[16:50] Hello, someone related to Canonical alive :P ? [18:19] hi guys can anyone give me articles on why we need open source [18:19] we will use it in the schools to atract students [18:21] hello?? [18:21] * svaksha points to fsf.org [18:21] ok thanks [18:21] there is a problem... [18:21] shahriar86: some good articles there, a bit high on philosophy though [18:22] why Richard Stallman differentiate Free software and open source software [18:22] svaksha: actually I am collecting metarials so I can write one myself [18:22] *for the kids [18:22] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libre#Libre [18:24] yes I agree. but again why then he is actually against using open source as a term [18:24] why he prefers open source [18:24] http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?FreeAsInBeer [18:24] I mean open source is much more meaningful than Free.. (by free many dont get the Free as in Freedom) [18:25] * svaksha asks shahriar86 to _read_ links [18:25] yes I am checking svaksha [18:26] perhaps I have not made myself clear [18:27] what I am asking is why still Richard Stallman insists on using Free Software when it creates ambiguity, Open source is much more meaningful and easily explained [18:28] many dont get "Free as in Freedom not in Free Beer" [18:29] I have seen many people failing to understand the term Free (as in price) and the philosophy of Free (as in freedom) even though they are very vocal in promoting FOSS [18:30] shahriar86: use 'libre' word - no ambiguity [18:30] ok... then :) [18:30] that was just a personal question, [18:30] any way we go our goal is same :) [18:30] shahriar86: :) [18:31] * svaksha uses libre always [18:31] it does not matter what we call it as long as it means Freedom in Use, distribution and modification [18:31] ok svaksha :) [18:31] shahriar86: dont forget contribution [18:32] ohh yes contribution :) [18:32] * shahriar86 is searching Bengali dictonary for the word 'libre' [18:33] mukt ? [18:33] mukti [18:33] mukto [18:33] yes [18:33] :) [18:33] Unmukto is the correct one [18:33] though less uses it [18:34] svaksha: are you familiar with bengali? [18:34] can you help with my article?... actually I am stuck [18:34] that is why I am searching around [18:35] no bangla, try #linux-india , may find some translators there [18:35] :) [18:35] hmm [18:35] or #mukt.in [18:35] on freenode [18:35] ok btw [18:35] #bangladesh is also Bengali speaking [20:07] hello [20:08] hi [20:08] are you still looking for information about free software ? [20:09] yes kinda [20:10] Linux vs. Microsoft ? [20:11] Feravolo: sorry not about linux vs. microsoft really [20:11] what then ? [20:11] because I really dont think there is any reall comparison [20:12] I am trying to write up a short article where I am describing 5-10th grade students what open source is about [20:12] these students wont understand much about software coding [20:12] and such [20:12] so need something simpler to explain [20:13] have you looked at the open source foundation web site [20:13] humm those talks about the philosophy. [20:14] I understand the philosophy as a whole, but not sure about whether students will understand them [20:14] and I am actually not interested much into just translating any documents [20:14] I am trying to write in Bengali [20:15] Free software is about the free exchange of ideas in the computer science community. [20:15] humm yes. [20:15] I guess that is why I am making it so complicated [20:16] but I dont want to focus just on the software side [20:16] I want to discuse about the open source as a whole [20:16] Which means that the quality of the product is not influenced by business politics or making some deadline or the need to make money [20:16] like open standard, etc [20:17] It doesn't ,matter what you call it open source or free software, which ever works better for you [20:18] humm no no you dont get it [20:18] Here in the US the word open is used by American Express and IBM as trademarks which also makes it confusing in the business world [20:18] I am not just focusing on "SOFTWARE" [20:18] the philosophy as a whole [20:18] like open standerd in production [20:19] oh, i though you didn't like the philosophy ? [20:19] no no why would not I like the philosophy? [20:19] i know I have no use for it , i am just a programmer [20:19] any way you call it its the same [20:19] yes [20:20] any way I think I myself is quite confused now :P [20:20] That isn't always a bad thing, when trying to understand something :-) [20:21] the problem is I quite understand what it is, but its hard to explain to other [20:21] got to go, good luck