[00:01] I have a 1U server I just bought but the wife is complaining bout the noise from the fans ... how can i modify fan speeds? [00:03] lolz, darn wife's [00:04] * Sylphid nods [00:05] fans, for the power supply? cpu? or all [00:06] theres 4-5 chassis fans those are the main ones [00:06] i dont wanna mess with the cpu fan if i can help it and its only a small PS fan so it cant be making to much noise [00:10] hmm, im stumped on adjusting the thoes to. all i can find is how to adjust the CPU :( [00:11] ugh... might have do disconnect 1 or 2 of em [00:11] http://ubuntuforums.org/tags.php?tag=fan+speed [00:11] is what im searching...if that helps [00:12] Sylphid: go put your 1U in the basement and plug a wifi card [00:12] :P [00:13] put it under the bed doesnt help [00:13] aww then i cant use my gig E [00:13] well, then, just put your wife in the basement :0 [00:13] is it going to stay at home that server? [00:13] or yous temporaly while setup? [00:14] depends on if my employer lets me colo for free =D [00:15] right now im anticipating that it will prolly stay at home [00:17] * jmedina thinks there is nothing better than working aside form a 2U rack with lots of fans under presure :P [00:19] * Sylphid wishes his wife felt the same [00:19] i got 3 cisco's i cant turn on unless i need em cuz of the noise.... [00:23] i love my desk =D 1 lappy , 3x desktops and a 1U server on a kvm and a rack with 3 cisco devices in it [00:24] =D. if only your other half shared that love [00:24] I bet your wife doesnt loves your the same... [00:25] still searching...i can find anything on adjusting the fans. only thing i locate is CPU fans and such [00:25] cant* [00:27] does that mobo even support it? [00:33] should ... it has 3 settings in bios... but even the lowest is "to loud" [00:36] mobo is a PDSMi if that helps [00:39] oh, so you are able to set then in the bios? [00:39] them* [00:53] not manually [00:53] all i can do is select full speed server or workstation [00:54] workstation being the slowest but its apparently still to loud [01:00] gonna try updating bios ... well see [03:22] kees: i do have an mdadm patch awaiting sponsorship, though [03:59] nxvl: I don't think your real problem is libtool. [03:59] nxvl: If I give you a hint, would you take another shot at it? [04:04] ScottK: yeah [04:04] for sure [04:04] nxvl: If the package fails because you need to relibtoolize, how come the debian package will build on Ubuntu? [04:05] it actually doesn't even build on experimental [04:05] i tried that [04:05] (the debian package) [04:06] I just built the Debian package on my Intrepid pbuilder and the Ubuntu package failed in my Sid pbuilder. [04:07] Let me attach my diff to the bug (I found a few more things that needed changing. [04:07] let my tried [04:07] but that's odd [04:08] since i loged in into my experimental pbuilder downloaded the source [04:08] and then tried to build it using debuild [04:08] and it failed with the same error [04:11] My diff is in the bug [04:11] Actually I got it backwards. [04:11] My diff builds on Sid, but not Intrepid. [04:11] The Debian revision fails on Intrepid. [04:11] the problem is that intrepid uses experimental libtool's version [04:11] There's one rules change in there about trying to avoid parallel builds. You may want to look into the (I don't think I specified it correctly) [04:12] and sid the same as hardy [04:12] Ah. [04:12] I see. [04:13] yep [04:13] same error with the original debian pcakage [04:14] Argh. [04:14] OK. [04:28] is there something i can install to tell me what files have been changed? for security [04:48] J_5: have you searched synaptic for "files changed" ? [04:50] no.can i search via the command line? [04:51] I have no first hand experience, but I guess "fileschanged" ora "aide" packages could help you [04:52] ok,thanks [04:53] np [05:10] attn everyone: I will mail $20 to the first person to publish a book on KVM: Installation, getting guests up and running, saving/loading machines, advanced features and tasks, and available graphical tools to manage virtual servers, like virt-manager, oVirt, enomalism. Also cover vm-builder, p2v (or similar tool), plug Ubuntu JeOS. [05:11] You could release it like "Dive into Python": Under the FDL but get it published by Apress or No Starch or O'Reilly [05:13] there's no book better than experience [05:13] sommer: that is SO true [05:13] they're called 'guides' for a reason [05:14] man is short of manual :) [05:14] ubuntu-vm-builder is an awesome tool for kvm [05:15] and I'd be willing to bet that when such a book is released it'll be more like $40-$50... just fyi [05:15] I'm not going to argue the merit of books in helping people learn topics. They're helpful. And without good, clear, detailed, (prevalent) documentation, KVM will not be as useful to as many people [05:16] and sommer I know, that's why I don't buy books that often. [05:18] I don't disagree, but KVM is relatively new and has a rapid pace of development, which means it may be a while... at least IMHO [05:19] in the mean time trying stuff out in a test environment is the best way to learn... from my experience :) [05:19] which is what I plan do much more of beginning next week [05:19] * nxvl waves on sommer [05:21] nxvl: I try enlighten, I try... heh [05:21] :D === antdedyet_ is now known as antdedyet [05:30] next week I'm going to be back in my dorm for a week before school starts and I'm going to set up an Ubuntu/KVM machine, then load up a FreeBSD/Xen machine, then maybe an ESXi machine, and see which one I find easiest/fastest, etc. based on completely unscientific methods. [05:34] lukehasnoname: that's cool, you should blog about your results [05:34] I don't have a blag [05:35] but it'll be more scientific if you publish :( [05:35] * nealmcb arrives home after 3.5 weeks :) [05:36] hi nealmcb [05:36] lukehasnoname: howdy! [05:36] sommer, link me up or tell me some commands on testing disk speed and CPU usage of virtual machines with those hypervisors and I'll use a scientific method. <_< Or I'll look it up myself some time. [05:37] lukehasnoname: only one I can think of off hand is hdparm... never tested it in a vm myself though [05:41] hello - I was wondering how to solve an apt-get which complains about dependencies ? [05:48] details [06:02] lukehasnoname: its in the opsview-users mailing list "Installation troubles" [06:03] mm sory thought it was #opsview here lol [06:03] heh. [06:03] I cant even completely remove it from linux [06:03] tried sudo dpkg –remove –force-depends –force-remove-reinstreq [06:04] --purge and all [06:04] yet apt-get install -f still tries to install it [06:07] hey everyone.i am really having trouble with setting up a raid. im trying to use mdadm and now i have a lot of extra stuff "md0p1-md0p4" so i have 2 hard drives and both are 750gb and i just want to make a raid 0 [06:07] and i am trying to make it all ntfs [06:09] Umm. NTFS? [06:09] well its a file server for a windows network [06:10] mdadm --detail /dev/md0 shows that its doing ok but now im worried about the md0p4 stuff [06:11] and when i go to parted i get the following message when i try to "print all" "Error: Unable to open /dev/sda - unrecognised disk label. [06:11] " [06:11] and that is scary because sda is one of the drives making up the raid [06:12] Jut because you're serving a Windows network doesn't mean you need to use NTFS on the server. That's where Samba comes in. [06:13] but i want the fiel speed to go as fast as possible thats why im excited to utilize ntfs-3g [06:14] Use ext3 or JFS or XFS [06:14] well filesystem aside whats up with the md0p4 stuff? should i worry about the disk label thing? [06:18] hads: well even if i decide to use ext3... which would possibly work for me here i still need to lay out my drives and partitions first.. [07:17] sommer, a gift for you http://tinyurl.com/sommer1 [07:52] moin [07:55] morning [08:16] Some things I'm not sure how to do from the command line. Now that I am using Ubuntu Server I am a little lost. How do I change the Software Sources stuff from the cli? [08:17] Look in /etc/apt/sources.list [08:17] I have to change all that shit by hand? [08:18] How would I know? [08:18] <_ruben> find and replace ftw! :p [08:18] What are you trying to do? [08:18] i want to set the mirror to the finland ones [08:18] And what's it pointing at now? [08:18] can I just copy this sources.list from another box that has the correct setup? [08:18] Sure. [08:18] now it's pointing at the HK ones [08:18] <_ruben> if its same version, yes [08:19] my other box is desktop [08:19] <_ruben> version as in hardy/gutsy/etc [08:19] but both are 8.04 [08:19] sed -ie 's/hk.archive.ubuntu/fi.archive.ubuntu/g' /etc/apt/sources.list [08:19] ok [08:19] <_ruben> with a sudo in front ;) [08:19] haha but that doesn't setup which lists i want [08:19] i also want restricted stuff [08:20] <_ruben> then copying over from other box is easiest [08:20] <_ruben> might wanna make a backup of ur current sources.list in case smth breaks [08:20] Ontolog: I don't mean to be offensive, but if something as simple as changing your sources.list makes you react this way, you're in for a rough, rough ride with Ubuntu server. [08:21] yeah i learned ubuntu starting with desktop [08:21] i have no idea how it's all structured underneath the gui [08:22] i'm trying to run: apt-get update [08:22] but i get loads of Bad header line errors [08:22] Well, that's fair enough. We've all been there at some point. [08:23] I'm just saying that if modifying sources.list makes you exclaim "I have to change all that shit by hand?", pretty much everything else you're going to need to do on that server is going to be no fun at all. [08:24] i see, i just didn't realize all the URIs were the same [08:25] when will compiz be ready for the grub menu? [08:25] >_> [08:25] what's up with all this bad header line stuff? [08:25] what does it mean? [08:28] anyone? [08:28] * _ruben wonders how compiz/grub/ubuntu-server relate to eachother [08:28] <_ruben> Ontolog: whats the exact error you get? [08:28] Bad header line [08:29] i'll paste the entire thing if you want [08:29] <_ruben> please do, to a pastebin ofcourse :) [08:30] http://pastebin.com/d59eda2c [08:30] _ruben, don't worry about it [08:30] <_ruben> Ontolog: pastebin your sources.list as well [08:31] i have tried several sources.list files all the same result [08:31] http://pastebin.com/d41f94ab6 [08:32] i have also tried with the hk and fi mirrors [08:35] <_ruben> hmm .. are you behind some kind of proxy perhaps? [08:36] no [08:36] shouldn't be [08:36] i have no problem on my laptop [08:36] just on new installations i have this problem [08:36] pita [08:42] fuck fuck fuck [08:44] rofl [08:47] !language [08:47] Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly. [08:48] yes yes I know the problem [08:48] my ducking lovely IT department [08:48] putting the HTTP firewall up against machines in the server room [08:48] DUCKING MORONS [08:54] <\sh> which is a very good idea [08:56] no [08:56] it's retarded [08:56] because you need a web browser to "log in" to the firewall [08:57] obviously you can't do that with a server (that has no GUI installed and such) [08:58] <\sh> Ontolog: well, you shouldn't have a server in your office network...but apt knows very well to use a proxy server [08:59] exactly, we shouldn't have the server on our office network [08:59] when they were assigning the IP address [08:59] they asked me what's the IP of my desktop machine [08:59] ducking retards [09:00] Do we have an !attitude? [09:00] haha [09:00] yes I do have an [09:00] !attitude [09:00] The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines [09:00] not appropriate, i have an attitude against those i work with not against those in the channel [09:02] <\sh> Ontolog: I think it's better you go to your it department and discuss your company policy with them...your problem is definitly not solvable by us...please ask your sysadmin to help you [09:02] haha yes I know that [09:02] thanks [09:02] i am just complaining [09:02] not seeking you folks to solve retardation in my IT department [09:09] <\sh> well, as most of us are working here as sysadmins I'll take that as a compliment that the IT people actually did something right... [09:09] Anyone with experience using iptables module recent, could you explain this to me: http://rafb.net/p/XGD4zc77.html I am trying to figure it out, how long does an ip stay in the blacklist for ? [09:15] Trust me, any of the people in my IT department would never be found in an IRC channel [09:15] They don't even know what IRC is [09:15] (not joking) [09:16] * lukehasnoname is away: sleep [09:32] I asked yesterday about putting a gui (ubuntu-desktop) on my server for occassional desktop use - electronics hobby related stuff, mainly - and was linked to the ubuntu wiki that first warned me how dodgy it was for servers and how it'll add crap you don't need. I'd still find it useful for the occassional use - maybe a couple of times a month. Is there a way to completely sandbox the GUI part? Not have it start normally, but instead ha [09:34] <_ruben> edmoore: why not do stuff that requires a gui on a/your workstation? [09:35] good question - I have a mac and the tools are linux based, but i could still virtualise. However, being electronics development, it invariabley requires ye olde serial ports and parallel ports, which my server mobo does have, but my macbook doesn't [09:36] <_ruben> ic [09:36] that said, I will investigate squirting stuff over ethernet and having the server do the actual comms bit, and maybe forward it to my mac [09:36] but I am green with all this linux stuff, so I'm not sure how possible that is [09:37] and maybe the server could also do the compiling for the fpga too. [09:38] <_ruben> the only "sandboxing" solution i can come up with is the (in your case not-usefull) virtualization approach [09:39] well I dont necessarily need sandbox, I guess I was wondering if it is equivalent to just start and stop the gnome stuff as I use it/finish with it [09:39] and once I finish it, for any of the associated insecurities of cpu-cycle-munching bits to go away with it [09:39] insecurities or* [10:26] hello, what you think guys to backup my HD into another HD inside the same box [10:27] can you rephrase that? [10:27] exalt__: if you want the exact copy you could use dd [10:28] exalt__: otherwise you can do it with rsync [10:29] maybe rsync better .. cause dd will kill my box [10:30] I'm trying to find where asterisk package searches for sound files, somebody knows? [10:41] <_ruben> micheluntu: /usr/share/asterisk/sounds and/or /usr/local/share/asterisk/sounds it seems [10:41] _ruben: me too... but: file.c:871 ast_streamfile: Unable to open were-sorry (format 0x100 (g729)): No such file or directory [10:42] _ruben: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/37380/ [10:43] I was going crazy with keys directory... In all documents I found asterisk looks for keys in /var/lib/asterisk/keys.. [10:44] in ubuntu searchs only in /usr/share/asterisk/keys ... [10:44] <_ruben> my collegue is our asterisk expert, but he's on vacation atm .. only know the very basics myself [10:44] _ruben: you run asterisk on ubuntu-server? [10:45] <_ruben> yes (migrated it off an fedore box like 1-2 weeks ago) [10:46] _ruben: I think it could be a good idea to create a ubuntu-server-voip group [10:47] to promote asterisk on ubuntu [10:47] From memory Asterisk will warn for files that don't exist while it's looking for different formats. [10:49] hads: ah.. maybe asterisk expects no .gsm codecs ? [10:50] It's looking for g729 sounds files there which you quite possibly don't have. It should fall back to some other format. [10:50] hads: yes it is on the upper warning... Unable to find a codec translation path from g729 to gsm :-( [10:51] You don't have g729 licenses? [10:51] If you want to transcode from/to g729 you need a license. [10:51] hads: no i don't. I'll try to use another codec [10:51] From memory it's 'show translation' or something from the Asterisk CLI [10:52] That will show you what you can use. [10:52] If you're on a LAN go for g711 [10:52] fine now command is core show translations [10:53] no, g723 isn't supported [10:53] Yah, I haven't used Asterisk for a while, they've change a bit in that time. [10:53] Are you on a LAN or WAN? [10:54] hads: now i'm on a lan [10:54] Use g711 then [10:54] alaw/ulaw [10:54] ok [10:54] That's the highest quality you'll get without going wideband. [10:55] ok done [10:57] you are great! works!! [10:57] Cool, easy fix :) [10:58] and the dir is: [10:58] /usr/share/asterisk/sounds [10:58] <_ruben> yay! ;) [10:58] Sounds about right [10:59] Like _ruben said :) [10:59] _ruben: about your architecture, how many asterisk do you have? [11:00] If you're just starting out you should take the time to look into FreeSWITCH - it's really very nice. [11:00] <_ruben> just one .. well .. 2 .. one active, one cold standby [11:01] hads: usually we use trixbox [11:01] <_ruben> hooked up to a isdn15 i think .. and roughly 100 sip clients [11:01] and it works fine for several clients [11:01] now a big client asked us for a very complicated project [11:02] <_ruben> been looking into trixbox and the likes for home use .. but dont really have to the time figure out all the details (concerning the trunks and stuff) [11:02] Asterisk is scary [11:04] hads: yes... but is there something else? [11:05] 22:00:31 < hads> If you're just starting out you should take the time to look into FreeSWITCH - it's really very nice. [11:07] ah sorry I think it was an asterisk interface [11:07] Ah no, it's a competing product. [11:55] hello everyone! [11:57] weird situation here: in crontab i've 1 bash script that just runs fine just after i've other entry pointing to an perl script. both were set as executable files, why perl doesn't run and the other does.... regarding syslog no error appears. if i run that perl script from command line works fine [11:57] anything i'm missing? [11:58] byte_slave: path? [11:58] of that script? [11:59] <`6og> byte_slave, is the perl script in crons path [11:59] byte_slave: maybe I don't understand, pastebin crontab [12:00] ok [12:01] And make sure shebang is correct [12:01] http://pastebin.com/dda0c9b6 [12:01] yeap she bang is ok. shebang = #!/usr/bin/perl -w [12:02] And file is executable? [12:02] yes file = chmod +x [12:03] Odd. Have you tried doing a `sudo -i` and then trying to run the script? [12:05] the script runs fine from commandline [12:05] try running: sudo sh -c /root/scripts/est_disk_space_monitor.pl [12:05] ok, ill do that [12:09] micheluntu, in command line runs ok but via cron no luck :( [12:09] ok, now we'll see why [12:12] byte_slave: see here http://pastebin.com/d373cebe i'll come back in few minuts, now i'm going to eat something.. [12:13] micheluntu, sure dont be starved bc of me! thanks ill check it out ;) === `6og is now known as Kamping_Kaiser [12:25] micheluntu, FYI that script doesn't produce any output - it sends an email only. The pastebin solution you gave me seems that doesn't work [12:25] :( [12:59] byte_slave: is the email emtpy? [13:04] i just wanted to ask if i should update my hardy heron alpha release via internet or download and make a new installation [13:17] ScottK: sorry - I got distracted a little by <20080814120528.AE0611F3EA0@spike.porcupine.org> [13:17] I'll get your feedback today [13:17] rather I'll get you feedback today [13:57] micheluntu, im back sorry...i has to eat something as well ;) [13:57] New bug: #241142 in samba (main) "cannot access network shares on a local-only connection" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/241142 [13:59] micheluntu, email empty? you mean the mail box? sure... it is, when i execute the command manually i receive the mail with no prob.... only cron couldn't execute the job [14:03] byte_slave: so /tmp/est_disk_space_monitor.log is empty? [14:04] yap [14:04] but im not printing anything from inside the perl script file [14:07] byte_slave: yes..sorry I forget a "little" piece.. [14:22] and what is that little piece? [14:27] byte_slave: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/37414/ [14:32] micheluntu, stills nopt working.... never thought that would be that hard... [14:33] and the /tmp/xxx.log is still empty? [14:40] New bug: #257893 in postfix (main) "Please sync postfix 2.5.2-2 (main) from Debian unstable (main)." [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/257893 [14:41] New bug: #257892 in php5 (main) "PHP (Cli) generates invalid output when it exceeds 4kB" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/257892 [14:42] gar [14:42] dear requestsync: please let me edit the subject of the bug before submittal as well. [14:43] there. title of Bug#257893 fix0red [14:51] micheluntu, nope [14:52] it has this http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/37427 [14:59] hi all! Im having problems with a cronjob which is loaded but not being executed [15:00] if any one can help me, id be glad. [15:01] *anyone [15:06] pastebin the cron and script entry plz [15:37] byte_slave: sorry for the delay. I was busy with other things. here it is: http://pastebin.us/?show=d38a8c2d [15:46] <[yzf600]> howdy [15:47] <[yzf600]> I've got group issues when using LDAP and local files [15:47] <[yzf600]> I have an ubuntu client, connected to an LDAP server [15:47] <[yzf600]> the LDAP server config has been changed to remove me from some groups [15:48] <[yzf600]> problem is, any terminals I run under gnome still show me being a member of the old groups [15:48] <[yzf600]> if I login via text console (ctl-alt-f1), the groups show up correctly [15:49] <[yzf600]> I even re-booted and the old group memberships still show up [15:49] <[yzf600]> is there some sort of groups cache somehwere > [15:52] New bug: #257909 in bind9 (main) "bind9 doesn't bind to IPv6 interfaces" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/257909 [16:46] i've zeroed out raid superblocks with mdadm --zero-superblock after booting with init=/bin/sh rw. now boot stops at "Begin: Starting up RAIDs. Please wait, the process may take a long time!" [16:46] how can i resolve this and remove raid completely? [16:46] it were raid1 arrays, i want to separate the 2 drives. currently only one drive in the pc [16:46] boot stops here even when booting with noinitrd init=/bin/sh rw [17:00] how can i disable initramfs on booting? [17:05] hello [17:05] in ubuntu /etc/fstab is not the same as in other distributions [17:05] will the old mounting work? [17:05] or only based on UUID? [17:06] on ubuntu you can use either uuid or /dev/sdX, both will work [17:07] ok [17:07] thanks [17:18] Greetings [17:19] I'm setting up a secondary IP address on a single homed box... I've modified interfaces and added auto eth0:1 and the appropriate iface eth0:1 inet static and entered in an address, netmask and gateway... [17:19] ... when I restart the networking process I get a SIOCSIFFLAGS: Cannot assign requested address [ OK ] [17:20] everything appears to work, as I can ping the new address... but I'm not sure if everything is alright. [17:20] what can I do to check [17:33] Is there a Gutsy to Hardy upgrade doc? [17:33] or is it stupid simple? [17:55] Fenix|work: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading <-- if you have all updated a do-release-upgrade will do .. [18:29] * delcoyote hi [18:43] mathiaz: ping [18:45] kirkland: howdy ! :) [18:45] mathiaz: dendrobates pointed me to you for a package review [18:45] mathiaz: i suppose we should move this over to #ubuntu-motu [18:54] exit [18:54] exit [19:37] I seem to have a bit of a problem... running do-release-upgrade, I appear to be stuck on 'Generating locales...' [19:55] anyone awake? [19:56] just us bots! [19:56] nice [19:58] Fenix|work, that can sometimes take time... just let it ride... [19:58] hi guys [19:58] anyone installed ubuntu in a hyper-v virtual machine before? [19:59] i have it installed but can't seem to get a network connection [20:01] Mez, 13343 pts/1 R+ 36:28 localedef --no-archive --magic=20051014 -i en_CA -c -f UTF-8 en_CA.UTF-8 [20:02] Fenix|work, R+ means it's running... [20:02] never seen is run for so long [20:04] 40 minutes now [20:08] Mez, any way I can verify that it is indeed running? [20:08] the R+ says it is... [20:15] I've found bugs... [20:15] bug 249340 [20:15] Launchpad bug 249340 in linux-source-2.6.22 "Gutsy->Hardy upgrade hangs in localedef" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/249340 === freaky[t] is now known as fReAkY[t] === fReAkY[t] is now known as freaky[t] [20:29] Maz, I think there is something wrong... 64 minutes @ 100% CPU. That can't be normal. [20:37] kirkland: i'm shocked about persia's comment [20:37] :S [20:52] trying to set up a wireless point as per https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessAccessPoint [20:52] however, when I get to 'sudo echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward' [20:52] I get permission denied [20:52] any ideas? [21:00] edmoore: try sudo sh -c "echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward" [21:01] seem to not be able to log int through ssh after restart [21:01] might have broken it somehow [21:08] ScottK: and 2937 is a bug that only exists if you have an insanely stupid config (/var/mail mode 1777) === erichammond1 is now known as erichammond [22:10] how do I install an unstable debian package? [22:12] Fenix|work: dpkg? [22:12] Fenix|work: which package? [22:12] libapache2-mod-xmlrpc2 [22:13] isnt it in intrepid? [22:14] I guess you want to install it in hardy [22:14] the 8.04 version doesn't work (see bug 157424), so the recommendation is the unstable version [22:14] bug 157424 [22:14] Fenix|work: Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out [22:14] Launchpad bug 157424 in libapache2-mod-xmlrpc2 "mod_xmlrpc.so: undefined symbol: xmlrpc_registry_new" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/157424 [22:15] jmedina, yes, in hardy :) [22:15] but I have no clue on unstable packages [22:15] I just download the unstable one from debian and use dpkg? [22:16] if nothing bracks, you can download the package and installit [22:16] previos backup of coure [22:23] where do I find the unstable version? [22:25] packages.debian.org [22:26] how do I find out the version I'm currently running? [22:27] dpkg -l | grep libapache-mod-xmlrpc2 [22:44] what a good backup tool for ubuntu server [22:44] that will do differtianals [22:45] !backup [22:45] There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning [22:45] gopatwork: a really good one, I would recomend bacula [22:45] gopatwork: but it depends what you want to backup [22:45] I use bacula as a network backup solution [22:46] backuing up from freebsd, linux, windows, to har disk, tape and lately dvds [22:46] backing linux apache server to terra station [22:46] i.e. NAS [22:47] jeje, then you can use cp [22:47] :P [22:47] rsnapshot it is simple [22:47] rdiff [22:47] but that won't create a image of the whole drive [22:47] oh [22:47] heheheh [22:47] nop [22:47] you never said that [22:48] I want a recovery image, incase the system goes down [22:48] that I can recover [22:49] mondo