[01:43] <kahrytan> Anyone know how to force firefox to detect a plugin?
[02:24] <emmy> Is there any special place to go, or special procedure for reporting bugs on Kubuntu Intrepid
[02:24] <emmy> ?
[02:24] <anakron> mm
[02:24] <anakron> Launchpad
[02:24] <emmy> same as all the other bugs?
[02:25] <anakron> yes
[02:25] <anakron> Is the platform for bugs
[02:30] <andres> :P
[02:30] <anakron> XD
[02:30] <anakron> andate oh!
[02:30] <anakron> xD
[02:31] <andres> no
[02:31] <andres> :D
[02:31] <andres> anakron, kien era la mina que me contaste que le faltaba un novio ?
[02:32] <emmy> portuguese?
[02:33] <anakron> Spanish
[02:33] <emmy> funny thing is, i can read that but it's either portugues, italian, or poorly spelled spanish.
[02:33] <emmy> ahh.
[02:33] <andres> :D
[02:33] <emmy> quien and nina
[02:33] <anakron> jaja
[02:33] <andres> :P
[02:34] <emmy> :)
[02:34] <andres> :D
[02:36] <anakron> :O Ubuntu-Cl arrives
[02:39] <andres> ubuntu-cl sucks
[02:39] <andres> :P
[02:40] <anakron> :O
[02:40] <anakron> XD
[02:40] <anakron> too much work
[02:40] <andres> cl people is fu* noobs
[02:40] <andres> xD
[02:40] <andres> JJAOJAOA
[02:40] <andres> :P
[02:42] <PaGonDel> now you come to "webiar" in english? :P
[02:43] <anakron> xD
[02:43] <anakron> jajajjajjaa
[02:43] <andres> PaGonDel  fucking around
[02:43] <andres> algo asi
[02:44] <PaGonDel> xD... i just give the chilean touch to the sentence :P
[02:44] <andres> PaGonDel slang je va
[02:44] <andres> :D
[02:45] <anakron> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/257746 >> Must be in wishlist. Is similar to  hwtest package
[02:56] <mlester> hello is anyone active in here
[02:57] <anakron> EYS
[02:57] <anakron> Yes
[02:58] <mlester> do u know anyone who know debian/ubuntu inside and out
[02:58] <mlester> especially the networking side
[02:58] <mlester> because I am having a problem that no one can solve
[02:58] <mlester> I have asked around at least 10 different places
[02:59] <anakron> ...
[02:59] <anakron> sorry, i dont
[02:59] <mlester> and scoured the net for 2wks searching for a solution
[03:00] <mlester> u would think that solving an apt-get update problem would be easy
[03:01] <mlester> just 2 simple combinations of letters and symbols
[03:01] <Hobbsee> your problem is very broad.  try narrowing it.
[03:02] <mlester> Method http has died unexpectedly!
[03:03] <mlester> its a vm of hardy server
[03:06] <Hobbsee> google suggests links such as http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=171957
[03:06] <Hobbsee> did you try that?
[03:08] <mlester> yeah gateway is set up correctly
[03:08] <mlester> and the other thing on there didn't do anything
[03:11] <Hobbsee> hmm
[03:12] <mlester> I read some where that it might be a proxy interfering
[03:12] <mlester> but I dont think I have any prozy software installed
[03:13] <mlester> it does have openvpn starting up on boot but I stopped that
[03:14]  * Hobbsee does not know.
[03:15] <mlester> http://paste.ubuntu.com/37307/ that is a list of all processes running
[03:21] <hggdh> anakron, bug 257746 is *NOT* wishlist
[03:21] <hggdh> anakron, please read  NOW
[03:22] <anakron> why not
[03:22] <hggdh> anakron, this is the third time I bring this to you attention
[03:24] <andres> :D
[03:24] <hggdh> for all: please read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToTriage#Special%20types%20of%20bugs for special types of bugs
[03:26] <Hobbsee> well, it is wishlist, but it's ceratinly not brainstorm material.
[03:26] <hggdh> Hobbsee, this is the point
[03:27]  * hggdh really wishes for a common bug triaging process
[03:27] <Hobbsee> hggdh: it might be helpful to explictly add to that page that new package requests fall into the special types of bugs - i don't see them there now
[03:27]  * Hobbsee doesn't have wiki passwords and such on her.
[03:28] <hggdh> Hobbsee, I thought anyone of us could edit it -- I will add it in, anyways
[03:29] <hggdh> darn, it has been blocked!
[03:29] <Hobbsee> it has?  ouch
[03:29]  * hggdh blushes... logging in to the wiki might help :-(
[03:29] <Hobbsee> haha :)
[03:30] <Hobbsee> have they reset the logins again?  darn.
[03:30] <hggdh> oh, we are now openId
[03:30] <james_w> Hobbsee: I don't know if you've seen but the wiki is lp openid now.
[03:30] <james_w> Hobbsee: doesn't mean you'll have the passwords now, but it might be a surprise next time you go to log in
[03:30] <hggdh> yeah, just noticed it... slow as molasses, also
[03:30] <Hobbsee> james_w: ahhh.  yes, i heard about that - that it wasn't working.
[03:31] <Hobbsee> heh
[03:31] <james_w> worked for me at least
[03:31] <jjesse> james_w: do you have to use your lp open id or just your normal wiki login?
[03:31] <hggdh> hah! Internal Server error
[03:31] <jjesse> awesome i didn't do it
[03:31] <Hobbsee> james_w: well, technically i *do* have the passwords, on my usb stick.  however, whenever i plug in the stick to a machine in this lab, it instantly shuts down...
[03:31] <jjesse> Apache/2.2.8 (Ubuntu) mod_fastcgi/2.4.6 mod_python/3.3.1 Python/2.5.2 mod_ssl/2.2.8 OpenSSL/0.9.8g Server at wiki.ubuntu.com Port 80
[03:31] <Hobbsee> hggdh: darn, so it's still broken.
[03:32] <hggdh> yes...
[03:32] <james_w> jjesse: the former, if you click login there's a redirect logic to launchpad to authorise, and then back to the wiki, no chance for the old credentials as far as I know
[03:32] <hggdh> they say trying many times in sequence might help ;-)
[03:32] <james_w> Hobbsee: ha, that's brilliant.
[03:32]  * Hobbsee whines in #launchpad
[03:32] <Hobbsee> james_w: very.  it's a problem with XP SP3, and these motherboards.
[03:33] <hggdh> Hobbsee, what? YOU run XP, or WE run XP?? ;-)
[03:33] <jjesse> i bet her shcool runs xp service pack 3
[03:34] <Hobbsee> hggdh: this university runs XP...
[03:34] <hggdh> OK, logged in. I will (finally) edit it now
[03:34] <Hobbsee> but at least they don't plan to change to vista.
[03:39] <hggdh> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToTriage#Special%20types%20of%20bugs has been edited, now 'needs-packaging' is in
[03:39]  * mlester wants to cry cause is ubuntu wont apt-get update
[03:39] <hggdh> Hobbsee, lucky you... Vista has some nice eye candies, but thats about it
[03:40] <Hobbsee> heh.  someone else just discovered the USB rebooting computer bug.
[03:40] <nhandler> hggdh: Shouldn't the wiki page say "[needs-packaging] <package>"?
[03:40] <hggdh> anakron, you have my apologies -- I warned you on something that was not yet documented
[03:41] <hggdh> damm!
[03:41] <hggdh> will correct it
[03:41] <nhandler> :)
[03:41] <anakron> XD
[03:41] <anakron> Ok
[03:41] <anakron> I was reading that before
[03:42] <anakron> but i never saw something like that
[03:42] <Hobbsee> anakron: either way, little wishlists don't require brainstorm stuff.
[03:42] <anakron> ok
[03:42] <hggdh> anakron, indeed. My fault
[03:43] <hggdh> page has been corrected Hobbsee. Please use you hawk eyes, and see if I messed something else, if you do not mind
[03:46] <Hobbsee> hggdh: looks good to me :)
[03:47] <hggdh> thanks, the way I am tonight, all help is necessary...
[03:48] <hggdh> well. After *WRONGLY* complaining with anakron, and after *WRONGKLY* editing a miserable simple dumb change to a wiki page, I guess I should call it a day
[03:49] <anakron> why call it a day?
[03:49] <hggdh> perhaps call it a night?
[03:49] <anakron> Xd
[03:49] <anakron> Here yes
[03:49] <anakron> At chile
[03:49] <anakron> :-)
[03:49] <hggdh> :-)
[03:51] <andres> Sheep fuckers
[03:51] <andres> xD
[03:51] <andres> ups sorry
[03:51] <hggdh> anyway, I am going to bed. Yall -- no, make it 'all yall' have a good night/morning/evening.
[03:54] <hggdh> sigh... one parting blow ;-)
[04:37]  * andres is away: Go to VLT Telescope
[04:40] <Hobbsee> !away | andres
[04:40] <andres> jOAJOA
[04:40] <andres> sorry
[04:40] <andres> xD
[04:40] <Hobbsee> :)
[04:44] <Hew> If firefox is just closing without triggering apport, what can I do to catch the problem? backtrace/valgrind?
[04:55] <mrooney> Hew: like, just a segfault?
[04:55] <Hew> mrooney: I'm not sure what it is (I suppose I should run it in a terminal and look for output). I'll just be browsing firefox like normal, and I may click a link or something and it closes.
[04:56] <Hew> mrooney: when I reopen, it has the recovery dialog
[04:56] <Hew> mrooney: normally apport appears on this sort of thing, but this has been going on the whole time I've been on Intrepid, and I'm not sure how to look into it further
[05:35] <dholbach> good morning
[05:36] <Hew> good afternoon :P
[05:37] <dholbach> hi Hew
[05:38] <Hew> hey Daniel
[05:43] <techno_freak> good morning
[05:43] <dholbach> hiya techno_freak
[05:43] <techno_freak> heya dholbach
[06:26] <tuxmaniac> morning everybody
[06:35] <thekorn>  /join #ubuntu-de-offtopic
[06:35] <thekorn> uhh
[09:20] <techno_freak> if a bug is said to occur only in feisty and gutsy and not in hardy, what should be the response?
[09:21] <qense> Isn't gutsy still supported?
[09:21] <persia> Supported distributions include dapper, feisty, gutsy, and hardy.
[09:23] <qense> Is HAL restarted when you restart X?
[09:32] <Hew> uh oh, I can't open any programs all of a sudden. This is the second time this has happened on Intrepid. Does anyone know if there is already a bug report on this, how I can fix it, or any testing I can do since I'm currently in this broken state?
[09:36] <Hew> hmm strange, it's about 50/50 broken apps. Terminal doesn't work, but g-s-m does :S
[09:38] <persia> Quite possibly the result of updating some library.  Try logging out and logging in again.
[09:39] <Hew> persia: aha, gdm is using 100% cpu
[09:39] <Hew> and I haven't updated anything in a while (not in the last 5h)
[09:40] <Hew> yea logging out/in will likely fix it. I was wondering if there was any testing I could do while this bug was still present, but luckily g-s-m worked so I've narrowed down the issue :-)
[11:21] <dholbach> bdrung: does just  bzr break-lock  work?
[11:24] <bdrung> dholbach: no
[11:25] <bdrung> dholbach: bzr break-lock runs without output. but bzr push shows the same error
[11:26] <dholbach> bdrung: can you pastebin the output please?
[11:28] <bdrung> dholbach: http://pastebin.com/d3e7d8adf
[11:29] <dholbach> james_w: do you know what to do there? ^
[11:29] <dholbach> it'd be great if we could have 5-a-day work around that somehow
[11:31] <Flannel> dholbach: Hey, at GBJ one of my members suggested something for the 5-a-day applet, but we couldn't figure out where to wishlist it, so I'll just mention it here: have the menu icon count down as you do them.
[11:32] <dholbach> Flannel: https://bugs.launchpad.net/five-a-day
[11:32] <dholbach> also there's https://bugs.launchpad.net/five-a-day/+bug/200432
[11:32] <dholbach> so the idea was brought up already :)
[11:32] <Flannel> dholbach: did that exist last weekend? ;)
[11:32] <dholbach> Flannel: it exists for half a year now :)
[11:33] <Flannel> sometimes the ability of launchpad to hide stuff from people amazes me.
[11:33] <dholbach> it might be just a five-a-day vs 5-a-day thing
[11:35] <Flannel> Yeah, but it didn't show up in google either.
[11:35] <Flannel> Of course, it was at the end of the day, so it could very well be that we were just being obtuse
[11:36] <dholbach> no problem
[12:15] <bdrung> dholbach: any solution for the deadlock?
[12:16] <dholbach> I just asked james_w, because I assumed he might know something
[12:18] <dholbach> lifeless: do you have an idea what bdrung can do about http://pastebin.com/d3e7d8adf ?
[12:19] <dholbach> bzr breaklock  doesn't seem to help
[12:21] <james_w> hey. does "bzr break-lock bzr+ssh://bdrung@bazaar.launchpad.net/~bdrung/5-a-day-data/main/" work
[12:21] <james_w> ?
[12:21] <james_w> or is that what you tried?
[12:21] <james_w> the message is wrong for launchpad
[12:25] <bdrung> james_w: the command you give me works
[12:26] <james_w> bdrung: cool, there's a bug open on launchpad to not be so cryptic
[13:22]  * andres is back (gone 08:45:15)
[13:30] <dholbach> james_w: do you think it'd make sense to catch that error 768 (or something like that) and call  bzr break-lock <...>  in that case?
[13:30] <james_w> not really
[13:30] <james_w> you don't want to break a lock if it's being used
[13:31] <james_w> you usually see them after crashes, but they are there for a reason
[13:31] <dholbach> *nod*
[13:31] <dholbach> so the only thing we could do is make the error message useful
[13:31] <dholbach> particularly for the applet
[13:32] <bdrung> and fix the bug with the wrong location
[13:32] <dholbach> bdrung: that message comes from bzr, I think
[13:33] <bdrung> james_w said that this bug is known
[13:33] <dholbach> james_w: or does  "<james_w> bdrung: cool, there's a bug open on launchpad to not be so cryptic"  mean, that it's an LP bug?
[13:34] <bdrung> james_w: do you have the bug id?
[13:34] <james_w> yeah, it's an LP bug
[13:38] <james_w> I think it might be http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=2&url=https%3A%2F%2Fbugs.launchpad.net%2Flaunchpad-bazaar%2F%2Bbug%2F141157&ei=DyekSP6XKJLIQfm_oIwB&usg=AFQjCNEWV51WXq-Uvxmltssc6Ib6LbZ7Tw&sig2=X7KexxXXfMnqw3821Bd5lA
[13:38] <james_w> oops
[13:38] <james_w> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-bazaar/+bug/141157
[13:38] <james_w> but it doesn't look like the one I remember
[13:48] <Ampelbein> Hi! I think Bug #241879 should be set to wishlist-importance. Could someone with according rights do this, please?
[14:16] <mvo> when is the next ubuntu-qa meeting ?
[14:16] <pedro_> mvo: next Wednesday
[14:17] <pedro_> at 1700 UTC IIRC
[14:17] <mvo> pedro_: I would like to add a meeting agenda item then, what is the best way of doing that, does ubuntu-qa has its own mailinglist?
[14:17] <mvo> that is not a ideal time for me :( maybe I need to discuss it via mail
[14:17] <pedro_> mvo: feel free to add it to -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Meetings
[14:18] <pedro_> mvo: ah yes, the mailing list is "ubuntu-qa"
[14:18] <mvo> excellent, thanks pedro_
[14:18] <pedro_> mvo: you're welcome
[14:28] <seb128> mvo: list is fine for those discussion, but maybe an ubuntu-devel topic?
[14:30] <mvo> seb128: I will become the record spammer^Wposter on that list this month
[14:31] <tuxmaniac> bug 234510 is related to a package which has been deleted in Intrepid. Should I make the bug Invalid?
[14:31] <seb128> mvo: ;-)
[14:50] <bddebian> Boo
[14:51] <tuxmaniac> boo
[14:53] <techno_freak> baa
[14:59] <tuxmaniac> can someone please mark bug 257165 as High importance. I think it is since it makes firefox crash.
[15:12] <Initial_M> zzup guys
[16:16] <lilbudda> what bugs are we focusing on today? I would like to test
[16:17] <tuxmaniac> lilbudda: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20080814
[17:46] <chrisccoulson> bdmurray - this bug was originally opened against casper, but you assigned it to the kernel in December - https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/107516
[17:46] <chrisccoulson> should the casper task be closed on this one?
[17:47] <bdmurray> chrisccoulson: yes, as it is really kernel related and not casper
[17:48] <chrisccoulson> thanks. i'll mark the casper task as invalid
[17:52] <chrisccoulson> i'm not familiar with the scope of casper. for example, bug 109957 is filed against casper but requests the addition of LVM support on the live CD. I know this should be set to wishlist, but I'm not sure if casper is the correct package
[17:54] <bdmurray> chrisccoulson: casper seems appropriate in this case.  I actually think there is a spec about this
[17:55] <chrisccoulson> thanks. i'll try and have a look for that in a moment unless someone beats me to it.
[17:57] <chrisccoulson> https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/live-lvm-support
[17:57] <chrisccoulson> thats the one!
[17:57] <bdmurray> hmm, I'm not certain that's the one I was thinking of
[17:57] <chrisccoulson> ah, ok
[17:58] <chrisccoulson> there's another: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/native-lvm-support
[17:58] <chrisccoulson> i think the blueprints might need cleaning up at some point
[17:58] <mib_y91rfa> Tell me if this is *a* bug: when I view the tooltip for the gnome power manager applet, it says: "Laptop battery charging (56%)". But when I click on the applet, then go to my "laptop battery" at the top of the menu, it clearly says: "Charge time: 8 minutes". What is up with this inconsistency?
[18:00] <mib_y91rfa> The tooltip also says that the battery will take 9 hours and 25 minutes until charged.
[18:00] <mib_y91rfa> So I'm confused here.
[18:02] <chrisccoulson> bdmurray - the two url's i listed are the only ones i can find. there is a more complete blueprint for dmraid support out of the box. I'm not sure if that is the one you were thinking of.
[18:03] <bdmurray> chrisccoulson: yeah, I'm not certain - I'll look around some more
[18:03] <chrisccoulson> i found some discussion in the ubuntu-devel-discuss archives from january regarding LVM support on the live CD - https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-discuss/2008-January/002986.html
[18:04] <bdmurray> chrisccoulson: that's the person I was thinking of
[18:08] <chrisccoulson> it also seems there's another bug report requesting LVM support, but it doesn't have a package (bug 153719)
[18:11] <schakrava> hi. is it possible to convert a bug:235063 into a sync request or should i file a new bug per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SyncRequestProcess
[18:19] <james_w> bug 235063
[18:19] <schakrava> requestsync command fails
[18:19] <james_w> in what way?
[18:20] <schakrava> i am sure to be using it wrong
[18:20] <schakrava> requestsync -s 2vcard 0.5-3
[18:20] <schakrava> 2vcard doesn't appear to exist in 0.5-3, specify -n for a package not in Ubuntu.
[18:20] <james_w> aha, you want "intrepid" not "0.5-3"
[18:21] <james_w> however, you can covert the existing bug report
[18:21] <schakrava> how do i do that?
[18:21] <james_w> retitle the bug, and change the description as specified in the wiki page
[18:22] <james_w> the easiest thing is probably to file a new bug with requestsync, and mark the current one duplicate
[18:26] <schakrava> thanks james_w. but requestsync's exited with socket timeout error
[18:27] <james_w> ah, I think Debian's madison is down, which prevents requestsync from working
[18:27] <schakrava> oh.
[18:27] <james_w> re-using the existing bug is probably best then
[18:27] <schakrava> i will do it the harder way then. thanks
[18:35] <bdmurray> Anybody know what OpenGEU is?
[18:35] <chrisccoulson> it's an ubuntu derivate i think
[18:36] <chrisccoulson> formally Geubuntu
[18:36] <chrisccoulson> http://opengeu.intilinux.com/Home.html
[18:37] <bdmurray> hmm, that looks neat
[18:38] <chrisccoulson> yeah, it looks pretty good. i might try it out later
[18:43] <ogra> sad that people build whole distros with early bea software though ... E17 is not released
[18:43] <ogra> *beta
[18:44] <ogra> (and probably never will)
[18:46] <chrisccoulson> is anyone else finding the wiki quite slow at the minute?
[18:46] <ogra> known today ... its being worked on
[18:46] <chrisccoulson> ah, thanks
[18:47] <chrisccoulson> does the same apply to launchpad too? I had lots of difficulties with launchpad yesterday, but it's not so bad today
[19:35] <chrisccoulson> bdmurray - i've confirmed bug 99008 that you asked for more information on. i don't think it needs any extra info, so you (or another member of bugcontrol) can probably now set this one to triaged
[19:37] <bdmurray> chrisccoulson: could you put the iso version you tested with in the description?
[19:38] <chrisccoulson> it's not the latest intrepid iso actually. it's A2 I think. i can download the latest now and try with that if you like?
[19:39] <bdmurray> If possible that would be fantastic
[19:39] <chrisccoulson> i'll do that now
[20:47] <chrisccoulson> bdmurray - I have confirmed bug 99008 now with the latest intrepid daily ISO
[20:58] <bdmurray> chrisccoulson: okay, I've triaged it thanks for testing
[21:02] <joaopinto> I am trying to gdb gnome-terminal which is crashing, the app is exiting and gt is launched on the background, what am I missing ?
[21:08] <bdmurray> joaopinto: which release are you using? and what generates the crash?
[21:08] <joaopinto> intrepid, selecting a specific text section
[21:08] <bdmurray> joaopinto: that fix should be available real soon
[21:08] <joaopinto> but I am now able to gdb it attaching a running terminal, and I am not being to reproduce the crash now
[21:09] <joaopinto> oh, I got some updates :P
[21:09] <joaopinto> did it got fixed ?
[21:09] <bdmurray> yes, it was a bug in vte I believe
[21:09] <bdmurray> so look for that update & changelog
[21:09] <joaopinto> well it's not crashing any longer, I did noticed the vte upgrade
[21:09] <pedro_> joaopinto: yes that's fixed with libvte9 0.17.2-0ubuntu1
[21:09] <joaopinto> tks
[21:10] <joaopinto> Can someone try to reproduce bug 254177 ?
[21:11] <joaopinto> I no longer have a clean install, and did play with some of the schroot options. I want to be sure the bug is not related to my changes
[22:31] <lifeless> bdrung_: do bzr break-lock bzr+ssh://bdrung@bazaar.launchpad.net/~bdrung/5-a-day-data/main/
[22:32] <lifeless> the url lp's server is telling you is bogus
[22:32] <jpds> lifeless: He did, james_w suggested it hours ago. :)
[22:35] <mrooney> emma, Old_Soldier: around?
[22:35] <emma> Yes sir, what can I do for you?
[22:36] <mrooney> I was just wondering if you tried your @ubuntu email forward yet and if it was working
[22:36] <bdrung_> lifeless: like jpds said
[22:36] <emma> what is @ubuntu email forward?
[22:37] <chrisccoulson> bug 215245
[22:37] <jpds> emma: Ubuntu members have @ubuntu.com mail address, which are simply forwards to their primary email address on Launchpad.
[22:38] <emma> mrooney: I am not an ubuntu member :)
[22:38] <chrisccoulson> i need one of the bug reporters to install the yelp debugging symbols, but there isn't a version of yelp-dbgsym that matches the current version of yelp in hardy-security. any idea who is responsible for this?
[22:38] <hggdh> chrisccoulson, this is/should be done automatically. pitti set this up
[22:38] <hggdh> it may take a while, though
[22:39] <lifeless> bdrung_: oh good
[22:39] <hggdh> alternatively, they can use a .dbg, if one is available
[22:39] <lifeless> I only saw dholbach's question
[22:39] <mrooney> emma: oh sorry, I thought you were emmajane :)
[22:39] <mrooney> my mistake!
[22:39] <emma> ahha. No I am very different. :)
[22:39] <mrooney> carry on :]
[22:40] <chrisccoulson> it's been like this for quite some time now. i keep coming across packages that dont have a new enough -dbgsym package, but i've been sort-of ignoring them as the backtraces i've seen havent needed them. i've got a list of 4 packages in hardy-security at the minute which don't have a -dbgsym package
[22:40] <chrisccoulson> unfortunately yelp doesnt have a -dbg package:(
[22:41] <chrisccoulson> the missing packages always seem to be the ones in hardy-security too, which is strange. all the ones in hardy-updates have a -dbgsym package
[22:42] <Ampelbein> Could someone please have a look at bug #163236? The ipw3945-driver is deprecated and all development has gone to the iwlwifi-project. So I think this bug can be set to "Won't fix"? Can somebody with the correct rights check that out, please?
[22:43] <hggdh> chrisccoulson, probably the best is to ping pitti tomorrow, or try with bdmurray now
[22:44] <bdmurray> I'd say e-mail pitti ;)
[22:44] <chrisccoulson> i'll do that. thanks!
[22:44] <hggdh> there you go, chrisccoulson :-)
[23:03] <chrisccoulson> the list of people 5-a-day'ing seems to have grown quite significantly in the last week or so
[23:04] <pwnguin> since maybe, august 8th?
[23:04] <pwnguin> (or whenever the bugjam was)
[23:04] <chrisccoulson> ah!
[23:04] <pwnguin> seriously?
[23:05] <pwnguin> you pay attention to the number of 5-a-day, but that didnt occur to you? :-)
[23:05] <chrisccoulson> it didn't! i'd forgotten about that;)
[23:45] <tormod> bdmurray: I see you're attacking ati bugs - great ! :)
[23:52] <Ampelbein> Could someone please have a look at bug #163236? The ipw3945-driver is deprecated and all development has gone to the iwlwifi-project. So I think this bug can be set to "Won't fix"? Can somebody with the correct rights check that out, please?
[23:57] <bdmurray> tormod: yep, bryce and I talked about it so off I go
[23:58] <hggdh> Ampelbein, Ubuntu 8.04 Hardy is a LTS
[23:58] <hggdh> (Long term Support)
[23:58] <hggdh> so I would expect bugs in it to be fixed
[23:59] <bdmurray> 2.6.22 is gutsy
[23:59] <hggdh> one of the last comments is about hardy