more but i forgot your not in gnome01:16
emmyNo problem :)01:16
Alex135emmy: try doing your stream again in kaffien and see if it works01:16
emmymaybe with all these dependencies from medibuntu something can play it now.01:16
Alex135emmy: if all else fails i have another method01:17
emmycould you do me a favor and paste the link to the stream?01:17
Alex135emmy: erm... ill try, 1 sec01:17
emmy(see im on a different computer here)01:17
emmythan the one I sent the link on.01:17
NutzebahnIs it better to use Synaptic or the terminal to install kde 4?01:17
GithzeraiNutzebahn: anyway01:17
Alex135nutzbehan: i think it would be better to not install KDE 4 either way01:18
emmyThanks. Xine is playing it.01:18
Alex135emmy: really?01:18
Alex135emmy: cool01:18
Alex135emmy: i didn't think it would work without the last step01:18
emmyYeah I just needed the link to click on.01:18
Alex135emmy: looks like your codecs were messed up01:18
emmycould be. Not sure how.01:18
Alex135emmy: or they wern't the ones needed to play the stream so it added what was needed01:19
emmymay have been missing some more modern dll01:19
Alex135emmy: possibly01:19
Alex135emmy: anyway, i would have set it up so you could watch rmvb files but without gmplayer i dont know how to do it :P01:19
Alex135emmy: anyway, glad i could help with your stream01:19
Alex135emmy: i am not sure what the other custom effects are with the rmvb files so it could have made other things play, which was why i was setting it up as a precaution01:20
emmyYes thanks very much for the help. How did you know what to add to the medibuntu.list ?01:20
Alex135emmy: ill send you the URLS from what i put together01:20
Alex135https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu               http://packages.medibuntu.org/dists/intrepid/            http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/hardy.list01:21
Alex135emmy: i had to customize it x.x was a bit of a pain01:21
Alex135emmy: but i used the combination of those 3 to figure it out01:21
Alex135emmy: im glad sometimes that i dont develop ubuntu and just help out in the IRC support section, hehe01:22
emmycool. I saw the first of those links and found it was not so simple as replacing hardy with intrepid.01:22
Alex135emmy: ya01:22
emmyi imagine eventually or ultimatlely it will be.01:22
mefisto__umm, you did replace hardy with intrepid01:23
Alex135emmy: well it was actually quite similer, look at these 2 links01:23
Alex135look at the small difference01:23
Alex135you will understand what i did01:24
emmymefisto__: i'm talking about the first link, and replacing the word hardy with the word intrepid in the instructions for getting the medibuntu repo.01:24
Alex135mefisto__: he is talking about htis link    http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/hardy.list01:24
Alex135the link itself01:24
Alex135not the contents01:24
Alex135emmy: you see what i did?01:25
emmyyep that did it01:26
emmysorry it's hard to click on all these links quickly with this laptop and some of them being launched by openoffice.org01:27
Alex135emmy: funny thing was i never knew how it all worked untill after i helped you get it working, so i guess we both learned something, hehe01:27
Alex135emmy: hehe01:27
Alex135emmy: btw, why did you decide to you intrepid?01:28
emmyso that I can find problems and report them to knowledgeable people while there's still time to fix them.01:28
Alex135emmy: ah01:28
emmybut as it turns out, it is much better than Hardy or my gnome ubuntu desktop ever was.01:29
emmywith kubuntu you have the option of kde4 but that's very very very buggy. Kubuntu Intrepid comes with kde4 and it's all just very beautiful.01:29
Alex135emmy: erm, they just recently came out with KDE4.1 so thats why its a bit better... kde4 is a bit more polished01:30
mefisto__emmy: are you using konversation?01:30
joshuajtlmefisto__: yes suse menu01:31
mefisto__joshuajtl: have you tried tastymenu? it's quite similar01:31
emmyYes I'm using conversation right now.01:32
mefisto__emmy: unless konversation has changed in intrepid, you can choose which browser will open links, so it won't try opening them in openoffice01:33
joshuajtlmefisto__: just installed it, it's supported so I'll just stick with it01:34
mefisto__joshuajtl: more configureable than kickoff too01:35
joshuajtlmefisto__:  it looks better as far as useability, but not looks01:35
=== giuseppe is now known as Guest89207
=== Guest89207 is now known as jack24
joshuajtlwish i could show both recently used, and favourites01:37
mefisto__emmy: in konversation settings, behaviour, general, miscellaneous section, tick "use custom web browser" and put in konqueror '%u' or firefox '%u' or whichever browser you use01:37
emmymefisto__: ahh that might do it.01:39
morticiirssi for the win :D01:41
=== dustin is now known as Moose
=== Moose is now known as Moose1981
emmyi typically use irssi but i thought since i've just switched to Kubuntu, perhaps I can make myself acquainted with these varioius KDE apps.01:43
joshuajtlanyone know if its possible to have both favourittes and recently used apps in tastymenu?01:47
mefisto__joshuajtl: you mean both visible at the same time?01:48
joshuajtlmefisto__: yeah01:50
morticican some one do mortici: hi01:51
joshuajtlmortici: hi01:52
morticithank you01:52
mefisto__joshuajtl: don't think you can do that01:52
mefisto__joshuajtl: but you could edit the kmenu and put your favourite apps in the main "root" section (that is, not in a submenu)01:54
morticiHostname: SuperNova - OS: Linux 2.6.24-19-generic/i686 - CPU: 2 x Intel(R) Core(TM)2 (3200.024 MHz) - Processes: 131 - Uptime: 2h 8m - Load Average: 0.65 - Memory Usage: 305.04MB/2026.70MB (15.05%) - Disk Usage: 255.60GB/101.12GB (252.78%)01:54
joshuajtlahh ok thx01:56
emmythe kubuntu community seems to be kinder and more welcoming.01:56
=== hunter is now known as strixvarius
strixvariusSystem tray volume problem: I installed libsdl1.2debian-all which seemed to remove libsdl1.2debian-alsa, so I put alsa back but now my tray volume applet has disappeared. Any suggestions as to how I can easily recover default behavior?02:05
morticirun kmix02:07
strixvariusdamn that's exactly it. thanks! How can I get it to do that on startup again though?02:07
morticistrixvarius: if your in KDE 4.1 hit alt+f2 and type kmix02:07
morticiit will automatically do it :)02:07
morticibut you can verify by right clicking it02:07
strixvariusmortici, thanks!02:08
morticistrixvarius: your very welcome :D02:09
bobyada_When I launch ubuntu hardy it locks up and doesn't have title bars. I load terminal and do sudo compiz and that seems to fix it for that particular boot. So there is a problem with compiz.02:09
morticibobyada_: alt + f2 and then compiz --replace02:10
strixvariusbobyada_: It sounds like no WM is loading by default, maybe?02:10
morticiand emerald --replace02:10
morticimake sure both all of compiz and emerald are installed02:10
morticiand yes strixvarius no WM is loading :)02:11
strixvariusmortici: Do you have any experience with audio in VMware under Kubuntu? The guys in #vmware aren't very talkative and that's why I've been monkeying with my audio settings.02:12
morticistrixvarius: i actually use virtualbox02:12
morticistrixvarius: works out of the box for me :/02:12
kevin_hello all, I have a message "You have 1  broken package on your system! Use the "Broken" filter to locate it..... How do I use a broken filter, what should I do? can anyone help? thanks02:13
strixvariusmortici: Thanks - if their images are compatible I'll just switch over02:13
morticistrixvarius: .vdi02:13
morticiinstall and setup took me less than 45 mins to get everything working02:14
Efreakwhoa, thats a lot of people02:14
morticii wasn't part of the usbfs group so 15 mins were spent trying to figure out why my usb devices weren't working lol02:14
strixvariusmortici: Awesome, that's what I'll do then. Only worry is... where on earth do I have my Windows XP CD?!? ;)02:14
mortici:) i looked for mine too, and i stumbled across one on the this crazy thing called the internet :P02:15
Daisuke_Laptopcondoning piracy = bad02:15
morticiim not condoning it02:15
morticiim just saying02:15
Daisuke_Laptopjust saying that *if* you already have an oem license that isn't being used, you might be able to take a boat to a particular bay to get replacement media?02:16
morticii have 2 oem licenses02:17
Daisuke_Laptopright, so in that case you would be okay02:17
morticiquite, yes02:18
kevin_Does anyone know how to locate a broken package using a filter, I would really like some   help?02:18
Daisuke_Laptopjust verifying that we're both taking about a perfectly legal situation in which acquiring replacement media via a sudden deluge of water would be a legal and appropriate thing to do02:19
morticikevin_: why not use adept_manager and search for it?02:19
strixvariusHow can I find more information about what's wrong in Adept when it says "BREAK!!! (Install)"02:19
strixvariusAfter I try to install a package. "It would break other packages," but I don't know where to find out which ones or how I can fix it02:20
morticiDaisuke_Laptop: agreed02:20
morticistrixvarius: im not sure i ever came across that02:21
kevin_I have seen 'break other packages' and I usually ignore it, I cannot see how it has affected my system, so I ignore it and just carry on02:22
strixvariusmortici: It gives me that when I try to install virtualbox (from the meta package: virtualbox-ose-modules-generic)02:23
strixvariusmortici: maybe I'll just download it from the web and compile it02:23
morticistrixvarius: dl the closed source binary02:23
strixvariusmortici: cool thx02:23
morticistrixvarius: a single deb to install everything plus it has usb support02:23
internet_Siema ALL02:25
emmyis there any application like aport for reporting bugs on kubuntu02:26
internet_co ?02:26
emmymowisz polski?02:27
=== mark__ is now known as markus_uw
bob_anybody know how to get the GDM back after installing kde-desktop02:29
bob_is anyone out there?02:30
bob_I mus be alone02:30
morticibob_: lots of people here...02:31
bob_yeah I know02:31
bob_just lookin for a response02:31
morticibob_: have you GIS switch kdm to gdm kubuntu?02:31
Colonel_PanicI'm having a bit of trouble getting a USB external HDD to work02:31
Colonel_PanicIt's a 250 GB Seagate02:31
Colonel_Panicin a USB 2 enclosure02:32
Colonel_PanicKubuntu doesn't seem to see it02:32
morticibob_: Google Internet Search02:32
morticibetter yet try this02:32
morticisudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm02:32
dwidmannColonel_Panic: try a different USB port?02:32
bob_did u have it hooked up to a windows pc?02:32
Colonel_PanicI have02:32
Colonel_PanicI've tried the ports on the front and back02:32
bob_ok thanks02:32
bob_I will try02:32
Colonel_Panicwhat's more, my laptop dpesn't se it either02:32
morticibob_: your welcome02:33
Colonel_PanicIt's not formatted, afaik02:33
morticibob_: be sure to select gdm :P02:33
markus_uwi was gonna have him change his /etc/X11/default-display-manager file02:33
bob_did u try to hook it up to windows based pc?02:33
Colonel_PanicI'm running Hardy02:33
Colonel_PanicDon't have on atm02:33
bob_got it mrtici02:33
dwidmannColonel_Panic: okay, unplug it from the USB, plug it back in, and then pastebin the output of "cat /var/log/syslog | tail - 100"02:33
Colonel_Panicok one sec02:34
morticiColonel_Panic: what dwidmann said :)02:34
bob_mortici still there?02:34
morticibob_: quite yes02:34
bob_I have a wierd problem with trying ti type a the letter "t" in caps using the shift key02:35
bob_it only happens in gnome not in kde02:36
dwidmannColonel_Panic: did you forget the "-" on the tail command?02:36
Colonel_Panicone sec02:36
morticibob_: what happens?02:36
strixvariusok this is freaking me out: http://pastebin.com/d49a8a13b02:36
strixvariusI guess I should summarize (http://pastebin.com/d49a8a13b) can't add myself to a group02:36
bob_nothing and it doesnt matter what app I try to type in02:36
dwidmannat any rate, Colonel_Panic, pastebin the last 100 of the /var/log/dmesg also02:37
Colonel_Paniccat /var/log/syslog | tail - 10002:37
bob_any suggestions?02:38
markus_uwya, the dmesg is probably more useful02:38
Colonel_Panichere check this out: http://pastebin.com/m6e91bfff02:39
morticibob_: so you can type a capital T?02:39
morticiwhilst pressing SHIFT + T02:39
morticibut CAPS LOCK + t works fine?02:40
morticisounds like it might be a shortcut issue02:40
morticicheck your keyboard global shortcuts02:40
dwidmannah, there's the goods02:41
bob_too clear it up. Once again Shift+t nothing CAPS lock capital t02:41
Daisuke_Laptopthen your shift is bound to something else?02:42
bob_I checked the keyboard settings and binded keys but it all looks right02:42
Daisuke_Laptopnevermind then :\02:42
Colonel_Panicdid you guys see that?02:42
Colonel_Panicdwidmann: did you see that?02:43
dwidmannColonel_Panic: yews02:43
Colonel_PanicI don't quite understand what those log entries mean02:44
dwidmannColonel_Panic: what does "sudo parted /dev/sdb print" say? Does the device have a partition table to speak of or is the whole thing formatted with the file system02:44
bob_hey if I switch into gnome session can I bring this Konverstion with me?02:44
dwidmannColonel_Panic: I think they mean that it's picking it up as sdb02:44
Colonel_Panicfar as I know, it's not formatted at all02:44
dwidmannbob_: Probably not, you'll probably have to close it, and fire up a new konversation in your new session.02:45
faileasbob_: you might need to restart your irc client. konversation works in gnome, but i think switching sessions shuts down whatever is running02:45
Colonel_PanicDisk /dev/sdb: 160GB02:45
Colonel_PanicSector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B02:45
Colonel_PanicPartition Table: msdos02:45
dwidmannColonel_Panic: if it's not formatted at all, then you'll have to format it before you can do anything with it.02:45
markus_uwPanic: ok so its there02:45
markus_uwPanic: open gparted and format it with a file system as you desire02:46
bob_ok thanks02:46
Colonel_Panicso I can't mount it till it's been formatted. That makes sense02:46
Colonel_PanicHow can I do that?"02:46
Colonel_PanicI think I want to format it as either FAT32 or NTFS02:46
Colonel_Paniccan Kubuntu create NTFS partitions?02:46
markus_uwfat32 works a little nicer with linux, but has a max 4GB filesize02:47
dwidmannColonel_Panic: are you familiar with partitioning or do you need instruction? programs like qtparted, gparted, parted, fdisk, and cfdisk are all decent options02:47
dwidmannColonel_Panic: though, if it's meant to be used with windows, partitioning is a no-no.02:47
Colonel_PanicI've used gparted before02:47
dwidmannColonel_Panic: windows can't handle USB devices with partition tables and/or more than one partition02:47
Colonel_PanicI think I just want to create one big filesystem out of the whole 250GB02:48
Colonel_Panicor... wait no it's 160GB02:48
markus_uwPanic: do a 'sudo apt-get install qtparted' and then run it02:48
markus_uwits very similar to gparted02:48
markus_uwwill work a little nicer with kde-ness02:48
dwidmann!tab | markus_uw02:49
ubottumarkus_uw: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.02:49
Colonel_PanicGetting devices...02:49
Colonel_Panicok running qtparted as root now02:50
markus_uwcool, i never knew that02:51
markus_uwi did know the command line :p but not the irc02:51
Colonel_Panicso you're saying if I use FAT32 I can't make a partition bigger than 4GB?02:51
Colonel_Panicthat doesn't sound right...02:51
markus_uwColonel_Panic: no, just can't have a file bigger than 4 GB02:51
markus_uwso no giant dvd isos02:51
Colonel_Panicshoot, what to do?02:51
Colonel_PanicI might want to have big files02:52
Colonel_Panicbut I want this drive to be sharable with Windows boxen02:52
dwidmannColonel_Panic: files bigger than 4GiB? Really?02:52
markus_uwColonel_Panic: i've never really seen it as much of a problem02:52
Colonel_Panicwhat about a ripped DVD or something like that?02:52
Colonel_Panicthose are usually bigger than 4GB02:53
markus_uwColonel_Panic: just with like virtual drives for virtualbox or something02:53
markus_uwColonel_Panic: or dvd iso's02:53
dwidmannColonel_Panic: well, if it's compressed then it'd probably be okay, if it's just a dump of the VOB files those are all about 1GiB each02:53
Colonel_Panicsome might be bigger02:54
Colonel_Panicand then there's HD-DVD02:54
dwidmannColonel_Panic: only the ISO image would be super-huge02:54
Colonel_Panicaw what the hell this is juat a 160 GB drive02:54
Colonel_Panicif I want to store bigger filoes than that I can just get a bigger drive02:54
dwidmannColonel_Panic: that and if you were desperate you could probably find a program to split the files or something anyhow02:54
Colonel_PanicOK FAt it is02:54
Colonel_Panicor just use my internal drive02:55
markus_uwColonel_Panic: it very rarely has been a problem, and you can just rar it into parts or something anyways02:55
dwidmannbe back soon, my physical presence is required downstairs.02:55
Colonel_Panicit ought to have plenty of space after I move all the crap off it02:55
EfreakI had ubuntu installed, and after I installed kubuntu-desktop, i opened firefox under kde (same user as in gnome). Now the open tab looks exactly the same as the closed tabs, which means that if I have multiple tabs with the same name open, I don't know which one is open. Does anyone know how to fix this?02:55
Colonel_PanicFAT32 it is02:55
markus_uwColonel_Panic: sounds good :)02:55
=== hunter is now known as strixvarius
ville88anyone know a good site to learn konsole commands?02:56
Efreak...isnt konsole just the terminal?02:56
markus_uwgoogle 'bash commands'02:56
Efreakyeah, it is02:56
ville88markus ok :)02:56
strixvariusFirefox: I have all my app preferences set up in KDE/Konqueror.. so, for example, if I open a .torrent in Konqueror it opens with the right program. Is there a way to make FF3 just use Konq's default programs?02:57
Efreak'help' usually brings up a list of some of the commands02:57
Efreakidk, is there an 'always open with' in the 'open with' dialogue, like there is in windows?02:57
Colonel_Panicwow that was fast02:57
strixvariusEfreak, yes there is but I don't want to have to set that in FF and in Konq, i'd rather them get the same settings02:58
markus_uwColonel_Panic: done formatting already?02:58
Efreakoh, nm02:58
Efreaki misunderstood the q02:58
Colonel_Panicit says it is02:58
Colonel_Panicbut it didn't seem to take any time02:59
dwidmannColonel_Panic: XFS is crazy fast at formatting, it would have finished that in just a few seconds.02:59
markus_uwColonel_Panic: what he said02:59
Colonel_PanicI'm restart5ing qtparted02:59
markus_uwColonel_Panic: especially since it was empty to begin with02:59
Colonel_Panicit shows the drive as totally grey-ed out again03:00
Colonel_Panicapparently it didnt work03:00
=== Efreak is now known as Efreak|Beowulf
dwidmannColonel_Panic: try unplugging it, then plugging it back in, then "sudo mkdir /media/temp" "sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdb1 /media/temp"03:01
markus_uwColonel_Panic: hmm, did you tell it to commit?03:01
markus_uwColonel_Panic: (sometimes i've been known to miss a crucial step like that :p)03:02
markus_uwafter you made all the changes in the window?03:02
markus_uwshould be file -> commit03:02
Colonel_PanicI right-clicked the drive and a menu came up. I selected "Create" and a dialog came up. I selectyed FAT32, gave it a title, and clicked "OK"03:03
markus_uwdo that and file -> commit03:04
markus_uwand you should be good03:04
Colonel_Panicanother dialog came up with a progress bar that was already showing 100%03:04
Colonel_Panicthe graphic representing the drive then turned green with a little Windows logo in the corner03:05
Colonel_Panichold on, let me pastebin the console contents03:05
Efreak|Beowulfis there something like ctrl+d logout in konsole?03:06
ville88what was the command to see all partitions?03:07
Colonel_Panic\When I did that, it said, "All operations completed successfully" but: http://pastebin.com/m135be04603:11
markus_uwhmm... weird03:12
Colonel_PanicFor some reason, when I try to diaplay /media/ in D0lphin, nothing shows up. Lemme try Konqueror03:12
Reformer81I'm currently using this command ( http://paste.ubuntu.com/37305/ ) to convert videos.  However, I have several videos with different resolutions and would like to know how to convert a video into it's original resolution.  Anyone know?03:13
mrksbrdis there anyway to do a search for a PDF document?03:17
markus_uwColonel_Panic: can i see your dmesg now when you plug it in?03:18
Colonel_Panicok one sec03:18
Colonel_Panicoh hey, sda0, sda1 and sda2 aren't showing up in /media/03:18
madagascarI screwed up03:18
Colonel_Panicshold I be concerned about this?03:19
madagascari cant enter kubintu03:19
madagascari deleted my oxygen theme03:19
madagascarand now when i try to log in i get into a command line03:19
markus_uwColonel_Panic: there aren't other partitions other than the linux ones on sda, are there?03:19
madagascarhow can i get in and get back a gui03:20
mrksbrd is there anyway to do a search for a PDF document thru kmenu?03:20
Colonel_Panicmarkus_uw: no, just my active primary partition, my swap partition, and my /home partition03:21
markus_uwColonel_Panic: then that's fine, since theyre mounted as the / , /home and swap already03:22
markus_uwColonel_Panic: your sdb1 should be showing up there, though03:23
Colonel_Panicdid yo look at that pastebin yet?03:23
Colonel_PanicAll I see is sda3 and it says it's empty, 0 bytes03:23
d0wn__cd #ubuntu03:23
d0wn__can't believe i did that03:23
bob_mortici you here?03:23
Colonel_Panichowever, everything shows up fin if I look at /home03:24
Colonel_PanicI can't seem to play DVDs either03:24
markus_uwColonel_Panic: hmm, as far as the sda3 is concerned, its weird, but if its workign, i wouldnt worry03:25
bob_can someon help me with some basic IRC how to???03:25
markus_uwColonel_Panic: the dvd, just google search kubuntu 8.04 dvd playback and im sure there're some instructions03:25
Colonel_Panicany clues about this external drive?03:25
markus_uwColonel_Panic: i did it a while ago, just dont remember03:26
ville88Hello does anyone know a good ftp program?03:26
markus_uwColonel_Panic: i don't see any reference to it in the dmesg which is weird...03:26
markus_uwColonel_Panic: what do you see now if you start up qtparted again?03:27
mrksbrdbob: what did u need to know?03:28
bob_I closed the irc client and when I returned...03:28
bob_it said the the name was in use and to try another one03:29
Colonel_Panicok one sec03:29
madagascari lost my gui03:29
madagascarby accdently delteing the oxygen theme03:29
madagascarnow all i have is the command line03:29
bob_so how do I log off or close out that other session03:29
madagascarhow can i get back my gui from that command line03:30
mrksbrdbob: your nick is just hanging in limbo right now, it will time out after a bit......i believe you can send a kill command via nickserv03:31
mortici_bob_: si?03:31
bob_can u explain a little more this is the first time I have ever used IRC03:31
mrksbrdyea let me find the command....one sec03:32
bob_mortici thanks got my gdm back03:32
Colonel_Panicit shows up as a white block and says the filesystem is unknown03:32
mortici_bob_: your quite welcome03:33
Colonel_Panichey, how can I unmount all partitions?03:33
mrksbrduse the /msg NickServ ghost [nick] [password] command03:33
chipbuddyi have an old laptop that i want to get some form of linux on. the laptop will have no internet, and really all i want to do is program. what do i want?03:34
bob_I never set a password for bob_ nick????'03:34
markus_uwColonel_Panic: that's really weird03:35
Colonel_Panichey, how can I unmount all partitions?03:36
Colonel_Panicbefore committing changes to my external drive03:36
markus_uwColonel_Panic: the only one that should matter is the one ont he external drive03:36
Colonel_Panicyeah I figured as much, but at this point I'm graspoing at straws03:37
bob_also where do I enter that command03:37
markus_uwumount /dev/sdb103:37
markus_uwwith a sudo infront03:37
mrksbrddid u ever register your nick?03:37
markus_uwshould get rid of that03:37
bob_thats why I am confused03:38
markus_uwColonel_Panic: i might try nuking the mystery partition and remaking the fat 3203:38
bob_I just started IRC and it connected Iwas expecting to set it up03:38
mrksbrdyou can sign onto irc using any name u want unless it is already registered to someone else03:39
mortici_mortici: you slut03:39
mortici_give me my name back :(03:39
bob_but it didnt ask for anything03:39
bob_oh ok03:39
Colonel_Panicheh ok03:39
flaccid_bob_: in kubuntu, konversation irc client will connect you auto to freenode and this room03:39
bob_aaaahhhhh ok now I understand03:40
mrksbrdto register a nick ....sign on under nick u want .... /nickserv register [password]03:40
bob_where do I enter  ---  /nickserv register03:41
mrksbrdu can do it from channel03:41
flaccid_bob_: any tab03:41
robotgeekyou might need to type /msg nickserv register03:41
bob_just type that in the same space that I am typing now?03:42
mrksbrdyea ....sorry forgot msg03:42
ubottuInformation about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.03:42
mrksbrddo /msg nickserv register [password]03:42
Colonel_PanicOK I'm reformatting it as an ext3 partition03:43
=== jackson is now known as jackson_
markus_uwColonel_Panic: here's hoping this works, eh?03:43
Colonel_Panicyeah it seems to be working ok03:43
bob_ooohhhhh ok I got U have to excuse me I am stll wthdrawing from WinXP so some growing pains'03:44
markus_uwColonel_Panic: yay!03:44
mrksbrdnot a problem03:44
Colonel_Panicbut what would have caused would the FAT32 formatting operation to fail?03:44
markus_uwim not sure... and it didn't throw any errors, which is also rather odd03:44
Colonel_Panicit's a mystery wrapped in a conundrum wrapped in a piece of shit03:44
mrksbrd@ least u were using the better of the 2 microsoft products...........should try using vista if u really want a headache03:45
markus_uwhey, vista's not THAT bad03:45
mrksbrdflaccid u still there?03:45
Colonel_Panicdoes Vista have its own filesystem type?03:45
markus_uwlike it's better than oldschool windows was03:45
markus_uwi think it's a new version of ntfs03:45
mrksbrdI can't stand vista03:45
bob_I did for a short time I upgraded my03:45
Colonel_Panicqtparted is hanging...03:46
bob_laptop to Vista Premium and last week almost through it out the window thats when03:46
Colonel_Panicstuck @ 64% and the app window is greyed out03:46
markus_uwuh oh03:46
mrksbrdi know the feeling03:46
bob_I decided to try ubuntu03:46
flaccid_mrksbrd: yeah (if you use my current nickname i'll see it in red)03:46
=== flaccid_ is now known as flaccid
mrksbrdonce u get used to linux you will love it03:47
Colonel_Panicit's hanging periodically but appears to be making progress...03:47
bob_3 dyas ago I scrapped dual boot and I am 100% Linux03:47
markus_uwi'm still a dual boot guy, myself03:47
bob_I love it already03:47
markus_uwbut xp and ubuntu03:47
bob_what about it?03:47
markus_uwwell and opensolaris03:47
mrksbrdsimple ? for ya flaccid....is there a way to search for a *.pdf doc other than strigi?03:47
markus_uwsp thats more of a triple boot03:48
TeslaTonybob_: What kind of software do you run on a day-to-day basis?03:48
flaccidmrksbrd: locate and find03:48
markus_uwi dont know where the sp is from03:48
markus_uwColonel_Panic: hmm03:48
mrksbrdwhere's that @03:48
markus_uwColonel_Panic: id say wait it out03:48
mrksbrd[some things I am still learning]03:49
bob_Nothing special office type products internet download stuff like that03:49
Colonel_Panicyeah I didn't agonize for all this time, just to start freaking out now03:49
Colonel_Panicat least it seems to be working03:49
bob_right now I am trying ti make a decision as to which language to learn03:49
bob_so I could do alot more03:49
markus_uwColonel_Panic: gotta love this free software sometimes, eh?03:49
Colonel_Panichanging again at 66%03:49
TeslaTonybob_: Cool. I still dual boot, unfortunately, since every so often I find I need windows for something..but someday...03:50
bob_I never knew that there was so much available03:50
Colonel_Panicbut my processor load is very low03:50
mrksbrd& everything is FREE03:50
Colonel_Panicand I'm only using about 60% of available RAM03:50
bob_just curious what do u need windows for besides gaming03:50
=== rich_ is now known as reboot08
TeslaTonyAutoCAD and MS Office 200703:51
Colonel_PanicTeslaTony I have been using Linux exclusively for about a year now03:51
Colonel_Panicvery seldom do I feel the need to go back to the dark side03:51
markus_uwthats all i use mine for... and excel03:51
Colonel_PanicWine takes care of most of my Widows software needs03:51
markus_uwColonel_Panic: good for you :) always been a kde man?03:51
bob_its more than just free there is free stuff for Windows too but not much that u would want to use on a daily basis03:51
Colonel_Panicpretty much03:51
mrksbrdnothing really....just about everything windows has ubuntu has......just a new learning process03:51
flaccidmrksbrd: they are commands03:52
Colonel_Panic used to love Enlightenment back in the day. Gnome just feels clunky to me. KDE, not so much03:52
markus_uwlinux is so much nicer to use than it used to be03:52
TeslaTonyThe day I find a replacement for AutoCAD that works with Linux, I'm going to get about 80 gigs back03:52
madagascarWHAT do i do i have no gui03:52
madagascarall i have is the command line03:52
flaccidwell linux is just the kernel. the other software is available on many unixes03:52
markus_uwi remember when i first installed slackware like 7 years ago03:52
markus_uwthat was not fun03:53
mrksbrdflaccid: ty03:53
madagascari deleted my theme by accident and cant get back in03:53
markus_uwsorry, GNU/Linux03:53
bob_mrksbrd: you are right thats why I scrapped Widows altogether it is just a matter of getting03:53
Colonel_PanicMy nick "Colonel Panic" dates back to about 199703:53
bob_used to doing things a little differently03:53
Colonel_Panicwhen I installed Slackware for the first time03:53
faileasmarkus_uw: actually linux is the kernel. gnu is the userland03:53
flaccidmadagascar: goto a tty and stop kdm then startx and see what the problem is03:53
bob_plus openoffice opens all MS documents03:53
faileasyou can run linux with busybox or gnu with bsd, for example ;p03:53
Colonel_PanicI saw JR "Bob" Dobb's face and thought, "This is the OS for me!"03:53
markus_uwyes i understand03:54
markus_uwColonel_Panic: haha we're both ex slackers :)03:54
Colonel_PanicI kept getting the "kernel panic" error03:54
flaccidthe userland is the distro's implementation, not GNU03:54
Colonel_PanicI never did figure out what that was all about03:54
madagascarwhat do i do??/03:54
Colonel_PanicUh-oh, the hard drive is making weird noises now03:55
Colonel_Panicthis is not good03:55
bob_hey do any of you know any programing languages???03:55
markus_uwColonel_Panic: i remember my share of those03:55
flaccidits not real gnu linux if you have no gnu/gpl stuff on there..03:55
markus_uweek, what kinds of weird noises03:55
madagascar goto a tty and stop kdm then startx???03:55
Colonel_Panicclick--SCRATCH click click--SCRATCh03:55
Colonel_Panicpretty loud, too03:55
Colonel_Panicnot good03:55
Colonel_PanicI think this is a bad HDD03:56
markus_uwColonel_Panic: sounds like it03:56
flaccidmadagascar: thats right03:56
madagascarwhat does that mean03:56
flaccidmadagascar: press ctrl+alt+f2 to get to a tty, login, stop kdm with sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop and then you can run startx and see what the problem is with the X config if that is your issue03:57
mrksbrdbob: i would upgrade to kde ....more features03:57
bob_I installed the kde desktop already not sure which one I like better03:57
markus_uwthey both have their advantages03:57
markus_uwi think i like gnome better03:57
markus_uwbut im using kde now03:58
mrksbrdGnome is too bland for me03:58
bob_I kind of like that ubuntu is lite03:58
markus_uwso i dunno03:58
Colonel_Panicit won't mount03:58
* faileas tends to shift everything on gnome to one bar at the bottom ;p03:58
madagascari noe the problem03:58
dwidmannColonel_Panic: is that only when its seaking, or constant?03:58
madagascari deleted oxygen theme03:58
bob_Yeah I am using kde right now too :)03:58
Colonel_Panicit was occasional03:58
Colonel_Panicnear the end of the format03:58
Colonel_Panic90% +03:58
mrksbrdbob: if u were into photoshop there is a prog for here called GIMP03:59
Colonel_Panicit says 7.64 GB used03:59
bob_I didnt blike that it put a bunch of stuff into the gnome menus03:59
dwidmannColonel_Panic: writing especially tends to be very noisy, especially with external drives03:59
bob_Yeah I know03:59
Colonel_PanicP-shop runs fine under Wine03:59
flaccidyeah if you want to run old photoshop versions03:59
Colonel_Panicok well how can I mount this drive?03:59
flaccidoh hangon i take that back!04:00
bob_believe me I have spent hours in from of my laptop checking everything out04:00
flaccidadobe put money into wine, but was it crossover only or wine as well?04:00
mrksbrdu can use only up to ver 6 of photoshop in wine though right?04:00
bob_that was a concern because I do use photoshop alot04:00
flaccid!u | mrksbrd04:00
ubottumrksbrd: Unless you're Dutch or Flemish, or a government officer, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "are", "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..04:00
flaccidmrksbrd: nah recently adobe invested money into it to make ps run04:00
flaccidjust can't remember if it was wine or crossover or both04:01
markus_uwits nice, though i usually just use gimp when im in "nix04:01
ubottuThe Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org04:01
=== tomaz is now known as tomaz_frustrated
Colonel_Panicit seems to think /dev/sdb1 is a file04:01
markus_uwthats fine04:02
mrksbrdlol @ flaccid....sorry04:02
markus_uwnow you need to mount it04:02
flaccidColonel_Panic: it is, it should be a block special04:02
Memory_MoronSeems that CS2 works pretty well, Depending mostly on the linux-fu of the installer.04:03
markus_uwColonel_Panic: like before, mount it04:03
markus_uwshould work now04:03
bob_I dont know ANY languages in your opinions should I start with C C++ JAVA PYTHON or HTML04:03
markus_uwi like Java, myself04:03
mrksbrdDoes WINE still lock up on certain progs?04:03
bob_I know HML is not a language04:03
markus_uwlots of good books too04:03
bob_do you know any others?04:04
Colonel_Panicsdb1 is not a ditrectory04:04
bob_languages that is04:04
=== luis is now known as tigremx
markus_uwit shouldn't be04:04
markus_uwi've used C#, C++, VBA, IDL, Fortran...04:05
markus_uwi think thats it04:05
dwidmannbob_: I vote python or java. You can grab a free book on python from the repositories ... there are lots of good texts out there on java (grab the head first book, it's nice)04:05
bob_so for the first one you think I should go with JAVA?04:05
markus_uwyeah, the head first book is what i was going to recommend too04:06
markus_uwits a good one, yeah04:06
bob_head first is that the title?04:06
Colonel_Panicsudo mount -t ext3 /dev/04:06
Colonel_Panicit's not working04:06
Colonel_Panicsudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sdb104:06
bob_can you explain how to get it from the reposatories?04:07
markus_uw sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdb104:07
markus_uwshould be04:07
flaccidhtml is a language yes. bob_ perhaps take the convo to #kubuntu-offtopic ?04:07
Colonel_Panicit's not a FAT partition, it's eaxt304:07
flaccidColonel_Panic: why are you manually mounting a device like that?04:07
concernedcitizenhi guys, is anyone experiencing a latency delay when remote shelling on konsole?04:07
madagascarsorry im back04:07
bob_sure I have no problem with that will others follow???04:08
Colonel_Panicwell it won't mount any way I try it04:08
markus_uwoh, you need a place to mount it to04:08
madagascari did not work04:08
madagascarwhat was the command04:08
calamarianyone running 64-bit kubuntu that has been able to get Google Earth to work?  I get a blank starfield only04:08
flaccidColonel_Panic: and what is the error?04:08
madagascarsudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop04:08
madagascari got it wrong04:08
markus_uwput a directory after - 'sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sdb1 [directory]'04:08
dwidmannbob_: http://www.amazon.com/Head-First-Java-Kathy-Sierra/dp/0596009208/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1218683328&sr=8-104:09
markus_uwor am i crazy?04:09
Colonel_Panicsudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sdb1 /media/temp04:09
dwidmannmarkus_uw: I don't think your being crazy has anything to do with this :P04:09
bob_thank you dwidmann04:09
markus_uwdwidmann: :p04:10
flaccidColonel_Panic: disks & filesystems in system settings does all this for you04:10
madagascarflaccid:what was the command again04:11
madagascari messed up04:11
madagascari got into the ttyl04:11
madagascarbut theni messed up04:11
flaccidmadagascar: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop and then you will probably have to press ctrl+alt+f2 to get back to the tty again04:12
flaccidtry to keep your responses on 1 line, not 404:12
jasong1Can anyone help with a white screen?04:12
madagascarflaccid: thats all i need to do to get back my gui?04:13
flaccidmadagascar: no this is how you find out the problem with your X. then again i could of misunderstood you04:13
madagascarflaccid: i deleted oxygen theme04:14
Colonel_Panicit's still saying access denied whenever I try to write to it04:14
=== david is now known as other_david
Colonel_PanicOh I see04:15
markus_uwColonel_Panic: i've gotta go.. hopefully flaccid or someone can help ya out04:15
Colonel_PanicI have to change the permissions for it04:15
Colonel_Panicthanks for all the help04:15
markus_uwgood luck!04:15
markus_uwno problem04:15
other_davidI've got a problem loading codecs. Can anyone help?04:16
flaccidmadagascar: yes i know that, but that doesn't tell us anything about the problem04:16
flaccidmadagascar: and this is not kde4 support either04:16
madagascarokay i will be back04:16
flaccidyeah ext3 has permissions04:16
mrksbrddoesn't ext3 fall under "root"04:17
mrksbrdso it uses random passwords04:17
flaccidthat doesn't make sense to me04:17
mrksbrdext is the "swap drive" so it may be using the random password that "root" uses....does that make more sense04:18
mrksbrdall i'm saying ...might need to assign a static password instead of the default random04:19
mrksbrdflaccid: does that make sense?04:20
flaccidi don't know what passwords have to do with mounting an ext3 fs04:21
flaccidroot doesn't have a random password04:21
CyanideDemiseCan someone help me i just installed kubuntu and its not reconizing my wireless card . im on a dell inspiron 1000 laptop and its a dell wireless card.04:22
flaccid!wireless | CyanideDemise check support of the card first04:22
ubottuCyanideDemise check support of the card first: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs04:22
mrksbrdflaccid: thats not what I read, about "root', but you would know more than me04:23
flaccid!root | mrksbrd04:23
ubottumrksbrd: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo04:23
mrksbrdhe said he was trying to write to it not mount it.....I could be misunderstanding though04:24
other_davidany non-bots? help with a codec question?04:24
flaccidwell once an ext is mounted, the system will abide by the unix perms on the fs04:24
flaccid!ask | other_david04:24
ubottuother_david: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)04:24
mrksbrdlol....flaccid is on fire tonight04:25
madagascarflaccid: it did not work04:25
flaccid!doesntwork | madagascar04:25
ubottumadagascar: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.04:25
other_davidHelpful bot... not.04:26
madagascarit says command not found04:26
flaccidvery helpful yes04:26
flaccidmadagascar: which command are you trying to run?04:26
other_davidI've got players installed on my machine. apt-get says I've got the codecs installed. Players won't play. Grrrrr. Any ideas?04:26
emmyflaccid - sounds like by that definition I don't work.04:26
madagascarsudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop04:27
flaccidmadagascar: do you have kdm installed. like i said before this is not kde4 support, you could be using kdm-kde4 to which the command would be sudo /etc/init.d/kdm-kde4 stop04:27
flaccidother_david: what do they players so when you try to play and which codec are you trying to play?04:28
other_davidThey offer to try to load the codec, and then fail.04:28
=== bob_ is now known as bob_will
madagascarokay once again brb04:28
flaccidother_david: does it go around in a loop?04:28
flaccidkonwn bug. other_david which players did you try?04:29
=== bob_will is now known as bob_
=== bob_ is now known as bob_will
other_davidKaffeine. MoviePlayer. gxine.04:30
other_davidI tried uninstalling them (and the codecs) and reinstalling. No joy.04:30
Colonel_Panichow can I change the permissions for this mount point to allow everyone to read and write to the drive?04:31
flaccidother_david: i think at this stage i just use vlc player until they fix the bug04:31
flaccid!fstab | Colonel_Panic04:32
ubottuColonel_Panic: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions04:32
flaccidColonel_Panic: users option and this can also be done in disks & filesystems in system settings04:32
other_davidLet me try installing it. Is this a recent bug? Everything was fine until last weekend.04:32
flaccidColonel_Panic: oh i misread.04:32
flaccid!ntfs | Colonel_Panic04:32
ubottuColonel_Panic: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE04:32
flaccidColonel_Panic: if you have a look at that it will show you the umask options04:33
flaccidother_david: i guess its recent. i've never actually seen the auto codec downloader thing work yet..04:33
other_davidYay - vlc works. :)04:34
other_davidHow did this bug happen? A problem with recent updates?04:35
=== santiago is now known as santiago-ve
flaccidother_david: can't remember its on launchpad if you want to read about it04:36
other_davidOK, thanks!04:36
=== bob_will is now known as Rocknzen
|ColonelPanic|for some reason, I'm not able to open dolphin as root04:46
flaccid|ColonelPanic|: kdesudo dolphin04:47
|ColonelPanic|yeah, it didn't work just now04:47
|ColonelPanic|I just tried it again and it worked04:48
flaccidalways provide the error/behaviour or what can you do about it..04:49
dwidmannI've got a question, I have two separate X screens (2 monitors, non-xinerama, non-twinview), Lets say I have an app full screen in one screen (covering toolbar and all), why, when I give focus to the other screen does kicker show through the full screen app?04:56
vasilisaAnyone know why a while( in.ready() ) loop of mine isn't working when i load a StringReader into it instead of a FileReader? I thought they would be interchangeable05:01
vasilisaready() isnt ever returning false for some reason.05:03
flaccidvasilisa: this is kubuntu support05:03
vasilisaflaccid: OH! i did /join java and it didnt happen XD05:04
vasilisadidnt look at the channel bar05:04
vasilisait says i have to be identified to join that channel05:04
vasilisanever seen that before05:04
mortici_vasilisa: register with nickserv05:04
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about nickserv05:04
ubottuInformation about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.05:05
abwhostwI couldn't fix the problem05:05
abwhostwabwhostw@abwhostw-laptop:~$ sudo05:05
abwhostwsudo: /etc/sudoers is owned by gid 1002, should be 005:05
=== vasilisa is now known as Vasilisa
Vasilisawhat a nuisance05:05
flaccidabwhostw: a reinstall might be easier for you then05:05
mortici_Vasilisa: type /msg NickServ register <nick>05:05
abwhostwhow to reinstall05:05
flaccidabwhostw: do the same thing you did to instal it initially after backing up your files05:06
mortici_abwhostw: do you have a root password?05:06
abwhostwI do have05:06
abwhostwthe root05:06
abwhostwbut is expire05:07
abwhostwYour account has expired; please contact your system administrator05:07
abwhostwsu: User account has expired05:07
abwhostwdo u know how to fixed05:08
mortici_well you can do a recovery boot, and drop into single user mode and then do the edits you need from command line05:08
flaccidthat might be a bit har for abwhostw but good luck if you decide to abwhostw05:08
abwhostwlike we can fix05:09
abwhostwI want to make it 0 instaed of 1000205:09
mortici_abwhostw: boot into safe mode/recovery mode and do the repairs as needed05:10
mortici_abwhostw: can you do a ls -al /etc/sudoers05:11
corigoRunning Hardy Heron on a Lenovo T61 and can't get the microphone to work... any suggestions?05:11
mortici_hda intel?05:11
mortici_sound card?05:11
abwhostwafter I do cmd ls -al /etc/sudoers05:13
abwhostw-r--r----- 1 root root 470 2008-08-10 21:15 /etc/sudoers05:13
abwhostwr u here05:15
abwhostw-r--r----- 1 root root 470 2008-08-10 21:15 /etc/sudoers05:15
mortici_reboot the machine and start in recovery mode, that should pop you in as a root user05:16
mortici_run the following two commands05:16
mortici_chown root:root /etc/sudoers05:16
abwhostwwhich commands05:16
mortici_chmod 0440 /etc/sudoers05:16
mortici_and reboot05:16
mortici_your only gonna be in command prompt05:16
mortici_no GUI05:16
mortici_so write them now05:16
mortici_err down05:16
mortici_in order to reboot you can hit ctrl+alt+del or type reboot05:17
abwhostwok how to use05:17
abwhostwrecovery shell05:17
corigomortici_ yes, I believe so.05:18
mortici_corigo: in kmix add the mixers for the capture devices all 305:18
mortici_also enable the mixer for input source all 305:19
mortici_put checks in all 3 capture boxes and move the sliders to about 80%,70%,75% and change all the input sources to MIC05:19
mortici_your mic should work fine now05:20
corigokrec shows no mic levels at all05:20
mortici_corigo: you have to do it in kmix05:21
corigomortici_: yes, I have enabled all mics and all inputs in kmix, but still get no levels on mic05:21
corigoIn switches I have set the input to internal mic for both cases05:24
mortici_corigo: upgrade to 3.00 megabytes per image05:24
mortici_corigo: sorry05:24
mortici_does your kmix look like that?05:25
mortici_does it say HDA Intel in the upper left?05:25
mortici_corigo: nope to what?05:26
corigoNo HDA Intel05:26
corigoDoesn't look like that05:26
mortici_what does it say?05:26
mortici_and you have sound?05:26
corigoI see it is in the bottom right corner on mine05:27
mortici_whats that?05:27
corigoI am using version 2.6.1 and the HDA Intel is in the bottom right corner05:27
corigoYou say there is a 3.00 version?05:28
mortici_well same sound card05:28
mortici_im on KDE 4.105:28
mortici_thats why05:28
mortici_it doesn't make a difference tho05:28
mortici_make sure you have the same channels/mixers enabled05:28
mortici_and set them up to how i have them, it should work05:28
Colonel_PanicHaving some trouble with Kopete05:49
Colonel_Panicit won't log in05:49
Colonel_PanicFor some reason, KDEwallet is not starting when I log in to my KDE user account05:49
Colonel_Panichow can I start kdewallet manually?05:52
geniialt-f2 kdesu kwalletmanager05:54
yuriygenii: kdesu? you sure?05:55
geniiyuriy: It's graphial application specific to kde so yes05:56
yuriygenii: I mean, I didn't know kwalletmanager needs to run as root and I'm wondering why05:56
geniiyuriy: Actually apologies, you're correct05:57
geniiColonel_Panic: No kdesu neded there05:57
geniiyuriy: I've been running some other stuff all ay that needed it and got stuck into using it of habit there :)05:57
Colonel_Panicany ideas why Kopete isn't logging me in?05:57
Colonel_PanicShould I delete and re-create my account?05:58
corigomortici_: http://www.corigo.com/tmp/kmix.gif05:58
geniiColonel_Panic: msn?05:58
Colonel_PanicI have accounts on MSN, Y! and AIM05:59
geniiColonel_Panic: And all are not logging you in?05:59
geniiColonel_Panic: Is kopete auto-starting? I have a problem in the order which network comes up so that pidgin for instance tries to connect before network is ready.06:01
mortici_corigo: and?06:01
corigoNo recording level06:02
mortici_corigo: pleae turn of digital06:02
Colonel_PanicIt doesn't auto-start when I log into KDE06:02
geniiColonel_Panic: eg: if you start it after network is already up and established, same result then06:02
mortici_corigo: on the input tab06:02
mortici_and turn off the mic on the output06:03
Colonel_Panicwhat do you mean by "after network is already up and established"06:03
mortici_mute the docking mic and internal mic on the OUTPUT06:03
Colonel_Panichow can I fix this?06:03
geniiColonel_Panic: You already said it does not auto start, so this is then unlikely as the cause. Just ruling out stuff from simplest onwards at this point06:04
mortici_corigo: what are you using to test mic input?06:04
chairmanhello everyone06:06
corigomortici_: how do you test?06:08
mortici_i use mumble a audio chat client lemme install krec06:08
Colonel_Panicwhen I enable the system tray icon, it doesn't go intyo the system tray. Instead, it pops up at the upper left-hand corner of the screen06:09
mortici_corigo: yeah krec doesn't work for me either, it appears to you arts as its backend06:10
geniiColonel_Panic: I would recommend then delete/re-add an account to test if this works. If not then delete the file in /home/your-user-name/.kde/share/config/     called kopeterc06:10
mortici_major fail on that part, since your output is placed on alsa....06:10
geniiColonel_Panic: kde3 or kde4 ?06:12
mortici_Colonel_Panic: sudo kdeinit06:12
mortici_re launch app and it should dock06:12
geniiColonel_Panic: OK, the directory there of .kde is correct then in this instance (otherwise would be .kde4 or so)06:12
mortici_corigo: do me a favor and install mumble06:13
mortici_and test it with the audio wizard...06:13
Colonel_PanicError: "/tmp/ksocket-jalbert" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.06:14
Colonel_Panickdeinit: Shutting down running client.06:14
Colonel_PanicIt looks like dcopserver is already running. If you are sure06:14
Colonel_Panicthat it is not already running, remove /home/jalbert/.DCOPserver_jalbert-desktop__006:14
Colonel_Panicand start dcopserver again.06:14
Colonel_Panic 06:14
Colonel_PanicError: "/tmp/ksocket-jalbert" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.06:14
Colonel_PanicKDE Daemon (kded) already running.06:14
Colonel_Panicdidn't mean to select all that06:14
mortici_Colonel_Panic: pastebin next time ya?06:15
mortici_Colonel_Panic: does this happen all the time06:15
Colonel_Panicoh hell06:15
Colonel_Panicit's been  happening a lot lately06:15
Colonel_Panicwell no it appears I'm unable to start new applicaiotns06:16
Colonel_PanicKlauncher could not be reached via DCOP06:16
mortici_Colonel_Panic: do a sudo rm -rf ~/.DCOPserver_jalbert-desktop__006:17
mortici_then sudo kdeinit06:17
Colonel_Panicok deleted kopeterc06:18
abby87mortici_: what is the diff between kdeinit and kdeinint4...?is the latter just specially for kde4?06:18
mortici_kdeinit4 is for the kde4 dcop06:18
mortici_since his kde3 apps are not docking properly06:19
mortici_need to restart06:19
Colonel_Panicwhat does -rf mean?06:19
mortici_whoops thats for folders and files06:19
mortici_just do rm ...06:19
Colonel_Panicrm what?06:19
Colonel_Panicwhat am I deleting?06:19
faileaser, r is for recursive f is for force06:19
geniiColonel_Panic:   -rf means recursive and force06:19
geniifaileas: heh06:20
Colonel_Panicso mwhat did I just delete?06:20
faileasgenii: too slow ;)06:20
Colonel_Panicuh yeah06:20
mortici_Colonel_Panic: .... rm ~/.DCOP <hit Tab it will auto complete>06:20
faileasin theory a folder called  .DCOPserver_jalbert-desktop__0 (. meaning hidden) and anything below it06:21
geniiColonel_Panic: That file holds all the settings for kopete which kde looks to when starting it. So if it was some setting you chnged from default in it causing the problem it will make it like first time running it again next time you start it06:21
Colonel_Panicok so now what do I have to do?06:22
geniiColonel_Panic: Sorry, that would be the one in ~/.kde/share/config    the other dcop one is to reset the dcop system06:22
Colonel_Panicoh hell06:22
Colonel_Panicso where is that located?06:23
mortici_Colonel_Panic: did you rm it?06:23
mortici_if you did06:23
mortici_now do sudo kdeinit06:23
Colonel_PanicI'm getting the same error06:24
Colonel_Panicshould I log out and log back in?06:24
mortici_try it06:25
Colonel_Panicok now at least all my system tray icons are in their proper places06:29
corigomoritici_: Installed Mumble, how should I configure the installer?06:34
mortici_running the wizard?06:34
mortici_select alsa as output and input06:35
mortici_and select the device as dmix and dsnoop06:35
mortici_you should hear tones on the audio test back06:35
mortici_and then on the mic test you should hear yourself06:35
mortici_if you don't06:35
mortici_mess with the settings in kmix till you do06:35
mortici_i searched for the ibm t61 and people had to mess with it to get the sound to work...06:36
nicolas__hey i need help on my wlan06:37
nicolas__im using an atheros in an amdn64 pc06:37
nicolas__can anyone help me?06:37
nicolas__anyone there??06:38
geniinicolas__: A more specific description of the issue plus what model your wifi card is may help06:38
geniieg: wap.. no encryption/wep/wap?   lspci result of the wifi adapter? ndiswrapper?06:40
nicolas__nicolas@laptop:~$ lspci06:41
nicolas__00:00.0 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation MCP67 Memory Controller (rev a2)06:41
nicolas__00:01.0 ISA bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP67 ISA Bridge (rev a2)06:41
nicolas__00:01.1 SMBus: nVidia Corporation MCP67 SMBus (rev a2)06:41
nicolas__00:01.2 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation MCP67 Memory Controller (rev a2)06:41
nicolas__00:01.3 Co-processor: nVidia Corporation MCP67 Co-processor (rev a2)06:41
nicolas__00:02.0 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation MCP67 OHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev a2)06:41
nicolas__00:02.1 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation MCP67 EHCI USB 2.0 Controller (rev a2)06:41
nicolas__00:04.0 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation MCP67 OHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev a2)06:41
nicolas__00:04.1 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation MCP67 EHCI USB 2.0 Controller (rev a2)06:42
geniinicolas__: Only the line regarding the wifi adapter06:42
nicolas__00:06.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation MCP67 IDE Controller (rev a1)06:42
nicolas__00:07.0 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP67 High Definition Audio (rev a1)06:42
nicolas__00:08.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP67 PCI Bridge (rev a2)06:42
nicolas__00:09.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation MCP67 AHCI Controller (rev a2)06:42
nicolas__00:0a.0 Ethernet controller: nVidia Corporation MCP67 Ethernet (rev a2)06:42
genii!paste | nicolas__06:42
ubottunicolas__: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)06:42
nicolas__00:0c.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP67 PCI Express Bridge (rev a2)06:42
nicolas__00:0e.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP67 PCI Express Bridge (rev a2)06:42
nicolas__00:12.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce 7000M (rev a2) (rev a2)06:42
nicolas__00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] HyperTransport Technology Configuration06:42
nicolas__00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address Map06:42
nicolas__00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM Controller06:42
nicolas__00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control06:42
geniinicolas__: PLEASE STOP FLOODING06:42
nicolas__01:09.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Ricoh Co Ltd R5C832 IEEE 1394 Controller (rev 05)06:43
nicolas__01:09.1 SD Host controller: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C822 SD/SDIO/MMC/MS/MSPro Host Adapter (rev 22)06:43
nicolas__01:09.2 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C843 MMC Host Controller (rev 12)06:43
nicolas__01:09.3 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C592 Memory Stick Bus Host Adapter (rev 12)06:43
nicolas__01:09.4 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd xD-Picture Card Controller (rev ff)06:43
nicolas__07:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)06:43
genii<nicolas__:07:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)             is what was wanted06:43
nicolas__sorry didnt knew... so how can i make it work?06:44
geniinicolas__: Researching it, please wait06:45
navetzwhat does it mean if your command has a return value of 2?06:45
geniinicolas__: are you using 32 or 64 bit?06:46
nicolas__64 bit06:46
nicolas__athlon x206:46
geniinicolas__: I would recommend to try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=816780&highlight=atheros+ar5007eg      however since it has some gnome-specific instructions: wherever it says something like : gksu gedit    replace with: kdesu kate06:49
nicolas__genii can i whisper you?06:49
mortici_gnte all06:50
mortici_have fun!06:50
geniinicolas__: No. I do not accept private message when assisting. Apologies but this is my strict policy06:51
nicolas__ok dont problem...06:51
nicolas__it doesnt let me06:52
nicolas__couldnt find build package06:52
DarthFrognavetz: A return value means whatever the developer wishes it to me.  Other than a return value of 0 indicating a successful completion, there is no standard meaning for any return value.06:53
navetzDarthFrog: thanks06:53
Colonel_PanicOK I'm still having troubles every time I log ijnh06:53
Colonel_PanicFirst of all, the system tray icons appear in the upper left corner of the desktop06:54
geniinicolas__: build-essential is the name   note the - between build and essential06:54
Colonel_Panicsecond, when Kopete starts up, it is supposed to acces kdewalletmanager to access the passwords for my IM accounts, but the kwalletmanager dialog doesn't pop up to ask for my login, so kopete cannot connect06:55
Colonel_Panicalso, my computer's motherboard has an onboard shitty sound system, so I installed a sound card for better sound, and half the time, Linux uses the onboard sound system, and half the time it uses the sound card so half the times I reboot, I have to go in backl of the machine and switch the 1/8" plug to the opposite jack06:57
Colonel_Panicthe first two issues are more important to me than the sound card issue06:58
Colonel_Panicbut what can I do to fix this system tray icon thing? I have a feeling the problem is somehow related to Compiz-fusion06:59
Colonel_Panicit always happens right around the time the compiz manager takes over the desktop06:59
robotgeekColonel_Panic: i dunno about the systray issue, but you can fix the soundcard issue by blacklisting the onboard driver (prevents it from loading)07:00
Colonel_Panichow do I do that?07:00
robotgeekColonel_Panic: do you know your onboard soundcard driver module name?07:00
Colonel_Panicis there a way I can add a delay time to the startup applications so they don't start up right at the same time the compiz-fusion is taking over the desktop?07:01
Colonel_PanicVIA something or other07:01
robotgeekColonel_Panic: can you !pastebin the output of lsmod?07:01
DarthFroglsmod | grep snd07:02
robotgeekeven better :)07:02
DarthFrogemu10k1 is a SB Live! card.07:03
Colonel_PanicHDA VIA VT82xx07:03
Colonel_Panicis how it appears in kmix07:04
DarthFrogsnd_emu10k1 is not for a VIA sound chip.  I07:04
robotgeeksnd_intel_hda sounds like onboard sound07:04
geniisnd_hda_intel  rather, yes07:05
Colonel_PanicI don't understand why this damn kwalletmanager doesn't ask me to log in when Kopete starts07:05
DarthFrogFor a VIA chip, it'd be snd_via(something or other).07:05
Colonel_Panicthat must be it. I have an Intel chipset on the motherboard07:05
Colonel_Panicthey sound chiop is prollt Intel as well07:06
robotgeekColonel_Panic: anyways, add "blacklist snd_hda_intel" to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist (without quotes) and you should be good from the next reboot, hopefully07:06
Colonel_Panicshit my typing sucks07:06
DarthFrogColonel_Panic:  Do you have a SB Live! card installed, along with your on-board sound chip?07:07
DarthFrogAh.  You might have a conflict then.07:09
Colonel_PanicI yoinked it out of an old computer I had lying around ehre07:09
Colonel_Panicso should I remove that driver from the blacklist?07:09
DarthFrogNo.  Blacklist the onboard one if you want to use the Sound Blaster card.07:10
Colonel_Panicso what about my kwallet woes?07:10
Colonel_Paniccuz I can't log into my IM accounts until I fix that07:11
DarthFrogDon't know.  I've had problems with kwallet that I've not managed to figure out myself.07:11
Colonel_Panicshould I disable compiz-fusion?07:11
DarthFrogIf you wish.07:11
Colonel_Panicthye desktop effects are really kinda pointless and ghey07:12
robotgeekwhat are your issues with kwallet?07:12
rotHi i have a question07:12
rotI all ready install the apache07:12
rotand everything07:12
rotif I want to make my computer to bt see from abother computer like iP07:12
Colonel_Panicwhen Kopete starts, it asks wallet for my login passwords07:12
rotOD DNS07:12
rothow to do07:13
robotgeekColonel_Panic: did you set one up the first time?07:13
DarthFrogrot: I'm not understanding what you're saying.  What do you want your computer to do?07:13
robotgeekrot: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DynamicDNS07:13
Colonel_Panicbefore it will log in to the IM accounts, it has to get the passwords from the wallet but the wallet doesn't authenticate me so Kopete can'ty log me in07:13
DarthFrogrobotgeek: You're good.  :-)07:14
rotbut I want to use07:14
rotmy own doamin name07:14
Colonel_Panicset up the wallet? yeah07:14
robotgeekrot: you will have to point your nameservers to the ip address, i am not sure how that works with dynamic ips07:14
Colonel_PanicI don't think it will dork with a dynamic IP07:15
robotgeekColonel_Panic: i presume you are entering the correct password.07:15
Colonel_Panicit never asks me for the password07:15
Colonel_Panicthe dialog never even comes up07:15
Colonel_Panicuntil sometimes when I log out, the dialog box will pop up07:16
Colonel_PanicI'm thinking I need to hose that damn compiz fusion07:16
robotgeekColonel_Panic: i don't have issues with the kwallet on my end, i think compiz might be hidiing your dialogs07:16
* robotgeek has had issues with compiz doing things like that. till that gets fixed, i am not using it07:17
Colonel_Panicthing is more dam trouble than it's worth, in a big way07:17
rotwhat's the pass word form07:17
jkyrorot, we cannot access your :)07:17
robotgeekrot: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP#Phpmyadmin%20and%20mysql-admin07:18
Colonel_Paniccan I just uninstall it without messing up my desktop?07:18
robotgeekColonel_Panic: sure, just disable desktop effects (or are you talking about kwallet?)07:18
geniinicolas_: Yes?07:18
nicolas_finally after weeks trying i got my wlan working07:19
nicolas_thank you so much07:19
Colonel_PanicI believe (and this is just a strong educated guess based on my observations) that compiz fusion is starting up right as the dialog is popping up, and for some reason preventing it from appearing07:19
geniinicolas_: Glad to have assisted07:19
nicolas_ok bye07:19
Colonel_Panicthen, when I log out, after compiz quits, the dialog appears right before I get logged off07:19
robotgeekColonel_Panic: can you run alt + f2 (the run command window should pop up)07:19
robotgeekif you don't see it, compiz is hiding it.07:20
Colonel_Panicyeah I'm seeing that, but I'll bet you dollars to donkey... um, penises that it will come up as soon as I log out of KDE07:21
ubottuThe Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/07:21
Colonel_Panicthe Wallet dialog, I mean07:21
jegelieHello - can someone help me? I'm trying to make kubuntu boot on an iMac intel07:21
robotgeekColonel_Panic: please keep the language civil :)07:21
Colonel_Panicwell I did try to phrase it in a less obscene way ;)07:22
Colonel_Panicdo you know what I'm saying though?07:22
robotgeekColonel_Panic: anyways, you can disable kwallet if you so desire.07:22
Colonel_Panicwhen I log into KDE, what happens is this:07:22
jegelieI'm trying to boot from an external Firewire drive, but up till now no go.07:23
robotgeekjegelie: let me see if i can find a link07:23
robotgeekjegelie: uggh, okay. that toughens things07:24
jegelierobotgeek: I think I virtually tried everything...07:24
Colonel_Panicthe desktop appears, then blanks out for a second as compiz fusion takes over, then  when the desktop returns, my systray icons start to appear in the upper-left corner of the screen as tiny windows, instead of systray icons.07:24
jegelierobotgeek: I'm now with a GPT-partitioned drive, with a small partition to hold MBR.07:25
Colonel_PanicThen, when I log out, the screen blinks again as compiz shuts down, and the kwallet dialog pops up without any window decorations, then the window decorations sometimes appear, then a few seconds later the screen blinks again and the login scvreen appears.07:26
jegelieThe internal drive has to stay untouched - it holds my OSX (and I haven't got a backup of it - I know, ... but I lack the drivespace for that)07:26
Colonel_Panicso this leads me to believe compiz is the culprit07:26
robotgeekjegelie: i tried a couple of years ago to make it boot off usb. i failed :(07:26
robotgeekColonel_Panic: disable it, see if it fixes your issue then07:26
jegelierobotgeek: failed, or gave up to soon ;)07:27
Colonel_PanicWhen I just disable compiz while KDe is running, my desktop panel freaks out and displays 16 skinny little desktops07:27
jegelierobotgeek: as I get it, it must be possible nowadays - even with GRUB.07:27
robotgeekjegelie: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot/ExternalHardDisk/Firewire does not look too promising07:27
Colonel_PanicI'm thinking that there may be a way to fix the situation without disabling compiz, if I can delay the launching of the startup apps untilo after compiz has fiunished loading07:28
Colonel_Panicis this possible?07:28
robotgeekjegelie: plus, i think those are outdated. they probably refer to the ppc imac07:28
Colonel_Paniccan you put delays on when apps start up when the session starts?07:29
robotgeekColonel_Panic: not sure, if you are autostarting using scripts, yes. otherwise, i dunno. sprry07:29
Colonel_Panicif not, I'll just have to uninstall compiz fusion altogether07:29
jegelierobotgeek: yes - that was my experience too. Therefore I thought I'd better ask it to a "live" channel...07:29
Colonel_Paniccuz this is getting ridiculous07:29
Colonel_Panicit's been going on for months now and I've just about had it07:30
chipbuddylets say i have no use for a gui at all. how do i uninstall it so i'm just left with the command line?07:30
Colonel_Panicununstall KDE07:30
robotgeekjegelie: even this does not look very helpful, https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/1023307:30
geniichipbuddy: install ubuntu-minimal then remove packages like kubuntu-desktop xubuntu-desktop   or so on07:31
rotdid any boday know how to make the IP as like Dns with using the more polour sites07:32
rotand I had domain name07:32
Colonel_Panichere goes. I'm uninstalling compiz-fusion07:32
jegelierobotgeek: well, the last one leaves me thinking about a HFS+ boot CD, in order to fire up the external Linux disk07:32
Colonel_Panicif you hear a blood-curdling scream or a blue streak of profanity, you07:33
Colonel_Panicyou'll know it screwed up07:33
jegelierobotgeek: It kinda was the way I pictured it - standaard booting into OS X, with a CD option to boot into Linux.07:33
robotgeekjegelie: http://www.robotgeek.org/wiki/Main/BootAnywhereCd maybe a good starting point.07:33
geniirot: If you use some service like dyndns or so, you cannot make something like  www.myname.com point to myname.dyndns.org  easily07:34
geniirot: Even if you own the domain07:34
chemaHi to all07:34
robotgeekwell, you could technically redirect from myname.com myname.dyndns.com, but that defeats the purpose, i think :)07:34
robotgeekhello chema07:35
rothow to make it07:35
geniirot: Pay your ISP for a static IP address then in control panel of your domain point the dns name to that IP07:35
jegelierobotgeek: how do you keep coming up with those links?07:35
rotI had all ready the domain07:35
rotpay to who07:35
robotgeekjegelie: i try and document useful things i have tried, so later when i need to do it again, i don't need to think much :)07:36
chipbuddyholy crap i'm so happy. i've been spending all this time trying to find some light version of linux (DSL, deli, puppy), but it looks like ubuntu-minimal is all i need07:36
geniirot: For instance if I have Bell Sympatico for my internet. I ask them to give me an IP address which does not change (static). They charge about $5(Canadian $) a month for this. Then you go to the website from where you control your domain. You put in there as the DNS of your domain the static IP they assigned to you.07:37
jegelierobotgeek: I'm definitely puzzled about the fact that GRUB hangs. It is the GRUB from the 8.04 Kubuntu LiveCD. When I boot with ALT pressed down (i.e. EFI looks for bootable devices, with BIOS-emulation) I can see the FireWire HD labeled "Windows". That's OK with me. But on boot, it leaves me with a blinking cursor on a black screen.07:39
rotyeah but i'm rogers07:39
jegelierobotgeek: do I boot using rEFIt, I get a serie of errors regarding GRUB,07:39
* jegelie pulls up a picture of a bootscreen and types the errors over.07:40
robotgeekjegelie: does that version of grub even support efi? i think kubuntu comes with 0.9707:41
Colonel_PanicI uninstalled compiz-fusion but it's still running07:41
Colonel_PanicI guess it didn't uninstall07:41
Colonel_Panichow can I just turn it off?07:42
geniiColonel_Panic: alt-f2 kwin --replace07:42
robotgeekjegelie: http://grub.enbug.org/TestingOnEFI google provides (and this is grub 2.0 )07:42
jegelierobotgeek: it says here "Starting legacy loader | Using load options 'USB' | Error: Not found returned fromm legacy loader | Error: Not found from LocateDevicePath"07:42
jegelierobotgeek: do I need GRUB or GRUB2 at all?07:44
jegelierobotgeek: (and as I understood, GRUB2 is now referred to as GRUB, and the old GRUB is Legacy GRUB)07:44
robotgeekjegelie: i am unsure of what refit does. lemme see07:45
ubuntu_could someone try to help me with an error I get when I try to use my wireless card, it says "Could not parse the XML output from the network configuration backend."    ?07:45
robotgeekjegelie: my read of that was grub 2 has taken off from grub 0.97, and grub 0.97 is now legacy grub :)07:45
jegelierobotgeek: that is what I meant (sorry - it's still early morning over here)07:46
robotgeekjegelie: i see what refit does. http://refit.sourceforge.net/doc/c2s2_startos.html says something about elilo/grub + files07:48
ubuntu_or tell me what linux distro would work best in a laptop and has the wireless stuff incuded and working?07:48
Colonel_PanicWell, compiz-fusion is still installed...07:48
Colonel_PanicI turned it off and like I expected, my desktop panel got all messed up and all my window decorations disappeared07:49
Colonel_PanicI had to log out, and when I logged back in, the systray icons went to their proper places07:49
robotgeekubuntu_: are you using ubuntu/kubuntu?07:49
Colonel_Panicthe Wallet dialog opened and I properly got logged into Kopete07:49
Colonel_Panicwe'll see how well it works next time I log out07:50
robotgeekubuntu_: does the system recognize your wireless card?07:50
jegelierobotgeek: I see. rEFIt can boot GRUB, LILO, elilo, etc. Seems like it is nothing more than a polished EFI. I needed it only to sync MBR with GPT (after which I'm unable to boot from CD holding the "C" key down :( )07:51
ubuntu_I try to configure it and when I enable it, it tells me "Could not parse the XML output from the network configuration backend." and disables it.07:51
jegelierobotgeek: guess I'm gonna have to try the CVS GRUB2. Makes me a beta-tester (again  :\  )07:53
robotgeekjegelie: i have not messed with the macs, so i am pretty clueless on how the rest work. Good luck, and please post your results (after victory!) to the wiki page :)07:53
jegelierobotgeek: I will definitely do that.07:53
Colonel_Panicthanks for all the help guys07:54
Colonel_Panicthe problem seems to be fixed for the time being07:54
robotgeekjegelie: maybe this offers some insight/hope http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Debian/2008-07/msg01536.html07:54
Colonel_Panicjust one more question: how do I use chmod to set permissions for a directory?07:55
Colonel_PanicI have a new hard drive mounted at /media/sdb107:55
jtmoneyhey guys, i am running the kde4 remix cd as a "live cd" and there's no "install" shortcut on the desktop... is there a command i can run to install kde4 without having to reboot again? :)07:55
davidwhitewingsit's the same to set permissions for dirs just like the files07:56
Colonel_Panicso I can set permission on the entire drive as if it was just a file?07:57
Colonel_Panicwell... I guess it IS just a file07:57
Colonel_PanicI mean, this is UNIX07:57
ubuntu_between my video card and wireless cards I cant get linux on my laptop.07:58
ubuntu_eubuntu is cool I have that on my 6 year olds computer07:59
phihi all08:18
phiim using konversation for the first time .... is there a list of channels somewhere?08:19
phiha, i found it. just press f508:19
=== apachelogger_ is now known as apachelogger
=== serge is now known as serge_
=== serge_ is now known as ledroide
=== desti_T2 is now known as desti
MetaMorfoziSHi all08:31
MetaMorfoziSI'm under hardy heron with kde
MetaMorfoziSMy problem is that for a short time krunner or how it named (altf2 dialog) hangs on for a long time08:31
MetaMorfoziSafter executing a cmd08:31
MetaMorfoziSit means 5-10seconds in frozen state08:31
flaccid!bugs | MetaMorfoziS08:31
ubottuMetaMorfoziS: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots08:31
MetaMorfoziSIt's not a bug, i think I'm messed up something08:32
MetaMorfoziSbecause it works on every other machines, and it worked here before...08:32
MetaMorfoziSSo the question is, how can i debug this? What can i check?08:32
MetaMorfoziSas you think08:33
ubuntu_can Somebody help me08:33
MetaMorfoziSIf you don't ask i don'T think...08:33
ubuntu_ 08:33
ubuntu_ 08:33
ubuntu_Can Anybody Help me with something08:33
MetaMorfoziSi think you are ignored by now @ the half of the channel08:34
MetaMorfoziSjust ask, don't ask for ask:)08:34
flaccidis it actually called krunner in kde308:34
ubuntu_How Do i Run a SH FIle08:34
MetaMorfoziSfirst grant execution of it08:34
MetaMorfoziSchmod +x foo.sh08:34
ubuntu_I dont know how08:34
MetaMorfoziSthen ./foo.sh08:34
ubuntu_Do i go in terminal08:35
flaccidubuntu_: sh ./file.sh08:35
MetaMorfoziSor if it causes strange errors then bash ./file.sh08:35
ubuntu_Cant find sql.sh08:36
ubuntu_do i gotta cd to the directory08:36
flaccidubuntu_: you can either do that or give the full path08:36
ubuntu_Its not working correctly08:37
eddieftwhello all, i need help converting a few files from ogg to mp308:37
flaccid!doesntwork | ubuntu_08:38
ubottuubuntu_: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.08:38
ubuntu_brb guys08:38
flaccideddieftw: i think soundkonverter can do that08:38
SchijnnHow do I adjust the properties on a secondary taskbar in 3.5?09:27
waylandbillI downloaded an iso and did an md5sum of it. It doesn't match the release directory's sum from it's list. Is my only action to correct this to download the iso from scratch?09:57
larss0nshit lol09:58
flaccid!language | larss0n09:58
ubottularss0n: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.09:58
larss0nok, sorry09:58
waylandbilllaptop locked up during the transfer. I figured one of the blocks wget wrote out would be bad. Thanks.10:00
=== larss0n is now known as Subwoofer
=== Subwoofer is now known as Ridah
MrKennie_waylandbill: there are ways you can download just the bad parts again. I believe rsync is good at that.10:01
MrKennie_how are the ati fglrx drivers compared with nvidia these days? nvidia 2d is terrible atm.10:07
flaccidboth have issues. ati probably more10:08
MrKennie_I knew ati have always had troubles, wondered if they have got any better10:08
MrKennie_that's whty I stuck with nvidia but they seem to be getting worse.10:09
flaccidfglrx will probably always have big issues the way it keeps going but the radeonhd seems much better but i havnt used it myself with a hd card10:09
waylandbillMrKennie_: as good as the hardware I guess. My radeon 200m in my laptop couldn't get out of its own way, but the driver doesn't seem to produce any errors or warnings. :-)10:10
=== wesley is now known as profoX-Akademy
MrKennie_my issue is 2d, and compiz runs so much better on my laptop which just has Intel graphics.10:11
MrKennie_surely that aint right :)10:11
waylandbillI've had far less issues with the nvidia in my desktop. Runs compiz great, not that I use it anymore.10:11
MrKennie_maybe I should look for an older ati and use the opensource drivers. They've always seemed good.10:12
waylandbillI have to say that I'm using closed drivers for both though.10:12
MrKennie_I don't even know if my card is supported anymore now that nvidia re splitting up drivers again.10:13
MrKennie_maybe I'll wait to see what the news is on the latest drivers is and get something better than I got.10:15
waylandbillMrKennie_: that definately is a pain them splitting.10:15
MrKennie_at least ati open their older drivers10:16
MrKennie_something I guess10:16
flaccidMrKennie_: that did next to nothing10:16
MrKennie_more than nvidia had ever done.10:16
flacciddo you see any effect?10:16
MrKennie_the radeon 9000 I got seems to work well10:17
flaccidyes but imo its their way of relinquishing responsibility10:17
MrKennie_I guess10:17
waylandbillI have to agree.10:17
MrKennie_so it's really jsut a way for ati to score kudos in the opensource world.10:18
MrKennie_like Via.10:18
flaccidpretty much. but because of the other issues i don't see many unix users respecting them10:19
waylandbillif they cared that much, they'd find a way to work with open source  community on new products rather than just aging ones.10:19
MrKennie_yea, absolutely10:20
mneptokthey do care. about lawyers.10:23
mneptokand IMO, if nVidia or ATI ever released source code to their drivers, it would be patent lawyer armegeddon10:23
flaccidati have done so10:26
waylandbillflaccid: I avoided downloading the entire iso by mounting it and using jigdo-lite. Turns out about 1000 files were good and only 200 to re-download. a little easier on the servers that way.10:56
flaccid!info jigdo-lite10:57
ubottuPackage jigdo-lite does not exist in hardy10:57
flaccid!find jigdo10:57
ubottuFound: jigdo, jigdo-file10:57
flaccid!info jigdo10:57
ubottujigdo (source: jigdo): GTK+ download manager (beta version). In component universe, is extra. Version 0.7.3-1ubuntu2 (hardy), package size 191 kB, installed size 452 kB10:57
flaccid!info jigdo-file10:58
ubottujigdo-file (source: jigdo): Download Debian CD images from any Debian mirror. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.7.3-1ubuntu2 (hardy), package size 203 kB, installed size 548 kB10:58
flaccidweird but thanks for the info!10:58
waylandbillflaccid: it is useful for upgrading CDs like say 8.04 to 8.04.1. It will use any packages it can find locally and only download ones it doesn't have and rebuild the cd. pretty handy.10:59
flaccidhmm that is pretty handy11:00
=== PEBKAW is now known as Lono
=== Lono is now known as hookoa
hookoaGood morning.  Could someone help me with a boot loader question?11:16
waylandbillthey may be able to. don't know until they know the question.11:17
hookoaI tried to install kubuntu this morning and the installation failed at what seems to be the halfway point of setting up Grub bootloader.11:18
hookoaGrub 1.5 is telling me I have an Error 5.11:19
hookoaI've looked online with another computer for a solution, but I couldn't figure out what I need to do.11:19
waylandbillso the installation never completed?11:20
hookoaIt seems that way.  I reinstalled, and that went through successfully, but when I restarted (after it told me to), there was the same error message.11:21
waylandbillError 5 I think means that it cannot find the file that continues the boot process needed by grub on the hard drive (since all of it cannot fit in the MBR)11:22
waylandbillyou may be able to verify the menu.lst and run grub-install to re-install it.11:22
hookoaHmm....  Let me figure out how to do that.  Thanks for helping me.11:23
waylandbillhookoa: you should be able to use the live-cd to boot up and then mount the root partition and install grub to it using grub-install. You'll need to use the --root-directory switch to specify the mount point.11:24
waylandbillgood luck.11:25
nogagplzHey guys, is there a guide anywhere on how to disable pulseaudio in kubuntu 8.04?11:32
aprovaux1tem alguem ai?11:34
hookoaOnce I figure out how to load kubuntu onto my computer, I'll be a bit more helpful, nogagplz.11:35
nogagplzhehe, I gave up on Kubuntu at 7.04, trying to help a friend :P11:36
aprovaux1pode me ajudar11:36
aprovaux1help me11:39
aprovaux1I want to install in my amsn kubuntu11:39
waylandbill!info amsn11:40
ubottuamsn (source: amsn): An MSN messenger written in Tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.97+final-0ubuntu5 (hardy), package size 3426 kB, installed size 11308 kB11:40
waylandbillaprovaux1: did you try installing using adept?11:40
aprovaux1ja tried!11:42
waylandbillaprovaux1: what was the result? an error?11:42
aprovaux1so in my kubunto so has amsn 0.95, I install the amsn 0.9711:44
waylandbillaprovaux1: so you wanted a newer version. You downloaded a package from the project site? Was it a source package?11:45
=== wesley is now known as Ichigo
amithow to remove any application by konsole11:57
amitplease tell me11:57
flaccid!apt | amit11:57
ubottuamit: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)11:57
waylandbillamit: apt-get remove package11:57
ilembitovHi, all. How do I switch to KDE4-edition of Kubuntu and get rid of all Kubuntu-KDE3 packages easiliy?11:57
amiti tried but not working11:58
waylandbillamit: not working means what exactly? an error?11:58
amitamit@amit-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get remove movie player11:59
amitReading package lists... Done11:59
amitBuilding dependency tree11:59
amitReading state information... Done11:59
amitE: Couldn't find package movie11:59
ubottupastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)11:59
amitthis is complet message11:59
waylandbillamit: movie player isn't the name of the package as it can't be two words. You may mean mplayer?12:00
amitamit@amit-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get remove movie player12:00
amitReading package lists... Done12:00
amitBuilding dependency tree12:00
amitReading state information... Done12:00
amitE: Couldn't find package movie12:00
amitya right12:00
amitits totem movie player12:00
amithow i can uninstall it12:00
ubottuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs12:01
waylandbill!info totem12:02
ubottutotem (source: totem): A simple media player for the Gnome desktop (dummy package). In component main, is optional. Version 2.22.1-0ubuntu2 (hardy), package size 39 kB, installed size 84 kB12:02
waylandbillamit: apt-get remove totem12:02
amitthanks buddy its work12:03
waylandbillamit: FYI, apt wants the name of the actual package, not how it appears in the menu.12:03
waylandbillyou're welcome.12:04
amitbut it still on program menu12:04
nogagplzOkay so how can I get rid of pulseaudio, and go back to alsa? just sudo aptitude purge pulseaudio?12:04
amitits not remove12:04
caspi1i just installed kde4 on my ubuntu, and i need some help with panel....can somebody help me?12:04
waylandbillamit: pastebin the output of the apt-get remove command.12:05
waylandbillcaspi1: #kubuntu-kde412:05
amitwhere is pastebin12:05
ubottupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)12:05
amiti dont for that12:05
caspi1there is noone answering...12:07
waylandbillamit: it appears that it removed it okay.12:09
* flaccid yawns12:11
flaccid!kde4 | caspi12:11
ubottucaspi: KDE 4.1.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. Packages can be found at  http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1 - Support in #kubuntu-kde412:11
* waylandbill graps flaccid a cup of coffee.12:13
flaccidim drinking beer :)12:14
waylandbill7 am here. not quite time for a cold beer... yet. ;-)12:15
neukadminhi, I installed the last xen kernel for my pc, but every boot up I get an error like this: "timeout waiting for ADMA IDLE, stat 0x0" and the system reboots, what can I do now?12:45
waylandbillneukadmin: tell grub to boot the kernel you had before you put that kernel in.13:02
vsudilov_hm anyone know how to automatically remove white border space from PDFs?13:02
=== vsudilov_ is now known as lokai-lin
deviusi just wanted to ask if i should update my hardy heron alpha release via internet or download and make a new installation13:04
neukadminwaylandbill I bootet with the old non xen kernel (this way I can use irssi right now) but I do need xen support, which this old kernel doesnt have13:07
phihi all13:34
phigot a strange problem: 4GB ram .....13:35
=== david is now known as Guest27357
phiwhen I user the generic kernel i get 3.1GB - when i use the server kernel power management sucks (fan is always running)  ....13:36
phiAre there any solutions without compiling a custom kernel???????13:37
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about kerberos13:38
phiis this the right forum to ask such a question or should i post it somwhere else?13:40
madagascarI need major help13:56
madagascarI lost my gui13:56
madagascarall i have is my command line13:56
faileasmadagascar: try startx ?13:57
madagascargreg:/usr/lib/kde4/etc/kde4/kdm/kdmrc: no such file or directory stopping KDisplay manager : kde-kde4 not running c/var/run/run/kdm-kde.pid not found13:58
fredthemonkeyhi. i can't install the "samba" package from adept - it says broken and no further info.13:58
madagascarhow do i start startx13:58
fredthemonkeyhow can i get it to install?14:01
flaccidfredthemonkey: try it from konsole and advise the errors ie. sudo apt-get install samba14:02
flaccid!samba | fredthemonkey14:02
ubottufredthemonkey: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.14:02
madagascarhow do i start startx14:03
fredthemonkeyso i better compile it from source?14:04
flaccidmadagascar: it does it for you14:04
madagascarflaccid: hey yea i couldnt do it last night14:05
flaccidfredthemonkey: apt-cache policy samba please14:05
madagascarflaccid: i did what you told me to do and this was the error 'greg:/usr/lib/kde4/etc/kde4/kdm/kdmrc: no such file or directory stopping KDisplay manager : kde-kde4 not running c/var/run/run/kdm-kde.pid not found'14:06
flaccidmadagascar: ok so as you can see a blobal kde config file is missing, lets look on the packages site to see which pkg it is in14:06
untiledhi, if i try to mount my iphone with iphone-mount as is written on ubuntu help konsole tell me "Please add yourself to the fuse group, logout/in and try again." what it mean?14:06
flacciduntiled: goto system settings and add yourself to the group 'fuse'14:07
fredthemonkeyflaccid: http://paste.ubuntu.com/37413/14:07
flaccidmadagascar: sudo apt-get install --reinstall kdm-kde414:07
flaccidfredthemonkey: ok same thing with samba-common now please14:08
madagascarflaccid: do i need to do anything else lik that ctrl alt f214:08
fredthemonkeyhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/37415/ here we go :)14:09
BlueAidan_workdoes the kubuntu 8.04.1 live dvd use kde 4.1?14:09
flaccidmadagascar: maybe but if its just a missing file a reinstall might do it14:09
flaccidBlueAidan_work: no14:09
madagascarflaccid: thank  ill be back hopfully it will be the last time14:10
BlueAidan_workhrrm, I really don't even want to mess with kde3 on this new box.14:10
fredthemonkeyflanccid: http://paste.ubuntu.com/37415/14:10
BlueAidan_workdoes the kubuntu-desktop package use kde 4.1?14:10
flaccidfredthemonkey: didn't you already show me this?14:11
gnummwhat is the best java plugins for 64bit firefox?14:11
flaccidBlueAidan_work: please read the topic for details14:11
fredthemonkeyflaccid: yes, sorry. i thougt you didn't see it14:11
=== apachelogger_ is now known as apachelogger
flaccidfredthemonkey: if my name is in it, i see it14:11
flaccidfredthemonkey: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list14:11
fredthemonkeyflaccid: okay14:11
flaccidfredthemonkey: at this point it looks like you have to disable hardy-updates to install it14:12
fredthemonkeyflaccid: http://paste.ubuntu.com/37416/14:13
fredthemonkeyflaccid: but then it wouldn't be the newest version, right?14:13
flaccidfredthemonkey: no it wouldn't. i don't see updates in there. can you please run a sudo apt-get update then try again?14:14
fredthemonkeyflaccid: okay14:14
fredthemonkeyflaccid: it gives me the same error14:16
fredthemonkeyflaccid: i guess i better compile it from source and get the newest version that way14:17
flaccidthere should be no need. you could install it manually with dpkg -i --force-overwrite anyway14:17
flaccidmaybe im ready it the wrong way around. goto adept and enable updates and try again14:18
fredthemonkeyflaccid: what do you mean with enable updates? my system is up to date and gets updates as soon as they are out. i manually checked for updates, too.14:19
flaccidfredthemonkey: manage repositories in adept and enable the updates repos14:19
untiledhow to mount an ssh server?14:20
fredthemonkeyflaccid: ah i guess i understand you now. okay, i did that. lets see...14:20
fredthemonkeyhuh? now there's a whole bunch of updates? how come this wasn't activated O_O?14:21
madagascarflaccid: i did it but nothing changed14:22
baudthiefIs there any real way to move from 32Bit Kubuntu to 64Bit Kubuntu without a complete reinstall of everything? (I need the missing 800MB RAM heh)14:22
flaccidi have no idea what this means or whatever:14:22
flaccid *** 3.0.28a-1ubuntu4.4 014:22
flaccid        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status14:22
baudthiefie: without formatting14:22
fredthemonkeyflaccid: maybe it works after these updates :)14:24
flaccidwhat updates?14:24
fredthemonkeyflaccid: that update flag i set in adept which wasnt activated by default for some strange reason14:24
flaccidits still fetching updates?14:25
timo_hi all, I14:25
fredthemonkey126 updates total14:25
timo_I'm trying to get alt symbols in Kubuntu14:25
madagascarflaccid: what should i do now14:25
flaccidfredthemonkey: you have to wait for that before you try to install it, thus the reason for updating the list. this is likely the problem.14:26
timo_but it doens't work...14:26
flaccidmadagascar: start kdm-kde414:26
madagascarhow do  i do that14:26
timo_not in kate, not in openoffice, not in firefox...14:26
fredthemonkeyflaccid: yes that propably is it. :) i'll write back, when its done14:26
flaccidmadagascar: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm-kde4 start14:27
flaccidfredthemonkey: ok14:27
madagascarand then14:27
=== oz4kk is now known as erikja
flaccidmadagascar: it should start kdm14:30
timo_I'm trying to get alt symbols in Kubuntu, but I had no luck so far... googled it already.14:32
timo_in firefox, some characters appear when I use the "ctrl-shift-U ..." method, but not all of them14:33
timo_for example, when I want an "e" with a line on it (can't type it here, but it's used often in Dutch), I get a box with "0082" in it.14:34
timo_however, according to this table, it should give me the /e: http://www.cdrummond.qc.ca/cegep/informat/Professeurs/Alain/files/ascii.htm14:35
Taggnostrtimo_, maybe you need some font that supports them14:36
timo_can somebody confirm this bug?14:36
timo_Taggnostr: that could be the problem... but where do I find them?14:37
tsuna27flaccid: thank you this is madagascar14:37
tsuna27it now works14:37
flaccidtsuna27: all good?14:37
flaccidmadagascar is an awesome trance track anyway glad you fixed it14:37
fredthemonkeyflaccid: woo its installing. thanks a bunch - with out you i wouldn't even have noticed that it wasnt updatin some packages anmore!14:38
tsuna27flaccid: madagascar is also my nickname in real life14:38
ubottuFont installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer14:38
Taggnostrtimo_, try there14:38
fredthemonkeyflaccid: now samba is installed :) :)14:39
timo_Taggnostr: thanks14:39
flaccidcool two happy users tonight yay14:40
timo_Taggnostr: but are you sure it's the fonts? Not the character set or something?14:40
Taggnostrwhen it is an encoding problem you see wrong char or a black <?>14:41
timo_no I get a small square box with the numeric code of the symbol I'm trying to insert14:42
Taggnostrafaik if no font in the system has that letter it can't be displayed14:42
Taggnostrthat it's used instead of the missing char14:42
timo_got firefox 314:42
Taggnostrif you check on wikipedia there are links too14:43
Taggnostrin the help page about fonts there are both links and tutorial that explain how to obtain/install these fonts14:43
Taggnostrtry to go in a random page with strange characters, if you are lucky you will find a link to this page, otherwise just search it14:44
timo_ah, thank you very much14:44
tsuna27how can i edit my log inscreen in admin mode14:47
=== apachelogger_ is now known as apachelogger
ville88hello can anyone help me with  GPROFTPD? cant get anyone to access my ftp server15:18
timo_Taggnostr: I found out that the unicode characters I was trying to get just have a different code on my system15:20
timo_to get the e with the stripe, I had to use UE9 instead of U8215:21
=== luis is now known as tigremx
DarkTanok, how do i get my pcmcia wireless card working in 8.04?15:31
DarkTani'm using xubuntu rightnow, but that channel appears to be dead15:31
Talia187Quelqun parle francais ici ?15:33
ubottuCe canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr15:34
Talia187Ah okay nan parce que la dernière fois tout le monde parlait anglais xD15:34
faileaspardon, ma francais n'est pas tres bon, je etudy a... un anne15:45
faileas(and my spelling is aweful ;p)15:45
ubottuCe canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr15:47
DarkTanneed help using my pcmcia wireless card in 8.0415:47
administrateurTest of text15:50
faileaswaylandbill: yeah, did that. and that was about all the french i can muster right now ;p15:53
chipbuddyi'm installing ubuntu minimal on an old lap top. one of the install screens says "low memory mode" and then it wants me to select the encoding of the console. the default choice is "UTF-8"... what is this screen?16:03
=== gridl0ck is now known as radius
Agent_bobit's to help you be able to read the setup instructions     if you can read this, then utf8 should be fine16:04
=== radius is now known as Guest70192
faileasubuntu minimal? never heard of it16:05
Agent_bob!info ubuntu-minimal16:06
ubottuubuntu-minimal (source: ubuntu-meta): Minimal core of Ubuntu. In component main, is important. Version 1.102 (hardy), package size 24 kB, installed size 52 kB16:06
faileasAgent_bob: i mean, it it another distro?16:06
chipbuddyi found an old laptop that has 64 mb of ram. i've tried other lightweight linux distros, but all of them kind of bothered me.16:07
Agent_bobanother distro ?     no.    you have ubuntu-minimal + kubuntu-desktop    the minimal is the base system   the OS  if you will.16:07
faileasAgent_bob: ahh, ok16:08
Agent_bobchipbuddy after you get that installed you can  apt-get install x-window-system-core fluxbox xdm mc elinks        and have a light weight gui to run on it. + file manager and web browser16:10
Agent_bobjust a sujestion of package.   you will probably want to select your own.  but the  x-window-system-core  will put xorg on it.16:10
chipbuddyagent_bob: i'll be happy with just a command line. really i just want to be able to program around the house. one of the (many) problems with this laptop is has no internet connection, so my normal method of installing software (synaptic and apt-get) won't work16:12
faileaschipbuddy: use another box/vm to install, then copy to CD?16:13
faileasusing aptoncd, or just coping out apt's cache16:13
chipbuddywhoah... thanks for those ideas16:13
faileaschipbuddy: i had similar problems before XD16:14
* Agent_bob just copies all dl'd packages to cd and makes symlinks in /var/cache/apt/archives then i can use the same cd on any box and add to it from the main box. well i use a dvd rather than a cd but you get the gest16:15
rothow to assign the IP16:16
Agent_bobknetwork manager16:16
Agent_bobifconfig ?16:16
faileasAgent_bob: well, the basic idea is there ;p16:16
faileasthere IS a minimal ubuntu disk16:17
Agent_bobedit /etc/network/interfaces ?16:17
* faileas whoots16:17
Agent_bob@ rot16:17
rothow to opene the file16:17
Agent_bobwhich file ?16:17
Agent_bobi offered three solutions16:18
faileasrot: sudo nano (or text editor of choice) /etc/network/interface ?16:18
* faileas tend to use nano for everything ;p16:18
Agent_bobthe first of which would be the "kubuntu way"16:18
rotok I opene the file16:18
rotand what I gone write inside the file16:19
Agent_bobrot example only    http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d4394c4c816:19
rotmy file is empty16:20
Agent_bobsounds like you opened a new file16:20
Agent_bobcase sensitive16:21
faileas(i think i left out the s...)16:21
ubottuYou can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.16:21
rotI open with ur cmd16:21
Agent_bobur ?16:23
rotfor exmaple I have this ip how to make16:23
rotremote form outside16:23
* Agent_bob reverts to first sujestion.16:25
Agent_bobknetwork manager16:25
rotok and after16:26
faileasAgent_bob: i think so too >_>16:28
rot* Agent_bob help16:29
Agent_bobrot ok.  lets stop playing the "i'm too lazy to type it all out" game, and why don't you tell us exactly what you are trying to do.  then someone here might be able to walk you through it.     i don't have enough information at present to be able to do more than point you at the gui tool.16:29
ubottuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs16:30
Agent_bobi wasn't trying to be rude,  it's just that this question "<rot> how to assign the IP" makes too many assumptions   and my first few seemed to be incorrect.16:33
Taggnostrtimo_, Char: é - Codepoint: U+00E9 - Name: LATIN SMALL LETTER E WITH ACUTE - Category: Ll - Block: Latin-1 Supplement16:35
Taggnostrthis one?16:35
mizipzor_is there a command for exiting the X server and doing stuff in just shell? it seems to restart as soon as i shut it down16:42
federico_castellano alguien porfavor?16:43
khaije1why can't i find a .torrent for the stable a/o testing netinst cds?16:44
khaije1the http d/l is ass slow16:44
mizipzor_federico_: try in english and i might be able to help :)16:44
rotok don't worry nothing happen16:44
timo_Taggnostr: yes, that one16:45
=== apachelogger_ is now known as apachelogger
khaije1::ahem:: nevermind16:47
rot ok16:49
=== unknown_ is now known as unknown__
roldyxhello my kubuntu freeze.. how do i repair it probloblem??16:50
ubottuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots16:51
roldyxAgent_bob: is it for me?16:52
Agent_bobif you find one.  yes.16:52
roldyxAgent_bob: but I dont know because freeze my notebook16:52
roldyxthe freeze is random16:53
Agent_bobfirst thing is diagnosing the problem    second is determining if it is a bug or a blunder.  then repairing or devising a work-around for the particular issue.       without step one.  step two and three are moot16:53
Agent_bobroldyx you can check the log files in /var/log   to see if several old logs end with the same thing   which might indicate either normal shutdown or the hang up16:54
Agent_bobroldyx you can test the "magic sysRQ" keys to see if it is hung or the display has stopped responding.     exapmle;  alt+sysRQ+u  alt+sysRQ+b   if that reboots the system was not hung.  if not it's hung.16:56
roldyxAgent_bob: sysRQ??16:58
Agent_bobyes sysRQ   on qwerty 104 pc keyboards  it's on the same key as [print screen]     kernel hotkeys are   alt+sysRQ+[r,e,u,o,b]   there are others but those are about all that seem useful to me.16:59
Agent_bobon some notebooks you'll have to just look for it.16:59
Agent_bobbreak out the ole monical and hunt it up...17:00
DarkTani need some help installin a pcmcia wireless card under 8.0417:01
DarkTan!info pcmcia17:01
ubottuPackage pcmcia does not exist in hardy17:01
DarkTan!info wireless17:01
ubottuPackage wireless does not exist in hardy17:01
ubottuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs17:01
Agent_bob!info pcmciautils17:02
ubottupcmciautils (source: pcmciautils): PCMCIA utilities for Linux 2.6. In component main, is important. Version 014-4ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 29 kB, installed size 156 kB17:02
DarkTanahh, thanks you17:02
Agent_boband you'll want  kernel-pcmcia-modules-`uname -r`   if you don't have that already17:02
DarkTancan i d/l pcmciautils to usb drive?17:02
ubottuYou can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords or regex>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!17:03
DarkTanthe comp i'm installing to has no internet at all17:03
DarkTandoes it matter that i'm using xubuntu?17:03
Agent_bobsee teh url ^.   and no it doesn't matter.   *buntu == *buntu == *buntu      same system same packages.   different defaults17:04
DarkTanok, which one do i need for an AMD k6?17:05
Agent_bobteh   hah.   sorry.    the ^17:05
Agent_bobDarkTan the one that matches the kernel.17:05
mizipzorstartx problem with nvidia driver: dmesg past http://pastebin.com/f7e51d7e817:05
mizipzorseems to be a version missmatch, anyone know how to fix?17:05
DarkTanhow do i tell what kernel i'm using?17:05
Agent_bobthat's why i said     kernel-pcmcia-modules-`uname -r`  <<<17:06
Agent_bobuname -r17:06
DarkTani assume i'm supposed to type that in a terminal?17:06
Agent_bob!nv | mizipzor reinstall the driver maybe ?17:07
ubottumizipzor reinstall the driver maybe ?: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto17:07
Agent_bobproprietary drivers will require reinstall with each kernel subversion17:08
Agent_bobsubverted kernels anyway !17:08
mizipzorAgent_bob: already tried that ... :/17:10
roldyxAgent_bob: i found this error17:11
roldyx(EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)17:11
roldyxAtom 4, CARD32 4, unsigned long 417:11
DarkTan"bash: kernel-pcmccia-modules-: command not found"17:12
DarkTanwhat should i try next Agent_bob?17:13
Agent_bob!nv | roldyx driver maybe ?17:13
ubotturoldyx driver maybe ?: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto17:13
Agent_bobDarkTan you enter what i said.     uname -r    to see the kernel version      you want the package  kernel-pcmcia-modules-`uname -r`  <<< that is not a command it's a package name.    the command would be something like   sudo apt-get install kernel-pcmcia-modules-`uname -r`17:15
Agent_bobbut the apt-get command will not work if you are not networked so youll have to first get the package and make it local then use   sudo dpkg -i kernel-pcmcia-modules-`uname -r`    in the same dir with the package or supply the path to it.17:16
DarkTanok, kernel is 2.6.24-19-generic17:17
rothow to make public_ftp17:17
Agent_bobthere ya go.   now visit the url   http://packages.ubuntu.com17:17
ubottuFTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd17:17
ubottuFTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd, MuddleFTPd, wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: PureAdmin, GProftpd (for GNOME), KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP17:18
DarkTanok, is this what i'm looking for? http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/pcmciautils17:18
Agent_bobrot but might i sujest  sshd + scp   more secure than ftp.17:19
Agent_bobDarkTan doesn't look like it.     do you have a *buntu box that is networked ?17:20
DarkTanit has no NIC17:20
DarkTani'm the only thing i have for it is the pcmcia card17:21
Agent_bobso you don't have ubuntu on anything else17:21
DarkTanno, not yet17:21
DarkTanafter i get this one down, i have a several boxes to do17:21
Agent_bobwould be most simple with one that is networked first   then you could use apt on that box to fetch packages for the others17:22
DarkTanhm...I didn't know i could do that17:22
DarkTani guess that will be tonight's project17:23
DarkTanthanks for the help thi17:24
shadowhywindis it safe to delete everything in the /tmp folder?17:24
Agent_bobexapmle; (+net) sudo apt-get -d install kernel-pcmcia-modules-2.6.24-19-generic ;cp /var/cache/apt/archives/* /mnt/usbstick     (-net)  sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/usbstick ;sudo dpkg -i /mnt/usbstick/*17:25
Agent_bobusing (net)  to indicate which box the command is on.17:25
Agent_boband using a usb stick to transfer the files17:26
Agent_bobanyway you can get the gest from that.17:26
Agent_bobshadowhywind sure.  if you are about to reboot17:27
Agent_bobshadowhywind tmp "should" be cleaned each boot time anyway.17:27
shadowhywindAgent_bob i just found that online, hehe17:27
shadowhywindI am doing a backup of my entire system.. I will remove tmp from that backup since it looks like it doesn't matter.. hehe17:28
Agent_bobshadowhywind use a switch to exclude  /dev /proc /sys /tmp17:28
Agent_bobbackup all the rest.17:29
mizipzor_could someone in here give me the pastebin link i posted a few minutes ago? lost it when i switched client :p17:29
shadowhywind\those 4 will be recreated on startup?17:29
Agent_bobshadowhywind three of those four are in ram.17:29
Agent_bobmizipzor_ same nick ?17:29
shadowhywindoh hehe17:30
mizipzor_Agent_bob: except underscore, yea17:30
Agent_bobyeah i dropped the underscore and found it.17:31
Agent_bob            ^17:31
shadowhywindand Agent_bob any ideas on why i am getting bzip2: Data integrity error when decompressing. errors when i try to un tar some of my backup files?17:31
Agent_bobmizipzor_   heh.   grep mizipzor IrcLog | grep http         maybe you should log your irc client  :)17:32
Agent_bobshadowhywind cause they are gzip rather than bzip2 format ?17:32
=== root is now known as Guest62766
Agent_bobtry -z rather than -j  on them17:33
shadowhywindusing sudo tar -cvjf ../disk/backup4.tar.bz2 <folderto tar> to tar.. and using sudo tar -xvjf backup4.tar.bz2   to untar17:33
Agent_bobor actually   you might try    tar -xf     it should decompress automagicly nowadays17:34
shadowhywindk, will give that a try and see what happens17:35
* Agent_bob seldom ever uses -v on a tarball no error means no error in linux...17:35
Agent_bobshadowhywind another tool you could use on that is    file backup4.tar.bz2      should tell you what compression it used.17:37
Agent_bobfile is as handy as a pocket on a shirt17:37
=== petros__ is now known as mmm
mmmhi all17:37
shadowhywindI will give that a shot on the next backup file, hehe17:37
mizipzor_Agent_bob: my client wasnt on at the time, hence the problem :)17:38
Agent_bobmizipzor_ problem solved.  happy camper.17:38
mizipzor_Agent_bob: thanks :)17:38
ville88anyone know a good program to record the desktop?17:38
kun-10i need help17:38
jonathan_i wan't to use a absolute path to a samba network pc in windows17:39
jonathan_just entering smb://workingplace/BOOT (C) don't work17:39
jonathan_what can i do to do this?17:39
kun-10Sound disappeared!!17:39
kun-10 smb://workingplace/BOOT17:39
Agent_bobdoes smp now insert the third / like it should, or do you still need   smb:///blahblahblah17:40
kun-10anyone can help me17:40
jonathan_hm it don't work17:41
Agent_bob!sound | kun-10 if the wiki can't i probably can't17:41
ubottukun-10 if the wiki can't i probably can't: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP317:41
kun-10i have Kubuntu17:41
mmmHow can i append automatically a pasword to the recovery kernel options?17:42
mmmin grub17:42
Agent_bobmmm does the grub howto cover that ?  i havent looked17:42
kun-10can you enter to my computer17:42
ubottugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto17:42
mmmimho it isn't tells about this but i check17:43
kun-10can you enter to my computer17:43
kun-10can you enter to my computer?17:43
kun-10can you enter to my computer to fix the problme?17:44
mmmyeah, it isn't tells about that17:44
Agent_bobmmm well i use lilo cause grub is too weak for my system, so i can't really help with that.  i know some of the basics of grub  but that's about it.    sorry.17:44
mmmokay, thanks17:44
kun-10can you enter to my computer to fix the problme?17:44
Agent_bobmaybe someone else. can17:44
Agent_bobkun-10 i'm not going to.  so the question can i is moot.    go to the page and follow it...  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting17:45
kun-10i go17:45
kun-10i do it17:46
Agent_bobit that doesn't get you there.   maybe someone else will step up to help in here.17:46
kun-10enter to my computer17:46
KarlaJHello! I am trying to install KUBUNTU, however, when clicking "install" the resolution gets HUGE, enormous and I cant see where to click.. Each letter is larger then half the screen17:47
jonathan_hm i still don't know how to access a samba-connected windows pc via a path in the konsole... :(17:47
kun-10can you enter to my computer17:47
Agent_bobKarlaJ does the screen scroll when you move the mouse to the edges ?17:48
KarlaJNo , i tried that, didnt work17:49
KarlaJTried to resize, didnt work either17:49
kun-10can you enter to my computer17:49
kun-10i will install fedroa 917:49
kun-10good luck17:49
Agent_bobk,  i had a thought,  but you shot it down before it left the ground17:49
kurulisto funciono muchas gracias.....17:50
KarlaJNoone of you ever had that problem?17:50
Agent_bobKarlaJ i have never seen anything like that. so don't know what to tell you.   if you have the bandwidth for it.  the "alternate install" iso should let you install with the old text style installer.17:51
ubottuUbuntu can be installed in a lot of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall. Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate17:51
KarlaJAgent_bob; Ok, is it on kubuntu/ubuntus webpage? I am new with linux17:51
KarlaJOk thanks17:51
=== tahir is now known as Captain-Splendid
=== mmm is now known as MetaMorfoziS
vilhelmhe jag har ett problem .. när jag går in i media-dolphin hittar jag inga enheter18:23
vilhelmoops sry18:24
vilhelmwrong channel18:24
vilhelmi have problem when i go into media dolphin i cant find any thing18:24
vilhelmcant find my disks18:25
Agent_bobnot in disks group ?18:27
sigma_zafinally... a qt firefox18:27
untiledyou put /media or system:/media/  ??18:28
vilhelmAgent -bob nope18:28
=== fabien_ is now known as gambix
=== gambix is now known as germbix
Agent_bobuntiled what happens when you put   media:/   in the location bar of dolphin ?18:29
=== germbix is now known as gambix
untilednot media: but system:/media/18:29
untiledit show your psichical disk (partition, pen disk, floppy)18:30
mni sudo apt-get installed firefox3 in kubuntu. how can i run it without typing exec firefox in konsole?18:30
Agent_bobvilhelm    koncole command    mount    #will show what is mounted and where.   or  df -h        and  sudo fdisk -l   # will list hdd partitions   as will   cat /proc/partitions18:31
untiledmn you can't find on k menu>internet?18:31
Agent_bobuntiled that assumes that your user can access them   no?18:31
mnuntitled, where? (i just got kubuntu today)18:32
untiledagent_bob yes, i can see it18:32
Agent_bobmn  kmenu > internet > firefox18:33
anjosopa algum Brasil ai?18:33
mnim in KDE 4. on my menu all i have is favorites, applications, computer, recently used, and leave18:33
ubottuPor favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt por ajuda em português. Obrigado.18:33
Agent_bobmn  hmmm   kde4 channel is   #kubuntu-kde418:34
mn... ok18:34
untiledwhat mean "/bin/sh is needed by VMware-server-1.0.6-91891.i386"? i esc when i try to install vmware via rpm18:36
mnif i apt-get ubuntu-desktop, how can i switch between kde and gnome?18:37
untiledmn on log in screen there is a menu in wich you can choose desktop18:38
mnmk thx18:38
Agent_bobuntiled rpm ?    rpm is redhat package manager18:39
=== matthias__ is now known as klempo
Agent_bobubuntu is a debian dirivative and uses   dpkg = the Debian PacKage Manager18:40
untiledagent_bob sudo apt-get install rpm and you can use it, is in official repository18:40
untiledi can istall software from deb and rpm18:41
Agent_bobbut it obviously breaks things.   /bin/sh is a symlink to either /bin/dash or /bin/bash18:41
Agent_bobor a custom shell if manually set up18:42
brad__anyone know how I can allow other boxes to redirect though ssh connections that are comming in ?18:42
untiledagent_bob: so i have to dowload tar.gz (sources) or i can use rpm?18:42
Agent_bobbrad__ redirrect ?    routing table stuff ?18:43
brad__no ssh -R18:43
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about vmware-server18:43
ubottuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player", only for Feisty and Edgy), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. Instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers18:43
brad__from my other location I issue a ssh -R 515:printer:515, I can access it, but no no else on my lan can18:44
Agent_bobbrad__ i don't know.      someone else may.18:44
ubottuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (a recent version for !Dapper is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash18:45
untiledubottu: ok, i'll try it, thank you18:45
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)18:45
untiledah, i'ts a bot xD18:46
starenkaHi been connected to my other kubuntu mashine via ssh and accidentaly run "sudo kate file". After restarting the comp i got KDE error saying smthng about not having write permissions to ~/.ICEauthority file. i Changed the owner to user and chmoded it to 777 via safe konsole, but i cant get kde working.. it just hangs with wallpaper and does nothing. any clues?18:46
ForgeAusuh... starenka18:46
ForgeAusyou need to change the user not just the perms18:46
ForgeAusor delete the file completely18:46
Agent_bobstarenka own your home18:47
ForgeAusso chown18:47
starenkai did both18:47
starenkait's set to starenka and it is 77718:47
starenkait's safe to delete?18:47
Agent_bobstarenka own your home.     sudo chown -R $HOME18:47
ForgeAusbut I found deleting the file completely to be difficult18:47
Agent_boband yes it's safe to delete it18:47
ForgeAusreally? I had that problem all I needed to do was set it to my user in the end18:47
ForgeAusagentbob how to delete it when you have no permissions to use it?18:48
starenkadelete as root?18:48
ForgeAusno way to log in18:48
ForgeAusstarenka that didn't even work for me when I tried18:48
ForgeAusbut good luck, it might for you18:48
ForgeAus(was like it had my disk open in readonly)18:49
starenkaok so i have to chown ~ and it will be okay18:49
Agent_bobor    rm users/home/dir/.*auth*18:49
ForgeAusthats what it was in my case Starenka ..18:49
Agent_boband you can log in to a console.18:49
Agent_bobalt+ctrl+f1  login and do what needs done.    exit and alt+f718:50
starenkai wasn't but after chowning and 777ing i can at least resart x and get to console18:50
Agent_bobusing xorg to get to a console    pfft !18:50
Agent_bobxorg runs in a console.      you have the tail wagging the dog18:51
Agent_bobtty7 by default18:51
starenkayeye.. i'm a n00b, but i get to the "finish" my way :))18:52
vilhelmAgen_bob now i can find my disks but when i enter my NTFS disk it says something like the systempolicy cant allow mounting intern devices18:52
Agent_bob!ntfs | vilhelm18:52
ubottuvilhelm: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE18:52
starenkaso i did 'sudo chown -R starenka:starenka /home/starenka'18:54
starenkahope it helps18:54
starenkafok it's the same thing18:54
starenkaa cursos and blank screen :(18:54
ForgeAusblank screen?18:54
ForgeAusno message about .ICEauthority?18:54
starenkano some color (blue) and no message18:55
Agent_bob"there's a pretty sizable knowledge base of writen information on the interweb,  i just always seem to be asking the wrong questions..." -- _218:55
ForgeAusand no kde? :(18:55
starenkanow after a while something pops up18:56
starenkaseems like it can't connect to dcop server18:56
ForgeAushehe agentbob I know that dilemma18:56
ForgeAusall too well18:56
ForgeAusstarenka uh I don't know anything about how to fix that one18:56
ForgeAusI also tend to come away from reading a manpage more confused than when I started...18:57
starenkahehe so true18:57
ForgeAus(by the time I get to what I'm looking for I've usually forgotten what it is anyway!)18:57
starenkaany clues?18:58
Agent_bobForgeAus i resemble that remark18:58
ForgeAuslike I always say (the Aus part of my nick is to signify Australia so pretend it isn't there for now) a t on the end of my nickname suits me way better than an ry ever could :)18:59
Agent_bobstarenka  maybe    rm users/home/dir/.*auth*19:00
Agent_bobForgeAus :)19:00
starenkaAgent_bob: thanx... but removing the .ICE authority files seemed to help. well i've seen a piece of kde and compiz splash starting and then the screen turned black19:02
starenkaAgent_bob: ok will try your one as well19:02
Agent_bobstarenka heh.   :)19:03
=== thumper_laptop is now known as thumper
Agent_bobstarenka not very familear with wildcards eh ?19:04
* Dark`Star sta ascoltando Corporation Pull In di Terrorizer tratta da World Downfall. (3:05)19:04
starenkaAgent_bob: yes i'm but i thought it was just those 3 files so i did it "manully". nevermind... the black screen continues19:04
Agent_bobstarenka what file did you edit as root ?19:05
Agent_bobmaybe you messed on that file ?19:05
starenkawelcome message to proftpd19:05
Agent_bobor messed up   even19:05
Agent_bobhmm that should not have affected the DE19:06
Agent_bobyou must have broken something else.    check your xorg logs19:07
Agent_bobmaybe it was a kernel update that you forgot about19:07
Agent_bobor something along that line19:07
starenkanope... i have ...19 for ages19:07
starenkawell, all i changed today was proftpd cnfig file and the welcome msg19:08
Agent_bobcheck   ~/.xserver-errors    /var/log/Xorg*19:08
starenkaany clue on what to grep for?19:08
Agent_bob19 ?19:08
Agent_bobyes   grep  EE19:08
starenkayep... i don' remember the numbers the last number after last hyphen is 1919:09
Agent_bobls /boot    or  ls /lib/modules    will show the installed kernels19:09
starenkai dont have xserver-errors... does xserver-sessions suit?19:10
Agent_bobuname -r will show the running kernel19:10
starenkahidden file19:10
starenkano i dont have this file19:11
Agent_bobok.   well check the xorg log in var19:11
Agent_bobif you don't have that ...   "huston we have a problem!"19:11
starenkawhich one i should look in? i got Xorg.0|9|10.log19:14
Agent_boball    0 first19:14
starenka"EE" does grep only one line and it seems like a header19:15
starenka(WW) warning, (EE) error ....19:16
starenkai got something in 0.old19:17
Agent_bobgrep '(EE)' /var/log/Xorg.* | grep -v '(WW)'19:17
Agent_bobthat would skip the info on (??) messages19:17
starenkafglrx(0): [drm] failed to remove drm signal19:17
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about drm19:18
starenkayep it seems to have problem with display driver19:19
starenkawill try to reinstall the ati proprietary dirver, maybe it will fix that19:20
starenkabut i dont get how i get this error19:20
Agent_bob"drm == digital restrictions management   imposed upon the masses by the greed of a few."19:21
Agent_bobstarenka may i sujest.19:21
Agent_bob1. make a new account.    2. login to that account.    3. report whether that works or not.19:21
roldyxhello.. when I press ctrl-alt-f1 I obtain black screen.. why??19:21
roldyxI need use console19:22
Agent_bobthis will test whether it is in fact the issue you have found or if there is something still "hosed" in your home dir.19:22
HomeUbuntuUseranyone know is the "Creative Live Cam Video IM Pro", Vendor=041e ProdID=4055, still unsupported by (KUbuntu)linux?19:22
starenkaAgent_bob: ok, how i do this on konsole (</shame>)19:22
Agent_bobroldyx sounds like your vidio driver is not releasing vga=text=normal  mode19:23
roldyxAgent_bob: how do i repair it?19:23
Agent_bobstarenka sudo adduser name_here19:23
starenkaAgent_bob: useradd19:23
starenkashit too late :))19:23
Agent_bobstarenka use the python script.  it's easier on you.     adduser19:24
Agent_bob!nv | roldyx install the proprietary driver maybe19:24
ubotturoldyx install the proprietary driver maybe: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto19:24
Agent_bobroldyx only time i ever had that issue was using vesa driver with ati card19:25
roldyxAgent_bob: I am using propietary driver19:25
starenkaAgent_bob: yep nre user is ok19:25
paoloI want to make a fresh kubuntu install with kde4.1. Using 8.04 spin CD is enough?19:25
roldyxwith nv driver work perceftly19:25
roldyxnow I am using nvidia19:26
starenkaAgent_bob: any clue how to get to know whats wrong w/ the original account?19:26
Agent_bobit couldn't handle switiching to/from text mode roldyx,  if that's not the issue there.  idk.    eitherr way.  use or don't use propiretary   one of them should fix it.19:27
=== fernando is now known as Guest52710
Agent_bobstarenka i would copy out anything you have saved there and clean house.  but there are other ways.    you could  rm most of the ~/.?*    stuff.   and even   .kde  but you lose settings that way.   still it would probably clear up the issue.       you did   sudo chown $USER -R $HOME    didn't you ?19:28
Agent_bobdidn't you ?19:29
Agent_bobyou did, did you not ?19:29
Agent_bobsay you did...19:30
Agent_bobi think we lost him...   ;/19:30
starenkaAgent_bob: yep well i did 'sudo chown starenka ~'19:30
starenkait should stay for the same, isnt it?19:31
Agent_bobstarenka that was as the user "starenka"  ?19:31
Agent_bobyeah.   no.   -R19:31
Agent_bobhas to have -R19:31
starenkayes i did19:31
starenkais just forget to write19:31
Agent_bobi like using the variables because they will always expand correctly.    "or should always"19:32
Agent_bobsudo chown $USER -R $HOME19:33
starenkai got it19:33
starenkaok well i dont store anything in ~, but i don't wanna loose all my kde setting - taht was the point :))19:33
ForgeAusstarenka do an ls -al on the file19:33
ForgeAusie ls -al .ICE*19:33
ForgeAusit will tell you there what the perms and owner is19:34
starenkai;ve deleted those19:34
starenkabut before it was owned by root19:34
Agent_bobForgeAus it's not ICEauth anymore. it's now dcop19:34
starenkaand it wos readonlu to root19:34
chrisinajarhi there, so i did apt-get install libqt4-debug, then ran gdb with an application linked to qt4, and it didn't load the debug symbols...19:34
starenkathen i changed it to starenka:statrenka and 77719:34
chrisinajari asked in #qt, and they said to come here to ask how to make it work...19:35
ForgeAusinteresting christinajar, I'm not sure why here is where they sent you!19:35
starenkaokay thanx for help. gotta go now... will just use the other usser account and try to merge the config files somegow19:35
ForgeAusgood luck starenka19:36
=== Guest52710 is now known as fpetrola
Agent_bobchrisinajar i'm going to venture a guess here.    start the qt app with --debug  switch applied maybe ?19:36
oomph_workwhich kubunut should i download? remix?19:36
chrisinajarI'm anylizing a core file19:36
ForgeAusoomph sure :) if you want kde4.119:36
oomph_workwhat would you suggest?19:37
Agent_boboomph_work kinda depends on what you want from the disk19:37
ForgeAus(I think the currend default - non -remix - is still kde3.5.9)19:37
oomph_worki want compiz19:37
oomph_workthats about it19:37
mnim on the remix. i like it19:37
ForgeAuswell no point in kde4 if you want compiz19:38
ForgeAuswell maybe I shaould have said it as: you don't need compiz with kde419:38
Agent_boboomph_work then i would sujest the normal19:38
ForgeAusyou can use it that way if you want... but I don't recommend doing so19:38
oomph_workwhich is better compiz on 3.5.9 or KDE4?19:38
Agent_boboomph_work if you want kde4 desktop effects  then the remix   that's the whole point.19:39
ForgeAus(ie compiz --replace instead of kwin --replace)19:39
ubottuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness from KMenu -> System -> Desktop Effects - further help in #compiz-fusion19:39
ForgeAusuh compiz is no better or worse on kde3.5.9 as it is on kde419:39
ubottuKDE 4.1.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. Packages can be found at  http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1 - Support in #kubuntu-kde419:39
ForgeAusits just more fitting with kde3.5.9 since it doesn't have composite effects built in to kwin like kde4.x does19:39
oomph_workyeah, i just want the cube effects19:40
oomph_workand what not19:40
Agent_bobForgeAus and that kde4 is still lacking some things.19:40
ForgeAuswell cube works in either19:40
ForgeAusbut you still need to replace kwin with compiz either way19:40
ForgeAusagentbob I agree19:40
ForgeAusimho kde3.5.9 is still > than kde4.x19:41
Agent_bobso if you are shooting for compiz   i reccomend kde319:41
Fieldystrongly agree19:41
ForgeAusnot that kde4 is a bad thing, its very nice in many ways..19:41
ForgeAusyes it makes more sense to go kde3 if you want compiz19:41
oomph_workwhich is more stable?19:41
=== Timmy is now known as TimS
Agent_bobif you want effects and don't care whether they are compiz or kde4   i sujest remix19:41
ForgeAus(which means non-remix)19:41
ForgeAus3 is definitely more stable19:42
oomph_workthanks for the feedback19:43
Agent_boboomph_work and ffr    pools are not reall welcome in help channels  :)19:43
ForgeAus(its a way more mature desktop kde4 is relatively new)19:43
ganymedehello, i just installed ktorrent-kde4, now how do i start it? i tried typing in ktorrent into a shell but the command was not found, and suggests to install ktorrent instead, which i assume is the kde 3 version19:44
ForgeAusganymede there should be a menu option to run ktorrent in the kmenu19:44
ForgeAusapt installs them into there19:44
ForgeAus(I'm not personally sure what the commandline to run it is)19:45
jegelierobotgeek: hi again19:46
ganymedeForgeAus: i'm using ubuntu desktop, but i have installed ktorrent for kde4. shouldn't i still be able to access it without having installed the kde desktop?19:46
Agent_bobthere used to be cute little infonodes about polling what's best.    !start_an_editor_war  !startawar   start a desktop war.... and so on.   the bot would choose some randomly picked editor or desktop or ...  and post   "emacs is better than vim"   kind of things...      the intent is to point out that "best" is not applicable in most questions.19:46
ForgeAusganymede your using ubuntu instead of kde?... um ask in #KDE maybe they will know, you might need more of KDE4 for it to work?... I'm not sure about kde4 under gnome19:46
Agent_bobit's a matter of choice.19:46
Agent_bobi'm out for a bit.19:47
Agent_bobForgeAus it's all yours  :)))19:47
ForgeAuslol mine? uh who said I wanted it?19:47
jegelieanyone knows how to get GRUB2 while on a LiveCD Kubuntu?19:47
ForgeAusjegelie, um apt-get install grub2 ?19:48
roldyx_I have this problem..19:48
ForgeAussorry wait, you need a sudo first19:48
roldyx_Aug 13 13:02:20 tubarao kernel: [97737.926546] klauncher[5985]: segfault at 00000095 eip b753cee7 esp bfceb590 error 419:48
jegelieForgeAus: nope didn't work19:48
ForgeAussudo apt-get install grub219:48
jegelieForgeAus: nope19:48
roldyx_kde freeze19:48
ForgeAusjegelie, yeah well it doesn't make much sense to anyway19:49
ForgeAusyou want to be in your non-live cd to update grub anyway right?19:49
jegelieForgeAus: why is that?19:49
ganymedeForgeAus: okay, thanks for the advice19:49
ForgeAussory I couldn't help you more ganymede19:49
jegelieForgeAus: I want to make a Firewire drive bootable with Kubuntu Hardy on my intel iMac... <shrug>19:49
ForgeAusits just that that is beyond me19:49
ForgeAusand grub doesn't have that it needs grub2?19:50
ForgeAusor that you need to install a working boot manager onto it from the live cd so that it will work?19:50
jegelieForgeAus: robotgeek put me on the trail of grub2; it can cope with EFI bootloaders et al.19:51
ForgeAusyes EFI is part of grub219:51
ForgeAusor available anyway19:51
jegelieForgeAus: the standard out-of-the-box grub on the Kubuntu install didn't work19:51
ForgeAusum the #Grub2 people will know how to set up grub2, but getting it from a kubuntu liveCD to your bootable drive may not be their thing??? I don't know it might be worth an ask there anyway19:52
ForgeAusjegelie yeah I understand...19:52
ForgeAusum sorry #grub19:52
ForgeAusthats the channel for Grub/Grub2 info19:52
ForgeAusjust instaling it by apt-get will try to install it as your liveCD boot manager, which isn't what you want19:53
jegelieForgeAus: but I'm also suspecting it is the init-what's-its-name thingy that can't fire up a firewire drive... no firewire drivers in it.19:53
ForgeAusinit-waht'sitsname-thingy? uh I'm not sure what your talkinga bout there19:54
jegelieForgeAus: that's the one.19:54
ForgeAusthats part of the kernel it needs to boot before it gets there...19:54
ganymedeForgeAus: okay, in case you're wondering, the answer is that it wasn't in my path, i had to type out  /usr/lib/kde4/bin/ktorrent (which also seems like an unlikely location)19:54
ganymedei guess some other package adds kde4's bins to the path19:54
ForgeAusganymede fair enough...19:54
ForgeAuswell normally it installs them into the kmenu you don't need to worry about the path19:55
jegelieForgeAus: so if grub (grub1) CAN load the initrd, but that one can't go any further, I'm stuck...19:55
ForgeAusbut since your not using kde then it won't do that19:55
ForgeAus(unless theres a gnome app to add a kmenu to your panel)19:55
ForgeAus(one that is dynamic... )19:55
ForgeAusI've never checked to know if such a thing exists19:55
ForgeAus(I know theres a static version of a gnome menu item for Kmenu however hehe)19:56
ForgeAusgnome-apps.org might have one if your lucky, but I can't promise because I don't know...19:56
* ganymede has never ever used menu, always prefers to use alt+f2 and type in whatever i want to start, including nautilus ~19:57
ForgeAusthe other option you chould have had is if you installed the rest of kde4 which you didn't want to do (to get it in the kmenu when you started with the kde desktop)19:57
ForgeAusreally? well I'm not so much of a cli guru here19:57
ForgeAusI prefer gui ways where possible19:57
jegelieForgeAus: ...(thinking out loud) but I think grub is the culprit, since I get errors about "legacy loader" and "load options 'USB'"19:57
ForgeAusbtw... theres a find command if you want to find a path19:57
ForgeAusjegelie makes sense19:58
ForgeAusyou still need to place grub2 somehow on the device, (you can probably just if you know what your doing use the dd command to place the mbr on the device)19:58
jegelieForgeAus: I tried building GRUB2 from SVN repository, but somehow the gcc can't make binaries in the LiveCD19:59
ForgeAusbut people in #Grub are more likely to be able to help you19:59
ForgeAusjegelie it might be because the liveCD doesn't have the headers, but again that won't help19:59
ForgeAusyou don't nee to install it to the liveCD you need to install it to the device instead19:59
jegelieForgeAus: ...but regarding building or getting an app in Kubuntu would best be asked here :)20:00
ForgeAusgrub has several components, a loader which goes in the mbr (bootsectore) of the device, and the files in /boot/grub that it installs20:00
jegelieForgeAus: yes - but in order to install it, I have to run it... And since I'm not able to build it on mac, or to boot from my Kubuntu HDD...20:00
ForgeAusjegelie normally yes... but then normally all you need to do is apt-get install it20:00
ForgeAusjegelie its a special case here20:01
jegelieForgeAus: and there you go - I tried that, but apt-get said it wasn't there. Only another package that depends on it, but not hte thing itself...20:01
ForgeAusits not just getting and installing the app, like I said installing grub using apt-get will try to change the grub of the liveCD that your currently running, ie the CD's grub not the device you want it to go to...20:01
ForgeAusuh grub2 is in the repo's somehwere20:02
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about grub220:02
ForgeAus!info grub220:02
ubottugrub2 (source: grub2): GRand Unified Bootloader, version 2 (dummy package). In component universe, is extra. Version 1.96+20080203-1ubuntu2 (hardy), package size 3 kB, installed size 88 kB (Only available for i386 kfreebsd-i386 hurd-i386 amd64 kfreebsd-amd64 powerpc ppc64)20:02
ForgeAusthere we go...20:02
ForgeAusso you need the universe repository enabled20:02
jegelieForgeAus: you sense my next question?20:03
jegelieForgeAus: how do I do that?20:03
ubottuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories20:03
ForgeAusuh you don't from where you are, you copy and install grub2 from the grub's project20:04
ForgeAusI still recommend you go to #Grub and ask there20:04
ForgeAustrappist that won't help20:04
ForgeAusit will perhaps download the grub2.deb and its dependancies...20:04
ForgeAusbut its a liveCD and it makes no sense to install grub2 to a liveCD20:04
jegelieForgeAus: no I know, but from there I can manually run grub2, and from its CLI I can do a setup to whatever device and partition I choose.20:05
ForgeAusjegelie you can try it, but I don't think it can change the grub you have (since its cdrw)20:06
enauthow can i find out what app is blocking my sound? simple konsole command will do...20:06
ForgeAusyou also need a sudo apt-get update20:07
ForgeAus(after modifying your sources.list file to include the universe repo)20:07
jegelieForgeAus: a little reading: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows20:07
ForgeAusthe easier way to add universe is to run adept and change it there...20:07
ForgeAusI'm aware of that geglie20:07
ForgeAusbut right now your using grub (legacy) and that isn't going to work20:07
jegelieForgeAus: so next boot I will try that.20:08
ForgeAusand I'm not sure installing grub2 with apt-get will actually give you grub220:08
ForgeAusno next boot from a LiveCD = same as previous boot from LiveCD20:08
ForgeAussince nothing on the CD changes20:08
ForgeAus(if any changes to grub happen at all during the LiveCD session they happen in ram)20:08
jegelieForgeAus: I know :) but there I can try to get grub2 and do a setup on my HDD20:09
jegelieI'm now on my OS X20:09
ForgeAushehe :) kewl20:09
jegelieForgeAus: OS X gcc won't let me build grub220:09
ForgeAusthats probalby why you needed EFI20:09
jegelieForgeAus: yes it is - and believe me, it is a PITA to get it working.20:10
=== erwin__ is now known as vaiursch
ForgeAusyes it would seem so20:10
ForgeAusI have no personal experience with it but it does seem to create a few, issues20:10
jegelieForgeAus: I'm figuring it out for over four days now - at cost of precious time with my kids20:10
ForgeAus(not that it doesn't work, its just... got issues)20:10
ForgeAusjegelie, good luck...20:11
jegelieForgeAus: Darn frustrating to read about people who got it working, but not being able to reproduce the steps over here.20:11
mnhow can i set up an account for kopete?20:11
ForgeAusjegelie I'm sure it CAN work, its just not so easy to actually DO thats all20:12
ForgeAusand I'm fairly inexperienced at actually doing it... so I'm little help personally20:12
jegelieForgeAus: it is all about how far are you willing to go through with it :)20:12
ForgeAusmn uh kde3 or 4?... theres an option to add accounts...20:13
jegelieForgeAus: never mind, you've been very helpful. I have a new thing to try20:13
mn4. i didnt think that would effect this though? should i go to the kubuntu kde4 channel?20:13
jegelieWell, there we go again; booting LiveCD. Bye!20:14
ForgeAusthanx :)... glad I could be of some kind of service then20:14
ForgeAusuh depends on if theres any chagnes in kde4's kopete I know it doesn't have IRC currently in kde420:14
rothow the php5 is not working on my serever20:15
ForgeAusbrb running it myself20:15
ForgeAus(the kde3 one)20:15
ganymedehello, i'm very new to ubuntu, i've just installed ktorrent-kde4 to discover that it is from kde 4.0.3. i was under the impression that ubuntu is a frequently updated distro with always the newest packages, so i was wondering if there is a simple way to install kde 4.1 with ubuntu's native package manager, not installing debs manually20:16
ForgeAushehe on first run kopete comes up with a welcoming screen asking you to add accounts lol20:16
ForgeAushey ganymede... um the pacakage manager is synaptic for ubuntu20:17
ganymedei haven't run into any issues with 4.0.3 yet, but i understand that it is quite outdated as kde is developing quickly, so i would like to upgrade now before i actually run into a missing feature or bug20:17
ForgeAusuh go to #kubuntu-kde4 (the title there has a link for you)20:17
mnLol apperantly it is different then20:17
ganymedeForgeAus: thanks again20:17
ForgeAusuh ganymede one thing tho20:18
ForgeAusI think its a download to the entire distribution of kubuntu with kde4.1 (remix)20:18
ForgeAusits not just kde4.1 itself20:18
ForgeAusthat I could find anyhow20:18
ForgeAusanyway mn is there a settings menu?20:18
ForgeAusin there configure kopete, and click new20:19
ForgeAusthts how it works in kde3.5.x20:19
ganymedeForgeAus: it looks like i found a repo that has 4.1.0 packages, deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu hardy main, but i'm still taking a look at it20:19
ForgeAusyup that sounds good too20:20
ForgeAus(I've seen that one myself)20:20
ForgeAusbut I wasn't sure if it had kde4.1 or just still kde4.0.x20:20
mncool, thanks ForgeAus, the configure thing worked20:20
ForgeAusmn of course it did :)...20:21
* ForgeAus chuckles20:21
=== freaky[t] is now known as fReAkY[t]
TheMaxzillaCan someone help me for a sec? I made a launcher, and the code is:20:25
TheMaxzillagksudo "gnome-open %u"20:25
TheMaxzillaHow would this be in Kubuntu language?20:26
TheMaxzillakdesudo "kde-open %u"   ?20:26
=== fReAkY[t] is now known as freaky[t]
TheMaxzillano, it would be kdesu, right?20:26
carib909Problem setting up Samba please see http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/37511/  "sudo smbpasswd -L -a your_username" does not work.20:31
carib909Anyone familiar with Samba?20:34
carib909Anybody know how to setup Samba?20:39
ElectricKetchupI can setup samba, but can't get it to do what I want20:40
carib909does the sudo smbpasswd -L -a your_username work for you?20:40
carib909Anybody got Samba working?20:41
Carroarmato0flaccid, yo20:45
rotI have prioblem20:46
rotERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)20:46
AzzcoHi, how do I add icons to programs?20:46
Carroarmato0flaccid, still no responce to the security bug report....20:46
robot_jesushow do I associate file types with a program, alternatives ?20:46
robot_jesushow do I associate file types with a program, alternatives ?  -- why is it so dead in here theres 324 people20:51
eloquencei'm having issues trying to open the ntfs partition of an external usb drive20:51
zabbadapprobot_jesus: right-click on a file in dolphin file manager, select "properties", click on the small button/icon in the windows (next to "Type:") ..  a new window with "Edit file type" appear.... OR: right-click on a file and select "open with ->" ... and then "other..." .. and select an application and "Remeber app assoc for this type of file"20:51
Carroarmato0flaccid, I've set the Status of the bug as *Confirmed*, maybe that'll draw some attention. I really can't believe that this, even being a security bug, hsn't had any attention untill now.20:51
eloquencemost ppl just idle in here and only speak if they have a problem20:51
zabbadapprobot_jesus: (for KDE 3.5)20:52
robot_jesuszabbadapp: I dont have dolphin, can this be done from the command line ?  I'm actually using icewm20:52
eloquenceanybody know why i am unable to mount my external ntfs partition? i have an internal ntfs partition that works just fine and external fat32s which load just fine20:55
Azzcoeloquence: maybe it wasn't unmounted properly?20:56
zabbadappyou want to assoc a commandline program with extensions when you tab complete? like mplayer <tab> only show .avi/.mpg/and so on ?20:56
eloquencehow do i fix the problem then?20:56
Carroarmato0eloquence, I assume you're using windows on that ntfs partition....?20:56
Azzcoeloquence: My friend had that problem with a internal ntfs drive. We only booted up windows to shut it down again. Maybe you could try mounting the drive in a windows system and unmount it properly there?20:57
eloquenceno i am not20:57
eloquenceit's an external drive20:57
Azzcoeloquence: Try mounting and unmounting on a windows system.20:57
eloquencei use windows on my internal ntfs but it's been months since i was on it20:57
AzzcoAt least it's worth a shoot right ;)20:57
eloquenceyou know maybe it was from when i mounted it on a windows xp virtual machine in virtualbox20:58
Carroarmato0eloquence, yeah what Azzco said: most people get this problem because windows hasn't been shutdown properly, a bootup and clean shutdown fixes this20:58
Carroarmato0eloquence, yeah that probably caused it20:58
eloquenceso should i start the vm mount it and unmount it?20:59
Carroarmato0eloquence,  yes, so far I guess the only thing that can remount it cleanly is windows in your vm20:59
Azzcoeloquence: I'm not sure about the virtualbox usb (I'm guessing it's a usb drive) support but in most cases you need the usb device to run properly on the host os21:00
mizipzor_is there a kde alternative to gparted?21:00
Azzcoqtparted, but gparted is more stable21:00
mizipzor_im installing gparted then21:01
ForgeAusmaxzilla if your still there kdesu kdesudo they're synonymous (one is a wrapper for the other)21:05
BenPa85can someone tell me how I can make a share via console?21:07
BenPa85because the graphical interface of kde4 doesn't work atm ...21:07
AzzcoMake a share?21:08
BenPa85network share21:08
BenPa85I want to enable a windows pc to access a folder on my kubuntu notebook21:09
BenPa85but the ui for network shares doesn't work ..21:09
ForgeAussamba share21:09
* ForgeAus shrugs21:09
BenPa85k, is samba a special program, or is it installed by default?21:10
yuri_ahh prefiro rock21:10
ForgeAussamba is windows' sharing protocol essentially21:10
BenPa85ah ok thanks :)21:10
ForgeAusthe ui controls samba21:10
ForgeAus(so if you don't have samba-common it won't work)21:11
BenPa85so, first thing is to check if samba is installed ^^21:11
ForgeAusits mostly just a text file in /etc somewhere from memory, a pain to do manually21:12
BenPa85k samba-common is installed21:12
ForgeAusI think it might even be a dependancy of the distro these days not entirely sure21:12
BenPa85i've found a post were it's described as bug ...21:12
ForgeAuswell then I'm not sure I can help you since I don't know about how kde4 and samba relate, i havn't even used kde3's stuff for samba but I'd gather that at least works21:13
BenPa85ok, can you tell me how I can enable the share from terminal?21:13
BenPa85ah ok, thx :)21:13
ForgeAusunfortunately no21:13
ForgeAusif samba has a manpage ???21:14
BenPa85ok I'll check this :)21:14
BenPa85thank you21:14
ForgeAusI know you use smb:/ in konqi :)21:14
HighHo!samba | BenPa8521:15
ubottuBenPa85: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.21:15
BenPa85ah ok, thank you21:16
HighHoMight help, havent checked personally :)21:16
BenPa85will use the time to read those infos :)21:16
BenPa85thank you ...21:16
ForgeAushmmm maybe it was a samba-server package instead of samba-common?... I just thought of that!21:17
ForgeAussamba-common is probably installed so you can connect to samba shares not serve them! lol21:18
HighHohe's gone21:18
ForgeAusanyway, the sites from ubottu should tell him21:18
ForgeAus(I know HighHo21:19
ForgeAusI was speaking... rhetorically as it were...21:19
ForgeAustheres an element of irony when something comes to mind just after it would have been useful don't you think?21:19
HighHosure he will be back if ensure, but i would think the samba-server package might be installed as a dep anyway (or part of a meta package)21:22
=== luca is now known as luca86
=== luca86 is now known as luca314159
* ForgeAus shrugs21:25
ForgeAusI know doing it manually with the config file (in /etc/ somewhere) is a pain21:26
=== miguel is now known as Guest27957
=== Guest27957 is now known as miguel_
=== C3787757 is now known as chalcedony
=== miguel_ is now known as Guest40611
chalcedonyGuest40611: hi21:35
george__hello i just installed kubuntu 8.04 x64 with kde4 im having problems setting up my network connection21:54
george__when i try to set up my connection manually i get the error kcmshell (kdelibs): WARNING: Could not find module 'kcm_knetworkconfmodule'21:55
=== wesley is now known as profoX-Akademy
=== davide is now known as davide_
jeb__i got some problems with adept_manager22:14
jeb__(or apt)22:14
jeb__adept crashed during the install of sun-java6-plugin22:14
jeb__now I can't install it any more22:14
jeb__cause an error occours always22:14
DreadKnightjeb__: fire konsole; sudo apt-get install -f22:14
=== karlaj is now known as Bambo
jeb__doesn't work22:15
jeb__I ran apt with sudo apt-get install -f sun-java6-plugin22:15
jeb__but without the package it seems to work...22:15
jeb__hej great22:16
jeb__thx alot22:16
ForgeAusdoes anyone know anything about freevo?22:18
israeinen wunderschönen öhm kann mir einer sgaen welche pakete ich installieren muss dasmit ich alle widgets unter kde4 bekomme hab schon bei googel nachgesehen aber da find ich nix22:22
mefisto__!de | isra22:23
ubottuisra: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de22:23
mefisto__no problem22:24
NutzebahnHello. Could someone recommend a good alternative to C++ Builder which has a form designer?22:34
Serega__Nutzebahn: qt-designer22:35
Serega__but it is far from the Builder22:35
Serega__qt-designer + kdevelop22:36
Serega__sorry, have to go22:36
WalzmynWhat does kubuntu use for a firewall - or how do i fiddle with the firewall?23:00
=== wesley_ is now known as profoX-Akademy
HighHo!firewall | Walzmyn23:04
ubottuWalzmyn: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).23:04
Walzmynthank you HighHo23:05
HighHoWalzmyn: Your welcome :)23:05
=== kiko_ is now known as asdf
=== asdf is now known as Guest53916
=== Tizz_ is now known as Tizz
=== pascalFR is now known as PascalFR
=== JanMalte_ is now known as JanMalte
robot_jesushow do I copy something to the clipbboard from the command line23:28
muuseltDoes Kubuntu use KDE4 now23:38
muuseltI got mine awhile ago23:38

Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!