[01:10] <Bytor4232> Well now this is wierd.
[01:10] <Bytor4232> mplayer doesn't disable gnome-screensaver, but gmplayer does
[01:24] <bassboi> TheSheep, <3 thank u
[02:13] <bsharitt> I just go Xubuntu up and running, and while using firefox, and I just ran into one of the worst user interface quirks I've ever come across. Apparently scrolling up when already at the top of a page(which means over scrolling, which I do, not being a precision scroller) apparently takes you to the previous page. How do I turn off this boneheaded behavior?
[02:14] <bsharitt> Also, this is the first time I've seen this behaviour in Firefox, so that's why I'm asking here, assuming it's a Xubuntu thing
[02:20] <Bytor4232> Hm.
[02:20] <Bytor4232> I'm not able to recreate his problem.
[02:20] <Bytor4232> I have scrolling on both my lappy and my desktop.  Neither go back when I scroll at the top of any pages.
[02:44] <tos> hi all, running 8.04 and using wireless to connect to router.  what can I do to not have to enter the keyring pw each time I first log on?
[04:38] <Genelyk> news of Xubuntu 8.10 alpha 4
[04:38] <Genelyk> ??
[04:39] <cody-somerville> It was released.
[04:39] <bytor4232> Genelyk: Its out.
[04:39] <bytor4232> Genelyk: I have it downloaded.  Haven't burned and played with it yet.
[04:41] <Genelyk> okz
[04:44] <namegame> hmm, I might try it out in a virtualbox
[04:44] <bytor4232> Not a bad idea.
[04:44] <bytor4232> I was going to try it on a machine thats not doing anything.  That might be a better idea.
[04:45] <Genelyk> xD!
[04:45] <bytor4232> Considering my experience with alpha3
[04:45] <Genelyk> goob bye
[04:45] <namegame> I don't have one laying around :P I've got to be safe
[04:45] <bytor4232> Indeed.
[09:25] <RandyboY> I think i have corrupted grub on my machine when ive installed ubuntu on my usb-stick. Can i and if i can hvow do i fix it on my machine? Ive started the machine in the livecd now...
[09:35] <lesshaste> how do you start the ssh service, I can't seem to see it in the menu system
[09:36] <RandyboY> open a console and type sudo sshd
[09:39] <lesshaste> sudo sshd
[09:39] <lesshaste> sshd re-exec requires execution with an absolute path
[09:40] <lesshaste> ah.. then it's already running
[09:40] <lesshaste> so now on to the next problem
[09:40] <lesshaste>  ssh -p 2001 localhost
[09:40] <lesshaste> ssh: connect to host localhost port 2001: Connection refused
[09:41] <RandyboY> then youll have to edit sshd's config to change the default port (22) to whatever
[10:06] <simoo> Hi, how do I get the pictures screen saver to work? I have created a 'Pictures' folder in home but that doesn't seem to be enough
[10:14] <lesshaste> RandyboY, I still can't get this to work
[10:14] <lesshaste> RandyboY, I just want to ssh into a computer S using a computer G as a gateway
[10:15] <lesshaste> RandyboY, I was hoping I could do ssh S 2001:G:22
[10:15] <lesshaste> somehow
[10:15] <lesshaste> and that doesn't do it
[10:15] <lesshaste> help!
[10:28] <Kardoso> hi everyone
[10:36] <lesshaste> hi
[11:24] <yallax_on> join #edubuntu
[11:24] <yallax_on> ack.. forgot a /
[11:29] <yallax_on> i have xubuntu ltsp installed, and added the users to the "fuse" group, when they insert a usb-disk it gets mounted in /media/"username"/usbdisk-sdb1  it seems.. but there is no icon on the desktop or anything.. if i logon locally on the server it works tho.. but how to i fix it so users gets the icon on their desktop??
[11:48] <yallax_on> is nautilus a lot more resource hungry than thunar?
[11:55] <Woo> I finally managed to set up my new hard drive as well as mounting it now, but will it auto-mount now?
[11:55] <Woo> I used this guide
[11:55] <Woo> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/mountlinux
[12:02] <favro> yallax_on: you might have to enable thunars' automount plugin and nautilus is pretty heavy on resources but does alot
[12:02] <favro> Woo: did you add a line to the file /etc/fstab for your harddrive?
[12:02] <yallax_on> thunars' automount plugin ... where do i find that?
[12:03] <Woo> Yes, I did what the guide said only with /dev/sda1 instead
[12:03] <Woo> instead*
[12:03] <Woo> but I had to manually mount it afterwards (like the guide). I haven't tried rebooting.
[12:04] <favro> yallax_on: in thunar - edit - preferences - advanced
[12:04] <favro> Woo: if the line you added is ok it will mount on boot
[12:06] <Woo> Ok
[12:06] <yallax_on> favro: what about that? all options are enabled there
[12:09] <favro> yallax_on: in hardy there's an option there to enable volume management
[12:10] <Woo> I don't really want to try to reboot because I just spent half an hour with the machine might not want to boot again and detect my hard drive. It also resets all BIOS settings now and then, even though the battery is inserted.
[12:12] <yallax_on> favro: yes, its enabled.. and all options after that too.. automount etc
[12:40] <bassboi> :| how do i browse windows networks
[12:41] <favro> !samba | bassboi
[12:46] <bassboi> no app like network neighborhood?
[12:47] <bassboi> because in the name of the share, theres a space
[12:47] <bassboi> idk how to do that in terminal
[12:48] <favro> put it in quotes e.g /path/to/"some file.wat"
[12:52] <bassboi> ok lets see..
[12:53] <bassboi> oh you're a god
[12:53] <bassboi> <3
[12:53] <bassboi> tyvm
[12:54] <yallax_on> I have 3 Ubuntu servers with identical hardware, is it possible to clone 1 of them ..so i can install the same clone on the 2 others?
[12:58] <bassboi> had to smbmount it favro
[12:59] <favro> k
[13:00] <favro> !clone | yallax_on
[13:00] <favro> yallax_on: I use a livecd and dd to do that myself
[13:02] <favro> yallax_on: in system settings - desktop you need to have selected xfce to manage the desktop to get icons
[13:22] <Woo> Hi. I used this guide. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/mountlinux. It worked ok, but now after a few minutes I can't write to my disk again.
[13:22] <Woo> So I'm going to try this again.
[13:22] <Woo> sudo chown -R marie:marie /storage
[13:22] <Woo> sudo chmod -R 755 /storage
[13:23] <Woo> Is it username:password like marie:password or is it username:username like marie:marie?
[13:24] <favro>  username:username like marie:marie
[14:08] <wols_> Woo: it's username:group
[14:08] <wols_> favro: NOT username:username
[14:09] <favro> wols_: for that purpose username was ok
[14:09] <wols_> favro: no
[14:09] <wols_> cause it is not username. no matter how much you insist
[14:09] <favro> wols_: who cares
[14:09] <wols_> we do. we like correct answers
[14:10] <favro> wols_: the user wanted to mount something not get a lesson
[14:10] <wols_> he wanted correct info
[14:13] <Woo> Why is my 60GB hard drive only 52 in Xubuntu?
[14:13] <Woo> I thought Linux gave me the "real" 60GB
[14:15] <Woo> 55GB
[14:15] <Woo> and it uses 800MB for nothing
[14:15] <bytor4232> http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/266963
[14:16] <Woo> You don't have to tell me that bytor
[14:16] <Woo> but I read Linux did not count that way
[14:16] <bytor4232> You read wrong.
[14:16] <bytor4232> All oses read it that way.
[14:16] <bytor4232> Its simple math.
[16:26] <bytor4232> Welcome maxamillion
[16:27] <cody-somerville> :]
[17:10] <jokoon> Hello
[17:11] <jokoon> How can I choose a wallpaper ?
[17:11] <jokoon> I don't understand the current wallpaper is in bold
[17:11] <jokoon> but how can I put another one ,
[17:11] <jokoon> ?
[17:12] <skep> jokoon: Applications->System Properties->Background
[17:13] <jokoon> in xubuntu
[17:13] <jokoon> what applications menu ?
[17:16] <skep> the main menu
[17:16] <skep> top left
[17:16] <Genelyk> Hi
[17:23] <jokoon> hum
[17:23] <jokoon> so there are two way to change a wallpaper in xfce ?
[17:24] <jokoon> I don't see any "background" in system
[17:24] <danielm> right click on the desktop -> Desktop settings
[17:25] <jokoon> I ticked "allow xfce to manage the desktop"
[17:27] <skep> jokoon: and a bit further down you can tick another box for a background image..
[17:27] <jokoon> yes
[17:28] <skep> so there you go
[17:28] <jokoon> but
[17:29] <jokoon> but I can only choose a list
[17:29] <jokoon> not a specific
[17:30] <Mystik_deviant> Hey guys, i was wondering if someone could help me with a problem i have whilst trying to get Xubuntu running
[17:30] <skep> you don't have a file input field (with a button to its right?)
[17:30] <skep> Mystik_deviant: don't ask to ask, just ask
[17:30] <jokoon> yes
[17:30] <jokoon> I can put a list
[17:30] <Mystik_deviant> was kind of my lead in :P Q is comming
[17:31] <Mystik_deviant> i put in the xubuntu CD and it loads through the Xubuntu logo screen but after that i just get a scrambled screen
[17:31] <jokoon> it is a list yes, but how xfce manages a list ?
[17:31] <Mystik_deviant> this happens with Xubuntu, Ubuntu and Kubuntu
[17:32] <skep> jokoon: strange..in my xubuntu i have these list-button below the input field and the single-file button to the right of the input field, where i can choose a single background image
[17:33] <jokoon> mmh I have the powerpc build
[17:33] <jokoon> is it related ?
[17:36] <skep> jokoon: so your setting doesn't look like this? http://www.23hq.com/23666/2872894_ef2d828e103e1a6cd7ae530a9ba45291_standard.jpg
[17:37] <jokoon> mh yes it does
[17:38] <skep> so..do you see the file chooser button right to the input field..click on it..
[17:39] <jokoon> okay...
[17:40] <jokoon> but how does xfce manage the list ?
[17:41] <skep> ok..i thjought you just wanna change the wallpaper and nothing more fance..the other option (list) i never used
[17:41] <jokoon> I was using the list thing
[17:41] <jokoon> but when I edit it I don't know it works
[17:41] <skep> ah ok..my mistake then..
[17:42] <jokoon> no mistake
[17:43] <skep> jokoon: the wallpapers you add to the list are randomly displayed (I guess everytime you boot the pc)
[17:44] <jokoon> okay
[17:44] <skep> jokoon: if you want to change the wallpaper every x minutes or so you can probably check out this old thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=328792
[17:45] <skep> not sure if this works anymore
[17:49] <DarkTan> how do i send a kill command to update manager?
[17:51] <DarkTan> nvm
[18:32] <IronJan> hi. my Laptop got a "LCD Panel 1280x800" but displays only 1280x768. the other part of the screen is out of view and can be "scrolled" to. can i use this feature for higher resolutions?
[18:36] <IronJan> can i use higher resolutions, ie 1440x900, with my lcd (supports 1280x800, shows only 1280x768)
[18:37] <wols_> yes
[18:39] <IronJan> wols_: could you give me some tags to google or an instruction, how to do it?
[18:40] <wols_> IronJan: set the preferred res in your xorg.conf manually
[18:40] <IronJan> wols_: in section "Screen - modes"?
[19:08] <bytor4232> Happenin quittt
[19:10] <quittt> hello
[19:19] <yallax_up> my ltsp users have their home folder in /home/domain/username but all users seems to have read permissions on all their files for everyone.. id like to have permission 0700.. how can i do that automaticly, when a user logs in or his home folder is created?
[19:21] <bytor4232> yallax_on: You "should" be able to change the permissions any time you want, just make sure users can mount the directory over NFS.
[19:22] <bytor4232> yallax_on: You probably will need to change them manually for each user.
[19:22] <bytor4232> Sorry, those messages were meant for yallax_up not yallax_on
[19:22] <yallax_up> how can i do this automaticly.. if say the user havent logged in yet.. and have no home folder created yet
[19:23] <bytor4232> Ah.  For that i'm not sure.  Your going to have to google that.
[19:23] <yallax_up> so every new user get 0700 permission on their home folder
[19:23] <bytor4232> Um.
[19:24] <bytor4232> You could try changing the permissions in /etc/skel to match what you want the username to be.
[19:25] <bytor4232> On linux based servers, /etc/skel is a template that is copied when a new users home dir is created.
[19:25] <yallax_up> username?
[19:25] <bytor4232> no
[19:25] <bytor4232>  /etc/skel is copied to /home/username
[19:25] <yallax_up> all my users are in active directory, but when the user logs in for the first time ..the home folder is created
[19:25] <bytor4232> Who creates that home folder is what you need to find out.
[19:26] <bytor4232> Then find out what that template is, its hsould be etc/skel
[19:26] <bytor4232> Its been about 10 years since I used LTSP
[19:26] <bytor4232> so I'm a little out of the game.
[19:26] <bytor4232> You could check for an #ltsp channel
[19:27] <yallax_up>   /etc/skel/ is empty
[19:27] <bytor4232> Okay, maybe 7 years.
[19:27] <bytor4232> Set the permissions on /etc/skel to 0700 and see if that fixes your problem.  If not, your going to have to go to the #ltsp channel, if there is one.
[19:28] <bytor4232> And there is.
[19:35] <W9ZEB> how would I go about finding the command issued by clicking the "terminal" icon under accessories?
[19:35] <W9ZEB> I'm just now moving to XFCE for the first time from gnome.
[19:48] <bytor4232> W9ZEB: xfce4-terminal
[19:50] <W9ZEB> bytor4232: that does work.
[19:50] <W9ZEB> what's the command for the terminal in gnome.
[19:52] <W9ZEB> actually
[19:52] <W9ZEB> there's no reason not to just use the xfce4-terminal
[20:48] <triaxe> we are on a university, and use xubuntu ltsp servers.. ubuntu/xubuntu seems to set the permission rw-r-r on all new users home folders.. is there a login script or somthing that can set /home/username to rw----(0700) ?
[20:50] <pleia2> triaxe: what you want to change is the umask - do you want to change it globally?
[20:51] <pleia2> to change it globally you change it in /etc/profile
[20:51] <pleia2> for user specific it'll be their .bash_profile file in their home directory
[20:52] <pleia2> all files the user creates will then have the permissions you specify
[21:02] <triaxe> what we have to do now is set permission 755 recursive on /home.. and after that set it to 755 non-recursive
[21:03] <triaxe> but new user inherit the 755 permission ..sadly
[21:04] <triaxe> i tried to set umask 077 on a folder here.. but that didnt change anything
[21:06] <triaxe> so what does umask 077 do? it dint change a thing.. i still have rw-r-r
[21:07] <ieee> hi, i've got a problem, someone know if is there a way to add a partition to thunar, it finds external drive partitions but not internal drive ones, maybe something to do with hal?
[21:08] <ieee> in example, i have an externa usbpen attached when i start the session, and i can see the icon of the pen on the desktop
[21:08] <ieee> is there a way i can do the same thing for internal drives?
[21:49] <psykidellic> Hi, I have Mac OS X and I am trying to create a USB installer for a friend. I believe this will not work on Mac: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2008/05/21/usb-xubuntu-804-persistent-install-from-linux/
[21:50] <psykidellic> What would be the easiest way to create one from Mac OS X?
[21:56] <hardhatpat> what is a good smb browser for xfce?
[21:57] <cody-somerville> pyneighborhood?
[21:57] <cody-somerville> smbfs?
[22:08] <kartoffelmensch> hey i just overwrote my /etc/modules ;(
[22:08] <kartoffelmensch> i know that there were 2 commands in it
[22:08] <kartoffelmensch> can anyone (maybe with a pretty fresh install) tell me which these are?
[22:11] <cody-somerville> fuse and lp?
[22:12] <kartoffelmensch> oh yes
[22:12] <kartoffelmensch> thats it!!
[22:12] <kartoffelmensch> big thanks
[22:12] <kartoffelmensch> can u maybe paste me th #info lines in a query chat ?
[22:12] <kartoffelmensch> so that i wont miss that info someday ^^
[22:12] <cody-somerville> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/37817/
[22:13] <kartoffelmensch> oh thats so kind!! big thank u! :)
[22:14] <cody-somerville> No problem
[22:16] <captain_juno> could someone help me compare xubuntu, xfce, enlightenment, and geubuntu in respect to performance?
[22:21] <kartoffelmensch> xfce is the displaymanager of xubuntu
[22:22] <kartoffelmensch> since it seems that u diddnt know that before
[22:22] <kartoffelmensch> i strongly suggest u to not use enlightment
[22:22] <captain_juno> i did but you can also download xfce seperate on another distro
[22:23] <captain_juno> why not use enlightenment?
[22:23] <kartoffelmensch> how much linux knoledge do u have ?
[22:23] <captain_juno> i'm not the best but I like messing with it
[22:23] <kartoffelmensch> afaik enlightment is like fluxbox openbox blackbox -> very few guis -> very much textwort to set up stuff
[22:24] <kartoffelmensch> i btw never heard of geubuntu
[22:24] <kartoffelmensch> but enlightment should be a little faster than xubuntu
[22:25] <kartoffelmensch> but i have already read different opinions
[22:25] <kartoffelmensch> some say xubuntu runs slower/even with ubuntu, some say fluxbox is the fastest, some say xubuntu runs faster than fluxbox
[22:25] <captain_juno> i'd be willing to learn about enlightenment and how to set it up if it performed better than xfce or xubuntu
[22:26] <kartoffelmensch> i also thought the same way as u
[22:26] <captain_juno> yeah, i hear diff. things all the time that's why i'm having a hard time choosing
[22:26] <captain_juno> what i've narrowed it down to is wanted to use some type of ubuntu whether it's ubuntu with xfce or enlightenment or xubuntu
[22:27] <captain_juno> then i saw geubuntu which has xfce and enlightenment things while based on ubuntu somehow
[22:27] <kartoffelmensch> afaik enlightment is still under developement, id rather choose fluxbox instead of enlightment
[22:27] <kartoffelmensch> since its as lightweight
[22:28] <kartoffelmensch> but u can really really do only few things with guis
[22:28] <kartoffelmensch> its a tough and funny challanenge in the beginning but after a week it cracked me up
[22:28] <kartoffelmensch> and it diddnt even run faster as my xubuntu
[22:29] <kartoffelmensch> and ubuntu has such a big community, if u have a problem many ppl can help u
[22:29] <kartoffelmensch> btw u also might want to try SAM linux or PCfluxboxOS
[22:30] <captain_juno> i also like how ubuntu/xubuntu can just upgrade like you uprade any othe rapp
[22:30] <captain_juno> instead of having to start fresh
[22:32] <kartoffelmensch> what pc do u have? cpu/ram ?
[22:32] <captain_juno> i'll probably just stick with using plain ol xubuntu
[22:33] <captain_juno> well, i plan on making a frankenstein of a computer.  i'm putting a bunch of old computers together so it won't be much
[22:33] <kartoffelmensch> :)
[22:34] <captain_juno> but, even on my better computer that has a gig and an amd 3200 processor, I'd like to use a streamlined distro
[22:34] <captain_juno> i don't want bloat or anything
[22:34] <captain_juno> w/o sacrificing look
[22:35] <kartoffelmensch> yes
[22:35] <kartoffelmensch> same for me
[22:35] <captain_juno> so i guess you're pretty happy w/ xubuntu
[22:35] <favro> I do that with the server cd and fluxbox
[22:36] <captain_juno> what do you do with the server cd and fluxbox?
[22:37] <favro> make a streamlined install
[22:38] <kartoffelmensch> why with the server cd? :o
[22:38] <favro> install a server environment then add fluxbox and apps for a light desktop
[22:38] <kartoffelmensch> can u choose there to not install xfce ?
[22:38] <kartoffelmensch> ah
[22:38] <kartoffelmensch> :p
[22:38] <favro> the install size is small and it has no bloat
[22:39] <captain_juno> so is it the server cd for ubuntu?
[22:39] <favro> yeh - yoy can install xfce or xubuntu-desktop
[22:39] <favro> *you
[22:39] <favro> yes
[22:40] <kartoffelmensch> well but i have to say i just installed hardy and there isnt any software at all except games (that i uninstalled) gimp, a burning app, a video player, mousepad and some other important things :)
[22:40] <captain_juno> will the same programs work on xfce/xubuntu as they do with gnome/ubuntu?  such as openoffice and doing the folding@home stuff?
[22:40] <favro> sure they will
[22:41] <captain_juno> ok, i figured they did but for some reason i thought i saw something that said differently.  thanks for clearing it up though
[22:41] <captain_juno> favro, have you heard of geubuntu?
[22:41] <captain_juno> or opengeu
[22:41] <captain_juno> http://opengeu.intilinux.com/Home.html
[22:42] <favro> I thought it was a google apps ubuntu...
[22:42] <kartoffelmensch> captain_juno: its still 7.10 doesnt seem to get regular updates :o
[22:43] <kartoffelmensch> well maybe regular but seems that they take their time ^^
[22:43] <captain_juno> yeah, it doesn't seem as supported as other distros... esp. ubuntu/xubuntu
[22:43] <kartoffelmensch> yep
[22:43] <captain_juno> at first i thought it was part of ubuntu which made me think it would be good but i guess it's like linux mint which is just based on it
[22:44] <kartoffelmensch> yes
[22:44] <favro> it is a community run distro but still new
[22:45] <captain_juno> well, guys, thanks for your help and i assure you i'll be a reg. on here so hopefully i'll talk to you later
[22:45] <kartoffelmensch> cya ^^
[22:45] <kartoffelmensch> btw: u saw the movie "juno" ? :)
[22:46] <kartoffelmensch> ]-;
[22:55] <Salix_> what is the command word for starting the terminal?
[22:57] <favro> Salix_: xfce4-terminal
[23:01] <Salix_> oh
[23:01] <Salix_> thank you :-)
[23:01] <favro> np :)