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| bala | hello | 07:07 |
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| persia | bala: Good day. | 07:07 |
| bala | thnx | 07:07 |
| bala | anyone has any idea how to port ubuntu mobile on a menlow board???? | 07:07 |
| persia | Does the menlow image not work for you? | 07:08 |
| bala | i just downloaded a USB image of ubuntu hardy for menlow | 07:08 |
| bala | from cd image site | 07:08 |
| bala | i tried creating two partitons in USB | 07:09 |
| bala | both ext3 and used dd tool to write image onto the pendrive when i power up the board it hangs up | 07:10 |
| bala | could u plz help me with some documentation on porting ubuntu on menlow board/platforms | 07:10 |
| persia | Hmm. I'm not sure you want the partitions. I believe the image expects to create a bootable VFAT filesystem on the entire key. | 07:10 |
| bala | allright | 07:11 |
| bala | then | 07:11 |
| bala | where will the image install??? | 07:11 |
| bala | i just haave another USB driver where it can load the OS | 07:11 |
| bala | drive* | 07:11 |
| persia | I believe it installs on the first discovered SCSI disk (which might be SCSI, SATA, PATA, USB, or 1394). | 07:12 |
| bala | actually what happens is that it at times searches for the devices | 07:12 |
| persia | And it can't find any devices? | 07:12 |
| bala | but finds none even though i have a pen drive connected | 07:12 |
| bala | any problems with the fs on the pen drive??? | 07:13 |
| persia | I'm not sure: I don't have any devices without built-in storage, so haven't tried that. | 07:13 |
| bala | any documentation u can find to help me out???? | 07:14 |
| persia | Not really. The images are created with MIC: you might look at fiddling with the chroot to see if you can get it to work. Does the device boot off an i386 livecd? | 07:15 |
| persia | (or image thereof) | 07:15 |
| bala | actually the board that i use is shipped from intel it doesnt have any CD drives/HDDs | 07:16 |
| bala | no storage present | 07:16 |
| persia | Right. Do you not have a bootable USB optical drive for testing? | 07:16 |
| persia | Alternately, you can put the CD image on a USB key to make sure that works. | 07:16 |
| bala | ok | 07:17 |
| persia | Essentially, the point wouldbe to determine if the device discovery was a problem with the kernel or the installer. | 07:17 |
| bala | but m using the DD command to write the .img file to USB | 07:17 |
| bala | thats a correct step that m following isnt it? | 07:17 |
| persia | If it's the kernel, it likely needs deeper fiddling than if it's just that the presented device names don't match that which the installer is expecting. | 07:17 |
| bala | ok | 07:18 |
| persia | Yes, for the images at the URL in the topic, dd is the right way to copy to the USB key. Many people have reported better succes rates using bs=1024k | 07:18 |
| bala | ok | 07:19 |
| bala | sometimes it says cant find root VFS error | 07:19 |
| persia | That makes me think it's a problem booting the USB device: it may be in an unexpected place. You might try fiddling with the arguments from the grub menu. | 07:20 |
| bala | yeah but when i connect the USB it states boot: there is no option there reg the grub menu just have to press enter to select the vmlinuz kernel | 07:21 |
| persia | bala: Try typing menu at the grub prompt. | 07:23 |
| bala | there is no grub prompt | 07:23 |
| persia | I thought the boot warning on the USB key was a grub prompt. Hmm. | 07:28 |
| persia | Hold on a bit, and I'll get a test environment up. | 07:29 |
| bala | ok | 07:29 |
| persia | RIght. I've just booted off the mccaslin image (I don't have any menlow devices), and I get a "boot:" prompt, at which I am told to press enter. | 07:36 |
| bala | yeah exactly | 07:36 |
| persia | That boot: prompt is a grub prompt. | 07:36 |
| bala | ohh | 07:36 |
| bala | ok actually m just starting off with this so did nt know | 07:36 |
| bala | ok | 07:36 |
| bala | so u mean to say in grub i shd modify the setiings so that the target installation device is USB? | 07:37 |
| persia | It sounds to me like you're encountering booting issues, rather than installation issues. Am I missing something? | 07:38 |
| bala | not booting the USB device in wich i have just the image boots if i have a vfat fs on it not if two partitions but once it does it doesnt find the target device which is again USB (2nd ) to install into | 07:39 |
| persia | Oh, you are trying to install to another partition on the same device? I thought you were trying to install to a different USB device. | 07:41 |
| bala | yes a diff USB device | 07:41 |
| persia | OK, so it boots cleanly, and then can't find a device. | 07:42 |
| bala | yes | 07:42 |
| * persia presses enter to get farther | 07:42 | |
| persia | Are you getting errors where it keeps sleeping for 5 seconds while checking device /dev/sd[abcd] for installation source? | 07:42 |
| bala | yes | 07:42 |
| bala | absolutely the same | 07:42 |
| persia | OK. I've replicated that. | 07:43 |
| persia | Hmm. It appears that the install sequence makes a number of assumptions about the HW present, and while it works for some devices, it doesn't for others. | 07:46 |
| bala | ok | 07:47 |
| persia | Essentially, it needs the booting USB key to have been mapped to /dev/sd[abcd] in order to proceed with the install, but that may not be the case for all HW environments. | 07:47 |
| bala | so it wont work for USB???? | 07:47 |
| persia | Well, at least it's not tuned for the board you have (not surprising, as this was tested only on the Crown Beach). | 07:47 |
| bala | ohk | 07:47 |
| bala | i have a crown beach board as well in office | 07:48 |
| bala | but my concern is that in that as well there is no inbuilt storage | 07:48 |
| persia | I'm going to again recommend booting off a USB image constructed from an i386 livecd (or booting off a USB optical drive), and seeing if you can determine where the devices are being mapped. | 07:48 |
| bala | so will it install onto a USB | 07:48 |
| bala | ok | 07:48 |
| persia | I thought the crown beach did have a local storage interface (I don't have one, so I'm not sure). | 07:49 |
| bala | all right | 07:49 |
| bala | thanx a lot for ur help | 07:49 |
| persia | You can definitely construct an image that installs onto USB, but you may have to modify Install.py to make sure that you are pointing at the right target. | 07:50 |
| persia | Good luck with your solution. | 07:50 |
| bala | install.py ?/? | 07:50 |
| bala | where is that file??? | 07:50 |
| persia | In the MIC source. | 07:50 |
| persia | (moblin-image-creator) | 07:50 |
| bala | yeah | 07:50 |
| bala | and for MIC to work we need the 8.10 version of ubuntu rght cant get it off with just an old ubuntu rig? | 07:51 |
| persia | I'd recommend getting the MIC from archive.mobile.ubuntu.com, as it has some improvements over that on archive.ubuntu.com for 8.04. | 07:54 |
| persia | The 8.10 MIC is basically identical to the archive.mobile.ubuntu.com MIC, except it has been built for 8.10 instead of 8.04. | 07:55 |
| bala | ok thnx a lot for ur tips | 07:55 |
| bala | i'll try implementing them | 07:55 |
| bala | once again thnx a lot | 07:56 |
| persia | bala: I'm sorry I can't tell you more: I just don't have the HW to replicate that cleanly. | 07:56 |
| bala | u have been helpful all this while answering patiently my qns that itself is enuf | 07:56 |
| lool | persia: Hmmm you seem to claim that linux-lpiacompat works on i586+; I think lpia is i686, are you sure this is supported? | 15:25 |
| persia | lool: amitk suggested it was, but I've never heard if it works or not from anyone with i586 HW. | 15:26 |
| persia | And yes, lpia is i686, but apparently the linux-lpiacompat kernel was designed to create an lpia-like environment for non-lpia (or at least that was my understanding from what was said). | 15:27 |
| persia | I'll see if I can find the log: I may be misinterpreting. | 15:27 |
| persia | http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/07/31/%23ubuntu-mobile.html | 15:29 |
| lool | Ok; that was just in case; I don't strongly care, but was surprized by the discrepancy | 15:29 |
| lool | persia: Sounds like you were intrepreting correctly to me; thanks for the inf | 15:30 |
| lool | o | 15:30 |
| persia | lool: No problem. It was a surprise to me as well. | 15:31 |
| * persia wants someone with an older Geode or a C7-M to report definitively "it works" or "it doesn't work". | 15:32 | |
| lool | I have some via here, but not C7 | 15:33 |
| persia | Is it i586? | 15:35 |
| lool | Yeah, at least | 15:35 |
| lool | oh it's a c7 actually | 15:36 |
| persia | When you have a chance, could you try booting the linux-lpiacompat kernel? If it works, I can feel confident with the advice I give Eee users. If it doesn't, I'll stop telling people it ought to work. | 15:36 |
| lool | I'll need to unpack it and all some day; I'll do that ASAP but certainly not this WE | 15:38 |
| persia | No huge rush. Be nice to know if it works, but generally those without lpia HW ought be testing in a VM. | 15:39 |
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