[00:01] <ActionParsnip> mefisto__:
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> http://www.osalt.com/publisher
[00:02] <mefisto__> I've seen that
[00:03] <mefisto__> I've never used publisher, don't know which is most similar, scribus or openoffice draw
[00:03] <ActionParsnip> mefisto__: why do you want it if you dont use it?
[00:03] <chris_> window$ $uck$
[00:04] <mortici> yes we know......
[00:04] <Alex135> did you really need to tel us that? hehe
[00:04] <mortici> lol Alex135
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> chris_: it has its advantages
[00:04] <Alex135> tell*
[00:04] <mortici> anyone familiar with w3m?
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> !w3m
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> !info w3m
[00:05] <mortici> yes yes i know :)
[00:05] <mortici> i was just wondering how do i get it to display images :D
[00:05] <Alex135> i have never heard of it....
[00:05] <mortici> i run it with w3m -v -cookie image <url> but fails to load images....
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> mortici: http://osdir.com/ml/emacs.w3m/2002-06/msg00056.html
[00:06] <chris_> juventus fc fuck
[00:06] <mefisto__> ActionParsnip: I don't want publisher. I want to recommend a publisher user to switch to scribus or openoffice draw, but don't know which is most like publisher
[00:06] <mortici> ActionParsnip: thank you good sir
[00:06] <ActionParsnip> mefisto__: as you can see there are many. id let them try which they like and choose from there
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> mortici: np man
[00:07] <Alex135> mortici: no need to be so polite, we arn't that strict here, hehe
[00:08] <ActionParsnip> mefisto__: its a personal choice which you prfer
[00:08] <ActionParsnip> mefisto__: ms publisher might run through wine / cedega / crossover
[00:10] <Alex135> ActionParsnip: MS office crossover might do it
[00:10] <mefisto__> NO to publisher!!!
[00:10] <vilhelm> hello! I have an NTFS disk that I have music on but everytime I login and out my music players says that it cant find my mp3 files:( any solutions ?
[00:10] <ActionParsnip> Alex135: if it runs through wine its cheaper
[00:11] <ActionParsnip> vilhelm: have you mounted it?
[00:11] <Alex135> lol
[00:11] <vilhelm> I'm new to linux so i dont really know but i can always see the disk
[00:11] <mefisto__> I want something as close to publisher as possible, an easy transition
[00:12] <ActionParsnip> vilhelm: ok run sudo fdisk -l in konsole
[00:12] <vilhelm> ActionParsnip ok
[00:12] <ActionParsnip> what is the name of the partition
[00:12] <ActionParsnip> should be something like /dev/sdb
[00:12] <ActionParsnip> or similar
[00:13] <Alex135> vilhelm: a nother option is that your music player doesn't know where to look, what are you useing, Amarok?
[00:13] <vilhelm> yes i am using amarok
[00:14] <Alex135> vilhelm: were you able to listen to your music before on it?
[00:14] <vilhelm> i am still able to listen to the music after i have entered the disk
[00:15] <Alex135> but it doesn't show up automatically on amarok?
[00:15] <mefisto__> vilhelm: this will tell you what the partition is called: sudo fdisk -l | grep NTFS
[00:15] <vilhelm> dev/sda6
[00:15] <mefisto__> vilhelm: cat /etc/fstab
[00:15] <mortici> still no luck with images
[00:15] <mortici> but meh
[00:16] <mefisto__> is there a line with /dev/sda6 in it?
[00:16] <mortici> ill be satisfied with irssi for now ;D
[00:16] <vilhelm> mefisto yes
[00:17] <mefisto__> vilhelm: what is that line?
[00:17] <Alex135> vilhelm: is it that you want amarok to list your music automaticly? because if you can already listen to it and know how to get into the disk then its just a configuration in amarok that needs to happen.
[00:19] <ActionParsnip> vilhelm: id put the disk ni fstab so its automounted
[00:19] <vilhelm> Alex135 i can listen to the music easily on the disk but my amarok usually does not recognize the file locations directly after login in to Kubuntu
[00:19] <ActionParsnip> vilhelm: can you paste you /etc/fstab please
[00:19] <vilhelm> Action yes i thought about that
[00:19] <ActionParsnip> !paste vilhelm
[00:19] <ActionParsnip> !paste | vilhelm
[00:20] <emma> Which kubuntu application can open this stream -- http://lightningstream.surfernetwork.com/Media/player/scripts/player.aspx?call=ktrs
[00:20] <Alex135> you guys, he just wants amarok to automatically load his music... he just needs to set where the drive is located
[00:20] <Alex135> emma: kaffien
[00:21] <emma> Is that like the kubuntu version of totem?
[00:21] <emma> Alex135: were you able to open it?
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> Alex135: if the drive was automounted he could point he amarok to the disk to add to his library#
[00:21] <Alex135> emma: ya i just did it
[00:21] <Alex135> actionparsnip: i dont think he knows how to do that....
[00:21] <emma> You hear drums and them saying 'KTRS' ?
[00:21] <Alex135> emma: well i heard something about a skate park
[00:21] <vilhelm> well then i shall automount it
[00:22] <emma> Alex135: are you still listening?
[00:22] <Alex135> emma: i will be in a sec
[00:22] <emma> There was nothing in there about a skate park.
[00:22] <Alex135> emma: music.... drums and a guitar
[00:22] <vilhelm> now i have automounted it
[00:23] <Alex135> emma: oh wait...
[00:23] <emma> Did you hear them?
[00:23] <Alex135> emma: ya its the KTRS thing
[00:23] <Alex135> yes
[00:23] <emma> Okay thanks.
[00:23] <ActionParsnip> Alex135: thats why we're here
[00:24] <Alex135> ActionParsnip: well im just saying i think your going about it the hard way, he already knows how to mount the drive i think
[00:24] <Alex135> emma: i also have my programs customized with codecs though
[00:24] <Alex135> emma so im not really 100% sure if it will work perfectly for you
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> Alex135: if its automouned it'll be consistant every time
[00:24] <emma> Alex135: I see. I'm going to try installing kaffine
[00:25] <emma> kaffien that is.
[00:25] <vilhelm> it's automounted already
[00:25] <vilhelm> guess it works now :)
[00:25] <vilhelm> thx anyway lads :)
[00:25] <emma> Alex135: I have the w32codecs but Amarok did not open it.
[00:25] <Alex135> ActionParsnip: he just double clicks on the mp3's then re-selects them from the play list when he wants to play it, he never hade a library of music that amarok had made
[00:25] <Alex135> emma: erm.... ok you have mplayer installed?
[00:25] <mefisto__> emma: amarok is not very good at playing streams
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> Alex135: sounds like he has a library of music :)
[00:26] <emma> No I don't have mplayer installed yet either. I guess I'll get that too.
[00:26] <Alex135> ActionParsnip: but amarok isn't configured to know where it is, thats what he is wanting to find out how to make it work....
[00:26] <mefisto__> emma: you should have kaffeine already if you have installed kubuntu
[00:26] <Alex135> emma: install that and ill explain how to make the changes you need to make it all run
[00:27] <Alex135> emma: is that a Real Media stream?
[00:27] <emma> mefisto__: well I have Kubuntu Intrepid actually.
[00:27] <mefisto__> Alex135: aspx stream
[00:27] <emma> Alex - I think it's aspx
[00:27] <Alex135> emma: do you have the medibuntu repos installed?
[00:28] <emma> Alex135, no there are none for Intrepid yet, but I'm not here to make a fuss about that. I installed the w32codecs by hand.
[00:28] <Alex135> eema: what do you mean there are non, no repos? or no codecs
[00:29] <emma> There is no medibuntu repo for Intrepid that I'm aware of.
[00:29] <emma> I don't know if it is okay to add the medibuntu hardy repo to the sources.list in Intrepid or not.
[00:30] <Alex135> 1 sec
[00:30] <Alex135> ooh
[00:30] <Alex135> hmmm
[00:31] <Alex135> you can try it... if all else fails you can alwase remove it later
[00:31] <tsuna27> !compiz
[00:31] <mefisto__> emma: it seems there is medibuntu for intrepid: http://packages.medibuntu.org/dists/
[00:32] <emma> ahh
[00:32] <emma> okies..
[00:32] <tsuna27> how do i change my login screen
[00:32] <tsuna27> and does it matter that i am using compiz
[00:32] <vilhelm> kcontrol
[00:33] <tsuna27> where can i find that
[00:33] <Alex135> emma: alright ill tell you how to add the repos for the intrapid version in
[00:34] <mefisto__> tsuna27: kde3?
[00:34] <Alex135> just give me a sec to figure it out myself :P
[00:35] <tsuna27> kde4.1
[00:35] <mefisto__> emma: add this to /etc/apt/sources.list : deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ intrepid free non-free
[00:36] <Alex135> mefisto__: and i just did the work to figure it out... :P
[00:36] <mefisto__> sorry Alex135 :)
[00:36] <pulaski> hello Does anyone know how to install the gasp package?
[00:37] <ActionParsnip> !gas[
[00:37] <ActionParsnip> !gasp
[00:37] <ActionParsnip> !info gasp
[00:37] <Alex135> hehehe
[00:37] <Alex135> emma: you still there?
[00:38] <ActionParsnip> pulaski: what is gasp?
[00:39] <pulaski> ubuntulog:  hmmm I just had to reinstall hardy and I was abled to get the gasp-package via apt-get.  Has it be deprecated or something?
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> pulaski: ive never heard of it
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> pulaski: whats it do?
[00:41] <pulaski> ActionParsnip: it is the Graphics API for students of python
[00:42] <pulaski> ActionParsnip: https://launchpad.net/gasp
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> pulaski: try sudo apt-get install python-gasp
[00:44] <Alex135_> ActionParsnip: that wont work
[00:45] <Alex135_> ActionParsnip: there is no package related to gasp in the ubuntu repos
[00:45] <ActionParsnip> Alex135_: http://dc.ubuntu-us.org/projects/gasp/
[00:45] <ActionParsnip> Alex135_: you may need to add a repo
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> sudo apt-get install python-gasp sudo apt-get install python-gasp-lessons
[00:46] <Alex135_> ActionParsnip: ah, thats why.... nvm...
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> here are the repos
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> http://dc.ubuntu-us.org/archive/
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> amazing what a little wesearching churns up :D
[00:48] <Nutzebahn> Hello, when I try to install kde4 in Synaptic, I get this: http://pastebin.com/d676fdaaa Help?
[00:49] <pulaski> ActionParsnip:
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> ?
[00:49] <pulaski> ActionParsnip: I found I need to add a repository, check it out: http://openbookproject.net/thinkCSpy/app_a.xhtml#auto1
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> Nutzebahn: id run sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get -f install; sudo apt-get update
[00:50] <emma> Alex135: I just got back. I was trying to see about a medibuntu repo for Intrepid. I think there is not yet a line to put into your sources.list
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> pulaski: yep that looks fine
[00:50] <Alex135> emma: 1 sec and ill be back with the info you need
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> pulaski: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.lst
[00:50] <emma> cool thanks.
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> pulaski: paste the repo line at the bottom of the file. add a carridge return at the end of the line
[00:51] <Alex135> emma: ok, 1 sec
[00:52] <Alex135> emma: ok type: sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list
[00:52] <mefisto__> kdesu, not sudo
[00:52] <Alex135> fine, kdesu kate /etc/apt.sources.list.d/medibuntu.list
[00:53] <emma> okay.
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> Alex135: kdesu is for gui apps like kate, sudo is for cli pps only
[00:53] <Alex135> now... past this postpin contents into it. http://paste.ubuntu.com/37277/
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> sudo doesnt set up the gui environment properly
[00:54] <emma> Alex135: shouldn't that period after apt, be a / ?
[00:54] <pulaski> ActionParsnip: I did that and tried to install again and ap-get still returned "Couldn't find package python-gasp,
[00:54] <Alex135> ActionParsnip: ya, i have had inconsistent results with it but a lot of the time i can get it to work with sudo and
[00:54] <Alex135> emma, yes
[00:54] <emma> okay let me type it. one second.
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> pulaski: did you add the repo?
[00:55] <emma> Alex135: okay what shall we put into this file?
[00:55] <pulaski> ActionParsnip: Yes I added the repo, let me read some more.  ubottu told me its not available on hardy heron
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> pulaski: you may have to compile dude
[00:56] <Alex135> emma: go here and copy it into there   http://paste.ubuntu.com/37277/plain/
[00:57] <pulaski> ActionParsnip: This is strange, I got it on my previous intall of hardy, Let me lookaround some more or like you said find the source file.
[00:57] <Alex135> emma: did you do that?
[00:59] <emmy> Hey Alex135 this is me on the computer I'm actually working on here.
[00:59] <emmy> Alex135: could you repost that paste once more?
[00:59] <Alex135> emmy: ah ok, 1 sec
[00:59] <Alex135> emmy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/37277/plain/
[01:01] <Alex135> emmy: ready?
[01:02] <emmy> yes saved now.
[01:02] <Alex135> ok, now run this: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install medibuntu-keyring && sudo apt-get update
[01:03] <mefisto__> intrepid must be really slow
[01:03] <Alex135> indeed....
[01:04] <emmy> done
[01:04] <pulaski> ActionParsnip: Got it.  I had to reload the updated sources.list, Thanks for your help!
[01:04] <_2> well i have managed to move the problem form su to the package manager.  dpkg is hung up. with this loop now. http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d308f1395
[01:04] <emmy> Alex135: did it.
[01:04] <Alex135> emmy: sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2
[01:04] <joshuajtl> does anyone use kickoff? looking for a latest package...
[01:04] <Alex135> emmy: are you on i386 or amd64
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> pulaski: its cool man, always run sudo apt-get update after updating sources.lst
[01:04] <joshuajtl> tried using alien on the suse package but it failed unpacking the rpm
[01:05] <emmy> Alex135: did it.
[01:05] <votaguz> hi all, anybody know how i can mute the "Bip" when i do a error in xterm or Konsole ?
[01:05] <Alex135> emmy: are you on i386 or amd64
[01:05] <emmy> i386
[01:05] <pulaski> ActionParsnip: cya
[01:06] <ActionParsnip> votaguz: http://osdir.com/ml/linux.debian.user.kde/2002-10/msg00249.html
[01:06] <draik> Hello all
[01:06] <_2> votaguz i used to know.  there is a command ....  let me look
[01:06] <Alex135> emmy: ok, run whats in this paste  http://paste.ubuntu.com/37280/plain/
[01:06] <votaguz> ok _2 Thanks ... :)
[01:06] <emmy> I'm having another strange problem right now, which is the reason that it seemd I was going slow...
[01:06] <draik> Is anyone here having issues loading Firefox 3.0.1? It takes about 3 minutes or so to load up and then freezes before finishing the final load of my homepage; google.com
[01:07] <emmy> when I click on that link it launches openoffice.org
[01:07] <Alex135> emmy: probably a bug with intrepid
[01:07] <emmy> I'll file a bug then.
[01:07] <emmy> just one moment while I paste it to the browser.
[01:07] <_2> votaguz within xorg ?       xset -b
[01:07] <joshuajtl> anyone?? kickoff?
[01:08] <votaguz> nice man _2 THANKS!!! :D
[01:09] <_2> votaguz this is the one i was looking for   but you don't want it.      setterm -blength 0     for console tty's
[01:09] <emmy> Alex135:  Did it
[01:09] <_2> votaguz welcome
[01:09] <Alex135> emmy: now do sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[01:09] <emmy> I already have those.
[01:09] <Alex135> emmy: did it update them?
[01:10] <_2> votaguz note +b turns that back on.
[01:10] <Alex135> emmy: when we added the repo
[01:10] <votaguz> ok _2 :)
[01:10] <emmy> will it hurt anything if I go ahead and do install w32codecs if I already have them?
[01:10] <Alex135> emmy: no
[01:10] <_2> votaguz also konsole has it's own setting in the preferances
[01:10] <emmy> okay i'll do it then.
[01:10] <_2> votaguz if you use konsole/yakuake
[01:11] <Alex135> emmy: if you already have packages it will either try and update them, or if they are up to date just tell you that they are up to date and stop the process
[01:11] <emmy> i installed them previoiusly by finding the package on debian site, and then doing dpkg -i w32codecs_blahblah.deb
[01:11] <Alex135> emmy: k
[01:11] <Alex135> emmy: what did it say
[01:11] <Alex135> emmy: adept
[01:12] <emmy> w32codecs is already the newest version.
[01:12] <emmy> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 28 not upgraded.
[01:12] <Alex135> emmy: ok, now do: sudo apt-get install mplayer gmplayer
[01:12] <emmy> gmplayer?
[01:12] <emmy> what's that going to do?
[01:12] <Alex135> emmy: ya just do it, were gonna mess with some configurations with xien
[01:13] <emmy> Will this still be Kubuntu?
[01:13] <Alex135> xine*
[01:13] <Alex135> oh wait
[01:13] <Alex135> dont do that
[01:13] <Alex135> nvm
[01:13] <Alex135> hmmm
[01:13] <ActionParsnip> kmplayer
[01:13] <Alex135> emmy: dont do it... i forgot that you dont have both.
[01:13] <Alex135> emmy: ya, do Kmplayer
[01:13] <emmy> I have just Kubuntu.
[01:13] <emmy> Okay.
[01:13] <Alex135> emmy: sudo apt-get install mplayer kmplayer
[01:14] <ActionParsnip> Alex135: mplayer is a dependancy of kmplayer
[01:14]  * _2 tolerates #  setterm -bfreq 440 ;setterm -blength 300
[01:14] <emmy> Okay
[01:14] <emmy> I already had mpayer anyway. Not a problem.
[01:14] <Alex135> ActionParsnip: ya i know, small problem on my part
[01:14] <Alex135> emmy: ok, 1 sec
[01:15] <mefisto__> joshuajtl: kickoff is the suse menu, right?
[01:15] <Nutzebahn> Is Ubuntu 8.0.4 much better than 7.10?
[01:16] <emmy> !better
[01:16] <Alex135> emmy: dang, i was gonna configure xine with gmplayer because it can configure it more but i forgot your not in gnome
[01:16] <emmy> No problem :)
[01:16] <Alex135> emmy: try doing your stream again in kaffien and see if it works
[01:16] <emmy> maybe with all these dependencies from medibuntu something can play it now.
[01:17] <Alex135> emmy: if all else fails i have another method
[01:17] <emmy> could you do me a favor and paste the link to the stream?
[01:17] <Alex135> emmy: erm... ill try, 1 sec
[01:17] <emmy> (see im on a different computer here)
[01:17] <emmy> than the one I sent the link on.
[01:17] <Alex135> http://lightningstream.surfernetwork.com/Media/player/scripts/player.aspx?call=ktrs
[01:17] <Nutzebahn> Is it better to use Synaptic or the terminal to install kde 4?
[01:17] <Githzerai> Nutzebahn: anyway
[01:18] <Alex135> nutzbehan: i think it would be better to not install KDE 4 either way
[01:18] <emmy> Thanks. Xine is playing it.
[01:18] <Alex135> emmy: really?
[01:18] <Alex135> emmy: cool
[01:18] <Alex135> emmy: i didn't think it would work without the last step
[01:18] <emmy> Yeah I just needed the link to click on.
[01:18] <Alex135> emmy: looks like your codecs were messed up
[01:18] <emmy> could be. Not sure how.
[01:19] <Alex135> emmy: or they wern't the ones needed to play the stream so it added what was needed
[01:19] <Nutzebahn> Why?
[01:19] <emmy> may have been missing some more modern dll
[01:19] <Alex135> emmy: possibly
[01:19] <Alex135> emmy: anyway, i would have set it up so you could watch rmvb files but without gmplayer i dont know how to do it :P
[01:19] <Alex135> emmy: anyway, glad i could help with your stream
[01:20] <Alex135> emmy: i am not sure what the other custom effects are with the rmvb files so it could have made other things play, which was why i was setting it up as a precaution
[01:20] <emmy> Yes thanks very much for the help. How did you know what to add to the medibuntu.list ?
[01:20] <Alex135> emmy: ill send you the URLS from what i put together
[01:21] <emmy> okay
[01:21] <Alex135> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu               http://packages.medibuntu.org/dists/intrepid/            http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/hardy.list
[01:21] <Alex135> emmy: i had to customize it x.x was a bit of a pain
[01:21] <Alex135> emmy: but i used the combination of those 3 to figure it out
[01:22] <Alex135> emmy: im glad sometimes that i dont develop ubuntu and just help out in the IRC support section, hehe
[01:22] <emmy> cool. I saw the first of those links and found it was not so simple as replacing hardy with intrepid.
[01:22] <Alex135> emmy: ya
[01:22] <emmy> i imagine eventually or ultimatlely it will be.
[01:23] <mefisto__> umm, you did replace hardy with intrepid
[01:23] <Alex135> emmy: well it was actually quite similer, look at these 2 links
[01:23] <Alex135> http://paste.ubuntu.com/37277/plain/
[01:23] <Alex135> http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/hardy.list
[01:23] <Alex135> look at the small difference
[01:24] <Alex135> you will understand what i did
[01:24] <emmy> mefisto__: i'm talking about the first link, and replacing the word hardy with the word intrepid in the instructions for getting the medibuntu repo.
[01:24] <Alex135> mefisto__: he is talking about htis link    http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/hardy.list
[01:24] <Alex135> the link itself
[01:24] <Alex135> not the contents
[01:25] <Alex135> emmy: you see what i did?
[01:26] <emmy> yep that did it
[01:27] <emmy> sorry it's hard to click on all these links quickly with this laptop and some of them being launched by openoffice.org
[01:27] <Alex135> emmy: funny thing was i never knew how it all worked untill after i helped you get it working, so i guess we both learned something, hehe
[01:27] <Alex135> emmy: hehe
[01:27] <emmy> :)
[01:28] <Alex135> emmy: btw, why did you decide to you intrepid?
[01:28] <Alex135> use*
[01:28] <emmy> so that I can find problems and report them to knowledgeable people while there's still time to fix them.
[01:28] <Alex135> emmy: ah
[01:29] <emmy> but as it turns out, it is much better than Hardy or my gnome ubuntu desktop ever was.
[01:29] <emmy> with kubuntu you have the option of kde4 but that's very very very buggy. Kubuntu Intrepid comes with kde4 and it's all just very beautiful.
[01:30] <Alex135> emmy: erm, they just recently came out with KDE4.1 so thats why its a bit better... kde4 is a bit more polished
[01:30] <mefisto__> emmy: are you using konversation?
[01:31] <joshuajtl> mefisto__: yes suse menu
[01:31] <mefisto__> joshuajtl: have you tried tastymenu? it's quite similar
[01:32] <emmy> Yes I'm using conversation right now.
[01:33] <mefisto__> emmy: unless konversation has changed in intrepid, you can choose which browser will open links, so it won't try opening them in openoffice
[01:34] <joshuajtl> mefisto__: just installed it, it's supported so I'll just stick with it
[01:35] <mefisto__> joshuajtl: more configureable than kickoff too
[01:35] <joshuajtl> mefisto__:  it looks better as far as useability, but not looks
[01:35] <emmy> oh?
[01:35] <mefisto__> true
[01:37] <joshuajtl> wish i could show both recently used, and favourites
[01:37] <mefisto__> emmy: in konversation settings, behaviour, general, miscellaneous section, tick "use custom web browser" and put in konqueror '%u' or firefox '%u' or whichever browser you use
[01:39] <emmy> mefisto__: ahh that might do it.
[01:41] <mortici> irssi for the win :D
[01:43] <emmy> i typically use irssi but i thought since i've just switched to Kubuntu, perhaps I can make myself acquainted with these varioius KDE apps.
[01:47] <joshuajtl> anyone know if its possible to have both favourittes and recently used apps in tastymenu?
[01:48] <mefisto__> joshuajtl: you mean both visible at the same time?
[01:50] <joshuajtl> mefisto__: yeah
[01:51] <mortici> can some one do mortici: hi
[01:52] <joshuajtl> mortici: hi
[01:52] <mortici> thank you
[01:52] <mefisto__> joshuajtl: don't think you can do that
[01:54] <mefisto__> joshuajtl: but you could edit the kmenu and put your favourite apps in the main "root" section (that is, not in a submenu)
[01:54] <mortici> Hostname: SuperNova - OS: Linux 2.6.24-19-generic/i686 - CPU: 2 x Intel(R) Core(TM)2 (3200.024 MHz) - Processes: 131 - Uptime: 2h 8m - Load Average: 0.65 - Memory Usage: 305.04MB/2026.70MB (15.05%) - Disk Usage: 255.60GB/101.12GB (252.78%)
[01:54] <mortici> whoops
[01:54] <mortici> sorry!
[01:56] <joshuajtl> ahh ok thx
[01:56] <emmy> the kubuntu community seems to be kinder and more welcoming.
[02:05] <strixvarius> System tray volume problem: I installed libsdl1.2debian-all which seemed to remove libsdl1.2debian-alsa, so I put alsa back but now my tray volume applet has disappeared. Any suggestions as to how I can easily recover default behavior?
[02:07] <mortici> run kmix
[02:07] <strixvarius> damn that's exactly it. thanks! How can I get it to do that on startup again though?
[02:07] <mortici> strixvarius: if your in KDE 4.1 hit alt+f2 and type kmix
[02:07] <mortici> it will automatically do it :)
[02:07] <mortici> but you can verify by right clicking it
[02:08] <strixvarius> mortici, thanks!
[02:09] <mortici> strixvarius: your very welcome :D
[02:09] <bobyada_> When I launch ubuntu hardy it locks up and doesn't have title bars. I load terminal and do sudo compiz and that seems to fix it for that particular boot. So there is a problem with compiz.
[02:10] <mortici> bobyada_: alt + f2 and then compiz --replace
[02:10] <strixvarius> bobyada_: It sounds like no WM is loading by default, maybe?
[02:10] <mortici> and emerald --replace
[02:10] <mortici> make sure both all of compiz and emerald are installed
[02:11] <mortici> and yes strixvarius no WM is loading :)
[02:12] <strixvarius> mortici: Do you have any experience with audio in VMware under Kubuntu? The guys in #vmware aren't very talkative and that's why I've been monkeying with my audio settings.
[02:12] <mortici> strixvarius: i actually use virtualbox
[02:12] <mortici> strixvarius: works out of the box for me :/
[02:13] <kevin_> hello all, I have a message "You have 1  broken package on your system! Use the "Broken" filter to locate it..... How do I use a broken filter, what should I do? can anyone help? thanks
[02:13] <strixvarius> mortici: Thanks - if their images are compatible I'll just switch over
[02:13] <mortici> strixvarius: .vdi
[02:14] <mortici> install and setup took me less than 45 mins to get everything working
[02:14] <Efreak> whoa, thats a lot of people
[02:14] <mortici> i wasn't part of the usbfs group so 15 mins were spent trying to figure out why my usb devices weren't working lol
[02:14] <strixvarius> mortici: Awesome, that's what I'll do then. Only worry is... where on earth do I have my Windows XP CD?!? ;)
[02:15] <mortici> :) i looked for mine too, and i stumbled across one on the this crazy thing called the internet :P
[02:15] <Daisuke_Laptop> condoning piracy = bad
[02:15] <mortici> im not condoning it
[02:15] <mortici> im just saying
[02:16] <Daisuke_Laptop> just saying that *if* you already have an oem license that isn't being used, you might be able to take a boat to a particular bay to get replacement media?
[02:17] <mortici> i have 2 oem licenses
[02:17] <Daisuke_Laptop> right, so in that case you would be okay
[02:18] <mortici> quite, yes
[02:18] <kevin_> Does anyone know how to locate a broken package using a filter, I would really like some   help?
[02:19] <Daisuke_Laptop> just verifying that we're both taking about a perfectly legal situation in which acquiring replacement media via a sudden deluge of water would be a legal and appropriate thing to do
[02:19] <mortici> kevin_: why not use adept_manager and search for it?
[02:19] <strixvarius> How can I find more information about what's wrong in Adept when it says "BREAK!!! (Install)"
[02:20] <strixvarius> After I try to install a package. "It would break other packages," but I don't know where to find out which ones or how I can fix it
[02:20] <mortici> Daisuke_Laptop: agreed
[02:21] <mortici> strixvarius: im not sure i ever came across that
[02:22] <kevin_> I have seen 'break other packages' and I usually ignore it, I cannot see how it has affected my system, so I ignore it and just carry on
[02:23] <strixvarius> mortici: It gives me that when I try to install virtualbox (from the meta package: virtualbox-ose-modules-generic)
[02:23] <strixvarius> mortici: maybe I'll just download it from the web and compile it
[02:23] <mortici> strixvarius: dl the closed source binary
[02:23] <strixvarius> mortici: cool thx
[02:23] <mortici> strixvarius: a single deb to install everything plus it has usb support
[02:25] <internet_> Siema ALL
[02:26] <emmy> is there any application like aport for reporting bugs on kubuntu
[02:26] <emmy> ?
[02:26] <internet_> co ?
[02:27] <emmy> mowisz polski?
[02:29] <bob_> anybody know how to get the GDM back after installing kde-desktop
[02:30] <bob_> is anyone out there?
[02:30] <bob_> anyone????
[02:30] <bob_> someone???
[02:30] <bob_> I mus be alone
[02:31] <mortici> bob_: lots of people here...
[02:31] <bob_> scary
[02:31] <bob_> yeah I know
[02:31] <bob_> just lookin for a response
[02:31] <mortici> bob_: have you GIS switch kdm to gdm kubuntu?
[02:31] <Colonel_Panic> I'm having a bit of trouble getting a USB external HDD to work
[02:31] <bob_> GIS?
[02:31] <Colonel_Panic> It's a 250 GB Seagate
[02:32] <Colonel_Panic> in a USB 2 enclosure
[02:32] <Colonel_Panic> Kubuntu doesn't seem to see it
[02:32] <mortici> bob_: Google Internet Search
[02:32] <mortici> better yet try this
[02:32] <mortici> sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[02:32] <dwidmann> Colonel_Panic: try a different USB port?
[02:32] <bob_> did u have it hooked up to a windows pc?
[02:32] <Colonel_Panic> I have
[02:32] <Colonel_Panic> I've tried the ports on the front and back
[02:32] <bob_> ok thanks
[02:32] <bob_> I will try
[02:32] <Colonel_Panic> what's more, my laptop dpesn't se it either
[02:33] <mortici> bob_: your welcome
[02:33] <Colonel_Panic> It's not formatted, afaik
[02:33] <mortici> bob_: be sure to select gdm :P
[02:33] <markus_uw> i was gonna have him change his /etc/X11/default-display-manager file
[02:33] <bob_> did u try to hook it up to windows based pc?
[02:33] <Colonel_Panic> I'm running Hardy
[02:33] <Colonel_Panic> Don't have on atm
[02:33] <bob_> got it mrtici
[02:33] <dwidmann> Colonel_Panic: okay, unplug it from the USB, plug it back in, and then pastebin the output of "cat /var/log/syslog | tail - 100"
[02:33] <Colonel_Panic> *one*
[02:34] <Colonel_Panic> ok one sec
[02:34] <mortici> Colonel_Panic: what dwidmann said :)
[02:34] <bob_> mortici still there?
[02:34] <mortici> bob_: quite yes
[02:35] <Colonel_Panic> http://pastebin.com/m1da42ef
[02:35] <bob_> I have a wierd problem with trying ti type a the letter "t" in caps using the shift key
[02:36] <bob_> it only happens in gnome not in kde
[02:36] <dwidmann> Colonel_Panic: did you forget the "-" on the tail command?
[02:36] <Colonel_Panic> one sec
[02:36] <mortici> bob_: what happens?
[02:36] <strixvarius> ok this is freaking me out: http://pastebin.com/d49a8a13b
[02:36] <strixvarius> I guess I should summarize (http://pastebin.com/d49a8a13b) can't add myself to a group
[02:36] <Colonel_Panic> nope
[02:36] <bob_> nothing and it doesnt matter what app I try to type in
[02:37] <dwidmann> at any rate, Colonel_Panic, pastebin the last 100 of the /var/log/dmesg also
[02:37] <Colonel_Panic> cat /var/log/syslog | tail - 100
[02:38] <bob_> any suggestions?
[02:38] <markus_uw> ya, the dmesg is probably more useful
[02:39] <Colonel_Panic> here check this out: http://pastebin.com/m6e91bfff
[02:39] <mortici> bob_: so you can type a capital T?
[02:39] <mortici> whilst pressing SHIFT + T
[02:40] <mortici> but CAPS LOCK + t works fine?
[02:40] <bob_> yes
[02:40] <mortici> sounds like it might be a shortcut issue
[02:40] <mortici> check your keyboard global shortcuts
[02:41] <dwidmann> ah, there's the goods
[02:41] <bob_> too clear it up. Once again Shift+t nothing CAPS lock capital t
[02:42] <Daisuke_Laptop> then your shift is bound to something else?
[02:42] <bob_> I checked the keyboard settings and binded keys but it all looks right
[02:42] <Daisuke_Laptop> nevermind then :\
[02:42] <Colonel_Panic> did you guys see that?
[02:43] <Colonel_Panic> dwidmann: did you see that?
[02:43] <dwidmann> Colonel_Panic: yews
[02:43] <dwidmann> **yes
[02:44] <Colonel_Panic> I don't quite understand what those log entries mean
[02:44] <dwidmann> Colonel_Panic: what does "sudo parted /dev/sdb print" say? Does the device have a partition table to speak of or is the whole thing formatted with the file system
[02:44] <bob_> hey if I switch into gnome session can I bring this Konverstion with me?
[02:44] <dwidmann> Colonel_Panic: I think they mean that it's picking it up as sdb
[02:44] <Colonel_Panic> far as I know, it's not formatted at all
[02:45] <dwidmann> bob_: Probably not, you'll probably have to close it, and fire up a new konversation in your new session.
[02:45] <faileas> bob_: you might need to restart your irc client. konversation works in gnome, but i think switching sessions shuts down whatever is running
[02:45] <Colonel_Panic> heh
[02:45] <Colonel_Panic> Disk /dev/sdb: 160GB
[02:45] <Colonel_Panic> Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B
[02:45] <Colonel_Panic> Partition Table: msdos
[02:45] <dwidmann> Colonel_Panic: if it's not formatted at all, then you'll have to format it before you can do anything with it.
[02:45] <markus_uw> Panic: ok so its there
[02:46] <markus_uw> Panic: open gparted and format it with a file system as you desire
[02:46] <bob_> ok thanks
[02:46] <Colonel_Panic> so I can't mount it till it's been formatted. That makes sense
[02:46] <Colonel_Panic> How can I do that?"
[02:46] <Colonel_Panic> I think I want to format it as either FAT32 or NTFS
[02:46] <Colonel_Panic> can Kubuntu create NTFS partitions?
[02:47] <markus_uw> fat32 works a little nicer with linux, but has a max 4GB filesize
[02:47] <dwidmann> Colonel_Panic: are you familiar with partitioning or do you need instruction? programs like qtparted, gparted, parted, fdisk, and cfdisk are all decent options
[02:47] <dwidmann> Colonel_Panic: though, if it's meant to be used with windows, partitioning is a no-no.
[02:47] <Colonel_Panic> I've used gparted before
[02:47] <dwidmann> Colonel_Panic: windows can't handle USB devices with partition tables and/or more than one partition
[02:48] <Colonel_Panic> I think I just want to create one big filesystem out of the whole 250GB
[02:48] <Colonel_Panic> or... wait no it's 160GB
[02:48] <markus_uw> Panic: do a 'sudo apt-get install qtparted' and then run it
[02:48] <markus_uw> its very similar to gparted
[02:48] <Colonel_Panic> ok
[02:48] <markus_uw> will work a little nicer with kde-ness
[02:49] <dwidmann> !tab | markus_uw
[02:49] <Colonel_Panic> Getting devices...
[02:50] <Colonel_Panic> ok running qtparted as root now
[02:51] <markus_uw> cool, i never knew that
[02:51] <markus_uw> i did know the command line :p but not the irc
[02:51] <Colonel_Panic> so you're saying if I use FAT32 I can't make a partition bigger than 4GB?
[02:51] <Colonel_Panic> that doesn't sound right...
[02:51] <markus_uw> Colonel_Panic: no, just can't have a file bigger than 4 GB
[02:51] <Colonel_Panic> aaah
[02:51] <markus_uw> so no giant dvd isos
[02:51] <Colonel_Panic> shoot, what to do?
[02:52] <Colonel_Panic> I might want to have big files
[02:52] <Colonel_Panic> but I want this drive to be sharable with Windows boxen
[02:52] <dwidmann> Colonel_Panic: files bigger than 4GiB? Really?
[02:52] <markus_uw> Colonel_Panic: i've never really seen it as much of a problem
[02:52] <Colonel_Panic> what about a ripped DVD or something like that?
[02:53] <Colonel_Panic> those are usually bigger than 4GB
[02:53] <markus_uw> Colonel_Panic: just with like virtual drives for virtualbox or something
[02:53] <markus_uw> Colonel_Panic: or dvd iso's
[02:53] <Colonel_Panic> yeah
[02:53] <dwidmann> Colonel_Panic: well, if it's compressed then it'd probably be okay, if it's just a dump of the VOB files those are all about 1GiB each
[02:53] <Colonel_Panic> yeah
[02:54] <Colonel_Panic> some might be bigger
[02:54] <Efreak> ...
[02:54] <Colonel_Panic> and then there's HD-DVD
[02:54] <dwidmann> Colonel_Panic: only the ISO image would be super-huge
[02:54] <Colonel_Panic> aw what the hell this is juat a 160 GB drive
[02:54] <Colonel_Panic> if I want to store bigger filoes than that I can just get a bigger drive
[02:54] <dwidmann> Colonel_Panic: that and if you were desperate you could probably find a program to split the files or something anyhow
[02:54] <Colonel_Panic> OK FAt it is
[02:55] <Colonel_Panic> or just use my internal drive
[02:55] <markus_uw> Colonel_Panic: it very rarely has been a problem, and you can just rar it into parts or something anyways
[02:55] <dwidmann> be back soon, my physical presence is required downstairs.
[02:55] <Colonel_Panic> it ought to have plenty of space after I move all the crap off it
[02:55] <Colonel_Panic> ok
[02:55] <Efreak> I had ubuntu installed, and after I installed kubuntu-desktop, i opened firefox under kde (same user as in gnome). Now the open tab looks exactly the same as the closed tabs, which means that if I have multiple tabs with the same name open, I don't know which one is open. Does anyone know how to fix this?
[02:55] <Colonel_Panic> FAT32 it is
[02:55] <markus_uw> Colonel_Panic: sounds good :)
[02:56] <ville88> anyone know a good site to learn konsole commands?
[02:56] <Efreak> ...isnt konsole just the terminal?
[02:56] <markus_uw> google 'bash commands'
[02:56] <Efreak> yeah, it is
[02:56] <ville88> markus ok :)
[02:57] <strixvarius> Firefox: I have all my app preferences set up in KDE/Konqueror.. so, for example, if I open a .torrent in Konqueror it opens with the right program. Is there a way to make FF3 just use Konq's default programs?
[02:57] <Efreak> 'help' usually brings up a list of some of the commands
[02:57] <Efreak> idk, is there an 'always open with' in the 'open with' dialogue, like there is in windows?
[02:57] <Colonel_Panic> wow that was fast
[02:58] <strixvarius> Efreak, yes there is but I don't want to have to set that in FF and in Konq, i'd rather them get the same settings
[02:58] <markus_uw> Colonel_Panic: done formatting already?
[02:58] <Efreak> oh, nm
[02:58] <Efreak> i misunderstood the q
[02:58] <Efreak> :P
[02:58] <Colonel_Panic> it says it is
[02:59] <Colonel_Panic> but it didn't seem to take any time
[02:59] <dwidmann> Colonel_Panic: XFS is crazy fast at formatting, it would have finished that in just a few seconds.
[02:59] <markus_uw> Colonel_Panic: what he said
[02:59] <Colonel_Panic> I'm restart5ing qtparted
[02:59] <markus_uw> Colonel_Panic: especially since it was empty to begin with
[02:59] <Colonel_Panic> heh
[03:00] <Colonel_Panic> it shows the drive as totally grey-ed out again
[03:00] <Colonel_Panic> apparently it didnt work
[03:01] <dwidmann> Colonel_Panic: try unplugging it, then plugging it back in, then "sudo mkdir /media/temp" "sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdb1 /media/temp"
[03:01] <markus_uw> Colonel_Panic: hmm, did you tell it to commit?
[03:02] <markus_uw> Colonel_Panic: (sometimes i've been known to miss a crucial step like that :p)
[03:02] <Colonel_Panic> commit?
[03:02] <markus_uw> after you made all the changes in the window?
[03:02] <markus_uw> should be file -> commit
[03:03] <Colonel_Panic> I right-clicked the drive and a menu came up. I selected "Create" and a dialog came up. I selectyed FAT32, gave it a title, and clicked "OK"
[03:04] <markus_uw> do that and file -> commit
[03:04] <markus_uw> and you should be good
[03:04] <Colonel_Panic> another dialog came up with a progress bar that was already showing 100%
[03:05] <Colonel_Panic> the graphic representing the drive then turned green with a little Windows logo in the corner
[03:05] <Colonel_Panic> hold on, let me pastebin the console contents
[03:06] <Efreak|Beowulf> is there something like ctrl+d logout in konsole?
[03:07] <Efreak|Beowulf> **!*&$!@
[03:07] <ville88> what was the command to see all partitions?
[03:11] <Colonel_Panic> \When I did that, it said, "All operations completed successfully" but: http://pastebin.com/m135be046
[03:12] <markus_uw> hmm... weird
[03:12] <Colonel_Panic> For some reason, when I try to diaplay /media/ in D0lphin, nothing shows up. Lemme try Konqueror
[03:13] <Reformer81> I'm currently using this command ( http://paste.ubuntu.com/37305/ ) to convert videos.  However, I have several videos with different resolutions and would like to know how to convert a video into it's original resolution.  Anyone know?
[03:17] <mrksbrd> is there anyway to do a search for a PDF document?
[03:18] <markus_uw> Colonel_Panic: can i see your dmesg now when you plug it in?
[03:18] <Colonel_Panic> ok one sec
[03:18] <Colonel_Panic> oh hey, sda0, sda1 and sda2 aren't showing up in /media/
[03:18] <madagascar> I screwed up
[03:19] <Colonel_Panic> shold I be concerned about this?
[03:19] <madagascar> i cant enter kubintu
[03:19] <madagascar> i deleted my oxygen theme
[03:19] <madagascar> and now when i try to log in i get into a command line
[03:19] <markus_uw> Colonel_Panic: there aren't other partitions other than the linux ones on sda, are there?
[03:20] <madagascar> how can i get in and get back a gui
[03:20] <mrksbrd>  is there anyway to do a search for a PDF document thru kmenu?
[03:20] <Colonel_Panic> http://pastebin.com/m55dcdc3
[03:21] <Colonel_Panic> markus_uw: no, just my active primary partition, my swap partition, and my /home partition
[03:22] <marius> hi
[03:22] <markus_uw> Colonel_Panic: then that's fine, since theyre mounted as the / , /home and swap already
[03:22] <madagascar> ???
[03:23] <markus_uw> Colonel_Panic: your sdb1 should be showing up there, though
[03:23] <Colonel_Panic> did yo look at that pastebin yet?
[03:23] <Colonel_Panic> All I see is sda3 and it says it's empty, 0 bytes
[03:23] <d0wn__> cd #ubuntu
[03:23] <d0wn__> damn
[03:23] <d0wn__> can't believe i did that
[03:23] <bob_> mortici you here?
[03:24] <Colonel_Panic> however, everything shows up fin if I look at /home
[03:24] <Colonel_Panic> *fine*
[03:24] <Colonel_Panic> I can't seem to play DVDs either
[03:25] <markus_uw> Colonel_Panic: hmm, as far as the sda3 is concerned, its weird, but if its workign, i wouldnt worry
[03:25] <bob_> can someon help me with some basic IRC how to???
[03:25] <markus_uw> Colonel_Panic: the dvd, just google search kubuntu 8.04 dvd playback and im sure there're some instructions
[03:25] <Colonel_Panic> any clues about this external drive?
[03:26] <markus_uw> Colonel_Panic: i did it a while ago, just dont remember
[03:26] <ville88> Hello does anyone know a good ftp program?
[03:26] <markus_uw> Colonel_Panic: i don't see any reference to it in the dmesg which is weird...
[03:27] <markus_uw> Colonel_Panic: what do you see now if you start up qtparted again?
[03:28] <mrksbrd> bob: what did u need to know?
[03:28] <bob_> I closed the irc client and when I returned...
[03:29] <bob_> it said the the name was in use and to try another one
[03:29] <Colonel_Panic> ok one sec
[03:29] <madagascar> hello
[03:29] <tachikoma_> hi
[03:29] <madagascar> i lost my gui
[03:29] <madagascar> by accdently delteing the oxygen theme
[03:29] <madagascar> now all i have is the command line
[03:29] <bob_> so how do I log off or close out that other session
[03:30] <madagascar> how can i get back my gui from that command line
[03:31] <mrksbrd> bob: your nick is just hanging in limbo right now, it will time out after a bit......i believe you can send a kill command via nickserv
[03:31] <mortici_> bob_: si?
[03:31] <bob_> can u explain a little more this is the first time I have ever used IRC
[03:32] <mrksbrd> yea let me find the command....one sec
[03:32] <bob_> mortici thanks got my gdm back
[03:32] <bob_> k
[03:32] <Colonel_Panic> it shows up as a white block and says the filesystem is unknown
[03:33] <mortici_> bob_: your quite welcome
[03:33] <Colonel_Panic> hey, how can I unmount all partitions?
[03:33] <mrksbrd> use the /msg NickServ ghost [nick] [password] command
[03:34] <chipbuddy> i have an old laptop that i want to get some form of linux on. the laptop will have no internet, and really all i want to do is program. what do i want?
[03:34] <madagascar> #ubuntu
[03:34] <bob_> I never set a password for bob_ nick????'
[03:35] <markus_uw> Colonel_Panic: that's really weird
[03:36] <Colonel_Panic> hey, how can I unmount all partitions?
[03:36] <Colonel_Panic> before committing changes to my external drive
[03:36] <markus_uw> Colonel_Panic: the only one that should matter is the one ont he external drive
[03:37] <Colonel_Panic> yeah I figured as much, but at this point I'm graspoing at straws
[03:37] <bob_> also where do I enter that command
[03:37] <markus_uw> umount /dev/sdb1
[03:37] <markus_uw> with a sudo infront
[03:37] <mrksbrd> did u ever register your nick?
[03:37] <markus_uw> should get rid of that
[03:38] <bob_> no
[03:38] <bob_> thats why I am confused
[03:38] <markus_uw> Colonel_Panic: i might try nuking the mystery partition and remaking the fat 32
[03:38] <bob_> I just started IRC and it connected Iwas expecting to set it up
[03:39] <mrksbrd> you can sign onto irc using any name u want unless it is already registered to someone else
[03:39] <mortici_> mortici: you slut
[03:39] <mortici_> give me my name back :(
[03:39] <bob_> but it didnt ask for anything
[03:39] <bob_> oh ok
[03:39] <Colonel_Panic> heh ok
[03:39] <flaccid_> bob_: in kubuntu, konversation irc client will connect you auto to freenode and this room
[03:40] <bob_> aaaahhhhh ok now I understand
[03:40] <mrksbrd> to register a nick ....sign on under nick u want .... /nickserv register [password]
[03:41] <bob_> where do I enter  ---  /nickserv register
[03:41] <mrksbrd> u can do it from channel
[03:41] <flaccid_> bob_: any tab
[03:41] <robotgeek> you might need to type /msg nickserv register
[03:42] <bob_> just type that in the same space that I am typing now?
[03:42] <mrksbrd> yea ....sorry forgot msg
[03:42] <flaccid_> !register
[03:42] <mrksbrd> do /msg nickserv register [password]
[03:43] <Colonel_Panic> OK I'm reformatting it as an ext3 partition
[03:43] <markus_uw> Colonel_Panic: here's hoping this works, eh?
[03:43] <Colonel_Panic> yeah it seems to be working ok
[03:44] <bob_> ooohhhhh ok I got U have to excuse me I am stll wthdrawing from WinXP so some growing pains'
[03:44] <rich_> sup
[03:44] <markus_uw> Colonel_Panic: yay!
[03:44] <mrksbrd> not a problem
[03:44] <Colonel_Panic> but what would have caused would the FAT32 formatting operation to fail?
[03:44] <markus_uw> im not sure... and it didn't throw any errors, which is also rather odd
[03:44] <Colonel_Panic> it's a mystery wrapped in a conundrum wrapped in a piece of shit
[03:45] <mrksbrd> @ least u were using the better of the 2 microsoft products...........should try using vista if u really want a headache
[03:45] <markus_uw> hey, vista's not THAT bad
[03:45] <mrksbrd> flaccid u still there?
[03:45] <Colonel_Panic> does Vista have its own filesystem type?
[03:45] <markus_uw> like it's better than oldschool windows was
[03:45] <markus_uw> i think it's a new version of ntfs
[03:45] <mrksbrd> I can't stand vista
[03:45] <bob_> I did for a short time I upgraded my
[03:45] <Colonel_Panic> uh-oh...
[03:46] <Colonel_Panic> qtparted is hanging...
[03:46] <bob_> laptop to Vista Premium and last week almost through it out the window thats when
[03:46] <Colonel_Panic> stuck @ 64% and the app window is greyed out
[03:46] <markus_uw> uh oh
[03:46] <mrksbrd> i know the feeling
[03:46] <bob_> I decided to try ubuntu
[03:46] <flaccid_> mrksbrd: yeah (if you use my current nickname i'll see it in red)
[03:47] <mrksbrd> once u get used to linux you will love it
[03:47] <Colonel_Panic> it's hanging periodically but appears to be making progress...
[03:47] <bob_> 3 dyas ago I scrapped dual boot and I am 100% Linux
[03:47] <markus_uw> i'm still a dual boot guy, myself
[03:47] <bob_> I love it already
[03:47] <markus_uw> but xp and ubuntu
[03:47] <bob_> what about it?
[03:47] <markus_uw> well and opensolaris
[03:47] <mrksbrd> simple ? for ya flaccid....is there a way to search for a *.pdf doc other than strigi?
[03:48] <markus_uw> sp thats more of a triple boot
[03:48] <TeslaTony> bob_: What kind of software do you run on a day-to-day basis?
[03:48] <flaccid> mrksbrd: locate and find
[03:48] <markus_uw> i dont know where the sp is from
[03:48] <markus_uw> Colonel_Panic: hmm
[03:48] <mrksbrd> where's that @
[03:48] <markus_uw> Colonel_Panic: id say wait it out
[03:49] <mrksbrd> [some things I am still learning]
[03:49] <bob_> Nothing special office type products internet download stuff like that
[03:49] <Colonel_Panic> yeah I didn't agonize for all this time, just to start freaking out now
[03:49] <Colonel_Panic> at least it seems to be working
[03:49] <bob_> right now I am trying ti make a decision as to which language to learn
[03:49] <bob_> so I could do alot more
[03:49] <markus_uw> Colonel_Panic: gotta love this free software sometimes, eh?
[03:49] <Colonel_Panic> hanging again at 66%
[03:50] <TeslaTony> bob_: Cool. I still dual boot, unfortunately, since every so often I find I need windows for something..but someday...
[03:50] <bob_> I never knew that there was so much available
[03:50] <Colonel_Panic> but my processor load is very low
[03:50] <mrksbrd> & everything is FREE
[03:50] <Colonel_Panic> and I'm only using about 60% of available RAM
[03:50] <bob_> just curious what do u need windows for besides gaming
[03:51] <madagascar> #ubuntu
[03:51] <TeslaTony> AutoCAD and MS Office 2007
[03:51] <Colonel_Panic> TeslaTony I have been using Linux exclusively for about a year now
[03:51] <Colonel_Panic> very seldom do I feel the need to go back to the dark side
[03:51] <markus_uw> thats all i use mine for... and excel
[03:51] <Colonel_Panic> Wine takes care of most of my Widows software needs
[03:51] <markus_uw> Colonel_Panic: good for you :) always been a kde man?
[03:51] <bob_> its more than just free there is free stuff for Windows too but not much that u would want to use on a daily basis
[03:51] <Colonel_Panic> pretty much
[03:51] <mrksbrd> nothing really....just about everything windows has ubuntu has......just a new learning process
[03:52] <flaccid> mrksbrd: they are commands
[03:52] <Colonel_Panic>  used to love Enlightenment back in the day. Gnome just feels clunky to me. KDE, not so much
[03:52] <markus_uw> linux is so much nicer to use than it used to be
[03:52] <TeslaTony> The day I find a replacement for AutoCAD that works with Linux, I'm going to get about 80 gigs back
[03:52] <madagascar> WHAT do i do i have no gui
[03:52] <madagascar> all i have is the command line
[03:52] <flaccid> well linux is just the kernel. the other software is available on many unixes
[03:52] <markus_uw> i remember when i first installed slackware like 7 years ago
[03:53] <markus_uw> that was not fun
[03:53] <mrksbrd> flaccid: ty
[03:53] <madagascar> i deleted my theme by accident and cant get back in
[03:53] <Colonel_Panic> hehe
[03:53] <markus_uw> sorry, GNU/Linux
[03:53] <bob_> mrksbrd: you are right thats why I scrapped Widows altogether it is just a matter of getting
[03:53] <Colonel_Panic> My nick "Colonel Panic" dates back to about 1997
[03:53] <bob_> used to doing things a little differently
[03:53] <Colonel_Panic> when I installed Slackware for the first time
[03:53] <faileas> markus_uw: actually linux is the kernel. gnu is the userland
[03:53] <flaccid> madagascar: goto a tty and stop kdm then startx and see what the problem is
[03:53] <bob_> plus openoffice opens all MS documents
[03:53] <reboot08> aargghh
[03:53] <faileas> you can run linux with busybox or gnu with bsd, for example ;p
[03:53] <Colonel_Panic> I saw JR "Bob" Dobb's face and thought, "This is the OS for me!"
[03:54] <markus_uw> yes i understand
[03:54] <markus_uw> Colonel_Panic: haha we're both ex slackers :)
[03:54] <Colonel_Panic> I kept getting the "kernel panic" error
[03:54] <flaccid> the userland is the distro's implementation, not GNU
[03:54] <Colonel_Panic> I never did figure out what that was all about
[03:54] <madagascar> what do i do??/
[03:55] <Colonel_Panic> Uh-oh, the hard drive is making weird noises now
[03:55] <Colonel_Panic> this is not good
[03:55] <bob_> hey do any of you know any programing languages???
[03:55] <markus_uw> Colonel_Panic: i remember my share of those
[03:55] <flaccid> its not real gnu linux if you have no gnu/gpl stuff on there..
[03:55] <markus_uw> eek, what kinds of weird noises
[03:55] <madagascar>  goto a tty and stop kdm then startx???
[03:55] <Colonel_Panic> click--SCRATCH click click--SCRATCh
[03:55] <Colonel_Panic> pretty loud, too
[03:55] <Colonel_Panic> not good
[03:56] <Colonel_Panic> I think this is a bad HDD
[03:56] <markus_uw> Colonel_Panic: sounds like it
[03:56] <markus_uw> :(
[03:56] <flaccid> madagascar: thats right
[03:56] <madagascar> what does that mean
[03:57] <flaccid> madagascar: press ctrl+alt+f2 to get to a tty, login, stop kdm with sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop and then you can run startx and see what the problem is with the X config if that is your issue
[03:57] <mrksbrd> bob: i would upgrade to kde ....more features
[03:57] <bob_> I installed the kde desktop already not sure which one I like better
[03:57] <markus_uw> they both have their advantages
[03:57] <markus_uw> i think i like gnome better
[03:58] <markus_uw> but im using kde now
[03:58] <mrksbrd> Gnome is too bland for me
[03:58] <bob_> I kind of like that ubuntu is lite
[03:58] <markus_uw> so i dunno
[03:58] <Colonel_Panic> hell
[03:58] <Colonel_Panic> it won't mount
[03:58]  * faileas tends to shift everything on gnome to one bar at the bottom ;p
[03:58] <madagascar> i noe the problem
[03:58] <dwidmann> Colonel_Panic: is that only when its seaking, or constant?
[03:58] <madagascar> i deleted oxygen theme
[03:58] <dwidmann> *seeking
[03:58] <bob_> Yeah I am using kde right now too :)
[03:58] <Colonel_Panic> it was occasional
[03:58] <Colonel_Panic> near the end of the format
[03:58] <Colonel_Panic> 90% +
[03:59] <mrksbrd> bob: if u were into photoshop there is a prog for here called GIMP
[03:59] <Colonel_Panic> it says 7.64 GB used
[03:59] <bob_> I didnt blike that it put a bunch of stuff into the gnome menus
[03:59] <dwidmann> Colonel_Panic: writing especially tends to be very noisy, especially with external drives
[03:59] <bob_> Yeah I know
[03:59] <Colonel_Panic> P-shop runs fine under Wine
[03:59] <flaccid> yeah if you want to run old photoshop versions
[03:59] <Colonel_Panic> ok well how can I mount this drive?
[04:00] <flaccid> oh hangon i take that back!
[04:00] <bob_> believe me I have spent hours in from of my laptop checking everything out
[04:00] <flaccid> adobe put money into wine, but was it crossover only or wine as well?
[04:00] <mrksbrd> u can use only up to ver 6 of photoshop in wine though right?
[04:00] <bob_> that was a concern because I do use photoshop alot
[04:00] <flaccid> !u | mrksbrd
[04:00] <flaccid> mrksbrd: nah recently adobe invested money into it to make ps run
[04:01] <flaccid> just can't remember if it was wine or crossover or both
[04:01] <Memory_Moron> lol
[04:01] <markus_uw> its nice, though i usually just use gimp when im in "nix
[04:01] <Memory_Moron> !appdb
[04:01] <Memory_Moron> Nice!
[04:01] <Colonel_Panic> it seems to think /dev/sdb1 is a file
[04:02] <markus_uw> thats fine
[04:02] <mrksbrd> lol @ flaccid....sorry
[04:02] <markus_uw> now you need to mount it
[04:02] <flaccid> Colonel_Panic: it is, it should be a block special
[04:03] <Memory_Moron> Seems that CS2 works pretty well, Depending mostly on the linux-fu of the installer.
[04:03] <markus_uw> Colonel_Panic: like before, mount it
[04:03] <markus_uw> should work now
[04:03] <bob_> I dont know ANY languages in your opinions should I start with C C++ JAVA PYTHON or HTML
[04:03] <markus_uw> i like Java, myself
[04:03] <mrksbrd> Does WINE still lock up on certain progs?
[04:03] <bob_> I know HML is not a language
[04:03] <markus_uw> lots of good books too
[04:04] <bob_> do you know any others?
[04:04] <Colonel_Panic> sdb1 is not a ditrectory
[04:04] <bob_> languages that is
[04:04] <markus_uw> it shouldn't be
[04:05] <markus_uw> i've used C#, C++, VBA, IDL, Fortran...
[04:05] <markus_uw> i think thats it
[04:05] <dwidmann> bob_: I vote python or java. You can grab a free book on python from the repositories ... there are lots of good texts out there on java (grab the head first book, it's nice)
[04:05] <bob_> so for the first one you think I should go with JAVA?
[04:06] <markus_uw> yeah, the head first book is what i was going to recommend too
[04:06] <markus_uw> its a good one, yeah
[04:06] <bob_> head first is that the title?
[04:06] <Colonel_Panic> sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/
[04:06] <Colonel_Panic> it's not working
[04:06] <Colonel_Panic> sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sdb1
[04:07] <bob_> can you explain how to get it from the reposatories?
[04:07] <markus_uw>  sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdb1
[04:07] <markus_uw> should be
[04:07] <flaccid> html is a language yes. bob_ perhaps take the convo to #kubuntu-offtopic ?
[04:07] <calamari> hi
[04:07] <Colonel_Panic> it's not a FAT partition, it's eaxt3
[04:07] <Colonel_Panic> ext3
[04:07] <markus_uw> oh
[04:07] <flaccid> Colonel_Panic: why are you manually mounting a device like that?
[04:07] <concernedcitizen> hi guys, is anyone experiencing a latency delay when remote shelling on konsole?
[04:07] <madagascar> sorry im back
[04:08] <bob_> sure I have no problem with that will others follow???
[04:08] <Colonel_Panic> well it won't mount any way I try it
[04:08] <markus_uw> oh, you need a place to mount it to
[04:08] <madagascar> i did not work
[04:08] <madagascar> what was the command
[04:08] <calamari> anyone running 64-bit kubuntu that has been able to get Google Earth to work?  I get a blank starfield only
[04:08] <flaccid> Colonel_Panic: and what is the error?
[04:08] <madagascar> sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[04:08] <madagascar> i got it wrong
[04:08] <markus_uw> put a directory after - 'sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sdb1 [directory]'
[04:09] <dwidmann> bob_: http://www.amazon.com/Head-First-Java-Kathy-Sierra/dp/0596009208/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1218683328&sr=8-1
[04:09] <markus_uw> or am i crazy?
[04:09] <Colonel_Panic> sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sdb1 /media/temp
[04:09] <dwidmann> markus_uw: I don't think your being crazy has anything to do with this :P
[04:09] <bob_> thank you dwidmann
[04:10] <markus_uw> dwidmann: :p
[04:10] <flaccid> Colonel_Panic: disks & filesystems in system settings does all this for you
[04:11] <madagascar> flaccid:what was the command again
[04:11] <madagascar> i messed up
[04:11] <madagascar> i got into the ttyl
[04:11] <madagascar> but theni messed up
[04:12] <flaccid> madagascar: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop and then you will probably have to press ctrl+alt+f2 to get back to the tty again
[04:12] <flaccid> try to keep your responses on 1 line, not 4
[04:12] <jasong1> Can anyone help with a white screen?
[04:13] <madagascar> flaccid: thats all i need to do to get back my gui?
[04:13] <flaccid> madagascar: no this is how you find out the problem with your X. then again i could of misunderstood you
[04:14] <madagascar> flaccid: i deleted oxygen theme
[04:14] <Colonel_Panic> it's still saying access denied whenever I try to write to it
[04:15] <Colonel_Panic> Oh I see
[04:15] <markus_uw> Colonel_Panic: i've gotta go.. hopefully flaccid or someone can help ya out
[04:15] <Colonel_Panic> I have to change the permissions for it
[04:15] <Colonel_Panic> ok
[04:15] <Colonel_Panic> thanks for all the help
[04:15] <markus_uw> good luck!
[04:15] <markus_uw> no problem
[04:16] <other_david> I've got a problem loading codecs. Can anyone help?
[04:16] <flaccid> madagascar: yes i know that, but that doesn't tell us anything about the problem
[04:16] <flaccid> madagascar: and this is not kde4 support either
[04:16] <madagascar> okay i will be back
[04:16] <flaccid> yeah ext3 has permissions
[04:17] <mrksbrd> doesn't ext3 fall under "root"
[04:17] <mrksbrd> so it uses random passwords
[04:17] <flaccid> that doesn't make sense to me
[04:18] <mrksbrd> ext is the "swap drive" so it may be using the random password that "root" uses....does that make more sense
[04:19] <mrksbrd> all i'm saying ...might need to assign a static password instead of the default random
[04:20] <mrksbrd> flaccid: does that make sense?
[04:21] <flaccid> i don't know what passwords have to do with mounting an ext3 fs
[04:21] <flaccid> root doesn't have a random password
[04:22] <CyanideDemise> Can someone help me i just installed kubuntu and its not reconizing my wireless card . im on a dell inspiron 1000 laptop and its a dell wireless card.
[04:22] <flaccid> !wireless | CyanideDemise check support of the card first
[04:23] <mrksbrd> flaccid: thats not what I read, about "root', but you would know more than me
[04:23] <flaccid> !root | mrksbrd
[04:24] <mrksbrd> he said he was trying to write to it not mount it.....I could be misunderstanding though
[04:24] <other_david> any non-bots? help with a codec question?
[04:24] <flaccid> well once an ext is mounted, the system will abide by the unix perms on the fs
[04:24] <flaccid> !ask | other_david
[04:25] <mrksbrd> lol....flaccid is on fire tonight
[04:25] <madagascar> flaccid: it did not work
[04:25] <flaccid> !doesntwork | madagascar
[04:26] <other_david> Helpful bot... not.
[04:26] <madagascar> it says command not found
[04:26] <flaccid> very helpful yes
[04:26] <flaccid> madagascar: which command are you trying to run?
[04:26] <other_david> I've got players installed on my machine. apt-get says I've got the codecs installed. Players won't play. Grrrrr. Any ideas?
[04:26] <emmy> flaccid - sounds like by that definition I don't work.
[04:27] <madagascar> sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[04:27] <flaccid> madagascar: do you have kdm installed. like i said before this is not kde4 support, you could be using kdm-kde4 to which the command would be sudo /etc/init.d/kdm-kde4 stop
[04:28] <flaccid> other_david: what do they players so when you try to play and which codec are you trying to play?
[04:28] <other_david> They offer to try to load the codec, and then fail.
[04:28] <madagascar> okay once again brb
[04:28] <flaccid> other_david: does it go around in a loop?
[04:29] <other_david> Yep.
[04:29] <flaccid> konwn bug. other_david which players did you try?
[04:30] <other_david> Kaffeine. MoviePlayer. gxine.
[04:30] <other_david> I tried uninstalling them (and the codecs) and reinstalling. No joy.
[04:31] <Colonel_Panic> how can I change the permissions for this mount point to allow everyone to read and write to the drive?
[04:31] <flaccid> other_david: i think at this stage i just use vlc player until they fix the bug
[04:32] <flaccid> !fstab | Colonel_Panic
[04:32] <flaccid> Colonel_Panic: users option and this can also be done in disks & filesystems in system settings
[04:32] <other_david> Let me try installing it. Is this a recent bug? Everything was fine until last weekend.
[04:32] <flaccid> Colonel_Panic: oh i misread.
[04:32] <flaccid> !ntfs | Colonel_Panic
[04:33] <flaccid> Colonel_Panic: if you have a look at that it will show you the umask options
[04:33] <flaccid> other_david: i guess its recent. i've never actually seen the auto codec downloader thing work yet..
[04:34] <other_david> Yay - vlc works. :)
[04:35] <flaccid> coolio
[04:35] <other_david> How did this bug happen? A problem with recent updates?
[04:36] <flaccid> other_david: can't remember its on launchpad if you want to read about it
[04:36] <other_david> OK, thanks!
[04:37] <flaccid> np
[04:37] <other_david> -oo-
[04:46] <|ColonelPanic|> for some reason, I'm not able to open dolphin as root
[04:47] <flaccid> |ColonelPanic|: kdesudo dolphin
[04:47] <|ColonelPanic|> yeah, it didn't work just now
[04:48] <|ColonelPanic|> I just tried it again and it worked
[04:49] <flaccid> always provide the error/behaviour or what can you do about it..
[04:56] <dwidmann> I've got a question, I have two separate X screens (2 monitors, non-xinerama, non-twinview), Lets say I have an app full screen in one screen (covering toolbar and all), why, when I give focus to the other screen does kicker show through the full screen app?
[05:01] <vasilisa> Anyone know why a while( in.ready() ) loop of mine isn't working when i load a StringReader into it instead of a FileReader? I thought they would be interchangeable
[05:03] <vasilisa> ready() isnt ever returning false for some reason.
[05:03] <flaccid> vasilisa: this is kubuntu support
[05:04] <vasilisa> flaccid: OH! i did /join java and it didnt happen XD
[05:04] <vasilisa> didnt look at the channel bar
[05:04] <flaccid> cool
[05:04] <vasilisa> hmm
[05:04] <vasilisa> it says i have to be identified to join that channel
[05:04] <vasilisa> never seen that before
[05:04] <mortici_> vasilisa: register with nickserv
[05:04] <vasilisa> nickserv
[05:04] <vasilisa> !nickserv
[05:05] <mortici_> !nick
[05:05] <abwhostw> I couldn't fix the problem
[05:05] <abwhostw> abwhostw@abwhostw-laptop:~$ sudo
[05:05] <abwhostw> sudo: /etc/sudoers is owned by gid 1002, should be 0
[05:05] <Vasilisa> what a nuisance
[05:05] <flaccid> abwhostw: a reinstall might be easier for you then
[05:05] <mortici_> Vasilisa: type /msg NickServ register <nick>
[05:05] <abwhostw> how to reinstall
[05:06] <flaccid> abwhostw: do the same thing you did to instal it initially after backing up your files
[05:06] <mortici_> abwhostw: do you have a root password?
[05:06] <abwhostw> I do have
[05:06] <abwhostw> the root
[05:07] <mortici_> ok
[05:07] <abwhostw> but is expire
[05:07] <mortici_> expired?
[05:07] <abwhostw> Your account has expired; please contact your system administrator
[05:07] <abwhostw> su: User account has expired
[05:07] <mortici_> ahh
[05:08] <abwhostw> do u know how to fixed
[05:08] <mortici_> well you can do a recovery boot, and drop into single user mode and then do the edits you need from command line
[05:08] <flaccid> that might be a bit har for abwhostw but good luck if you decide to abwhostw
[05:09] <abwhostw> like we can fix
[05:09] <abwhostw> I want to make it 0 instaed of 10002
[05:10] <mortici_> abwhostw: boot into safe mode/recovery mode and do the repairs as needed
[05:11] <mortici_> abwhostw: can you do a ls -al /etc/sudoers
[05:11] <abwhostw> ok
[05:11] <corigo> Running Hardy Heron on a Lenovo T61 and can't get the microphone to work... any suggestions?
[05:11] <mortici_> hda intel?
[05:11] <mortici_> sound card?
[05:12] <abwhostw> man
[05:12] <abwhostw> ok
[05:13] <abwhostw> after I do cmd ls -al /etc/sudoers
[05:13] <abwhostw> -r--r----- 1 root root 470 2008-08-10 21:15 /etc/sudoers
[05:15] <abwhostw> r u here
[05:15] <abwhostw> -r--r----- 1 root root 470 2008-08-10 21:15 /etc/sudoers
[05:15] <mortici_> yeah
[05:15] <mortici_> relax
[05:16] <mortici_> reboot the machine and start in recovery mode, that should pop you in as a root user
[05:16] <mortici_> run the following two commands
[05:16] <abwhostw> ok
[05:16] <mortici_> chown root:root /etc/sudoers
[05:16] <abwhostw> which commands
[05:16] <abwhostw> ok
[05:16] <mortici_> chmod 0440 /etc/sudoers
[05:16] <mortici_> and reboot
[05:16] <mortici_> your only gonna be in command prompt
[05:16] <mortici_> no GUI
[05:16] <mortici_> so write them now
[05:16] <mortici_> err down
[05:17] <mortici_> in order to reboot you can hit ctrl+alt+del or type reboot
[05:17] <abwhostw> ok how to use
[05:17] <abwhostw> recovery shell
[05:17] <abwhostw> tarminal
[05:18] <corigo> mortici_ yes, I believe so.
[05:18] <mortici_> corigo: in kmix add the mixers for the capture devices all 3
[05:19] <mortici_> also enable the mixer for input source all 3
[05:19] <mortici_> put checks in all 3 capture boxes and move the sliders to about 80%,70%,75% and change all the input sources to MIC
[05:20] <mortici_> your mic should work fine now
[05:20] <corigo> krec shows no mic levels at all
[05:21] <mortici_> corigo: you have to do it in kmix
[05:21] <corigo> mortici_: yes, I have enabled all mics and all inputs in kmix, but still get no levels on mic
[05:22] <mortici_> ...
[05:24] <corigo> In switches I have set the input to internal mic for both cases
[05:24] <mortici_> corigo: upgrade to 3.00 megabytes per image
[05:24] <corigo> ???
[05:24] <mortici_> corigo: sorry
[05:25] <mortici_> http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/8342/kmixhk4.png
[05:25] <mortici_> does your kmix look like that?
[05:25] <mortici_> does it say HDA Intel in the upper left?
[05:26] <corigo> Nope
[05:26] <mortici_> corigo: nope to what?
[05:26] <corigo> No HDA Intel
[05:26] <corigo> Doesn't look like that
[05:26] <mortici_> what does it say?
[05:26] <corigo> Kmix
[05:26] <mortici_> and you have sound?
[05:27] <corigo> I see it is in the bottom right corner on mine
[05:27] <mortici_> whats that?
[05:27] <corigo> I am using version 2.6.1 and the HDA Intel is in the bottom right corner
[05:28] <mortici_> ok
[05:28] <corigo> You say there is a 3.00 version?
[05:28] <mortici_> well same sound card
[05:28] <mortici_> im on KDE 4.1
[05:28] <mortici_> thats why
[05:28] <mortici_> it doesn't make a difference tho
[05:28] <mortici_> make sure you have the same channels/mixers enabled
[05:28] <mortici_> and set them up to how i have them, it should work
[05:37] <mortici_> what
[05:49] <Colonel_Panic> Having some trouble with Kopete
[05:49] <Colonel_Panic> it won't log in
[05:49] <Colonel_Panic> For some reason, KDEwallet is not starting when I log in to my KDE user account
[05:52] <Colonel_Panic> how can I start kdewallet manually?
[05:54] <genii> alt-f2 kdesu kwalletmanager
[05:55] <yuriy> genii: kdesu? you sure?
[05:56] <genii> yuriy: It's graphial application specific to kde so yes
[05:56] <yuriy> genii: I mean, I didn't know kwalletmanager needs to run as root and I'm wondering why
[05:57] <genii> yuriy: Actually apologies, you're correct
[05:57] <genii> Colonel_Panic: No kdesu neded there
[05:57] <genii> yuriy: I've been running some other stuff all ay that needed it and got stuck into using it of habit there :)
[05:57] <Colonel_Panic> any ideas why Kopete isn't logging me in?
[05:58] <Colonel_Panic> Should I delete and re-create my account?
[05:58] <corigo> mortici_: 	http://www.corigo.com/tmp/kmix.gif
[05:58] <genii> Colonel_Panic: msn?
[05:59] <Colonel_Panic> I have accounts on MSN, Y! and AIM
[05:59] <genii> Colonel_Panic: And all are not logging you in?
[05:59] <Colonel_Panic> correct
[06:01] <genii> Colonel_Panic: Is kopete auto-starting? I have a problem in the order which network comes up so that pidgin for instance tries to connect before network is ready.
[06:01] <mortici_> corigo: and?
[06:02] <corigo> No recording level
[06:02] <mortici_> corigo: pleae turn of digital
[06:02] <Colonel_Panic> It doesn't auto-start when I log into KDE
[06:02] <genii> Colonel_Panic: eg: if you start it after network is already up and established, same result then
[06:02] <mortici_> corigo: on the input tab
[06:03] <mortici_> and turn off the mic on the output
[06:03] <Colonel_Panic> what do you mean by "after network is already up and established"
[06:03] <mortici_> mute the docking mic and internal mic on the OUTPUT
[06:03] <Colonel_Panic> how can I fix this?
[06:04] <corigo> nothing
[06:04] <genii> Colonel_Panic: You already said it does not auto start, so this is then unlikely as the cause. Just ruling out stuff from simplest onwards at this point
[06:04] <mortici_> corigo: what are you using to test mic input?
[06:05] <corigo> Krec
[06:06] <chairman> hello everyone
[06:08] <corigo> mortici_: how do you test?
[06:08] <mortici_> i use mumble a audio chat client lemme install krec
[06:09] <Colonel_Panic> when I enable the system tray icon, it doesn't go intyo the system tray. Instead, it pops up at the upper left-hand corner of the screen
[06:10] <mortici_> corigo: yeah krec doesn't work for me either, it appears to you arts as its backend
[06:10] <genii> Colonel_Panic: I would recommend then delete/re-add an account to test if this works. If not then delete the file in /home/your-user-name/.kde/share/config/     called kopeterc
[06:10] <mortici_> major fail on that part, since your output is placed on alsa....
[06:12] <genii> Colonel_Panic: kde3 or kde4 ?
[06:12] <Colonel_Panic> KDE3
[06:12] <mortici_> Colonel_Panic: sudo kdeinit
[06:12] <mortici_> re launch app and it should dock
[06:12] <genii> Colonel_Panic: OK, the directory there of .kde is correct then in this instance (otherwise would be .kde4 or so)
[06:13] <mortici_> corigo: do me a favor and install mumble
[06:13] <mortici_> and test it with the audio wizard...
[06:14] <Colonel_Panic> Error: "/tmp/ksocket-jalbert" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[06:14] <Colonel_Panic> kdeinit: Shutting down running client.
[06:14] <Colonel_Panic> ---------------------------------
[06:14] <Colonel_Panic> It looks like dcopserver is already running. If you are sure
[06:14] <Colonel_Panic> that it is not already running, remove /home/jalbert/.DCOPserver_jalbert-desktop__0
[06:14] <Colonel_Panic> and start dcopserver again.
[06:14] <Colonel_Panic> ---------------------------------
[06:14] <Colonel_Panic>  
[06:14] <Colonel_Panic> Error: "/tmp/ksocket-jalbert" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[06:14] <Colonel_Panic> KDE Daemon (kded) already running.
[06:14] <Colonel_Panic> oops
[06:14] <Colonel_Panic> didn't mean to select all that
[06:14] <mortici_> wtf
[06:15] <mortici_> Colonel_Panic: pastebin next time ya?
[06:15] <mortici_> :)
[06:15] <mortici_> Colonel_Panic: does this happen all the time
[06:15] <Colonel_Panic> oh hell
[06:15] <Colonel_Panic> it's been  happening a lot lately
[06:16] <Colonel_Panic> well no it appears I'm unable to start new applicaiotns
[06:16] <Colonel_Panic> Klauncher could not be reached via DCOP
[06:17] <mortici_> yeahhhhhhhhh
[06:17] <mortici_> Colonel_Panic: do a sudo rm -rf ~/.DCOPserver_jalbert-desktop__0
[06:17] <mortici_> then sudo kdeinit
[06:18] <Colonel_Panic> ok deleted kopeterc
[06:18] <abby87> mortici_: what is the diff between kdeinit and kdeinint4...?is the latter just specially for kde4?
[06:18] <mortici_> kdeinit4 is for the kde4 dcop
[06:19] <mortici_> since his kde3 apps are not docking properly
[06:19] <mortici_> need to restart
[06:19] <Colonel_Panic> what does -rf mean?
[06:19] <mortici_> whoops thats for folders and files
[06:19] <mortici_> just do rm ...
[06:19] <Colonel_Panic> rm what?
[06:19] <Colonel_Panic> what am I deleting?
[06:19] <faileas> er, r is for recursive f is for force
[06:19] <genii> Colonel_Panic:   -rf means recursive and force
[06:20] <genii> faileas: heh
[06:20] <Colonel_Panic> so mwhat did I just delete?
[06:20] <faileas> genii: too slow ;)
[06:20] <Colonel_Panic> uh yeah
[06:20] <mortici_> Colonel_Panic: .... rm ~/.DCOP <hit Tab it will auto complete>
[06:21] <faileas> in theory a folder called  .DCOPserver_jalbert-desktop__0 (. meaning hidden) and anything below it
[06:21] <genii> Colonel_Panic: That file holds all the settings for kopete which kde looks to when starting it. So if it was some setting you chnged from default in it causing the problem it will make it like first time running it again next time you start it
[06:22] <Colonel_Panic> ok so now what do I have to do?
[06:22] <Colonel_Panic> restart?
[06:22] <genii> Colonel_Panic: Sorry, that would be the one in ~/.kde/share/config    the other dcop one is to reset the dcop system
[06:22] <Colonel_Panic> oh hell
[06:23] <Colonel_Panic> so where is that located?
[06:23] <mortici_> Colonel_Panic: did you rm it?
[06:23] <mortici_> if you did
[06:23] <mortici_> now do sudo kdeinit
[06:24] <Colonel_Panic> I'm getting the same error
[06:24] <Colonel_Panic> should I log out and log back in?
[06:25] <mortici_> try it
[06:29] <Colonel_Panic> ok now at least all my system tray icons are in their proper places
[06:34] <mortici_> good
[06:34] <mortici_> :)
[06:34] <corigo> moritici_: Installed Mumble, how should I configure the installer?
[06:34] <mortici_> running the wizard?
[06:34] <corigo> yes
[06:35] <mortici_> select alsa as output and input
[06:35] <corigo> defaults?
[06:35] <mortici_> and select the device as dmix and dsnoop
[06:35] <mortici_> you should hear tones on the audio test back
[06:35] <mortici_> and then on the mic test you should hear yourself
[06:35] <mortici_> if you don't
[06:35] <mortici_> mess with the settings in kmix till you do
[06:36] <mortici_> i searched for the ibm t61 and people had to mess with it to get the sound to work...
[06:37] <nicolas__> hey i need help on my wlan
[06:37] <nicolas__> im using an atheros in an amdn64 pc
[06:37] <nicolas__> can anyone help me?
[06:38] <nicolas__> anyone there??
[06:38] <genii> nicolas__: A more specific description of the issue plus what model your wifi card is may help
[06:40] <genii> eg: wap.. no encryption/wep/wap?   lspci result of the wifi adapter? ndiswrapper?
[06:41] <nicolas__> nicolas@laptop:~$ lspci
[06:41] <nicolas__> 00:00.0 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation MCP67 Memory Controller (rev a2)
[06:41] <nicolas__> 00:01.0 ISA bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP67 ISA Bridge (rev a2)
[06:41] <nicolas__> 00:01.1 SMBus: nVidia Corporation MCP67 SMBus (rev a2)
[06:41] <nicolas__> 00:01.2 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation MCP67 Memory Controller (rev a2)
[06:41] <nicolas__> 00:01.3 Co-processor: nVidia Corporation MCP67 Co-processor (rev a2)
[06:41] <nicolas__> 00:02.0 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation MCP67 OHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev a2)
[06:41] <nicolas__> 00:02.1 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation MCP67 EHCI USB 2.0 Controller (rev a2)
[06:41] <nicolas__> 00:04.0 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation MCP67 OHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev a2)
[06:42] <nicolas__> 00:04.1 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation MCP67 EHCI USB 2.0 Controller (rev a2)
[06:42] <genii> nicolas__: Only the line regarding the wifi adapter
[06:42] <nicolas__> 00:06.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation MCP67 IDE Controller (rev a1)
[06:42] <nicolas__> 00:07.0 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP67 High Definition Audio (rev a1)
[06:42] <nicolas__> 00:08.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP67 PCI Bridge (rev a2)
[06:42] <nicolas__> 00:09.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation MCP67 AHCI Controller (rev a2)
[06:42] <nicolas__> 00:0a.0 Ethernet controller: nVidia Corporation MCP67 Ethernet (rev a2)
[06:42] <genii> !paste | nicolas__
[06:42] <nicolas__> 00:0c.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP67 PCI Express Bridge (rev a2)
[06:42] <nicolas__> 00:0e.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP67 PCI Express Bridge (rev a2)
[06:42] <nicolas__> 00:12.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce 7000M (rev a2) (rev a2)
[06:42] <nicolas__> 00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] HyperTransport Technology Configuration
[06:42] <nicolas__> 00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address Map
[06:42] <nicolas__> 00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM Controller
[06:42] <nicolas__> 00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control
[06:42] <genii> nicolas__: PLEASE STOP FLOODING
[06:43] <nicolas__> 01:09.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Ricoh Co Ltd R5C832 IEEE 1394 Controller (rev 05)
[06:43] <nicolas__> 01:09.1 SD Host controller: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C822 SD/SDIO/MMC/MS/MSPro Host Adapter (rev 22)
[06:43] <nicolas__> 01:09.2 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C843 MMC Host Controller (rev 12)
[06:43] <nicolas__> 01:09.3 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C592 Memory Stick Bus Host Adapter (rev 12)
[06:43] <nicolas__> 01:09.4 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd xD-Picture Card Controller (rev ff)
[06:43] <nicolas__> 07:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)
[06:43] <nicolas__> sorry
[06:43] <nicolas__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/37334/
[06:43] <nicolas__> that?
[06:43] <genii> <nicolas__:07:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)             is what was wanted
[06:44] <nicolas__> sorry didnt knew... so how can i make it work?
[06:45] <genii> nicolas__: Researching it, please wait
[06:45] <navetz> what does it mean if your command has a return value of 2?
[06:46] <genii> nicolas__: are you using 32 or 64 bit?
[06:46] <nicolas__> 64 bit
[06:46] <nicolas__> athlon x2
[06:49] <genii> nicolas__: I would recommend to try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=816780&highlight=atheros+ar5007eg      however since it has some gnome-specific instructions: wherever it says something like : gksu gedit    replace with: kdesu kate
[06:49] <nicolas__> genii can i whisper you?
[06:50] <mortici_> gnte all
[06:50] <mortici_> have fun!
[06:50] <mortici_> :)
[06:51] <genii> nicolas__: No. I do not accept private message when assisting. Apologies but this is my strict policy
[06:51] <nicolas__> ok dont problem...
[06:51] <nicolas__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/37337/
[06:52] <nicolas__> it doesnt let me
[06:52] <nicolas__> couldnt find build package
[06:53] <DarthFrog> navetz: A return value means whatever the developer wishes it to me.  Other than a return value of 0 indicating a successful completion, there is no standard meaning for any return value.
[06:53] <navetz> DarthFrog: thanks
[06:53] <Colonel_Panic> OK I'm still having troubles every time I log ijnh
[06:53] <Colonel_Panic> *in*
[06:54] <Colonel_Panic> First of all, the system tray icons appear in the upper left corner of the desktop
[06:54] <genii> nicolas__: build-essential is the name   note the - between build and essential
[06:55] <nicolas__> s
[06:55] <nicolas__> thx
[06:55] <Colonel_Panic> second, when Kopete starts up, it is supposed to acces kdewalletmanager to access the passwords for my IM accounts, but the kwalletmanager dialog doesn't pop up to ask for my login, so kopete cannot connect
[06:57] <Colonel_Panic> also, my computer's motherboard has an onboard shitty sound system, so I installed a sound card for better sound, and half the time, Linux uses the onboard sound system, and half the time it uses the sound card so half the times I reboot, I have to go in backl of the machine and switch the 1/8" plug to the opposite jack
[06:58] <Colonel_Panic> the first two issues are more important to me than the sound card issue
[06:59] <Colonel_Panic> but what can I do to fix this system tray icon thing? I have a feeling the problem is somehow related to Compiz-fusion
[06:59] <Colonel_Panic> it always happens right around the time the compiz manager takes over the desktop
[07:00] <robotgeek> Colonel_Panic: i dunno about the systray issue, but you can fix the soundcard issue by blacklisting the onboard driver (prevents it from loading)
[07:00] <Colonel_Panic> how do I do that?
[07:00] <robotgeek> Colonel_Panic: do you know your onboard soundcard driver module name?
[07:01] <Colonel_Panic> is there a way I can add a delay time to the startup applications so they don't start up right at the same time the compiz-fusion is taking over the desktop?
[07:01] <Colonel_Panic> VIA something or other
[07:01] <robotgeek> Colonel_Panic: can you !pastebin the output of lsmod?
[07:02] <DarthFrog> lsmod | grep snd
[07:02] <robotgeek> even better :)
[07:03] <Colonel_Panic> http://pastebin.com/m190d4fc4
[07:03] <DarthFrog> emu10k1 is a SB Live! card.
[07:03] <Colonel_Panic> HDA VIA VT82xx
[07:04] <Colonel_Panic> is how it appears in kmix
[07:04] <genii> snd_intel_hda
[07:04] <DarthFrog> snd_emu10k1 is not for a VIA sound chip.  I
[07:04] <robotgeek> snd_intel_hda sounds like onboard sound
[07:05] <genii> snd_hda_intel  rather, yes
[07:05] <Colonel_Panic> I don't understand why this damn kwalletmanager doesn't ask me to log in when Kopete starts
[07:05] <DarthFrog> For a VIA chip, it'd be snd_via(something or other).
[07:05] <Colonel_Panic> that must be it. I have an Intel chipset on the motherboard
[07:06] <Colonel_Panic> they sound chiop is prollt Intel as well
[07:06] <robotgeek> Colonel_Panic: anyways, add "blacklist snd_hda_intel" to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist (without quotes) and you should be good from the next reboot, hopefully
[07:06] <Colonel_Panic> shit my typing sucks
[07:06] <Colonel_Panic> ok
[07:07] <DarthFrog> Colonel_Panic:  Do you have a SB Live! card installed, along with your on-board sound chip?
[07:08] <Colonel_Panic> \yeah
[07:09] <DarthFrog> Ah.  You might have a conflict then.
[07:09] <Colonel_Panic> I yoinked it out of an old computer I had lying around ehre
[07:09] <Colonel_Panic> so should I remove that driver from the blacklist?
[07:10] <DarthFrog> No.  Blacklist the onboard one if you want to use the Sound Blaster card.
[07:10] <Colonel_Panic> ok
[07:10] <Colonel_Panic> so what about my kwallet woes?
[07:11] <Colonel_Panic> cuz I can't log into my IM accounts until I fix that
[07:11] <DarthFrog> Don't know.  I've had problems with kwallet that I've not managed to figure out myself.
[07:11] <Colonel_Panic> should I disable compiz-fusion?
[07:11] <DarthFrog> If you wish.
[07:12] <rot> ho
[07:12] <Colonel_Panic> thye desktop effects are really kinda pointless and ghey
[07:12] <robotgeek> what are your issues with kwallet?
[07:12] <rot> Hi i have a question
[07:12] <Colonel_Panic> well
[07:12] <rot> I all ready install the apache
[07:12] <rot> and everything
[07:12] <rot> if I want to make my computer to bt see from abother computer like iP
[07:12] <Colonel_Panic> when Kopete starts, it asks wallet for my login passwords
[07:12] <rot> OD DNS
[07:13] <rot> how to do
[07:13] <robotgeek> Colonel_Panic: did you set one up the first time?
[07:13] <DarthFrog> rot: I'm not understanding what you're saying.  What do you want your computer to do?
[07:13] <robotgeek> rot: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DynamicDNS
[07:13] <Colonel_Panic> before it will log in to the IM accounts, it has to get the passwords from the wallet but the wallet doesn't authenticate me so Kopete can'ty log me in
[07:14] <DarthFrog> robotgeek: You're good.  :-)
[07:14] <rot> but I want to use
[07:14] <rot> my own doamin name
[07:14] <Colonel_Panic> set up the wallet? yeah
[07:14] <robotgeek> rot: you will have to point your nameservers to the ip address, i am not sure how that works with dynamic ips
[07:15] <Colonel_Panic> I don't think it will dork with a dynamic IP
[07:15] <robotgeek> Colonel_Panic: i presume you are entering the correct password.
[07:15] <Colonel_Panic> *work*
[07:15] <Colonel_Panic> it never asks me for the password
[07:15] <rot> ok
[07:15] <Colonel_Panic> the dialog never even comes up
[07:15] <Colonel_Panic> untilo
[07:15] <Colonel_Panic> oops
[07:16] <Colonel_Panic> until sometimes when I log out, the dialog box will pop up
[07:16] <Colonel_Panic> I'm thinking I need to hose that damn compiz fusion
[07:16] <robotgeek> Colonel_Panic: i don't have issues with the kwallet on my end, i think compiz might be hidiing your dialogs
[07:17] <rot> http://127.0.0.1/phpmyadmin/index.php?lang=en-utf-8&convcharset=iso-8859-1&collation_connection=utf8_unicode_ci&token=de13703e4ca53cf9b092bbabcd84f9a3
[07:17]  * robotgeek has had issues with compiz doing things like that. till that gets fixed, i am not using it
[07:17] <Colonel_Panic> thing is more dam trouble than it's worth, in a big way
[07:17] <rot> what's the pass word form
[07:17] <rot> phpmyadmin
[07:17] <jkyro> rot, we cannot access your 127.0.0.1 :)
[07:18] <robotgeek> rot: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP#Phpmyadmin%20and%20mysql-admin
[07:18] <Colonel_Panic> can I just uninstall it without messing up my desktop?
[07:18] <nicolas_> genii
[07:18] <robotgeek> Colonel_Panic: sure, just disable desktop effects (or are you talking about kwallet?)
[07:18] <genii> nicolas_: Yes?
[07:19] <nicolas_> finally after weeks trying i got my wlan working
[07:19] <nicolas_> thank you so much
[07:19] <Colonel_Panic> I believe (and this is just a strong educated guess based on my observations) that compiz fusion is starting up right as the dialog is popping up, and for some reason preventing it from appearing
[07:19] <genii> nicolas_: Glad to have assisted
[07:19] <nicolas_> ok bye
[07:19] <Colonel_Panic> then, when I log out, after compiz quits, the dialog appears right before I get logged off
[07:19] <robotgeek> Colonel_Panic: can you run alt + f2 (the run command window should pop up)
[07:20] <robotgeek> if you don't see it, compiz is hiding it.
[07:21] <Colonel_Panic> yeah I'm seeing that, but I'll bet you dollars to donkey... um, penises that it will come up as soon as I log out of KDE
[07:21] <robotgeek> !coc
[07:21] <Colonel_Panic> the Wallet dialog, I mean
[07:21] <Colonel_Panic> oops
[07:21] <jegelie> Hello - can someone help me? I'm trying to make kubuntu boot on an iMac intel
[07:21] <robotgeek> Colonel_Panic: please keep the language civil :)
[07:22] <Colonel_Panic> well I did try to phrase it in a less obscene way ;)
[07:22] <Colonel_Panic> do you know what I'm saying though?
[07:22] <robotgeek> Colonel_Panic: anyways, you can disable kwallet if you so desire.
[07:22] <Colonel_Panic> when I log into KDE, what happens is this:
[07:23] <jegelie> I'm trying to boot from an external Firewire drive, but up till now no go.
[07:23] <robotgeek> jegelie: let me see if i can find a link
[07:24] <robotgeek> jegelie: uggh, okay. that toughens things
[07:24] <jegelie> robotgeek: I think I virtually tried everything...
[07:24] <Colonel_Panic> the desktop appears, then blanks out for a second as compiz fusion takes over, then  when the desktop returns, my systray icons start to appear in the upper-left corner of the screen as tiny windows, instead of systray icons.
[07:25] <jegelie> robotgeek: I'm now with a GPT-partitioned drive, with a small partition to hold MBR.
[07:26] <Colonel_Panic> Then, when I log out, the screen blinks again as compiz shuts down, and the kwallet dialog pops up without any window decorations, then the window decorations sometimes appear, then a few seconds later the screen blinks again and the login scvreen appears.
[07:26] <jegelie> The internal drive has to stay untouched - it holds my OSX (and I haven't got a backup of it - I know, ... but I lack the drivespace for that)
[07:26] <Colonel_Panic> so this leads me to believe compiz is the culprit
[07:26] <robotgeek> jegelie: i tried a couple of years ago to make it boot off usb. i failed :(
[07:26] <robotgeek> Colonel_Panic: disable it, see if it fixes your issue then
[07:27] <jegelie> robotgeek: failed, or gave up to soon ;)
[07:27] <Colonel_Panic> When I just disable compiz while KDe is running, my desktop panel freaks out and displays 16 skinny little desktops
[07:27] <jegelie> robotgeek: as I get it, it must be possible nowadays - even with GRUB.
[07:27] <robotgeek> jegelie: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot/ExternalHardDisk/Firewire does not look too promising
[07:28] <Colonel_Panic> I'm thinking that there may be a way to fix the situation without disabling compiz, if I can delay the launching of the startup apps untilo after compiz has fiunished loading
[07:28] <Colonel_Panic> is this possible?
[07:28] <robotgeek> jegelie: plus, i think those are outdated. they probably refer to the ppc imac
[07:29] <Colonel_Panic> can you put delays on when apps start up when the session starts?
[07:29] <robotgeek> Colonel_Panic: not sure, if you are autostarting using scripts, yes. otherwise, i dunno. sprry
[07:29] <robotgeek> sorry
[07:29] <Colonel_Panic> if not, I'll just have to uninstall compiz fusion altogether
[07:29] <jegelie> robotgeek: yes - that was my experience too. Therefore I thought I'd better ask it to a "live" channel...
[07:29] <Colonel_Panic> cuz this is getting ridiculous
[07:30] <Colonel_Panic> it's been going on for months now and I've just about had it
[07:30] <chipbuddy> lets say i have no use for a gui at all. how do i uninstall it so i'm just left with the command line?
[07:30] <Colonel_Panic> ununstall KDE
[07:30] <robotgeek> jegelie: even this does not look very helpful, https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/10233
[07:30] <Colonel_Panic> *uninstall*
[07:31] <genii> chipbuddy: install ubuntu-minimal then remove packages like kubuntu-desktop xubuntu-desktop   or so on
[07:32] <rot> did any boday know how to make the IP as like Dns with using the more polour sites
[07:32] <rot> and I had domain name
[07:32] <Colonel_Panic> here goes. I'm uninstalling compiz-fusion
[07:32] <rot> www..com
[07:32] <jegelie> robotgeek: well, the last one leaves me thinking about a HFS+ boot CD, in order to fire up the external Linux disk
[07:33] <Colonel_Panic> if you hear a blood-curdling scream or a blue streak of profanity, you
[07:33] <Colonel_Panic> you'll know it screwed up
[07:33] <jegelie> robotgeek: It kinda was the way I pictured it - standaard booting into OS X, with a CD option to boot into Linux.
[07:33] <robotgeek> jegelie: http://www.robotgeek.org/wiki/Main/BootAnywhereCd maybe a good starting point.
[07:34] <genii> rot: If you use some service like dyndns or so, you cannot make something like  www.myname.com point to myname.dyndns.org  easily
[07:34] <genii> rot: Even if you own the domain
[07:34] <chema> Hi to all
[07:34] <robotgeek> well, you could technically redirect from myname.com myname.dyndns.com, but that defeats the purpose, i think :)
[07:35] <robotgeek> hello chema
[07:35] <rot> how to make it
[07:35] <genii> rot: Pay your ISP for a static IP address then in control panel of your domain point the dns name to that IP
[07:35] <jegelie> robotgeek: how do you keep coming up with those links?
[07:35] <rot> I had all ready the domain
[07:35] <rot> pay to who
[07:36] <robotgeek> jegelie: i try and document useful things i have tried, so later when i need to do it again, i don't need to think much :)
[07:36] <chipbuddy> holy crap i'm so happy. i've been spending all this time trying to find some light version of linux (DSL, deli, puppy), but it looks like ubuntu-minimal is all i need
[07:37] <genii> rot: For instance if I have Bell Sympatico for my internet. I ask them to give me an IP address which does not change (static). They charge about $5(Canadian $) a month for this. Then you go to the website from where you control your domain. You put in there as the DNS of your domain the static IP they assigned to you.
[07:39] <jegelie> robotgeek: I'm definitely puzzled about the fact that GRUB hangs. It is the GRUB from the 8.04 Kubuntu LiveCD. When I boot with ALT pressed down (i.e. EFI looks for bootable devices, with BIOS-emulation) I can see the FireWire HD labeled "Windows". That's OK with me. But on boot, it leaves me with a blinking cursor on a black screen.
[07:39] <rot> yeah but i'm rogers
[07:39] <jegelie> robotgeek: do I boot using rEFIt, I get a serie of errors regarding GRUB,
[07:40]  * jegelie pulls up a picture of a bootscreen and types the errors over.
[07:41] <robotgeek> jegelie: does that version of grub even support efi? i think kubuntu comes with 0.97
[07:41] <Colonel_Panic> unbelievable
[07:41] <Colonel_Panic> I uninstalled compiz-fusion but it's still running
[07:41] <Colonel_Panic> I guess it didn't uninstall
[07:42] <Colonel_Panic> how can I just turn it off?
[07:42] <genii> Colonel_Panic: alt-f2 kwin --replace
[07:42] <robotgeek> jegelie: http://grub.enbug.org/TestingOnEFI google provides (and this is grub 2.0 )
[07:42] <jegelie> robotgeek: it says here "Starting legacy loader | Using load options 'USB' | Error: Not found returned fromm legacy loader | Error: Not found from LocateDevicePath"
[07:44] <jegelie> robotgeek: do I need GRUB or GRUB2 at all?
[07:44] <jegelie> robotgeek: (and as I understood, GRUB2 is now referred to as GRUB, and the old GRUB is Legacy GRUB)
[07:45] <robotgeek> jegelie: i am unsure of what refit does. lemme see
[07:45] <ubuntu_> could someone try to help me with an error I get when I try to use my wireless card, it says "Could not parse the XML output from the network configuration backend."    ?
[07:45] <robotgeek> jegelie: my read of that was grub 2 has taken off from grub 0.97, and grub 0.97 is now legacy grub :)
[07:46] <jegelie> robotgeek: that is what I meant (sorry - it's still early morning over here)
[07:47] <rot> #apche
[07:47] <rot> #APACHE
[07:48] <robotgeek> jegelie: i see what refit does. http://refit.sourceforge.net/doc/c2s2_startos.html says something about elilo/grub + files
[07:48] <ubuntu_> or tell me what linux distro would work best in a laptop and has the wireless stuff incuded and working?
[07:48] <Colonel_Panic> Well, compiz-fusion is still installed...
[07:49] <Colonel_Panic> I turned it off and like I expected, my desktop panel got all messed up and all my window decorations disappeared
[07:49] <Colonel_Panic> I had to log out, and when I logged back in, the systray icons went to their proper places
[07:49] <robotgeek> ubuntu_: are you using ubuntu/kubuntu?
[07:49] <ubuntu_> kubuntu
[07:49] <Colonel_Panic> the Wallet dialog opened and I properly got logged into Kopete
[07:50] <Colonel_Panic> we'll see how well it works next time I log out
[07:50] <robotgeek> ubuntu_: does the system recognize your wireless card?
[07:50] <ubuntu_> yes
[07:51] <jegelie> robotgeek: I see. rEFIt can boot GRUB, LILO, elilo, etc. Seems like it is nothing more than a polished EFI. I needed it only to sync MBR with GPT (after which I'm unable to boot from CD holding the "C" key down :( )
[07:51] <ubuntu_> I try to configure it and when I enable it, it tells me "Could not parse the XML output from the network configuration backend." and disables it.
[07:53] <jegelie> robotgeek: guess I'm gonna have to try the CVS GRUB2. Makes me a beta-tester (again  :\  )
[07:53] <robotgeek> jegelie: i have not messed with the macs, so i am pretty clueless on how the rest work. Good luck, and please post your results (after victory!) to the wiki page :)
[07:53] <jegelie> robotgeek: I will definitely do that.
[07:53] <sporkf> http://www.usenet-forums.com/linux-networking/378472-ubuntu-linux-pnl.html
[07:54] <Colonel_Panic> thanks for all the help guys
[07:54] <Colonel_Panic> the problem seems to be fixed for the time being
[07:54] <davidwhitewings> :)
[07:54] <robotgeek> jegelie: maybe this offers some insight/hope http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Debian/2008-07/msg01536.html
[07:55] <Colonel_Panic> just one more question: how do I use chmod to set permissions for a directory?
[07:55] <Colonel_Panic> I have a new hard drive mounted at /media/sdb1
[07:55] <jtmoney> hey guys, i am running the kde4 remix cd as a "live cd" and there's no "install" shortcut on the desktop... is there a command i can run to install kde4 without having to reboot again? :)
[07:56] <davidwhitewings> it's the same to set permissions for dirs just like the files
[07:56] <sporkf> http://articles.eliasalucard.com/ubuntu_lunix_is_racist.xhtml
[07:57] <Colonel_Panic> so I can set permission on the entire drive as if it was just a file?
[07:57] <Colonel_Panic> well... I guess it IS just a file
[07:57] <Colonel_Panic> I mean, this is UNIX
[07:57] <Colonel_Panic> Linux
[07:58] <ubuntu_> between my video card and wireless cards I cant get linux on my laptop.
[07:59] <ubuntu_> eubuntu is cool I have that on my 6 year olds computer
[08:18] <Colonel_Panic> hey
[08:18] <phi> hi all
[08:19] <phi> im using konversation for the first time .... is there a list of channels somewhere?
[08:19] <phi> ha, i found it. just press f5
[08:31] <MetaMorfoziS> Hi all
[08:31] <MetaMorfoziS> I'm under hardy heron with kde 3.5.9.
[08:31] <MetaMorfoziS> My problem is that for a short time krunner or how it named (altf2 dialog) hangs on for a long time
[08:31] <MetaMorfoziS> after executing a cmd
[08:31] <MetaMorfoziS> it means 5-10seconds in frozen state
[08:31] <flaccid> !bugs | MetaMorfoziS
[08:32] <MetaMorfoziS> It's not a bug, i think I'm messed up something
[08:32] <MetaMorfoziS> because it works on every other machines, and it worked here before...
[08:32] <MetaMorfoziS> So the question is, how can i debug this? What can i check?
[08:33] <ubuntu_> lol
[08:33] <MetaMorfoziS> as you think
[08:33] <MetaMorfoziS> :)
[08:33] <ubuntu_> can Somebody help me
[08:33] <MetaMorfoziS> If you don't ask i don'T think...
[08:33] <ubuntu_>  
[08:33] <ubuntu_>  
[08:33] <ubuntu_> Can Anybody Help me with something
[08:34] <MetaMorfoziS> i think you are ignored by now @ the half of the channel
[08:34] <MetaMorfoziS> just ask, don't ask for ask:)
[08:34] <flaccid> is it actually called krunner in kde3
[08:34] <ubuntu_> How Do i Run a SH FIle
[08:34] <MetaMorfoziS> first grant execution of it
[08:34] <MetaMorfoziS> chmod +x foo.sh
[08:34] <ubuntu_> I dont know how
[08:34] <ubuntu_> :D
[08:34] <MetaMorfoziS> then ./foo.sh
[08:35] <ubuntu_> Do i go in terminal
[08:35] <flaccid> ubuntu_: sh ./file.sh
[08:35] <MetaMorfoziS> yeah.
[08:35] <MetaMorfoziS> or if it causes strange errors then bash ./file.sh
[08:36] <ubuntu_> sqlier-0.8.2b.sh
[08:36] <ubuntu_> woops
[08:36] <ubuntu_> Cant find sql.sh
[08:36] <ubuntu_> do i gotta cd to the directory
[08:36] <flaccid> ubuntu_: you can either do that or give the full path
[08:37] <ubuntu_> hmm
[08:37] <ubuntu_> Its not working correctly
[08:37] <eddieftw> hello all, i need help converting a few files from ogg to mp3
[08:38] <flaccid> !doesntwork | ubuntu_
[08:38] <ubuntu_> sweet
[08:38] <ubuntu_> brb guys
[08:38] <flaccid> eddieftw: i think soundkonverter can do that
[08:59] <caspix> hello
[09:03] <phi> hi
[09:06] <pascalFR> ping
[09:07] <flaccid> pong
[09:27] <Schijnn> How do I adjust the properties on a secondary taskbar in 3.5?
[09:57] <waylandbill> I downloaded an iso and did an md5sum of it. It doesn't match the release directory's sum from it's list. Is my only action to correct this to download the iso from scratch?
[09:57] <flaccid> yes
[09:58] <larss0n> hello
[09:58] <larss0n> shit lol
[09:58] <flaccid> !language | larss0n
[09:58] <larss0n> ok, sorry
[09:59] <larss0n> hello
[10:00] <waylandbill> laptop locked up during the transfer. I figured one of the blocks wget wrote out would be bad. Thanks.
[10:01] <MrKennie_> waylandbill: there are ways you can download just the bad parts again. I believe rsync is good at that.
[10:07] <MrKennie_> how are the ati fglrx drivers compared with nvidia these days? nvidia 2d is terrible atm.
[10:08] <flaccid> both have issues. ati probably more
[10:08] <MrKennie_> hrm
[10:08] <MrKennie_> I knew ati have always had troubles, wondered if they have got any better
[10:09] <MrKennie_> that's whty I stuck with nvidia but they seem to be getting worse.
[10:09] <flaccid> fglrx will probably always have big issues the way it keeps going but the radeonhd seems much better but i havnt used it myself with a hd card
[10:10] <MrKennie_> hm
[10:10] <waylandbill> MrKennie_: as good as the hardware I guess. My radeon 200m in my laptop couldn't get out of its own way, but the driver doesn't seem to produce any errors or warnings. :-)
[10:11] <MrKennie_> my issue is 2d, and compiz runs so much better on my laptop which just has Intel graphics.
[10:11] <MrKennie_> surely that aint right :)
[10:11] <waylandbill> I've had far less issues with the nvidia in my desktop. Runs compiz great, not that I use it anymore.
[10:12] <MrKennie_> maybe I should look for an older ati and use the opensource drivers. They've always seemed good.
[10:12] <waylandbill> I have to say that I'm using closed drivers for both though.
[10:13] <MrKennie_> I don't even know if my card is supported anymore now that nvidia re splitting up drivers again.
[10:15] <MrKennie_> maybe I'll wait to see what the news is on the latest drivers is and get something better than I got.
[10:15] <waylandbill> MrKennie_: that definately is a pain them splitting.
[10:16] <MrKennie_> at least ati open their older drivers
[10:16] <MrKennie_> something I guess
[10:16] <flaccid> MrKennie_: that did next to nothing
[10:16] <MrKennie_> really?
[10:16] <MrKennie_> more than nvidia had ever done.
[10:16] <flaccid> do you see any effect?
[10:17] <MrKennie_> the radeon 9000 I got seems to work well
[10:17] <flaccid> yes but imo its their way of relinquishing responsibility
[10:17] <MrKennie_> I guess
[10:17] <waylandbill> I have to agree.
[10:18] <MrKennie_> so it's really jsut a way for ati to score kudos in the opensource world.
[10:18] <MrKennie_> like Via.
[10:19] <flaccid> pretty much. but because of the other issues i don't see many unix users respecting them
[10:19] <waylandbill> if they cared that much, they'd find a way to work with open source  community on new products rather than just aging ones.
[10:20] <MrKennie_> yea, absolutely
[10:23] <mneptok> they do care. about lawyers.
[10:23] <mneptok> and IMO, if nVidia or ATI ever released source code to their drivers, it would be patent lawyer armegeddon
[10:26] <flaccid> ati have done so
[10:45] <ubuntu__> siemka
[10:56] <waylandbill> flaccid: I avoided downloading the entire iso by mounting it and using jigdo-lite. Turns out about 1000 files were good and only 200 to re-download. a little easier on the servers that way.
[10:57] <flaccid> coolio
[10:57] <flaccid> !info jigdo-lite
[10:57] <flaccid> !find jigdo
[10:57] <flaccid> !info jigdo
[10:58] <flaccid> !info jigdo-file
[10:58] <flaccid> weird but thanks for the info!
[10:59] <waylandbill> flaccid: it is useful for upgrading CDs like say 8.04 to 8.04.1. It will use any packages it can find locally and only download ones it doesn't have and rebuild the cd. pretty handy.
[11:00] <flaccid> hmm that is pretty handy
[11:13] <hookoa> help
[11:15] <hookoa> Hello?
[11:16] <waylandbill> hi
[11:16] <hookoa> Hello?
[11:16] <hookoa> Good morning.  Could someone help me with a boot loader question?
[11:17] <waylandbill> they may be able to. don't know until they know the question.
[11:18] <hookoa> I tried to install kubuntu this morning and the installation failed at what seems to be the halfway point of setting up Grub bootloader.
[11:19] <hookoa> Grub 1.5 is telling me I have an Error 5.
[11:19] <hookoa> I've looked online with another computer for a solution, but I couldn't figure out what I need to do.
[11:20] <waylandbill> so the installation never completed?
[11:21] <hookoa> It seems that way.  I reinstalled, and that went through successfully, but when I restarted (after it told me to), there was the same error message.
[11:22] <waylandbill> Error 5 I think means that it cannot find the file that continues the boot process needed by grub on the hard drive (since all of it cannot fit in the MBR)
[11:22] <waylandbill> you may be able to verify the menu.lst and run grub-install to re-install it.
[11:23] <hookoa> Hmm....  Let me figure out how to do that.  Thanks for helping me.
[11:24] <waylandbill> hookoa: you should be able to use the live-cd to boot up and then mount the root partition and install grub to it using grub-install. You'll need to use the --root-directory switch to specify the mount point.
[11:25] <waylandbill> good luck.
[11:32] <nogagplz> Hey guys, is there a guide anywhere on how to disable pulseaudio in kubuntu 8.04?
[11:34] <aprovaux1> tem alguem ai?
[11:35] <hookoa> Once I figure out how to load kubuntu onto my computer, I'll be a bit more helpful, nogagplz.
[11:36] <nogagplz> hehe, I gave up on Kubuntu at 7.04, trying to help a friend :P
[11:36] <aprovaux1> pode me ajudar
[11:39] <aprovaux1> help me
[11:39] <aprovaux1> I want to install in my amsn kubuntu
[11:40] <waylandbill> !info amsn
[11:40] <waylandbill> aprovaux1: did you try installing using adept?
[11:42] <aprovaux1> 	
[11:42] <aprovaux1> ja tried!
[11:42] <waylandbill> aprovaux1: what was the result? an error?
[11:44] <aprovaux1> so in my kubunto so has amsn 0.95, I install the amsn 0.97
[11:45] <waylandbill> aprovaux1: so you wanted a newer version. You downloaded a package from the project site? Was it a source package?
[11:57] <amit> how to remove any application by konsole
[11:57] <amit> please tell me
[11:57] <flaccid> !apt | amit
[11:57] <waylandbill> amit: apt-get remove package
[11:57] <ilembitov> Hi, all. How do I switch to KDE4-edition of Kubuntu and get rid of all Kubuntu-KDE3 packages easiliy?
[11:58] <amit> i tried but not working
[11:58] <waylandbill> amit: not working means what exactly? an error?
[11:59] <amit> amit@amit-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get remove movie player
[11:59] <amit> Reading package lists... Done
[11:59] <amit> Building dependency tree
[11:59] <amit> Reading state information... Done
[11:59] <amit> E: Couldn't find package movie
[11:59] <waylandbill> !paste
[11:59] <amit> this is complet message
[12:00] <waylandbill> amit: movie player isn't the name of the package as it can't be two words. You may mean mplayer?
[12:00] <amit> amit@amit-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get remove movie player
[12:00] <amit> Reading package lists... Done
[12:00] <amit> Building dependency tree
[12:00] <amit> Reading state information... Done
[12:00] <amit> E: Couldn't find package movie
[12:00] <amit> ya right
[12:00] <amit> its totem movie player
[12:00] <amit> how i can uninstall it
[12:01] <waylandbill> !totem
[12:02] <waylandbill> !info totem
[12:02] <waylandbill> amit: apt-get remove totem
[12:02] <amit> ok
[12:03] <amit> thanks buddy its work
[12:03] <waylandbill> amit: FYI, apt wants the name of the actual package, not how it appears in the menu.
[12:04] <waylandbill> you're welcome.
[12:04] <amit> but it still on program menu
[12:04] <nogagplz> Okay so how can I get rid of pulseaudio, and go back to alsa? just sudo aptitude purge pulseaudio?
[12:04] <caspi1> hello
[12:04] <amit> its not remove
[12:04] <caspi1> i just installed kde4 on my ubuntu, and i need some help with panel....can somebody help me?
[12:05] <waylandbill> amit: pastebin the output of the apt-get remove command.
[12:05] <waylandbill> caspi1: #kubuntu-kde4
[12:05] <caspi1> ok
[12:05] <amit> where is pastebin
[12:05] <waylandbill> !pastebin
[12:05] <amit> i dont for that
[12:05] <amit> ok
[12:07] <caspi1> there is noone answering...
[12:09] <waylandbill> amit: it appears that it removed it okay.
[12:11]  * flaccid yawns
[12:11] <flaccid> !kde4 | caspi
[12:11] <flaccid> oops
[12:13]  * waylandbill graps flaccid a cup of coffee.
[12:14] <flaccid> im drinking beer :)
[12:15] <waylandbill> 7 am here. not quite time for a cold beer... yet. ;-)
[12:20] <flaccid> ahahaha
[12:45] <neukadmin> hi, I installed the last xen kernel for my pc, but every boot up I get an error like this: "timeout waiting for ADMA IDLE, stat 0x0" and the system reboots, what can I do now?
[13:02] <waylandbill> neukadmin: tell grub to boot the kernel you had before you put that kernel in.
[13:02] <vsudilov_> hm anyone know how to automatically remove white border space from PDFs?
[13:04] <devius> i just wanted to ask if i should update my hardy heron alpha release via internet or download and make a new installation
[13:07] <neukadmin> waylandbill I bootet with the old non xen kernel (this way I can use irssi right now) but I do need xen support, which this old kernel doesnt have
[13:34] <phi> hi all
[13:34] <flaccid> howdy
[13:35] <phi> got a strange problem: 4GB ram .....
[13:36] <phi> when I user the generic kernel i get 3.1GB - when i use the server kernel power management sucks (fan is always running)  ....
[13:37] <phi> Are there any solutions without compiling a custom kernel???????
[13:38] <concernedcitizen> !kerberos
[13:40] <phi> is this the right forum to ask such a question or should i post it somwhere else?
[13:56] <madagascar> I need major help
[13:56] <madagascar> I lost my gui
[13:56] <madagascar> all i have is my command line
[13:57] <faileas> madagascar: try startx ?
[13:58] <madagascar> greg:/usr/lib/kde4/etc/kde4/kdm/kdmrc: no such file or directory stopping KDisplay manager : kde-kde4 not running c/var/run/run/kdm-kde.pid not found
[13:58] <fredthemonkey> hi. i can't install the "samba" package from adept - it says broken and no further info.
[13:58] <madagascar> how do i start startx
[14:01] <fredthemonkey> how can i get it to install?
[14:02] <flaccid> fredthemonkey: try it from konsole and advise the errors ie. sudo apt-get install samba
[14:02] <flaccid> !samba | fredthemonkey
[14:03] <madagascar> how do i start startx
[14:04] <fredthemonkey> http://paste.ubuntu.com/37410/
[14:04] <fredthemonkey> so i better compile it from source?
[14:04] <flaccid> madagascar: it does it for you
[14:05] <madagascar> flaccid: hey yea i couldnt do it last night
[14:05] <flaccid> fredthemonkey: apt-cache policy samba please
[14:06] <madagascar> flaccid: i did what you told me to do and this was the error 'greg:/usr/lib/kde4/etc/kde4/kdm/kdmrc: no such file or directory stopping KDisplay manager : kde-kde4 not running c/var/run/run/kdm-kde.pid not found'
[14:06] <flaccid> madagascar: ok so as you can see a blobal kde config file is missing, lets look on the packages site to see which pkg it is in
[14:06] <untiled> hi, if i try to mount my iphone with iphone-mount as is written on ubuntu help konsole tell me "Please add yourself to the fuse group, logout/in and try again." what it mean?
[14:07] <flaccid> untiled: goto system settings and add yourself to the group 'fuse'
[14:07] <fredthemonkey> flaccid: http://paste.ubuntu.com/37413/
[14:07] <flaccid> madagascar: sudo apt-get install --reinstall kdm-kde4
[14:08] <flaccid> fredthemonkey: ok same thing with samba-common now please
[14:08] <fredthemonkey> okay
[14:08] <madagascar> flaccid: do i need to do anything else lik that ctrl alt f2
[14:09] <fredthemonkey> http://paste.ubuntu.com/37415/ here we go :)
[14:09] <BlueAidan_work> does the kubuntu 8.04.1 live dvd use kde 4.1?
[14:09] <flaccid> madagascar: maybe but if its just a missing file a reinstall might do it
[14:09] <flaccid> BlueAidan_work: no
[14:10] <madagascar> flaccid: thank  ill be back hopfully it will be the last time
[14:10] <BlueAidan_work> hrrm, I really don't even want to mess with kde3 on this new box.
[14:10] <flaccid> ok
[14:10] <fredthemonkey> flanccid: http://paste.ubuntu.com/37415/
[14:10] <BlueAidan_work> does the kubuntu-desktop package use kde 4.1?
[14:11] <flaccid> fredthemonkey: didn't you already show me this?
[14:11] <gnumm> what is the best java plugins for 64bit firefox?
[14:11] <flaccid> BlueAidan_work: please read the topic for details
[14:11] <fredthemonkey> flaccid: yes, sorry. i thougt you didn't see it
[14:11] <flaccid> fredthemonkey: if my name is in it, i see it
[14:11] <flaccid> fredthemonkey: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[14:11] <fredthemonkey> flaccid: okay
[14:12] <flaccid> fredthemonkey: at this point it looks like you have to disable hardy-updates to install it
[14:13] <fredthemonkey> flaccid: http://paste.ubuntu.com/37416/
[14:13] <fredthemonkey> flaccid: but then it wouldn't be the newest version, right?
[14:14] <flaccid> fredthemonkey: no it wouldn't. i don't see updates in there. can you please run a sudo apt-get update then try again?
[14:14] <fredthemonkey> flaccid: okay
[14:16] <fredthemonkey> flaccid: it gives me the same error
[14:17] <fredthemonkey> flaccid: i guess i better compile it from source and get the newest version that way
[14:17] <flaccid> there should be no need. you could install it manually with dpkg -i --force-overwrite anyway
[14:18] <flaccid> maybe im ready it the wrong way around. goto adept and enable updates and try again
[14:18] <flaccid> ready=reading
[14:19] <fredthemonkey> flaccid: what do you mean with enable updates? my system is up to date and gets updates as soon as they are out. i manually checked for updates, too.
[14:19] <flaccid> fredthemonkey: manage repositories in adept and enable the updates repos
[14:20] <untiled> how to mount an ssh server?
[14:20] <fredthemonkey> flaccid: ah i guess i understand you now. okay, i did that. lets see...
[14:21] <fredthemonkey> huh? now there's a whole bunch of updates? how come this wasn't activated O_O?
[14:22] <madagascar> flaccid: i did it but nothing changed
[14:22] <baudthief> Is there any real way to move from 32Bit Kubuntu to 64Bit Kubuntu without a complete reinstall of everything? (I need the missing 800MB RAM heh)
[14:22] <flaccid> i have no idea what this means or whatever:
[14:22] <flaccid>  *** 3.0.28a-1ubuntu4.4 0
[14:22] <flaccid>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[14:22] <baudthief> ie: without formatting
[14:24] <fredthemonkey> flaccid: maybe it works after these updates :)
[14:24] <flaccid> what updates?
[14:24] <fredthemonkey> flaccid: that update flag i set in adept which wasnt activated by default for some strange reason
[14:25] <flaccid> its still fetching updates?
[14:25] <fredthemonkey> yep
[14:25] <timo_> hi all, I
[14:25] <fredthemonkey> 126 updates total
[14:25] <timo_> I'm trying to get alt symbols in Kubuntu
[14:25] <madagascar> flaccid: what should i do now
[14:26] <flaccid> fredthemonkey: you have to wait for that before you try to install it, thus the reason for updating the list. this is likely the problem.
[14:26] <timo_> but it doens't work...
[14:26] <flaccid> madagascar: start kdm-kde4
[14:26] <madagascar> how do  i do that
[14:26] <timo_> not in kate, not in openoffice, not in firefox...
[14:26] <fredthemonkey> flaccid: yes that propably is it. :) i'll write back, when its done
[14:27] <flaccid> madagascar: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm-kde4 start
[14:27] <flaccid> fredthemonkey: ok
[14:27] <madagascar> and then
[14:30] <flaccid> madagascar: it should start kdm
[14:32] <timo_> I'm trying to get alt symbols in Kubuntu, but I had no luck so far... googled it already.
[14:33] <timo_> in firefox, some characters appear when I use the "ctrl-shift-U ..." method, but not all of them
[14:34] <timo_> for example, when I want an "e" with a line on it (can't type it here, but it's used often in Dutch), I get a box with "0082" in it.
[14:35] <timo_> however, according to this table, it should give me the /e: http://www.cdrummond.qc.ca/cegep/informat/Professeurs/Alain/files/ascii.htm
[14:36] <Taggnostr> timo_, maybe you need some font that supports them
[14:36] <timo_> can somebody confirm this bug?
[14:37] <timo_> Taggnostr: that could be the problem... but where do I find them?
[14:37] <tsuna27> flaccid: thank you this is madagascar
[14:37] <tsuna27> it now works
[14:37] <flaccid> tsuna27: all good?
[14:37] <flaccid> madagascar is an awesome trance track anyway glad you fixed it
[14:38] <fredthemonkey> flaccid: woo its installing. thanks a bunch - with out you i wouldn't even have noticed that it wasnt updatin some packages anmore!
[14:38] <Taggnostr> !fonts
[14:38] <tsuna27> flaccid: madagascar is also my nickname in real life
[14:38] <Taggnostr> timo_, try there
[14:39] <tsuna27> #UBUNTU
[14:39] <fredthemonkey> flaccid: now samba is installed :) :)
[14:39] <timo_> Taggnostr: thanks
[14:40] <flaccid> cool two happy users tonight yay
[14:40] <fredthemonkey> :D
[14:40] <timo_> Taggnostr: but are you sure it's the fonts? Not the character set or something?
[14:41] <Taggnostr> when it is an encoding problem you see wrong char or a black <?>
[14:42] <timo_> no I get a small square box with the numeric code of the symbol I'm trying to insert
[14:42] <Taggnostr> afaik if no font in the system has that letter it can't be displayed
[14:42] <timo_> ok
[14:42] <Taggnostr> that it's used instead of the missing char
[14:42] <timo_> got firefox 3
[14:43] <Taggnostr> if you check on wikipedia there are links too
[14:43] <Taggnostr> in the help page about fonts there are both links and tutorial that explain how to obtain/install these fonts
[14:44] <Taggnostr> try to go in a random page with strange characters, if you are lucky you will find a link to this page, otherwise just search it
[14:44] <timo_> ah, thank you very much
[14:47] <tsuna27> how can i edit my log inscreen in admin mode
[15:18] <ville88> hello can anyone help me with  GPROFTPD? cant get anyone to access my ftp server
[15:20] <timo_> Taggnostr: I found out that the unicode characters I was trying to get just have a different code on my system
[15:21] <timo_> to get the e with the stripe, I had to use UE9 instead of U82
[15:21] <timo_> e9
[15:31] <DarkTan> ok, how do i get my pcmcia wireless card working in 8.04?
[15:31] <DarkTan> i'm using xubuntu rightnow, but that channel appears to be dead
[15:33] <Talia187> Quelqun parle francais ici ?
[15:34] <faileas> !fr
[15:34] <faileas> non...
[15:34] <Talia187> Ah okay nan parce que la dernière fois tout le monde parlait anglais xD
[15:45] <faileas> pardon, ma francais n'est pas tres bon, je etudy a... un anne
[15:45] <faileas> (and my spelling is aweful ;p)
[15:47] <waylandbill> !fr
[15:47] <DarkTan> need help using my pcmcia wireless card in 8.04
[15:50] <administrateur> Test of text
[15:53] <faileas> waylandbill: yeah, did that. and that was about all the french i can muster right now ;p
[16:03] <chipbuddy> i'm installing ubuntu minimal on an old lap top. one of the install screens says "low memory mode" and then it wants me to select the encoding of the console. the default choice is "UTF-8"... what is this screen?
[16:04] <Agent_bob> it's to help you be able to read the setup instructions     if you can read this, then utf8 should be fine
[16:05] <faileas> ubuntu minimal? never heard of it
[16:06] <Agent_bob> !info ubuntu-minimal
[16:06] <faileas> Agent_bob: i mean, it it another distro?
[16:07] <chipbuddy> i found an old laptop that has 64 mb of ram. i've tried other lightweight linux distros, but all of them kind of bothered me.
[16:07] <Agent_bob> another distro ?     no.    you have ubuntu-minimal + kubuntu-desktop    the minimal is the base system   the OS  if you will.
[16:08] <faileas> Agent_bob: ahh, ok
[16:10] <Agent_bob> chipbuddy after you get that installed you can  apt-get install x-window-system-core fluxbox xdm mc elinks        and have a light weight gui to run on it. + file manager and web browser
[16:10] <Agent_bob> just a sujestion of package.   you will probably want to select your own.  but the  x-window-system-core  will put xorg on it.
[16:12] <chipbuddy> agent_bob: i'll be happy with just a command line. really i just want to be able to program around the house. one of the (many) problems with this laptop is has no internet connection, so my normal method of installing software (synaptic and apt-get) won't work
[16:13] <faileas> chipbuddy: use another box/vm to install, then copy to CD?
[16:13] <faileas> using aptoncd, or just coping out apt's cache
[16:13] <chipbuddy> whoah... thanks for those ideas
[16:14] <faileas> chipbuddy: i had similar problems before XD
[16:15]  * Agent_bob just copies all dl'd packages to cd and makes symlinks in /var/cache/apt/archives   then i can use the same cd on any box  and add to it from the main box.     well i use a dvd rather than a cd  but you get the gest
[16:16] <rot> how to assign the IP
[16:16] <Agent_bob> knetwork manager
[16:16] <Agent_bob> ifconfig ?
[16:16] <faileas> Agent_bob: well, the basic idea is there ;p
[16:17] <faileas> hmm
[16:17] <faileas> there IS a minimal ubuntu disk
[16:17] <Agent_bob> edit /etc/network/interfaces ?
[16:17]  * faileas whoots
[16:17] <Agent_bob> @ rot
[16:17] <rot> how to opene the file
[16:17] <rot> yeah
[16:17] <Agent_bob> which file ?
[16:18] <Agent_bob> i offered three solutions
[16:18] <faileas> rot: sudo nano (or text editor of choice) /etc/network/interface ?
[16:18] <rot> ok
[16:18]  * faileas tend to use nano for everything ;p
[16:18] <Agent_bob> the first of which would be the "kubuntu way"
[16:18] <rot> ok I opene the file
[16:19] <rot> and what I gone write inside the file
[16:19] <Agent_bob> rot example only    http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d4394c4c8
[16:20] <rot> my file is empty
[16:20] <Agent_bob> sounds like you opened a new file
[16:21] <Agent_bob> case sensitive
[16:21] <faileas> (i think i left out the s...)
[16:21] <Agent_bob> !tab
[16:21] <rot> I open with ur cmd
[16:23] <Agent_bob> ur ?
[16:23] <rot> for exmaple I have this ip 72.232.17.137 how to make
[16:23] <rot> remote form outside
[16:25]  * Agent_bob reverts to first sujestion.
[16:25] <Agent_bob> knetwork manager
[16:26] <rot> ok and after
[16:26] <rot> 192.168.1.101
[16:28] <faileas> Agent_bob: i think so too >_>
[16:29] <rot> * Agent_bob help
[16:29] <Agent_bob> rot ok.  lets stop playing the "i'm too lazy to type it all out" game, and why don't you tell us exactly what you are trying to do.  then someone here might be able to walk you through it.     i don't have enough information at present to be able to do more than point you at the gui tool.
[16:30] <Agent_bob> !network
[16:33] <Agent_bob> i wasn't trying to be rude,  it's just that this question "<rot> how to assign the IP" makes too many assumptions   and my first few seemed to be incorrect.
[16:35] <Taggnostr> timo_, Char: é - Codepoint: U+00E9 - Name: LATIN SMALL LETTER E WITH ACUTE - Category: Ll - Block: Latin-1 Supplement
[16:35] <Taggnostr> this one?
[16:42] <mizipzor_> is there a command for exiting the X server and doing stuff in just shell? it seems to restart as soon as i shut it down
[16:43] <federico_> castellano alguien porfavor?
[16:44] <khaije1> why can't i find a .torrent for the stable a/o testing netinst cds?
[16:44] <khaije1> the http d/l is ass slow
[16:44] <mizipzor_> federico_: try in english and i might be able to help :)
[16:44] <rot> ok don't worry nothing happen
[16:45] <timo_> Taggnostr: yes, that one
[16:47] <khaije1> ::ahem:: nevermind
[16:49] <rot>  ok
[16:50] <roldyx> hello my kubuntu freeze.. how do i repair it probloblem??
[16:51] <Agent_bob> !bug
[16:52] <roldyx> Agent_bob: is it for me?
[16:52] <Agent_bob> if you find one.  yes.
[16:52] <roldyx> Agent_bob: but I dont know because freeze my notebook
[16:53] <roldyx> the freeze is random
[16:53] <Agent_bob> first thing is diagnosing the problem    second is determining if it is a bug or a blunder.  then repairing or devising a work-around for the particular issue.       without step one.  step two and three are moot
[16:54] <Agent_bob> roldyx you can check the log files in /var/log   to see if several old logs end with the same thing   which might indicate either normal shutdown or the hang up
[16:56] <Agent_bob> roldyx you can test the "magic sysRQ" keys to see if it is hung or the display has stopped responding.     exapmle;  alt+sysRQ+u  alt+sysRQ+b   if that reboots the system was not hung.  if not it's hung.
[16:58] <roldyx> Agent_bob: sysRQ??
[16:59] <Agent_bob> yes sysRQ   on qwerty 104 pc keyboards  it's on the same key as [print screen]     kernel hotkeys are   alt+sysRQ+[r,e,u,o,b]   there are others but those are about all that seem useful to me.
[16:59] <Agent_bob> on some notebooks you'll have to just look for it.
[17:00] <Agent_bob> break out the ole monical and hunt it up...
[17:01] <DarkTan> i need some help installin a pcmcia wireless card under 8.04
[17:01] <DarkTan> !info pcmcia
[17:01] <DarkTan> !info wireless
[17:01] <Agent_bob> !wifi
[17:02] <Agent_bob> !info pcmciautils
[17:02] <DarkTan> ahh, thanks you
[17:02] <Agent_bob> and you'll want  kernel-pcmcia-modules-`uname -r`   if you don't have that already
[17:02] <DarkTan> can i d/l pcmciautils to usb drive?
[17:03] <Agent_bob> sure
[17:03] <Agent_bob> !packages
[17:03] <DarkTan> the comp i'm installing to has no internet at all
[17:03] <DarkTan> does it matter that i'm using xubuntu?
[17:04] <Agent_bob> see teh url ^.   and no it doesn't matter.   *buntu == *buntu == *buntu      same system same packages.   different defaults
[17:05] <DarkTan> ok, which one do i need for an AMD k6?
[17:05] <Agent_bob> teh   hah.   sorry.    the ^
[17:05] <DarkTan> i386?
[17:05] <Agent_bob> DarkTan the one that matches the kernel.
[17:05] <mizipzor> startx problem with nvidia driver: dmesg past http://pastebin.com/f7e51d7e8
[17:05] <mizipzor> seems to be a version missmatch, anyone know how to fix?
[17:05] <DarkTan> how do i tell what kernel i'm using?
[17:06] <Agent_bob> that's why i said     kernel-pcmcia-modules-`uname -r`  <<<
[17:06] <DarkTan> oh
[17:06] <Agent_bob> uname -r
[17:06] <DarkTan> i assume i'm supposed to type that in a terminal?
[17:06] <Agent_bob> yeah
[17:07] <Agent_bob> !nv | mizipzor reinstall the driver maybe ?
[17:08] <Agent_bob> proprietary drivers will require reinstall with each kernel subversion
[17:08] <Agent_bob> subverted kernels anyway !
[17:10] <mizipzor> Agent_bob: already tried that ... :/
[17:11] <roldyx> Agent_bob: i found this error
[17:11] <roldyx> (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)
[17:11] <roldyx> Atom 4, CARD32 4, unsigned long 4
[17:12] <DarkTan> "bash: kernel-pcmccia-modules-: command not found"
[17:13] <DarkTan> pcmcia*
[17:13] <DarkTan> what should i try next Agent_bob?
[17:13] <Agent_bob> !nv | roldyx driver maybe ?
[17:15] <Agent_bob> DarkTan you enter what i said.     uname -r    to see the kernel version      you want the package  kernel-pcmcia-modules-`uname -r`  <<< that is not a command it's a package name.    the command would be something like   sudo apt-get install kernel-pcmcia-modules-`uname -r`
[17:16] <Agent_bob> but the apt-get command will not work if you are not networked so youll have to first get the package and make it local then use   sudo dpkg -i kernel-pcmcia-modules-`uname -r`    in the same dir with the package or supply the path to it.
[17:17] <DarkTan> ok, kernel is 2.6.24-19-generic
[17:17] <rot> how to make public_ftp
[17:17] <Agent_bob> there ya go.   now visit the url   http://packages.ubuntu.com
[17:17] <Agent_bob> !ftp
[17:18] <Agent_bob> !ftpd
[17:18] <DarkTan> ok, is this what i'm looking for? http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/pcmciautils
[17:19] <Agent_bob> rot but might i sujest  sshd + scp   more secure than ftp.
[17:20] <Agent_bob> DarkTan doesn't look like it.     do you have a *buntu box that is networked ?
[17:20] <DarkTan> can;t
[17:20] <DarkTan> it has no NIC
[17:21] <DarkTan> i'm the only thing i have for it is the pcmcia card
[17:21] <Agent_bob> so you don't have ubuntu on anything else
[17:21] <DarkTan> no, not yet
[17:21] <DarkTan> after i get this one down, i have a several boxes to do
[17:22] <Agent_bob> would be most simple with one that is networked first   then you could use apt on that box to fetch packages for the others
[17:22] <DarkTan> hm...I didn't know i could do that
[17:23] <DarkTan> i guess that will be tonight's project
[17:24] <DarkTan> thanks for the help thi
[17:24] <DarkTan> tho*
[17:24] <shadowhywind> is it safe to delete everything in the /tmp folder?
[17:25] <Agent_bob> exapmle; (+net) sudo apt-get -d install kernel-pcmcia-modules-2.6.24-19-generic ;cp /var/cache/apt/archives/* /mnt/usbstick     (-net)  sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/usbstick ;sudo dpkg -i /mnt/usbstick/*
[17:25] <Agent_bob> using (net)  to indicate which box the command is on.
[17:26] <Agent_bob> and using a usb stick to transfer the files
[17:26] <Agent_bob> anyway you can get the gest from that.
[17:27] <Agent_bob> shadowhywind sure.  if you are about to reboot
[17:27] <Agent_bob> shadowhywind tmp "should" be cleaned each boot time anyway.
[17:27] <shadowhywind> Agent_bob i just found that online, hehe
[17:28] <shadowhywind> I am doing a backup of my entire system.. I will remove tmp from that backup since it looks like it doesn't matter.. hehe
[17:28] <Agent_bob> shadowhywind use a switch to exclude  /dev /proc /sys /tmp
[17:29] <Agent_bob> backup all the rest.
[17:29] <mizipzor_> could someone in here give me the pastebin link i posted a few minutes ago? lost it when i switched client :p
[17:29] <shadowhywind> \those 4 will be recreated on startup?
[17:29] <Agent_bob> shadowhywind three of those four are in ram.
[17:29] <Agent_bob> mizipzor_ same nick ?
[17:30] <shadowhywind> oh hehe
[17:30] <Agent_bob> http://pastebin.com/f7e51d7e8
[17:30] <mizipzor_> Agent_bob: except underscore, yea
[17:31] <Agent_bob> yeah i dropped the underscore and found it.
[17:31] <Agent_bob>             ^
[17:31] <shadowhywind> and Agent_bob any ideas on why i am getting bzip2: Data integrity error when decompressing. errors when i try to un tar some of my backup files?
[17:32] <Agent_bob> mizipzor_   heh.   grep mizipzor IrcLog | grep http         maybe you should log your irc client  :)
[17:32] <Agent_bob> shadowhywind cause they are gzip rather than bzip2 format ?
[17:33] <Agent_bob> try -z rather than -j  on them
[17:33] <shadowhywind> using sudo tar -cvjf ../disk/backup4.tar.bz2 <folderto tar> to tar.. and using sudo tar -xvjf backup4.tar.bz2   to untar
[17:34] <Agent_bob> or actually   you might try    tar -xf     it should decompress automagicly nowadays
[17:35] <shadowhywind> k, will give that a try and see what happens
[17:35]  * Agent_bob seldom ever uses -v on a tarball     no error means no error in linux...
[17:37] <Agent_bob> shadowhywind another tool you could use on that is    file backup4.tar.bz2      should tell you what compression it used.
[17:37] <Agent_bob> file is as handy as a pocket on a shirt
[17:37] <shadowhywind> hehe
[17:37] <mmm> hi all
[17:37] <shadowhywind> I will give that a shot on the next backup file, hehe
[17:38] <mizipzor_> Agent_bob: my client wasnt on at the time, hence the problem :)
[17:38] <Agent_bob> mizipzor_ problem solved.  happy camper.
[17:38] <kun-10> hi
[17:38] <jonathan_> hello!
[17:38] <mizipzor_> Agent_bob: thanks :)
[17:38] <ville88> anyone know a good program to record the desktop?
[17:38] <kun-10> i need help
[17:39] <jonathan_> i wan't to use a absolute path to a samba network pc in windows
[17:39] <jonathan_> just entering smb://workingplace/BOOT (C) don't work
[17:39] <jonathan_> what can i do to do this?
[17:39] <kun-10> Sound disappeared!!
[17:39] <kun-10>  smb://workingplace/BOOT
[17:40] <Agent_bob> does smp now insert the third / like it should, or do you still need   smb:///blahblahblah
[17:40] <kun-10> anyone can help me
[17:41] <jonathan_> hm it don't work
[17:41] <Agent_bob> !sound | kun-10 if the wiki can't i probably can't
[17:41] <kun-10> i have Kubuntu
[17:42] <mmm> How can i append automatically a pasword to the recovery kernel options?
[17:42] <mmm> in grub
[17:42] <mmm> menu.lst
[17:42] <Agent_bob> mmm does the grub howto cover that ?  i havent looked
[17:42] <kun-10> can you enter to my computer
[17:42] <Agent_bob> !grub
[17:42] <kun-10> ?
[17:43] <mmm> imho it isn't tells about this but i check
[17:43] <kun-10> can you enter to my computer
[17:43] <kun-10> can you enter to my computer?
[17:44] <kun-10> can you enter to my computer to fix the problme?
[17:44] <mmm> yeah, it isn't tells about that
[17:44] <Agent_bob> mmm well i use lilo cause grub is too weak for my system, so i can't really help with that.  i know some of the basics of grub  but that's about it.    sorry.
[17:44] <mmm> okay, thanks
[17:44] <kun-10> can you enter to my computer to fix the problme?
[17:44] <Agent_bob> maybe someone else. can
[17:45] <Agent_bob> kun-10 i'm not going to.  so the question can i is moot.    go to the page and follow it...  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[17:45] <kun-10> i go
[17:46] <kun-10> i do it
[17:46] <Agent_bob> it that doesn't get you there.   maybe someone else will step up to help in here.
[17:46] <kun-10> plz
[17:46] <Agent_bob> s/it/if/
[17:46] <kun-10> enter to my computer
[17:47] <KarlaJ> Hello! I am trying to install KUBUNTU, however, when clicking "install" the resolution gets HUGE, enormous and I cant see where to click.. Each letter is larger then half the screen
[17:47] <jonathan_> hm i still don't know how to access a samba-connected windows pc via a path in the konsole... :(
[17:47] <kun-10> agent_bob
[17:47] <kun-10> can you enter to my computer
[17:48] <Agent_bob> KarlaJ does the screen scroll when you move the mouse to the edges ?
[17:49] <KarlaJ> No , i tried that, didnt work
[17:49] <KarlaJ> Tried to resize, didnt work either
[17:49] <kun-10> can you enter to my computer
[17:49] <kun-10> i will install fedroa 9
[17:49] <kun-10> good luck
[17:49] <Agent_bob> k,  i had a thought,  but you shot it down before it left the ground
[17:50] <kuru> listo funciono muchas gracias.....
[17:50] <KarlaJ> :(
[17:50] <KarlaJ> Noone of you ever had that problem?
[17:51] <Agent_bob> KarlaJ i have never seen anything like that. so don't know what to tell you.   if you have the bandwidth for it.  the "alternate install" iso should let you install with the old text style installer.
[17:51] <Agent_bob> !install
[17:51] <KarlaJ> Agent_bob; Ok, is it on kubuntu/ubuntus webpage? I am new with linux
[17:51] <KarlaJ> Ok thanks
[17:51] <Agent_bob> welcome.
[18:23] <vilhelm> he jag har ett problem .. när jag går in i media-dolphin hittar jag inga enheter
[18:24] <vilhelm> oops sry
[18:24] <vilhelm> wrong channel
[18:24] <vilhelm> i have problem when i go into media dolphin i cant find any thing
[18:25] <vilhelm> cant find my disks
[18:27] <Agent_bob> not in disks group ?
[18:27] <sigma_za> finally... a qt firefox
[18:28] <untiled> you put /media or system:/media/  ??
[18:28] <vilhelm> Agent -bob nope
[18:29] <Agent_bob> untiled what happens when you put   media:/   in the location bar of dolphin ?
[18:29] <untiled> not media: but system:/media/
[18:30] <untiled> it show your psichical disk (partition, pen disk, floppy)
[18:30] <mn> i sudo apt-get installed firefox3 in kubuntu. how can i run it without typing exec firefox in konsole?
[18:31] <Agent_bob> vilhelm    koncole command    mount    #will show what is mounted and where.   or  df -h        and  sudo fdisk -l   # will list hdd partitions   as will   cat /proc/partitions
[18:31] <untiled> mn you can't find on k menu>internet?
[18:31] <Agent_bob> untiled that assumes that your user can access them   no?
[18:32] <mn> untitled, where? (i just got kubuntu today)
[18:32] <untiled> agent_bob yes, i can see it
[18:33] <Agent_bob> mn  kmenu > internet > firefox
[18:33] <anjos> opa algum Brasil ai?
[18:33] <mn> im in KDE 4. on my menu all i have is favorites, applications, computer, recently used, and leave
[18:33] <Agent_bob> !pt
[18:34] <Agent_bob> mn  hmmm   kde4 channel is   #kubuntu-kde4
[18:34] <mn> ... ok
[18:34] <anjos> obrigado
[18:36] <untiled> what mean "/bin/sh is needed by VMware-server-1.0.6-91891.i386"? i esc when i try to install vmware via rpm
[18:37] <mn> if i apt-get ubuntu-desktop, how can i switch between kde and gnome?
[18:38] <untiled> mn on log in screen there is a menu in wich you can choose desktop
[18:38] <mn> mk thx
[18:39] <Agent_bob> untiled rpm ?    rpm is redhat package manager
[18:40] <Agent_bob> ubuntu is a debian dirivative and uses   dpkg = the Debian PacKage Manager
[18:40] <untiled> agent_bob sudo apt-get install rpm and you can use it, is in official repository
[18:41] <untiled> i can istall software from deb and rpm
[18:41] <Agent_bob> but it obviously breaks things.   /bin/sh is a symlink to either /bin/dash or /bin/bash
[18:42] <Agent_bob> or a custom shell if manually set up
[18:42] <brad__> anyone know how I can allow other boxes to redirect though ssh connections that are comming in ?
[18:42] <untiled> agent_bob: so i have to dowload tar.gz (sources) or i can use rpm?
[18:43] <Agent_bob> brad__ redirrect ?    routing table stuff ?
[18:43] <brad__> no ssh -R
[18:43] <Agent_bob> !VMware-server
[18:43] <Agent_bob> !vmware
[18:44] <brad__> from my other location I issue a ssh -R 515:printer:515, I can access it, but no no else on my lan can
[18:44] <Agent_bob> brad__ i don't know.      someone else may.
[18:45] <Cannoli> !flash
[18:45] <untiled> ubottu: ok, i'll try it, thank you
[18:46] <untiled> ah, i'ts a bot xD
[18:46] <starenka> Hi been connected to my other kubuntu mashine via ssh and accidentaly run "sudo kate file". After restarting the comp i got KDE error saying smthng about not having write permissions to ~/.ICEauthority file. i Changed the owner to user and chmoded it to 777 via safe konsole, but i cant get kde working.. it just hangs with wallpaper and does nothing. any clues?
[18:46] <ForgeAus> uh... starenka
[18:46] <ForgeAus> you need to change the user not just the perms
[18:46] <ForgeAus> or delete the file completely
[18:47] <Agent_bob> starenka own your home
[18:47] <ForgeAus> so chown
[18:47] <starenka> i did both
[18:47] <starenka> it's set to starenka and it is 777
[18:47] <starenka> it's safe to delete?
[18:47] <Agent_bob> starenka own your home.     sudo chown -R $HOME
[18:47] <ForgeAus> but I found deleting the file completely to be difficult
[18:47] <Agent_bob> and yes it's safe to delete it
[18:47] <ForgeAus> really? I had that problem all I needed to do was set it to my user in the end
[18:48] <ForgeAus> agentbob how to delete it when you have no permissions to use it?
[18:48] <starenka> delete as root?
[18:48] <ForgeAus> no way to log in
[18:48] <ForgeAus> starenka that didn't even work for me when I tried
[18:48] <ForgeAus> but good luck, it might for you
[18:49] <ForgeAus> (was like it had my disk open in readonly)
[18:49] <starenka> ok so i have to chown ~ and it will be okay
[18:49] <starenka> neat
[18:49] <Agent_bob> or    rm users/home/dir/.*auth*
[18:49] <ForgeAus> thats what it was in my case Starenka ..
[18:49] <Agent_bob> and you can log in to a console.
[18:50] <starenka> yep
[18:50] <Agent_bob> alt+ctrl+f1  login and do what needs done.    exit and alt+f7
[18:50] <starenka> i wasn't but after chowning and 777ing i can at least resart x and get to console
[18:50] <Agent_bob> using xorg to get to a console    pfft !
[18:51] <Agent_bob> xorg runs in a console.      you have the tail wagging the dog
[18:51] <Agent_bob> tty7 by default
[18:52] <starenka> yeye.. i'm a n00b, but i get to the "finish" my way :))
[18:52] <vilhelm> Agen_bob now i can find my disks but when i enter my NTFS disk it says something like the systempolicy cant allow mounting intern devices
[18:52] <Agent_bob> !ntfs | vilhelm
[18:54] <starenka> so i did 'sudo chown -R starenka:starenka /home/starenka'
[18:54] <starenka> hope it helps
[18:54] <starenka> :))
[18:54] <starenka> fok it's the same thing
[18:54] <starenka> a cursos and blank screen :(
[18:54] <starenka> *cursor
[18:54] <ForgeAus> blank screen?
[18:54] <starenka> nope
[18:54] <ForgeAus> no message about .ICEauthority?
[18:55] <starenka> no some color (blue) and no message
[18:55] <Agent_bob> "there's a pretty sizable knowledge base of writen information on the interweb,  i just always seem to be asking the wrong questions..." -- _2
[18:55] <ForgeAus> and no kde? :(
[18:55] <starenka> oo
[18:56] <starenka> now after a while something pops up
[18:56] <starenka> seems like it can't connect to dcop server
[18:56] <ForgeAus> hehe agentbob I know that dilemma
[18:56] <ForgeAus> all too well
[18:56] <ForgeAus> starenka uh I don't know anything about how to fix that one
[18:56] <starenka> darn
[18:57] <ForgeAus> I also tend to come away from reading a manpage more confused than when I started...
[18:57] <starenka> hehe so true
[18:57] <ForgeAus> (by the time I get to what I'm looking for I've usually forgotten what it is anyway!)
[18:58] <starenka> any clues?
[18:58] <Agent_bob> ForgeAus i resemble that remark
[18:59] <ForgeAus> like I always say (the Aus part of my nick is to signify Australia so pretend it isn't there for now) a t on the end of my nickname suits me way better than an ry ever could :)
[19:00] <Agent_bob> starenka  maybe    rm users/home/dir/.*auth*
[19:00] <Agent_bob> ForgeAus :)
[19:02] <starenka> Agent_bob: thanx... but removing the .ICE authority files seemed to help. well i've seen a piece of kde and compiz splash starting and then the screen turned black
[19:02] <starenka> Agent_bob: ok will try your one as well
[19:03] <Agent_bob> starenka heh.   :)
[19:04] <Agent_bob> starenka not very familear with wildcards eh ?
[19:04]  * Dark`Star sta ascoltando Corporation Pull In di Terrorizer tratta da World Downfall. (3:05)
[19:04] <starenka> Agent_bob: yes i'm but i thought it was just those 3 files so i did it "manully". nevermind... the black screen continues
[19:05] <Agent_bob> starenka what file did you edit as root ?
[19:05] <Agent_bob> maybe you messed on that file ?
[19:05] <starenka> welcome message to proftpd
[19:05] <Agent_bob> or messed up   even
[19:06] <starenka> '/home/ftp/welcome.msg'
[19:06] <Agent_bob> hmm that should not have affected the DE
[19:06] <starenka> yep
[19:07] <Agent_bob> you must have broken something else.    check your xorg logs
[19:07] <Agent_bob> maybe it was a kernel update that you forgot about
[19:07] <Agent_bob> or something along that line
[19:07] <starenka> nope... i have ...19 for ages
[19:08] <starenka> well, all i changed today was proftpd cnfig file and the welcome msg
[19:08] <Agent_bob> check   ~/.xserver-errors    /var/log/Xorg*
[19:08] <starenka> any clue on what to grep for?
[19:08] <Agent_bob> 19 ?
[19:08] <Agent_bob> yes   grep  EE
[19:09] <starenka> yep... i don' remember the numbers the last number after last hyphen is 19
[19:09] <Agent_bob> ls /boot    or  ls /lib/modules    will show the installed kernels
[19:10] <starenka> i dont have xserver-errors... does xserver-sessions suit?
[19:10] <Agent_bob> uname -r will show the running kernel
[19:10] <Agent_bob> ~/.xserver-errors
[19:10] <Agent_bob> ?
[19:10] <starenka> 2.6.24-19
[19:10] <starenka> :))
[19:10] <starenka> oo
[19:10] <Agent_bob> ~/.xserve*
[19:10] <starenka> hidden file
[19:10] <starenka> sorry
[19:11] <starenka> no i dont have this file
[19:11] <Agent_bob> ok.   well check the xorg log in var
[19:11] <Agent_bob> if you don't have that ...   "huston we have a problem!"
[19:12] <starenka> hehe
[19:12] <starenka> well
[19:14] <starenka> which one i should look in? i got Xorg.0|9|10.log
[19:14] <Agent_bob> all    0 first
[19:15] <starenka> "EE" does grep only one line and it seems like a header
[19:16] <starenka> (WW) warning, (EE) error ....
[19:17] <starenka> ohkay
[19:17] <starenka> i got something in 0.old
[19:17] <Agent_bob> grep '(EE)' /var/log/Xorg.* | grep -v '(WW)'
[19:17] <Agent_bob> that would skip the info on (??) messages
[19:17] <starenka> fglrx(0): [drm] failed to remove drm signal
[19:18] <starenka> holdon
[19:18] <Agent_bob> !drm
[19:19] <starenka> yep it seems to have problem with display driver
[19:20] <starenka> will try to reinstall the ati proprietary dirver, maybe it will fix that
[19:20] <starenka> but i dont get how i get this error
[19:21] <Agent_bob> "drm == digital restrictions management   imposed upon the masses by the greed of a few."
[19:21] <Agent_bob> starenka may i sujest.
[19:21] <starenka> hehe
[19:21] <starenka> funny
[19:21] <Agent_bob> 1. make a new account.    2. login to that account.    3. report whether that works or not.
[19:21] <roldyx> hello.. when I press ctrl-alt-f1 I obtain black screen.. why??
[19:22] <roldyx> I need use console
[19:22] <Agent_bob> this will test whether it is in fact the issue you have found or if there is something still "hosed" in your home dir.
[19:22] <HomeUbuntuUser> anyone know is the "Creative Live Cam Video IM Pro", Vendor=041e ProdID=4055, still unsupported by (KUbuntu)linux?
[19:22] <starenka> Agent_bob: ok, how i do this on konsole (</shame>)
[19:23] <Agent_bob> roldyx sounds like your vidio driver is not releasing vga=text=normal  mode
[19:23] <roldyx> Agent_bob: how do i repair it?
[19:23] <Agent_bob> starenka sudo adduser name_here
[19:23] <starenka> Agent_bob: useradd
[19:23] <starenka> shit too late :))
[19:24] <Agent_bob> starenka use the python script.  it's easier on you.     adduser
[19:24] <Agent_bob> !nv | roldyx install the proprietary driver maybe
[19:25] <Agent_bob> roldyx only time i ever had that issue was using vesa driver with ati card
[19:25] <roldyx> Agent_bob: I am using propietary driver
[19:25] <starenka> Agent_bob: yep nre user is ok
[19:25] <paolo> I want to make a fresh kubuntu install with kde4.1. Using 8.04 spin CD is enough?
[19:25] <roldyx> with nv driver work perceftly
[19:26] <starenka> *new
[19:26] <roldyx> now I am using nvidia
[19:26] <starenka> Agent_bob: any clue how to get to know whats wrong w/ the original account?
[19:27] <Agent_bob> it couldn't handle switiching to/from text mode roldyx,  if that's not the issue there.  idk.    eitherr way.  use or don't use propiretary   one of them should fix it.
[19:28] <Agent_bob> starenka i would copy out anything you have saved there and clean house.  but there are other ways.    you could  rm most of the ~/.?*    stuff.   and even   .kde  but you lose settings that way.   still it would probably clear up the issue.       you did   sudo chown $USER -R $HOME    didn't you ?
[19:29] <Agent_bob> didn't you ?
[19:29] <Agent_bob> you did, did you not ?
[19:30] <Agent_bob> say you did...
[19:30] <Agent_bob> i think we lost him...   ;/
[19:30] <starenka> Agent_bob: yep well i did 'sudo chown starenka ~'
[19:31] <starenka> it should stay for the same, isnt it?
[19:31] <Agent_bob> starenka that was as the user "starenka"  ?
[19:31] <starenka> yes
[19:31] <Agent_bob> yeah.   no.   -R
[19:31] <Agent_bob> has to have -R
[19:31] <starenka> yes i did
[19:31] <Agent_bob> ok
[19:31] <starenka> is just forget to write
[19:31] <starenka> ;)
[19:32] <Agent_bob> i like using the variables because they will always expand correctly.    "or should always"
[19:33] <Agent_bob> sudo chown $USER -R $HOME
[19:33] <starenka> i got it
[19:33] <starenka> ok well i dont store anything in ~, but i don't wanna loose all my kde setting - taht was the point :))
[19:33] <ForgeAus> starenka do an ls -al on the file
[19:33] <ForgeAus> ie ls -al .ICE*
[19:34] <ForgeAus> it will tell you there what the perms and owner is
[19:34] <starenka> i;ve deleted those
[19:34] <starenka> but before it was owned by root
[19:34] <Agent_bob> ForgeAus it's not ICEauth anymore. it's now dcop
[19:34] <starenka> and it wos readonlu to root
[19:34] <chrisinajar> hi there, so i did apt-get install libqt4-debug, then ran gdb with an application linked to qt4, and it didn't load the debug symbols...
[19:34] <starenka> then i changed it to starenka:statrenka and 777
[19:35] <chrisinajar> i asked in #qt, and they said to come here to ask how to make it work...
[19:35] <ForgeAus> interesting christinajar, I'm not sure why here is where they sent you!
[19:35] <starenka> okay thanx for help. gotta go now... will just use the other usser account and try to merge the config files somegow
[19:36] <starenka> *somehow
[19:36] <starenka> bye
[19:36] <ForgeAus> good luck starenka
[19:36] <Agent_bob> chrisinajar i'm going to venture a guess here.    start the qt app with --debug  switch applied maybe ?
[19:36] <oomph_work> which kubunut should i download? remix?
[19:36] <chrisinajar> I'm anylizing a core file
[19:36] <ForgeAus> oomph sure :) if you want kde4.1
[19:37] <oomph_work> what would you suggest?
[19:37] <Agent_bob> oomph_work kinda depends on what you want from the disk
[19:37] <ForgeAus> (I think the currend default - non -remix - is still kde3.5.9)
[19:37] <oomph_work> i want compiz
[19:37] <oomph_work> thats about it
[19:37] <mn> im on the remix. i like it
[19:38] <ForgeAus> well no point in kde4 if you want compiz
[19:38] <ForgeAus> well maybe I shaould have said it as: you don't need compiz with kde4
[19:38] <Agent_bob> oomph_work then i would sujest the normal
[19:38] <oomph_work> oh
[19:38] <ForgeAus> you can use it that way if you want... but I don't recommend doing so
[19:38] <oomph_work> which is better compiz on 3.5.9 or KDE4?
[19:39] <Agent_bob> oomph_work if you want kde4 desktop effects  then the remix   that's the whole point.
[19:39] <ForgeAus> (ie compiz --replace instead of kwin --replace)
[19:39] <Agent_bob> !compiz
[19:39] <ForgeAus> uh compiz is no better or worse on kde3.5.9 as it is on kde4
[19:39] <Agent_bob> !kde4
[19:39] <ForgeAus> its just more fitting with kde3.5.9 since it doesn't have composite effects built in to kwin like kde4.x does
[19:40] <oomph_work> yeah, i just want the cube effects
[19:40] <oomph_work> and what not
[19:40] <Agent_bob> ForgeAus and that kde4 is still lacking some things.
[19:40] <ForgeAus> well cube works in either
[19:40] <ForgeAus> but you still need to replace kwin with compiz either way
[19:40] <ForgeAus> agentbob I agree
[19:41] <ForgeAus> imho kde3.5.9 is still > than kde4.x
[19:41] <Agent_bob> so if you are shooting for compiz   i reccomend kde3
[19:41] <Fieldy> strongly agree
[19:41] <ForgeAus> not that kde4 is a bad thing, its very nice in many ways..
[19:41] <ForgeAus> yes it makes more sense to go kde3 if you want compiz
[19:41] <oomph_work> which is more stable?
[19:41] <Agent_bob> if you want effects and don't care whether they are compiz or kde4   i sujest remix
[19:41] <ForgeAus> (which means non-remix)
[19:42] <ForgeAus> 3 is definitely more stable
[19:42] <oomph_work> k
[19:43] <oomph_work> thanks for the feedback
[19:43] <Agent_bob> oomph_work and ffr    pools are not reall welcome in help channels  :)
[19:43] <ForgeAus> (its a way more mature desktop kde4 is relatively new)
[19:43] <Agent_bob> polls
[19:44] <ganymede> hello, i just installed ktorrent-kde4, now how do i start it? i tried typing in ktorrent into a shell but the command was not found, and suggests to install ktorrent instead, which i assume is the kde 3 version
[19:44] <ForgeAus> ganymede there should be a menu option to run ktorrent in the kmenu
[19:44] <ForgeAus> apt installs them into there
[19:45] <ForgeAus> (I'm not personally sure what the commandline to run it is)
[19:46] <jegelie> robotgeek: hi again
[19:46] <ganymede> ForgeAus: i'm using ubuntu desktop, but i have installed ktorrent for kde4. shouldn't i still be able to access it without having installed the kde desktop?
[19:46] <Agent_bob> there used to be cute little infonodes about polling what's best.    !start_an_editor_war  !startawar   start a desktop war.... and so on.   the bot would choose some randomly picked editor or desktop or ...  and post   "emacs is better than vim"   kind of things...      the intent is to point out that "best" is not applicable in most questions.
[19:46] <ForgeAus> ganymede your using ubuntu instead of kde?... um ask in #KDE maybe they will know, you might need more of KDE4 for it to work?... I'm not sure about kde4 under gnome
[19:46] <Agent_bob> it's a matter of choice.
[19:47] <Agent_bob> i'm out for a bit.
[19:47] <Agent_bob> ForgeAus it's all yours  :)))
[19:47] <ForgeAus> lol mine? uh who said I wanted it?
[19:47] <jegelie> anyone knows how to get GRUB2 while on a LiveCD Kubuntu?
[19:48] <ForgeAus> jegelie, um apt-get install grub2 ?
[19:48] <roldyx_> I have this problem..
[19:48] <ForgeAus> sorry wait, you need a sudo first
[19:48] <roldyx_> Aug 13 13:02:20 tubarao kernel: [97737.926546] klauncher[5985]: segfault at 00000095 eip b753cee7 esp bfceb590 error 4
[19:48] <jegelie> ForgeAus: nope didn't work
[19:48] <ForgeAus> sudo apt-get install grub2
[19:48] <jegelie> ForgeAus: nope
[19:48] <roldyx_> kde freeze
[19:49] <ForgeAus> jegelie, yeah well it doesn't make much sense to anyway
[19:49] <ForgeAus> you want to be in your non-live cd to update grub anyway right?
[19:49] <jegelie> ForgeAus: why is that?
[19:49] <ganymede> ForgeAus: okay, thanks for the advice
[19:49] <ForgeAus> sory I couldn't help you more ganymede
[19:49] <jegelie> ForgeAus: I want to make a Firewire drive bootable with Kubuntu Hardy on my intel iMac... <shrug>
[19:49] <ForgeAus> its just that that is beyond me
[19:50] <ForgeAus> and grub doesn't have that it needs grub2?
[19:50] <ForgeAus> or that you need to install a working boot manager onto it from the live cd so that it will work?
[19:51] <jegelie> ForgeAus: robotgeek put me on the trail of grub2; it can cope with EFI bootloaders et al.
[19:51] <ForgeAus> yes EFI is part of grub2
[19:51] <ForgeAus> or available anyway
[19:51] <jegelie> ForgeAus: the standard out-of-the-box grub on the Kubuntu install didn't work
[19:52] <ForgeAus> um the #Grub2 people will know how to set up grub2, but getting it from a kubuntu liveCD to your bootable drive may not be their thing??? I don't know it might be worth an ask there anyway
[19:52] <ForgeAus> jegelie yeah I understand...
[19:52] <ForgeAus> um sorry #grub
[19:52] <ForgeAus> thats the channel for Grub/Grub2 info
[19:53] <ForgeAus> just instaling it by apt-get will try to install it as your liveCD boot manager, which isn't what you want
[19:53] <jegelie> ForgeAus: but I'm also suspecting it is the init-what's-its-name thingy that can't fire up a firewire drive... no firewire drivers in it.
[19:54] <ForgeAus> init-waht'sitsname-thingy? uh I'm not sure what your talkinga bout there
[19:54] <ForgeAus> initrd?
[19:54] <jegelie> ForgeAus: that's the one.
[19:54] <ForgeAus> thats part of the kernel it needs to boot before it gets there...
[19:54] <ganymede> ForgeAus: okay, in case you're wondering, the answer is that it wasn't in my path, i had to type out  /usr/lib/kde4/bin/ktorrent (which also seems like an unlikely location)
[19:54] <ganymede> i guess some other package adds kde4's bins to the path
[19:54] <ForgeAus> ganymede fair enough...
[19:55] <ForgeAus> well normally it installs them into the kmenu you don't need to worry about the path
[19:55] <jegelie> ForgeAus: so if grub (grub1) CAN load the initrd, but that one can't go any further, I'm stuck...
[19:55] <ForgeAus> but since your not using kde then it won't do that
[19:55] <ForgeAus> (unless theres a gnome app to add a kmenu to your panel)
[19:55] <ForgeAus> (one that is dynamic... )
[19:55] <ForgeAus> I've never checked to know if such a thing exists
[19:56] <ForgeAus> (I know theres a static version of a gnome menu item for Kmenu however hehe)
[19:56] <ForgeAus> gnome-apps.org might have one if your lucky, but I can't promise because I don't know...
[19:57]  * ganymede has never ever used menu, always prefers to use alt+f2 and type in whatever i want to start, including nautilus ~
[19:57] <ForgeAus> the other option you chould have had is if you installed the rest of kde4 which you didn't want to do (to get it in the kmenu when you started with the kde desktop)
[19:57] <ForgeAus> really? well I'm not so much of a cli guru here
[19:57] <ForgeAus> I prefer gui ways where possible
[19:57] <jegelie> ForgeAus: ...(thinking out loud) but I think grub is the culprit, since I get errors about "legacy loader" and "load options 'USB'"
[19:57] <ForgeAus> btw... theres a find command if you want to find a path
[19:58] <ForgeAus> jegelie makes sense
[19:58] <ForgeAus> you still need to place grub2 somehow on the device, (you can probably just if you know what your doing use the dd command to place the mbr on the device)
[19:59] <jegelie> ForgeAus: I tried building GRUB2 from SVN repository, but somehow the gcc can't make binaries in the LiveCD
[19:59] <ForgeAus> but people in #Grub are more likely to be able to help you
[19:59] <ForgeAus> jegelie it might be because the liveCD doesn't have the headers, but again that won't help
[19:59] <ForgeAus> you don't nee to install it to the liveCD you need to install it to the device instead
[20:00] <jegelie> ForgeAus: ...but regarding building or getting an app in Kubuntu would best be asked here :)
[20:00] <ForgeAus> grub has several components, a loader which goes in the mbr (bootsectore) of the device, and the files in /boot/grub that it installs
[20:00] <jegelie> ForgeAus: yes - but in order to install it, I have to run it... And since I'm not able to build it on mac, or to boot from my Kubuntu HDD...
[20:00] <ForgeAus> jegelie normally yes... but then normally all you need to do is apt-get install it
[20:01] <ForgeAus> jegelie its a special case here
[20:01] <jegelie> ForgeAus: and there you go - I tried that, but apt-get said it wasn't there. Only another package that depends on it, but not hte thing itself...
[20:01] <ForgeAus> its not just getting and installing the app, like I said installing grub using apt-get will try to change the grub of the liveCD that your currently running, ie the CD's grub not the device you want it to go to...
[20:02] <ForgeAus> uh grub2 is in the repo's somehwere
[20:02] <ForgeAus> !grub2
[20:02] <ForgeAus> hmm..
[20:02] <ForgeAus> !info grub2
[20:02] <ForgeAus> there we go...
[20:02] <ForgeAus> so you need the universe repository enabled
[20:03] <jegelie> ForgeAus: you sense my next question?
[20:03] <jegelie> ForgeAus: how do I do that?
[20:03] <trappist> !universe
[20:04] <ForgeAus> uh you don't from where you are, you copy and install grub2 from the grub's project
[20:04] <ForgeAus> I still recommend you go to #Grub and ask there
[20:04] <ForgeAus> trappist that won't help
[20:04] <ForgeAus> it will perhaps download the grub2.deb and its dependancies...
[20:04] <ForgeAus> but its a liveCD and it makes no sense to install grub2 to a liveCD
[20:05] <jegelie> ForgeAus: no I know, but from there I can manually run grub2, and from its CLI I can do a setup to whatever device and partition I choose.
[20:06] <ForgeAus> jegelie you can try it, but I don't think it can change the grub you have (since its cdrw)
[20:06] <enaut> how can i find out what app is blocking my sound? simple konsole command will do...
[20:07] <ForgeAus> you also need a sudo apt-get update
[20:07] <ForgeAus> (after modifying your sources.list file to include the universe repo)
[20:07] <jegelie> ForgeAus: a little reading: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[20:07] <ForgeAus> the easier way to add universe is to run adept and change it there...
[20:07] <ForgeAus> I'm aware of that geglie
[20:07] <ForgeAus> but right now your using grub (legacy) and that isn't going to work
[20:08] <jegelie> ForgeAus: so next boot I will try that.
[20:08] <ForgeAus> and I'm not sure installing grub2 with apt-get will actually give you grub2
[20:08] <ForgeAus> no next boot from a LiveCD = same as previous boot from LiveCD
[20:08] <ForgeAus> since nothing on the CD changes
[20:08] <ForgeAus> (if any changes to grub happen at all during the LiveCD session they happen in ram)
[20:09] <jegelie> ForgeAus: I know :) but there I can try to get grub2 and do a setup on my HDD
[20:09] <jegelie> I'm now on my OS X
[20:09] <ForgeAus> hehe :) kewl
[20:09] <jegelie> ForgeAus: OS X gcc won't let me build grub2
[20:09] <ForgeAus> thats probalby why you needed EFI
[20:10] <jegelie> ForgeAus: yes it is - and believe me, it is a PITA to get it working.
[20:10] <ForgeAus> yes it would seem so
[20:10] <ForgeAus> I have no personal experience with it but it does seem to create a few, issues
[20:10] <jegelie> ForgeAus: I'm figuring it out for over four days now - at cost of precious time with my kids
[20:10] <ForgeAus> (not that it doesn't work, its just... got issues)
[20:11] <ForgeAus> jegelie, good luck...
[20:11] <jegelie> ForgeAus: Darn frustrating to read about people who got it working, but not being able to reproduce the steps over here.
[20:11] <mn> how can i set up an account for kopete?
[20:12] <ForgeAus> jegelie I'm sure it CAN work, its just not so easy to actually DO thats all
[20:12] <ForgeAus> and I'm fairly inexperienced at actually doing it... so I'm little help personally
[20:12] <jegelie> ForgeAus: it is all about how far are you willing to go through with it :)
[20:13] <ForgeAus> mn uh kde3 or 4?... theres an option to add accounts...
[20:13] <jegelie> ForgeAus: never mind, you've been very helpful. I have a new thing to try
[20:13] <mn> 4. i didnt think that would effect this though? should i go to the kubuntu kde4 channel?
[20:14] <jegelie> Well, there we go again; booting LiveCD. Bye!
[20:14] <ForgeAus> thanx :)... glad I could be of some kind of service then
[20:14] <ForgeAus> cya
[20:14] <rot> hi
[20:14] <ForgeAus> uh depends on if theres any chagnes in kde4's kopete I know it doesn't have IRC currently in kde4
[20:15] <rot> how the php5 is not working on my serever
[20:15] <ForgeAus> brb running it myself
[20:15] <ForgeAus> (the kde3 one)
[20:16] <ganymede> hello, i'm very new to ubuntu, i've just installed ktorrent-kde4 to discover that it is from kde 4.0.3. i was under the impression that ubuntu is a frequently updated distro with always the newest packages, so i was wondering if there is a simple way to install kde 4.1 with ubuntu's native package manager, not installing debs manually
[20:16] <ForgeAus> hehe on first run kopete comes up with a welcoming screen asking you to add accounts lol
[20:17] <ForgeAus> hey ganymede... um the pacakage manager is synaptic for ubuntu
[20:17] <ganymede> i haven't run into any issues with 4.0.3 yet, but i understand that it is quite outdated as kde is developing quickly, so i would like to upgrade now before i actually run into a missing feature or bug
[20:17] <ForgeAus> uh go to #kubuntu-kde4 (the title there has a link for you)
[20:17] <ForgeAus> afaik
[20:17] <mn> Lol apperantly it is different then
[20:17] <ganymede> ForgeAus: thanks again
[20:18] <ForgeAus> uh ganymede one thing tho
[20:18] <ForgeAus> I think its a download to the entire distribution of kubuntu with kde4.1 (remix)
[20:18] <ForgeAus> its not just kde4.1 itself
[20:18] <ForgeAus> that I could find anyhow
[20:18] <ForgeAus> anyway mn is there a settings menu?
[20:19] <ForgeAus> in there configure kopete, and click new
[20:19] <ForgeAus> thts how it works in kde3.5.x
[20:19] <ganymede> ForgeAus: it looks like i found a repo that has 4.1.0 packages, deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu hardy main, but i'm still taking a look at it
[20:20] <ForgeAus> yup that sounds good too
[20:20] <ForgeAus> (I've seen that one myself)
[20:20] <ForgeAus> but I wasn't sure if it had kde4.1 or just still kde4.0.x
[20:20] <mn> cool, thanks ForgeAus, the configure thing worked
[20:21] <ForgeAus> mn of course it did :)...
[20:21]  * ForgeAus chuckles
[20:25] <TheMaxzilla> Can someone help me for a sec? I made a launcher, and the code is:
[20:25] <TheMaxzilla> gksudo "gnome-open %u"
[20:26] <TheMaxzilla> How would this be in Kubuntu language?
[20:26] <TheMaxzilla> kdesudo "kde-open %u"   ?
[20:26] <TheMaxzilla> no, it would be kdesu, right?
[20:31] <carib909> Problem setting up Samba please see http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/37511/  "sudo smbpasswd -L -a your_username" does not work.
[20:34] <carib909> Anyone familiar with Samba?
[20:39] <carib909> Anybody know how to setup Samba?
[20:40] <ElectricKetchup> I can setup samba, but can't get it to do what I want
[20:40] <carib909> does the sudo smbpasswd -L -a your_username work for you?
[20:41] <carib909> Anybody got Samba working?
[20:45] <Carroarmato0> flaccid, yo
[20:46] <rot> I have prioblem
[20:46] <rot> ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[20:46] <Azzco> Hi, how do I add icons to programs?
[20:46] <Carroarmato0> flaccid, still no responce to the security bug report....
[20:46] <robot_jesus> how do I associate file types with a program, alternatives ?
[20:50] <rot> #msyql
[20:51] <robot_jesus> how do I associate file types with a program, alternatives ?  -- why is it so dead in here theres 324 people
[20:51] <eloquence> i'm having issues trying to open the ntfs partition of an external usb drive
[20:51] <zabbadapp> robot_jesus: right-click on a file in dolphin file manager, select "properties", click on the small button/icon in the windows (next to "Type:") ..  a new window with "Edit file type" appear.... OR: right-click on a file and select "open with ->" ... and then "other..." .. and select an application and "Remeber app assoc for this type of file"
[20:51] <Carroarmato0> flaccid, I've set the Status of the bug as *Confirmed*, maybe that'll draw some attention. I really can't believe that this, even being a security bug, hsn't had any attention untill now.
[20:51] <eloquence> most ppl just idle in here and only speak if they have a problem
[20:52] <zabbadapp> robot_jesus: (for KDE 3.5)
[20:52] <robot_jesus> zabbadapp: I dont have dolphin, can this be done from the command line ?  I'm actually using icewm
[20:55] <eloquence> anybody know why i am unable to mount my external ntfs partition? i have an internal ntfs partition that works just fine and external fat32s which load just fine
[20:56] <Azzco> eloquence: maybe it wasn't unmounted properly?
[20:56] <zabbadapp> you want to assoc a commandline program with extensions when you tab complete? like mplayer <tab> only show .avi/.mpg/and so on ?
[20:56] <eloquence> how do i fix the problem then?
[20:56] <Carroarmato0> eloquence, I assume you're using windows on that ntfs partition....?
[20:57] <Azzco> eloquence: My friend had that problem with a internal ntfs drive. We only booted up windows to shut it down again. Maybe you could try mounting the drive in a windows system and unmount it properly there?
[20:57] <eloquence> no i am not
[20:57] <eloquence> it's an external drive
[20:57] <Azzco> eloquence: Try mounting and unmounting on a windows system.
[20:57] <eloquence> i use windows on my internal ntfs but it's been months since i was on it
[20:57] <eloquence> hmm
[20:57] <eloquence> k
[20:57] <Azzco> At least it's worth a shoot right ;)
[20:58] <eloquence> you know maybe it was from when i mounted it on a windows xp virtual machine in virtualbox
[20:58] <Carroarmato0> eloquence, yeah what Azzco said: most people get this problem because windows hasn't been shutdown properly, a bootup and clean shutdown fixes this
[20:58] <Carroarmato0> eloquence, yeah that probably caused it
[20:59] <eloquence> so should i start the vm mount it and unmount it?
[20:59] <Carroarmato0> eloquence,  yes, so far I guess the only thing that can remount it cleanly is windows in your vm
[21:00] <Azzco> eloquence: I'm not sure about the virtualbox usb (I'm guessing it's a usb drive) support but in most cases you need the usb device to run properly on the host os
[21:00] <mizipzor_> is there a kde alternative to gparted?
[21:00] <eloquence> qparted
[21:00] <Azzco> qtparted, but gparted is more stable
[21:01] <mizipzor_> im installing gparted then
[21:01] <mizipzor_> thanks
[21:05] <ForgeAus> maxzilla if your still there kdesu kdesudo they're synonymous (one is a wrapper for the other)
[21:07] <BenPa85> can someone tell me how I can make a share via console?
[21:07] <BenPa85> because the graphical interface of kde4 doesn't work atm ...
[21:08] <Azzco> Make a share?
[21:08] <BenPa85> network share
[21:08] <BenPa85> sry
[21:09] <BenPa85> I want to enable a windows pc to access a folder on my kubuntu notebook
[21:09] <BenPa85> but the ui for network shares doesn't work ..
[21:09] <ForgeAus> samba share
[21:09]  * ForgeAus shrugs
[21:10] <BenPa85> k, is samba a special program, or is it installed by default?
[21:10] <yuri_> ahh prefiro rock
[21:10] <ForgeAus> no
[21:10] <ForgeAus> samba is windows' sharing protocol essentially
[21:10] <BenPa85> ah ok thanks :)
[21:10] <ForgeAus> the ui controls samba
[21:11] <ForgeAus> (so if you don't have samba-common it won't work)
[21:11] <BenPa85> so, first thing is to check if samba is installed ^^
[21:12] <ForgeAus> its mostly just a text file in /etc somewhere from memory, a pain to do manually
[21:12] <ForgeAus> aye
[21:12] <BenPa85> k samba-common is installed
[21:12] <ForgeAus> I think it might even be a dependancy of the distro these days not entirely sure
[21:12] <ForgeAus> ok...
[21:12] <BenPa85> i've found a post were it's described as bug ...
[21:13] <ForgeAus> well then I'm not sure I can help you since I don't know about how kde4 and samba relate, i havn't even used kde3's stuff for samba but I'd gather that at least works
[21:13] <BenPa85> ok, can you tell me how I can enable the share from terminal?
[21:13] <BenPa85> ah ok, thx :)
[21:13] <ForgeAus> unfortunately no
[21:13] <ForgeAus> but
[21:14] <ForgeAus> if samba has a manpage ???
[21:14] <BenPa85> ok I'll check this :)
[21:14] <BenPa85> thank you
[21:14] <ForgeAus> I know you use smb:/ in konqi :)
[21:14] <BenPa85> ..
[21:15] <BenPa85> :)
[21:15] <HighHo> !samba | BenPa85
[21:16] <BenPa85> ah ok, thank you
[21:16] <HighHo> Might help, havent checked personally :)
[21:16] <BenPa85> will use the time to read those infos :)
[21:16] <BenPa85> thank you ...
[21:17] <ForgeAus> hmmm maybe it was a samba-server package instead of samba-common?... I just thought of that!
[21:18] <ForgeAus> samba-common is probably installed so you can connect to samba shares not serve them! lol
[21:18] <HighHo> he's gone
[21:18] <ForgeAus> anyway, the sites from ubottu should tell him
[21:19] <ForgeAus> (I know HighHo
[21:19] <ForgeAus> I was speaking... rhetorically as it were...
[21:19] <HighHo> :)
[21:19] <ForgeAus> theres an element of irony when something comes to mind just after it would have been useful don't you think?
[21:22] <HighHo> sure he will be back if ensure, but i would think the samba-server package might be installed as a dep anyway (or part of a meta package)
[21:22] <HighHo> *unsure
[21:25]  * ForgeAus shrugs
[21:26] <ForgeAus> I know doing it manually with the config file (in /etc/ somewhere) is a pain
[21:33] <lucas_> hola
[21:35] <chalcedony> Guest40611: hi
[21:54] <george__> hello i just installed kubuntu 8.04 x64 with kde4 im having problems setting up my network connection
[21:55] <george__> when i try to set up my connection manually i get the error kcmshell (kdelibs): WARNING: Could not find module 'kcm_knetworkconfmodule'
[22:13] <jeb__> hi
[22:14] <jeb__> i got some problems with adept_manager
[22:14] <jeb__> (or apt)
[22:14] <jeb__> adept crashed during the install of sun-java6-plugin
[22:14] <jeb__> now I can't install it any more
[22:14] <jeb__> cause an error occours always
[22:14] <DreadKnight> jeb__: fire konsole; sudo apt-get install -f
[22:15] <jeb__> doesn't work
[22:15] <DreadKnight> hmm
[22:15] <jeb__> öh..
[22:15] <jeb__> oh
[22:15] <jeb__> I ran apt with sudo apt-get install -f sun-java6-plugin
[22:15] <jeb__> but without the package it seems to work...
[22:16] <DreadKnight> xD
[22:16] <jeb__> hej great
[22:16] <jeb__> thx alot
[22:17] <DreadKnight> :)
[22:18] <ForgeAus> does anyone know anything about freevo?
[22:22] <isra> einen wunderschönen öhm kann mir einer sgaen welche pakete ich installieren muss dasmit ich alle widgets unter kde4 bekomme hab schon bei googel nachgesehen aber da find ich nix
[22:23] <mefisto__> !de | isra
[22:23] <isra> sry
[22:24] <mefisto__> no problem
[22:34] <Nutzebahn> Hello. Could someone recommend a good alternative to C++ Builder which has a form designer?
[22:35] <Serega__> Nutzebahn: qt-designer
[22:35] <Serega__> but it is far from the Builder
[22:36] <Serega__> qt-designer + kdevelop
[22:36] <Serega__> maybe
[22:36] <Serega__> sorry, have to go
[22:47] <lintaba> hy
[23:00] <Walzmyn> What does kubuntu use for a firewall - or how do i fiddle with the firewall?
[23:04] <HighHo> !firewall | Walzmyn
[23:05] <Walzmyn> thank you HighHo
[23:05] <HighHo> Walzmyn: Your welcome :)
[23:28] <robot_jesus> how do I copy something to the clipbboard from the command line
[23:31] <phi> hi
[23:31] <ubuntu> hi
[23:38] <muuselt> Does Kubuntu use KDE4 now
[23:38] <muuselt> I got mine awhile ago