[00:00] i used to use it for a windoz share, but reformatted my mythbox and have forgoten the command :( [00:03] So I'm having problems using oss4 and mythtv [00:04] when I go to watch Tv I get VERY quiet, like every thing turned up I get a wisper [00:05] when I used alsa All I had to do to fix this exact same problem was this: http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-7.html#ss7.2 [00:06] Any one know how to do the same in oss4 [00:11] there's mythrename.pl [00:12] thanks just found it, had been looking for mythlink, but it was replaced by mythrename ages ago :( [00:12] there is the file /usr/share/doc/mythtv-backend/contrib/mythrename.pl.gz in the mythtv-backend package [00:12] of course you have to ungzip it and put it somewhere useful [00:13] yup, that had also happered finding it! lol [00:14] I don't why it isn't put in /usr/bin [00:14] yup i would agrea, it is very usfull :) maybe its because its default is NOT to create links, it makes it kinda dangourus in some cases [00:15] yeah, it is potentially destructive [00:15] there should probably be a mythtv-contrib binary package or something containing scripts like that [00:15] would be a good idea :) [00:16] Greybeard: send a patch :) [00:16] anyone? [00:17] sorry, vbman11_ i dont use oss4 :( [00:17] ok [00:17] I think I did edit the source package to make a mythtv-contrib package a while ago when I was still building mythtv myself [06:18] http://www.pchdtv.com/ === superm1|away is now known as superm1 [13:00] I have a problem getting my DVB-T card to work! It's almost there I think [13:07] it's a "Multimedia controller: Twinhan Technology Co. Ltd Mantis DTV PCI Bridge" [13:08] I need help with my configuration for 5 sats is it possible [13:20] google for your card with driver ubuntu [13:24] http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-450761.html [13:32] thanks [13:44] yoyoyo [14:12] looks like bug 205849 still exists on 8.04.1 [14:12] Bug 205849 in mythbuntu "mythbuntu 8.04 beta installer exits silently after partial installation" [Undecided, Confirmed] http://www.launchpad.net/bugs/205849 [14:13] frink_: we need logs. [14:15] it is exactly the same as the bug - if you select custom remote during install, the install process exists early [14:15] laga: Where would that be logged? [14:15] okay, then add that to the bug report and superm1 will fix it :) [14:15] :) [14:15] will do.. [14:15] somewhere in /var7loG7, there is a special log for the installer [14:15] /var/log/ [14:15] HOwever the reason for custom support is there does not seem to be a option to install a homebrew lirc serial remote receiver.. [14:16] yeah. [14:17] is it still a manual install for lirc serial? [14:18] well, you need to provide your own lirc config anyways. [14:18] because you can have lots of different remotes [14:19] most remotes which are supported out ot the box right now are special PC remotes that come with captures cards, or the MCE stuff [14:28] yah [14:28] I have a hauppauge remote with lirc serial [14:29] i *believe* (haven't verified it) that lircd.conf files are receiver-specific [14:30] and tv-cards will return other stuff than serial receivers [14:30] but i'm not sure about that [14:57] I am thinking about builing a myth box and am looking for recomendations on hardware. $500~ budget, dual tunners, s-vid out(current tv), HD would be nice for when I buy a new tv [15:01] laga: mine seemed to work ok on prev installs... [15:01] Oh, is the nova-t-500 working proprly yet? === Mazga is now known as mAzGa [15:26] Oh forgot to add. I'm in the US and use normal Cable TV [15:59] hy, anyone out there how got dvbloopback module on intrepid kernel working? [16:01] notz: for sasc, you need to go elsewhere [16:01] sasc-ng | notz [16:01] superm1: sasc-ng is a method to ILLEGALLY receive cable or satellite broadcasts via a fake software dvb-s/c device. It is forbidden from being discussed in #ubuntu-mythtv, #ubuntu-mythtv-dev, #mythtv-users, and #mythtv. If you would like to learn more about it, please refer to it's developers and keep any and all discussions about it there. [16:03] ok, thanks [16:59] hi @all [17:02] Would anyone be so kind to help me resolving some issues ? 1. whenn i upgrade my music-directorie with new directories , then i dont get them work in mythfrontend even when i upgrade the db with mythfrontend (search for music) . 2. Mythweb is ULTRA SLOW since an upgrade of ubuntu reposotory, I can get cofee before iget some details of a Movie !?!? [17:03] sorry for my bad english writing [17:04] Steeltip, try doing a database optimization [17:04] eg repair mysql tables [17:04] over Mythweb ? [17:05] or on term ? [17:05] mythweb might have an option to do it [17:05] i forget [17:05] if not, then you can use phpmyadmin or the term too [17:06] i tried term and mythweb, nothing went better after that [17:06] then i would say to check a few other things; hard drive performance using hdparm, errors in /var/log/mythtv/* [17:06] !logs | Steeltip [17:06] Steeltip: MythTV logs are stored in /var/log/mythtv/ [17:08] WOW, what does that mean ? : MetaIOTagLib: Failed to read length from '/LAGER/Musik/NEU/[mp3Filename] [17:09] i think it would mean you should take that file out of your list of files [17:09] defect mp3 file ? [17:09] yeah defective mp3s can most definitely throw things off [17:09] okidoki [17:09] thanks guy's @ superm1 Zinn [17:10] Zinn's a bot :) [17:10] doesnt*t matter [17:10] ;) [17:10] he was kind [17:10] ;) [17:11] he can be mean, too [17:11] !stab tgm4883_laptop [17:11] * Zinn betrays laga and stabs them in the eye [17:11] see? [17:11] damn bot [17:11] lol [17:11] hahaha [17:11] he he he [17:11] i like him ;) [17:12] laga can't believe that happened right there, you have like a 4% chance of that [17:12] "you" or "everyone" ;) [17:12] hey superml , does your MYTH run under 64 bit ? [17:12] laga: everyone [17:12] Steeltip, yeah on one of my systems [17:13] HA [17:13] !stab tgm4883_laptop [17:13] * Zinn stabs tgm4883_laptop with superm1's dell e. [17:13] I busted my gps, trying to do some emergency repair in the car right now [17:13] see rhpot1991 you showed me the source and I hacked it ;) [17:13] i have master and slave running under 64 bit , seems to run not that stable as under 32 or is it cause i didnt compile by my self ? [17:14] Zinn [17:14] ;) [17:14] i am using Mythbuntu @ the moment [17:15] do you guy's compile by yourself ? [17:15] tgm4883_laptop: you prob could, what with having ssh to the box [17:15] * laga compiles and uses packages [17:15] Steeltip: I run the weekly builds, or do you mean the packages themselves [17:16] themselves ;) [17:17] isnt that too much stress rhpot1991 ? [17:17] laga and superm1 make most of them IIRC [17:17] I possibly very much am not liking this [17:18] pardon tgm4883_laptop , what do you mean ? [17:18] Steeltip, oh I'm having a different issue totally unrelated [17:18] Dealing with daily builds and cron jobs [17:18] oh [17:19] whats the meaning of liking ? [17:19] * laga hands Steeltip a dictionary [17:19] would you be so kind and explain it in other words ? [17:19] Thx allot laga [17:19] I don't like this cron job very much? [17:19] i seem to be toooooooo stupid to understand english [17:19] ;) [17:20] i'm not happy with it [17:20] because it keeps failing for no apparent reason [17:20] I'm not happy with garmin [17:20] thx [17:20] find my maps silly thing [17:20] garmin ? [17:22] NVP: Prebuffer wait timed out 10 times. : Whats that ? [17:22] gps thing [17:22] i'm not happy with that ebay guy. my GPS logger could have arrived today.. [17:23] rhpot1991, thx , google helped me :) [17:28] Steeltip: those are kinda common, could be a lot of things and might not even be a worry [17:33] the maybe corrupt files are removed/deleted but still i cant include ne dirs in mythfrontend / myth-music [17:33] new directories [17:49] thx 4 help guy'S , CU [17:55] Anyone know where to find a cheap standalone ntsc tuner? === rhpot1991_lapto1 is now known as rhpot19911 === rhpot19911 is now known as rhpot1991_laptop [18:54] Two of my channels in the listings only list "NO DATA", despite valid channel lineups from schedules direct. [18:55] This is the same bug I experienced in 7.10 when I upgraded from 0.20 to 0.21 [18:56] All other channel data is fine. Where can I start diagnosing this? [18:56] tritium, in mythweb go to settings > channel info and see if they have xmltvid numbers [18:56] tgm4883_laptop: ok, checking... [18:57] tgm4883_laptop: no, none of them do [18:58] Does that mean they were all found via a channel scan? [18:58] none of them do, as in, none of the channels have xmltvid numbers? [18:58] Correct. [18:58] well thats interesting [18:58] They only have channum, callsign, and everything right of those fields [18:59] strange, they should all have xmltvid numbers [19:00] If I allow EIT scans, would that be where the program info is coming from, and not from schedules direct? [19:00] is it digital? [19:01] The "useonairguide" check box is checked for all of them. [19:01] Yes, these are all unencrypted QAM-256 on Comcast cable. [19:01] ah [19:01] sounds like thats where its getting its info [19:02] Yeah, sounds that way. I'll try unchecking that box... [19:02] which 2 channels? [19:03] 6-1 and 12-1, which are CW and MY50 [19:04] are you sure those are broadcasting EIT [19:05] tgm4883_laptop: no, I'm not certain. I'll uncheck the "useonairguide" and do a fresh mythfilldatabase. [19:05] ok [19:07] tgm4883_laptop: thanks for your help, tgm4883_laptop. I'll let you know if that works. :) [19:15] tgm4883_laptop: that didn't seem to work [19:18] Hmm, the channel lineup doesn't list any of the HD channels. Now I'm puzzled. Should I use the over-the-air channel lineup to get the HD channel info, even though I'm using cable? [19:20] cable companies always switch channels around AFAIK [19:21] Yeah. [19:22] * tritium tries manually entering xmlids [19:23] tritium, if you match up the call signs, you don't usually need to enter xmlids [19:23] mythfilldatabase wil handle it [19:24] superm1: that's not happening for 2 of my channels [19:24] tritium, make sure that you match up spacing, dashes, etc [19:24] I'm not editing the call signs at all. They were auto setup, either from channel scanning, or from listings info. [19:25] Call signs are correct. [19:25] yeah what i'm saying is that if you want the data to sync up, you have to modify the channel scanning callsigns sometimes [19:25] to match what the callsigns are coming in from the listings info [19:25] I see. Thanks. [19:28] Hi, i've been trying to install mythtv but failed twice. After the failure the harddrive starts to work intensly. [19:28] Well, strange. One of the working channels is 4-1. Mythweb lists its call sign as "NBC HD", while schedules direct lists it as "KOBDT", yet I still get valid channel listings for that one. [19:28] Is this the right forum? [19:29] tritium, the callsign and channel "name" are different fields [19:29] egyn, that likely means that there was a problem with mysql user and or password [19:30] egyn, and that mythtv-backend is continually trying to connect over and over [19:30] without luck [19:30] superm1: that sounds fair since it happens after mysql tries to start [19:30] start = install [19:30] but there is some failure (which i havent logged/written down) [19:30] egyn, did you previously have mysql installed/configured? [19:30] i've tried from a clean install of ubuntu 64-bit. no mysql preinstalled [19:31] and i am testing with hardy [19:31] ah okay [19:31] superm1: I know. I'm looking specifically at the callsign field only. [19:31] well the likely cause is that when you got a prompt for a "root" password, you put something in [19:31] should i try and isntall mysql before trying ti install myth? [19:32] egyn, no, but this is why mythbuntu control centre was made available [19:32] yes, i entered root pw twice [19:32] to work around this problem- [19:32] so at this point [19:32] ok [19:32] is this a "confirmed" problem? [19:32] you need to dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-common [19:32] make sure that everything is valid [19:32] then dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database [19:32] make sure everything is valid [19:32] when it asks for the "mythtv" user's password, just hit enter [19:33] but make sure you enter your root password when it asks for it [19:33] tritium, hum well that's particularly odd then :) [19:34] tritium, you should be able to just drop xmltvids in place if it comes down to it [19:34] superm1: before i start this all over again. it is possible to install mythtv without having a tv-card? i want to evalute the software [19:35] superm1: thanks, I'll try that. [19:35] egyn, well starting all over won't solve things unless you purge packages. the solution i presented to you should get you working from the current state [19:35] egyn, it's possible to install it, but the biggest benefit comes from having a tv card [19:35] superm1, this is another machine with a recent clean install [19:35] egyn, if this is a clean install, i would recommend just installing from a mythbuntu disk [19:35] superm1: i intend to get a tv-card in the near future [19:35] or installing from the apt-url on the website [19:36] superm1: i am downloading the iso as we speak but i _want_ to install aftter ubuntu :) [19:36] i like to install programs :) [19:36] egyn, then you should try to do it from the control center [19:36] click the "Add to ubuntu" link on the website [19:36] and do it that route [19:37] be sure to purge mysql-server* and mythtv* before doing so [19:37] to clean up any mess that was made right now [19:37] yes, is that "qadd to ubuntu" same as installing via synapcit? [19:37] yeah it calls synaptic to install the package [19:38] Great [19:39] I initially intend to be able to use this machine as a front/backend while being able to work on it as a desktop [19:39] yeah then add to ubuntu should work out better for you [19:39] i figured the same [19:40] but later on extend it with additional .. frontends [19:40] my mind wants frontend to be backend :) [19:40] superm1: if I enter the XMLTVID, do I have to restart the mythtv backend to get it to show up in the listings, or do another mythfilldatabase? [19:41] tritium, both i believe [19:41] superm1: ok, thanks [19:42] superm1: when i look at "http://mythbuntu.com/existing-ubuntu" the 2nd step states that i "must be runningn gusty". i am running hardy on a 64-bit computer. will this be impossielbe? [19:42] that would be a typo if it says that. [19:42] let me see [19:42] it says gutsy or later [19:42] ah, or later [19:43] i would prefer "at least 7.10".. but that is a matter of taste i guess :) [19:43] hey superm1 [19:43] hi frink_ [19:43] how goes things [19:43] Well, i'll fire away the install. [19:44] egyn, alrighty :) [19:55] Ok, progress so far, i was apointed a password for mythtv-common [19:55] and then mythtv-status tried to update and i see "sorry, failed to fetch http://localhost:6544/xml" [19:56] However this step seems to be successful [20:01] When i look in the control center for the system roles i see that by default the "server" is set to "no server" and that "client" is set to "client" [20:01] If i want to run a front/backend on the same machine, should i set it to primary server and client [20:02] What i did last time was not to go into this control center but rather try out mythtv frontend right away [20:02] then mysql started to install [20:02] etc [20:02] i'll read the 8.04 install manual now - doh =) [20:03] ah.. TeX, wonderful [20:03] TeX where? [20:03] the pdf-manual [20:03] Yep. [20:04] i wrote my master thesis using latex, nice to send word up the ")(#D [20:04] :) [20:05] superm1: well, I added XMLTVIDs to the two channels that I wasn't getting listing info for, and now they're the only two that have listing info. The other channels *lost* their listing info. [20:08] semi-off-topic, is the XFCE4 desktop less resource hungry than Gnome? [20:08] somewhat [20:08] Ok, [20:08] is Kubuntu based on KDE? [20:09] which is also less resource hungry? [20:09] but mythtv doesn't really use any major features of any of those [20:09] I read chapter 3.3 which talked about "excess bloat of an existing install" [20:09] Oh well. [20:09] back to reading [20:10] before I used mythbuntu, I didn't use any GNOME, KDE, or XFCE components, except a terminal emulator [20:10] egyn: kubuntu _is_ based on KDE, but I don't believe it to be less resource hungry [20:10] I didn't even have a window manager [20:11] tritium: i remember that i installed kubuntu on a low spec machine based on such a statement "less resource hungry" [20:11] if i rembmer correctly [20:12] egyn: I guess it depends on whose statements you believe [20:12] if you want to install as little as possible, use an Ubuntu alternate install CD and just use the "text" option [20:12] Greybeard: yes [20:13] but the mythbuntu install CD is more automatic [20:13] but that is not of interest for me atm [20:13] well i aim to use this server as a desktop as well [20:13] server = backend? [20:13] oh [20:13] in mythtv terms? [20:14] yes [20:14] so, you're not planning to use it as a frontend? [20:14] You can use the same machine as both. [20:14] of course [20:14] thanks, i have the control center in swedish .. and it says "client" and "server" [20:14] i will use it as both [20:14] initially as a frontend+backend+desktop [20:14] you can easily add or take things away later [20:15] and i would like to output mythtv to one of my motherboards display outputs [20:15] different from the desktop? [20:15] while working on the desktop on another [20:15] possibly [20:16] i have not really understood this part fully yet though [20:16] if they're entirely different hardware devices, you can probably run independent X servers [20:16] same hardware device [20:16] superm1: I went ahead and added xmltvids for all channels [20:16] or you can put definitions for both cards and screens in the same xorg.conf [20:16] Now the channel listings are complete. [20:16] Greybeard: thus outputting screen 0 to say the vga output and screen 1 to dvi? [20:17] so, you'll want one X display with two screens [20:17] yeah, you can do that [20:17] i'll back up a bit [20:17] one screen will be :0.0 and one will be :0.1 [20:17] i've only got one gfxcard [20:17] which can output vga/dvi/hdmi [20:17] you can set up multiple screens for X [20:17] which X driver are you using? [20:18] will that be a so called ... "cloned screen" [20:18] there are several different configuratoins [20:18] configurations [20:18] that is why it is confusing =) [20:18] I assume you want independent screens [20:18] ati [20:18] fxglr [20:18] (spelling might be wrong) [20:18] I'm not sure if there's a utility to set that up easily [20:19] you may have to edit xorg.conf [20:19] editing xorg is fine with me [20:19] the Ubuntu "Monitor Resolution Settings" might do it too [20:19] i tried that .. say 6 months ago on my laptop but that didnt work too well :) [20:19] but it might work better now on this desktop [20:20] although the motherboard is new [20:20] there are a number of potential pitfalls [20:20] The Screen Resolution applet on 8.04 works nicely with xrandr now. [20:20] well .. the laptop caused me a lot of pain [20:20] but that is history [20:20] xrandr? [20:20] different cards and drivers have different quirks [20:20] xrandr should be able to handle it, if the driver works correctly [20:21] I've had the ati/radeon driver crash when using xrandr commands [20:21] i've managed to get compiz working so i hope it's fine [20:21] but if that works, that's probably the best approach [20:21] altough i get some flickering with opengl [20:22] but that is a different topic [20:22] yeah, that's mostly independent [20:22] I haven't used fglrx much, since I've found the Free radeon driver to work better most of the time [20:23] do you play games? [20:23] gaming is not my main focus [20:23] not with the ATI card [20:23] i might start tetris or the occasional punch-out [20:23] if i'm wild i play some amiga games [20:23] for mythtv with an LCD TV connected to the DVI output of a radeon card, the "radeon" driver has worked best [20:23] oh well. i'll shut up and read again. [20:24] Greybeard: then maybe i should consider to use the free drivers [20:24] well, try it with what you have first probably [20:24] i've got a radeon 3200 hd [20:24] use whatever works for you [20:24] yes i'll keep on from my current setting [20:24] I have a 9600, so everything's probably different [20:25] i wouldnt know [20:25] * egyn is a happy amateur [20:25] the driver situation for ATI/AMD hardware is very complex [20:26] so i've discovered [20:26] but i dont want to buy windows [20:26] there's now the new free driver, but I have no experience with it yet [20:32] Ok, now i tried to add a primary server and mysql started installing and fails [20:35] are you using Mythbuntu Control Center? [20:35] yes [20:35] i tried adding a primary server and pressed apply [20:35] then it started downloading and isntalling [20:35] and fails at mysql [20:35] again, this is a clean install of ubuntu [20:36] mysql didn't start? [20:36] 64-bit hardy [20:36] did not start [20:36] "unpacking mysql-server (from .../mysql-server_5.0.51a-3ubuntu5.1_all.deb) ... [20:36] * Stopping mysql database server mysqld [20:37] I haven't started a new MythTV system from nothing using Mythbuntu, since I had an working system before Mythbuntu came along, so I'm not familiar with the exact sequence [20:37] ... fail! [20:37] no other messages? [20:37] you may need to try starting mysqld from a terminal to see errors [20:37] "there is a mysql server running, but we failed in our attempts to stop it" [20:37] "stop it yourself and try again" [20:37] so there was more messages :) [20:38] you can try "/etc/init.d/mysql restart" [20:39] i needed sudo [20:39] right [20:39] could this be the orpblem with the installscript? [20:39] sorry [20:39] so restarting mysql manually worked? [20:39] yes [20:40] I guess try the MCC thing again [20:40] that seemed to work [20:40] you selected "Primary Backend" and "Frontend" under "System Roles"? [20:41] i saw "starting server" and "starting "client" flashing by [20:41] yes, prim front/back [20:41] so, mythfrontend started? [20:42] i think so, how can i check most easily? [20:42] you'd see it [20:42] it would probably cover everything else up [20:42] i can see a mythbqackend process [20:42] (ps) [20:43] i see no new window/screen [20:43] I'm not sure what client was starting then [21:04] Ok, well i have a backend running now, but only as a a process, i cannot see a window [21:05] is it now safe to start the frontend? [21:34] Tada, [21:34] now it works [21:34] i'll check out the plugins since i have no tv-card =) [21:41] how can i control the image gallery, to start a slide show? do i need a remote control? [21:41]