| joaopinto | Hello, someone related to Canonical alive :P ? | 16:50 |
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| shahriar86 | hi guys can anyone give me articles on why we need open source | 18:19 |
| shahriar86 | we will use it in the schools to atract students | 18:19 |
| shahriar86 | hello?? | 18:21 |
| * svaksha points to fsf.org | 18:21 | |
| shahriar86 | ok thanks | 18:21 |
| shahriar86 | there is a problem... | 18:21 |
| svaksha | shahriar86: some good articles there, a bit high on philosophy though | 18:21 |
| shahriar86 | why Richard Stallman differentiate Free software and open source software | 18:22 |
| shahriar86 | svaksha: actually I am collecting metarials so I can write one myself | 18:22 |
| shahriar86 | *for the kids | 18:22 |
| svaksha | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libre#Libre | 18:22 |
| shahriar86 | yes I agree. but again why then he is actually against using open source as a term | 18:24 |
| shahriar86 | why he prefers open source | 18:24 |
| svaksha | http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?FreeAsInBeer | 18:24 |
| shahriar86 | I mean open source is much more meaningful than Free.. (by free many dont get the Free as in Freedom) | 18:24 |
| * svaksha asks shahriar86 to _read_ links | 18:25 | |
| shahriar86 | yes I am checking svaksha | 18:25 |
| shahriar86 | perhaps I have not made myself clear | 18:26 |
| shahriar86 | what I am asking is why still Richard Stallman insists on using Free Software when it creates ambiguity, Open source is much more meaningful and easily explained | 18:27 |
| shahriar86 | many dont get "Free as in Freedom not in Free Beer" | 18:28 |
| shahriar86 | I have seen many people failing to understand the term Free (as in price) and the philosophy of Free (as in freedom) even though they are very vocal in promoting FOSS | 18:29 |
| svaksha | shahriar86: use 'libre' word - no ambiguity | 18:30 |
| shahriar86 | ok... then :) | 18:30 |
| shahriar86 | that was just a personal question, | 18:30 |
| shahriar86 | any way we go our goal is same :) | 18:30 |
| svaksha | shahriar86: :) | 18:30 |
| * svaksha uses libre always | 18:31 | |
| shahriar86 | it does not matter what we call it as long as it means Freedom in Use, distribution and modification | 18:31 |
| shahriar86 | ok svaksha :) | 18:31 |
| svaksha | shahriar86: dont forget contribution | 18:31 |
| shahriar86 | ohh yes contribution :) | 18:32 |
| * shahriar86 is searching Bengali dictonary for the word 'libre' | 18:32 | |
| svaksha | mukt ? | 18:33 |
| svaksha | mukti | 18:33 |
| shahriar86 | mukto | 18:33 |
| shahriar86 | yes | 18:33 |
| shahriar86 | :) | 18:33 |
| shahriar86 | Unmukto is the correct one | 18:33 |
| shahriar86 | though less uses it | 18:33 |
| shahriar86 | svaksha: are you familiar with bengali? | 18:34 |
| shahriar86 | can you help with my article?... actually I am stuck | 18:34 |
| shahriar86 | that is why I am searching around | 18:34 |
| svaksha | no bangla, try #linux-india , may find some translators there | 18:35 |
| shahriar86 | :) | 18:35 |
| shahriar86 | hmm | 18:35 |
| svaksha | or #mukt.in | 18:35 |
| svaksha | on freenode | 18:35 |
| shahriar86 | ok btw | 18:35 |
| shahriar86 | #bangladesh is also Bengali speaking | 18:35 |
| Feravolo | hello | 20:07 |
| shahriar86 | hi | 20:08 |
| Feravolo | are you still looking for information about free software ? | 20:08 |
| shahriar86 | yes kinda | 20:09 |
| Feravolo | Linux vs. Microsoft ? | 20:10 |
| shahriar86 | Feravolo: sorry not about linux vs. microsoft really | 20:11 |
| Feravolo | what then ? | 20:11 |
| shahriar86 | because I really dont think there is any reall comparison | 20:11 |
| shahriar86 | I am trying to write up a short article where I am describing 5-10th grade students what open source is about | 20:12 |
| shahriar86 | these students wont understand much about software coding | 20:12 |
| shahriar86 | and such | 20:12 |
| shahriar86 | so need something simpler to explain | 20:12 |
| Feravolo | have you looked at the open source foundation web site | 20:13 |
| shahriar86 | humm those talks about the philosophy. | 20:13 |
| shahriar86 | I understand the philosophy as a whole, but not sure about whether students will understand them | 20:14 |
| shahriar86 | and I am actually not interested much into just translating any documents | 20:14 |
| shahriar86 | I am trying to write in Bengali | 20:14 |
| Feravolo | Free software is about the free exchange of ideas in the computer science community. | 20:15 |
| shahriar86 | humm yes. | 20:15 |
| shahriar86 | I guess that is why I am making it so complicated | 20:15 |
| shahriar86 | but I dont want to focus just on the software side | 20:16 |
| shahriar86 | I want to discuse about the open source as a whole | 20:16 |
| Feravolo | Which means that the quality of the product is not influenced by business politics or making some deadline or the need to make money | 20:16 |
| shahriar86 | like open standard, etc | 20:16 |
| Feravolo | It doesn't ,matter what you call it open source or free software, which ever works better for you | 20:17 |
| shahriar86 | humm no no you dont get it | 20:18 |
| Feravolo | Here in the US the word open is used by American Express and IBM as trademarks which also makes it confusing in the business world | 20:18 |
| shahriar86 | I am not just focusing on "SOFTWARE" | 20:18 |
| shahriar86 | the philosophy as a whole | 20:18 |
| shahriar86 | like open standerd in production | 20:18 |
| Feravolo | oh, i though you didn't like the philosophy ? | 20:19 |
| shahriar86 | no no why would not I like the philosophy? | 20:19 |
| Feravolo | i know I have no use for it , i am just a programmer | 20:19 |
| shahriar86 | any way you call it its the same | 20:19 |
| Feravolo | yes | 20:19 |
| shahriar86 | any way I think I myself is quite confused now :P | 20:20 |
| Feravolo | That isn't always a bad thing, when trying to understand something :-) | 20:20 |
| shahriar86 | the problem is I quite understand what it is, but its hard to explain to other | 20:21 |
| Feravolo | got to go, good luck | 20:21 |
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