[19:37]  * _MMA_ knows what thorwils voice sounds like. :P
[19:41]  * _MMA_ didn't know thorwil could code and thinks the Scrollbar Concept was really cool.
[19:41] <thorwil> heh
[19:42] <_MMA_> That's really a killer idea. I hope you submitted that to the GNOME/GTK guys.
[19:42] <thorwil> _MMA_: you now know what my voice sounds like when imitating an american, using a dirt cheap mic and after compression and way too heavy eq :)
[19:43] <thorwil> _MMA_: everyone who wants to knows about it, kinda
[19:43] <thorwil> i did hit the gtk list
[19:43] <_MMA_> Nice. How was the reception?
[19:44] <thorwil> _MMA_: interest from like 2 persons. no one to implement it
[19:45] <_MMA_> Would it have to be written in C?
[19:45] <thorwil> yes. one coder mentioned that this would benefit from some abstraction in place that gtk doesn't have
[19:47] <thorwil> i still need to adress the most valid concern of the lack of page up/down. the one happening if you click on the trough of a normal scrollbar
[19:47] <_MMA_> Hmm... I know a C guy. Well, he's in here. luisbg. He's *really* busy but maybe it would be easy for him to give it a look. http://thorwil.wordpress.com/2008/05/09/popup-scrollbar-concept-demo/
[19:49] <thorwil> _MMA_: well, thanks
[19:49] <thorwil> say, are you going through my blog, or did you stumble over it elsewhere?
[19:51] <_MMA_> Well, I've known about it from your Ardour work. I look from time to time. I was reminded to look after you posted about the scrollbars on the artwork list.
[19:51] <_MMA_> Studio concept I'm tinkering with for Intrepid. http://mma.users.ubuntustudio.org/studio_wall_comb_concept.png
[19:52] <thorwil> small patterns can have a great effect for "detaching" windows from the ground
[19:53] <thorwil> speakers are nice, but this arrangement could be called introverted ;)
[19:53] <_MMA_> Im thinking about making the background transparent so uses could set a color.
[19:54] <_MMA_> "introverted"? In what way?
[19:54] <thorwil> the big honeycombs and logo are a bit on the too-much side
[19:54] <thorwil> _MMA_: sits in the corner and faces inwards
[19:55] <thorwil> the ubuntu studio line looks twisted. is that an illusion?
[19:55] <_MMA_> Ahh... Its actually smaller now as I have a revision after that render.
[19:56] <_MMA_> thorwil: I did play with the perspective on the logo. Found some new things in Inkscape. :)
[19:57] <thorwil> _MMA_: i'd try one or 2 speakers rotated to the wallpaper inside
[19:57] <thorwil> i mean, looking to the top left. towards center could be too stiff
[19:58] <_MMA_> The speakers are actually from a very old one from Studio's beginnings. Part of using them is a homage to that. (there are actually 3 there)
[19:59] <thorwil> if you want to keep that trio, you should move it out of the corner
[20:12] <_MMA_> thorwil: Actually, I was mistaken. The chat is on ubuntu-devel-discuss ML. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-discuss/2008-August/005165.html
[20:12] <thorwil> yeah, i just noticed few minutes ago :)
[20:14] <thorwil> with 2 lists in CC. being such a loudmouth tends to backfire. still nice to have fans :)
[20:15] <_MMA_> hehe :)