[00:01]  * apachelogger is wondering about the point of the khelpcenter gloassary
[00:02] <apachelogger> that is more a proof-of-concept than actually helpful
[02:14] <JontheEchidna> [21:10:16] <JontheEchidna> http://www.megaupload.com/?d=CB1Y0ZFI
[02:14] <JontheEchidna> [21:10:16] <JontheEchidna> http://www.megaupload.com/?d=VABFLDOQ
[02:14] <JontheEchidna> [21:10:27] <JontheEchidna> ^Debs for Jockey PyKDE4 port, please test
[03:48] <JontheEchidna> Oh crap
[03:49] <JontheEchidna> dbus is having a fun time there...
[03:49] <JontheEchidna> that's probably what took my network down 20 mins ago
[03:56]  * JontheEchidna passes out
[12:37] <jtechidna> apachelogger: Uh, whoa, I didn't know they even made proprietary PS/2 mouse drivers...
[12:38] <jtechidna> :P
[12:55] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: I don't think any of the changes I made could cause that bug. Could you check with jocke-gtk if I sent you the deb?
[13:35] <JontheEchidna> bbl
[13:41]  * apachelogger is rofl because of the akademy interviews
[13:50] <jussi01> apachelogger: linkki?
[13:50] <apachelogger> dotti
[13:51] <apachelogger> http://dot.kde.org/1218846507/
[13:51] <ktala> hi, I don't know if this is the best place to ask this (or you are going to kill me after my question ;-))
[13:52] <ktala> I have the ugly arrow-icon in my kubuntu (upgraded from KDE 4.0 to 4.1) and I want to change it
[13:52] <ktala> I want to see the K icon
[13:52] <ktala> how can I do it?
[14:00] <apachelogger> ktala: systemsettings -> appearance -> icons -> oxygen
[14:00] <apachelogger> in fact you should have had that issue in 4.0 as well :P
[14:00] <apachelogger> unless you migrated your KDE 3 configurations just before the 4.1 upgrade
[14:00] <ktala> apachelogger: thanks, I'm going to try it
[14:01] <ktala> apachelogger: That silly things can make somebody mad
[14:01] <ktala> apachelogger: mad = me ;-)
[14:01] <ktala> it works
[14:01] <ktala> thnaks a lot
[14:02] <ktala> apachelogger: it looks more beautiful now
[14:02] <ktala> :-D
[16:01] <apachelogger> configure: error: Ogg support on Linux requires the alsa library
[16:01] <apachelogger> nice
[16:09] <jussi01> apachelogger: libasound-dev ;)
[16:11] <apachelogger> 2-dev
[16:12] <jussi01> huh?
[16:13] <jussi01> there is a libasound2-dev ?
[16:13] <jussi01> is that in intrepid?
[17:06] <apachelogger> vorian: the ff-qt crash must be related to some compile option
[17:06] <apachelogger> either that or the dbg stuff is to be blamed
[17:09] <digistyl3> how do i get the true svn address of this? http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdeutils/ark/
[17:09] <digistyl3> i tried adding that address to that kde svn application, but no luck
[17:10] <apachelogger> svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk....
[17:11] <digistyl3> thanks apachelogger :)
[17:13] <digistyl3> apachelogger: are things like ark developed with kdevelop?
[17:13] <digistyl3> should i use that if i want to test some implementations of new features?
[17:13] <apachelogger> doubtable since there is no kdevelop4 :P
[17:15] <digistyl3> apachelogger: i can't develop kde4 applications with kdevelop3?
[17:15] <apachelogger> I never tried
[17:15] <apachelogger> but not very comfortable
[17:23] <yuriy> apachelogger: there is a kdevelop4, didn't they release an alpha or beta recently too?
[17:24] <apachelogger> that doesn't make it useable :P
[17:24] <yuriy> have you tried? i've been meaning to because kdevelop3 is pretty old and buggy
[18:44] <stefanlsd> Hi guys
[18:44] <stefanlsd> Anyone know anything about libkexif1-dev?  It has a depends on kdelibs4-dev (>= 4:3.4.3-2)  which prevents my update to showimg which wanted libkong4-dev (which no longer exists in intrepid - so moving to the kde4 stuff - libkonq5-dev) which means kdelibs5-dev...
[18:51] <stefanlsd> Or does anyone know if libkonq4-dev will be in intrepid? Or is it only libkonq5-dev?
[19:01] <ScottK-laptop> It's a guess, but I'd guess it's unlikely that KDE3 stuff that's been removed will be added back without a very good reason.
[20:49] <Riddell> hi stefanlsd
[20:49] <stefanlsd> Hi Riddell!
[20:49] <Riddell> kexif and related libraries are a bit broken
[20:49] <Riddell> at least the kde 3 versions certainly are
[20:50] <Riddell> I've not found time to look at them
[20:51] <stefanlsd> Riddell: I am busy attemtping to merge showimg from Debian - but its dependant on libkonq4-dev - which no longer exists in intrepid. I assume this is by design?
[20:53] <Riddell> yes, that's from kdebase which is now kde4 only
[20:56] <stefanlsd> Riddell: mm. So i guess i need to get showimg building with libkonq5-dev (which then needs kdelibs5-dev).  Build depends had libkexif1-dev which doesnt work either yet, but may be fixed by us...
[20:59] <Riddell> stefanlsd: I take it showimg is a KDE 3 app?
[21:00] <stefanlsd> Riddell: I assume so. last update 2006 and is currently built against kde3.   Is it worth trying to get it to work, or just reporting upstream?
[21:01] <Riddell> doesn't sound like it's going to work
[21:02] <stefanlsd> Riddell: kk. thanks for the input. Will ask upstream about kde4 support
[21:03] <stefanlsd> Riddell: Sid must of kept libkonq4-dev, wont this cause a bunch of incompatabilities?
[21:06] <Riddell> stefanlsd: right, they're not changing to kde 4 until after their next release
[21:06] <Riddell> we're essentially following experimental rather than unstable
[21:06] <stefanlsd> Riddell: heh. oki  :)
[22:03] <apachelogger> Oo
[22:03] <apachelogger> I have two bottom panels
[22:03] <apachelogger> and I have no clue how I got them
[22:37] <jussi01> apachelogger: nice work :P
[22:51] <apachelogger> why in  gods name can't people use the KDE cmake macros
[22:51] <apachelogger> aaaaarrrrgh
[22:54] <JontheEchidna> That would cause a severe lack of workarounds
[22:54] <JontheEchidna> (My theory, anyway)
[22:56] <apachelogger> yeah, and I wouldn't kill one stress ball per month
[22:56] <apachelogger> anyway
[22:56] <apachelogger> gtk-qt-engine is building again
[22:57] <JontheEchidna> yay apachelogger
[22:59] <apachelogger> firefox-qt_0.1~hg20080816.2-0ubuntu1~ppa3_i386.deb (24.7 MiB)
[22:59] <apachelogger> that build gotta work
[22:59] <apachelogger> haha
[22:59] <apachelogger> rofl
[22:59] <apachelogger> firefox-qt-dbg_0.1~hg20080816.2-0ubuntu1~ppa3_i386.deb (295.5 MiB)
[22:59] <apachelogger> there we go again :D
[23:00] <apachelogger> <-- master of the way too big dbg packages
[23:00] <JontheEchidna> hehe
[23:00] <jpds> Hmm.
[23:01] <apachelogger> yay
[23:01] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: please testdrive firefox-qt
[23:01] <JontheEchidna> vrm vrm
[23:02] <jpds> sudo apt-get install firefox-qt-dbg
[23:02] <jpds> Need to get 295.5 MiB of archives.
[23:02] <JontheEchidna> yeah, that'd take about half an hour here... lol
[23:02] <jpds> After this operation, 1GB of additional disk space will be used. ;-)
[23:03]  * apachelogger prepares a backport
[23:04]  * JontheEchidna haz no updates
[23:04] <apachelogger> do you have the repo in your list at all? :P
[23:04] <JontheEchidna> hmm
[23:04]  * apachelogger doesn't :P
[23:04] <JontheEchidna> I might have gotten debs of aplg the first time around...
[23:05] <JontheEchidna> aplg.kollide.net
[23:05] <apachelogger> I never put them up there
[23:05] <apachelogger> probably just pasted the url
[23:05] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/16874287/firefox-qt_0.1~hg20080816.2-0ubuntu1~ppa3_i386.deb
[23:05] <JontheEchidna> yeah, you might have
[23:11] <JontheEchidna> lol @ package description
[23:11] <JontheEchidna> "safe and easy web browser from Mozilla"
[23:12] <JontheEchidna> more liek
[23:12] <JontheEchidna> "ZOMG WILL EAT CHILDREN LOLZ"
[23:13] <apachelogger> woah
[23:13] <apachelogger> too cold
[23:13]  * apachelogger is freezing
[23:13] <apachelogger> remind me to never go outside again
[23:14] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: it werx
[23:15] <apachelogger> cool
[23:15]  * apachelogger goes watching tv
[23:16] <apachelogger> I think JontheEchidna will blog as soon as the hardy package is built ;-)
[23:16] <JontheEchidna> I could if you wanted to
[23:16] <apachelogger> well, I don't feel like blogging today
[23:16] <apachelogger> too tired
[23:17] <JontheEchidna> hehe