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dupondjeany id why it doesn't boot anymore, using dmraid with raid000:06
dupondjeupgraded from 8.04 to 8.1000:06
dupondjecan't find root fs00:06
dupondjethe mapper dmraid's aren't created anymore it seems00:06
dupondjeits quite silent here :D00:17
RAOFSometimes, yes.00:26
dupondjemmm solved :P00:28
jdrakeHow is jfs and xfs going for file system performance these days?00:30
RAOFext3 has got a lot faster; I don't know about those.00:31
jdrakeHas ext4 made any progress?00:31
jdrakeZFS sounds nice00:32
dmoernerext3 is fastest with cowdancer01:07
bronsonIs there a way to use the nv driver with Intrepid 4?01:11
bronsonOr am I stuck at 800x600?  :)01:11
dupondjeany id how I can check content of initramfs ?01:11
bronsondupondje, check /boot.01:12
dupondjehow can I unpack it ? :)01:12
bronsonit's just a gzipped cpio archive I think.01:13
dmoernerdupondje, gunzip initrd.gz | cpio -imdF i think01:14
dmoerneror -idv01:14
dmoernerto recreate run find . -print -depth | cpio -ov | gzip >initrd01:14
bronsonHow do I discover what driver my X is using?01:15
bronson~/.xsession-errors is looking pretty ufamiliar.01:15
dmoernerbronson, look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log01:15
bronsondmoerner, ah, cool.  That looks familiar01:16
dupondjeworked :D01:16
bronsonLooks like VESA.01:16
bronsonGuess I'll try to force it to use nv...?01:17
dupondjesomebody with 8.04 here ?01:22
dmoernerdupondje, i have 8.0401:23
dupondjejust found out I can fix it another way01:23
dupondjetracking some bug :x01:23
dupondjewhoei :P01:31
dupondjefixxed bug01:31
jake_hello01:33
ikoniahello01:33
jake_what forum is this im really new01:34
ikoniait's not a forum, it's an irc channel, based on random ubuntu chatter01:35
ikoniajake_: type "/topic" for more info01:35
jake_cool cool thanks01:35
dupondjehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dmraid/+bug/24702701:38
dupondjefixxed :D01:38
ubottuLaunchpad bug 247027 in dmraid "initramfs prompts because of dmraid" [Undecided,Fix committed]01:38
jake_^x01:43
ikoniajake_: what's up ?01:43
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bronsonWait, Intrepid's Compiz still can't resize windows on the fly?02:18
crdlb"on the fly"?02:18
crdlbyou mean without the rectangle?02:18
bronsoncrdlb, exactly.02:18
crdlbthat's a deviation by ubuntu from the compiz defaults02:19
crdlb(and a very good one)02:19
bronsonwhy is it a good one?02:19
bronsonit makes me feel like I'm using a Mac SE.02:19
crdlbbecause resizing with a compositing manager is slow and will be for a while02:19
crdlband on top of that, gtk+ already sucks at resizing (mainly because of its overuse of subwindows)02:20
bronsonHuh.02:20
crdlbthen change the resize mode to Normal and suffer the slowness :)02:20
bronsonOwell, guess I'll run intrepid without the desktop effects too.02:20
crdlbfantastic02:21
crdlbit might even be ok with your driver, but that would definitely be an exception02:22
crdlbI've heard it's very good with the open source R500 driver02:22
JontheEchidnaKDE4 is bit by the same problem with the nvidia drivers in particular02:22
bronsoncrdlb, how do I change the resize mode?02:22
crdlbccsm > Resize Windows > Resize Mode02:23
bronsonOh crap.  Don't set wobbly windows friction to 0.1.02:26
* bronson is going to have fun going through ccsm...02:26
bronsoncrdlb, right on.  that worked great.  Thanks!02:29
bronsonI'm using a GeForce 7100 -- doesn't appear to be any slowdown at all.02:30
crdlbcool, I think the geforce 8 and 9 cards are a lot worse though02:32
crdlb(ie the nvidia driver has really poor 2d acceleration with those models)02:32
bronsonthat makes sense.02:32
bronsonHm.  When compiz is running, the Gnome keyboard shortcuts don't work.02:39
bronsonAh.  You can set keybindings in ccsm.02:46
Ziroday In intrepid does the desktop installer do encrypted partitions or still only the alternate installer?02:51
cmdrpinksockahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh02:53
cmdrpinksockyup, the upgradew breaks02:53
cmdrpinksocklol02:53
Hobbseeyou were expecting something else?02:56
RAOFZiroday: Still only alternate, IIRC.03:01
ZirodayRAOF: darn, okay thanks a lot03:06
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voidmagewhat's the equivalent for kcontrol in intrepid?03:33
Hobbseesystem settings?03:35
FinnishIs conky working ok in Ibex?05:23
Freddgetting random untitled windows...is this a bug?05:26
RAOFFredd: Yes.05:26
Freddwhich package?05:26
Freddor core?05:26
RAOFProbably a xulrunner bug.05:27
Freddoh and how come when i have like 6 windows of the same app they are not grouped in the gnome-panel...should a file a gnome request or is this customizable?05:41
FinnishHow do I make a shortcut in terminal?05:55
Finnishe.g. my home folder to my desktop?05:55
bronsonFinnish, ln -s ~ ~/Desktop07:09
FinnishThanks!07:10
FreddROAF: the problem seems to be related to compiz07:57
Freddi cant close that untitled window and compiz is disabled for some reason07:57
teamcobrahrm, kde-systemsettings depends on kde-control, but it is not available.... is there any other way to change the kde themes, etc?07:58
teamcobrasorry, it depends on kcontrol , not kde-control07:59
teamcobrawait, nevermind, I believe package systemsettings does the trick :/07:59
dupondjecan't set a static IP ? :s09:19
siimoanyone here running ibex?09:29
teamcobrayes, amd64 ibex09:38
Belboz99Hey all, anyone here know if this newer version of X.org is likely to resolve an issue I'm having displaying at 1920x1080P on a Samsung LCD HDTV?09:48
Belboz99the machine we're using to display at that res is currently running Ubuntu 8.04 with Mythbuntu added on09:49
Belboz99something happened in the past few weeks to cause that functionality to break09:50
Belboz99likely an "update"09:50
siimoi will upgrade to ibex tonight]09:51
Belboz99hey siimo, what do you think?09:52
Belboz99is it worth upgrading the machine to Ibex in order to see if it will resolve my X.org issue?09:53
UnksiBelboz99: you could try with the livecd09:53
Unksialpha4 was released yesterday09:53
Belboz99Unksi: yeah, I suppose that's worth a shot09:53
Unksitry it also with the drivers (nvidia etc) to see how it works with them09:54
Belboz99k09:54
Belboz99I'm using Ibex in a VM right now, just getting a feel for it09:55
Unksibecause they may give better funtionality09:55
Belboz99yeah09:55
Belboz99It09:55
Belboz99's a radeon 7000 GPU09:55
Belboz99it worked perfectly fine OTOB for months until that silly update :/09:55
Unksi:/09:56
Belboz99er, Out of the box, OOTB?09:56
Unksii guess thats not even supported by fglrx09:56
Belboz99nope :(09:56
Unksiso it should work without installing any drivers09:56
Belboz99should, that's how it worked before09:56
Unksiif it works that is09:56
Belboz99hell, it worked off the live CD at first, now I downloaded an updated version of the CD and that doesn't work in live mode either09:57
Unksiive had serious performance issues with radeon 9200, i just switched to another low end card from nvidia09:57
Belboz99yeah, all we're using it for is putting up a slideshow at work09:57
Belboz99we've got a big-honkin' 50" screen that we bought to give photo classes with (we're a camera store)09:58
Belboz99so, I've been putting up a lot of my best photos in a slideshow format to show people what they expect with one of our DSLR's09:58
Unksi50".. that sounds real nice :)09:59
Belboz99yeah, it is :)10:02
Belboz99so, is there a list of the biggest improvements expected for Ibex somewhere?10:02
Unksihttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid10:03
Unksitheres one10:03
Belboz99thanks10:07
Belboz99I'm just wondering, what's the biggest changes I'll either see or "feel", a lot of that stuff looks nice and all, but how will affect the end user?10:07
Belboz99We've got a few machines running 8.04 at work, and a lot of my co-workers are having a hard time dealing with the UI primarily10:08
Belboz99stuff like if you right click in the whitespace of a nautilus window it doesn't allow you to create a new folder, not unless the whitespace is below the list of items, which only happens on short lists10:09
Belboz99also, it seems to be a lot harder than it should be to make windows shares that are both accessible and writable by other windows users10:11
Belboz99it took me quite some time to get all the samba shares set up right, and even then, there's still one machine that's never been properly configured10:11
klerfaytX.Org version: 1.4.99.906 is in fact x.org 1.5?10:31
ulaas is there a way to install firefox without gnome dependencies on intrepid?11:03
ulaaskubuntu of course11:04
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TheInfinityulaas: you can try this new qt firefox11:28
TheInfinitybut i dont think there are already debs in repo ...11:29
klerfaytI'm so sad :-( how do I go back in bash history now? (konsole)12:46
ccookeklerfayt: Press 'up' to recall the previous command, or you can press Ctrl-R (from an empty prompt) for a search-as-you-type function. Ctrl-R/Ctrl-N to cycle through the matches12:47
klerfaytccooke: it doesn't work, that's why I'm asking12:47
klerfaytI'll try relogging to kde12:48
ccookeah.12:48
klerfaytworks now...12:49
klerfaytthis keyboard layout tool in kde4 is broken12:51
klerfaytand it breaks konsole then I try to use it12:53
klerfaytgod why I keep bothering with ubuntu alphas, someone punish me ;-)12:54
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lavishHi guys, I've already asked it yesterday, but I had no reply: - I have a backup so I'm not a fool - anyway, is it possible to downgrade from 8.10 to 8.04?13:04
zniavrei made this but two days after alpha 1 was out13:06
zniavrebut right now it seems to be more complicated i think (too many downgrade)13:07
JontheEchidnaI don't think it's possible to downgrade13:08
IdleOnelavish, downgrade is not possible. you can do a fresh install of 8.04 ( good thing you have backups )13:31
lavishoky, I'll restore my backup, thanks :)13:32
IdleOnewould be nice if someone would perhaps build in a "return to last know stable point" but then again if we wanted that we could run windows13:44
elkbuntuIdleOne, that does kinda go into grub now13:46
IdleOneelkbuntu, yeah I didn't think about that13:46
IdleOneguess we do have that last stable boot13:46
elkbuntuIdleOne, although... im not sure grub is healthy at the moment. my menu.lst is not looking... normal13:47
Redhammerhello - short question does anyone else have a problem to get the DNS server to stick when using manual ipv4 settings in network manager, mine seems to go blank al the time13:47
IdleOneelkbuntu, right now I am not messing around to much. don't want to make any waves. just looking over updateds/upgrades and hoping nothing major breaks. just glad I got my /home on seperate partition13:48
jribI only run development releases virtualized13:48
elkbuntujrib, eeepc. toy. reinstallable13:49
IdleOnejrib, I did with the first 2 alpha's but it just is not the same as jumping in head first. so I move /home this way I have my backups13:50
elkbuntuhowever, last i checked, menu.lst did not start with Name: adduser/homedir-permission13:50
IdleOnetoday is friday huh :/13:51
Redhammersorry to ask again but anybody else got problems with DNS server setting being " wiped off " all the time ?13:52
IdleOneRedhammer, if they aren't answering means either they have not tried and don't know or they are not here to answer. be patient and try again later.13:55
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Redhammerhello - short question does anyone else have a problem to get the DNS server to stick when using manual ipv4 settings in network manager, mine seems to go blank al the time16:01
astra-xworkhttp://pastebin.ca/117303316:21
astra-xworkthat is my error16:21
astra-xworksame as: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=882185&goto=nextoldest16:21
astra-xworkbut i did not even change a kernel option16:21
astra-xworkapt is broken and it cannot fix itself16:22
Scorcherdoes anyonw know how to recover from the upgrade install?16:25
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ReabyWhere can i file a request for a missing feature to be added to intrepid16:59
Reabyi mean basic install should include needed ppp tools for these new mobile internet connections16:59
Redhammerhello - short question does anyone else have a problem to get the DNS server to stick when using manual ipv4 settings in network manager, mine seems to go blank al the time16:59
Reabymaybe somekind of wizard for huwai mobile internet and such like17:00
JollyGiantanyone using intrepid with an x3100?17:28
JollyGiantI can't seem to play any '3d' games except xmoto17:28
JollyGiantthe rest either crash the X server or just give a white screen17:29
Sharpiehow can i upgrade from alpha 3 to alpha 4? (doesn't show up when i run 'update-manager -d')17:53
zniavresudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade   >alpha417:53
Reabyafaik it updates normally with daily updates.17:53
Sharpieis there any way to see what version i'm using? (which alpha)17:55
JollyGiantno, not really17:55
JollyGiantthe alphas are just snapshots of development17:56
Sharpiethen i'll just assume it's as new as it's gonna get17:56
Reabydoes bsd_release -a show someting17:56
JollyGiantonly difference between them and the daily snapshots that are autogenerated is someone actually checks to see if they work17:56
johninlexhello all17:57
Sharpiewhy is there no encrypt option in nautilus? (it exists in 8.04)17:58
Some_PersonI heard a rumor that Intrepid has a new theme. Is it true?18:27
LSD|NinjaI could have It does, but it's temporary18:31
LSD|Ninjabah18:31
Some_PersonScreenshot?18:32
LSD|NinjaI don't have it handy, I trashed it at the first oppurtunity18:33
Some_PersonIs it nice?18:44
metaHi all19:11
metaIs i'm remember well that somebody said to me (here or some where in #kubuntu or #kde) that the alpha comes yesterday?19:12
bazhangyup19:12
bazhangalpha 4 to be precise meta19:13
metaand... is it released?19:13
bazhangyesh :)19:13
metabecause i apt-get upgraded my interpid install19:13
bazhangthen you are up to date19:13
Some_PersonHow unstable is intrepid at this point?19:14
bazhangassuming your mirrors have synced of course19:14
bazhangread the /topic and decide for yourself Some_Person19:14
metaand not too much changes found19:14
bazhangthe part about 'total system failure' in particular :)19:15
metahmm then i try with us mirrors19:15
Some_PersonI was hoping for details than a warning.19:15
bazhangthat is warning enough for me :)19:15
meta::)19:15
metafor example my yakuake is frozen by now19:15
bazhangthe release notes can be found19:15
metaso it hink i just reboot:)19:16
metais this the kubuntu devel channel too?19:16
bazhangoops sorry19:16
Some_PersonI'll probably get Intrepid installed at a late beta, or if there's something really bad at that point the RC19:16
metaat RC not too much, but interpid is now alpha, as bazhang said:)19:17
metaRelease candidate and alpha are two very different things:)19:17
Some_PersonI would never install an alpha19:17
bazhangI'll install at rc :)19:17
metaThen you must wait for interpid:)19:17
Some_PersonI normally do try the alphas as a live cd19:17
Some_PersonBut I don't install them19:17
bazhangin a vm sure19:17
Some_PersonI remember the Hardy RC. I was so happy when I installed it because Compiz finally worked correctly without XGL19:19
metaI remember when i bought my eee 1000h, and i had no direct rendering19:20
metaone day after a kernel and an intel xorg driver upgrade comes19:20
metaand dri comes too:)19:20
Some_PersonYou bought an eeePC?19:21
metayep.19:21
Some_PersonWhat's it like?19:21
meta?19:21
zniavresmall19:21
metayep. But i like it:)19:22
metano, i replaced my repos to the us mirror, and upgraded,, so i'll take a reboot and check how it plays:)19:23
metabrb19:23
Some_PersonWhy are the New Zealand repos faster than US for me?19:24
metare19:26
metaThe gui still not too responsive, the 3 second before the kmenu loads shows a memory bug at the place of the kmenu. Still no microphone, but now i have lan.19:28
metaSome systray app's background is messed.19:28
metaIf somebody intrested...19:28
metaAnd the alt-f2 window is a pita while loads...:/19:29
IenorandIs anybody else having troubles with wireless in Ibex-a4, are there any updates since the a4 release?19:35
askandIs the GNOME Formatter in gnome yet?20:01
awalton_laptopaskand, I don't think it is20:47
askandawalton_laptop:  Oh :( Thanks for answering20:52
marcevening everyone20:53
marccan someone assist me in finding a restricted modules package for 2.6.26-5-generic20:53
marci'm in dire need of one =)20:53
marc(one that contains the nvidia drivers at least)20:54
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dupondjeU can't set a static IP with the network manager ?21:19
dupondjethe OK button gets gray when u select Manual21:20
moh_banahi21:22
moh_banahow do i run a check on a fat32 drive?21:22
dupondjereboot doesn't work from the gui (gnome) ? :s22:18
JontheEchidnadupondje: It's a known bug. Right now you have to log out and then reboot for it to work22:22
JontheEchidna...with Gnome, anyway. ;-)22:22
dupondje:p22:22
dupondjeI just use the console for now :P22:22
dupondjeand the Network manager is totally fucked also it seems :s22:22
JontheEchidnaya, there have been some issues with the new nm 0.7 for some it seems22:23
JontheEchidnanot so bad if you have a wired connection though, heh22:23
dupondjeI have wired :p22:23
dupondjecan't set static ip22:23
JontheEchidnaNot so bad if you use DCHP. :P22:24
dupondjejust want static :D22:24
ryancrtrying to install alpha4 on virtual box 1.6.4, get kernel panic, is this an virutalbox problem or an ubuntu problem?22:26
dupondjepanic with what error ? :)22:26
dupondjeits prolly ubuntu problem22:27
dupondjeits ALPHA ...22:27
dupondje:p22:27
ryancrhmm seems to be: from the forums: I get "Kernel Panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!"22:27
dupondjeryancr: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/linux/+bug/24606722:32
ubottuLaunchpad bug 246067 in linux "Kernel panic during boot in VirtualBox with kernel 2.6.26.*-generic" [High,Confirmed]22:32
ryancrdupondje: thanks22:32
askandI recently tried alpha 4 live cd and I did not see a private directory or a guestaccount in the fastuserswitcher, do you have to install to see this?22:34
mvoaskand: it is only available via the "fast-user-switch" applet AFAIK23:00
askandmvo: yes but it wasnt :(23:00
mvoaskand: hm, do you have the gdm-guest-session package installed?23:01
askandmvo: no only tried from the livecd as I said :)23:02
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