[01:06] <emgent> kirkland: ok ecryptfs sounds good, the only problem in ubuntu is if the X user change system password, true ?
[01:07] <kirkland> emgent: nope
[01:07] <kirkland> cat /etc/pam.d/common-password
[01:07] <emgent> oh true..
[01:07] <kirkland> emgent: ;-)
[01:07] <emgent> password   optional	pam_ecryptfs.so
[01:07] <emgent> hahah it`s perfect :)
[01:07] <kirkland> emgent: however, it is currently not very easy to change the underlying mount passphrase
[01:08] <kirkland> emgent: you'd have to mount two different directories, one with the existing data and existing password
[01:08] <kirkland> emgent: and a second one with the new password
[01:08] <kirkland> emgent: and copy the data from the old to the new
[01:08] <kirkland> emgent: and then remove the old
[01:08] <emgent> nods nods
[01:08] <kirkland> emgent: that's not ideal....
[01:08] <kirkland> emgent: but that's low on the priority list
[01:11] <emgent> ok understand. nice :)
[02:21] <tacone> hello, is there any standard location to store ssl certs to be used with apache2+ssl ?
[02:23] <nxvl> tacone: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/index.html
[02:24] <ScottK> lamont: Thanks.  I'm back online now.
[02:24] <nxvl> ScottK: you haven't been here all day?
[02:24] <tacone> nxvl: what specifically ? etc/ssl ?
[02:24] <nxvl> tacone: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/httpd.html
[02:25] <ScottK> nxvl: Nope.  Left about 14 hours ago.
[02:25] <nxvl> at the bottom of the guide
[02:25] <tacone> nxvl: I am already there.
[02:25] <tacone> nxvl: is there any policy I can read ? would subdirectories tollerated for /etc/ssl ?
[02:25] <nxvl> tacone: not that i know, but that's the official ubuntu server guide
[02:26] <nxvl> ScottK: mmm enought time to don't know about what i was asking
[02:26] <nxvl> ScottK: i will wait until you get to it
[02:26] <nxvl> :D
[02:27] <tacone> nxvl: I am asking because we are putting in place a wizard to set SSL certs on apache2 in our software. that's why I need feedback on which solution would be optimal
[02:28] <nxvl> tacone: that's what i thought
[02:28] <tacone> ok
[02:29] <nxvl> tacone: i would find a good way to do it putting them into private/ and certs/ naming the certificates with the hostname or some part of it
[02:29] <tacone> nxvl: the help page miss an useful information. I'd add it but seems non-editable
[02:30] <nxvl> tacone: talk to sommer
[02:30] <nxvl> tacone: he's our documentation leader
[02:31] <tacone> nxvl: do you have his email ?
[02:31] <nxvl> sommer: ping
[02:31] <nxvl> tacone: https://edge.launchpad.net/~asommer
[02:32] <ScottK> Yeah!  Only 280 new emails since I was last at my desk.
[02:34] <ScottK> Almost forgot ...
[02:34] <nxvl> ScottK: i can't imagine dholbach's inbox after his 3 week holidays
[02:34] <ScottK> nxvl: Congratulations.
[02:34] <nxvl> ScottK: thank you!
[02:34] <nxvl> you get into it!
[02:34] <nxvl> :D
[02:34] <nxvl> got*
[02:35] <tacone> thanks nxvl, ~sommer doesn't seemed to be the right username :)
[02:39] <sommer> nxvl: yo
[02:39]  * sommer reading backlog
[02:40] <sommer> tacone: you wanted to add something to the docs?
[02:41] <tacone> yes
[02:41] <tacone> I was about to write you a mail
[02:41] <tacone> there's a missing note for ssl config.
[02:42] <sommer> for apache?
[02:42] <tacone> https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/httpd.html
[02:43] <sommer> what's missing?
[02:43] <tacone> you need to convert NameVirtualHost to *.80 (not just *) and then convert any <virtualhost> to use port 80.
[02:43] <tacone> surprisingly seems like even the default config (no user defined vhosts around) won't work with that.
[02:44] <sommer> ah, ya that section needs some other updates... I'll add something about that
[02:44] <tacone> sommer: that's valid only for hardy, not intrepid. intrepid shuold just work (haven't tried, but they seem to have adjusted)
[02:44] <tacone> ok thanks
[02:44] <sommer> tacone: ya, intrepid should have ssl by default
[02:44] <sommer> tacone: thank you
[02:45] <tacone> np
[05:12] <abaqueiro> hello, I have this problem: I installed Ubuntu Server for sparc, I have 2 disk (hda, hdd) both with four partitions, the partitions 1º are only unused 8 Mb partitions, the partitions 2º are about 512 Mb, and I created a Raid1 device for the swap, the partitions 4º about 19Gb in both disk are for a RAID1 device, wich contain a ext3 filesystem (including /boot), ubuntu instalation was ok, until the instalation of silo, where it says there was an 
[05:12] <abaqueiro> [S] instead of the [U_] that I expected
[05:13] <abaqueiro> in the boot messages it says something about md0 stopped and md1 stopped and something about bind hda4
[05:17] <abaqueiro> does anyone have and idea what can be happening???
[05:47] <joebob777as7> i'm having some pretty poor network performance can someone give me a hand? it's about 1/10th the speed it runs in vista...
[05:49] <abaqueiro> wireless?
[05:49] <joebob777as7> sending a 3GB file only runs between 2 and 5mbps... and on vista it's over 20mbps
[05:49] <joebob777as7> abaqueiro, wired
[05:51] <joebob777as7> abaqueiro, i'm trying to stream some movies and they aren't working :(
[05:51] <abaqueiro> could be the wireless driver, or the protocol you are using to transfer the movies
[05:52] <joebob777as7> abaqueiro, it's wired
[05:52] <joebob777as7> samba
[05:52] <jmedina> joebob777as7: check the mode
[05:52] <jmedina> ethtool eth0
[05:52] <jmedina> for example
[05:53] <joebob777as7> jmedina, http://pastebin.ca/1172438
[05:54] <joebob777as7> jmedina, peaks at about 6 mbps
[05:54] <jmedina> it is Half
[05:54] <jmedina> #
[05:54] <jmedina> Speed: 100Mb/s
[05:54] <jmedina> #
[05:54] <jmedina>         Duplex: Half
[05:54] <joebob777as7> jmedina, how can I make it full?
[05:55] <jmedina> try to change it to full
[05:55] <jmedina> man ethtool
[05:55] <jmedina> dont remember the param, but it is in the manpage
[05:56] <joebob777as7> jmedina, will it interrupt my transfer if I try it now?
[05:58] <jmedina> joebob777as7:  :S
[06:00] <joebob777as7> jmedina, so I ran this: sudo ethtool -s eth1 duplex full speed 1000
[06:00] <joebob777as7> and it is still half... :(
[06:00] <jmedina> mmm what about the other side?
[06:00] <jmedina> is there more hosts?
[06:00] <jmedina> are
[06:01] <joebob777as7> the other side is fine it's been tested in vista...
[06:01] <jmedina> full speed 1000?
[06:01] <joebob777as7> jmedina, well no it's only 100 but full 100
[06:02] <jmedina> but did you type 1000 in the prompt?
[06:02] <joebob777as7> yes
[06:02] <joebob777as7> do I need to set it while it's running?
[06:04] <joebob777as7> or before I start the transfer?
[06:04] <jmedina> not sure
[06:04] <jmedina> its been a long time since I used
[06:06] <joebob777as7> jmedina, ok thx for pointing me in the right direction.
[06:07] <jmedina> you can also try with mii-tool
[06:12] <jmedina> joebob777as7: try this
[06:12] <jmedina> ethtool -s eth0 speed 100 duplex full autoneg off
[09:16] <kraut> moin
[11:42] <mdz> I'm seeing an apparent deadlock between mutt and dovecot on Intrepid, which was working great until recently
[11:42] <mdz> mutt is blocked reading from dovecot, and dovecot is just polling waiting for something to happen
[11:42] <mdz> neither of them has changed recently, though
[11:43] <mok0> mdz: ... rebooting doesn't help?
[11:43] <mdz> mok0: I haven't tried rebooting, why?
[11:44] <mdz> disconnecting from dovecot and reconnecting gets it working again for a while, then it gets stuck again
[11:44] <mok0> Because it would remove zombie processes, dead socket files etc
[11:44] <mok0> mdz: is dovecot running on a remote server?
[11:44] <mdz> mok0: no, locally via a pipe (mutt's "set tunnel")
[11:45] <mdz> and dovecot --exec-mail imap
[11:45] <mok0> Hmm
[11:46] <mdz> I'm going to try to get a trace of the imap conversation and see what's going wrong
[11:46] <mok0> I stopped using mutt when we introduced dovecot...
[11:46] <mok0> mutt sucks at imap
[11:46] <mdz> mok0: what did you switch to?
[11:46] <mok0> kmail
[11:46] <mdz> it does a bit
[11:46] <ivoks> mok0: fetch your mail with fetchmail then :)
[11:46] <mok0> I used thunderbird for a while, but I prefer kmail
[11:46] <mdz> it's very good at a number of other things, though
[11:47] <mdz> I'm told thunderbird has good keyboard navigation now
[11:47] <mok0> ivoks: I'm not that enamoured with mutt. I used it when I needed a local mail reader on the mail host.
[11:48] <ivoks> as for GUI clients, claws just rules all of them
[11:48] <mok0> ivoks: I run kubuntu, don't like the looks of GTK
[11:49] <mok0> anyways, we're getting OT
[11:49] <ivoks> right
[11:50] <ivoks> mdz: have you tried with other clients?
[11:50] <ivoks> telneting to port 143 would be enough...
[11:51] <mdz> ivoks: I have run dovecot --exec-imap locally, and it talks to me
[11:51] <mdz> it talks to mutt, too, until it goes bad
[11:51] <mdz> it gets hung up immediately after mutt has saved a message to my sent folder
[11:51] <mdz> mutt blocks there and never actually gives the message to sendmail to send it out
[11:51] <mdz> I sent probably 50 messages through this same setup yesterday
[11:53] <ivoks> sent folder is imap folder or local folder?
[11:54] <mdz> ivoks: imap
[11:56] <ivoks> you don't have access to dovecot's logs?
[11:57] <ivoks> or even better, dovecot's configuration... it can provide very nice debuging logs
[12:40] <zul> morning
[12:41] <foolano> hi there
[13:14] <michaelmon> hi guys! need help on this. were you able to set up raid 0 on three disks?
[13:14] <michaelmon> thanks a lot!
[13:46] <_ruben> raid0 .. yuck!
[14:11] <Gothfunc> hi.  how do i make files and dirs created inherit the parent dir's group and permissions?
[14:13] <sommer> Gothfunc: I believe the umask command may be what you're looking for
[14:14] <sommer> Gothfunc: http://www.lockergnome.com/linux/2002/08/29/the-users-mask/   may be of help
[14:15] <Gothfunc> i have that command in mind, but it seems to only affect the shell session.  reading the link now
[14:17] <Gothfunc> sommer: if i wanted to apply that to any session for any user, how might i do that?
[14:17] <sommer> Gothfunc: I think if you change the setting in /etc/skel/.profile it will be set for each session
[14:17] <Gothfunc> gotcha
[14:17]  * Gothfunc looks
[14:17] <sommer> Gothfunc: at least there's an entry at the top :)
[14:18] <Gothfunc> awesome, thanks sommer :)
[14:19] <sommer> Gothfunc: np, it actually mentions the /etc/profile, you might want to take a look at that as weel
[14:19] <sommer> /weel/well/g
[14:20] <Gothfunc> ok
[14:23] <Gothfunc> ok that works, with /etc/profile
[14:23] <Gothfunc> but still lacking group inheritance
[14:24] <Gothfunc> (with directories that are actually g+s)
[14:24] <Gothfunc> it just assigns the group equal to the user
[14:24] <Gothfunc> gothfunc/gothfunc
[14:26] <Gothfunc> nevermind, got it
[14:26] <Gothfunc> :P
[15:00] <juannicolas> Hi, i don't know if my problems actually is ubuntu or my proftpd server, I need to transfer files that are more than 2 gigs and it would not let me.
[15:13] <_ruben> juannicolas: could be a filesystem problem
[15:14] <_ruben> but proftpd might be the prob too, if its not compiled with large file support
[15:14] <juannicolas> _ruben  Im trying to transfer files more than 2 gig size between mandrake to ubuntu
[15:39] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #258162 in postfix (main) "Postfix local privilege escalation via hardlinked symlinks" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/258162
[15:41] <lamont> I love people filing bugs that are fixed.  or have we not quite published it for -security, I wonder
[15:43] <zul> lamont: its so much fun
[15:45] <ScottK> lamont: I commented to that effect
[15:47] <zul> lamont: kees is at debconf and jamie is on vacation afaik pitti is handling security
[15:48]  * lamont smacks it into fix committed status with a comment
[15:48] <ScottK> lamont: We have not quite published it.
[15:48] <lamont> that's why it's committed, not released
[15:49] <ScottK> Right, I typed that before I saw your last comment.
[16:18] <ekimus> anyone already running slapd with a cn=config backend? I'm right now playing around with it (spare box was an etch and I didn't care to reinstall) but I'm having quite some problems but I'm not sure wether it's the ldap browser (apache directory studio) or wether it's indeed slapd.
[16:18] <sommer> ekimus: I've started the documentation of it :)
[16:19] <ekimus> sommer: is that public? is it a wiki? i could add my notes :)
[16:20] <sommer> ekimus: basically rewriting the serverguide openldap section: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/openldap-server.html
[16:20] <sommer> ekimus: I haven't commited my changes yet
[16:21] <ekimus> hehe, always learning great things. I didn't even know about a serverguide in general. :)
[16:21] <sommer> ekimus: if you want to send me your notes that's cool, I should have a commit ready by Sunday or Mondayish
[16:21] <kirkland> zul: superm1 was asking last night about mysql-server's "recommends" on mailx
[16:21] <sommer> ekimus: reviews of the serverguide is always appreciated :)
[16:21] <zul> kirkland: what about it?
[16:22] <kirkland> zul: if we thought it could be dropped to a 'suggests'
[16:22] <kirkland> zul: lamont and ScottK had some good ideas about using a meta package, instead of specific MTA, like mailx
[16:22] <zul> kirkland: propbably yeah it could
[16:23] <lamont> kirkland: mailx is not an MTA
[16:23] <kirkland> lamont: MUA, sorry
[16:24] <ekimus> sommer: I will try to give it a review. But i can't quite promise not to mix in some debian stuff (although that would have to be _very_ special). in most cases one can still use debian docs for ubuntu and the other way around
[16:25] <sommer> ekimus: they're usually pretty close... not sure what the status of the new cn=config changes are in debian though
[16:25] <sommer> ekimus: that is the intrepid cn=config changes... I assume that's what you're testing, heh
[16:25] <ekimus> sommer: is help.ubuntu.com maintained by canoncial. I can't find a login or discusion button.
[16:25] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #258192 in dhcp3 (main) "problem with paths and binding to ldap server" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/258192
[16:26] <ekimus> sommer: actually I'm just getting used to to the ldap part itself right now. I just hackishly fixed the etch init script so that it doesn't choke on new style config
[16:26] <sommer> ekimus: it's a community wiki, maintained by members of the ubuntu community... canonical does manage the servers
[16:27] <sommer> ekimus: with intrepid slapd will use cn=config by default... which is why the docs need updated, it's a pretty big change :)
[16:28] <ekimus> ahh nice. the openldap admin guide is talking about "old style" config also when they refer to the slapd.conf file.
[16:29] <sommer> ekimus: ya, I've found that cn=config documentation isn't as prevelant as slapd.conf... but once you get understand which objects control what, and their attributes, it's not that bad
[16:31] <ekimus> true, the nicest thing about it is no restarts for acl changes. the bad thing is... you can lock yourself out _a lot_ easier :)
[16:31] <sommer> ekimus: heheh... haven't done that yet, but I'm sure it'll happen sooner or later
[16:31] <sommer> it's also very cool for updated indexes and adding schemas
[16:37] <ekimus> yeah i just did dad with loading the dynlist overlay and adding a schema (actually just converted the dynlist schema) and configured dynamic groups for just a single backend. very nice
[16:37] <ekimus> ok going for my break now
[16:48] <edmoore> hi everyone. So are there less evil options than installing gnome-desktop if I want to occassionally use a gui ap, sometimes on a monitor, sometimes over vnc?
[16:54] <ekimus> edmoore: sure just use only xorg and the apps you want (although you'll end up with all the gnome and qt stuff anyway after some time)
[16:54] <ekimus> edmoore: or use tools that connect to an IP and tunnel thru ssh or some vpn
[16:55] <edmoore> second option sounds better. Would dearly like to avoid clogging this box up with crap
[17:04] <ekimus> what kind of gui programs are you talking about? db management stuff, gparted (only local), ....?
[17:26] <ekimus> hmmm is there an OID to use for private usage, like everyone that knows this objectclass will never leave the organization should use OID 1.1.2.2.1
[18:06] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #258353 in bacula (universe) "package bacula-director-pgsql 2.4.2-1ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: Unterprozess post-installation script gab den Fehlerwert 2 zurück" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/258353
[18:43] <leonel>  intrepid  feature freeze is on 18 aug .. that means  no more new packages right ?
[18:44] <leonel> so ...  no django 1.0 in intrepid ..  it get released on sept 2 ..
[18:44] <sommer> leonel: it's actually on the 28th... it's just number 18 in the list
[18:45] <sommer> at least that's the way I read the table :)
[18:46] <leonel> right .. but no  django 1.0  for intrepid ??
[18:47] <sommer> not sure, you might ask the last person to update the package
[18:47]  * sommer thought there was some type of exception process
[18:48] <sommer> leonel: you might give this a read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess
[18:48] <leonel> sommer: thanks
[18:48] <sommer> np
[19:23] <kaushal> hi
[19:23] <kaushal> I have configured openvpn client using Network Manager on Ubuntu 8.04 Linux Desktop, The issue is that I need to add sudo ip route add 10.0.0.0/8 via 10.10.50.12 dev tap0 every time whenever i need to connect to openvpn server
[19:23] <kaushal> any clue
[19:27] <K4k> I'm having difficulty with the motd on my server, it seems to be showing up twice when I login via ssh, and I have no idea why
[19:28] <K4k> I found a forum thread saying that it could be that bootmisc.sh is cating together motd with motd.tail and if .tail had the same message as motd it would cause it
[19:29] <K4k> but I checked it and then re-ran the bootmisc script and then re-logged in but it didn't help
[19:30] <ArtimusDeathhole> hey peeps.  I finally got my LSI SAS3081E-R HBA's, as per suggestion int he channel
[19:31] <ArtimusDeathhole> I am reading through modload to load the driver and I am having trouble finding the module itself.   I have checked under /lib/kernel/drv/amd64 as the man page mentioned, but it isnt in there.   I know that the SUNWlsimega is installed, but what should I be looking for?
[19:32] <ArtimusDeathhole> im sorry that was /usr/kernel/drv/amd64
[19:34] <ArtimusDeathhole> I may be dumb
[19:35] <zul> oh I think you might want a solaris channel
[19:35] <ArtimusDeathhole> yeah,  I just noticed I popped this into the wrong window
[19:35] <ArtimusDeathhole> my bad
[19:36] <ArtimusDeathhole> <[20:05] <kirkland> zul: ping
[20:05] <kirkland> zul: any chance you can sponsor my fix for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ecryptfs-utils/+bug/258388 ?
[20:05] <uvirtbot`> Launchpad bug 258388 in ecryptfs-utils "ecryptfs-setup-private should protect users from overwriting an existing setup" [Undecided,New]
[20:05] <zul> kirkland: slim chance ;)
[20:06] <zul> kirkland: are all of these patches going back into debian so we dont carry them for intrepid+1?
[20:06] <kirkland> zul: they're going back to the upstream git tree
[20:06] <kirkland> zul: and yes, the debian maintainer is taking them
[20:07] <zul> kirkland: nifty thats what I like to hear
[20:07] <kirkland> zul: that's the way i roll 8-)
[20:07] <kirkland> zul: my fixes can be seen applied here: http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/mhalcrow/ecryptfs-utils.git;a=summary
[20:08] <zul> kirkland: your word is good enough for me
[20:08] <kirkland> zul: and i ping the debian maintainer periodically and ask him to sync up to the latest upstream release
[20:08] <kirkland> http://packages.qa.debian.org/e/ecryptfs-utils.html
[20:10] <zul> kirkland: done
[20:11] <kirkland> zul: you rock so much
[20:11] <zul> I know :)
[22:38] <Aquaraptor> Is there a "powered by ubuntu server" logo somewhere? I'd like to put one on my site
[23:42] <Terrasque> Hey. Got a problem with the 8.04 kernel. Upgraded from 6.06, and the server is unstable with the new kernel. Old 6.06 kernel works fine tho