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bdmurray"I can't help you anymore because my other laptop burned down"00:45
bdmurraybryce: https://launchpad.net/~brian-murray/+karma01:23
bdmurraylook at the closeness of actions :)01:23
brycebdmurray: heh, mega karma coming soon01:23
bdmurraynah, not for that01:24
bdmurraySo I've New, Incomplete and Confirmed just Triaged left01:24
bdmurray    ^ done01:24
brycecool01:24
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pwnguinwell triaged is the hard one, no?01:40
brycelol  http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/9371/georgiale1.jpg05:17
tjaaltonhah :)07:01
tjaaltonhmm, fedora has added EXA changes from master to 1.510:25
tjaaltonincludes the glyph cache stuff10:29
tjaaltonheck, I'll try it out10:50
mvotjaalton: so, I have a input driver with emulate-wheel support now, how can I make sure it is enabled? I added it to xorg.conf but it seems to get ignored (or worse, configured after the initial configuration and then it can not get the device grab anymore)12:12
tjaaltonmvo: evdev upstream has support for it, I can backport that12:26
mvotjaalton: I did a backport (well a git snapshot) already12:27
mvotjaalton: I'm just wondering how to activate it now :)12:27
mvotjaalton: oh, I think I have it, so I need to figure out which /dev/input/eventX is my trackpoint and just use that?12:28
mvoyeah, that worked 12:28
* mvo dances with joy12:28
tjaaltonyou could make an fdi file for it and drop it in /etc/hal/fdi/policy12:30
mvonow I just wonder if the inputX number is stable accross reboots12:30
mvooh, that sounds even better12:31
mvowere can I find a example?12:31
tjaaltonyou can for instance match info.product of the device, and <merge key="input.x11_driver.OptionName" type="string">foo</merge>12:32
tjaaltonthen that should add that option for the driver12:33
* mvo nods12:34
mvoI will try that12:34
mvouploading a git snapshot of the evdev driver is probably too risky, right? so I should do a proper backport of the mousewheel stuff12:35
tjaaltonmvo: yes, there was a commit that made ctrl-c close the server, but it's reverted now :)12:36
tjaaltonmvo: also, I should backport the properties stuff, so I can do both12:41
mvotjaalton: will it be possible with the properties stuff to set the mouse-wheel emulation at runtime? or what is it good for?12:42
tjaaltonmvo: exactly12:42
tjaaltonand synaptics support is on the way too12:42
mvois there something that already uses it?12:42
tjaaltonno, it's pretty fresh stuff12:43
* mvo nods12:43
tjaaltonevdev master supports it for the wheel and middlebutton emulation12:43
tjaaltonalso, you can disable devices with it12:43
mvocool12:44
mvoI will play with it after lunch12:44
tjaaltonheh, it needs support in the server, libXi and xinput12:45
tjaaltonI've got it running, but it needs cleanup12:45
Q-FUNKbug #255991 is pending sponsoring to debian/unstable.  once that's done, a sync to intrepid should do it.13:30
ubottuLaunchpad bug 255991 in xserver-xorg-video-geode "xf86-video-geode:  DDC probing broken on GX2/CS5535 since 2.9.0 (patch)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/25599113:30
Q-FUNKhardy-proposed might require some hand-picking to apply the same fix.13:31
mvotjaalton: is it <merge key="input.x11_driver.EmulateWheel" type="bool">true</merge> that then will get picked up?13:34
tjaaltonmvo: might be.. does it work?13:35
mvotjaalton: no :) this is why I was asking13:35
tjaaltonmvo: try "string"13:36
mvoshows up just fine in lshal13:36
tjaaltonoh13:36
* mvo nods13:36
tjaaltonhmm13:36
tjaaltonwell, try anyway:)13:36
jcristauall properties need to be strings in hal13:36
mvoaha, thanks jcristau13:37
Q-FUNKjcristau: could you please sponsor the upload to unstable?13:37
mvohm, no luck with the fdi file13:46
tjaaltonmvo: does the logfile reveal anything?13:47
mvotjaalton: no, unfortunately not, I suspect I set the wrong values, input.x11_driver.OptionName does not match what the keyboard uses (input.xkb.OptionName), but I couldn't find out about it from just peeking over the source13:49
jcristauinput.x11_options.<stuff>13:50
jcristausee config/hal.c in the server13:50
tjaaltonoh right :)13:50
mvojcristau: oh, that sounds like the right one13:50
tjaaltonmy bad13:50
* mvo restarts X to test the changes13:59
mvoI'm a happy man again, thanks jcristau and tjaalton for your help, mouse wheel emulation is working again for me :) I can't life without that :)14:00
tjaaltonmvo: heh, good to hear14:03
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tjaaltonyeah, wacom hotplug works.. input.x11_options.Type has to be set in the fdi file or the driver wont initialize17:17
tjaaltonnow my cheap aiptek works OOTB17:17
tjaaltonupdated wacom-tools uploaded17:37
tjaaltonalso a new version17:37
tjaaltonhmm, unplugging the tablet crashes the server :)17:40
jcristautjaalton: heh17:45
tjaaltonso wacom still isn't hotplug-friendly17:48
jcristaushouldn't be too hard though?17:49
tjaaltonprobably not, I could get a proper backtrace17:49
bdmurraybryce: what should happen with bug 188792 now?  Set it back to triaged and leave the back the same?17:53
ubottuLaunchpad bug 188792 in xserver-xorg-video-ati "Incorrect default resolution with Radeon9200SE and CRT over VGA" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18879217:53
brycelooking18:06
brycebdmurray: yes, but we also will need an Xorg.0.log on that one18:09
bryceI've updated18:09
bdmurraybryce: bug 210414 has only commenter and they've replaced their video card should so can't test is it safe to close?20:55
ubottuLaunchpad bug 210414 in xserver-xorg-video-ati "Extremely slow graphics at rotated 1400x1050 without EXA" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21041420:55
brycebdmurray: yup20:56
jcristauthat title sounds like an 'it hurts when i put a knife in my arm' kind of bug20:56
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brycetjaalton: any problem if I merge debian's current xorg?  I've got that apport stuff to deploy23:16
bryce(still doesn't work right, but seems to be an issue in xserver, not xorg)23:16
tjaaltonbryce: there's 7.4~1ubuntu1 waiting to be uploaded?23:20
bryceyep23:20
brycecommitted to git too23:20
tjaaltonI've somehow missed the memo ;)23:21
tjaaltonnot even in the spam folder23:21
tjaaltonbut yes, looks good23:21
bryceok, uploading23:22
bryceso this change will let people report bugs via 'apport-cli -f -p xorg'23:22
bryceand 'apport-cli -f -p xserver-xorg-video-intel' et al23:22
brycewhich will nicely attach all the files we like to get, easy peasy23:22
tjaaltonI actually thought about a similar approach yesterday, since I was asked to attach all kinds of things to debug an acpi issue23:23
brycealso >in theory< it should also collect these files on X crashes, but this part doesn't work yet - the xserver seems to be trapping SEGV signals pretty thoroughly.  So I still need to sort that out.23:23
brycethere's also a gui tool for the bug reporting, though I don't remember the command23:24
tjaaltonthat the triager should only ask to run one command which then would attach the needed files in the bug. and this is basically it23:24
bryceyep23:24
brycelp #258375 is an example of what we get23:25
ubottuLaunchpad bug 258375 in xorg "testing xorg apport - this bug can be closed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/25837523:25
tjaaltonyeah I saw, neat23:25
bryceit's pretty easy to add/change what's included.  let me know23:26
brycealso, we can have different things attached for different packages, but for now for simplicity I've just make them all identical23:26
bryceI like that it does all the attachments in one comment, rather than each one an individual comment.23:26
tjaaltonindeed23:27
tjaaltonlog.old maybe23:27
bryceok23:27
tjaaltonfor xkeyboard-config bugs 23:27
tjaaltonuh23:27
jcristaubryce: if you start X with -core, it'll abort() instead of exit() in AbortServer(), so maybe that would do what you want?23:28
tjaalton.. setxkbmap -print and xkbcomp :0 -23:28
bryceadded23:31
tjaaltonthanks23:32
brycecommitted but not uploaded; will go in next time xorg is uploaded23:33
tjaaltonyep, that's fine23:33
tjaaltonsigh, xkb-data is a mess23:35
brycejcristau: thanks I'll give that a try directly23:35
jcristautjaalton: i touched it for the first time a few days ago, and... yeah, it is23:36
jcristautjaalton: unfortunately not the right time to clean it up here, with the freeze and all23:37
tjaaltonjcristau: just trying to find out why evdev breaks ABNT (missing keys) :/23:38
tjaaltonpackaging aside ;)23:38
jcristauah. yeah. it's a mess in more than one way23:38
jcristau:)23:38
tjaaltonhum, I think we can close all the "error activating XKB configuration" bugs now23:38
tjaaltonheh, right23:38
brycejcristau: nope23:46
jcristauok :/ dunno how apport's supposed to work, so..23:49
tjaaltonforwarded 255372 upstream23:55
tjaaltonbug 25537223:55
ubottuLaunchpad bug 255372 in xkeyboard-config "[evdev] ABNT2 missing keys" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/25537223:55

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