[00:06] <dupondje> any id why it doesn't boot anymore, using dmraid with raid0
[00:06] <dupondje> upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10
[00:06] <dupondje> can't find root fs
[00:06] <dupondje> the mapper dmraid's aren't created anymore it seems
[00:17] <dupondje> its quite silent here :D
[00:26] <RAOF> Sometimes, yes.
[00:28] <dupondje> mmm solved :P
[00:30] <jdrake> How is jfs and xfs going for file system performance these days?
[00:31] <RAOF> ext3 has got a lot faster; I don't know about those.
[00:31] <jdrake> Has ext4 made any progress?
[00:32] <jdrake> ZFS sounds nice
[01:07] <dmoerner> ext3 is fastest with cowdancer
[01:11] <bronson> Is there a way to use the nv driver with Intrepid 4?
[01:11] <bronson> Or am I stuck at 800x600?  :)
[01:11] <dupondje> any id how I can check content of initramfs ?
[01:12] <bronson> dupondje, check /boot.
[01:12] <dupondje> how can I unpack it ? :)
[01:13] <bronson> it's just a gzipped cpio archive I think.
[01:14] <dmoerner> dupondje, gunzip initrd.gz | cpio -imdF i think
[01:14] <dmoerner> or -idv
[01:14] <dmoerner> to recreate run find . -print -depth | cpio -ov | gzip >initrd
[01:15] <bronson> How do I discover what driver my X is using?
[01:15] <bronson> ~/.xsession-errors is looking pretty ufamiliar.
[01:15] <dmoerner> bronson, look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:16] <bronson> dmoerner, ah, cool.  That looks familiar
[01:16] <dupondje> worked :D
[01:16] <bronson> Looks like VESA.
[01:17] <bronson> Guess I'll try to force it to use nv...?
[01:22] <dupondje> somebody with 8.04 here ?
[01:23] <dmoerner> dupondje, i have 8.04
[01:23] <dupondje> just found out I can fix it another way
[01:23] <dupondje> tracking some bug :x
[01:31] <dupondje> whoei :P
[01:31] <dupondje> fixxed bug
[01:33] <jake_> hello
[01:33] <ikonia> hello
[01:34] <jake_> what forum is this im really new
[01:35] <ikonia> it's not a forum, it's an irc channel, based on random ubuntu chatter
[01:35] <ikonia> jake_: type "/topic" for more info
[01:35] <jake_> cool cool thanks
[01:38] <dupondje> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dmraid/+bug/247027
[01:38] <dupondje> fixxed :D
[01:43] <jake_> ^x
[01:43] <ikonia> jake_: what's up ?
[02:18] <bronson> Wait, Intrepid's Compiz still can't resize windows on the fly?
[02:18] <crdlb> "on the fly"?
[02:18] <crdlb> you mean without the rectangle?
[02:18] <bronson> crdlb, exactly.
[02:19] <crdlb> that's a deviation by ubuntu from the compiz defaults
[02:19] <crdlb> (and a very good one)
[02:19] <bronson> why is it a good one?
[02:19] <bronson> it makes me feel like I'm using a Mac SE.
[02:19] <crdlb> because resizing with a compositing manager is slow and will be for a while
[02:20] <crdlb> and on top of that, gtk+ already sucks at resizing (mainly because of its overuse of subwindows)
[02:20] <bronson> Huh.
[02:20] <crdlb> then change the resize mode to Normal and suffer the slowness :)
[02:20] <bronson> Owell, guess I'll run intrepid without the desktop effects too.
[02:21] <crdlb> fantastic
[02:22] <crdlb> it might even be ok with your driver, but that would definitely be an exception
[02:22] <crdlb> I've heard it's very good with the open source R500 driver
[02:22] <JontheEchidna> KDE4 is bit by the same problem with the nvidia drivers in particular
[02:22] <bronson> crdlb, how do I change the resize mode?
[02:23] <crdlb> ccsm > Resize Windows > Resize Mode
[02:26] <bronson> Oh crap.  Don't set wobbly windows friction to 0.1.
[02:26]  * bronson is going to have fun going through ccsm...
[02:29] <bronson> crdlb, right on.  that worked great.  Thanks!
[02:30] <bronson> I'm using a GeForce 7100 -- doesn't appear to be any slowdown at all.
[02:32] <crdlb> cool, I think the geforce 8 and 9 cards are a lot worse though
[02:32] <crdlb> (ie the nvidia driver has really poor 2d acceleration with those models)
[02:32] <bronson> that makes sense.
[02:39] <bronson> Hm.  When compiz is running, the Gnome keyboard shortcuts don't work.
[02:46] <bronson> Ah.  You can set keybindings in ccsm.
[02:51] <Ziroday>  In intrepid does the desktop installer do encrypted partitions or still only the alternate installer?
[02:53] <cmdrpinksock> ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[02:53] <cmdrpinksock> yup, the upgradew breaks
[02:53] <cmdrpinksock> lol
[02:56] <Hobbsee> you were expecting something else?
[03:01] <RAOF> Ziroday: Still only alternate, IIRC.
[03:06] <Ziroday> RAOF: darn, okay thanks a lot
[03:33] <voidmage> what's the equivalent for kcontrol in intrepid?
[03:35] <Hobbsee> system settings?
[05:23] <Finnish> Is conky working ok in Ibex?
[05:26] <Fredd> getting random untitled windows...is this a bug?
[05:26] <RAOF> Fredd: Yes.
[05:26] <Fredd> which package?
[05:26] <Fredd> or core?
[05:27] <RAOF> Probably a xulrunner bug.
[05:41] <Fredd> oh and how come when i have like 6 windows of the same app they are not grouped in the gnome-panel...should a file a gnome request or is this customizable?
[05:55] <Finnish> How do I make a shortcut in terminal?
[05:55] <Finnish> e.g. my home folder to my desktop?
[07:09] <bronson> Finnish, ln -s ~ ~/Desktop
[07:10] <Finnish> Thanks!
[07:57] <Fredd> ROAF: the problem seems to be related to compiz
[07:57] <Fredd> i cant close that untitled window and compiz is disabled for some reason
[07:58] <teamcobra> hrm, kde-systemsettings depends on kde-control, but it is not available.... is there any other way to change the kde themes, etc?
[07:59] <teamcobra> sorry, it depends on kcontrol , not kde-control
[07:59] <teamcobra> wait, nevermind, I believe package systemsettings does the trick :/
[09:19] <dupondje> can't set a static IP ? :s
[09:29] <siimo> anyone here running ibex?
[09:38] <teamcobra> yes, amd64 ibex
[09:48] <Belboz99> Hey all, anyone here know if this newer version of X.org is likely to resolve an issue I'm having displaying at 1920x1080P on a Samsung LCD HDTV?
[09:49] <Belboz99> the machine we're using to display at that res is currently running Ubuntu 8.04 with Mythbuntu added on
[09:50] <Belboz99> something happened in the past few weeks to cause that functionality to break
[09:50] <Belboz99> likely an "update"
[09:51] <siimo> i will upgrade to ibex tonight]
[09:52] <Belboz99> hey siimo, what do you think?
[09:53] <Belboz99> is it worth upgrading the machine to Ibex in order to see if it will resolve my X.org issue?
[09:53] <Unksi> Belboz99: you could try with the livecd
[09:53] <Unksi> alpha4 was released yesterday
[09:53] <Belboz99> Unksi: yeah, I suppose that's worth a shot
[09:54] <Unksi> try it also with the drivers (nvidia etc) to see how it works with them
[09:54] <Belboz99> k
[09:55] <Belboz99> I'm using Ibex in a VM right now, just getting a feel for it
[09:55] <Unksi> because they may give better funtionality
[09:55] <Belboz99> yeah
[09:55] <Belboz99> It
[09:55] <Belboz99> 's a radeon 7000 GPU
[09:55] <Belboz99> it worked perfectly fine OTOB for months until that silly update :/
[09:56] <Unksi> :/
[09:56] <Belboz99> er, Out of the box, OOTB?
[09:56] <Unksi> i guess thats not even supported by fglrx
[09:56] <Belboz99> nope :(
[09:56] <Unksi> so it should work without installing any drivers
[09:56] <Belboz99> should, that's how it worked before
[09:56] <Unksi> if it works that is
[09:57] <Belboz99> hell, it worked off the live CD at first, now I downloaded an updated version of the CD and that doesn't work in live mode either
[09:57] <Unksi> ive had serious performance issues with radeon 9200, i just switched to another low end card from nvidia
[09:57] <Belboz99> yeah, all we're using it for is putting up a slideshow at work
[09:58] <Belboz99> we've got a big-honkin' 50" screen that we bought to give photo classes with (we're a camera store)
[09:58] <Belboz99> so, I've been putting up a lot of my best photos in a slideshow format to show people what they expect with one of our DSLR's
[09:59] <Unksi> 50".. that sounds real nice :)
[10:02] <Belboz99> yeah, it is :)
[10:02] <Belboz99> so, is there a list of the biggest improvements expected for Ibex somewhere?
[10:03] <Unksi> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid
[10:03] <Unksi> theres one
[10:07] <Belboz99> thanks
[10:07] <Belboz99> I'm just wondering, what's the biggest changes I'll either see or "feel", a lot of that stuff looks nice and all, but how will affect the end user?
[10:08] <Belboz99> We've got a few machines running 8.04 at work, and a lot of my co-workers are having a hard time dealing with the UI primarily
[10:09] <Belboz99> stuff like if you right click in the whitespace of a nautilus window it doesn't allow you to create a new folder, not unless the whitespace is below the list of items, which only happens on short lists
[10:11] <Belboz99> also, it seems to be a lot harder than it should be to make windows shares that are both accessible and writable by other windows users
[10:11] <Belboz99> it took me quite some time to get all the samba shares set up right, and even then, there's still one machine that's never been properly configured
[10:31] <klerfayt> X.Org version: 1.4.99.906 is in fact x.org 1.5?
[11:03] <ulaas>  is there a way to install firefox without gnome dependencies on intrepid?
[11:04] <ulaas> kubuntu of course
[11:28] <TheInfinity> ulaas: you can try this new qt firefox
[11:29] <TheInfinity> but i dont think there are already debs in repo ...
[12:46] <klerfayt> I'm so sad :-( how do I go back in bash history now? (konsole)
[12:47] <ccooke> klerfayt: Press 'up' to recall the previous command, or you can press Ctrl-R (from an empty prompt) for a search-as-you-type function. Ctrl-R/Ctrl-N to cycle through the matches
[12:47] <klerfayt> ccooke: it doesn't work, that's why I'm asking
[12:48] <klerfayt> I'll try relogging to kde
[12:48] <ccooke> ah.
[12:49] <klerfayt> works now...
[12:51] <klerfayt> this keyboard layout tool in kde4 is broken
[12:53] <klerfayt> and it breaks konsole then I try to use it
[12:54] <klerfayt> god why I keep bothering with ubuntu alphas, someone punish me ;-)
[13:04] <lavish> Hi guys, I've already asked it yesterday, but I had no reply: - I have a backup so I'm not a fool - anyway, is it possible to downgrade from 8.10 to 8.04?
[13:06] <zniavre> i made this but two days after alpha 1 was out
[13:07] <zniavre> but right now it seems to be more complicated i think (too many downgrade)
[13:08] <JontheEchidna> I don't think it's possible to downgrade
[13:31] <IdleOne> lavish, downgrade is not possible. you can do a fresh install of 8.04 ( good thing you have backups )
[13:32] <lavish> oky, I'll restore my backup, thanks :)
[13:44] <IdleOne> would be nice if someone would perhaps build in a "return to last know stable point" but then again if we wanted that we could run windows
[13:46] <elkbuntu> IdleOne, that does kinda go into grub now
[13:46] <IdleOne> elkbuntu, yeah I didn't think about that
[13:46] <IdleOne> guess we do have that last stable boot
[13:47] <elkbuntu> IdleOne, although... im not sure grub is healthy at the moment. my menu.lst is not looking... normal
[13:47] <Redhammer> hello - short question does anyone else have a problem to get the DNS server to stick when using manual ipv4 settings in network manager, mine seems to go blank al the time
[13:48] <IdleOne> elkbuntu, right now I am not messing around to much. don't want to make any waves. just looking over updateds/upgrades and hoping nothing major breaks. just glad I got my /home on seperate partition
[13:48] <jrib> I only run development releases virtualized
[13:49] <elkbuntu> jrib, eeepc. toy. reinstallable
[13:50] <IdleOne> jrib, I did with the first 2 alpha's but it just is not the same as jumping in head first. so I move /home this way I have my backups
[13:50] <elkbuntu> however, last i checked, menu.lst did not start with Name: adduser/homedir-permission
[13:51] <IdleOne> today is friday huh :/
[13:52] <Redhammer> sorry to ask again but anybody else got problems with DNS server setting being " wiped off " all the time ?
[13:55] <IdleOne> Redhammer, if they aren't answering means either they have not tried and don't know or they are not here to answer. be patient and try again later.
[16:01] <Redhammer> hello - short question does anyone else have a problem to get the DNS server to stick when using manual ipv4 settings in network manager, mine seems to go blank al the time
[16:21] <astra-xwork> http://pastebin.ca/1173033
[16:21] <astra-xwork> that is my error
[16:21] <astra-xwork> same as: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=882185&goto=nextoldest
[16:21] <astra-xwork> but i did not even change a kernel option
[16:22] <astra-xwork> apt is broken and it cannot fix itself
[16:25] <Scorcher> does anyonw know how to recover from the upgrade install?
[16:59] <Reaby> Where can i file a request for a missing feature to be added to intrepid
[16:59] <Reaby> i mean basic install should include needed ppp tools for these new mobile internet connections
[16:59] <Redhammer> hello - short question does anyone else have a problem to get the DNS server to stick when using manual ipv4 settings in network manager, mine seems to go blank al the time
[17:00] <Reaby> maybe somekind of wizard for huwai mobile internet and such like
[17:28] <JollyGiant> anyone using intrepid with an x3100?
[17:28] <JollyGiant> I can't seem to play any '3d' games except xmoto
[17:29] <JollyGiant> the rest either crash the X server or just give a white screen
[17:53] <Sharpie> how can i upgrade from alpha 3 to alpha 4? (doesn't show up when i run 'update-manager -d')
[17:53] <zniavre> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade   >alpha4
[17:53] <Reaby> afaik it updates normally with daily updates.
[17:55] <Sharpie> is there any way to see what version i'm using? (which alpha)
[17:55] <JollyGiant> no, not really
[17:56] <JollyGiant> the alphas are just snapshots of development
[17:56] <Sharpie> then i'll just assume it's as new as it's gonna get
[17:56] <Reaby> does bsd_release -a show someting
[17:56] <JollyGiant> only difference between them and the daily snapshots that are autogenerated is someone actually checks to see if they work
[17:57] <johninlex> hello all
[17:58] <Sharpie> why is there no encrypt option in nautilus? (it exists in 8.04)
[18:27] <Some_Person> I heard a rumor that Intrepid has a new theme. Is it true?
[18:31] <LSD|Ninja> I could have It does, but it's temporary
[18:31] <LSD|Ninja> bah
[18:32] <Some_Person> Screenshot?
[18:33] <LSD|Ninja> I don't have it handy, I trashed it at the first oppurtunity
[18:44] <Some_Person> Is it nice?
[19:11] <meta> Hi all
[19:12] <meta> Is i'm remember well that somebody said to me (here or some where in #kubuntu or #kde) that the alpha comes yesterday?
[19:12] <bazhang> yup
[19:13] <bazhang> alpha 4 to be precise meta
[19:13] <meta> and... is it released?
[19:13] <bazhang> yesh :)
[19:13] <meta> because i apt-get upgraded my interpid install
[19:13] <bazhang> then you are up to date
[19:14] <Some_Person> How unstable is intrepid at this point?
[19:14] <bazhang> assuming your mirrors have synced of course
[19:14] <bazhang> read the /topic and decide for yourself Some_Person
[19:14] <meta> and not too much changes found
[19:15] <bazhang> the part about 'total system failure' in particular :)
[19:15] <meta> hmm then i try with us mirrors
[19:15] <Some_Person> I was hoping for details than a warning.
[19:15] <bazhang> that is warning enough for me :)
[19:15] <meta> ::)
[19:15] <meta> for example my yakuake is frozen by now
[19:15] <bazhang> the release notes can be found
[19:16] <meta> so it hink i just reboot:)
[19:16] <meta> is this the kubuntu devel channel too?
[19:16] <bazhang> oops sorry
[19:16] <Some_Person> I'll probably get Intrepid installed at a late beta, or if there's something really bad at that point the RC
[19:17] <meta> at RC not too much, but interpid is now alpha, as bazhang said:)
[19:17] <meta> Release candidate and alpha are two very different things:)
[19:17] <Some_Person> I would never install an alpha
[19:17] <bazhang> I'll install at rc :)
[19:17] <meta> Then you must wait for interpid:)
[19:17] <Some_Person> I normally do try the alphas as a live cd
[19:17] <Some_Person> But I don't install them
[19:17] <bazhang> in a vm sure
[19:19] <Some_Person> I remember the Hardy RC. I was so happy when I installed it because Compiz finally worked correctly without XGL
[19:20] <meta> I remember when i bought my eee 1000h, and i had no direct rendering
[19:20] <meta> one day after a kernel and an intel xorg driver upgrade comes
[19:20] <meta> and dri comes too:)
[19:21] <Some_Person> You bought an eeePC?
[19:21] <meta> yep.
[19:21] <Some_Person> What's it like?
[19:21] <meta> ?
[19:21] <zniavre> small
[19:22] <meta> yep. But i like it:)
[19:23] <meta> no, i replaced my repos to the us mirror, and upgraded,, so i'll take a reboot and check how it plays:)
[19:23] <meta> brb
[19:24] <Some_Person> Why are the New Zealand repos faster than US for me?
[19:26] <meta> re
[19:28] <meta> The gui still not too responsive, the 3 second before the kmenu loads shows a memory bug at the place of the kmenu. Still no microphone, but now i have lan.
[19:28] <meta> Some systray app's background is messed.
[19:28] <meta> If somebody intrested...
[19:29] <meta> And the alt-f2 window is a pita while loads...:/
[19:35] <Ienorand> Is anybody else having troubles with wireless in Ibex-a4, are there any updates since the a4 release?
[20:01] <askand> Is the GNOME Formatter in gnome yet?
[20:47] <awalton_laptop> askand, I don't think it is
[20:52] <askand> awalton_laptop:  Oh :( Thanks for answering
[20:53] <marc> evening everyone
[20:53] <marc> can someone assist me in finding a restricted modules package for 2.6.26-5-generic
[20:53] <marc> i'm in dire need of one =)
[20:54] <marc> (one that contains the nvidia drivers at least)
[21:19] <dupondje> U can't set a static IP with the network manager ?
[21:20] <dupondje> the OK button gets gray when u select Manual
[21:22] <moh_bana> hi
[21:22] <moh_bana> how do i run a check on a fat32 drive?
[22:18] <dupondje> reboot doesn't work from the gui (gnome) ? :s
[22:22] <JontheEchidna> dupondje: It's a known bug. Right now you have to log out and then reboot for it to work
[22:22] <JontheEchidna> ...with Gnome, anyway. ;-)
[22:22] <dupondje> :p
[22:22] <dupondje> I just use the console for now :P
[22:22] <dupondje> and the Network manager is totally fucked also it seems :s
[22:23] <JontheEchidna> ya, there have been some issues with the new nm 0.7 for some it seems
[22:23] <JontheEchidna> not so bad if you have a wired connection though, heh
[22:23] <dupondje> I have wired :p
[22:23] <dupondje> can't set static ip
[22:24] <JontheEchidna> Not so bad if you use DCHP. :P
[22:24] <dupondje> just want static :D
[22:26] <ryancr> trying to install alpha4 on virtual box 1.6.4, get kernel panic, is this an virutalbox problem or an ubuntu problem?
[22:26] <dupondje> panic with what error ? :)
[22:27] <dupondje> its prolly ubuntu problem
[22:27] <dupondje> its ALPHA ...
[22:27] <dupondje> :p
[22:27] <ryancr> hmm seems to be: from the forums: I get "Kernel Panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!"
[22:32] <dupondje> ryancr: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/linux/+bug/246067
[22:32] <ryancr> dupondje: thanks
[22:34] <askand> I recently tried alpha 4 live cd and I did not see a private directory or a guestaccount in the fastuserswitcher, do you have to install to see this?
[23:00] <mvo> askand: it is only available via the "fast-user-switch" applet AFAIK
[23:00] <askand> mvo: yes but it wasnt :(
[23:01] <mvo> askand: hm, do you have the gdm-guest-session package installed?
[23:02] <askand> mvo: no only tried from the livecd as I said :)