[00:19] <mnk0> hey sup
[00:19] <mnk0> anyone live?
[00:19] <tgm4883_laptop> !hi
[00:19] <Zinn> Thanks for being polite.  But we are so dang awesome at solving problems that we wish you would just ask your question.  Thanks.
[00:20] <tgm4883_laptop> actually
[00:20] <tgm4883_laptop> that was more of a
[00:20] <tgm4883_laptop> !ask
[00:20] <Zinn> Please don't ask if anyone is around or if it is alright to ask a question.  Many people check back periodically and may answer your question when they see it.  IRC is not normally an instant fix so check back often for an answer.
[00:20] <tgm4883_laptop> my bad
[00:20] <mnk0> ok, im tryin to get my card convifured.. ati card not showing any output on my svideo out to ttv
[00:21] <mnk0> just running aticonfig --initial
[00:21] <mnk0> now
[00:25] <mnk0> when i run it . .it doesnt give me any results, and just goes to a blank cursor
[00:26] <tgm4883_laptop> hmm
[00:26] <tgm4883_laptop> unfortunatly i'm not that familiar with ati hardware
[00:26] <mnk0> ah k
[00:27] <mnk0> 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV100 QY [Radeon 7000/VE]
[00:33] <mnk0> ok ive bypassed that issue by forcing the aticonfig
[02:28] <tgm4883_laptop> Ryan?
[02:28] <pisani> Thomas?
[02:28] <tgm4883_laptop> heh
[02:28] <tgm4883_laptop> yea,
[02:29] <tgm4883_laptop> I just fired off another email to you
[02:29] <pisani> ah right on. figured i'd hop in and see if that made sense about gpl stuff.
[02:29] <tgm4883_laptop> yea, if possible a COPYRIGHT file in the tarball would be better
[02:29] <tgm4883_laptop> in order to get it in the repos, i'd have to add one anyway
[02:30] <tgm4883_laptop> thats one of the only reasons to EVER change the .orig.tar.gz
[02:30] <pisani> Not a problem. I can patch that up tonight and publish it.
[02:30] <tgm4883_laptop> sweet.  I'll start getting some code together to package it.  I'll probably have to add a GUI frontend or make it accessible from MCC
[02:31] <tgm4883_laptop> if I make a frontend i'll shoot it back to you
[02:31] <pisani> sweet.
[02:31] <tgm4883_laptop> it will be python though, as superm1 cracks a hard whip around here
[02:32] <pisani> not a problem... but we may definitely include the frontend in the next release of mythdora then.
[02:32] <pisani> Question for you. Is mythubuntu an official ubuntu off-shoot? I mean are you guys funded from the same family then?
[02:33] <tgm4883_laptop> not funded.  But IIRC we are a blessed spin off
[02:33] <tgm4883_laptop> superm1 would be the man to ask that.  He's the project lead
[02:33] <tgm4883_laptop> err, dictator
[02:33] <pisani> Cool. Just curious.  I know ubuntu has such strength because of the model that it's in
[02:34] <pisani> We're hoping to have a new MD version out in the next month or 2.
[02:34] <tgm4883_laptop> sweet
[02:34] <tgm4883_laptop> sec
[02:35] <pisani> New installer. Moved some things around. Trying to make it not so janky...
[02:35] <tgm4883_laptop> pisani, if your interested,  We just added this piece of software for troubleshooting.  It grabs various logs and uploads them to pastebin.com and presents the user with a link
[02:35] <tgm4883_laptop> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~mythbuntu/mythbuntu/mythbuntu-log-grabber
[02:36] <tgm4883_laptop> you might already have something like that though
[02:36] <pisani> we don't... we've tossed the idea around for something similiar
[02:37] <tgm4883_laptop> I think it needs a small tweak for V2, but IMHO it's ok
[02:37] <tgm4883_laptop> its accessible from the frontend which is kinda nice
[02:38] <pisani> That is nice. We've got a few add-ons in the frontend.. and the next version will have some more.
[02:38] <tgm4883_laptop> anyway i'm going to go grab some food (i'm starving ;) ) but IIRC all of our code is GPL.  Was there anything else I could help you with?
[02:38] <pisani> As for uploading logs.. we don't do that type of things cause there is really only 2 of providing the support for the masses.
[02:38] <tgm4883_laptop> ah
[02:39] <pisani> Catch you later. I'll drop you a line when i publish the new tar file.
[02:39] <tgm4883_laptop> awesome, thanks
[02:46] <superm1> i've been summoned?
[02:48] <superm1> tgm4883_laptop, pisani ?
[03:28] <Freshy> evening
[03:28] <Shadow__X> evening
[03:29] <Freshy> can i use fta satellite cards with mythubuntu?
[03:30] <Shadow__X> maybe
[03:30] <Shadow__X> linuxtv.org wiki should know for certain
[03:43] <Freshy> Shadow__X what video card do you use?
[03:43] <Shadow__X> geforce 6150
[03:43] <Shadow__X> why
[03:44] <Freshy> i want to make an affordable pvr.. but if i could add satellite that would be really cool
[03:44] <Shadow__X> ah
[03:44] <Shadow__X> well technically speaking you can add sat
[03:44] <Shadow__X> you just might have issues getting channel changes and all the like working
[03:45] <Freshy> you can have a cable in card.. and a sat in card.. or you would just use multiple video/audio in cards
[03:45] <Freshy> if i have both cable and satellite
[03:45] <Shadow__X> you can have as many tuners as you can fit
[03:45] <Freshy> cool
[03:46] <Freshy> i have been looking at software: mytheatre
[03:48] <Freshy> i may try mythubuntu this weekend.. thanks for the help
[04:30] <f4hy> Hey everyone. I need to trouble shoot some problems. I just installed off the CD. My tv signal looks terrible, it is low quality and flickers. Also i am having an issue when playing a video file it says "loading" then hangs
[04:30] <f4hy> Playing a video file directly with `vlc video.avi` worked just fine
[04:32] <f4hy> I am using the lastest x86 mythbuntu, a older winfast card, and an ATI video card (with the binary blob drivers installed.)
[04:32] <f4hy> Any help diagnosing the problem or pointers to where to look for these problems would be appreciated.
[04:36] <Shadow__X> does mplayer play the file
[04:38] <jeeves__> are there people in here tonight?
[04:38] <tgm4883_laptop> !ask
[04:38] <Zinn> Please don't ask if anyone is around or if it is alright to ask a question.  Many people check back periodically and may answer your question when they see it.  IRC is not normally an instant fix so check back often for an answer.
[04:39] <f4hy> Shadow__X, running it from mplayer `pathtofile` looks like it starts to run, shows a running time at the command line, but nothing on the screen
[04:39] <jeeves__> I'm trying to build a MythTV back end server.  I'm looking for the best sudgestions for cards.
[04:40] <hads> I'd go for a DVB-S card myself but that really depends on where you are and what you can receive :)
[04:40] <Shadow__X> f4hy, is this mythbuntu
[04:40] <Shadow__X> and getting ati to work is a pain in the ass
[04:40] <jeeves__> hads, I'm looking to pick up the 110
[04:40] <foxbuntu> jeeves__, the WinTV-PVR cards are pretty good
[04:40] <f4hy> Shadow__X, it is running a clean install of mythbuntu
[04:41] <Shadow__X> ati again is a pain in the ass working
[04:41] <hads> I have no idea what the 110 is.
[04:41] <Shadow__X> esp the new driver
[04:41] <f4hy> Shadow__X, it does not seem to be an ATI issue
[04:41] <Shadow__X> using vlc tries to use xv then uses x11
[04:41] <jeeves__> foxbuntu, I've been looking @ the Haupanhage and Twinhan cards, but I want to be able to do something with them, so I need to make sure that I can add/change things on the cards, and I don't want to put out a lot of $$ for something that I can't use
[04:41] <f4hy> Shadow__X, the driver is installed and the screen works fine, TV output shows stuff, although staticy, does not indicate a video drive issue to me
[04:41] <Shadow__X> if it doesnt play by itself in mplayer than xv pro isnt working
[04:42] <foxbuntu> jeeves__, what do you mean change things on the cards?
[04:42] <f4hy> Shadow__X, alright so what is xv then? is there an argument for mplayer to use x11 then?
[04:42] <jeeves__> foxbuntu, what do you think I mean.  I know it's a taboo subject here
[04:43] <tgm4883_laptop> jeeves__, are you talking about sasc ng?
[04:43] <foxbuntu> jeeves__, yeah, well just checking, that pretty much means no support
[04:43] <jeeves__> tgm4883_laptop, sasc ng?
[04:43] <rhpot1991> sasc-ng
[04:43] <Zinn> rhpot1991: sasc-ng is a method to ILLEGALLY receive cable or satellite broadcasts via a fake software dvb-s/c device.  It is forbidden from being discussed in #ubuntu-mythtv, #ubuntu-mythtv-dev, #mythtv-users, and #mythtv.  If you would like to learn more about it, please refer to it's developers and keep any and all discussions about it there.
[04:44] <tgm4883_laptop> AFAIK, changing things on cards isn't something that is banned
[04:44] <tgm4883_laptop> but sasc-ng is
[04:44] <Zinn> tgm4883_laptop: sasc-ng is a method to ILLEGALLY receive cable or satellite broadcasts via a fake software dvb-s/c device.  It is forbidden from being discussed in #ubuntu-mythtv, #ubuntu-mythtv-dev, #mythtv-users, and #mythtv.  If you would like to learn more about it, please refer to it's developers and keep any and all discussions about it there.
[04:45] <f4hy> Shadow__X, so is xv not working a driver issue then?
[04:45] <tgm4883_laptop> in fact.  sasc-ng is so bad, that we have told Zinn to tell the person that said sasc-ng that it is banned whenever someone says sasc-ng
[04:45] <Zinn> tgm4883_laptop: sasc-ng is a method to ILLEGALLY receive cable or satellite broadcasts via a fake software dvb-s/c device.  It is forbidden from being discussed in #ubuntu-mythtv, #ubuntu-mythtv-dev, #mythtv-users, and #mythtv.  If you would like to learn more about it, please refer to it's developers and keep any and all discussions about it there.
[04:45] <Shadow__X> f4hy, its an ati problem
[04:46] <f4hy> Shadow__X, ok thanks, you have been helpful
[04:46] <tgm4883_laptop> However, if you are not talking about sasc-ng, then it is ok
[04:46] <Zinn> tgm4883_laptop: sasc-ng is a method to ILLEGALLY receive cable or satellite broadcasts via a fake software dvb-s/c device.  It is forbidden from being discussed in #ubuntu-mythtv, #ubuntu-mythtv-dev, #mythtv-users, and #mythtv.  If you would like to learn more about it, please refer to it's developers and keep any and all discussions about it there.
[04:46] <f4hy> Shadow__X, so if I revert back to the OS drivers should that fix it?
[04:46] <Shadow__X> lol
[04:46] <Shadow__X> nope
[04:46] <Shadow__X> but it will work using the cpu to do everything
[04:46] <Shadow__X> what card are you using
[04:47] <f4hy> Shadow__X, an old shitty winfast card
[04:47] <Shadow__X> ati card
[04:48] <f4hy> Shadow__X, so if TV does not work, I blame that, but video files didnt work so i was concerned
[04:49] <f4hy> Shadow__X, oh, 9600XT
[04:49] <Shadow__X> hmm
[04:49] <Shadow__X> to be honest nvidia is the easiest to setup
[04:49] <f4hy> I understand that, on this computer here I have an nvidia card
[04:50] <f4hy> but in the box running myth it is ati
[04:50] <f4hy> mythbuntu can not only support nvidia.
[04:52] <Shadow__X> no it doesnt
[04:52] <Shadow__X> but for best results
[04:52] <Shadow__X> do mplayer file -vo x11
[04:52] <Shadow__X> that should work good
[04:53] <f4hy> alright great thanks ill give that a shot
[04:53] <Shadow__X> mhmh
[04:56] <f4hy> Shadow__X, didn't make a difference
[04:56] <Shadow__X> how do you know the recording doesnt suck
[04:57] <f4hy> Shadow__X, no the file is copied over onto the samba share, I am not trying to do anything from a TV
[04:57] <Shadow__X> hmm
[04:57] <f4hy> Shadow__X, I just cant get regular video playback
[04:57] <Shadow__X> so vlc plays it no issue
[04:57] <Shadow__X> ?
[04:57] <f4hy> Shadow__X, the files play with vlc 'filename'
[04:57] <f4hy> yes
[04:57] <f4hy> but mplayer from the command line does not work
[04:57] <Shadow__X> what does it do
[04:58] <f4hy> it acts like it is playing, gives a progress bar on the command line
[04:58] <Shadow__X> hmm
[04:58] <Shadow__X> does it play using totem
[04:58] <f4hy> like the correct out put you would get if it worked, just no video
[04:59] <Shadow__X> did you do the command the way i said
[04:59] <f4hy> yes with the -vo -x11
[04:59] <f4hy> the machine is running in the other room, I suppose I should set it so I can VNC to it so I may trouble shoot without leaving the room
[04:59] <Shadow__X> try -vo x11
[05:00] <f4hy> alright ill go try that
[05:08] <f4hy> Shadow__X, that works
[05:08] <f4hy> -vo x11
[05:08] <f4hy> thats displayed it
[05:10] <f4hy> so for video file play back I can just edit the command mythbutu uses and tack on -vo x11 right?
[05:11] <Shadow__X> well in mythtv you can tell it to use x11
[05:11] <Shadow__X> what cpu do you have
[05:11] <Shadow__X> and does your tv tuner have a mpeg encoder
[05:11] <f4hy> AMD 2600+
[05:11] <f4hy> the tuner does not have an encoder I dont think
[05:11] <Shadow__X> heh
[05:12] <Shadow__X> to be honest if you use it that way
[05:12] <Shadow__X> your comp is going to be taxed just watching tv
[05:12] <Shadow__X> the tuner is going to use cpu
[05:12] <Shadow__X> and so is actually watching something
[05:12] <Shadow__X> but if you want to try it go ahead
[05:12] <Shadow__X> its on the front end setup
[05:12] <f4hy> thats fine, its not like that box will be doing anything else
[05:12] <Shadow__X> by taxed i mean it might not beable to keep up
[05:13] <Shadow__X> and that would be fixed by just using an nvidia card
[05:13] <f4hy> or getting the ATI card to work
[05:13] <Shadow__X> again
[05:13] <Shadow__X> as i said earlier
[05:13] <Shadow__X> thats a ati driver issue
[05:13] <Shadow__X> lol
[05:14] <Shadow__X> just dont listen to me and put on your dunce cap
[05:14] <f4hy> well, i have wrestled with ATI drivers in the past
[05:14] <Shadow__X> i have an ati card
[05:14] <Shadow__X> i am using the new drivers
[05:14] <Shadow__X> there is a bug in them
[05:14] <Shadow__X> unless your a ati dev than you can fix it
[05:14] <Shadow__X> using x11 is bypassing the issue by using your cpu
[05:14] <f4hy> well 2 years ago I used ATI for everything
[05:14] <Shadow__X> not a good solution
[05:14] <Shadow__X> things have changed
[05:14] <f4hy> right, I dont want to do the x11 bypassing if i dont have to
[05:15] <f4hy> well I can just use the drivers from 2 years ago then, why not?
[05:15] <Shadow__X> well unless you find something else
[05:15] <Shadow__X> you have to
[05:15] <Shadow__X> i dont know whta they supported
[05:15] <f4hy> not if I have a copy of those older drivers
[05:15] <Shadow__X> i have xv working on my card
[05:15] <Shadow__X> its a x1400 but
[05:15] <Shadow__X> i get screen corruption in mythtv and in wine
[05:15] <Shadow__X> :D
[05:15] <Shadow__X> thanks ati
[05:16] <f4hy> well i ran things just fine on that card 2 years ago, I am just resurecting that machine to become a media box
[05:16] <f4hy> but the card in there was able to do beryl and such, which needs composite
[05:16] <Shadow__X> did you ever watch videos
[05:16] <f4hy> ya, it could do anything
[05:16] <Shadow__X> that used xgl
[05:16] <Shadow__X> thats different
[05:17] <f4hy> it was able to watch DVDs etc
[05:17] <Shadow__X> i used to do beryl as well
[05:17] <Shadow__X> again
[05:17] <Shadow__X> xgl
[05:17] <f4hy> how are videos different?
[05:17] <f4hy> which also played fine on it...
[05:17] <f4hy> what is this xv?
[05:17] <Shadow__X> xgl is diff then aiglx
[05:17] <f4hy> oh so it needs aiglx
[05:18] <f4hy> yes that has always been a problem with the ATI drivers
[05:18] <f4hy> myth requires aiglx??
[05:19] <Shadow__X> myth requires a cpu and a vid card
[05:20] <Shadow__X> linux requires somewhat decent drivers
[05:20] <Shadow__X> which is your issue
[05:20] <f4hy> well you just explained how video playback and everything should be fine with GLX so then why is ati drivers a problem
[05:20] <Shadow__X> no
[05:20] <Shadow__X> i said you had beryl and all that working on xgl
[05:20] <Shadow__X> i used to do that as well
[05:21] <Shadow__X> the new ati drivers support aiglx
[05:21] <f4hy> well i was able to play videos
[05:21] <Shadow__X> and compiz fusion
[05:21] <Shadow__X> but there are bugs in them
[05:21] <Shadow__X> and it doesnt support older hardware well
[05:21] <f4hy> well why not just disable AIGLX?
[05:21] <Shadow__X> or just the open source drivers
[05:21] <Shadow__X> or buy nvidia
[05:21] <Shadow__X> to be honest spending 30 bucks would take all your issues away in 4 minutes
[05:22] <f4hy> well if i were to use 2 year old closed source drivers, when I did not have those issues and was able to play video just fine...
[05:22] <f4hy> well I am not going to spend $30
[05:22] <Shadow__X> then have fun
[05:22] <Shadow__X> let me know if you find a suitable solution other than using x11
[05:23] <f4hy> I will, I just wanted to know exactly what the issue is. What is the issue with the ATI drivers that prevents this from working. You never told me what xv is
[05:23] <f4hy> and how does the aiglx bug relate to mythbuntu?
[05:23] <Shadow__X> the bug causes screen corruption
[05:24] <Shadow__X> look up xV
[05:24] <Shadow__X> x video extension
[05:24] <Shadow__X> it uses hardware instead of software
[05:25] <Shadow__X> using x11 uses cpu
[05:27] <f4hy> well thanks for all your help
[05:27] <Shadow__X> mhm
[15:11] <marl> hi folks, im trying to get mythtv to play back some .avi videos that i hav downlaoded, i can play them fine with vlc on windoz, but all i can get from mythtv frontend is the audio, can anyone point me in the rite direction to start trying to diagnose the problem?
[15:13] <marl> or is there a way to transfer all the codecs i hav on my windoz machines to mythtv video?
[15:21] <NTolerance> marl: you probably need w32codecs and assorted gstreamer packages
[15:22] <NTolerance> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[15:24] <NTolerance> also, try to play any files using totem, it will prompt you to download and install certain codecs automatically
[15:24] <marl> ok thanks :)
[15:24] <NTolerance> np
[15:27] <marl> lol, typical, kids just starting watching a recoding, will hav to wait till they hav finished that be4 testing :(
[15:32] <marl> anyone know if there is a way to get mythfront end to run uncer windoz? to allow playback of live tv?
[15:34] <marl> i know there is a couple of win32 frontends, but only one with livetv and is experimental, was wandering if there was a cygwin option or something?
[15:34] <jphillip> marl the mythtv player has a version that does livetv
[15:35] <jphillip> I haven't checked the native windows frontend recently, but its supposidly in reasonably good shape now
[15:37] <marl> what is the native windos frontend called?
[15:37] <marl> the mythtv player says that using livetv, may hang the mythbackend, anyone comment on this happening?
[15:39] <sabhain> isn't there something called MythWin?  Might want to google it .. I think it was a sourceforge project
[16:04] <sshirley> Hi all. This is mostly a general Linux question but related to MythTV. Occasionally during certain operations in MyhTV (pressing 'next song' a number of times in MythMusic, or stopping a slideshow in MythGallery, etc)., MythTV will totally crash. Mind you, all these actions are performed with the remote control, so that might have something to do with it (as the service fails to start yet it still functions). Is there anywhere on 
[17:43] <marl> ok, totem will play my .avi files from the ubuntu desktop, but mythtv frotnend will only play the audio (it is set to use mplayer at present) is there a way to get mplayer to use the codecs that totem has, or is it easier to set totem as the video playback program within mythtv?
[17:50] <Shadow__X> marl try playing the files in mplayer
[17:51] <Shadow__X> you might want to install gstreamer plutins
[17:56] <marl> mplayer says, error opening/initalising the selected video_out (-vo) device
[17:57] <marl> which gstreamer plug set should i install if i search i get about20-30 packages
[17:57] <marl> gstreamer0.10-plugins-base is already installed
[17:57] <Shadow__X> ah so your issue isnt with codecs
[17:58] <Shadow__X> what video card do you have
[17:58] <marl> an ati card
[17:58] <Shadow__X> heh
[17:58] <Shadow__X> of course
[17:58] <Shadow__X> what version ati card do you have
[17:58] <marl> had problems originally with mythfrontend, but got them sorted
[17:58] <Shadow__X> what problems
[17:59] <marl> VERY bad live tv playback about 1 frame a sec, and same with recorded playback
[17:59] <Shadow__X> ah
[17:59] <marl> installed the ati bin drivers, and that sorted the problem
[17:59] <Shadow__X> what version video card do you have
[17:59] <marl> now live tv and recording playback is fine
[18:00] <Shadow__X> then if you told mplayer to play files
[18:00] <Shadow__X> tell it to use x11 ace
[18:00] <marl> how do i do that?
[18:00] <marl> setup/player settings?
[18:00] <Shadow__X> where did you tell it to use mplayer
[18:01] <marl> its the default entery in mythfrontend, setup/player settings, default video player
[18:01] <Shadow__X> didnt you say you set it up to use mplayer
[18:01] <Shadow__X> so your saying when you try and play it in mythtv front end it doesnt work
[18:02] <marl> i said it was set to use mplayer, that was the default setting that mythfrontend had after installing it
[18:02] <marl> yup
[18:02] <Shadow__X> tell it to use
[18:03] <Shadow__X> mplayer -xo x11
[18:21] <marl> -vo x11 worked thanks :)
[18:59] <tgm4883_laptop> frink_, ping
[19:54] <darthanubis> http://www.linux.com/feature/144179
[20:05] <jphillip> darthanubis we include the mythtv windows player on our cd that they mention in there
[20:06] <darthanubis> btw mythexport works now
[20:06] <darthanubis> don't ask me how or what I did?
[20:06] <jphillip> heh, I still maintain you were doing something wonky, but glad it works :)
[20:07] <darthanubis> you know, I really resent your confidence in that regard
[20:07] <darthanubis> oh yeah
[20:07] <darthanubis> :)
[20:08] <darthanubis> but I guess it had to be me:/ although I wish I knew what, so I could learn from the whole ordeal
[20:12] <Greybeard> greetings
[20:39] <Greybeard> does anyone know what happened to the trunk weekly builds?
[20:49] <foxbuntu_vm> Greybeard, I think laga is the one dealing with that, ask him for more info
[20:50] <Greybeard> ok
[20:50] <jphillip> didn't build cleanly I don't think
[20:50] <jphillip> and then he had finals
[20:50] <Greybeard> I guess I'll just have to try to build it on my machine
[21:07] <laga> Greybeard: thjere are builds for mythtv
[21:07] <laga> no mythplugins yet
[21:07] <laga> afk
[21:07] <MythbuntuGuest83> Hi all
[21:07] <MythbuntuGuest83> I wonder if anyone can help me with a sound issue? I'm new to Mythbuntu so go easy :)
[21:08] <MythbuntuGuest83> My output audio is very very low. Even if I grank the TV volume it stays at the same level. Has anyone got any pointers?
[21:09] <MythbuntuGuest83> I'm using an Nvidia mobo if that helps with intergrated sound
[21:11] <Greybeard> is "deb http://weeklybuilds.mythbuntu.org/mythbuntu-trunk/ubuntu hardy main" the right line for sources.list?
[21:12] <Greybeard> I'm not seeing any packages newer than the ones in the normal ubuntu repositories
[21:13] <NTolerance> MythbuntuGuest83: try running alsamixer in the terminal
[21:14] <Greybeard> yeah, try turning up any PCM or front or main volumes
[21:15] <MythbuntuGuest83> Thanks guys :) I turned up the volumes to 100 in the myth frontend. Do I need to go into the linux and do the same?
[21:33] <Greybeard> I may not be interpreting the repositories correctly, but it seems to me that http://weeklybuilds.mythbuntu.org/mythbuntu-trunk/ubuntu/dists/hardy/Release lists a bunch of empty Packages files
[21:33] <Greybeard> http://weeklybuilds.mythbuntu.org/mythbuntu/ubuntu/dists/hardy/Release clearly has packages in it OTOH
[21:40] <laga> oh, the mirrors are probably not updated for the new PPA
[21:40] <laga> wait a second
[21:41] <laga> https://launchpad.net/~mythbuntu-trunk-0.22/+archive
[21:41] <laga> we added the versioning to the name of the archive to avoid upgrading issues
[21:41] <laga> ie for those who don't want to upgrade ;)
[21:45] <tgm4883_laptop> a
[21:45] <tgm4883_laptop> h
[21:45] <tgm4883_laptop> so we need to update the page then?
[21:46] <laga> we need to update the mirrors script probably, but i need to finish mythplugins first
[21:46] <laga> also, check slashdot
[21:47] <tgm4883_laptop> laga, yea I read that article
[21:47] <tgm4883_laptop> they left out native frontend support
[21:47] <laga> haha
[21:55] <Greybeard> thanks, that PPA seems to be working
[21:56] <tgm4883_laptop> speaking of, has anyone tried native windows MythTV frontend support?
[22:01] <marl> tgm4883_laptop, u talking about mythtvplayer ?
[22:01] <tgm4883_laptop> marl, no, apparently MythTV frontend can run on Windows
[22:01] <tgm4883_laptop> sec, i'll dig up the info
[22:02] <marl> now THAT i would be interested in trying
[22:05] <tgm4883_laptop> marl, http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Windows_Port
[23:28] <vbman11_> how does one edit the mythtv backend options from a terminal?
[23:28] <Greybeard> which options?
[23:28] <Greybeard> command line options?
[23:28] <vbman11_> tv card
[23:29] <Greybeard> card settings are edited with mythtv-setup
[23:29] <vbman11_> yea but I want to edit them with a terminal(I'm using an ssh)
[23:30] <Greybeard> you can use the mysql command to edit the database directly
[23:30] <vbman11_> how
[23:30] <Greybeard> I don't know; I'm not that masochistic
[23:30] <vbman11_> ohh
[23:30] <vbman11_> ok
[23:30] <vbman11_> thanks anyway
[23:30] <Greybeard> you can run mythtv-setup through ssh
[23:30] <Greybeard> or any X program for that matter
[23:31] <Greybeard> or, you can run X programs in a vnc session and forward the VNC connection through SSH
[23:36] <rhpot1991> heh @ "I'm not that masochistic"
[23:40] <vbman11_> ok so what is the command to manually start the backend
[23:43] <rhpot1991> sudo /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend start (or restart if it may be running)
[23:43] <rhpot1991> restart is safer
[23:43] <rhpot1991> it will start a new one if there is no other running
[23:44] <vbman11_> thanks
[23:45] <rhpot1991> np
[23:59] <marl> anyone remond me what the script is that creates links to myth recordings with the recording name etc?