[00:14] <reboot08> ok im about to try and format xp using qtparted
[00:15] <reboot08> it list 1 with a window logo /dev/sdal ntfs active 55.88 gig which is the same size as xp c drive
[00:16] <reboot08> 2nd thing on list is hidde free space 8 gig
[00:16] <reboot08> should i use partition type linux swap?
[00:17] <Denise> vn
[00:25] <reboot08> oh dear god i dont have enough anxiety meds or beer for this one
[00:27] <jussi01> reboot08: for which partition?
[00:32] <reboot08> when i ran qtparted it listed it displayed on the right 1 dev/sdal ntfs active 55.88gig
[00:33] <reboot08> and 2 a hidden parttion free spave
[00:33] <reboot08> i want to format windows and remove all partitions
[00:34] <reboot08> so i select format partition type linux swap  ?   yes?
[00:34] <Dr_willis> delete the partitions make a new one. of whatever type you want.
[00:35] <Dr_willis> then tell gparted to format it.
[00:35] <reboot08> ntfs is windows right
[00:35] <Dr_willis> you proberly dont want a 55gb swap partition
[00:35] <reboot08> ok
[00:35] <reboot08> delete partition first?
[00:39] <reboot08> says the partition is mounted?
[00:40] <reboot08> still delete?
[00:40]  * reboot08 goes for a klanopin
[00:46] <teamcobra> phew. finally back... and I fixed the apostrophe's in kde :)
[00:46] <teamcobra> I had to choose evdev-handled keyboard in the kde keyboard settings
[00:46] <Dr_willis> reboot08,  you could unmount it.. but if it is going to be deleted.. you could just delete it i guess..
[00:47] <reboot08> i checked un activate
[00:47] <Dr_willis> one normally uses gparteed from a live cd. or unmounts all filesystems on the drive you are working on.
[00:47] <Dr_willis> activate is not the same as mounting I belive.
[00:47] <reboot08> k
[00:52] <Dr_willis> guess he figured it out. :P
[00:53] <Daisuke_Laptop> there's got to be a better option than gtkpod
[00:53] <Daisuke_Laptop> amarok screws up my shuffle's db, rhythmbox is totally useless :\
[01:06]  * genii chases his tail gfor a bit til he gets tired
[01:06] <genii> *for
[01:13] <jtisme> what is the linux command to see how much memory is in my machine from the command line
[01:15] <genii> jtisme: cat /proc/meminfo       gives much info
[01:15] <jtisme> genii, thank you
[01:16] <genii> jtisme: You're welcome
[01:33] <lemon> I've installed ubuntu8.04 ,but I can't get my video card to work properly(8400),how?
[01:36] <jorge_> WTF
[01:36] <jorge_> what is this???
[01:37] <jorge_> is somebody there?
[01:38] <genii> Yes
[01:39] <genii> jorge_: As to your first question, this is the irc channel for support questions of Kubuntu linux
[01:40] <jorge_> and what is this???
[01:41] <jorge_> mn>
[01:41] <jorge_> ?
[01:41] <jorge_> and all of you have kubuntu, right??
[01:42] <jorge_> (I know I sound like a dump, but jajajaj this is the first time i view this applet)
[01:43] <spine55> has anyone tried installing the meanwhile plugin for kopete?
[01:43] <jorge_> mmm not me, have you tried to install intrepid ibex???
[01:44] <spine55> nope what's that?
[01:44] <genii> jorge_: I do not give assistance in private message, also it is considered rude to message someone without asking their consent first. This applet which you are having issues or complications - it is helpful to know for instance the name of it or so, and possibly what problem it is giving
[01:44] <jorge_> oks oks.... sorry sorry
[01:45] <jorge_> you know.... newbies :P
[01:45] <genii> jorge_: No worries :) If you just ask here the question or state your problem, usually someone will try to assist
[01:46] <jorge_> okss, thanks a lot, so this application is like a huge tech support for Kubuntu or any linux distribution?
[01:48] <genii> jorge_: Only for Kubuntu linux. Although because Kubuntu, Ubuntu and Xubuntu have a common core set of programs underneath often the help is useful for all these
[01:48] <aaronwi> how do i kill x server?
[01:49] <genii> aaronwi: From command line or from inside it?
[01:49] <jorge_> I know that XD
[01:49] <aaronwi> command
[01:49] <aaronwi> line
[01:49] <jorge_> you have to type: killall x
[01:49] <aaronwi> says x: no processes killed
[01:49] <jorge_> but! carefull, that is no the only thing that you have to type
[01:50] <Daisuke_Laptop> jorge_: it's usually helpful to tell people that *before* you say "type this"
[01:50] <jorge_> jejeje
[01:50] <jorge_> sorry
[01:51] <aaronwi> i heard somewehre that init 3 does that too?
[01:51] <aaronwi> but ive tried both and still no luck
[01:51] <jorge_> And its suppose that I am an internet tech support for some huge company in EUA
[01:51] <jorge_> aaronwi if you hold on, I can give you a link
[01:51] <jorge_> with the instructions
[01:51] <jorge_> because I did that yesterday
[01:52] <genii> aaronwi: Try sudo /etc/init.d/*dm restart
[01:52] <aaronwi> will that restart x or just kill it?
[01:52] <aaronwi> cuz i just need to kill it
[01:52] <aaronwi> im installing video card drivers
[01:53] <jorge_> yep, nvidia driver??
[01:53] <aaronwi> ya
[01:54] <jorge_> jajaja yeah, I did that yesterday
[01:55] <jorge_> just let me check my webrowser for the web page
[01:55] <aaronwi> now it says i need the libc package
[01:55] <aaronwi> i tried sudo apt-get install libc but it doesnt exist
[01:57] <phpedit> Hallo
[01:59] <Daisuke_Laptop> aaronwi: why install from the site?
[01:59] <Daisuke_Laptop> what card, and is there any particular value you'll be getting from the drivers from nvidia.com rather than the ones that are in the repos?
[02:01] <aaronwi> because i have a newer card and i want the latest drivers
[02:02] <Daisuke_Laptop> define newer
[02:02] <aaronwi> if i try from the package manager it says i might need nvidia-glx-new....but i dont see that one in the list
[02:02] <aaronwi> 8800gts
[02:02] <aaronwi> 320mb
[02:02] <Daisuke_Laptop> !envyng | aaronwi
[02:04] <Daisuke_Laptop> for the *very* latest drivers, enable backports and then install envyng
[02:07] <aaronwi> well i tried installing the nvidia stuff via adept manager....but i dont have the nvidia-settings program listed in the programs menu
[02:08] <Daisuke_Laptop> so install nvidia-settings
[02:09] <Daisuke_Laptop> it's a separate install
[02:11] <aaronwi> is there anything else i need to manually run for this to work?
[02:13] <bdizzle_> how do I get the cube working? I had it once, but I had to reformat and still working on getting compiz to work
[02:14] <Dr_willis> Install compiz, use ccsm tool to enable 4 desktops and the cube effect
[02:14] <bdizzle_> ccsm?
[02:15] <Dr_willis> !ccsm
[02:15] <Daisuke_Laptop> aaronwi: not that i can think of
[02:16] <draik> Does anyone here have issues with firefox loading itself and other sites
[02:16] <Daisuke_Laptop> install envyng, run envyng to install the driver, and i never even mucked about with nvidia-settings
[02:19] <draik> I'm also on 2.6.24-21-generic
[02:21] <DarkTan> how do i get my sound card working in 8.04?
[02:21] <draik> I also seem to be having issues with xsane. Is there an alternative?
[02:23] <bdizzle_> okay, so I sorta got the cube to work, but there is only a front and a back. its missing two sides, plus the caps
[02:26] <uoaphys> hi, I am running a virtualbox on vbox0, my wired ethernet on eth0 (linux host) and they are bridged through br0. I get the ip dynamically from my wireless router: 192.168.1.103 (linux host) and 192.168.1.101 (windows vM). however, I can't pint one from the other and the other from one in command line, can someone help? (My eventual goal is to share a printer via network)
[02:26] <Dr_willis> xsane is a front end to the sane system. there maybe other front ends to SANE
[02:26] <Dr_willis> !sane
[02:27] <Fieldy> hello, how can I install the foldingathome smp-aware client? i tried several searches in adapt to no avail.
[02:29] <Dr_willis> Fieldy,  I think there was a ubuntu wiki page on those clients.. but ive not messed with them in ages.
[02:30] <glen_> Hello :)
[02:30] <glen_> Would someone help me please?
[02:31] <DarkTan> !info sound card
[02:31] <DarkTan> !info sound
[02:31] <DarkTan> ...
[02:31] <glen_> Umm
[02:31] <glen_> So is there any way to actually log onto the root account
[02:31] <DarkTan> yes, but not through the GUI
[02:32] <glen_> aw
[02:32] <glen_> ok
[02:32] <glen_> I'm trying to set my account to root privelages
[02:32] <DarkTan> if you need root acces to run a command, used sudo -i in the terminal
[02:32] <glen_> So I don't have to launch programs from the shell
[02:32] <ubuntu> hola
[02:32] <glen_> is that possible?
[02:32] <DarkTan> you can't as far as i know
[02:32] <glen_> Ok.
[02:32] <glen_> Thanks :)
[02:32] <glen_> oh, one more question:
[02:32] <jose> hola
[02:33] <glen_> Is there any way I can use ubuntu as though it's an actual server, so I can view webpages and run .PHP files??
[02:33] <DarkTan> that would be beyond me
[02:34] <glen_> Ok.
[02:34] <glen_> Anyone else?
[02:34] <glen_> I bet no one's gunna answer me... :(
[02:34] <glen_> Well
[02:34] <glen_> I made some progress
[02:34] <glen_> thanks :)
[02:35] <uoaphys> i think you can install a lamp server on it
[02:35] <glen_> I'm sorry, what's lamp?
[02:36] <DarkTan> what is the command that shows just about every peice of hard ware on the system?
[02:36] <joseA> hola alguien que hable español?
[02:36] <nejode> DarkTan: lshw
[02:36] <nejode> ...sudo lshw
[02:37] <DarkTan> ahh, thank you
[02:37] <nejode> joseA: ve a #kubuntu-es
[02:37] <glen_> can anyone explain to me what lamp is?
[02:38] <DarkTan> lamp? they give light when pluged in and turned on
[02:38] <nejode> linux-apache-mysql-php
[02:38] <glen_> funny
[02:38] <glen_> but thank you
[02:38] <joseA> ok gracias soy nuevo en linux
[02:39] <nejode> joseA: aquí se ponen cómicos si hablas en español
[02:40] <joseA> bueno entonces que se diviertan un rato con migo
[02:40] <nejode> glen: it's for a "turn-key" server with those components
[02:40] <glen_> ok
[02:41] <glen_> I'm just kind of experiementing with kubuntu here so I guess I'll go to the package manager and see what I can download.
[02:41] <nejode> glen: try yakuake
[02:42] <glen_> what does yakuake do?
[02:43] <nejode> glen: do you use the cli a lot?
[02:44] <DuKiSa> hi who to see kde version /
[02:46] <nejode> DuKiSa: do want to know what version of kde you're running?
[02:46] <DuKiSa> nejode yes
[02:46] <DuKiSa> ?
[02:46] <glen_> Lol as you can probably tell I'm a noob in Linux. I'm just trying to learn a little bit about it. I have no clue what cli is.
[02:47] <nejode> cli= command line interface= konsole=terminal...etc
[02:47] <DarkTan> does lshw show my sound card?
[02:47] <nejode> it should
[02:48] <DarkTan> what would it call it?
[02:48] <nejode> DuKiSan: in any window>help menu> about
[02:49] <glen_> Well
[02:49] <glen_> ok
[02:49] <glen_> I'm messing around with webmin
[02:49] <glen_> I'll see if it doesn anything
[02:49] <nejode> DarkTan: look for it under "multimedia"
[02:49] <DarkTan> hmmm....not finding the sound card in there
[02:49] <DuKiSa> nejode,  thanks a lot :)
[02:49] <DuKiSa> who can i upgrade at 4 version ?
[02:51] <nejode> DuKiSa: you can't upgrade, you can install side by side with a diferent session
[02:51] <DarkTan> nope, no multimedia
[02:53] <nejode> DarkTan: did you check out in K menu>system>info center?
[02:54] <DarkTan> well, i actually under xubuntu, but couldn't get any help there
[02:55] <nejode> ¿no sound?
[02:56] <DarkTan> that first word came out as gibberish
[02:59] <DuKiSa> what is default root password?
[02:59] <snarkster> there is nbo root password
[02:59] <DarkTan> there isn'n one
[03:00] <snarkster> we do things using sudo
[03:00] <snarkster> time for dinner ttyl
[03:00]  * DarkTan wants his sound card to work
[03:01] <nejode> DarkTan: use dmesg to see if the kernel recognizes it
[03:07] <DarkTan> hmmm, don't see it
[03:08] <nejode> what sound card is it?
[03:14] <vasilisa> Anyone know if ktorrent has a plugin somewhere that turns torrents off and on periodically? Because doing that seems to get past the bandwidth throttling Comcast is (now illegally) doing
[03:15] <nejode> vasilisa: but there is a way to reduce download speed in ktorrent
[03:16] <vasilisa> nejode: Download speed's not the problem. I cant seed, it turns them off.
[03:17] <nejode> bummer!
[03:17] <vasilisa> *kicks comcast across the room* First time i want the FCC to win
[03:19] <nejode> vasilisa: and if you start and stop it as a cron job?
[03:19] <vasilisa> nejode: Ive never done things like that. is cron a program? *apts*
[03:21] <nejode> it's like programmed tasks in windows
[03:22] <vasilisa> I dont use windows ;) Ive never done those kinds of things. Thats okay, ill look into it. thanks
[03:23] <nejode> vasilisa: are you using kde?
[03:24] <vasilisa> nejode: Yes, i am.
[03:24] <naught101> is there any way to switch between using one screen and using two side-by-side screens without having to restart X?
[03:25] <nejode> vasilisa: try K menu> system>task scheduler
[03:26] <vasilisa> nejode: Im in, and i notice i can select every hour, every day, every 5 minutes. Thats great. But as for commands, thats not so easy since this is a gui ap
[03:26] <nejode> vasilisa: it's the GUI version of cron for KDE>kcron
[03:27] <vasilisa> nejode: That not what i mean, i mean the torrent program is gui
[03:27] <vasilisa> This can open/close files and do stuff like that... but :<
[03:28] <nejode> ...but you can execute the command "ktorrent"
[03:28] <vasilisa> nejode: Hmm... start and restop ktorrent?
[03:28] <Firefishe> kpm is the 'k process manager' gui in kde.  What is gnome's equivalent?
[03:29] <nejode> well, it could be a workaround...
[03:29] <vasilisa> nejode: Nah this wont help. Id do better just having a script to open/close the program over and over
[03:30] <nejode> well, just an idea
[03:30] <vasilisa> tnx
[03:30] <vasilisa> Well maybe i just gotta do this myself
[03:32] <DuKiSa> i have update my kde
[03:32] <DuKiSa> and i have now two version of kde
[03:32] <DuKiSa> what to do ?
[03:34] <nejode> DuKiSa: kde 3 + kde4?
[03:34] <DuKiSa> nejode,  yes
[03:34] <DuKiSa> ?
[03:34] <DuKiSa> what to do ?
[03:34] <DuKiSa> :)
[03:34] <DuKiSa> i don`t restart system mayby i must to restart :D ?
[03:34] <DuKiSa> when i finishing upgrade?
[03:35] <DuKiSa> nejode what to do ?
[03:37] <nejode> DuKiSa: after install finishes, logout and select KDE4 fron the menu en your login screen (kdm)
[03:37] <nejode> *in
[03:51] <glen_> Hey, can anyone give me the command to directly change the owner of a folder/file to my username?
[03:51] <flaccid> !permissions | glen_
[03:51] <flaccid> chmod `whoami` /path/to/file
[03:51] <glen_> ahh thank you
[03:52] <afeijo> dont kubuntu came with vmware server? I need to install a VM machine
[03:52] <flaccid> oops. i mean chown `whoami` /path/to/file glen_
[03:52] <glen_> ok
[03:52] <flaccid> !vmware | afeijo
[03:52] <glen_> does that includ the questes ''?
[03:52] <afeijo> lol thanks
[03:52] <glen_> srry quotes?
[03:52] <glen_> does it include the quotes?
[03:52] <flaccid> glen_: they are backticks. yes.
[03:52] <glen_> Ok, backticks.
[03:52] <glen_> thx.
[03:53] <flaccid> you may need sudo as well glen_
[03:54] <glen_> Thank you.
[03:55] <DuKiSa> who to setup global proxy ?
[03:55] <afeijo> how can I check if I'm runing 64 bits kubuntu version?
[03:56] <baudthief> is there any way to stop firefox clearing the clipboard on exit?
[03:57] <baudthief> really annoying
[03:58] <flaccid> DuKiSa: have a look in kontrol, its in there somewhere
[03:58] <flaccid> baudthief: it shouldn't do so
[03:58] <DuKiSa> flaccid,  where is kontrol ?:)
[03:58] <flaccid> DuKiSa: kcontrol. run it from kmenu -> run command (alt+f2)
[03:59] <glen_> Lol ok is there any way to make a shortcut that will launch a certain program with sudo permissions?
[03:59] <afeijo> whats the command to check my kutuntu version?
[03:59] <flaccid> glen_: what are you trying to achieve?
[03:59] <flaccid> afeijo: lsb_release -a
[03:59] <afeijo> thanks
[03:59] <afeijo> it does not say if is 32 or 64 bits :(
[03:59] <glen_> flaccid: I find myself launching the package manager frequently, so I need sudo permissions.
[04:02] <DuKiSa> flaccid,  that is system monitor :|?
[04:04] <DuKiSa> flaccid,  i can`t find kcontrol :|
[04:04] <flaccid> afeijo: uname -a will show that
[04:04] <flaccid> !sudo | glen_
[04:04] <flaccid> glen_: default user has sudo
[04:04] <flaccid> DuKiSa: you don't need to find it. goto kmenu | run command and type in kcontrol
[04:05] <glen_> flaccid: But then how come everytime I launch Adept Manager it says I will not be able to do anything since I need root privelages?
[04:05] <flaccid> glen_: if you are too lazy to type sudo which is like 5 more chars then you can make a bash alias
[04:05] <flaccid> !adept | glen_
[04:05] <afeijo> Linux feijo-home 2.6.24-19-generic #1 SMP Fri Jul 11 23:41:49 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[04:05] <afeijo> not 64 I supose?
[04:05] <flaccid> because adept should be run under kdesudo for changes
[04:05] <flaccid> afeijo: correct
[04:05] <afeijo> damn
[04:05] <glen_> Lol
[04:06] <afeijo> its simple to update?
[04:06] <glen_> Ya I am lazy
[04:06] <flaccid> afeijo: the linux installed is not 64bit although its possible you have a 64bit processor still..
[04:06] <afeijo> I have a core 2 duo
[04:06] <flaccid> cool
[04:06] <DuKiSa> flaccid,  i go in kmenu but who to run command ;| DUKiSa = noob :(
[04:06] <glen_> And why do you keep sending your bot after me with these little instructions I don't really need?
[04:07] <DuKiSa> ?
[04:08] <baudthief> flaccid: It does :P I copy a URL, exit firefox, try to paste it somewhere and clipboard is empty :(
[04:09] <flaccid> DuKiSa: who to run command?
[04:09] <afeijo> how much improve to use 64 bits linux version?
[04:09] <flaccid> glen_: so you can learn and stop asking questions
[04:10] <DuKiSa> flaccid,  yes i don`t undestend you :|
[04:11] <flaccid> DuKiSa: i don't understand you. on the main panel there is a big K to get to the menu. on this menu is Run Command . you click on it and put in kcontrol
[04:11] <DuKiSa> flaccid,  i don`t have run command kde 4?
[04:12] <flaccid> DuKiSa: this channel is not for kde4 support, see topic
[04:12] <DuKiSa> flaccid,  aup sryy :)
[04:12] <DuKiSa> than
[04:12] <DuKiSa> :D
[04:12] <DuKiSa> then*
[04:12] <DuKiSa> sryy man
[04:13] <flaccid> !enter | DuKiSa
[04:16] <draik> Hello all
[04:28] <Noraa134> Holy shizzle theres a ton of people here O_O
[04:30] <Noraa134> hey, could anyone help me with a graphics driver problem?
[04:31] <Noraa134> I have kubuntu (duh) and My ATI radeon graphics driver isn't working. It's my thoughts that my onboard is being used but IDK I play a game and I get 4 fps when I normally on the same graphics card, get about 40fps
[04:34] <baudthief> onboard wouldn't be used if you're getting a picture from your ATI card
[04:34] <baudthief> however the DRIVER for the onboard graphics might be in use
[04:34] <baudthief> tried disabling it in bios?
[04:34] <Noraa134> I have has someone help my configure my xorg.conf file with no luck. I installed the ati graphics control center but it says that it "it's installed right or isn't there?
[04:35] <baudthief> wha!? o_O
[04:35] <Noraa134> IDK if my bios supports graphics disabling but I havn't tried that, I meant to but forgot. :( (oops! xD)
[04:35] <baudthief> restart and check :P
[04:36] <baudthief> its either soft (through bios) or hard via a jumper on the motherboard
[04:36] <Noraa134> I see
[04:36] <Noraa134> I would need help if I need to use a jumper but other then that I think I can handle it. Please be patiant :( I'm still learning kubuntu :)
[04:36] <Noraa134> I got it about 4-5 days ago :/
[04:37] <baudthief> Heh, unfortunately if it IS a jumper (which would be unusual, unless its an older machine), you'll need to get access to the motherboards manual to locate it
[04:38] <baudthief> its usually as simple as pulling it off though
[04:38] <baudthief> but check your bios, i'm almost positive theres an option in there
[04:39] <baudthief> brb
[04:46] <DuKiSa> hmm where i can found soome games?
[04:46] <DuKiSa> for kubunta :)?
[04:50] <Dr_willis> !games
[04:50] <Dr_willis> a lot of games are in the repos.
[04:53] <Noraa134> Well, I'm back :)
[04:53] <frybye> re: Noraa134 - whats news?
[04:53] <DuKiSa> Dr_willis,  have some game like fodbal manager?
[04:54] <Noraa134> well, my friend scared the living crap outta me and my bios doesn't support it, so bad news?
[04:54] <frybye> DuKiSa: looked at the lists?
[04:54] <DuKiSa> ok
[04:54] <DuKiSa> ;]
[04:55] <frybye> DuKiSa: or you prefer sbdy else look for you perhaps??
[04:56] <Noraa134> brb I'm having some small graphics probs, logging out
[04:58]  * Noraa134 is back
[05:00] <DuKiSa> who to install games?
[05:00] <Noraa134> o.O
[05:00] <Noraa134> how?
[05:00] <DuKiSa> how*
[05:01] <Noraa134> erm, package maneger?
[05:01] <Noraa134> adept?
[05:01] <Noraa134> so, can anyone help me?
[05:01] <Noraa134> I think the problem is that I have two screens and kubuntu doesn't like that :(
[05:02] <Noraa134> whenever I set my setup to two screens, my xorg file messes up and i lose my desktop
[05:02] <Noraa134> :(
[05:02] <Noraa134> cool?
[05:02] <Noraa134> xD
[05:05] <Noraa134> well, darn :( out of 275 people nobody can help me :(
[05:05] <Noraa134> I'll ask again <_<
[05:06] <linuxadmin> ...
[05:06] <Noraa134> I have an ATI radeon graphics card that gets normally 40 fps and gets 4 fps in kubuntu
[05:07] <Noraa134> nobody? :(
[05:07] <Noraa134> I also have two screens
 I don't know. My first guess would be the ATI driver setup /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:09] <Noraa134> well, My friend helped me with the xorg config file for about 3 hours and never got it to work so idk
[05:11] <linuxadmin> Noraa134: There will be a good HowTo for ATI cards on Linux. Perhaps google.com can help.
[05:12] <Guest60601> hi
[05:12] <Noraa134> I've tried that and I've found what I think is a good tut but it's very confusing, only commands, no seperations and no instructions
[05:12] <Noraa134> hullo :)
[05:13] <Guest60601> im new
[05:14] <Dr_willis> Noraa134,  a lot can depend on the exact ati video card and its chipset also.. and the version of the ati (fglrx) drivers being used
[05:14] <Noraa134> ok
[05:14] <Dr_willis> In short.. install the fglrx drivers..  alter the xorg.conf to use Driver 'fglrx'  instead of Driver 'ati' and restart X and hope for the best. :P
[05:14] <Noraa134> hi guest60601 I am too :)
[05:14] <Noraa134> ok lol xD
[05:15] <Noraa134> I'll try :)
[05:15] <Dr_willis> Thers 10000's of pages of docs for the ati stuff out there.. some of them are often old, or out of date. dependign on the versions of the ati/fglrx drivers that ATI  releases.
[05:15] <linuxadmin> Noraa134: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-ati-video-card-in-you-linux-system.html
[05:15] <Guest60601> then how do u change ur name
[05:15] <Dr_willis>  - /nick New2IRC
[05:15] <Noraa134> "/name "your name""
[05:15] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:15] <Noraa134> oh?
[05:15] <Noraa134> meh.
[05:16] <Guest60601> yes
[05:16] <Noraa134> man, your good lunixadmin xD
[05:16] <Noraa134> Thanks :)
[05:16] <Noraa134> oops, linuxadmin* xD
[05:17] <House> hi
[05:17] <Noraa134> hullo
[05:17] <Guest16756> heh
[05:17] <house_> dang
[05:18] <house_> i dont know what do to so im going back on my other websites bye
[05:19]  * Dr_willis dosent know what house wants to do either...
[05:20] <lisandro> hola a todos
[05:20] <Dr_willis> Nachos Bell Grande!
[05:20] <Dr_willis> :P
[05:21] <lisandro> hola a todos
[05:22] <Noraa134> lolwut?
[05:22] <Noraa134> que? xD
[05:23] <house_> back
[05:23] <tekteen> Hi, I am using stunnel to connect to a server with a self signed ssl certificate. How do I get the cert and create a pem out of it so I can authenticate the server when I connect?
[05:24] <house_> huh?
[05:24] <Dr_willis> I havent messed with stunnles much. sorry.
[05:25] <tekteen> my issue is I do not know openssl well enough
[05:25] <tekteen> I think I have the basic Idea
[05:25] <tekteen> but I do not know the command
[05:26] <house_>    i gtg bye ppl
[05:28] <Noraa134> well, brb restart X
[05:30]  * Noraa134 is back <_<
[05:36] <Ashex> I'm migrating from 64-bit back to 32-bit
[05:36] <Ashex> so I'm doing a clean install
[05:36] <Ashex> would I still be able to use dpkg --get-selections to backup my installed applications?
[05:36] <Dr_willis> should be able to.
[05:36] <tekteen> yes
[05:36] <Ashex> I'm not sure, since there are some 64-bit apps installed
[05:37] <Dr_willis> there might be some that are 32/64bit only. but i can only think of a few that are that way
[05:37] <tekteen> then they will not install when you try
[05:37] <Ashex> ok
[05:37] <tekteen> Ashex dpkg is smart ;-)
[05:37] <Ashex> sweet
[05:37] <Ashex> that was my main concern
[05:37] <Ashex> I already backed up my two main config files along with my databases
[05:37] <Dr_willis> I can only think of 1 package off hand thats 32bit only... not sure about any others. :)
[05:39] <Ashex> okay, thanks :)
[05:39] <Ashex> now to do some house cleaning beforehand
[05:40] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. anyone care to see if this video works for them under Linux  http://www.cbs.com/hd/video.php?cid=&pid=7fpAiN51G_YKt_U5AaKKdzGieHRllmLd&category=hd&play=true
[05:40] <Dr_willis> Its a startrek video. it seems cbs.com some times works for me and some times dont.. they have been updating their site.
[05:46] <Ashex> I'm using opera, I see the loading screen then nothing
[05:48] <Dr_willis> Whats odd.. is earlier.. the page hung.. then started playing like 10 min later..
[05:48] <Dr_willis> I think its having some issues going from the 'comercial' to the actual video
[05:49] <Dr_willis> if i right click and hit Play. it flashed a message real fast..
[05:50]  * Dr_willis looks fast as  the message zips by..
[05:50] <Dr_willis> 'install the latest flash player....' it says. :) heh.
[05:50] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. clicked on the button at the bottom that says 'hd' to the left side.. and firefox crashed. :P
[05:53] <Dr_willis> The Lowres videos seem to work. http://www.cbs.com/classics/star_trek/video/video.php?cid=649539296&pid=yuRJ2puFmpfSg6fWnhCZHamorL2iMLrO&play=true
[05:54] <draik> What happens when I enter an app name and then the ampersand?      $ app &
[05:54] <draik> What does that do? What is its purpose?
[05:54] <Dr_willis> & spawns the task to the background.
[05:55] <Dr_willis> Bash Basics. :) job controll
[05:55] <concernedcitizen> anyone tried firefox-qt yet?
[05:55] <Dr_willis> http://www.faqs.org/docs/bashman/bashref_78.html#SEC85      bash job controll..
[05:56] <draik> concernedcitizen: I can't get firefox to work :(
[05:56] <Dr_willis> http://www.bic.mni.mcgill.ca/~dale/helppages/BashGuide/advshell/x5514.html    has some good info on & also
[05:57] <concernedcitizen> draik: gnome-FF or FF-QT?
[05:58] <chipbuddy> i'm triyng to get the ubuntu-minimal thing so i just have a command line. but i run into problems when it tries to install the linux-generic kernel. it just says it can't install it. what could cause this?
[05:58] <draik> AFAIK, firefox and firefox-3.0
[06:00] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. I cant atually find documented what '&' does.. heh.. its sort of hard seraching google for '&'  in a search argument.. perhaps i need to quote it.
[06:10] <draik> Pill kicking in. Time to get some rest. I will research this firefox issue and see if it's something I'm missing/exceeding. My laptops don't have this issue. Go figure. Goodnight all.
[06:11] <concernedcitizen> Dr_willis: & basically just runs the process in the background
[06:13] <FAJALOU> hi i am using smb4k but i keep getting the error "mount error 2 = No such file or directory
[06:13] <FAJALOU> Refer to the mount.cifs(8) manual page (e.g.man mount.cifs)"    now i can then open up nautilus and type in smb://down/Public  and connect right to it... what is up?
[06:18] <Dr_willis> concernedcitizen,  i know. :) i just cant seem to find a bash doc that mentions it ..
[06:22] <Dr_willis> FAJALOU,  You could google for that 'exact' error message and proberly get some hits. Sounds more and more like some sort of authenication/user/password issue.
[06:23] <FAJALOU> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gvfs/+bug/207072   Dr_willis  it's my exact error
[06:24] <Dr_willis> I got no idea what an ADS network even is. :)
[06:24] <pat5star> Dr_willis: ADS = active directory service?
[06:24] <Dr_willis> There have been a lot of issues/work with  the samba 'browsing' of shares with Nautilus and the kde file manager also.
[06:25] <binskipy2u> hey guys, is there a stock kubuntu w/kde 4.1 yet?
[06:25] <unamanic> Dr_willis, & is on line 197 of the bash man page
[06:25] <binskipy2u> dont like installing ubuntu, then adding kde4.1
[06:25] <binskipy2u> or installing 3.5.9 then adding 4.1 aside it
[06:25] <binskipy2u> if i dont have to
[06:25] <FAJALOU> Dr_willis:  so would i be safe to just keep typing it in?  i mean it's not that big of a deal... and could i uninstall smb4k and would all of the other stuff (konqueror) go away too?
[06:26] <Dr_willis> You coudl always mount the thing manually if that works.
[06:27] <FAJALOU> Dr_willis:  i think i will end up doing that,,,, it looks like it is close to a fix
[06:28] <Dr_willis> set up the fstab to do it. odd that its affecting fusesmb also.  All my samba issues seem to have been fixed with the 8.4.1 updates
[06:28] <FAJALOU> Dr_willis:  well i dunno my computer is special ;)  and it says that it affects fuse too...
[06:29] <Dr_willis> Sounds like a deep issue then. :)
[06:29] <joel_> Hello?
[06:29] <FAJALOU> well i could try the patch...
[06:29] <Dr_willis> Jello!~
[06:30] <D3sTiN> lol.....New to Kub....lookin for some info
[06:30] <FAJALOU> and i have proposed turned off Dr_willis so possible the issue
[06:31] <Dr_willis> I do have proposed enabled.
[06:31] <Dr_willis> I live on the edge. :P
[06:31] <FAJALOU> lol well ya proposed messed me up with the bad .20-generic kernel, so i was like you know what; it's not worth it lol
[06:32] <D3sTiN> Is there any suggestion to a type of Sam Spade for Kubuntu?
[06:32]  * Dr_willis wonders what 'Sam Spade' even is...
[06:32] <ubuntu> D3sTiN: Sam Spade?
[06:32] <ubuntu> As in the character?
[06:32] <D3sTiN> spam tracking
[06:32] <Dr_willis> apt-cache search spam
[06:32] <ubuntu> !spam
[06:32] <Dr_willis> I guess..:)
[06:33] <ubuntu> Ha ha of course :)
[06:33] <ubuntu> D3sTiN: So not spam blocking? You just want to track it?
[06:33] <Dr_willis> i let gmail handle the spam filtering for me. I only check my email once a month anyway
[06:33] <FAJALOU> woah Dr_willis so removed smb4k and all of the other kde stuff went too yay!!!
[06:33] <masteredu> hello
[06:33] <masteredu> anyone can help me
[06:33] <D3sTiN> Well....I am trying to setup in Kub as I was in Windows.
[06:33] <Dr_willis> FAJALOU,  :) i rarely remove things.
[06:33] <D3sTiN> Hiyas Master
[06:33] <masteredu> ok
[06:34] <masteredu> my problem is it alltime stands broken translation
[06:34] <masteredu> in dolphin
[06:34] <masteredu> http://gotwig.de/pictures/Bildschirmphoto1.png
[06:34] <FAJALOU> Dr_willis:  i do not have 1000 open gigabytes lol
[06:34] <masteredu> help me pls :D
[06:35] <FAJALOU> Dr_willis:  what is gvjs?
[06:35] <FAJALOU> *gvfs?
[06:35] <D3sTiN> I used tenable Nessus, Sam Spade (trace router) and Angry IP scanner....but being in windows...you are limited.
[06:35] <masteredu> help  me pls :(
[06:35] <Dr_willis> FAJALOU,  the gnome virtual filesystem. a new feature in the latest ubuntu to handle a lot of 'things' under gnome.
[06:36] <FAJALOU> ahhh ok, that's why it's buggy lol
[06:36] <Dr_willis> FAJALOU,  but (i have looked into this issue befor), that dosent explain why it affexts smb4k, or fusesmb. :)
[06:36] <masteredu> can anyone help me??
[06:37] <Dr_willis> FAJALOU,  whichis why i say this seems to be a obscure/deep/weird problem.
[06:37] <D3sTiN> I would love to Master....but I am completely new to linux
[06:37] <FAJALOU> it will prolly get worked out soon
[06:37] <Dr_willis> masteredu,  not even sure what the problem is.. of course I got no idea what 'broken translation' even means.
[06:37] <Dr_willis> FAJALOU,  I recall similer issues since beta testing. :(
[06:37] <FAJALOU> meh it will work
[06:39] <D3sTiN> So apt-cache search spam will offer a trace route option? give dns info also?
[06:40] <Dr_willis> it will show all packagtes that related to spam...  Other then that as a starting place.. i got no other ideas.
[06:40] <hong85> hi
[06:40] <D3sTiN> Thank you Dr.  I will give it a go..Talk to ya l8rz
[06:41] <Captain-Splendid> hi there
[06:41] <Captain-Splendid> i just popped a live cd in and it was loading up when i go tthis msg
[06:41] <hong85> hi captain
[06:41] <Captain-Splendid> ./bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off
[06:41] <Captain-Splendid> err "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off"
[06:41] <Dr_willis> bbl
[06:42] <Captain-Splendid> i googled around and found a solution but the solution just freezes my pc to a blinking _
[06:43] <Captain-Splendid> any suggestions?
[06:53] <Captain-Splendid> anyone?
[06:54] <Dr_willis> Hmm?
[06:56] <Captain-Splendid> i just popped a live cd in and it was loading up when i go tthis msg
[06:56] <Captain-Splendid> err "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off"
[06:56] <Captain-Splendid> i googled around and found a solution but the solution just freezes my pc to a blinking _
[06:56] <Captain-Splendid> any suggestions?
[06:58] <devo>  how would i know if someone has hacked into my computer???
[06:59] <devo>  can anyone tell me, how will i know if someone is/has hacked my computer???
[07:08] <Dr_Willi1> j #ubuntu
[07:14] <Dr_Willi1> Hmm.. setting up a friends Vista box.. went to get Opera.. and IE poped up a security warning. "ie prevented the downloading of binaries from this site" gee.. it dident have any problems with the 12+ OTHER sites ive been gettting junk from. Heh heh.. (i will shut up now)
[07:32] <masteredu> how can i make a Winrar menu in the application section when i will open a file? here is a screen from someone who have it >>> http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/4788/beispielfm6.png
[07:35] <Dr_Willi1> Its possible he installed winrar with wine.
[07:35] <Dr_Willi1> as for somthing on the context menu.. no idea
[07:37] <masteredu> :(
[07:37] <Dr_Willi1> I dont unrar stuff enouhg to worry about having a context menu.
[07:38] <masteredu> but i will look my desktop look pritty
[07:38] <Dr_Willi1> I  am constantly amazed at the amount of effort people put into getting trivial things done. :)
[07:39] <Dr_Willi1> unp whatever.rar   (i think) normally works for me. :) no gui needed
[07:39] <Dr_Willi1> assuminb ya got the rar tools installed.
[07:47] <Captain-Splendid> my nipple is itchy
[07:49] <Dr_Willi1> remove it!
[07:50] <geek_> Dr_Willi1: i also seem to recall unrar integrates with the built in archive manager
[07:51] <Dr_Willi1> Not noticed. :)  i rarely use the gui archive managers
[08:18] <zzl> why won't the kubuntu shipping company accept my disk requests??
[08:33] <clusby> is a kde4 version of guidance-power-manager going to be backported to hardy?
[08:43] <navetz__> how dangerous is it to have a folder on your webserver configured 777?
[08:51] <caba> hi
[09:05] <timme> Moin
[09:06] <Dr_Willi1> exit
[09:31] <bendie> What's up with the font rendering in openjdk? Some days ago, there was an update of the openjdk packages and now the java fonts are always rendered with what seems to be double line height, resulting in very ugly menus, buttons, ...
[09:43] <concernedcitizen> anyone able to get mecurial?
[09:45] <baudthief> any cures for terrible flash video tearing in firefox? (ie: youtube vids, newground animations all tear BADLY)
[09:51] <Dr_willis> cant say that ive noticed that issue baudthief
[09:52] <Dr_willis> given all the otehr bad things i hear about flash on a daily basis... im not suprised however
[10:06]  * baudthief cries
[10:07] <Dr_willis> doex http://www.cbs.com/hd/video.php?cid=&pid=7fpAiN51G_YKt_U5AaKKdzGieHRllmLd&play=true&offset=0&show=all
[10:07] <Dr_willis> work for you baudthief ?
[10:19] <weedar> Where did the "Add Printer"-option go in KDE 4.1?
[10:20] <geek_> weedar: might wanna try te kde4 channel
[10:21] <Dr_willis> i aklwyas seem to use the cups web interface
[10:25] <weedar> geek_: will do, thanks for the tip!
[10:36] <weedar> Can I browse the files on a bluetooth device (nokia n82) in KDE somehow?
[10:38] <Dr_willis> There are bluetooth tools for ubuntu/kubuntu - but i havent used them in ages
[10:38] <Dr_willis> Poor Bluetooth - was supposed to be so popular.. and now its just sort of an afterthought so many times. :(
[10:39] <geek_> lol
[10:39] <geek_> Dr_willis: other than headsets
[10:39] <Dr_willis> You dont want to know the disaster i had getting this oen bluetooth dongle working in windows.. under linux it worked great.. :)
[10:39] <Dr_willis> Ive never gotten a bluetooth headset working in linux. :) just phone file transfers
[10:39] <baudthief> Dr_willis: perpetual loading
[10:40] <baudthief> its actually in an endless loop lol
[10:40] <Dr_willis> baudthief,  yep. cbs.com did somthying that broke their videos in Firefox under linux and windows
[10:40] <baudthief> bastards
[10:40] <Dr_willis> baudthief,  it does work in Opera under windows..  but not Opera in Linux.
[10:40] <baudthief> sounds like user-agent sniffing to me :p
[10:41] <Dr_willis>  it was working the other day.. :) but when i hit 'full screen' it said i needed to update to latest flash..  and im using flash 10 beta. :)
[10:41] <baudthief> where'd ya get flash 10?
[10:41] <Dr_willis> Internet. :)
[10:41] <baudthief> I was just on Adobe's site heh, latest was 9
[10:41] <Dr_willis> Beta stuff
[10:41] <baudthief> Linky please :P
[10:41] <weedar> I did use a bluetooth-tool not too many months ago, I just can't remember what it was
[10:42] <Dr_willis> http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/
[10:42] <baudthief> thanks!
[10:42] <Dr_willis> first hit on google for 'flash 10 linux' :P
[10:42] <baudthief> teaches me to use kubuntu in place of linux "{
[10:42] <baudthief> :P even
[10:42] <weedar> In a more perfect world I'd see the phone and it's memory card automatically mounted in /media after pairing
[10:43] <baudthief> Dr_willis: notice any difference from 9?
[10:43] <Dr_willis> Heck i was lucky to even get the phone pared under windows.. :) and now the windows box has a silly bluetooth devices icon on the desktop i cant remove. :P
[10:43] <Dr_willis> baudthief,  nope.
[10:43] <Dr_willis> baudthief,  most video sites do work for me.. untill recently with cbs that is...
[10:44] <baudthief> sites work for me no problem, its just the annoying tearing artifacts
[10:44] <baudthief> compiz effects / video playback / gaming are all fine, except flash
[10:44] <Hazey> test
[10:45] <Dr_willis> flash seems to becoming the 'universal programing language' that java was ment to be... :()
[10:45] <Dr_willis> constantly seeing little flash applets on sites to do silly trivial things. :) that java used to be used for.
[10:45] <baudthief> dammit... I just installed it, but its still flash9
[10:46] <baudthief> maybe removing the other .so woulda helped ;p
[10:46] <Dr_willis> Yep.. thats the #1 thing the docs say
[10:46] <baudthief> Dr_willis: Yeah, I miss the days of cool java applets :(
[10:46] <baudthief> anfy was awesome
[10:47] <weedar> Nice, I can't even pair the phone with my laptop...This is going to be a long day..
[10:47] <Dr_willis> wowsers - new feature of flash 10 ->  Learn how to read and write local files using File Reference runtime access
[10:47] <baudthief> whoa
[10:47] <baudthief> thats quite a "feature" lol
[10:47] <Dr_willis> weedar,  i rember manually editing some pin file in /etc/
[10:47] <Dr_willis> baudthief,  now how long will it be for the first flash virus. :)
[10:48] <baudthief> bout 3 hours :p
[10:48] <weedar> Dr_willis: aha, I thought that was no longer needed..Guess I'll have to get my hands dirty then, thanks for the pointer ;-)
[10:48] <Dr_willis> weedar,  no idea really   - last i used bluetooth was ages ago
[10:49] <weedar> Dr_willis: That's why I'm so annoyed, I setup/used bluetooth not that long ago...Transferring files (somehow) and contacts (with Kitchensync) between 2 or three phones
[10:49] <geek_> Dr_willis: ooh, plaform independant malware ;p
[10:52] <baudthief> gah, i've been copying ot /usr/lib/firefox instead of /usr/lib/firfox-3.0.1 :P
[10:52] <baudthief> *to
[10:52] <baudthief> *firefox
[10:52] <concernedcitizen> has anyone managed to get hg clone http://hg.mozilla.org/users/vladimir_mozilla.com/mozilla-qt mozilla-qt working?
[10:54] <baudthief> HOORAY!
[10:54] <baudthief> Tearing problem is gone with flash 10 :D
[10:54] <baudthief> Dr_willis: You da man :P
[10:55] <Dr_willis> scary
[10:55] <weedar> baudthief:  Tearing problem? What is that?
[10:56] <Dr_willis> its where the Clothes fall off the people in the videos.... :P
[10:56] <weedar> I noticed that running flash (youtube) in fullscreen is choppy and slow - and I'm even running the nvidia drivers..
[10:56] <baudthief> weedar: Horizontal tearing, visible "lines" that appear in a fast-moving video, when parts of it are out of sync
[10:56] <weedar> Dr_willis: I wouldn't call that a problem
[10:56] <baudthief> Dr_willis: hah :P
[10:57] <Dr_willis> my Poor Wii is still using Flash 7 I think...
[10:57] <Dr_willis> cant watch very many flash video sites with it any more
[10:57] <geek_> XD
[10:58] <weedar> Dr_willis: youtube worked last time I tried..No longer true?
[10:58] <weedar> I'd love for the wii to support flash 9. And pdfs. And mp3s. Also, I want a pony
[10:59] <Dr_willis> Not sure - i normally hit cbs.com and other  sites with full tv shows.. not videos of peopple doing stupid things. :P
[10:59] <Dr_willis> OMFG Ponies!
[10:59] <Dr_willis> :P
[10:59] <Dr_willis> been watching startrek on cbs.com
[10:59] <Dr_willis> faster then trying to find torrents.. heh heh...
[10:59] <geek_> weedar: and DVDs
[10:59] <Dr_willis> but NOW they stopped working under linux, or firefox.
[11:00] <Dr_willis> I hear Wii dvd playback is in the works.
[11:00] <weedar> geek_: agreed
[11:00] <geek_> Dr_willis: no reason it can't handle it
[11:00] <weedar> Dr_willis: cool, looks like cbs has all of ST:TOS online?
[11:00]  * geek_ wouldn't mind trying to convince his parents to get one as a media center ;p
[11:01] <Dr_willis> weedar,  3 seasons last i looked.. i dont even know how many seasons there are.. and they have some 'remastereed/highdef' eps out also.
[11:01] <Dr_willis> i rarely watch real 'tv' :) all online videos and so forth now a days
[11:03] <weedar> A few years ago I had every ST:TOS and ST:TNG episode, in addition to the movies...I tried bragging about it to a colleague that I overheard liked Star Trek. He replied that he had all of ST:TOS and ST:TNG, plus all the other spin-offs and movies in a cabinet(right word?) in his living room
[11:04] <masteredu> anyone know a Live streaming program for Linux?
[11:04] <masteredu> like wirecast or windows media encoder etc.
[11:04] <Dr_willis> weedar,  i can barely bringmyself to watch the  dreadfull things.. :) but its amuseing  with all the 'bad' science i hear spock spout off...
[11:04] <favro> doesn't vlc stream?
[11:05] <Dr_willis> masteredu,  mythtv can do upnp streaming also.. and vlc can (or its companion vls)
[11:05] <masteredu> dr_willis i mean with subtitle etc.
[11:05] <masteredu> and with webcam controll
[11:05] <Dr_willis> webcam? thats a whole nother bottle of fish oil. :)
[11:05] <masteredu> i mean i to  will send with webcam :P
[11:05] <weedar> Dr_willis: TOS actually only consists of three seasons,so they might be offering the complete show
[11:05] <Dr_willis> weedar,  ok. if  you say so ubernerd. :P
[11:06] <masteredu> can anyone help
[11:06] <Dr_willis> Live Long and Perspire!
[11:06] <weedar> Dr_willis: Wikipedia. The end to all fun discussions,disagreements and arguments
[11:06] <Dr_willis> weedar,  heh.. except those about the validity of wikipedia's facts...
[11:06] <masteredu> ...
[11:07] <weedar> masteredu: You want to stream from your machine/webcam?
[11:07] <masteredu> jeah
[11:07] <masteredu> video livestream
[11:07] <Dr_willis> I dont do much with webcams. sorry
[11:07] <Dr_willis> those things get you in trouble....... :)
[11:07] <masteredu> ?why
[11:07] <Dr_willis> I did have a 'goldfish' cam set up once pointing at my fishtank.. heh
[11:07] <masteredu> i dont will send illigaly stuff :P
[11:08] <masteredu> weedar can you help me?
[11:08] <Dr_willis> I am amazed at how people want to use Instant Messaging/text chat to send videos/voice.. then turn around and use their phones to send text messages....
[11:08] <weedar> masteredu: I was actually looking for something similar a while back, to use a webcam for surveillance. Unfortunately I didn't really find any mature software and I wound up using a windows-application :(
[11:09] <masteredu> ...
[11:09] <masteredu> i allready have try to emulate windows applications for that
[11:09] <masteredu> all dont goes
[11:09] <weedar> Dr_willis: Well, yeah :-) By the way, if you've seen so many eps lately, do you remember one where there was a woman who was a healer, she would absorb the wounds from her patients?
[11:09] <masteredu> i think it will work when i use a flash program
[11:09] <masteredu> in a webbrowser
[11:09] <masteredu> but then the quality lose
[11:10] <Dr_willis> weedar,  i rember that epp. but not seen it  in my watching.. im just up to seson2
[11:10] <masteredu> does it give the Adobe Flash media Live Encoder to for linux?
[11:10] <ktala> hi there, I have upgraded from kde 4.0 to kde 4.1 and I still have the row icon instead of the K icon
[11:10] <ktala> do you know how can I change it?
[11:11] <weedar> Dr_willis: Excellent, then I won't have to browse through season one for nothing,I just want to see that one ep
[11:11] <masteredu> why you upgrade
[11:11] <masteredu> 4 is big buged
[11:11] <masteredu> and alpha
[11:11] <Dr_willis> weedar,  i sortof skipped some . :) if i recognized them..  i found like 3 i had never seen befor.
[11:12] <masteredu> can i emulate apple software?
[11:13] <weedar> masteredu: In theory I think you can use ffmpeg to grab video from your webcam and create a video stream, I never got it working though - the documentation isn't really great and things frequently break in ffmpeg since it's constantly in development
[11:13] <geek_> masteredu: with a full system emulator, yes
[11:13] <weedar> at least it used to be like that, might be more stable and documented now
[11:14] <masteredu> hm
[11:14] <weedar> masteredu: VLC also has some streaming-function, you might want to look into it
[11:14] <masteredu> anyone know a good flash stream broadcaster?
[11:15] <masteredu> and how can i configure that the site think that my PC screen capture is a webcam???
[11:15] <masteredu> how can i fake it?
[11:15] <Dr_willis> Heh.. im not sure that any flash stream could be called good.. :P
[11:15] <masteredu> but its easy and works on many os"s :P
[11:16] <weedar> ffmpeg can convert videos to youtube-like flash files, but you can't perform live streaming, only create from a videofile. AFAIK
[11:17] <masteredu> afaik-..-
[11:17] <weedar> As Far As I Know :-)
[11:17] <masteredu> bad word dont like it :P
[11:18] <weedar> Why? :)
[11:19] <ktala> masteredu: I upgraded because 4.1 is better than 4.0
[11:19] <ktala> masteredu: less bugs
[11:19] <Dr_willis> and 4.1.00000000000000001 will be even better!
[11:19] <Dr_willis> :)
[11:19] <ktala> Dr_willis: :-D
[11:19] <masteredu> i only will use 4 when it is
[11:19] <ktala> Dr_willis: sure...or not ;-)
[11:19] <masteredu> 4.4 or 4.5
[11:20] <Dr_willis> 4.90210  Kde 'hollywood' edition!
[11:20] <ktala> masteredu: I wanted to check how it is and report bugs if I find themo
[11:20] <weedar> On my previous laptop I installed KDE4 when it was beta, and ultimately I could upgrade to 4.1 - but there were plenty visual gitches, like the K-menu having an arrow-icon instead of the K
[11:21] <masteredu> it is very bugy
[11:21] <ktala> so you use KDE 3.5.9
[11:21] <masteredu> lol look what i founded
[11:21] <ktala> weedar: That's my "problem", but I have seen screenshots with the K instead the arrow icon
[11:21] <masteredu> what a fucking good flash encoder streamer :P
[11:21] <masteredu> http://www.onlinelib.de/demos/h264/1500kbit/
[11:22] <masteredu> great quality or?
[11:22] <masteredu> for a flash movie stream
[11:23] <masteredu> hm?
[11:23] <weedar> ktala: Wish I could help you, I didn't find a solution before I got a new laptop and performed a fresh install of Hardy with KDE4 and upgraded to KDE4.1 - Looks good now
[11:23] <Dr_willis> itsd all jerky here masteredu  :) but i am downloading other stuff...
[11:24] <masteredu> why no one programm on linux damn
[11:24] <masteredu> :(
[11:24] <masteredu> no flash streaming encoder live program -..-
[11:26] <weedar> Doesn't live streaming usually use Java or some other technology? I can't think of a single site that offers live-streaming via a flash-solution
[11:28] <masteredu> hm
[11:28] <Dr_willis> Divx/xvid streams?
[11:28] <masteredu> why adobe dont bring out software for linux?
[11:28] <masteredu> Dr willis i will make livestream
[11:30] <Dr_willis> I just want more shows to watch 'legally' on my computer. :)
[11:30] <Dr_willis> all these companies/sites are doing so many annoying things.
[11:34] <weedar> I'd love a site listing all the free/legal places you can see or download movies/shows..Like cbn.com or southparkstudios.com
[11:35] <Dr_willis> There proberly is such sites.. but they get swamped/overshadowed by all the not-so-legal sites :) heh
[11:35] <Dr_willis> That flash-got plugin has a list of a lot of sites.
[11:35] <Dr_willis> Not sure on the legality of any of them.
[11:36] <masteredu> is flash illegaly
[11:37] <Dr_willis> I miss stage6.com :(
[11:37] <masteredu> i to
[11:37] <masteredu> my hentais and animes from there :(
[11:37] <masteredu> :P
[11:37] <kave> aloo
[11:37] <masteredu> hello
[11:37] <Dr_willis> it got so overloaded with the  movie-pirates.. i couldent get my... err.. ok.. so it may bnot of been legal.. :) other videos...
[11:38] <kave_cilegon> r5ttr
[11:40] <weedar> I didn't discover stage6.com until after it closed, or just before.. I have a feeling I missed out on something cool :-)
[11:41] <Dr_willis> Yep.
[11:41] <Dr_willis> It was getting pathic however.. other sites were posting 'links' to the warezed movies that were sort of being hidden/posted on stage6, you had to check the site every day/few hrs to grab a movie befor it got removed.
[11:42] <Dr_willis>  the whole 'channels' of related videos idea got killed off by the huge warez influx.
[11:42] <Dr_willis> Plus they made it a pain to download the videos with decent filenames. :)
[11:43] <weedar> I'm surprised no other site has replaced it, that I know of anyway
[11:44] <Dr_willis> I think any new company would be scared of all the legal issues that would happen.
[11:44] <kreggz> hi, does anyone know how to change your login window to the kde4.1
[11:44] <masteredu> no :P
[11:44] <Dr_willis> kreggz,  sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[11:45] <Dr_willis> and select the one you wish to use
[11:45] <kreggz> cool
[11:45] <kreggz> thanks
[11:45] <masteredu> no problem :P
[11:45] <masteredu> (xD)
[11:46] <geek_> Dr_willis: thats what torrents are for ;p
[11:46] <Dr_willis> geek_,  yep.. but even they get annoying :)
[11:47] <Dr_willis> geek_,  the wife loved watching videos all night long at stage6
[11:54] <MetaMorfoziS> Hi all
[11:56] <MetaMorfoziS> i see that i have /etc/dbus-1/event.d/25NetworkManager
[11:57] <MetaMorfoziS> the qustion is how can i edit /etc/dbus-1 like /etc/rc stuffs
[11:57] <MetaMorfoziS> with sysv-rc-conf
[11:57] <MetaMorfoziS> so if i want to disable it how can i do it in nice way
[11:57] <MetaMorfoziS> ?
[11:58] <Dr_willis> Hmmmmm
[11:58] <Dr_willis> sysv is not the same as that event.d stuff  im thinking...
[11:58] <MetaMorfoziS> yeah
[11:58] <Dr_willis> even tho they are simillary named. (i could be wrong)
[11:58] <MetaMorfoziS> that's why i ask
[11:58] <javier__> hola
[11:59] <Dr_willis> Ive never messed with any of the dbus stuff. or event stuff so cant tell you more
[11:59] <javier__> hello hola bonjour alo guten berg
[12:00] <MetaMorfoziS> :(
[13:04] <acer_> how to detect nokia 6235 as modem
[13:05] <favro> !dialup
[13:49] <sert> yo ppl
[13:57] <chuxxsss> anyone set up enlightenment
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> no sorry
[13:59] <chuxxsss> ActionParsnip how u doing
[14:42] <KenBW2> can anyone give me the reasons they prefer kubuntu over ubuntu?
[14:43] <flaccid> !ot | KenBW2
[14:43] <gleyve> Whats a goodsoftware for downloading youtube like videos?
[14:43] <KenBW2> indeed
[14:45] <flaccid> gleyve: http://youtubedownload.altervista.org/ and http://www.vixy.net/
[14:45] <favro> there is youtube-dl.py
[14:46] <flaccid> !info youtube-dl
[14:49] <WDC> Hey Hey
[14:49] <WDC> How would I go about upgrading my Kubuntu from 6.06 to 8.04?
[14:51] <jussi01> !upgrade
[14:52] <WDC> thanks
[14:54] <WDC> How do I do this? enable the "dapper-updates" repository
[14:56] <DarkWizzard> did anybody use openssl with the command line ?
[14:56] <DarkWizzard> I have a problem
[15:02] <gleyve> favro: how to use youtube-dl ? can you give an example? the command line?
[15:02] <favro> gleyve: sure one min
[15:05] <favro> gleyve: youtube-dl.py -o osxa.flv http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEm61-e7IH8 - that will d/load the file to the dir your in when you type the command
[15:05] <waylandbill> gleyve: yes. since is a python script, then you run it with python on the command line.
[15:09] <gleyve> favro: thankyou..it works
[15:09] <favro> :)
[15:09] <gleyve> the download is fast :)
[15:10] <favro> I think it will use your max rate
[15:10] <richie_> Buenas
[15:10] <favro> nochas
[15:11] <WDC|Away> Hola?
[15:11] <richie24> necesito ayuda para instalar gambas 2
[15:11] <WDC|Away> Yo no ayudo.
[15:11] <gleyve> My ubuntu is not playing audio either videos..I'll restart and I think this could fix it
[15:11] <richie24> como no m e funcionan los repositorios
[15:11] <gleyve> richie24: What's gambas 2?
[15:12] <favro> !gambas
[15:12] <richie24> gambas es una aplicacion para desarrollo de programas en linux usando el lenguaje basic
[15:12] <WDC|Away> en espanol gleyve
[15:13] <richie24> !gambas
[15:13] <favro> a basic programming language gleyve
[15:13] <WDC|Away> I've never heard of it. hmm
[15:14] <favro> !find gambas
[15:14] <richie24> los repositorios no me funcionan por eso me estoy bajando sourceforge gambas 2 .tar.bz2
[15:14] <favro> !info gambas
[15:14] <favro> !info gambas2
[15:15] <richie24> bueno como soy novato quisiera saber como me instalo este paquete en mi ubuntu
[15:15] <waylandbill> I love the acronym it makes... Gambas Almost Means BASic. :-)
[15:15] <favro> hehe
[15:16] <favro> richie24: universe repository
[15:16] <favro> !repos
[15:16] <richie24> no me funcionan los repositorios estoy detras de un proxy isa server
[15:16] <waylandbill> I almost remember using visual basic.
[15:16] <favro> I use rapidq basic now
[15:17] <favro> !es | richie24
[15:17] <richie24> gracias
[15:17] <WDC> Adios richie. Hasta luego
[15:19] <waylandbill> I moved to python and love it.
[15:20] <WDC> waylandbill: Python FTW
[15:20] <WDC> Also, how do I change the resolution in Kubuntu.
[15:21] <abby87> WDC: which version of KDE u using?
[15:21] <WDC> Old
[15:21] <abby87> ooh no idea sorry...4.1 here
[15:22] <WDC> The once in 6.06
[15:22] <WDC> one*
[15:22] <MilitantPotato> WDC run kcontrol
[15:22] <waylandbill> WDC: kcontrol can change the display settings. It can't make it go higher than X is configured for.
[15:22] <WDC> got it thanks
[15:22] <MilitantPotato> I can't check Important security updates in adept, i've rebuilt my sources.lst but it still unchecks inself, any idea what's up?
[15:22] <WDC> Now, how do I update to 8.04? I reasd about it but can't figure it out.
[15:23] <abby87> WDC: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:23] <abby87> MilitantPotato: sudo apt-get update
[15:23] <waylandbill> WDC: the short answer is to do a dist-upgrade, but you want to research if there are any issues so you don't break the system.
[15:24] <WDC> http://pastebin.ca/1174420
[15:24] <MilitantPotato> WDC, open Adept click Fetch Updates, there should be an update distro button at the top
[15:24] <waylandbill> WDC: especially important is to check the ability to jump from dapper to hardy directly.
[15:25] <WDC> nevermind
[15:25] <WDC> I had Adept open. Sorry
[15:25] <abby87> WDC: pgrep apt
[15:25] <abby87> WDC: pgrep dpkg
[15:25] <WDC> It's workin' now
[15:25] <abby87> any1 uses dyndns here?
[15:26] <WDC> abby87: I used to, but haven't gotten around to it on my new computers
[15:26] <abby87> WDC:my hostname doesnt change to the dyndns one
[15:27] <WDC> But does DynDNS work like it is supposed to?
[15:27] <abby87> nopes
[15:28] <WDC> Oh. well then. That's odd
[15:28] <abby87> WDC: my wifi router has support for dyndns built in still my hostname is the one i used while setup
[15:28] <WDC> Please note, that I am a lifetime Windows user, just coming to Linux so, i am a noob
[15:29] <MilitantPotato> WDC, enjoy :)
[15:29] <WDC> So, the settings were saved in the router but it STILL doesn't work?
[15:29] <abby87> WDC: there is nothing as a noob....ppl r just more windows friendly
[15:29] <WDC> MilitantPotato: I'm running VMWare only for linux right now, and honestly have BARELY used Windows in the last week
[15:29] <abby87> WDC: yes settings r saved
[15:29] <abby87> still don't work
[15:29] <WDC> abby87: Well that is quite odd
[15:30] <WDC> abby87: Maybe call the technical support (shudder)
[15:30] <gleyve> anybobdy knows about ie4linux at ubuntu 8.04? is it working ok?
[15:30] <WDC> ie as in Internet Epxlorer?
[15:30] <abby87> WDC: yes i shd
[15:30] <abby87> gleyve: u have wine?? plz check their website
[15:30] <WDC> abby87: I hate giving that solution. :(
[15:31] <abby87> WDC: no its fine
[15:32] <WDC> brb
[15:33] <gleyve> abby87: yes i do have wine. I'll try it. But a guy tahta works with me tolde taht it doesn't work with 8.04
[15:33] <waylandbill> lol. ie4linux site says not to use ie to navigate.
[15:33] <draik> Hello all
[15:34] <gleyve> waylandbill: Unfortunally some websites only works with ie4linux. ensglishtown for example.
[15:34] <MilitantPotato> WDC, check WUBI out
[15:34] <WDC> back
[15:34] <WDC> WUBI eh?
[15:34] <MilitantPotato> WDC: lets you install Ubuntu like a windows application, you won't see the performance hit of using a VM session
[15:34] <MilitantPotato> and you can just uninstall it via add/remove programs in windows.
[15:35] <WDC> Performance hit? What are you talking about?
[15:35] <MilitantPotato> You're running linux while on windows in a VM session right?
[15:35] <waylandbill> wubi just uses a flat file file system located on the windows partition doesn't it?
[15:35] <MilitantPotato> waylandbill: yes
[15:35] <WDC> (K)Ubuntu is fine in VMWare
[15:36] <WDC> So long as you install VMWare Tools
[15:36] <WDC> No VMWare-Tools, bad exp
[15:37] <waylandbill> WDC: it is slower than dual-booting into linux itself even with the vmware tools.
[15:37] <WDC> waylandbill: I guess. I am scared to death of dual booting. I messed up a computer pretty bad that way
[15:37] <draik> I've not used vmware for quite some time. I use virtualbox now. The only thing I've missed has been USB support.
[15:37] <MilitantPotato> WDC, try Wubi, it won't modify your partitions, or nerf windows in any way
[15:38] <WDC> How does the "harddrive" as Ubuntu sees it work in WUBI?
[15:38] <draik> WDC: I dual boot. Yeah, I've made a few issues at first, but I never harmed the HDD or WinXP partition.
[15:38] <MilitantPotato> WDC: It creates a file, and treats that file like a partition,
[15:38] <WDC> Just like VMWare
[15:38] <MilitantPotato> Mounts it sort of like an ISO
[15:38] <waylandbill> WDC: it is a virtual device contained in a flat file.
[15:38] <WDC> hmmm. I will check that out.
[15:39] <WDC> Takes FOREVER to update Kubuntu
[15:39] <abby87> eternity
[15:39] <MilitantPotato> WDC: It's very useful, I've gotten a few people to try linux using it, the great thing is, it gives you access to your hardware directly instead of a VM session
[15:39] <WDC> hmm
[15:39] <WDC> I'm going to check that out.
[15:39] <abby87> wubi is a massive innovation
[15:40] <abby87> and so is kde4
[15:40] <WDC> Also, parelling Kubutu is Ubuntu recently upgraded
[15:40] <WDC> Oh I love KDE
[15:40] <acke> how do i share the default session remote (ie :0)?
[15:40] <abby87> well i guess kde 4 is turning out to be mac killer
[15:40] <WDC> How do yo ulike OpenSuSe?
[15:40] <waylandbill> that's useful (having the os access hardware directly) if you want access to 3d acceleration.
[15:40] <MilitantPotato> My wife likes it
[15:40] <WDC> I just downloaded the image and am about to check it out
[15:40] <abby87> opensuse11 i've heard of it...got it but didt install it..love fedora and kubuntu
[15:40] <masteredu> SUse is with windows working
[15:41] <masteredu> Novel>windows
[15:41] <abby87> howz the suse
[15:41] <abby87> ?
[15:41] <MilitantPotato> I'm not sure I like the packages they have, not as many as in the ubuntu repos it seems, but it's easy to use
[15:41] <masteredu> novell and windows work togehter
[15:41] <WDC> Eww Fedora. I had way bad exp with that. Wouldn't run smoothly, even as a Live CD
[15:41] <MilitantPotato> Suse 11 is pretty slick
[15:41] <masteredu> and novell are the makers from suse
[15:41] <abby87> WDC: no i'm using it fedora really rocks
[15:41] <abby87> WDC: atleas fedora 9
[15:41] <masteredu> suse look at windows and will be like windows
[15:41] <WDC> Oh I had 8
[15:42] <masteredu> how you find Fedora comunity?
[15:42] <masteredu> i find the logo pretty cool
[15:42] <abby87> WDC: fedora 9 has kde4 ...latest gnome version...and u know it is more stable
[15:42] <abby87> i'm a fedora ambassador
[15:42] <waylandbill> acke: do you mean remotely access as in Krfb/Krdc or do you mean enable remote login via kdm?
[15:42] <abby87> the community is really good
[15:42] <WDC> KDE and GNOME?
[15:42] <masteredu> hm
[15:42] <abby87> WDC: fed has both
[15:43] <WDC> abby87: Fedora 9 is pretty good I gues
[15:43] <masteredu> in what things is fedora bether as other distris
[15:43] <abby87> masteredu: no doubt
[15:43] <abby87> i
[15:43] <abby87> i'm using fedora and kubuntu
[15:43] <masteredu> abby , what you mean?
[15:43] <abby87> !fedora
[15:43] <masteredu> hm
[15:44] <abby87> packaging us not as good as debian guys but stability is the core concern of fedora
[15:44] <waylandbill> I wouldn't want to see ubottu have a list of all other distros in existance. :-D
[15:44] <masteredu> i find the adept manager in kubuntu very very bad !
[15:44] <masteredu> o.0
[15:44] <masteredu> dont like it
[15:45] <masteredu> ubottu?=
[15:45] <waylandbill> I prefer apt-get or aptitude via the command line. I haven't used adept in a long time.
[15:45] <abby87> masteredu: adept is a misfit in kde4.1 kubuntu
[15:45] <siegie> abby87: "but stability is the core concern of fedora" euhm they are the testing platform of red hat
[15:45] <abby87> they should have a plasma based package manager
[15:46] <waylandbill> !ubottu | masteredu
[15:46] <abby87> bots i hate em
[15:46] <masteredu> ubuntu dont have a so bad package manager
[15:46] <masteredu> like adept
[15:46] <abby87> but u know wat..in next 10 years ppl wont even look at the os
[15:46] <masteredu> why kubuntu use adept
[15:46] <masteredu> damn
[15:46] <abby87> web 2.0 and cloud computing
[15:47] <WDC> Oh god OpenSuse is pretty
[15:47] <abby87> who cares whether its linux or windows ...everything is in the browser
[15:47] <MilitantPotato> I use synaptic on kubuntu :(
[15:47] <masteredu> i dont like the browser
[15:47] <abby87> MilitantPotato: howz it?
[15:47] <masteredu> i only like the flash of it
[15:47] <masteredu> all other things i hate
[15:47] <masteredu> i hate chatting etc.
[15:47] <MilitantPotato> abby87: I love it, it's quicker and easier to use IMO
[15:47] <abby87> masteredu: tell me who uses thunderbird these days?
[15:47] <masteredu> in browser and its dont stable
[15:47] <WDC> MilitantPotato: hmm
[15:48] <masteredu> abby i don
[15:48] <waylandbill> masteredu: it uses adept to reduce the depedency of gtk libraries. One reason is to get the system on a CD rather than a DVD.
[15:48] <WDC> But DVD hold SO MUCH more
[15:48] <masteredu> but its wrong
[15:48] <WDC> Wow SUSE is tiny. 700MB
[15:48] <abby87> dual layer dvds ftw
[15:48] <masteredu> in the 10 years dont use all webbrowser
[15:49] <masteredu> people sayed 1960 we can fly in 40 jears can we fly? NO!!!
[15:49] <MilitantPotato> WDC: The DVD contains more programs, Ubuntu/Kubuntu also has a DVD/CD choice
[15:49] <WDC> I know
[15:49] <masteredu> jeah
[15:49] <waylandbill> WDC: but bandwidth is expensive. To distribute the base on a CD rather than a DVD saves alot. Other things could be added via apt later based on individual needs.
[15:49] <WDC> masteredu: In your 10 years. lol I'm 13 years old
[15:50] <masteredu> wdc i am to 13
[15:50] <Legendario> hi, whats the difference between the kubuntu 8.04 and the 8.04 KDE Remix?
[15:50] <WDC> masteredu: :O
[15:50] <WDC> masteredu: Are you srs?
[15:50] <waylandbill> Legendario: KDE 4 rather than KDE 3. Note that KDE 4 is not complete yet.
[15:50] <masteredu> legendario the difference is that the normal kubuntu 8.04 have a stable KDE and the kde remix have the very unstable kde 4
[15:51] <masteredu> wdc what you mean with srs?
[15:51] <WDC> serious
[15:51] <masteredu> legendario use the normal kde
[15:51] <masteredu> it is bether for you
[15:51] <Legendario> ok, thanks. i thought kde 4 was ready
[15:51] <masteredu> no it isnt ready xD
[15:52] <masteredu> by me all lags
[15:52] <masteredu> the window switching etc.
[15:52] <WDC> Why did SuSe by default turn of networking. That was odd.
[15:52] <masteredu> and  i have 1,5 gb ram and 2,9 ghz cpu ;)
[15:52] <WDC> I have 3GB of ram, and a 2.4 Core 2 Duo
[15:52] <masteredu> my pc is 2005 old
[15:53] <WDC> With linux it doesn't matter
[15:53] <WDC> This is a laptop, with Win Vista Home Pre
[15:53] <masteredu> loll
[15:53] <masteredu> vista buh
[15:53] <WDC> works fine for me. Honestly
[15:53] <masteredu> but
[15:53] <masteredu> you dont can configure many
[15:54] <masteredu> and you become all time security questions and it will ask and ask and ask you alltime
[15:54] <WDC> true, but I was to lazy to install XP, and to scared to install linux
[15:54] <masteredu> i dont play allot ,only wow and this runs good on wine , so i use linux
[15:55] <WDC> I'm not sure what I like better. Konversation or irssi
[15:55] <masteredu> hm
[15:55] <masteredu> konversation is the standard
[15:55] <WDC> I like irssi's technical look, but Kon's layout
[15:56] <masteredu> use kopete :D :P
[15:56] <WDC> hmmm
[15:56]  * WDC looks up kopete
[15:56] <masteredu> then you have all
[15:56] <masteredu> icq msn jabber etc.
[15:56] <waylandbill> I can honestly say that I have no experience with vista. been running linux for better part of a decade and have no desire to go back.
[15:56] <geek_> masteredu: pfft. standalone IRC clients are somehow better ;p
[15:56] <WDC> I think mIRC blows them all away
[15:56] <WDC> kthxbai
[15:56] <masteredu> use konversation it is stable (by me) :P
[15:57] <WDC> Oh. Kopete is like Digsby for WIn
[15:57] <mike__> hi
[15:57] <WDC> or Pidgin
[15:57] <masteredu> wdc when you like windows and linux use
[15:57] <masteredu> XPLINUX OS xD
[15:57] <WDC> lol
[15:58] <masteredu> (or something)
[15:58] <masteredu> it is a linux based on windows
[15:58] <WDC> masteredu: That seems just to odd.
[15:58] <WDC> masteredu: to out of place
[15:58] <waylandbill> mirc? hmm.. I recall when alot of software was shareware licensed.
[15:58] <WDC> I also like irssi's tab functionality better
[15:59] <WDC> waylandbill: I recall when Bittorrent was free!
[15:59] <masteredu> hm
[15:59] <masteredu> this is funny
[15:59] <masteredu> with wget i download with 300 kb/s with firefox 700 kb/s at the same server
[15:59] <WDC> LOL
[15:59] <WDC> LOL
[15:59] <lunch> my computer fan is really loud, is there something i can do to fix it? it becomes extremely loud after 15 minutes , and i am not even using lots of applications
[15:59] <WDC> Firefox FTW
[16:00] <lunch> ftw=?
[16:00] <WDC> For the win
[16:00] <concernedcitizen> hmmpft. mozilla-qt doesn't work for me
[16:00] <concernedcitizen> :(
[16:00] <WDC> lunch: What processor?
[16:00] <lunch> WDC, celeron 775 pins
[16:00] <WDC> Who built the machine? (Dell, HP, etc)
[16:01] <lunch> WDC, i think, there's a built-in thermo, and it increases spinning rate
[16:01] <waylandbill> masteredu: are you sure one isn't calculated in kb and the other kB?
[16:01] <lunch> WDC, i built it
[16:01] <WDC> lunch: Good job. Just buy a new fan. Your is just noisy
[16:01] <masteredu> waylandbill i mean the kb/s the killobity per second
[16:01] <WDC> lunch: Let me get you a link. Also, Celerons run hot, from my expierience
[16:01] <masteredu> firefox works bether for me
[16:02] <waylandbill> masteredu: some tell kilobits and some kilobytes.
[16:02] <lunch> WDC, that fan came with my celeron cpu when i first buy it. it says recommand using this fan
[16:02] <masteredu> waylandbill i mean the XXX and not the XXXX
[16:02] <masteredu> :P
[16:02] <teiwaz> greetings, could anyone help me figure out why my cifs setup just randomly stopped working?
[16:02] <WDC> lunch: That's your problem. Stock fan
[16:02] <lunch> WDC, it was not like that until i remove 512 mb ram from computer =)
[16:03] <WDC> Why'd ya do that?
[16:03] <WDC> lol
[16:03] <favfro> lunch: is there a wire hitting the fan?
[16:03] <lunch> i needed ram on my other pc
[16:03] <masteredu> who like appel
[16:03] <masteredu> apple :P
[16:03] <WDC> masteredu: NO
[16:03] <lunch> favfro, no wires hitting fan
[16:03] <favfro> k
[16:03] <WDC> lunch: Probably an old fan check this out
[16:04] <lunch> masteredu, i no can afford apple
[16:04] <WDC> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185125
[16:04] <acke> waylandbill:  remote login via kdm
[16:04] <lunch> WDC, ok.  even a year ago, the fan was louder than ordinary fans. but in the last couple months , it became more loud
[16:05] <waylandbill> masteredu: I don't know what you mean by XXX & XXXX. better style of porn?
[16:05] <WDC> I had a fan do that
[16:05] <lunch> much much loud, i no can handle
[16:05] <aanderse> so what's the kde app to connect to the internet? i just switched to kde4 but i'm still using gtk version (wicd)
[16:05] <WDC> Buy a new one!
[16:05] <masteredu> wayland bill -..- you know what i mean
[16:05] <WDC> waylandbill: rofl
[16:05] <lunch> yes, i am looking at your link
[16:06] <lunch> WDC, cooling freezer?
[16:06] <WDC> lunch: It's the makr a nd model
[16:06] <WDC> make and model*
[16:06] <siegie> aanderse: knetworkmanager but its not ported to kde4
[16:06] <lunch> what in the world, this runs on freon?
[16:06] <concernedcitizen> is there anyway to make kubuntu auto unmount any usb harddisk/thumbdrive when disconnected?
[16:07] <lunch> ok
[16:07] <aanderse> >_<
[16:07] <WDC> Okay, screw Microsoft Outook 2007. Evolution time
[16:07] <concernedcitizen> I now have a ton of disk-*/ in /media/
[16:07] <geek_> ewww
[16:07] <waylandbill> acke: have you enabled DMCP? that's the first step
[16:07] <geek_> WDC: last i tried evolution it was quite bad
[16:07] <lunch> WDC, i am using outlook 2007 and thunderbird. evolution better?
[16:07] <masteredu> can anyone help me with private chat pimp my kde right klick menü thatis on the desktop xD?
[16:07] <WDC> geek_: Last I tried Evo it was awesome
[16:08] <geek_> lunch: IMO thunderbird is better than evolution, other than that its got no built in calendering
[16:08] <WDC> lunch: Do you use the calendar in Outlook?
[16:08] <lunch> WDC, it looks like a reactor, with tubes, i think it runs on freons
[16:08] <lunch> WDC, no, i hate calendar. i am using it only because my customer uses it
[16:08] <WDC> lunch: You'll have a cold processor!
[16:08] <WDC> Evo is better
[16:08] <WDC> IMO
[16:09] <masteredu> how can i change and make options in my kde right klick menu ???
[16:09] <lunch> geek_, i never tried evolution, thunderbird have everything i need. so i don't find a need to change/try.
[16:09] <masteredu> how can i change and make options in my kde right klick menu ???
[16:09] <WDC> I'm going to try Kontact
[16:10] <waylandbill> concernedcitizen: usually kde does remove the /media/ entries on device removal. Did you "safely remove" the device in question?
[16:10] <lunch> i was using "windows mail", but the bugga no support imap with filter rules, must use pop3 in order to run filter rules.  so i quit 'windows mail'
[16:10] <aanderse> ok one more question... is there a kde app that is anything like the gnome app "cheese" (takes pictures/video from your webcam)
[16:11] <WDC> lunch: Windows Mail = HORRIBLE
[16:11] <WDC> Outlook is MUCH better
[16:11] <masteredu> outlook is shit
[16:11] <concernedcitizen> waylandbill, no I just plugged it out
[16:11] <WDC> language!
[16:12] <WDC> Which is better Kontact or Thunder?
[16:12] <WDC> for e-mail use
[16:12] <lunch> WDC, i thought the new vista/server 2008 will have better default mail client. i mean, it's so essential to an os.
[16:13] <WDC> lunch: Windows is not so good with the default software
[16:13] <usersam> hi I would like to remove all the packages that were installed when I installed kubuntu-kde4-desktop
[16:13] <waylandbill> concernedcitizen: see if unmounting it first helps. Files may still be in use when you are removing it (and should data be cached you'd be risking corruption)
[16:13] <lunch> WDC, all the things i don't need in outlook , so bloated.
[16:13] <usersam> where can I get a list of these please
[16:13] <usersam> I have looked here http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/kubuntu-kde4-desktop
[16:13] <lunch> WDC, i been using mspaint for so long, i think i am a pro. hahah
[16:13] <lunch> and notepad
[16:13] <WDC> Okay i g2g
[16:14] <usersam> but things like kopete do not appear in the depends list...
[16:14] <WDC> Photoshop = much better. Pirate FTW
[16:14] <WDC> Bye all/
[16:14] <waylandbill> usersam: removing kubuntu-kde4-desktop didn't remove the auto installed packages? you can look at the log files for apt/dpkg to see what packages were installed.
[16:15] <lunch> WDC|Away, photoshop will not run well on my machine. i need to upgrade service pack. but there's no service pack for w2k8
[16:15] <usersam> waylandbill, no it did not. Where are the apt log files found please?
[16:15] <concernedcitizen> waylandbill: unmounting gives me a "its not in /mstab" error
[16:15] <acke> waylandbill: yes now I enabled it in /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc. and restarted kdm, thats it?
[16:15] <waylandbill> in /var/log
[16:16] <lunch> WDC|Away, i install adobe cs3 flash, but flash can't launch
[16:17] <usersam> waylandbill, the term.log file in /apt is empty
[16:17] <acke> waylandbill: btw did i think correct now? i meant to x forward the x session :0 so that i can share the default desktop from the monitor to a vnc client.
[16:19] <waylandbill> acke: if all you want is to share the desktop via vnc, you could use a vnc server run as the user to forward. forwarding vnc via dmcp is quite tricky. I'd recommend google for that. It's not a one or two step process.
[16:20] <waylandbill> usersam: you need to have root privs to view the term.log
[16:21] <usersam> i think the logs are in dpkg
[16:21] <concernedcitizen> :( waylandbill
[16:21] <waylandbill> usersam: did you install that package by dpkg directly?
[16:22] <acke> waylandbill: okay thanks, in ubuntu all you have to do is enable port forward i think, and you have the shared desktop.. but maybe its trickier in kubuntu?
[16:22] <usersam> no using apt. I am getting useful info from the dpgk log
[16:22] <teiwaz> can anyone help me figure out why my cifs setup randomly failed after 6 months, or help me figure out how to mount in fstab with samba without the credentials being plaintext?
[16:22] <usersam> dpkg
[16:23] <waylandbill> acke: I don't know what apps and what configuration ubuntu uses for that, so I'm not sure.
[16:23] <abby87> any good backup tool for kde?
[16:25] <waylandbill> teiwaz: you can specify a credentials file in the fstab that is owned by root and can only be viewed by root to hold the name and password.
[16:25] <waylandbill> abby87: keep is okay.
[16:25] <teiwaz> and samba will take that?
[16:25] <teiwaz> I was using cifs to do just that
[16:25] <teiwaz> but it randomly died
[16:25] <teiwaz> and no one seems to be able to help me with why
[16:26] <abby87> teiwaz: #samba
[16:26] <usersam> Is anyone aware of a list of applications in kubuntu?
[16:26] <teiwaz> so //192.168.2.2/backedup /media/backedup samba uid=0,gid=0,auto,rw,noperm,user,credentials=/etc/fstab_smb_credentials_1 0 0
[16:26] <jhutchins> usersam: It's huge, do you want available apps?  Installed?
[16:26] <draik> I have been having issues with firefox for a week now. It will load in about 3 minutes and freezes at the change of the URL in the address bar. Anyone else having similar issues?
[16:27] <teiwaz> where the credentials file is /etc/fstab_smb_credentials_1 ?
[16:27] <jhutchins> draik: Not here.  Which version, what processor, ram, desktop?
[16:27] <pentarex> can u help me with mounting sda5 pls someone
[16:27] <waylandbill> teiwaz: that looks correct.
[16:27] <jhutchins> pentarex: What do you need beyond sudo mount /dev/sda5?
[16:28] <pentarex> jhutchins: i am new to kubuntu and eveb linux
[16:28] <pentarex> jhutchins: i am new to kubuntu and even linux
[16:28] <pentarex> i will try
[16:28] <concernedcitizen> Kndiswrapper woo
[16:28] <jhutchins> pentarex: man mount will give you more info on what you're doing, and I'm sure there's a gui tool in whatever desktop you're running.
[16:29] <waylandbill> I actually took out firefox 3 and put in firefox 2. It was causing tons of hard drive activity for some odd reason.
[16:29] <usersam> jhutchins, I want to get rid of everything that was installed when I installed kubuntu-kde4-deskto
[16:29] <draik> jhutchins: version: 3.0.1 Processor: p4 3.2 GHz, RAM: 3g, desktop
[16:29] <jhutchins> usersam: You want to fall back to kde 3.5?
[16:29] <pentarex> jhutchins: it says is mounted on home but when i try to create folder its says is forbidden
[16:29] <jhutchins> draik: gnome or kde?
[16:29] <draik> jhutchins: kde
[16:30] <usersam> jhutchins, I want to fall back to gnome :)
[16:30] <jhutchins> pentarex: You've probably mounted it as read-only, or as root.
[16:30] <waylandbill> pentarex: mounted with wrong permissions
[16:30] <pentarex> jhutchins: dunno
[16:30] <pentarex> jhutchins: how to fix it
[16:30] <jhutchins> Hmm...
[16:31] <jhutchins> 1mount | pentarex
[16:31] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> hi guys! anybody?
[16:31] <jhutchins> !mount | pentarex
[16:31] <waylandbill> pentarex: if you unmount it and use 'storage media' in Dolphin/Konqueror, it will mount with correct permissions for a regular user.
[16:32] <jhutchins> draik: Shouldn't be doing that bad then, it's actually a bit faster than 2.0 was.  I would probably consider checking your hard disk.
[16:32] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> i'd like to equilize my audio better, ivegot 5 speakers and a sub-woofer and the sub its too loud. theres no way im able to put its volume down with kmixer. du no any good equilizing program that fits with my prob? thank u
[16:32] <pentarex> waylandbill: i will try w8 a sec
[16:32] <usersam> jhutchins, any ideas?
[16:33] <MilitantPotato> strawbeRRy_fieLd: open a terminal, run 'alsamixer'
[16:33] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> MilitantPotato: yes then?
[16:33] <MilitantPotato> strawbeRRy_fieLd: might help, not too sure, it's worked for me when kmixer hasn't
[16:33] <MilitantPotato> strawbeRRy_fieLd: see if it has a slider that changes the volume of your sub
[16:34] <pentarex> waylandbill: one stupid question : where is system settings its not in start menu wich i call it that K down left
[16:34] <waylandbill> strawbeRRy_fieLd: does the sound card support multiple volume levels?
[16:34] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> kewl thank u
[16:34] <MilitantPotato> strawbeRRy_fieLd: might be named something weird, or incorrect though.
[16:34] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> ill do it in a sec
[16:34] <draik> jhutchins: That's the strange part. It only happens to ff3.0.1  I have been using Opera, but I'm not too happy with it. Everything else seems to be running smoothly with the exception of ff3.0.1.
[16:34] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> MilitantPotato: i only see the same sliders that i see with kmixer
[16:35] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> ivegot a realtek, is there any incompatibility with it?
[16:35] <jhutchins> draik: It's possible you have a corrupted installation, or possibly that some old plugins or configuration from 2.0 are causing problems.
[16:35] <waylandbill> strawbeRRy_fieLd: if you are using a recent kubuntu, system settings is just above "run command" ... you could run Dolphin and click Storage Media.
[16:35] <pentarex> waylandbill: i saw it
[16:36] <draik> jhutchins: I've done reinstalls, user deletions, etc. I've gone ff3.0.1 by itself without any other plugins and still has the same issue.
[16:36] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> waylandbill: sorry what do i need that for?
[16:36] <jhutchins> draik: Odd.  I guess you could file a bugreport.
[16:36] <jhutchins> !puregnome usersam
[16:36] <jhutchins> !purekde
[16:36] <waylandbill> strawbeRRy_fieLd: sorry. I meant that for pentarex.
[16:37] <draik> jhutchins: Where would I file it?
[16:37] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> alright
[16:37] <jhutchins> !bugs | draik
[16:38] <jhutchins>  If you want to remove all !KDE packages and have a default !Ubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome »
[16:38] <usersam> jhutchins, thanks but i _want_ gnome. I want to get rid of KDE
[16:39] <jhutchins> Right, I was just checking the bot, puregnome keyword only works in the #ubuntu channel, output is above.
[16:40] <waylandbill> so much useful info in the bots... now if we could remember the keywords. ;-)
[16:42] <usersam> great thanks
[16:43] <usersam> this is a lesson in why to use aptitude...
[16:48] <romunov> where do i turn of ctrl+2 (to desktop)?
[16:49] <romunov> ah, found it
[17:05] <Ash-Fox> Is there a way to add LSB compliant RPM repositories to Kubuntu?
[17:07] <draik> jhutchins: I have submitted the bug report. Side note: It is very easy to submit a bug report. Kudos to the person/group that put that together.
[17:08] <jhutchins> Ash-Fox: Like what?
[17:08] <Ash-Fox> jhutchins, a RPM repository simply.
[17:08] <jhutchins> Ash-Fox: It would require that the repository supported apt, or you'd have to use rpm.
[17:09] <Ash-Fox> jhutchins, this is making things difficult :/
[17:09] <jhutchins> Ash-Fox: What repository?  What programs are you looking for?
[17:11] <Ash-Fox> jhutchins, this is my own custom repository, where I have LSB compliant packages. The packages work fine under alien etc. under Ubuntu. I don't want to make .deb packages of the same software and stick it on the repository because of space limitations. Considering the binaries are compatible cross distribution.. It's also a bit annoying
[17:12] <draik> strawbeRRy_fieLd: I have not had much luck with fixing the firefox3 issue. Here is the link to the bug...    https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/+bug/258587
[17:12] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> hi draik
[17:12] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> how's it going?
[17:13] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> i'll add a comment right away
[17:14] <Ash-Fox> jhutchins, I'm also not keen on the idea of creating a .deb package that is essentially just a script that downloads the RPMs and installs them. I was hoping there was some kind of native support in apt somewhere to support RPM based repositories.
[17:15] <jhutchins> No.
[17:15] <jhutchins> They're two different systems.
[17:16] <jhutchins> apt doesn't support all the features of rpm anyway.
[17:16] <Ash-Fox> jhutchins, that might be the case but amusingly enough.. There is deb repository support in SuSE thanks to a package.
[17:17] <Ash-Fox> jhutchins, I know these RPMs work fine under Ubuntu already :)
[17:17] <jhutchins> suse's an abomination.
[17:17] <Ash-Fox> Seems I'll have to stick to using a script in .deb package then for the RPMs, shame.
[17:18] <jhutchins> They want to feed off of everybody.  They have to, they don't really have a community, just the paid developers, so they have to leech off of other distros.
[17:19] <jhutchins> Ash-Fox: Since that works better than trying to adapt deb packages to an rpm system, yeah.
[17:19]  * Ash-Fox imagines jhutchins in some kind of NORAD setup monitoring the Internet and then suddenly at one point flailing his arms, "They be stealing our .debs!"
[17:19] <usersam> hi is there a way to install a minimal kde system without all the applications?
[17:19] <jhutchins> Ash-Fox: Nah, I'm a rpm guy from way back.
[17:19] <jhutchins> Ash-Fox: What do you package?
[17:20] <Ash-Fox> jhutchins, in the past, questionable software, software that wasn't in universe and my own software :)
[17:20] <jhutchins> usersam: kde-desktop is the package that pulls _all_ of the desktop, you could try just installing kde and whatever it pulls in.
[17:20] <Ash-Fox> Right now, it's a game I'm working on.
[17:21] <Ash-Fox> usersam, I believe installed kde-base is enough
[17:21] <Ash-Fox> *installing
[17:21] <Ash-Fox> Err, kdebase, no hyphon :)
[17:22] <usersam> Ash-Fox, thanks
[17:23] <Ash-Fox> usersam, that will install a window manager, taskbar, control center, a text editor, file manager, web browser, X terminal emulator
[17:23] <Ash-Fox> And a few other kde specific things that those depend on.
[17:25] <Ash-Fox> jhutchins, I guess it's kind of ironic that I actually do the rpm packaging and most of my testing on a ubuntu system
[17:37] <ForgeAus> trying an andLinux dist-upgrade!
[17:38] <ForgeAus> it'll probably find a way to break andLinux by doing this :) hmm no wait didn't work
[17:39] <ForgeAus> no *-desktop metapackage
[17:46] <drmarwat_> hello
[17:46] <ForgeAus> hey
[17:47] <drmarwat_> i added kde 4.1 repo to synaptic but on reload i get an error
[17:47] <ForgeAus> what kind of error?
[17:47] <drmarwat_> The method driver /usr/lib/apt/methods/ttp could not be found.
[17:47] <drmarwat_> E: The method driver /usr/lib/apt/methods/ttp could not be found.
[17:47] <drmarwat_> what does it mean?
[17:47] <ForgeAus> uh... ooohhh kay... I have no idea
[17:48] <drmarwat_> may be somebody does
[17:48] <drmarwat_> i will wait
[17:48] <drmarwat_> have you tried kde 4.1?
[17:49] <ForgeAus> no kde4 yes 4.1 no
[17:50] <bogdan> #ubuntu-pl
[17:52] <Githzerai> drmarwat_: Your error has nothing to do with 4.1, simply because your error log doesn't point to anything related to 4.1 or it's ppa repo.  /usr/lib/apt/methods/ttp is a part of apt package, i would try first with reinstalling apt.
[17:53] <drmarwat_> thanks, i can try that
[17:59] <pteague> does amarok by default in kubuntu use xine?
[18:03] <house> hi
[18:04] <usersam> Hi i am a gnome user.installed kdebase and compiled kdenlive (a KDE app) It worked fine but I have a GTK looking application. Which part of KDE would deal with rendering the interface? This is how it looks http://img201.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gtkkdenlivebm7.jpg    This is how it _should_ look http://www.kdenlive.org/images/26-06-08.png
[18:04] <house_> uh
[18:05] <house_> theres alot of ppl but there not talking
[18:05] <usersam> hi house
[18:05] <house_> hi
[18:07] <ForgeAus> usersam in kcontrol you can set the gtk theme
[18:08] <ForgeAus> (qtcurve is one that GTK and KDE can share)
[18:08] <bayram> selam ubuntuda masaustundeki simgeleri nasıl komple kuculturuz
[18:09] <Ash-Fox> usersam, are you sure it uses the same QT version as KDE?
[18:09] <Ash-Fox> usersam, actually, if it was a KDE application, it would use the current KDE installation you're using for everything o.O
[18:10] <Ash-Fox> So... It shouldn't have that problem to begin with.
[18:10] <usersam> Ash-Fox, I am a Gnome user using metacity etc
[18:10] <usersam> Not sure if that is clear
[18:10] <usersam> I have compiled this app and it has a gtk look
[18:11] <usersam> i am wondering what kde package to install to enable me to re-compile the app with a qt look?
[18:11] <MasterShrek> running 8.04.1, installed kdmtheme, but i dont know where to change the theme, anyone know?
[18:12] <corigo> anyone know a good image viewer with slide show?
[18:12] <Ash-Fox> usersam, it's using the style every other qt application is using on the system
[18:12] <Ash-Fox> usersam, perhaps you want to install some other qt themes and use something like kcontrol to choose a better one?
[18:13]  * Ash-Fox afks for food
[18:14] <usersam> Ash-Fox, other Qt applications use the usual theme
[18:15] <ForgeAus> I don't know where in Ubuntu you set the style for QT apps
[18:15] <MasterShrek> ah, i think i know how to get it, anyone know how to open the old style kde control center, instead of the new one?
[18:15] <MasterShrek> (not running kde4, but the control panel was different a few versions ago)
[18:16] <ForgeAus> you mean kicker?
[18:16] <ForgeAus> wait or system-settings?
[18:17] <doop> i'm trying to download kubuntu 8.04 but i see 2 of them. 8.04 and 8.04.1
[18:17] <doop> what is the difference
[18:19] <usersam> Perhaps this makes what i am saying clearer http://img159.imageshack.us/my.php?image=examplevz7.jpg at the back you see kdenlive the KDE app which I compiled. To the front you see 2 other KDE apps...
[18:20] <ForgeAus> the .1 one is probably kubuntu remix
[18:21] <ForgeAus> which means it has kde4.1 instead of kde3.5.9
[18:22] <doop> when i cliked on hardy heron it took me to 8.04.1 and that would be odd if it were the remix since kde4 is community supported
[18:24]  * ForgeAus shrugs
[18:27] <BlueAidan> for some reason, ark doesn't have support for zip files.
[18:28] <BlueAidan> if I open the Open File dialog, and have it on the All Supported Types, it doesn't show zip files (and zip files aren't in the drop-down)
[18:33] <doop> anyone had trouble with wireless on 8.04?
[18:37] <usersam> for reference the solution to my problem was apt-get install gtk-qt-engine-kde
[18:41] <mefisto_> BlueAidan: try installing the kde3 version
[18:49] <Cannoli> hi there
[18:49] <Cannoli> im having some issues installing kubuntu
[18:49] <Cannoli> can someone help me pelase
[18:49] <Cannoli> please*
[18:54] <mefisto_> Cannoli: be more specific and someone might be able to help
[18:54] <Cannoli> oh srry
[18:54] <Cannoli> the rror im getting on live cd boot up is
[18:54] <Cannoli> Error when installing :
[18:54] <Cannoli> /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off
[18:55] <mefisto_> so the livecd doesn't boot?
[18:55] <Cannoli> i tried some stuff i found on google but all that happens is it ends up with a blinking underscore
[18:55] <Cannoli> nope
[18:56] <Cannoli> it booted fine on other pcs and i tried vcarious cds that i got from the website but on this pc i get this error
[18:59] <mefisto_> Cannoli: did you try the help info on the cd (by pressing F1, F2, etc)?
[19:00] <Cannoli> no
[19:00] <Cannoli> but i know the problem, i just dont know wht to do with it
[19:00] <Cannoli> its my sata drive
[19:00] <Cannoli> it gave me trouble with xp install too
[19:01] <draik> This may or may not be related, but now my Thunderbird is having loading and non-responsive issues just like firefox.
[19:01] <mefisto_> why do you think it's your hard drive? the livecd should boot even without a hdd installed
[19:02] <Cannoli> cause thts the only thing different between this pcs and all the other pcs i have
[19:02] <Cannoli> this one has sata drive the others have ide
[19:02] <WDC> Hey hey
[19:02] <mefisto_> Cannoli: what about video cards?
[19:02] <Cannoli> nvidia
[19:02] <Cannoli> on both
[19:03] <mefisto_> Cannoli: same nvidia cards?
[19:03] <Cannoli> no
[19:03] <Cannoli> thts diff too
[19:03] <gleyve> I'm tired of my nm-applet asking for password to Keyring
[19:05] <mefisto_> Cannoli: it sounds like X is not loading properly and therefore doesn't bring you to the kubuntu desktop. I would look at the help info on the cd before boot and try different boot options related to video
[19:05] <WDC> Hey Kubuntu is giving me issues starting up. It goes to the Kubuntu screen and the bar is at 100% but it hangs.
[19:07] <Ash-Fox> WDC, hit ctrl + alt + f8 and check the messages
[19:07] <WDC> kk thanks
[19:07] <rasmus> Some body hwo can help me with a problem with firestarter (fire wall)
[19:08] <WDC> Okay it says dlemcoe(myusername) login:
[19:08] <Ash-Fox> WDC, no other messages?
[19:08] <gleyve> I'm tired of my nm-applet asking for password to Keyring
[19:08] <WDC> Ash-Fox: no
[19:09] <Ash-Fox> WDC, what about ctrl + alt + f1 ?
[19:09] <WDC> hold
[19:09] <WDC> Starts again at login
[19:09] <Ash-Fox> WDC, if still nothing, login, then do 'sudo less /var/log/syslog'
[19:09] <Ash-Fox> Then scroll to the end by hitting 'end' and check the messages there.
[19:09] <rasmus> Since i've upgraded to Hardy Firestarter is no longer autostarting.
[19:10] <WDC> hm. Doesn't let me log on
[19:11] <WDC> Ash-Fox: Nevermind I got it
[19:11] <WDC> Ash-Fox: How can I get into the Kubuntu GUI? It's just CLI right now
[19:12] <Ash-Fox> WDC, it's best to diagnose the problem before anything else.
[19:12] <WDC> Well, it said a lot of things
[19:12] <WDC> Let me get a screenshot (VMWare)
[19:13] <mefisto_> rasmus: how was it autostarting before? What did you do to autostart it?
[19:14] <rasmus> Mefisto, after installing it it keept on autostart when i restarted the computer. Since for example amarok behaves in the same way i thought it was natural
[19:15] <WDC> Ash-Fox: http://i35.tinypic.com/2r4ihjq.jpg
[19:15] <draik> How do I use my multimedia keyboard with 8.04? I had it all working with 7.10 and prior, but I have a crash report when I press the Media button (used to launch Amarok). Rew, FF, Play/Pause and Stop buttons work.
[19:15] <rasmus> actually my experience is that almost every program is autostarting as default
[19:15] <mefisto_> rasmus: kde3 or kde4?
[19:15] <Ash-Fox> WDC, I'm pretty sure you didn't scroll to the end like I told you.
[19:16] <Ash-Fox> WDC, anyhow.. I can't see anything there.
[19:16] <rasmus> kde 3
[19:16] <Ash-Fox> WDC, you could type 'startx' to start a itnerface.
[19:18] <WDC> Ash-Fox: It says fatl error, connection lost by peer.
[19:18] <Ash-Fox> WDC, did you setup some firewall recently?
[19:19] <WDC> Ash-Fox: no
[19:19] <drmarwat_> hello
[19:19] <mefisto_> rasmus: I don't know why it isn't autostarting as before upgrade, but you could put a Firestarter.desktop item in ~/.kde/Autostart to make sure it always autostarts
[19:19] <WDC> I recently, though, updated from 6.06 to 8.04
[19:19] <drmarwat_> i need help about installation of kde 4.1 packages on kubuntu, so can somebody help me out please?
[19:19] <rasmus> Mefisto, ok great!
[19:19] <drmarwat_> i used this link to get kde 4.1 packages
[19:19] <drmarwat_> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1
[19:19] <Ash-Fox> WDC, you could try looking in /var/log/Xorg.0.log for errors.
[19:19] <drmarwat_> i have done exactly as mentioned on this link but my kde is still 4.0.3 and not kde 4.1
[19:19] <rasmus> Mefisto, how do i make one of these?
[19:20] <drmarwat_> can somebody guide me what mistake im doing?
[19:20] <WDC> Ash-Fox: Tons and tons of errors
[19:20] <WDC> drmarwat_: Mistake i'm doing?
[19:20] <mefisto_> rasmus: I don't use firestarter so I don't know if that will work for sure, but if it's just a windowed app with a Kmenu entry, it probably will work just putting it in Autostart directory
[19:21] <Cannoli> ok
[19:21] <Cannoli> im hvaing no luck with this error
[19:21] <Cannoli> :(
[19:21] <Ash-Fox> WDC, first error is probably all you need to figure out what's wrong.
[19:21] <WDC> Ash-Fox: okayu
[19:21] <Ash-Fox> Errors start with [E] mind you.
[19:21] <drmarwat_> WDC: so can you help me out?
[19:21] <Ash-Fox> or (EE)
[19:22] <WDC> Okay, (EE) Unable to locate/open config file
[19:22] <WDC> drmarwat_: I don't know. You asked to ask a question.
[19:22] <Ash-Fox> WDC, okay.. That's odd. run: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[19:22] <doop> i just installed 8.04.1 and in adept there's a full upgrade available?
[19:22] <doop> and on top of that I have no title bars so I can't minimize or close anything
[19:22] <drmarwat_> WDC: i did ask, i can repeat if you missed it
[19:23] <Ash-Fox> doop, run 'kwin'
[19:23] <WDC> Ash-Fox: It says conflicting actions
[19:23] <rasmus> mefisto, i found it
[19:23] <Ash-Fox> WDC, does it work after restarting X?
[19:23] <WDC> Ash-Fox: How do I do that?
[19:23] <Ash-Fox> WDC, oops sorry.
[19:24] <Ash-Fox> WDC, err, what? just conflicting actions?
[19:24] <Cannoli> anyone help mewith this error
[19:24] <Cannoli> Error when installing :
[19:24] <Cannoli> /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off
[19:24] <rasmus> Mefisto, but there were no "/root/.kde/Autostart"-folder. I made one, will that work?
[19:24] <WDC> yah, then it gives me the syntax usage
[19:24] <doop> now I can't even type anything wtf
[19:24] <doop> does kubuntu take a step backwards with every interation?
[19:24] <WDC> doop: No
[19:24] <Ash-Fox> doop, it's workign fine for me.
[19:24] <Ash-Fox> WDC, are you sure you typed the command correctly?
[19:25] <doop> it used to work fine for me in 6.10
[19:25] <mefisto_> rasmus: root? it should be under your home dir: /home/your-username/.kde/Autostart
[19:25] <doop> every upgraded has removed something that was functioning fine
[19:25] <doop> first wireless
[19:25] <doop> now no titles and I can't use the keyboard
[19:25] <rasmus> oh, sorry, i missunderstood you ~ ;-)
[19:25] <WDC> Ash-Fox: My bad, I put a space between dpkg and -reconfigure. I got a colorful screen now
[19:26] <Ash-Fox> WDC, it should auto detect your graphic card settings etc. I'll leave you to figure out how to use 'next' :)
[19:26] <WDC> Ash-Fox: I got all that, I just went with the defaults
[19:26] <Ash-Fox> WDC, try 'startx' now
[19:27] <rasmus> Mefisto, i found a file there containing this ""
[19:27] <rasmus> #!/bin/sh
[19:27] <rasmus> sudo firestarter --start-hidden
[19:27] <rasmus> sorry
[19:27] <WDC> "Connection reset by peer on X server"
[19:27] <rasmus> mefisto, should that work? Or is it just strange?
[19:27] <Ash-Fox> WDC.. okay.. what happens when you run just 'xinit konsole' ?
[19:28] <WDC> Ash-Fox: Same error
[19:28] <doop> does anyone else have an option for full upgrade in adept?
[19:28] <WDC> Ash-Fox: I just restarted after Updating
[19:28] <Ash-Fox> WDC, read xorg.0.log again for errors...
[19:29] <mefisto_> rasmus: like I said, I don't use firestarter, but if you type that command in konsole "sudo firestarter --start-hidden" and it starts, then that file should work to start it
[19:30] <WDC> Where was that located again Ash-Fox
[19:30] <rasmus> Mefisto, that worked
[19:30] <rasmus> strange
[19:30] <Ash-Fox> /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[19:30] <rasmus> Well, i have to go. Thanx for help!
[19:30] <Ash-Fox> WDC, you can use the cursor keys to see previous commands.
[19:30] <Cannoli> sorry, im getting this error Error when installing : /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off when i try and boot the live cd, can someone help me get past it? ive tried different meathods off google but i just end up with a blinking cursor
[19:31] <WDC> Ash-Fox: I know, it says "No Drivers Found" ONLY error now
[19:31] <Ash-Fox> WDC, I think I know what happened.
[19:32] <mefisto_> Cannoli: take a look at http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-520713.html
[19:32] <Ash-Fox> WDC, you updated the system components but didn't recompile vmware's drivers for those components.
[19:33] <WDC> Ash-Fox: How do I fix that?
[19:33] <Ash-Fox> WDC, anyhow, if you want a basic system working, do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" again and choose 'vesa' for a driver.
[19:33] <WDC> vesa, got it
[19:33] <gleyve> anybody here have Google-earth on ubuntu ?
[19:34] <Ash-Fox> WDC, I don't remember honestly. I don't generally use vmware usually as a client OS.
[19:34] <Ash-Fox> err use Kubuntu as a client OS
[19:34] <Ash-Fox> I have WIndows running under vmware, not Kubuntu usually :)
[19:34] <Ash-Fox> gleyve, yes.
[19:34] <WDC> Ash-Fox: OH YAH! StartX workeds
[19:34] <WDC> worked*
[19:34] <Ash-Fox> WDC, just follow the same instructions you normally do to install vmware's drivers and it will work again properly
[19:35] <WDC> Ash-Fox: Okay cool thanks!
[19:35] <WDC> YAY!
[19:37] <Ash-Fox> gleyve, if you want google earth, add this repository: deb http://dl.google.com/linux/deb/ stable non-free
[19:38] <doop> how do i get kubuntu to use kwin all the time?
[19:38] <Ash-Fox> gleyve, I believe there is a google earth package there. If there isn't, there is a googleearth-package in multiverse.
[19:38] <Ash-Fox> doop, try restarting your system.
[19:38] <WDC> Hey what's the default password for Kubuntu? It let me log on a second ago, but not noiw
[19:39] <doop> Ash-Fox: when i restart it doesn't save. I have to run the kwin command everytime i start up
[19:39] <gleyve> Ash-Fox: my google earh is not working fine :(
[19:39] <Ash-Fox> doop, that's unusual.
[19:39] <doop> Ash-Fox: yes...
[19:39] <mefisto_> doop: if you don't use compiz/switch off desktop effects, it should use kwin
[19:39] <Ash-Fox> WDC, you create the password when you install kubuntu.
[19:40] <WDC> Ash-Fox: But that password is "wrong" apparently. I JUST logged on with it when I was in CLI
[19:40] <doop> mefisto_: i'm not using desktop effects i don't think but I installed the driver for my nvidia card
[19:40] <Ash-Fox> doop, yes, if you don't use beryl, compiz etc. kwin should start up by default.
[19:40] <Ash-Fox> WDC, check caps lock.
[19:40] <WDC> Ash-Fox: lol no
[19:40] <mefisto_> doop: as far as i know, the choices are either kwin or compiz
[19:41] <doop> Ash-Fox: should i disable the nvidia driver?
[19:41] <Ash-Fox> doop, nvidia driver has nothing to do with special affects.
[19:41] <Ash-Fox> *effects
[19:41] <WDC> When I go su, it doesn't work, but when I go su dlemcoe it DOES work, but no superuser
[19:41] <mefisto_> doop: kde3 ?
[19:41] <Ash-Fox> WDC, make sure your username is correct and that you're typing into the password field.
[19:42] <WDC> I am
[19:42] <Ash-Fox> WDC, if it was just working a moment ago, you're likely just entering the password or username incorrectly some how
[19:42] <Ash-Fox> There is no 'default' password.
[19:42] <Ash-Fox> And you cannot login as root by default either.
[19:42] <WDC> hmm
[19:42] <WDC> su dlemcoe, my username, works but it is not "super" user
[19:43] <doop> Ash-Fox: the desktop effects engine whatever wasn't even installed yet
[19:43] <Ash-Fox> doop, then I suggest you install the entire system properly.
[19:43] <Ash-Fox> A half installed kubuntu system is obviously going to break.
[19:43] <doop> Ash-Fox: I just installed it
[19:43] <doop> like 30 min ago
[19:44] <Ash-Fox> You just told me it wasn't.
[19:44] <doop> huh?
[19:44] <Ash-Fox> 19:43 <doop> Ash-Fox: the desktop effects engine whatever wasn't even installed yet
[19:44] <doop> yea it wasn't. when i opened desktop effects from system or whereever it said not installed
[19:44] <doop> it gave me the option to install it
[19:45] <Ash-Fox> Doop, are you using KDE3 or KDE4?
[19:45] <doop> kde3
[19:45] <doop> i think installing it fixed some things
[19:45] <Ash-Fox> doop, okay. Honestly, I don't know what's up with your system.
[19:46] <doop> Ash-Fox: yea it's all fubared. how would i make katapult run at startup?
[19:46] <mefisto_> doop: how did you get kwin to start and restore window titlebars?
[19:47] <Ash-Fox> doop, symlink to it or put a .desktop file to it in .kde/Autostart
[19:47] <doop> mefisto_: when i opened the desktop effects thing under the system menu it said I needed to install the compiz engine, i believe
[19:48] <doop> mefisto_: so i installed it and now i have effects and titlebars
[19:48] <mefisto_> doop: that means you are using compiz, not kwin
[19:48] <Ash-Fox> doop, to do it through the gui, alt + f2, enter "~/.kde/Autostart", then create a shortcut/link to application and.. well.. to your application
[19:49] <Ash-Fox> To do it in the console, ln -s /usr/bin/katapult ~/.kde/Autostart/
[19:49] <mefisto_> doop: there is an option in katapult to autostart on login, or do what Ash-Fox suggests
[19:49] <Ash-Fox> mefisto_, ah, I never knew :)
[19:50] <mefisto_> doop: but when I used to use katapult, it sometimes didn't autostart and I had to start it up manually
[19:51] <doop> well there's always launchy
[19:52] <mefisto_> installing kcontrol-autostart will give you a gui method of controlling autostarted programs in kcontrol
[19:52] <doop> mefisto_: ah very nice
[19:52] <mizipzor_>  has anyone got thier mic to work in steambased games through wine?
[19:52] <Ash-Fox> Yes.
[19:53] <mizipzor_> Ash-Fox: do you use a onboard soundcard or a pci one?
[19:53] <doop> holy crap it looks like wireless is actually working
[19:53] <Ash-Fox> mizipzor_, I use a mini-pci soundcard.
[19:53] <mizipzor_> Ash-Fox: hm... ok... alsa or oss drivers?
[19:54] <mizipzor_> everything in my tf2 game works except the mic :p i would like to have that to
[19:54] <WDC> What is the location of the default c compiler on kubuntu, or do I have to get it
[19:54] <mizipzor_> have been fiddling around with the options but nothing seems to work
[19:54] <Ash-Fox> mizipzor_, I use Pulse on my system and ESD driver on Wine.
[19:54] <mefisto_> WDC: you have to install it
[19:54] <WDC> gcc is the best?
[19:54] <Ash-Fox> mizipzor_, and getting pulse working properly under Kubuntu is quite a pain in the ass.
[19:55] <mizipzor_> Ash-Fox: pulse is the brand of the soundcard?
[19:55] <WDC> Ash-Fox: gcc is the best?
[19:55] <Ash-Fox> mizipzor_, no, it's the sound system I use.
[19:56] <Ash-Fox> mizipzor_, my soundcard is: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
[19:56] <PolitikerALT> Hello everyone, I got a problem: my boot time is rather long - maybe because vol_id waits about 20 seconds - How do I speed it up?
[19:56] <mizipzor_> Ash-Fox: i see... you think you could help me get my mic working?
[19:57] <Ash-Fox> mizipzor_, I don't see why it isn't working right now.
[19:57] <Ash-Fox> mizipzor_, is it working fine in normal linux applications?
[19:57] <mizipzor_> Ash-Fox: all that i have tested, yes
[19:58] <doop> how do i get the system try icons to stack 2 high
[19:58] <Ash-Fox> mizipzor_, try using the OSS driver in Wine then.
[19:58] <Ash-Fox> wine winecfg
[19:58] <Ash-Fox> doop, okay, seriously, something is entirely broken with your system.
[19:59] <doop> how?!
[19:59] <Ash-Fox> doop, just the numerous problems you keep having.
[19:59] <doop> i think it's a setting issue
[19:59] <mizipzor_> Ash-Fox: ok, i checked that (checked driver emulation as well) steam can now detect an input device but no sound seems to be detected
[19:59] <mefisto_> doop: you mean you want the panel to be larger?
[20:00] <mizipzor_> Ash-Fox: using the menu file->settings->voice to test the mic in steam
[20:00] <doop> the panel is large enough i think
[20:00] <Ash-Fox> mizipzor_, all I can say right now is "works for me", which isn't very helpful :<
[20:00] <mizipzor_> Ash-Fox: bummer... do you know if there is a way to force wine (when starting) to use a certain input device for sound?
[20:01] <doop> the icons are stacked 2 high on the quick lancher but in the system tray area next to the clock the icons are not stacked 2 high
[20:01] <mizipzor_> Ash-Fox: i have a second audio card that i can plugin to see if it works better, but i dont know how apps will react to two cards... if something happens, i want to be able to force it to use one or the other
[20:02] <Ash-Fox> mizipzor_, my method was using the ESD plugin and using the Pulse sound system, then controlling what inputs wine uses through the PulseAudio Volume Control applet.
[20:02] <WDC> Where are the C header files that Kubuntu is built on located
[20:02] <WDC> ?
[20:02] <mefisto_> doop: right-click the panel, configure panel, then play around with the "size" setting
[20:03] <Ash-Fox> mizipzor_, if you want to try using Pulse, this link was very helpful to me, http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup
[20:04] <mizipzor_> Ash-Fox: ok, but pulse was a pain in the ass to install? im gonna try it now
[20:04] <Ash-Fox> mizipzor_, it was a pain in the ass to configure.
[20:05] <Ash-Fox> I had to reconfigure large quantities of the configuration, then set most of my applications to route through their pulse plugin, if they didn't have pulse, then esd, if no esd, then ALSA.
[20:07] <Ash-Fox> mizipzor_, oh, just a tip, make pulseaudio run under your userlogin, not the /etc/init.d/ script
[20:07] <mizipzor_> Ash-Fox: ill remember that, thx
[20:08] <Ash-Fox> I have a symlink in ~/.kde/Autostart/ to /usr/bin/pulseaudio
[20:08] <Ash-Fox> Otherwise you run into annoying issues when trying to use the ESD client.
[20:10] <MarcC> is it OK to try to install a Hardy .deb in Gutsy?
[20:11] <Ash-Fox> MarcC, no.
[20:11] <MarcC> Ash-Fox: why?
[20:11] <mefisto_> MarcC: what is it you want to install?
[20:11] <MarcC> mefisto_: Pygame 1.8 ...it's required for a game
[20:11] <Ash-Fox> MarcC, because you can break your depedencies and end up screwing the system.
[20:12] <MarcC> ok, don't want to screw up any dependencies...do I have to compile pygame myself then?
[20:12] <MarcC> I am using Gutsy, so I have Pygame 1.7.1
[20:13] <Ash-Fox> MarcC, you can do that. Might want to install the build dependencies before you do so and uninstall Pygame 1.7.1 first.
[20:14] <MarcC> thanks Ash-Fox, I'll try that.
[20:19] <adz21c> Hi, when trying to add a java runtime enviroment to open office it says it doesn't contain one. The directory I am selecting is /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre. Any ideas? [Hardy]
[20:23] <mefisto_> adz21c: sudo apt-get install openoffice.org-java-common
[20:24] <byteme_> hi all
[20:24] <adz21c> mefisto_: execellent, thanks
[20:24] <byteme_> Happy Saturday!!
[20:25] <mixed1234> anyone knows if aol will work in WINE???
[20:25] <mixed1234> !aol
[20:26] <byteme_> I havent tried it. Dont much care for AOL
[20:27] <mixed1234> byteme_ i rarely use aol but it would be nice to have, my lappie's NIC card went bad though and I have to use wireless,   it's really painful running aol on that old laptop and i refuse to install redmond on my desktop
[20:28] <byteme_> you can get more from the net for cheaper
[20:28] <byteme_> understood
[20:29] <byteme_> actually that would be an interesting experiment
[20:29] <byteme_> I know people who wont switch to Linux cause of aol
[20:29] <byteme_> why dont you try it?
[20:29] <fanel> anybody thinks he's good at fixing the sound problems?
[20:31] <zzl> what is a good subtitle ripping program for dvd files?
[20:34] <mixed1234> byteme_, that is one of the reasons  I dumped aol, it wasn't available for linux so I used it very rarely
[20:35] <byteme_> Have your tried wine any windows program?
[20:35] <byteme_> you
[20:35] <byteme_> I havent found it to be the easiest thing to mess with
[20:37] <afeijo> when I click links on my thunderbird, it does nothing, should open the link on firefox... how to fix that?
[20:37] <Crank> qualcuno potrebbe dirmi un modo per reinstallare ubuntu 8.04
[20:38] <afeijo> and its possible to update my kubuntu to 64 bits without lossing what I did so far?
[20:39] <fanel> anybody thinks he's good at fixing the sound problems?
[20:39] <fanel> in Ubuntu 8.04?
[20:40] <mefisto__> afeijo: go to thunderbird prefs, advanced, config editor
[20:41] <afeijo> ok, what line?
[20:41] <mefisto__> afeijo: search for network.protocol-handler.app
[20:41] <mefisto__> does it find anything?
[20:42] <afeijo> no
[20:42] <mefisto__> afeijo: right-click, new, string
[20:42] <afeijo> to what value?
[20:42] <mefisto__> the name is: network.protocol-handler.app.http
[20:43] <mefisto__> and the value is: /usr/bin/firefox
[20:43] <mefisto__> then make another one for network.protocol-handler.app.https with same value
[20:44] <afeijo> cool, time to test
[20:44] <afeijo> that should be default on thunderbird
[20:44] <mefisto__> afeijo: I agree
[20:44] <byteme_> hey guys, I made my title bar disappear and now I cant for the lifew of me get it back
[20:46] <byteme_> I think I did it in a setting in compiz Fuzion, so I uninstalled it and I still not have any title bars
[20:46] <mefisto__> byteme_: alt-F2, kwin --replace
[20:46] <afeijo> restarted thunderbird, didnt work :(
[20:47] <byteme_> alt-f2 does nothing
[20:47] <sourcemaker> !rip
[20:47] <sourcemaker> !dvd
[20:47] <sourcemaker> how can I save a DVD to harddisk?
[20:47] <mefisto__> byteme_: from the menu, run program
[20:48] <byteme_> ok
[20:48] <mefisto__> sourcemaker: install k9copy
[20:48] <sourcemaker> I tried... dd if=/dev/cdrom1 of=test.iso but receives an io error
[20:49] <byteme_> nothing
[20:49] <byteme_> I typed in kwin--replace and got bad command
[20:50] <mefisto__> byteme_: there's a space after kwin
[20:50] <byteme_> Just kwin didnt get anything either
[20:50] <byteme_> oh ok  :o)
[20:50] <byteme_> sweet thanks, that did it
[20:52] <mefisto__> afeijo: are you sure you put everything in correctly? should be preference name: network.protocol-handler.app.http type: string value: /usr/bin/firefox
[20:53] <mefisto__> afeijo: maybe you got the dots or hyphens wrong?
[20:56] <sourcemaker> isn't dd faster than k9copy to store a complete dvd?
[20:57] <mefisto__> sourcemaker: yes, k9copy will shrink the dvd
[20:57] <claudio> salve a tutti
[20:58] <sourcemaker> mefisto__: so dd is the best way to save movie films to harddisk=
[20:58] <sourcemaker> ?
[20:58] <BlueAidan> sourcemaker: fastest isn't always best
[20:58] <BlueAidan> unless you've got dual layer disks, you're going to want to shrink the dvd
[20:59] <mefisto__> sourcemaker: try /dev/scd0 instead of /dev/cdrom1
[20:59] <sourcemaker> mefisto__: where is the difference?
[20:59] <sourcemaker> BlueAidan: so k9copy is better for me?
[21:00] <mefisto__> k9copy is better if you intend to burn to a standard blank DVD
[21:00] <sourcemaker> mefisto__: no I wan't to look the dvd on my laptop...
[21:00] <sourcemaker> mefisto__:  like my private home entertainment system :-)
[21:01] <sourcemaker> mefisto__: without changing the dvd's :-)
[21:01] <BlueAidan> heh, how big of a hard drive do you have?
[21:01] <mefisto__> sourcemaker: try the dd command again with /dev/scd0 instead of /dev/cdrom1
[21:01] <BlueAidan> with most laptops you're not going to be able to hold that many dvd's
[21:01] <sourcemaker> BlueAidan:  250Gb
[21:01] <sourcemaker> mefisto__: thanks
[21:02] <sourcemaker> BlueAidan: but I can also buy a 1TB harddisk... it's very cheap...
[21:02] <BlueAidan> most dvd's are 9GB iirc
[21:03] <BlueAidan> but I still don't see why you'd want to store the original format... I can't tell the difference between dvd5 and dvd9
[21:03] <BlueAidan> and 2x the storage requirement is pretty hefty
[21:04] <sourcemaker> BlueAidan: I do not know the dvd formats... I only want to store my dvd collection to file system... how do that?
[21:04] <mefisto__> k9copy can also create mpeg-4 avi's which will save lots of space if you're storing just for playback from hard disk
[21:05] <claudio> qual'è il canale italiano?...per favore..grazie
[21:05] <sourcemaker> mefisto__: okay... great...
[21:05] <BlueAidan> sourcemaker: yeah, play around with k9copy
[21:06] <claudio> join kubuntu-it
[21:08] <sourcemaker> BlueAidan: great... so I have to options... save as iso and create mpeg4... so I select create mpeg4 to store the dvd and save space?
[21:08] <afeijo> I double check, it is correct
[21:11] <BlueAidan> sourcemaker: using mpeg4 will probably take a lot longer than iso
[21:11] <BlueAidan> iso is converting from dvd9->dvd5, so it won't be as quick as a direct copy as dd
[21:12] <mefisto__> afeijo: does /usr/bin/firefox exist? on my install, /usr/bin/firefox is a symlink to /usr/bin/firefox-3.0
[21:12] <BlueAidan> if you're not going to be re-burning the discs, I'd probably invest the time and do mpeg4. Be aware though that if the dvd's are action-oriented, the encoder can have a hard time
[21:13] <BlueAidan> I tried to encode Saving Private Ryan awhile back, and the beach scene looked pretty bad
[21:13] <portal> hi room
[21:14] <afeijo> it does not :)
[21:14] <afeijo> locating firefox
[21:14] <appletree> hi@all
[21:14] <portal> any help 4 me whit wifi in ubuntu???
[21:15] <afeijo> it is in /usr/share/firefox
[21:15] <mefisto__> afeijo: replace those settings to /usr/bin/whatever-command-starts-firefox
[21:16] <mefisto__> afeijo: that's unusual. how did you install firefox?
[21:16] <afeijo> I guess thru adept
[21:17] <mefisto__> afeijo: ok, I suppose change the settings to /usr/share/firefox then
[21:17] <afeijo> to the folder? I need the command
[21:19] <mefisto__> afeijo: how do you normally start firefox?
[21:19] <afeijo> icon
[21:20] <mefisto__> afeijo: where is the icon? desktop?
[21:20] <sourcemaker> BlueAidan: can I save the movie to iso and then transcode them to mpeg4?
[21:20] <afeijo> fast launcher
[21:20] <sourcemaker> It's maybe faster
[21:21] <mefisto__> afeijo: is firefox in Kmenu, under Internet submenu?
[21:22] <afeijo> yes
[21:22] <BlueAidan> sourcemaker: transcoding is CPU limited, so I doubt it'd be faster (unlesss you've got a really slow dvd drive)... it might be more reliable ripping to disc first though.
[21:22] <afeijo> command firefox-2 %u
[21:23] <afeijo> found it on /usr/bin/firefox-2
[21:23] <afeijo> replacing
[21:23] <mefisto__> afeijo: ok
[21:23] <sourcemaker> well... it's and old dvd drive... CPU = 18% :-)
[21:24] <afeijo> WORKING!!!!!!!!!! thanks mefisto__
[21:24] <mefisto__> afeijo: if you upgrade to firefox 3, you'll have to change that again
[21:24] <afeijo> np
[21:25] <BlueAidan> sourcemaker: going to mp4 or dvd5?
[21:25] <sourcemaker> BlueAidan: with k9copy mpeg4
[21:25] <BlueAidan> heh, it must be really slow
[21:26] <sourcemaker> BlueAidan: yeah... it's more than 5 years old :-)
[21:30] <benerivo> hello=-O
[21:35] <pteague> what engine does amarok use by default? xine or something else?
[21:38] <mefisto__> pteague: yes xine
[21:39] <pteague> hmm...  weird then... amarok has worked fine & now today, for some reason, it can't seem to find any audio devices to initialize
[21:40] <pteague> do i need to wrap it with aoss?
[21:40] <mefisto__> pteague: I get that sometimes after playing flash video in firefox
[21:41] <pteague> oh, that may be the issue then, thanks :)
[21:41] <pteague> is there a way to wrap the flash plugin in firefox in aoss? ;)
[21:44] <mefisto__> pteague: apparently there is. I just googleed "flash plugin in firefox in aoss". try it
[21:45] <pteague> google to the rescue :)
[21:45] <mefisto__> pteague: but you might notice audio goes out of sync after a while
[21:52] <sourcemaker> mefisto__: k9copy is running and running and running... no dvd access... no cpu usage.... what's wrong?
[21:53] <mefisto__> sourcemaker: no dvd access? what do you mean?
[21:54] <sourcemaker> mefisto__:  I use k9copy to store dvd movie as mpeg4... but there is no read to the dvd drive... and the cpu is also low...
[21:55] <sourcemaker> mefisto__: the only running process is top and krcupreemptd...
[21:55] <mefisto__> sourcemaker: in k9copy, is there anything in "input device"?
[21:55] <ubuntu_> ahai
[21:55] <ubuntu_> dudududud
[21:55] <ubuntu_> vou gei-
[21:56] <sourcemaker> mefisto__: yes... the transcoding is 43%
[21:57] <mefisto__> sourcemaker: and it has stopped there?
[21:57] <sourcemaker> mefisto__:  I am not sure... but I think so
[22:00] <mefisto__> sourcemaker: I remember something like that when I first started using k9copy. there is a setting in configure k9copy, DVD called "quick scan" which for some DVDs had to be on, others had to be off
[22:01] <sourcemaker> mefisto__:  I will try... thanks
[22:08] <tuxbuntu> hi
[22:09] <tuxbuntu> @ all
[22:21] <TheMaxzilla> I need a shell script to run at startup everytime. Is there a location for autorun files?
[22:24] <mefisto__> ~/.kde/Autostart
[22:26] <linux_> ola
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> ola
[22:30] <jonjo> hi
[22:33] <fanel> anybody thinks he's good at fixing the sound problems?
[22:33] <fanel> in Ubuntu 8.04?
[22:34] <mefisto__> maybe try just describing your problem, and see what responses you get
[22:34] <SmokeEater85911> Hello
[22:34] <SmokeEater85911> can anybody help this newb at installing kubuntu?
[22:35] <Alex135> me :)
[22:35] <Alex135> SmokeEater85911: im bored right now so ill give you a hand
[22:35] <SmokeEater85911> sweet thanks
[22:36] <Alex135> are you wanting it to be duel booted (windows and linux) or just linux
[22:36] <SmokeEater85911> I made a 15gb partition (would have been bigger but for some reason windows wont let me make it any bigger.. even though I have 190gb free!!??) and its all set up.
[22:36] <SmokeEater85911> dual boot with windows
[22:36] <SmokeEater85911> I booted into Kubuntu and went into the installation. I was going through the setup process until I came to the part where it wants me to pick a drive/partition. Obviously i want to pick Manual because if I pick guided it will delete windows and everything on there right? so i select the partition I set up just for Kubuntu and it gives me an error "No rood system is defined"
[22:37] <Alex135> ok, get back to where you setup the partitons
[22:37] <SmokeEater85911> hm can you gimme a sec, let me get on my other laptop so you can walk me through it?
[22:38] <Alex135> sure, np
[22:38] <SmokeEater85911> k brb
[22:40] <Will_PE> Oi?!?
[22:40] <Smokeeater85911> k back
[22:41] <SmokeEater85911> ya there alex?
[22:41] <Alex135> ya
[22:41] <Alex135> (sorry, was reading something while you were gone)
[22:41] <Will_PE> alguem do brazil?
[22:41] <SmokeEater85911> k so where do we start
[22:41] <SmokeEater85911> want me to get back where I pick the partition?
[22:41] <Alex135> put the cd in and go to where you manage the partitions
[22:41] <SmokeEater85911> k lemme reboot it
[22:42] <SmokeEater85911> you wouldnt happen to know why windows wont allow me a larger partition would you?
[22:43] <Alex135> erm...
[22:43] <Alex135> well
[22:43] <Alex135> the windows partition was formated to have a lot of extra space (for installing programs, downloading files etc)
[22:43] <Alex135> partitions dont normally expand as needed
[22:43] <Alex135> they are a fixed size
[22:43] <SmokeEater85911> its a 250gb hdd, i have 190gb free but it would only let me make a 20gb partition
[22:44] <Alex135> i think the windows partition is takeing all of it up
[22:44] <Alex135> even though its not useing it all
[22:44] <Ash-Fox> SmokeEater85911, you're using fat aren't you?
[22:45] <Alex135> Ash-Fox: normal windows installs use ntfs
[22:45] <SmokeEater85911> no its ntsf
[22:45] <Ash-Fox> Alex135, I am aware of this, but I have ran into a similar issue when choosing fat32
[22:46] <Alex135> Ash-Fox: ah, ok
[22:46] <SmokeEater85911> my partition is an NTSF as well
[22:46] <SmokeEater85911> k almost there with the install
[22:46] <SmokeEater85911> k im there at the partition select screen
[22:47] <Alex135> ok
[22:47] <SmokeEater85911> i want manual right not guided
[22:47] <Alex135> you know how partitions work correct?
[22:47] <SmokeEater85911> guided will wipe windows off?
[22:47] <Alex135> well
[22:47] <SmokeEater85911> for the most part yeah
[22:47] <Alex135> well
[22:47] <Alex135> there should be 2 guided
[22:47] <Alex135> options
[22:48] <SmokeEater85911> there is 1 it says Guided - use entire disk
[22:48] <Alex135> hmmm
[22:48] <Alex135> ok,
[22:48] <Alex135> hit manual
[22:48] <SmokeEater85911> and it lists my HDD (250.1GB ATA )
[22:48] <Alex135> what version of kubuntu are you installing
[22:48] <Alex135> 8.04? (hardy)
[22:48] <SmokeEater85911> yeah
[22:49] <Alex135> ok (i must be used to the ubuntu install that has more options, oh well i can adapt)
[22:49] <Alex135> you know how linux partitions work?
[22:49] <SmokeEater85911> k so i see the partitions
[22:49] <SmokeEater85911> it lists 3
[22:49] <Alex135> what 3 does it list
[22:49] <fanel> anybody thinks he's good at fixing the sound problems?
[22:49] <SmokeEater85911> I assume one is windows the other is my backup and the other is the one I made for kubuntu
[22:50] <fanel> in Ubuntu 8.04?
[22:50] <SmokeEater85911> it lists /dev/sda1 /dev/sda2 and /dev/sda3
[22:50] <Alex135> SmokeEater85911: does it have a graph of some sort or size showing how big each one is?
[22:51] <SmokeEater85911> no but it tells me the sizes next to them
[22:51] <SmokeEater85911> sda3 is the on I set aside for linux
[22:51] <Alex135> what did you format it as
[22:51] <Alex135> ext3?
[22:51] <SmokeEater85911> it just says NTFS
[22:52] <Alex135> deleat sda3
[22:52] <Alex135> we are gonna remake the partition
[22:52] <SmokeEater85911> it lets me pick what type to use it as though
[22:52] <SmokeEater85911> oh, okay
[22:52] <Alex135> you made the partition wrong, its an easy mistake to do though if your new to linux and other OS's
[22:53] <SmokeEater85911> yeah im new hah trying to get used to something other than windows..
[22:53] <SmokeEater85911> k deleted
[22:53] <Alex135> make a new partition and have it be 19gb in size the mount point as / and the file system be ext3
[22:53] <SmokeEater85911> k so clicked on free space, and clicked "New Partition"
[22:53] <SmokeEater85911> set it as a primary right?
[22:53] <Alex135> yes
[22:54] <SmokeEater85911> location beginning or end?
[22:54] <Alex135> it really doesn't matter (from what i know)
[22:54] <SmokeEater85911> k
[22:55] <SmokeEater85911> k now im selecting sda3
[22:55] <Alex135> 1 sec, let me start up a vm so i can see things to make it easier to walk you through it instead of going by memory
[22:55] <SmokeEater85911> k
[22:56] <SmokeEater85911> it says I didnt select a partition for a swap space
[22:57] <Alex135> ya, you need to make 1 for that, 1 sec
[22:57] <SmokeEater85911> but it wont let me make any more partitions so...
[22:57] <SmokeEater85911> i cant shrink my HDD anymore than the 15gb I alloted for Kubuntu
[22:58] <Alex135> 1 sec
[22:58] <SmokeEater85911> k
[22:58] <mefisto__> is qtparted on the livecd?
[22:58] <Alex135> mefisto__: yes
[22:58] <Alex135> erm.
[22:58] <Alex135> well
[22:58] <Alex135> i think it is
[22:59] <Alex135> gparted is on the ubuntu live cd
[23:00] <SmokeEater85911> i have gparted on a separate cd, but I dont wanna us it because I dont have a vista install cd lol
[23:00] <Alex135> SmokeEater85911: ok, 1 sec, im setting up the cd on another computer so i can walk you through it easier....
[23:00] <SmokeEater85911> swet thanks
[23:00] <SmokeEater85911> sweet*
[23:01] <Alex135> ok, deleat the partition we just made and we will start over
[23:01] <SmokeEater85911> so from what Ive read linux blows windows away for the most part
[23:01] <SmokeEater85911> k deleting
[23:01] <Alex135> what do you mean by "blows away
[23:01] <Alex135> like gets rid of it
[23:01] <Alex135> or is way better then it
[23:01] <SmokeEater85911> performance wise.. it doesnt use up as much system resources etc..
[23:01] <SmokeEater85911> k its deleted
[23:02] <Alex135> that is correct, however there are some things that are way diff and are hard to adapt to
[23:02] <Alex135> ok
[23:02] <Alex135> make a new partition
[23:02] <Alex135> primary
[23:02] <SmokeEater85911> k
[23:02] <Alex135> and 500 under the max size
[23:02] <Alex135> ext3
[23:03] <Alex135> and for the mount point put /
[23:03] <SunStorm> i'd like to boot windows first with an option to boot kubuntu.  is there checkbox that will change the boot priority?
[23:03] <SmokeEater85911> 500 under? so we will make another 500mb partition for swap space?
[23:03] <Alex135> yes
[23:04] <SmokeEater85911> k
[23:04] <mefisto__> SunStorm: you have windows and kubuntu installed now?
[23:04] <Alex135> you put the mount piont in right?
[23:04] <Alex135> point*
[23:04] <SunStorm> yes, and it's booting to kubuntu by default
[23:04] <SmokeEater85911> same goes for the swapspace partition?
[23:04] <SmokeEater85911> yeah
[23:04] <Alex135> hit ok
[23:04] <SmokeEater85911> k its created
[23:04] <Alex135> k, now make another partition
[23:05] <mefisto__> SunStorm: the grub menu (the one you see before boot) is at /boot/grub/menu.lst  which is where you would make the change you want
[23:05] <SmokeEater85911> same contitions? ext3 and /?
[23:05] <Alex135> no, 1 sec
[23:05] <Alex135> this time we have a swap area
[23:05] <Alex135> and dont bother with the mountpoint
[23:05] <SmokeEater85911> ah i see it
[23:06] <SmokeEater85911> k created
[23:06] <jagguli> hi all does any one know how the use dar ...
[23:06] <SmokeEater85911> now click the sda3 and install?
[23:06] <jagguli> i wasnt to diff a backup with current dir
[23:06] <SunStorm> :(, i was hoping for a gui boot configuration utility
[23:06] <Alex135> ya
[23:06] <SunStorm> every kernel update, requires channging the boot priority
[23:07] <Alex135> SmokeEater85911: click forward and install
[23:07] <SmokeEater85911> and w are installing
[23:07] <SmokeEater85911> we* man the E key sucks on this laptop
[23:07] <SmokeEater85911> hopefully this will work with my wifi
[23:07] <Alex135> i have Kubuntu on my laptop, so it should
[23:08] <SmokeEater85911> how do you like it?
[23:08] <Alex135> its verry nice
[23:08] <SmokeEater85911> it looks very graphically pleasing
[23:08] <SmokeEater85911> i like the cube effect, and the "rubber" windows and stuff
[23:08] <sally_> if I installed kubuntu but want to switch to regular ubuntu (by using gnome), what package(s) do I need to install?
[23:08] <Alex135> erm
[23:08] <Alex135> SmokeEater85911: that is mostly in gnome
[23:09] <SmokeEater85911> ah
[23:09] <Alex135> SmokeEater85911: so it would be in ubuntu, and not Kubuntu
[23:09] <Alex135> SmokeEater85911: but you can have both on the same install
[23:09] <SmokeEater85911> *shrug* oh well haha.. Ive read that ubuntu and kubuntu are one of the best linux builds
[23:09] <Alex135> SmokeEater85911: you have read correctly
[23:10] <SmokeEater85911> a friend of mine swears by Mandriva but I wouldnt know
[23:10] <Alex135> SmokeEater85911: its all really a matter of preference
[23:10] <Alex135> SmokeEater85911: Ubuntu is an easy one to start with though
[23:11] <SmokeEater85911> it looks similar to windows
[23:11] <mefisto__> SunStorm: there is a package called startupmanager you could install. I've never tried it though. for a description, type: apt-cache show startupmanager
[23:11] <SmokeEater85911> a start menu, system tray...
[23:11] <Alex135> did you have it install kde4.1 or what...
[23:12] <SmokeEater85911> yeah whatever the new one is on the site
[23:12] <Alex135> SmokeEater85911: oh
[23:12] <SmokeEater85911> I just downloaded that and Ill try this out.. if I dont like it, Ill try ubuntu or something else
[23:12] <SmokeEater85911> im just trying to get away from windows as much as possible
[23:12] <Alex135> SmokeEater85911: good for you, but i should warn you
[23:12] <SmokeEater85911> (67%)
[23:12] <Alex135> SmokeEater85911: that desktop environment (kde4) is not fully developed and has bugs
[23:13] <SmokeEater85911> well being that it is new, there will still be support for it and bug fixes yes?
[23:13] <Alex135> SmokeEater85911: yes
[23:13] <Alex135> SmokeEater85911: but its a real hastle to work with
[23:13] <SmokeEater85911> so then I will try to give it the benefit of the doubt ;)
[23:13] <Alex135> SmokeEater85911: but im sure you will do fine :)
[23:14] <SmokeEater85911> so the only major difference between ubuntu and kubuntu is the KDE ?
[23:14] <tomer_> hi if i run cmake
[23:14] <Alex135> yes
[23:14] <SmokeEater85911> hence the K in Kubuntu lol
[23:14] <Alex135> ubuntu runs gnome
[23:14] <Alex135> kubuntu runs kde
[23:14] <tomer_> and i get could not find kde4-config
[23:14] <SmokeEater85911> are they just different GUIs?
[23:14] <tomer_> what should i do?
[23:14] <Alex135> yes
[23:14] <mefisto__> sally_: to install ubuntu: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[23:15] <Alex135> but the programs are not cross compatable unless you have libraries for the other installed, which isn't hard
[23:15] <tomer_> im trying to build yakuake
[23:15] <SmokeEater85911> and arent there programs that will simulate a windows machine and allow you to run windows applications?
[23:15] <sally_> SmokeEater85911: vmware, virtualbox
[23:16] <SmokeEater85911> awesome
[23:16] <Alex135> however, they're capabilities are limited
[23:16] <SmokeEater85911> will it allow me to access applications on my other partition?
[23:16] <Alex135> erm... no
[23:16] <Alex135> well
[23:16] <SmokeEater85911> or would I have to re-download them on this one?
[23:16] <sally_> you can use vmware to run the windows installation on another partition
[23:17] <sally_> it's not dead simple to set up like usual vmware but it's very do-able
[23:17] <SmokeEater85911> for example I use photoshop cs3 a lot, and a few other graphics applications
[23:17] <Alex135> you will probably need to re-install them
[23:17] <Alex135> however you dont have the diskspace to do it
[23:17] <SmokeEater85911> agreed
[23:17] <sally_> uhh
[23:17] <SmokeEater85911> not until i can figure out how to make windows give me more lol
[23:17] <SmokeEater85911> k finally installed
[23:17] <sally_> did you see what I just wrote?
[23:17] <sally_> ah fuck it
[23:17] <Alex135> yes we saw it
[23:18] <mefisto__> tomer_: yakuake is in repos
[23:18] <Alex135> Sally_: he saw
[23:18] <tomer_> repos? what does that mean?
[23:18] <SmokeEater85911> so now do I need to get on windows and run EasyBCD?
[23:18] <SmokeEater85911> to set up a new boot to enable the dual boot?
[23:18] <Alex135> its already setup
[23:18] <mefisto__> tomer_: it means you don't have to build it. you can just type in konsole: sudo apt-get install yakuake
[23:18] <Alex135> restart your computer and you will see
[23:19] <Alex135> atliest, it should be
[23:19] <SmokeEater85911> and I dont need the cd anymore correct?
[23:19] <Alex135> nope
[23:19] <tomer_> but i want to build it so i can modify it
[23:19] <tomer_> so i want to build it from source
[23:19] <Alex135> but i would keep it around
[23:19] <SmokeEater85911> i will JIC, its a DVD-RW anyway..
[23:19] <mefisto__> tomer_: repos = repositories, which is where installable packages are stored and downloaded from
[23:19] <Alex135> !repositories
[23:20] <SmokeEater85911> ah, yup set up a nice boot menu for me
[23:20] <Alex135> :)
[23:20] <Alex135> welcome to grub boot loader
[23:20] <SmokeEater85911> brb one sec
[23:20] <Alex135> k
[23:21] <SmokeEater85911> yay installation works
[23:21] <SmokeEater85911> now to figure this all out
[23:21] <Alex135> you should run the updates now
[23:22] <Alex135> and configuring the video card can sometimes be a pain....
[23:22] <SmokeEater85911> i need to get the wifi connected first
[23:22] <Alex135> yes, it does help
[23:23] <SmokeEater85911> hardware driver manager?
[23:23] <Alex135> i am not sure how to get the wifi working, it worked for me from the start
[23:23] <Alex135> it changes on what hardware you have
[23:23] <SmokeEater85911> it says "no proprietary drivers are in use on this system
[23:23] <SmokeEater85911> and it lists my graphics driver
[23:25] <Alex135> can someone help SmokeEater get his wifi working, im not good with that....
[23:25] <SmokeEater85911> so ill need to find the driver for my NVIDIA card
[23:25] <SmokeEater85911> hold on i think i got my wifi
[23:25] <Alex135> video card is easy, there are methods to do it already on your system
[23:26] <SmokeEater85911> i clicked on it and it lists all the WLANs in my area and listed mine, I put my passphrase in and now im waiting
[23:26] <Alex135> it should work....
[23:26] <mefisto__> SmokeEater85911: if your nvidia card is listed in hardware drivers manager, you can tick the box and it should download and install the proprietary driver for your card
[23:27] <SmokeEater85911> hmm its sitting 57%
[23:27] <Alex135> SmokeEater85911: its probably gonna have probs authenticating.... not sure what to do there... mine has alwase worked
[23:28] <Alex135> ofcourse i have a open network without a wep key
[23:28] <SmokeEater85911> yeah I have a wep key it says its at 28% configuring device
[23:29] <SmokeEater85911> connection failure
[23:30] <Alex135> not sure...
[23:31] <SmokeEater85911> crap
[23:31] <SmokeEater85911> anybody else here might know what to do with this wifi problem?
[23:33] <SmokeEater85911> well at least I got it installed hah
[23:33] <SmokeEater85911> but it doesnt do me much good w/o internet
[23:34] <Alex135> you have lan?
[23:34] <Alex135> and its able to be setup, just might take some work
[23:34] <Alex135> im no good at it.... sorry
[23:34] <SmokeEater85911> if I take it all the way into the other room
[23:35] <Alex135> oh my word i dont think its reasonable to need to get off your but to move the laptop, you should stay there and be lazy :P
[23:35] <SmokeEater85911> maybe if I hook it up via LAN it can download an update or something to help this?
[23:35] <SmokeEater85911> haha
[23:35] <Alex135> ya, that would be the first option
[23:35] <Alex135> try that
[23:36] <mefisto__> SmokeEater85911: but you need to enter your WEP key somewhere, right?
[23:36] <SmokeEater85911> I already entered it
[23:36] <SmokeEater85911> and then it failed, and I entered it again
[23:37] <SmokeEater85911> k well im going to eat and Ill be back to try some more
[23:37] <SmokeEater85911> thanks alex for the help, will you be around in maybe an hour?
[23:37] <acke> hey what does "quiet" and "splash" mean after the "initrd.img"?
[23:38] <SmokeEater85911> afk
[23:38] <acke> and can buth be safeley removed from the string "append="quiet splash""
[23:39] <acke> can the expression append="quiet splash" be removed without complications?
[23:39] <acke> :)
[23:39] <mefisto__> acke: removed from what? grub?
[23:40] <acke> yaboot.conf
[23:40] <acke> ;)
[23:40] <Alex135> erm ya
[23:40] <Alex135> SmokeEater85911: i will
[23:41] <mefisto__> yaboot.conf ?? which is where?
[23:41] <Alex135> SmokeEater85911: ill be around
[23:41] <acke> mefisto__: depends on your system. are you running a ppc system?
[23:42] <acke> its in /etc/
[23:42] <mefisto__> acke: no
[23:42] <acke> mefisto__: /etc/yaboot.conf
[23:42] <acke> mefisto__: it kindof looks similar to grub.list
[23:43] <acke> so i thouht it might not matter if it was mentioned in a grub or yaboot conf file. ;)
[23:43] <mefisto__> acke: ok, well in grub, quiet and splash can safely be removed
[23:43] <sourcemaker> I can see an encrypted dvd but I regionset and libdvdcss2 has been installed?
[23:43] <sourcemaker> sorry... can not see
[23:43] <acke> mefisto__: kk. i hope the append thing in yaboot.conf is okay to remove aswell.
[23:43] <mefisto__> acke: quiet supresses some boot messages and just shows important ones
[23:44] <acke> and splash lets me se the splash and not the messages.
[23:44] <mefisto__> acke: and splash is the graphical boot splash, so removing that will give you a text-only bootup
[23:44] <acke> grrrrr. dont get it. mobilephones and windows uses splash. its so crappy. hate it.
[23:44] <acke> :P
[23:45] <acke> mefisto__: thanks :)
[23:46] <mefisto__> acke: you could replace quiet with verbose if you want more detailed boot messages. I think the default is quiet anyway (ie if you take quiet out, it will still be quiet)
[23:47] <SmokeEater85911> ugh gonna be a couple more mins before I eat, so Ill attempt to plug this directly into my router
[23:47] <acke> mefisto__: aah thats nice to know. is the boot up info logged somewhere?
[23:49] <mefisto__> acke: you'll find logs in /var/log or you can use ksystemlog if you want a gui app to see the various logs
[23:52] <TheMaxzilla> Okay, I want this script (http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/38063/) to run at startup, Does the script look like it will work?
[23:53] <SmokeEater85911> can anybody help me with my WLAN/LAN issue?
[23:54] <TheMaxzilla> Shoot.
[23:54] <SmokeEater85911> I cant get my wireless or lan to work
[23:55] <SmokeEater85911> it detects my wireless is there, but wont connect, even after I enter my WEP key
[23:55] <mefisto__> TheMaxzilla: is kde-window-manager a valid command?
[23:56] <acke> mefisto__: okay, yaboot doesnt seems to be logging boot (to standard /var/log/boot.log). maybe a feature request...
[23:56] <TheMaxzilla> mefisto__: Yes
[23:56] <TheMaxzilla> It's supposed to be something else
[23:57] <SmokeEater85911> hmmmm
[23:57] <mefisto__> acke: maybe kern.log is what you're looking for?
[23:57] <B_Raven> Is there an equivalent key combination for ubuntu as the ctrl-shift-a of debian? (Generates a next line character in apps such as xchat)
[23:58] <TheMaxzilla> mefisto__: This would be the correct version. (http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/38065/)
[23:59] <SmokeEater85911> anybody know how to get the wlan/lan working?