[00:06] any id why it doesn't boot anymore, using dmraid with raid0 [00:06] upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10 [00:06] can't find root fs [00:06] the mapper dmraid's aren't created anymore it seems [00:17] its quite silent here :D [00:26] Sometimes, yes. [00:28] mmm solved :P [00:30] How is jfs and xfs going for file system performance these days? [00:31] ext3 has got a lot faster; I don't know about those. [00:31] Has ext4 made any progress? [00:32] ZFS sounds nice [01:07] ext3 is fastest with cowdancer [01:11] Is there a way to use the nv driver with Intrepid 4? [01:11] Or am I stuck at 800x600? :) [01:11] any id how I can check content of initramfs ? [01:12] dupondje, check /boot. [01:12] how can I unpack it ? :) [01:13] it's just a gzipped cpio archive I think. [01:14] dupondje, gunzip initrd.gz | cpio -imdF i think [01:14] or -idv [01:14] to recreate run find . -print -depth | cpio -ov | gzip >initrd [01:15] How do I discover what driver my X is using? [01:15] ~/.xsession-errors is looking pretty ufamiliar. [01:15] bronson, look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log [01:16] dmoerner, ah, cool. That looks familiar [01:16] worked :D [01:16] Looks like VESA. [01:17] Guess I'll try to force it to use nv...? [01:22] somebody with 8.04 here ? [01:23] dupondje, i have 8.04 [01:23] just found out I can fix it another way [01:23] tracking some bug :x [01:31] whoei :P [01:31] fixxed bug [01:33] hello [01:33] hello [01:34] what forum is this im really new [01:35] it's not a forum, it's an irc channel, based on random ubuntu chatter [01:35] jake_: type "/topic" for more info [01:35] cool cool thanks [01:38] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dmraid/+bug/247027 [01:38] fixxed :D [01:38] Launchpad bug 247027 in dmraid "initramfs prompts because of dmraid" [Undecided,Fix committed] [01:43] ^x [01:43] jake_: what's up ? === jake_ is now known as hoody [02:18] Wait, Intrepid's Compiz still can't resize windows on the fly? [02:18] "on the fly"? [02:18] you mean without the rectangle? [02:18] crdlb, exactly. [02:19] that's a deviation by ubuntu from the compiz defaults [02:19] (and a very good one) [02:19] why is it a good one? [02:19] it makes me feel like I'm using a Mac SE. [02:19] because resizing with a compositing manager is slow and will be for a while [02:20] and on top of that, gtk+ already sucks at resizing (mainly because of its overuse of subwindows) [02:20] Huh. [02:20] then change the resize mode to Normal and suffer the slowness :) [02:20] Owell, guess I'll run intrepid without the desktop effects too. [02:21] fantastic [02:22] it might even be ok with your driver, but that would definitely be an exception [02:22] I've heard it's very good with the open source R500 driver [02:22] KDE4 is bit by the same problem with the nvidia drivers in particular [02:22] crdlb, how do I change the resize mode? [02:23] ccsm > Resize Windows > Resize Mode [02:26] Oh crap. Don't set wobbly windows friction to 0.1. [02:26] * bronson is going to have fun going through ccsm... [02:29] crdlb, right on. that worked great. Thanks! [02:30] I'm using a GeForce 7100 -- doesn't appear to be any slowdown at all. [02:32] cool, I think the geforce 8 and 9 cards are a lot worse though [02:32] (ie the nvidia driver has really poor 2d acceleration with those models) [02:32] that makes sense. [02:39] Hm. When compiz is running, the Gnome keyboard shortcuts don't work. [02:46] Ah. You can set keybindings in ccsm. [02:51] In intrepid does the desktop installer do encrypted partitions or still only the alternate installer? [02:53] ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh [02:53] yup, the upgradew breaks [02:53] lol [02:56] you were expecting something else? [03:01] Ziroday: Still only alternate, IIRC. [03:06] RAOF: darn, okay thanks a lot === catweazle_ is now known as catweazle [03:33] what's the equivalent for kcontrol in intrepid? [03:35] system settings? [05:23] Is conky working ok in Ibex? [05:26] getting random untitled windows...is this a bug? [05:26] Fredd: Yes. [05:26] which package? [05:26] or core? [05:27] Probably a xulrunner bug. [05:41] oh and how come when i have like 6 windows of the same app they are not grouped in the gnome-panel...should a file a gnome request or is this customizable? [05:55] How do I make a shortcut in terminal? [05:55] e.g. my home folder to my desktop? [07:09] Finnish, ln -s ~ ~/Desktop [07:10] Thanks! [07:57] ROAF: the problem seems to be related to compiz [07:57] i cant close that untitled window and compiz is disabled for some reason [07:58] hrm, kde-systemsettings depends on kde-control, but it is not available.... is there any other way to change the kde themes, etc? [07:59] sorry, it depends on kcontrol , not kde-control [07:59] wait, nevermind, I believe package systemsettings does the trick :/ [09:19] can't set a static IP ? :s [09:29] anyone here running ibex? [09:38] yes, amd64 ibex [09:48] Hey all, anyone here know if this newer version of X.org is likely to resolve an issue I'm having displaying at 1920x1080P on a Samsung LCD HDTV? [09:49] the machine we're using to display at that res is currently running Ubuntu 8.04 with Mythbuntu added on [09:50] something happened in the past few weeks to cause that functionality to break [09:50] likely an "update" [09:51] i will upgrade to ibex tonight] [09:52] hey siimo, what do you think? [09:53] is it worth upgrading the machine to Ibex in order to see if it will resolve my X.org issue? [09:53] Belboz99: you could try with the livecd [09:53] alpha4 was released yesterday [09:53] Unksi: yeah, I suppose that's worth a shot [09:54] try it also with the drivers (nvidia etc) to see how it works with them [09:54] k [09:55] I'm using Ibex in a VM right now, just getting a feel for it [09:55] because they may give better funtionality [09:55] yeah [09:55] It [09:55] 's a radeon 7000 GPU [09:55] it worked perfectly fine OTOB for months until that silly update :/ [09:56] :/ [09:56] er, Out of the box, OOTB? [09:56] i guess thats not even supported by fglrx [09:56] nope :( [09:56] so it should work without installing any drivers [09:56] should, that's how it worked before [09:56] if it works that is [09:57] hell, it worked off the live CD at first, now I downloaded an updated version of the CD and that doesn't work in live mode either [09:57] ive had serious performance issues with radeon 9200, i just switched to another low end card from nvidia [09:57] yeah, all we're using it for is putting up a slideshow at work [09:58] we've got a big-honkin' 50" screen that we bought to give photo classes with (we're a camera store) [09:58] so, I've been putting up a lot of my best photos in a slideshow format to show people what they expect with one of our DSLR's [09:59] 50".. that sounds real nice :) [10:02] yeah, it is :) [10:02] so, is there a list of the biggest improvements expected for Ibex somewhere? [10:03] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid [10:03] theres one [10:07] thanks [10:07] I'm just wondering, what's the biggest changes I'll either see or "feel", a lot of that stuff looks nice and all, but how will affect the end user? [10:08] We've got a few machines running 8.04 at work, and a lot of my co-workers are having a hard time dealing with the UI primarily [10:09] stuff like if you right click in the whitespace of a nautilus window it doesn't allow you to create a new folder, not unless the whitespace is below the list of items, which only happens on short lists [10:11] also, it seems to be a lot harder than it should be to make windows shares that are both accessible and writable by other windows users [10:11] it took me quite some time to get all the samba shares set up right, and even then, there's still one machine that's never been properly configured [10:31] X.Org version: 1.4.99.906 is in fact x.org 1.5? [11:03] is there a way to install firefox without gnome dependencies on intrepid? [11:04] kubuntu of course === lavish is now known as lavish_ === lavish_ is now known as lavish [11:28] ulaas: you can try this new qt firefox [11:29] but i dont think there are already debs in repo ... [12:46] I'm so sad :-( how do I go back in bash history now? (konsole) [12:47] klerfayt: Press 'up' to recall the previous command, or you can press Ctrl-R (from an empty prompt) for a search-as-you-type function. Ctrl-R/Ctrl-N to cycle through the matches [12:47] ccooke: it doesn't work, that's why I'm asking [12:48] I'll try relogging to kde [12:48] ah. [12:49] works now... [12:51] this keyboard layout tool in kde4 is broken [12:53] and it breaks konsole then I try to use it [12:54] god why I keep bothering with ubuntu alphas, someone punish me ;-) === slavecoder250 is now known as popski === popski is now known as slavecoder250 [13:04] Hi guys, I've already asked it yesterday, but I had no reply: - I have a backup so I'm not a fool - anyway, is it possible to downgrade from 8.10 to 8.04? [13:06] i made this but two days after alpha 1 was out [13:07] but right now it seems to be more complicated i think (too many downgrade) [13:08] I don't think it's possible to downgrade [13:31] lavish, downgrade is not possible. you can do a fresh install of 8.04 ( good thing you have backups ) [13:32] oky, I'll restore my backup, thanks :) [13:44] would be nice if someone would perhaps build in a "return to last know stable point" but then again if we wanted that we could run windows [13:46] IdleOne, that does kinda go into grub now [13:46] elkbuntu, yeah I didn't think about that [13:46] guess we do have that last stable boot [13:47] IdleOne, although... im not sure grub is healthy at the moment. my menu.lst is not looking... normal [13:47] hello - short question does anyone else have a problem to get the DNS server to stick when using manual ipv4 settings in network manager, mine seems to go blank al the time [13:48] elkbuntu, right now I am not messing around to much. don't want to make any waves. just looking over updateds/upgrades and hoping nothing major breaks. just glad I got my /home on seperate partition [13:48] I only run development releases virtualized [13:49] jrib, eeepc. toy. reinstallable [13:50] jrib, I did with the first 2 alpha's but it just is not the same as jumping in head first. so I move /home this way I have my backups [13:50] however, last i checked, menu.lst did not start with Name: adduser/homedir-permission [13:51] today is friday huh :/ [13:52] sorry to ask again but anybody else got problems with DNS server setting being " wiped off " all the time ? [13:55] Redhammer, if they aren't answering means either they have not tried and don't know or they are not here to answer. be patient and try again later. === jtechidna is now known as JontheEchidna [16:01] hello - short question does anyone else have a problem to get the DNS server to stick when using manual ipv4 settings in network manager, mine seems to go blank al the time [16:21] http://pastebin.ca/1173033 [16:21] that is my error [16:21] same as: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=882185&goto=nextoldest [16:21] but i did not even change a kernel option [16:22] apt is broken and it cannot fix itself [16:25] does anyonw know how to recover from the upgrade install? === catweazle_ is now known as catweazle [16:59] Where can i file a request for a missing feature to be added to intrepid [16:59] i mean basic install should include needed ppp tools for these new mobile internet connections [16:59] hello - short question does anyone else have a problem to get the DNS server to stick when using manual ipv4 settings in network manager, mine seems to go blank al the time [17:00] maybe somekind of wizard for huwai mobile internet and such like [17:28] anyone using intrepid with an x3100? [17:28] I can't seem to play any '3d' games except xmoto [17:29] the rest either crash the X server or just give a white screen [17:53] how can i upgrade from alpha 3 to alpha 4? (doesn't show up when i run 'update-manager -d') [17:53] sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade >alpha4 [17:53] afaik it updates normally with daily updates. [17:55] is there any way to see what version i'm using? (which alpha) [17:55] no, not really [17:56] the alphas are just snapshots of development [17:56] then i'll just assume it's as new as it's gonna get [17:56] does bsd_release -a show someting [17:56] only difference between them and the daily snapshots that are autogenerated is someone actually checks to see if they work [17:57] hello all [17:58] why is there no encrypt option in nautilus? (it exists in 8.04) [18:27] I heard a rumor that Intrepid has a new theme. Is it true? [18:31] I could have It does, but it's temporary [18:31] bah [18:32] Screenshot? [18:33] I don't have it handy, I trashed it at the first oppurtunity [18:44] Is it nice? [19:11] Hi all [19:12] Is i'm remember well that somebody said to me (here or some where in #kubuntu or #kde) that the alpha comes yesterday? [19:12] yup [19:13] alpha 4 to be precise meta [19:13] and... is it released? [19:13] yesh :) [19:13] because i apt-get upgraded my interpid install [19:13] then you are up to date [19:14] How unstable is intrepid at this point? [19:14] assuming your mirrors have synced of course [19:14] read the /topic and decide for yourself Some_Person [19:14] and not too much changes found [19:15] the part about 'total system failure' in particular :) [19:15] hmm then i try with us mirrors [19:15] I was hoping for details than a warning. [19:15] that is warning enough for me :) [19:15] ::) [19:15] for example my yakuake is frozen by now [19:15] the release notes can be found [19:16] so it hink i just reboot:) [19:16] is this the kubuntu devel channel too? [19:16] oops sorry [19:16] I'll probably get Intrepid installed at a late beta, or if there's something really bad at that point the RC [19:17] at RC not too much, but interpid is now alpha, as bazhang said:) [19:17] Release candidate and alpha are two very different things:) [19:17] I would never install an alpha [19:17] I'll install at rc :) [19:17] Then you must wait for interpid:) [19:17] I normally do try the alphas as a live cd [19:17] But I don't install them [19:17] in a vm sure [19:19] I remember the Hardy RC. I was so happy when I installed it because Compiz finally worked correctly without XGL [19:20] I remember when i bought my eee 1000h, and i had no direct rendering [19:20] one day after a kernel and an intel xorg driver upgrade comes [19:20] and dri comes too:) [19:21] You bought an eeePC? [19:21] yep. [19:21] What's it like? [19:21] ? [19:21] small [19:22] yep. But i like it:) [19:23] no, i replaced my repos to the us mirror, and upgraded,, so i'll take a reboot and check how it plays:) [19:23] brb [19:24] Why are the New Zealand repos faster than US for me? [19:26] re [19:28] The gui still not too responsive, the 3 second before the kmenu loads shows a memory bug at the place of the kmenu. Still no microphone, but now i have lan. [19:28] Some systray app's background is messed. [19:28] If somebody intrested... [19:29] And the alt-f2 window is a pita while loads...:/ [19:35] Is anybody else having troubles with wireless in Ibex-a4, are there any updates since the a4 release? [20:01] Is the GNOME Formatter in gnome yet? [20:47] askand, I don't think it is [20:52] awalton_laptop: Oh :( Thanks for answering [20:53] evening everyone [20:53] can someone assist me in finding a restricted modules package for 2.6.26-5-generic [20:53] i'm in dire need of one =) [20:54] (one that contains the nvidia drivers at least) === Seeker`_ is now known as Seeker` [21:19] U can't set a static IP with the network manager ? [21:20] the OK button gets gray when u select Manual [21:22] hi [21:22] how do i run a check on a fat32 drive? [22:18] reboot doesn't work from the gui (gnome) ? :s [22:22] dupondje: It's a known bug. Right now you have to log out and then reboot for it to work [22:22] ...with Gnome, anyway. ;-) [22:22] :p [22:22] I just use the console for now :P [22:22] and the Network manager is totally fucked also it seems :s [22:23] ya, there have been some issues with the new nm 0.7 for some it seems [22:23] not so bad if you have a wired connection though, heh [22:23] I have wired :p [22:23] can't set static ip [22:24] Not so bad if you use DCHP. :P [22:24] just want static :D [22:26] trying to install alpha4 on virtual box 1.6.4, get kernel panic, is this an virutalbox problem or an ubuntu problem? [22:26] panic with what error ? :) [22:27] its prolly ubuntu problem [22:27] its ALPHA ... [22:27] :p [22:27] hmm seems to be: from the forums: I get "Kernel Panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!" [22:32] ryancr: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/linux/+bug/246067 [22:32] Launchpad bug 246067 in linux "Kernel panic during boot in VirtualBox with kernel 2.6.26.*-generic" [High,Confirmed] [22:32] dupondje: thanks [22:34] I recently tried alpha 4 live cd and I did not see a private directory or a guestaccount in the fastuserswitcher, do you have to install to see this? [23:00] askand: it is only available via the "fast-user-switch" applet AFAIK [23:00] mvo: yes but it wasnt :( [23:01] askand: hm, do you have the gdm-guest-session package installed? [23:02] mvo: no only tried from the livecd as I said :) === crd1b is now known as crdlb