[00:01] <Mez> yay for blog posts about vanity emails ;)
[00:01] <Mez> http://www.sourceguru.net/archives/148
[01:42] <corq-FL> test me
[01:42] <corq-FL> *doh*
[01:44] <corq-FL> if anyone has time, I have applied the patch to my router and I believe, finished all the instructions to get back into #ubuntu, if anyone has a moment to test me. thx.
[02:53] <elky_work> Q:  We have a bunch of machines here by WBI.  Does anyone know anything about this company?  Do we have a support agreement with them?
[02:53] <elky_work> A:  The computers are from IBM and have been installed in the rack upside down.
[02:53] <elky_work> true story. just happened to my boss.
[02:56] <Hobbsee> HAH!
[06:33] <Myrtti> dear lord I hate browsers.
[07:09] <Myrtti> WAKEY WAKEY RISE AND SHINE
[07:09] <robotgeek> thanks Myrtti , now i can go back to bed :)
[07:10]  * Mez yawns
[07:12] <jussi01> mrgh
[07:12] <jussi01> mornings...
[07:13]  * Hobbsee bans mornings.
[07:13] <Myrtti> TIS A WONDERFUL DAY!
[07:13] <Myrtti> NO GRUMPING!
[07:13]  * Myrtti jumphuggles jussi01 
[07:15] <jussi01> :D
[07:15] <jussi01> yay Myrtti is happy!! now let me sleep...
[07:17]  * Myrtti tugs jussi01s hand
[07:17] <Myrtti> no sleeping
[07:17] <Myrtti> I want someone to play with
[07:17] <jussi01> What is up with you today? why so happy?
[07:18] <Myrtti> BAH, LAG
[07:18] <elky_work> Myrtti: how many coffees today?
[07:19] <Myrtti> elky_work: only half a pot espresso
[07:19] <Myrtti> jussi01: loverly people having loverly things happening today, and I get to sleep in a hotel!
[07:21] <jussi01> right. mrgh... got to get up and go to work. talk later
[07:21] <elky_work> what is with all these hotels of late? are you off partying with geeks again?
[07:21] <Myrtti> stupid lag.
[07:22] <Myrtti> yeah, company summer party
[07:22] <elky_work> nie
[07:22] <elky_work> nice*
[07:22] <Myrtti> employer pays this time
[07:22] <elky_work> i'm so over this week
[07:23]  * Myrtti kicks the web server
[07:23] <elky_work> heh
[07:24]  * Myrtti kicks opera
[07:24] <elky_work> just kick the whole internet, save the time of iterating through each part that sucks
[07:25] <Myrtti> I'd rather not kick my phone
[07:28] <Myrtti> hold on...
[07:28] <Myrtti> http://paste.ubuntu.com/37642/
[07:29] <Myrtti> note: "Drowning without written permission is against the company policy and forbidden during the cruise."
[07:34] <Myrtti> oh btw
[07:35] <Myrtti> nick "ubuntu" is on the exploit victim list
[07:35] <Myrtti> which I think is not a good thing?
[07:36] <elky_work> Myrtti: remove at discretion
[07:37] <nalioth> Myrtti: 'ubuntu' is used by anyone with a default client or liveCD
[07:37] <Myrtti> nalioth: exactly why it is a bad thing
[07:37] <nalioth> not necessarily the same user that was affected
[07:37] <elky_work> nalioth: which is why it's not a good idea
[07:37] <Myrtti> indeed
[07:37] <Myrtti> I've got no idea how to remove the banforward...
[07:38] <Myrtti> well I do
[07:38] <Myrtti> but to remove from the bots?
[07:38] <elky_work> floodbot code needs to be updated with a whitelist of 'do not quarantine'
[07:38] <Myrtti> or do they sniff it automagically?
[07:38] <elky_work> Myrtti: exploit can be set on a nick, so i assume it can be removed from it too
[07:38] <Myrtti> elky_work: yeah, they also need to include *.canonical.com to the list of hosts not to be warned about having multiple connections
[07:38] <Myrtti> :-P
[07:39] <elky_work> Myrtti: and /nat/*
[07:39] <elky_work> tbh
[07:39] <Myrtti> yup, though doesn't all nat cloaks still get a unique id in the end?
[07:40] <Myrtti> s/doesn't/don't/
[07:40] <elky_work> dunno
[07:41] <Myrtti> but I'm not going to join #ubuntu today as my connection possibilities are somewhat limited
[07:42] <Myrtti> so if the removal of the nick ubuntu from the victims list requires that, I'm not going to do it
[07:42] <Myrtti> anyway, the train is arriving to Pasila, so I'll sod off.
[08:50] <bazhang> first victim of ultamatix sighted
[08:51] <Seeker`> ultamatix?
[08:51] <bazhang> !ultamatix
[09:59] <jussi01> hrm, how long does it take for posts to hit planet I wonder...
[10:06] <jussi01> well not too long anyway :D
[10:12] <bazhang> platyhelminth quit message
[10:14] <bazhang> * platyhelminth has quit ("I love to kill people")
[10:14] <bazhang> that must be against the CoC
[10:14] <elkbuntu> jussi01, you blogged about the ultabreaksit death?
[10:14] <bazhang> haha
[10:14] <bazhang> ultrabreaksit
[10:14] <jussi01> hehe
[10:17] <elkbuntu> aww just about firefox
[10:17] <elkbuntu> bazhang, got a log of the ultabreaksit diagnosis?
[10:18] <bazhang> elkbuntu, the guy who had his machine borked? I already deleted his sources.list; needless to say it was gruesome :)
[10:19] <bazhang> he did pastebin it at the time I mentioned it though elkbuntu
[10:20] <bazhang> wow. just reading about baron1984s bannage from all things ubuntu. (via planet.ubuntu.com)
[10:24] <elkbuntu> ooh... almightycthulhu is baron1984?
[10:24] <elkbuntu> this makes a crapload of sense now
[10:24] <jussi01> elkbuntu: welcome to the world of up to dateness :P
[10:24] <elkbuntu> jussi01, shuddup :Þ
[10:24] <jussi01> heheh
[10:43] <elkbuntu> geez
[10:44] <elkbuntu> i hope he's not on the network anywhere
[10:44] <jussi01> whys that?
[10:44] <Flannel> Is that the first ultamtix casualty we've seen so far?
[10:44]  * Flannel just got home from presenation, apologises for living in the past.
[10:46] <elkbuntu> Flannel, first we've noticed
[10:46] <bazhang> yup
[10:46] <Flannel> That's good, Hopefully it'll fizzle.
[10:46]  * Flannel believes in wishful thinking.
[10:46] <elkbuntu> jussi01, um... because if what mjg says is true, it'll be a fun weekend
[10:46] <bazhang> !ultrabreaksit
[10:46] <bazhang> hmm
[10:47] <jussi01> heh
[10:47] <elkbuntu> alias time
[10:47] <bazhang> haha
[10:47] <Flannel> Isn't it ulta?
[10:47] <Flannel> not ultra
[10:47] <bazhang> ultra is funnier
[10:47] <jussi01> !ultabreaksit is <alias>ultamatix
[10:48] <jussi01> !ultabreaksit is
[10:48] <jussi01> !ultabreaksit
[10:48] <jussi01> hehe
[10:48] <bazhang> :)
[10:52] <elkbuntu> !logs
[11:01] <elkbuntu> bazhang, btw, if someone asks for something like network manager that doesnt require gnome or kde, suggest wifi-radar - graphical utility for managing Wi-Fi profiles
[11:02] <elkbuntu> not sure how alike it is, but it should make wifi easier at least
[11:03] <ikonia> elkbuntu: thats handy to kmnow
[11:03] <ikonia> know
[11:07] <elkbuntu> ikonia, no prob. also, a desktop-independant stickynote alternative is xpad
[11:08] <elkbuntu> doesnt have wikilinking like tomboy though
[11:17] <ikonia> these 3rd part repo's are killers
[11:18] <ikonia> everyone wants to use them, yet the people who maintain them send them here for support
[11:19] <elkbuntu> i know
[11:20] <elkbuntu> not everyone, just everyone who thinks they know better than the developers
[11:22] <elkbuntu> oh wow. <3 the new network manager in ibex
[11:23]  * Seeker` wants his desktop back so he can play with ibex
[11:23] <elkeee> im playing with it on here
[11:25] <elkeee> but seriously, networkmanager-applet 0.7.0 is hawt
[11:29] <jussi01> it was real buggy for me on hardy
[11:29] <jussi01> oh, hang on, that was knetwork manager
[11:30]  * Dave2 considers upgrading his laptop to it, now it's no longer essential.
[11:31] <elkeee> Dave2, this is my email machine. my email is in imap so it doesnt matter if it b0rks
[11:31] <elkeee> well, every machine i touch is my email machine, this is just my portable one
[11:32] <Dave2> My laptop is the machine with nothing important on it any more. When I was in uni, it was important, since I needed it for lecture notes. Now it'd just be a pain if it stopped working, but not crucial.
[11:33] <Dave2> (Incidentally, I do remember fighting with network-manager quite a few times in uni. And recently, too, where it latches on to a network and refuses to change.)
[11:33] <elkeee> yeah, that's irritating
[11:36] <elkeee> the whole gui has changed for the ibex version though. incorporates all networky things better. i think you could always get to them from there, but now it's smooth as
[11:36] <jussi01> kahrytan: what can we help you with today?
[11:43] <ikonia> kahrytan: I can see you active in ##windows, could you please respond
[11:46] <kahrytan> my bad
[11:47] <kahrytan> Anyone know status of me being unbanned from -offtopic?
[11:47] <ikonia> I can't see you banned in -offtopic
[11:48] <kahrytan> ikonia»  closer
[11:48] <ikonia> closer ?
[11:48] <kahrytan> look close at list
[11:49] <kahrytan> It's near emma's ban
[11:50] <ikonia> I suggest you speak to the person who banned you
[11:50] <kahrytan> And note I said status
[11:50] <ikonia> why is that of note ?
[11:50] <kahrytan> It's an irc council thing
[11:51] <jussi01> kahrytan: I suggest you wait for one of the council to come along - they are the ones who would know
[11:51] <kahrytan> and the ban was months upon months ago
[11:52] <kahrytan> What with the double nick jussi01 ?
[11:53] <bazhang> @btlogin
[11:54] <kahrytan> bazhang»  bt?
[11:54] <ikonia> kahrytan: that wasn't to  you
[11:55] <jussi01> kahrytan: I suggest you come back in 5-8 hours - when more council members would be around
[11:55] <kahrytan> jussi01»  as in goto bed.
[11:56] <kahrytan> its 1am here
[11:56] <jussi01> kahrytan: yes, then try in the morning your time.
[12:32]  * Myrtti huggles jussi01 
[12:33] <jussi01> :)
[12:33] <Myrtti> I'm here enjoying an Open Task (ie apple cider) and talking workstuff with buncha nerd
[12:33] <Myrtti> s
[12:33] <Myrtti> and also the Jackass :-D
[12:34] <jussi01> I hope he sees this... :P
[12:40] <jussi01> relay from -offtopic:
[12:40] <jussi01> [14:38:22] <Sinnerman> jussi01: we were talking about how to streamline help in #ubuntu; basically, the idea is to use that channel to direct you to another channel more appropriate to your query, such as #ubuntu-wifi, and if you have a question that's been answered before, you get to check out a web page/howto about it. and if you still have questions, it gets answered there kinda thing.
[12:41] <elkeee> ugh, not this again
[12:42] <elkeee> yes #ubuntu is annoying now. no it will not be better as a switchboard
[12:43] <jussi01> :)
[13:18] <Seeker`> I've lost count of how many times I've seen that suggestion
[13:19] <Seeker`> and I cant believe how many people suggest something thats such a bad idea
[13:21] <jrib> if people would do a better job of asking questions it wouldn't be as bad
[13:23] <Pricey> Myrtti there is an easier way to remove from quarantine
[13:23] <Pricey> Eek
[13:23] <Pricey> Im getting my commands mixed up, ignore me
[13:25] <Seeker`> /ignore Pricey
[13:27] <Pricey> You're evil
[13:28] <Pricey> Hmm kah been back?
[13:30] <elkbuntu> yep
[13:31] <elkbuntu> yay ibex. flashing red screen. wf
[13:31] <Pricey> Don't tempt me...
[13:32] <Pricey> I.ve just realised what those small squares in the corner are.. They represent channels :)
[13:32] <elkbuntu> ibex on the eeepc
[13:34] <Pricey> Anyway, have fun. I'll have a chat with him later after work if he returns.
[13:48] <Hobbsee> man, these comments on mjg59's blog are great.
[13:52] <jpds> Hobbsee: Epic fail.
[13:52] <Hobbsee> jpds: yeah...
[13:55] <elkbuntu> heh
[13:57] <Seeker`> Hobbsee: link?
[13:58] <jpds> Seeker`: http://mjg59.livejournal.com/
[13:58] <Hobbsee> yeah, taht.
[14:00] <elkbuntu> mjg is a god
[14:28] <xnv> Is it actually against policy to send someone a Google link that includes a link that answers their question?
[14:31] <ikonia> xnv: no
[14:32] <ikonia> xnv: from what I've just read, unop was just explaining that telling people to search google's not always the best form of support
[14:32] <stdin> it's only against the guidelines to tell them to "go google it"
[14:33] <bazhang> giving them the link is better than the long google search string however
[14:35] <stdin> yes, giving them a link to a google search is a bit rude is most peoples opinions. pick the best link from the search results and give them that instead
[14:35] <stdin> some people may not actually have as much "google-foo" as the rest of us
[14:39] <xnv> Hmm. While I agree it's not quite as nice, I think it makes the channel prone to abuse by people who use it as their own personal search engine filter.
[14:40] <bazhang> xnv some folks are just less able to use google and such tools
[14:40] <xnv> And so when I can paste the person's question into Google and get the answer, it seems appropriate to link them that way.
[14:40] <bazhang> ubottu google
[14:40] <xnv> bazhang: Agreed, but if they can type their question into the channel, they should be able to type it into Google
[14:41] <stdin> if you can take the time to post the question in google and post back the search URL, you can post back the first hit ;)
[14:41] <bazhang> xnv, they know about google already; we are smarter than google :)
[14:42] <xnv> bazhang: Well, what they want (and what I want, but don't do any more) is have someone else go parse the answer for me and just tell me what to do.
[14:43] <xnv> bazhang: Then there are others that, as you say, don't have google-fu. To me the difference is clear if cut&paste works. :)
[14:49] <bazhang> xnv, as we cant tell who does and does not have the google-fu, we err on the side of generosity as this is what Ubuntu is all about :)
[14:49] <stdin> if you don't want to do some leg work for the person asking for help, then you don't have to reply at all. part of the IRC Guidelines is "When helping: be helpful", which is where the policy on posting google (or other search engine) search links comes from
[15:10] <bazhang> xnv, was there anything else? this channel has a no idle policy.
[15:21] <xnv> bazhang: Oops, sorry.
[15:34] <Myrtti> Hello kids!
 KlrSpz: well, hate speech is discouraged here. please do not do it again.
[15:43] <bazhang> * AlmightyCthulhu has quit ("Leaving")  thought he was banned in #ubuntu
[15:50]  * stdin doesn't see any active bans on him in #ubuntu
[15:50] <bazhang> so mjg needs to update his blog :)
[15:55] <Myrtti> Please kick my butt if I start to be too annoying?
[15:55] <bazhang> that day will never arrive
[15:57] <Myrtti> You think? Its not even 6pm and I annoy myself...
[15:57] <bazhang> Asus, on the other hand...
[16:01] <Myrtti> True.
[16:01] <Myrtti> He annoys everyone...
[16:02] <Myrtti> Ill give you that.
[16:02]  * bazhang doesnt understand the clamor for folks banned in -ot to get back in
[16:06] <Myrtti> Its a channel Ive been longest on freenode...
[16:06] <bazhang> so its to see you!
[16:06] <bazhang> no wonder!
[16:07] <Myrtti> Ha.
[18:15] <bazhang> zaapiel in -ot
[18:18] <ikonia> eveything cool ?
[18:19] <bazhang> zaapiel is on an 040 spree in ot
[18:20] <bazhang> whoever has privileges there should take a look.
[18:22] <ikonia> can't do anything
[18:22] <ikonia> but yes, needs stopping quick sharp
[18:22] <bazhang> indeed.
[18:22] <bazhang> the usual !factoids make nary a dent in him
[18:22] <ikonia> Pici: elkbuntu you awake ?
[18:23] <ikonia> Myrtti: how about you ?
[18:25] <ikonia> Gary: mneptok Hobbsee ?
[18:34] <bazhang> Clubuntu> Come to ##Club-Ubuntu -- an oasis of Ubuntu liberty on Freenode. We are centered on Ubuntu but open to everything else. This is the premier channel for people who love Ubuntu and the freedom to choose their own adventure. | Official website coming soon!
[18:34] <bazhang> staff may wish to see that ^^
[18:36] <bazhang> * Clubuntu (i=4b39bdce@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-fd6073b54570f452) has joined #ubuntu
[18:38] <stdin> * ##ubunteens n=WahWah adsl-75-57-189-206.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net irc.freenode.net smitherz H+ :0 WahWah
[18:38] <stdin> * adsl-75-57-189-206.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net :End of /WHO list.
[18:38] <stdin> ^that's their real host
[18:38] <bazhang> wow
[18:39] <bazhang> nice work stdin
[18:39] <stdin> it says it in -monitor ;)
[18:39] <stdin> [18:33]<FloodBot1> Clubuntu (*!*@adsl-75-57-189-206.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) is being let into #ubuntu from a gateway
[18:39] <bazhang> :)
[18:39] <bazhang> one of those high-up ops, eh?
[18:40] <stdin> you should be able to join there too
[18:41] <bazhang> I do, but the bots there do a /whois on me :)
[19:00] <bazhang> The Pici is BACK!
[19:00] <Pici> only sorta
[19:00] <Pici> ;)
[19:00] <bazhang> :)
[19:00] <Pici> but vacation has been good
[19:00] <bazhang> this has a been a rotten week without you
[19:00] <bazhang> but good to hear you had a vaca
[19:00] <bazhang> +tion
[19:02] <jussi01> Pici: stoplying... you were in the factoid factory slaving away... :P
[19:05] <Pici> Maybe thats what I wanted you to think
[19:07] <jussi01> Pici: I am big brother... I have my eye on you.... :P
[19:08] <nalioth> bazhang: why would staff want to see ##club-ubuntu ?
[19:08] <bazhang> nalioth, the spammer?
[19:09] <nalioth> bazhang: i'm not following you
[19:09] <bazhang> thought spam was a freenode issue; my mistake.
[19:10] <jussi01> nalioth: the User Clubuntu was spamming about ##club-ubuntu if i read correct
[19:10] <PriceChild> In what channel, triggered?
[19:11] <nalioth> bazhang: it is, but your post made no sense to me  ( perhaps i'm not reading it correctly )
[19:11] <nalioth> PriceChild: i'm on it
[19:11] <nalioth> i've found the culprit
[19:11] <bazhang> nalioth, my apologies.
[19:11] <bazhang> been watching ot and ubuntu and my head is spinning
[19:15] <nalioth> ok, bazhang i tracked the spammer down and completely ruined his/her day
[19:16] <bazhang> nalioth, sorry to disturb you
[19:16] <nalioth> not a problem, your original paste was confusing
[19:17] <bazhang> I confess to being confused at the time
[19:24] <nalioth> alrighty then.
[19:28] <bazhang> sometime early next week (likely Mon.)
[20:16] <Gary> 3
[20:17] <Flannel> 7
[20:17] <Myrtti> Whut?
[20:17] <Flannel> Myrtti: What?
[20:17] <nalioth> 10, of course
[20:18] <jussi01> 17?
[20:18] <PriceChild> I was just about to /win somewhere but now I've forgotten where.
[20:19] <jussi01> PriceChild: /win ?
[20:21] <Pici> /lose
[20:22] <jussi01> hehe
[20:23]  * jussi01 would like to /lose a few people...
[20:28] <Myrtti> Right.
[20:28] <bazhang> zaap is top of my list
[20:28] <Myrtti> I haz no backlog
[20:28] <bazhang> be thankful
[20:28] <Myrtti> I am. Also very drunk.
[20:29] <bazhang> haha
[20:29] <bazhang> all the better
[20:29] <Myrtti> I think so too.
[20:30] <bazhang> forgot I did not have privileges in there and did a /cs kb zaa<tab>
[20:31] <Myrtti> Im happy Im on mobile.
[20:32] <nalioth> apologies for the ubot3 dancing.  my ISP sucks and i can't get the bot to run on a remote host
[20:49] <jussi01> nalioth: would you like an account on my server for backup?
[20:50] <jussi01> nalioth: your bot dir should be able to be tarred and copied straight across - everthign should already be installed
[20:50] <Seeker`> I should really find a new shell
[20:51] <kahrytan> Aloha
[20:51] <jussi01> Seeker`: Ive plenty of space and bandwidth (160gb hdd, 10/10 connection if needed)
[20:52] <kahrytan> am i too late jussi01 ?
[20:52] <Seeker`> jussi01: I just want an irssi shell
[20:52] <jussi01> Seeker`: yeah, I can do that
[20:52] <jussi01> kahrytan: ask away
[20:52] <kahrytan> Wheres the irc council members?
[20:53] <jussi01> kahrytan: around. just ask.
[20:54] <kahrytan> 160gb hdd.. must be a laptop
[20:55] <jussi01> kahrytan: you are here for a reason, please use your time wisely
[20:55] <kahrytan> jussi01»  irc council already knows my reason.
[20:58] <nalioth> we do?
[20:58]  * nalioth looks for his ESP hat
[20:58] <nalioth> darn, out of batteries  :(
[21:00] <kahrytan> nalioth»  because of my paste very months old ban in -offtopic. OR do you guys even communicate?
[21:00] <kahrytan> *past
[21:01] <kahrytan> old by few months old since like march
[21:03] <Nafallo> !nickspamming
[21:03] <Flannel> !nickspam
[21:03] <Nafallo> ugh. no URL...
[21:03] <Flannel> URL to what?
[21:03] <Nafallo> thanks anyway.
[21:04] <Nafallo> some hateful page that gives five million reasons to avoid it :-)
[21:04] <kahrytan> Nafallo»  because it is inconsiderate of others in the channel.
[21:04] <Flannel> Nafallo: Oh, here: http://sackheads.org/~bnaylor/spew/away_msgs.html
[21:05] <Nafallo> Flannel: thanks :-)
[21:05] <Flannel> Nafallo: That's linked from the IRC guidelines, if you needed to know how to direct someone there
[21:05] <Nafallo> naah. other network :-)
[21:06] <Nafallo> people annoy me, and I'm too lazy to argue ;-)
[21:07] <kahrytan> Nafallo»  I wish I had your laziness
[21:07] <kahrytan> Nafallo»  If I was to lazy to argue, i would get into trouble with -ops far less
[21:07] <Nafallo> kahrytan: what would you do with it? :-)
[21:07] <Nafallo> ah
[21:07] <Nafallo> hehe
[21:09] <nalioth> this is not a social or support channel
[21:10] <nalioth> kahrytan: your request has been noted
[21:10] <kahrytan> nalioth»   That was said last month
[21:13] <kahrytan> nalioth»  Goodbye.  I got email to list as well. Don't ignore it.
[21:14] <Seeker`> stdin: ping
[21:15] <stdin> Seeker`: pong
[21:15] <Seeker`> stdin: mind if I PM you?
[21:15] <stdin> nope :)
[21:17]  * Pricey notices a lack of kah.
[21:17] <nalioth> Pricey: did you want him back?
[21:19] <Pricey> I think I'm happy.
[21:21] <jussi01> Pricey: you_think_ ?
[21:21] <jussi01> :P
[21:22] <PriceChild> jussi01: I'm often shown to be wrong.
[21:30] <PriceChild> Is kah banned anywhere else?
[21:32] <nalioth> not that i'm aware of
[22:45] <jussi01> quiet tonight...
[22:45] <Seeker`> dont jinx it
[22:46] <jussi01> hehe
[22:47] <nalioth> no, don't.  it's raining trolls right and left elsewhere
[22:48] <Seeker`> where?
[22:48] <nalioth> elsewhere on the network
[22:49] <nalioth> do you want me to direct them toward #ubuntu ?
[22:49] <Seeker`> doesn't bother me, I'm not an op there
[22:49] <Seeker`> :P
[22:49] <jussi01> Seeker`: oh shush boy...
[22:58] <jussi01> PriceChild: still up?
[22:59] <PriceChild> jussi01: I am indeedy.
[22:59] <Seeker`> PriceChild never sleeps
[22:59] <Seeker`> he just checks his eyelids for holes occasionally
[23:00] <jussi01> PriceChild: could you give a little more clarification on how to document "Evidence of activity within IRC (quality, quantity and duration)" ?
[23:00] <Seeker`> jussi01: provide every public log that you are active in
[23:02] <jussi01> Seeker`: right... and people are going to read through the last year and a half of logs? even if I had them?
[23:02] <Seeker`> maybe...
[23:02] <PriceChild> That's an odd bit tacked onto that bullet point.
[23:03] <jussi01> right :)
[23:03] <jussi01> PriceChild: me thinks that maybe the afore mentioned things are the evidence - and that is an explanation of why you need them
[23:04] <jussi01> am I correct?
[23:04] <PriceChild> jussi01: I think that would be a good way to go about it.
[23:05] <jussi01> PriceChild: ok :)
[23:06]  * jussi01 is thinking how to structure his wiki page well - any tips?
[23:06] <PriceChild> jussi01: don't forget to support the that bit with mentioning the bot also.
[23:06] <jussi01> PriceChild: yeah, good point
[23:09] <PriceChild> That document should have something at the top telling people not to edit it
[23:10] <PriceChild> maybe
[23:11] <jussi01> yeah it probably should have something