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ackemefisto__: it does contains som interesting log data.. thx. im of for bed. take care00:00
mefisto__SmokeEater85911: maybe try googling for your router + kubuntu + wifi ?00:01
mcscruffis there an alternative for banshee that can do video podcasts without dieing00:01
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SmokeEater85911where are the network settings kept?00:05
SmokeEater85911(sry I just installed kubuntu)00:05
mefisto__mcscruff: apt-cache search video podcast00:05
mefisto__SmokeEater85911: Kmenu, System Settings, Network Settings00:06
SmokeEater85911ah there we go thanks00:07
SmokeEater85911i cant get this damn thing online to save my life00:07
SmokeEater85911bah im gonna give this thing a break then come back and bug you guys for more answers heh00:13
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dick-richardsonis there a remote-friendly utility that would allow me to browse the web and play locally stored media?00:29
mefisto__dick-richardson: what do you mean by "remote-friendly"?00:32
dick-richardsonsomething like mythtv, but without the extra overhead (e.g. I don't have a tuner or optical drive)00:32
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mefisto__dick-richardson: konqueror is a web browser and file browser, and can play most media files too. Is that what you mean?00:35
dick-richardsonthe only input device I'd use would be a remote control...could konqueror be controlled easily w/a remote?00:37
mefisto__dick-richardson: no idea, sorry00:39
dick-richardsonnp00:39
SmokeEater85911_k back again to try to solve this problem00:47
SmokeEater85911_anybody got a sec to help me with a WLAN issue?00:48
B_RavenWhich part of the wlan setup is proving troublesome? the card/router/etc?00:49
SmokeEater85911_well i get all the way in there where I type in my WEP key, and it attempts to connect and then i get nothing00:49
SmokeEater85911_it says failure to connect00:49
HighHo!wifi | SmokeEater8591100:50
ubottuSmokeEater85911: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs00:50
HighHoSmokeEater85911_: sounds like you might be using the wrong type enycription for the key maybe00:50
SmokeEater85911_hmm00:51
SmokeEater85911_it doesnt let me select the encryption type00:51
chiphi all . . . have a question about wubi. is there a problem with kubuntu download servers?00:51
mot_question00:51
mot_anybody know of any good linux printing utilities?00:52
SmokeEater85911_and it works with windows00:52
mot_i.e. i have 50 pictures that i want to print, and i want to print like 2-3 per page00:52
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SmokeEater85911_i have it set to WEP 128 passphrase00:53
SmokeEater85911_any ideas?00:54
Daisuke_IdoSmokeEater85911: 10 digits?00:55
chiphi all . . . have a question about wubi. is there a problem with kubuntu download servers?00:56
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KenwaHi00:58
KenwaHow come on a Kubuntu 8.04 KDE4 install, alot of applications are missing from the application launcher menu? One missing application being KMail. How do I edit the applicaton launcher menu?00:59
SmokeEater85911_sorry yeah its 10 digits01:01
SmokeEater85911_hmm01:02
SmokeEater85911_this is driving me nuts01:02
HighHomot_: If anything can something like digikam seems most likely but im not sure.01:02
HighHo!digikam01:03
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about digikam01:03
mot_thanks01:03
mefisto__mot: gwenview has a print wizard in the plugins menu, images, print wizard. you need to select the images first, then go to the print wizard01:04
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yaptopis there an app that'll scan an ip range?01:07
mefisto__Kenwa: you can get to kmail by starting kontact (in the office submenu) and you can edit the menu with kmenuedit (right-click Kmenu)01:07
SmokeEater85911_so nobody has any idea?01:08
poon>:|01:10
poonwhish i could help01:10
poondont know much about it.01:10
Denisewhat is a wifi?01:10
yaptopis there an app that'll scan an ip range?01:10
Deniseoh sorry01:10
DeniseI know it in french01:11
Daisuke_Ido!repeat | yaptop01:12
ubottuyaptop: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience01:12
yaptop...01:12
SmokeEater85911_wifi.. wireless internet01:12
SmokeEater85911_i cant get my wireless internet to work01:13
Deniseok01:13
Denisesorry I m lil dumb01:13
Daisuke_IdoSmokeEater85911_: try 64 bit hex01:13
DeniseI can<t help01:13
Daisuke_Idoi had the same issue on my laptop01:13
SmokeEater85911_where do I change the encryption type?01:13
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Daisuke_Idoin the dropdown on the window where you enter your key (i'm going from network-manager, not entirely sure about knetworkmanager, so it might not be exact)01:15
SmokeEater85911_the 64bit hex is still the 10 character passphrase?01:16
SmokeEater85911_ill give it another shot.. brb gotta boot into knubuntu01:17
reboot08hi all01:21
reboot08whats the bash command to grb file from the internet ?01:22
mefisto__wget01:23
reboot08ty01:23
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reboot08sudo-apt wget www.someplace.com filenam and extension?01:24
Stabapt-get01:25
reboot08apt-wget01:25
reboot08right?01:25
Stabapt-wget01:25
Stabwhat it does different?01:25
reboot08cool let me try suumin01:25
mefisto__reboot08: wget http://www.someplace.com/files/image.jpg01:25
mefisto__reboot08: "wget --help" or "man wget" for options and info01:26
reboot08awesome im trying to grab bx again01:27
reboot08i re-installed a clean full ubunto after a bad partition adventure hehe01:27
Nyadhi. every single help document on help.ubuntu.com states that in the console, control+u clears the current line, when it actually only clears what's before the text cursor01:32
|thunderhi all. i just switched to kde. how do I change my mouse settings ? cursor is too fast.01:34
Nyadclick on kmenu in bottom left. then go to kontrol centre, then keyboard and mouse01:35
yaptop__what is vdso?01:35
Nyadthen click on mouse and click on the advanced tab, change pointer acceleration01:35
mefisto__Nyad: ctrl-k clears what's in front of the cursor01:36
|thunderi dont see kontrol center. but i just found system settings, which is the same thing i think01:36
|thunderthanks01:36
|thunderi started compiz and now my desktop is gone. yikes.01:38
|thunderoh well. bbl01:39
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ASrockdoes anyone have any links to good Windows XP themes for kubuntu?01:49
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Leonhi01:51
mefisto__ASrock: try www.kdelook.org01:51
Leon?01:54
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kenwaHow can i edit a text file i do not have write rights to?02:00
bdizzlewhy does anything above standard efffects of compiz cause the title bar to disappear?02:01
bdizzlekenwa, open the folder as root02:01
bdizzleor, go into command line, navigate to the folder, then enter sudo kate <filename>02:01
nejodekenwa: ALT+F2, and write kdesu konqueror or kdesu dolphin or kdesu kate /folder/file02:02
kenwahow can i open the folder as root?  Sudo Kate says command not found02:03
bdizzlehmm, is kate not installed on your computer?02:04
Daisuke_Laptopkenwa: because it's sudo kate, not Sudo Kate02:04
Daisuke_Laptopcase sensitivity.02:04
bdizzleah, okay02:04
kenwakate works. sudo kate does not02:04
Daisuke_Laptopand nejode is right, always use kdesu for gui programs02:04
Daisuke_Laptop*for gui programs you need to run as root02:05
Daisuke_Laptopotherwise you can end up with some fun permissions problems02:05
doophas anyone reported a problem when the comp shuts off the monitor after so long?02:05
doopI just have a white screen02:05
kenwaYour saying i should use kdesu? How does that work?02:06
bdizzlekdesu is just the "sudo" in gui form02:07
kenwais there a /? equiv.02:07
kenwastill get comand not found02:08
kkathmanI am trying to write a CD using K3b but it keeps reporting "Unable to fixate disk" and "Cdrecord has no permission to open the device"  what's the best way to resolve this?02:10
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kkathmanThe settings detect the drive and all its characterisitics tho02:10
smartyis there anyway to edit the boot list when the comp starts, something like the BOOT.INI file in Windows?02:11
smartyanyone?02:12
nay_hi yo!02:12
oniomcrabon Linux ?02:12
nay_ya. on Kubuntu02:12
smartyyea02:12
kenwaso how do i open a directory as root? because kdesu kate will not work?02:12
smartykenwa: open the terminal there, and su root02:13
nay_hmm. su02:13
karlsmarty: /boot/grub/menu.lst02:13
nay_Terminal -> su02:13
karljust be careful02:13
smarty karl: thanks -- i'll try it02:13
kenwasu. nice. but i get authentication failure lol02:15
Dr_willisHmm.. i thought by default su dident work with kubuntu/ubuntu02:15
Dr_willissudo -s   for a root shell.02:15
Hydrogensudo -i*02:17
mefisto__that's better, sudo -i02:17
Dr_willisdepends. :) i got my .bashrc set up where i dont think it matters on my system02:18
reboot08AWAY reading up02:18
Dr_willisi just rember -s for 'shell' :)02:18
mefisto__if you're using konsole, you can get a root shell from the session menu too02:18
Dr_willishttp://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/05/09/a-root-shell-on-ubuntu-the-right-way/02:18
kenwagrr. Ok well sudo -s got me to the directory, and when i try using kate to open the file it say it is not installed. I try to install it, but the problem im trying to fix is with adept manager. There is a bad line in the source list02:19
Dr_willisI will confess... i normally use 'sux' :)02:19
Dr_willis!info sux02:19
ubottusux (source: sux): wrapper around su which will transfer your X credentials. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-3.2 (hardy), package size 8 kB, installed size 64 kB02:19
mefisto__kenwa: you mean kate is not installed?02:20
kenwait is, but i can't run it under root02:20
Dr_willisthat url i posted has some neat tricks for using sudo properly :)02:20
Dr_williskenwa,  could try some other editor I guess..02:20
kenwaThanks02:20
kenwawhat is command for OO?02:21
mefisto__kdesu kate should work. but "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list" should definitely work02:22
Dr_williskenwa,  try oo<tab>02:22
kenwakdesu kate does not. nano does.02:23
kenwaAny tips on using this. lol02:23
Dr_willis^X means control-X :)02:23
Dr_willisctrl-h for help I think... I hate nano02:24
oniomcrabVIM is the best02:24
Dr_willisthere are much better 'simple' text editors out for the console.. perhaps some day they will replace nano02:24
Dr_willismcedit is very handy02:25
kenwaGot it! Thanks!02:25
Daisuke_Laptoponiomcrab: while that's infinitely debatable and quite flamebaitish, i think it's safe to say that for a user NOT used to console text editors, vim is a pretty poor choice.02:25
nejodekenwa: if you open konqueror or dolphin or krusader with kdesu, you'll open them as root, from there you just click on the file to edit as root02:25
kenwaI need to get kate working for root now.02:25
nejode... but be cereful!02:25
jonnorsudo kate /file/you/want/to/open02:26
jonnor?02:26
jonnorin a terminal02:26
mefisto__kenwa: when you say kate doesn't work, does anything happen? error messages?02:26
kenwahmm.. all of those say not installed as root02:26
nejodehow about right clicking >actions> edit as root02:26
kenwaroot@ken-laptop:~# krusader02:26
kenwaThe program 'krusader' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:02:26
Ash-Fox!kde402:26
ubottuKDE 4.1.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. Packages can be found at  http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1 - Support in #kubuntu-kde402:26
Ash-FoxI think that help tip is outdated.02:27
mefisto__kenwa: are you logged in as root?02:27
kenwaim logged in as ken. In a reg terminal kate works, as well as dolphin, but if i open a terminal as root, they do not.02:27
jonnordont open a terminal as root02:29
kenwawell i installed kate under root, and now it says cannot connect to X server when trying to run02:29
nejodekenwa, come on man, just press ALT+F2 and write down what I told you...don't go to a terminal-konsole02:29
Daisuke_Laptopnejode: oh, no, because terminals are BAD and should never be used02:29
rasmusI vould like to install GTK+. Why isn't there an easy way like apt-get install gtk+? I have a hard time finding all depences and stuff. Is there any easy way?02:29
Ash-Foxrasmus, there is a easy way.02:30
Daisuke_Laptopyeah, install any program that uses gtk_02:30
Daisuke_Laptopgtk+, that is02:30
Ash-FoxOr install libgtk2.0-0 for version 2 of GTK02:30
kenwaWhat did you tell me? im already all set. I used nano to edit the file. Im us trying to figure out why i cant do the other things you guys said should work02:31
Ash-Foxlibgtk1.2 for 1.202:31
rasmusso, sudo apt-get libgtk2.0-0 right?02:31
Ash-Foxrasmus, that will install version 2, yes.02:31
rasmusgreat!02:31
jonnorsudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-002:31
jonnor;)02:31
reboot08yup02:31
rasmusStrange that it's not written at the homepage ;-)02:31
nejodeDaisuke_Laptop: I always use terminal-konsole-yakuake... but kenwa is getting mixed up with the root konsole02:32
jonnorwhat homepage? it will be different in every distro02:32
Ash-Foxyakuake is wonderful.02:32
Ash-Fox!gtk02:32
ubottuGTK is the !GIMP toolkit, which forms the base of !GNOME and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI02:32
jonnor!sudo02:33
ubottusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (Gnome), or !kdesu (KDE)02:33
jonnorfancy.02:33
rasmusoh, apparently i need GTK+2.12 what should i write then? Sorry, but i can't get it right on my own02:33
kenwaThanks.02:34
jonnoryou do know that there exists graphical interfaces to apt, so that you can browse packages ?02:34
jonnorwhat are you trying to install btw?02:35
rasmusyes, but i can't find it there02:35
rasmusI want to compile the new version of xpad (only the old one is availible with adept). So i need gtk 2.1202:36
jonnorsudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-002:37
bdizzlewhy does anything above standard efffects of compiz cause the title bar to disappear on my computer?02:37
jonnorprobably because compiz is unable to replace kwin's decorator02:38
rasmusi've allready got libgtk2.0-0, i need gtk+ 2.1202:39
jonnorlibgtk2.0-0 is 2.12.9 on my system :)02:39
jonnorprobably on yours as well02:39
contrast83Greets, everyone...02:41
contrast83Anyone know of a good PCMCIA wireless card that works out of the box with *buntu?02:41
nay_buntu02:42
nay_dunno!02:42
contrast83nay_: *buntu=Ubuntu/Kubuntu/etc.02:42
nejodecontrast83: Trend-net  ....atheros based02:42
nay_yes, i know. I mean i dunno  about the card. :-)02:43
contrast83nay_: oh ok... nejode: not finding any trend-nets on ebay. are you saying pretty much any atheros based cards should work though?02:45
bdizzlejonnor: is there a way to fix that?02:45
nejodeat least all that I've tried... and out of the bos with gutsy and hardy02:46
jonnoryoure going to have to google it02:46
jonnorif its a gommon problem it will be there02:46
jonnor'common.02:46
jonnorif its not, then it could be hard fixing it im afraid02:47
nay_bb everyone !02:47
contrast83nejode: thanks for the tip. i'm off.02:49
contrast83peace, y'all.02:49
s-n-gY a des francais ici02:53
s-n-gFrench speakers ?02:53
s-n-gSo; Hello All :); I have a little probleme with amorok... I can't show song playing in Pidgin02:54
s-n-gThe script is intall and activate but don't run02:54
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yaptopwhat is that expose like program for kubuntu03:01
ryan------I have an issue with my USB mouse&audio: after the system has been up for a while, at least 3-4 hours, the USB (I noticed it first with mouse, wasn't using usb audio at the time) starts cutting in and out, it's like it cuts in for a second, then out for a second, audio is doing the same now03:04
shadowhywindhay all having abit of a problem. when i boot i am getting a udevd-event[####]: run programs: `/sbin/modprobe` abnormal exit03:09
nejoderyan-----: is it a Lenovo by any chance?03:10
Stabhow can I know the version of my Bios?03:10
ryan------no, desktop, custom built03:11
ryan------works fine in windows03:11
nejoderyan----: I've had that same problem with Lenovo laptops, had to flash the BIOS03:12
mefisto_Stab: usually it's displayed before boot, one of the first things you see on screen03:12
ryan------ah03:13
mefisto_Stab: sudo lshw might tell you too. look in the motherboard section03:14
Stabok03:14
Stabty03:14
Stabit diesn,t work03:15
Stabdoesnt03:15
mefisto_Stab: does sudo lshw show you what motherboard you have?03:16
Stabit says unknown command03:16
mefisto_Stab: sudo lshw03:17
Stabok03:18
StabI will print that03:18
rasmusso i've encountered a strange problem. According to Jonnor libgtk2.0-0 is containing GTK+ 2.12. How ever. I have libgtk2.0 installed (as far as i understand). But when i want to comfigurea a file it complains about lack of gtk+2.1203:19
TheMaxzillaIs there any way of changing the name of my computer?03:20
mefisto_rasmus: this will show you info about the package: apt-cache show libgtk2.0-003:20
TheMaxzillaAs in, the terminal. max@max-laptop:~$ , I want to change the Max-laptop part.03:21
mefisto_rasmus: mine says this: Version: 2.12.9-3ubuntu203:21
raimundo_hey how can i know if my wireless is actually working03:21
raimundo_im not using it right now cause i dont have wi fi in my house03:22
raimundo_and i just bought this laptop and start using it with kubuntu03:22
raimundo_so i dont know if my wireless is it actually working03:22
TheMaxzillaraimundo_: sudo iwconfig, i think03:23
Stabcan I upgrade it in root?03:23
raimundo_ty03:23
rasmusMefisto (my hero ;-) so, why do you think i get this message when i configure xpad "libgtk2.0-0 is 2.12.9 on my system :)"03:24
rasmussorry, that got a bit strange03:24
mefisto_TheMaxzilla: you want to change your hostname. you can just type: hostname whatever-you-want03:25
mefisto_TheMaxzilla: but to make it permanent (after reboots) you have to edit /etc/hostname03:25
mefisto_rasmus: what's the message you get?03:27
Ashex!amarok > me03:29
ubottuAshex, please see my private message03:29
Ashex!cddb > me03:29
Ashexanyone have cddb lookup working in amarok?03:31
mefisto_Ashex: I think it's working03:37
Ashexblegh03:37
Ashexit's not working for me03:37
mefisto_does amarok open audio cds?03:38
rasmusmefisto, "checking for GTK+ - version >= 2.12.0... no *** Could not run GTK+ test program, checking why...*** The test program failed to compile or link. See the file config.log for the*** exact error that occured. This usually means GTK+ is incorrectly installed.configure: error:  *** GTK+ 2.12 is required to build Xpad; please make sure you have the GTK+  *** development headers installed. The latest version of GTK+03:38
rasmusis  *** always available at http://gtk.org/."03:38
SmokeEater85911hey Alex, i got the wlan to work03:38
Ashexmefisto_, yes03:38
Ashexamarok spits this out in terminal when i load the cd:03:38
Ashexamarok: ERROR: : couldn't create slave : Unable to create io-slave:03:38
Ashexklauncher said: Unknown protocol 'cdda'.03:38
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SmokeEater85911Alex135: It was just on the wrong setting =X03:39
Alex135sweet!03:40
mefisto_SmokeEater85911: what did you do to get it working?03:40
Alex135great job :)03:40
SmokeEater85911it was just a different encryption03:40
Alex135hehe03:40
Alex135forgot to change it to wep?03:41
SmokeEater85911now Im trying to figure out all the crazy "Linuxness"03:41
SmokeEater85911not it needed to be hex03:41
Alex135its not crazy. i have used it for 4 years.... its not crazy ;)03:41
SmokeEater85911like trying to install firefox was fun...03:41
SmokeEater85911its not like windows and doesnt have "install.exe" that installs it all and boom done03:41
SmokeEater85911i clicked on a bunch of files and one of them finally opened the install hah03:41
Alex135hehe03:42
mefisto_SmokeEater85911: it's easy to type sudo apt-get install firefox03:42
SmokeEater85911I looked up online how to install it, and it wanted me to type a bunch of craziness in the command :X03:42
SmokeEater85911yeah.. i dont know what ANY of those commands do haha03:42
SmokeEater85911I need basic linux for dummies03:42
Alex135smokeeaters85911: i have that book :P03:43
SmokeEater85911haha I need it!03:43
Alex135smokeeaters85911: complete desktop reference03:43
Alex135smokeeaters85911: 5 books in 103:43
Alex135smokeeaters85911: huge thing03:43
SmokeEater85911like as far as i know sudo means fake (pseudo) lol03:43
ryan------su = super user03:43
ryan------do = the action, do03:43
ryan------super user do (command) sudo03:43
SmokeEater85911*confused* haha03:44
ryan------lol03:44
ryan------all good03:44
SmokeEater85911I'll get the hang of it eventually03:44
Alex135smokeeaters85911: its easy to understand after a bit03:44
SmokeEater85911Im trying to avoid windows as much as possible, and learn a new OS for the first time03:44
Alex135smokeeaters85911: after you screw up linux 5 or 6 times you will figure out what to and not to do :P03:44
SmokeEater85911Im still trying to figure out once it installs Firefox, WHERE it installs it to03:44
Alex135dont bother with that03:45
rasmusmefisto: did you see my answer?03:45
mefisto_SmokeEater85911: http://monkeyblog.org/ubuntu/installing/#installing_with_terminal03:45
SmokeEater85911the equivalent to C:\Program Files\FireFox03:45
Alex135its not as important to know as some other things03:45
Alex135there is no equivalent to program files03:45
Alex135its sorta complicated03:45
B_RavenActually, once you learn a bit about the system the linux way is a lot faster, and easier. At least in my experience. The first few months can be a bit intimidating, but would be intimidating when switching from any OS to any other OS.03:45
SmokeEater85911whats faster than windows key + E and click on C:/ and go from there lol03:46
SmokeEater85911but yeah Im trying to find a good website designed for idiots like me who wanna learn Linux03:46
B_RavenIf you insist on the command line "firefox" then hit enter. :-P03:46
Alex135its not hard... trust me... im only 15 and i had it down in less then 4 years... if this kid can do it so can anyone else03:47
mefisto_SmokeEater85911: or try katapult for starting programs03:47
B_RavenAnd to add applications all you need to do is open up adept (AKA: "Add/Remove Programs" in the kmenu) and search for what you want.03:47
SmokeEater85911I almost dont like how similar to windows nubuntu is03:48
SmokeEater85911It looks pretty familiar to Vista03:48
Alex135oh trust me, it is not similer in any way03:48
Alex135thats what kde4 is ment to be03:48
Alex135i should have made sure you were on kde303:48
SmokeEater85911you guys like Kubuntu more than Ubuntu?03:48
Alex135you would have had an easier time03:48
B_RavenCan be deceptive on the surface in some ways.03:49
SmokeEater85911yea?03:49
Alex135Smokeeater85911: kde4 is harder to learn then kde303:49
Alex135Smokeeater85911: also that version is still in development03:49
SmokeEater85911roger, well its a steep learning curve but once you learn something hard, everything is easier03:49
B_RavenGnome seems to dumb things down a little more than I like, so been a KDE user since I first started using linux almost a decade ago.03:49
SmokeEater85911i do like how most of my little buttons on the side of my laptop automatically work and i dont need to install drivers03:50
concernedcitizenwhere can I get cool linux swag to paste on my thinkpad?03:50
Alex135i just wanted one that was similer to windows so i could find my way around... i came across kde and i was saved03:50
Alex135actually... i started with kde03:50
Alex135i started with Fedora core 403:50
Alex135after 7 i switched to ubuntu03:50
Alex135and installed KDE03:51
Alex135i have had it that way ever since03:51
Alex135i actually switched last christmass03:51
SmokeEater85911concernedcitizen: they have "powered by ubuntu" stickers03:51
B_Ravenconcernedcitizen, most linux stores have some shinies that'd work.03:51
SmokeEater85911are you on KDE3 or 4?03:51
concernedcitizenain't no linux stores where I'm at.03:51
Alex135im in kde303:51
Alex135i personally like it better03:51
Alex135i can find things better03:51
B_Ravenconcernedcitizen, online linux stores in your country?03:52
Stabhow come I m not able to open katapult?03:52
SmokeEater85911concernedcitizen: its online03:52
concernedcitizenwait a second, online linux stores like?03:52
SmokeEater85911maybe i should downgrade to KDE3?03:52
mefisto_Stab: have you installed katapult?  I don't think it's installed by default03:53
Alex135considering how new your install is... i would just reinstall useing a diff cd03:53
StabI did03:53
SmokeEater85911a cd with KDE3 rather than 4?03:53
Stabbut when i click on it I have option to configuration03:53
Alex135yes03:53
Stabbut not to open session03:53
mefisto_Stab: alt-F2, then type katapult03:53
Alex135SmokeEater85911: ill find the link03:54
SmokeEater85911well I plan to fix this partition problem anyway, so I have to format it anyway03:54
B_Ravenconcernedcitizen, only been to one, and it's in norway. Have seen some case badges on some hardware mod stores here and there.03:54
Stabk03:54
Alex135SmokeEater85911: http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download03:54
Alex135dont have it do the kde4 remix03:55
SmokeEater85911the top one that says supported until October?03:55
Alex135the rest you are the only person that can figure it out... cuz i dont know what your machine specs are03:55
Alex135yes03:55
Alex135october next year03:55
SmokeEater85911I still need to fix this partition problem before I take linux any farther03:55
SmokeEater85911stupid windows POS03:55
Alex135dont worry, you will have to reinstall a few times from screwing up your system before then03:55
Stabis there a max hd capacity that i can install on a pentium 1V?03:55
SmokeEater85911maybe somebody in here can help with my partition problem03:56
Alex135SmokeEater, best solution... reformat and install windows takeing up 1/2 the space03:56
mefisto_what about qtparted?03:56
Stabhow u can do that03:57
SmokeEater85911I have a 250gb HDD, 190GB free, and it wont let me make a partition larger than 20GB.. I want to make about 80-100GB partition03:57
SmokeEater85911I need to avoid formatting windows at all costs03:57
SmokeEater85911any ideas on that one?03:58
Alex135i hate messing with partitions personally.... the ubuntu intall cd can resize the windows partition without loosing your data to a degree easily03:58
mefisto_SmokeEater85911: the easy and safe way is to buy a new hard disk exclusively for kubuntu03:58
Alex135ah yes mefisto__ is right03:58
mefisto_they are so cheap these days03:58
Alex135you can also boot across hdd's easier aswell... (thats how i have it setup)03:58
Staba new hd and u don,t need to reformat windows?03:58
SmokeEater85911yeah Id have to wait and I dunno if my laptop has another slot for a 2nd HDD03:59
Alex135oh laptop, forgot about that03:59
Alex135bad idea03:59
mefisto_Stab: leave the windows disk alone, and install kubuntu on the new disk. easy03:59
SmokeEater85911granted one version of my laptop has 2 HDDs, Id have to take it apart and look if there is another slot03:59
Stabok03:59
Alex135SmokeEater, what you can do is just take out the windows one and put in the linux one when you use linux03:59
SmokeEater85911then just get a cheap low storage HDD on ebay03:59
Stabsomeone told me i had to reformat both disks04:00
Alex135its a messed up way, but thats what i did with the windows vista hdd for my laptop, i kept it in 1 piece just to keep from voiding the warenty :D04:00
SmokeEater85911i have a spare laptop HDD lying around here somewhere I think its 80gb..04:00
SmokeEater85911but its IDE and i think this uses ATA04:00
Staband what is the largest hd I can install?04:00
Alex135Sata04:00
Alex135stab: depends on the laptop04:01
StabI m a pc04:01
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Alex135stab: depends on the file system :P04:01
reboot08sup04:01
Stabwhat u nean?04:01
Robdamn04:01
Stabmean04:01
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B_RavenSmokeEater85911, IDE, ATA, and PATA are different names for the same kind of disk.04:01
Alex135stab: well... 1 sec ....04:01
SmokeEater85911i dunno.. I dont really have the money for another HDD right at the moment.. Id have to wait a while04:02
Alex135stab: some file systems can hold up to 8 exabytes see the table on this page... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byte04:02
SmokeEater85911I guess while I wait it gives me time to test different versions of Linux on my 20GB heh04:02
Stabk04:02
Alex135stab: hdd's that size dont exist04:02
Stabur kidding me04:03
Alex135not kidding04:03
Alex135im not kidding at all04:03
Stabbut with a pentium Iv04:03
Alex135doesn't really matter04:03
Stabcani install kinda 500GB?04:03
mefisto_SmokeEater85911: I'm running on a 20gb disk. I can't run vm stuff, but there's still room to install things I don't really need04:03
Alex135i thikn you can04:03
Alex135think*04:03
mefisto_Stab: definitely04:03
Stabur link is screem04:04
SmokeEater85911*sigh*04:04
Alex135:D04:04
Staband a 750GB?04:04
SmokeEater85911hmm how slow would it be to run linux off an external?04:04
Alex135i wouldn't go higher then 500gb just because its a waste when the drive dies04:04
Alex135i would probably buy multiple 500gb04:04
Alex135if needed04:04
Alex135currently however i only have 1 320gb hdd :(04:05
Stabbut i had a deal for 750gb04:05
Stabsame as 50004:05
reboot08noob here how do i see what is in scr-bx ?04:05
SmokeEater85911Alex: my external is a 500 but even being firewire id imagine it would be slow as hell04:05
mefisto_yeah it's crazy, the larger they are, the cheaper they get04:05
Alex135then i would go for the 750 just for the heck of it04:05
Stabk04:05
Alex135smoke, i wouldn't do it anyway.... externals are a pain04:06
Stabwhat I m doing with the link u sent me04:06
Stabit is Screem screen04:06
SmokeEater85911so my best bet is to cough up some cheddar for another HDD..04:06
Alex135the yottabyte reminds me of starwars :P04:06
Alex135master yotta :P04:06
Alex135smoke, yes04:06
SmokeEater85911how do I set my default internet browser on here?04:07
rasmusMefisto, do still have the time to help me? And did you see my answer?04:07
SmokeEater85911i have Konquerer and Firefox04:07
Alex135firefox is already installed i think04:07
Alex135by default kde uses knoqueror for most things and you cant alwase change that, but i still use firefox04:07
SmokeEater85911*lame*04:07
Alex135im just saying i dont know how to change04:07
Alex135it is possible though04:07
Alex135i just dont feel like looking stupid to ask the question :P04:08
Alex135its already setup the way i like it anyway04:08
mefisto_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext3#Size_limits04:08
reboot08there r no stupid questions only stupid people"Mr Garrison"04:08
SmokeEater85911well ill mess with some stuff on here, then hop back on windows, download the kde3 pack and try again..04:08
mefisto_rasmus: sorry what was your question?04:09
reboot08any help with how to use scripts with Bx?04:09
Alex135goodluck smoke04:09
Alex135Stab: let me find the file system that can hold that much04:10
Stabu mean screem04:10
mefisto_rasmus: was it the gtk thing?04:10
Stabit is ok04:10
StabI got it04:10
Alex135Stab: i find it crazy though04:11
Alex135Stab: it blows my mind04:11
Stabwhat?04:11
Alex135Stab: Pettabyte is the limit that i can comprehend04:11
Alex135out of that just seems impracticle04:11
Stabtera for me04:12
Alex135but a yottabyte?04:12
Alex135i mean... all i can think of is starwars!04:12
Alex135and master... yotta :P04:12
B_RavenI work with 200-500MB image files for a living, have no issue comprehending really large sizes.04:12
SmokeEater85911i lied, Ill stay in here to ask dumb questions as I find things lol04:13
reboot08wb04:13
SmokeEater85911like what is ark04:13
Alex135ark is what noah put the animals on... next question :P04:13
Alex135(joke)04:13
B_RavenSmokeEater85911, Archive manager. (zip files and so on)04:13
SmokeEater85911ah, basically winzip04:14
B_RavenSmokeEater85911, Is a frontend, so depends on which apps you have installed in addition, like rar/unrar.04:14
Alex135ya, something like that04:14
Alex135!ark04:14
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about ark04:14
Alex135dang04:14
Alex135!rar04:14
ubotturar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free04:14
SmokeEater85911gotcha04:15
SmokeEater85911like Im trying to install a flash player and it asked if I wanted to open it with Ark04:15
mefisto_the kde4 version of ark doesn't seem to support all archive types, eg rar, zip04:15
Alex135ooh... flash04:15
Alex135hard to get flash working04:15
Alex135not for beginers04:15
B_RavenAlex135, Hard?04:16
Alex135well... it can be04:16
rasmusMefisto: yes, this is what i get as message04:16
Alex135B_Raven: took me a while to get flash and java working fully in ubuntu04:16
mefisto_SmokeEater85911: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree04:16
mefisto_!flash04:16
ubottuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (a recent version for !Dapper is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash04:16
B_RavenAlex135, Opened up adept, searched for flash and installed it. Was fairly painless. Granted, if you need a never version it can be a bit of a pain.04:16
Alex135B_Raven: i use latest versions, so ya, pain for me04:17
rasmusmefisto: "checking for GTK+ - version >= 2.12.0... no*** Could not run GTK+ test program, checking why...*** The test program failed to compile or link. See the file config.log for the*** exact error that occured. This usually means GTK+ is incorrectly installed.configure: error:  *** GTK+ 2.12 is required to build Xpad; please make sure you have the GTK+  *** development headers installed. The latest version of GTK+ is04:17
rasmus *** always available at http://gtk.org/."04:17
Alex135B_Raven: but its a great learning experiance04:18
SmokeEater85911yeah i downloaded it and extracted it and its just a shell script, so Ill try the sudo thingy ;)04:18
mefisto_rasmus: do you need to build xpad? isn't it in repos?04:18
Stabis it big?04:18
B_RavenAlex135, It's not something users should be faced with as soon as installing linux, but aye, once you get a few months under your belt and have lost your fear of breaking the system (after doing so a few times) it can be very educational.04:19
rasmusrepos?04:20
Alex135B_Raven: i know :)04:20
navetz__how can I request a new ip address from my isp from the command line?04:20
SmokeEater85911beep me if ya need me, im gonna go try to break the system ;)04:20
Alex135B_Raven: 4 years under my belt allows me to help people out in this channel ;)04:20
B_RavenAlex135, Still remember my first (and only) kernel compile. Taught me a lot about linux.04:20
Alex135B_Raven: havn't botherd to try and compile a kernel myself.... just let vmware custom compile one :P04:20
rasmusMefisto: I want the newest version of xpad since there's a bug in my current version. How ever, the only version i can get via adept is the old one04:20
mefisto_rasmus: in konsole, type: sudo apt-get install xpad04:21
rasmusokej04:21
mefisto_rasmus: I see04:21
B_RavenAlex135, I'd recommend it, actually. If only to do it once, even if the compiled kernel will never be used.04:21
Alex135B_Raven: ill try it out when the next kernel versions come out... (its supposed to have support for every webcam ever made)04:21
rasmusso, it says that i've got the newest version already04:21
reboot08is there a belarc version for linux?04:22
Stabwhat is ark couldnt create slave?04:22
Stabunable to create io-slave04:22
Alex135B_Raven: i just blow my own mind with how much i know at my age.... i remember my first few screwed up systems of linux....04:23
rasmusMefisto. Sorry! I'm stupid! I didn't check. Now i see that i got the newest one, also according to the projekt site. Strange how ever that the bug remains04:23
B_RavenAlex135, The first one is absolutely terrifying. :P04:23
rasmushow do i uninstall xpad and erase every file associated with it?04:23
Alex135B_Raven: i know :P04:23
SmokeEater85911Alex you said you are 15?04:23
Alex135yes04:23
Alex135why?04:24
SmokeEater85911geeze.. i have a 15 year old telling me how to do this stuff, and Im 23 haha04:24
Alex135lol, thanks for the compliment ;)04:24
SmokeEater85911when i was 15 i barely knew anything about computers04:24
Alex135oh, i got into linux at 1104:24
SmokeEater85911I knew my way around nutscrape navigator though haha04:24
Alex135;)04:24
B_RavenSmokeEater85911, Nothing to be concerned about, I'm 25 and I still take advice from people half my age at times.04:24
SmokeEater85911they are the future man, its scary04:25
Alex135your future is in my hands, MUAHAHAHAHA :D04:25
SmokeEater85911my son is going to be 1000 times more intelligent than i am04:25
SmokeEater85911except that guy ;) jk04:25
Alex135funny04:25
Alex135:P04:26
SmokeEater85911anyway, back to trying to install something04:26
B_RavenSmokeEater85911, Intelligence and knowledge has no known correlation.04:26
Alex135B_Raven: my first real problem was getting a supper old nvidia card working... i have so much experiance in it now that im able to get ANY nvidia card working on almost ANY linux distro...04:26
Alex135although... i do have an above average iq (not to brag) so thats probably how i caught onto linux so fast04:27
mefisto_rasmus: try installing gtk2 development files: sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev04:27
SmokeEater85911i think my nVIDIA card works, it doesnt say that it isnt working (i think(04:27
Alex135do you get the nvidia logo at startup?04:27
SmokeEater85911I dont think so04:28
Alex135then it aint worken i dont think04:28
SmokeEater85911but I didnt when i was using windows either04:28
B_RavenAlex135, Actually kind of funny that, a really new nvidia card is the reason I switched from debian to kubuntu yesterday. Debian was simply far too outdated for it to work.04:28
rasmusMefisto: Well, i think that the problem is elsewhere ;-)04:28
rasmusI was stupid, indeed04:28
Stabark is for installing a second hd?04:28
rasmusBut how do i do to completly erase every trace of xpad04:28
SmokeEater85911Im using a geForce 8700M04:29
Alex135B_Raven: i need to tell someone that... he thinks Debian is "da bomb"04:29
B_RavenAlex135, Actually, the kubuntu nvidia driver installer sets "nologo" as default.04:29
mefisto_rasmus: the error message you pasted includes this: make sure you have the GTK+  *** development headers installed.04:29
Alex135B_Raven: ah ok, thats why.... i remember now i have the logo set to be on for me so i know everything is working right04:29
B_RavenAlex135, It is, if you need rock solid and throughly tested.04:29
mefisto_rasmus: sudo apt-get remove --purge xpad04:29
Alex135B_raven: i prefer to have a few probs once in a while... keeps my brain working ;)04:30
SmokeEater85911actually i dont think its working04:30
SmokeEater85911it says its using a VESA driver for the graphics04:30
Alex135.....04:30
Dr_willisAlex135,  i do the same thing. Logo = shows nvidia driver dident get messed up :)04:30
Stabty alex04:30
Stabnigth04:30
Alex135cya stab04:30
Stabnight04:30
Alex135:)04:30
rasmusMefisto: Thanks alot! May the force be with you! ;-)04:31
Stabnight smoke04:31
SmokeEater85911nite04:31
B_RavenSmokeEater85911, kmenu->System->Hardware Device Manager.  Does it have the nvidia drivers marked off?04:31
Alex135oh smoke... here is why i told you to have ext3 as the file system...04:31
SmokeEater85911k so I sort of got an idea how to configure this..04:31
Alex135!ext3|SmokeEater8591104:32
ubottuSmokeEater85911: ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org04:32
SmokeEater85911it says VESA not nVIDIA04:32
SmokeEater85911so I clicked Administrator mode, and clicked configure04:32
Alex135i really cant help much on KDE4 :(04:32
SmokeEater85911it has a big list of cards and such04:32
Alex1351 sec04:33
SmokeEater85911the closest to mine installed though it just says GeForce4 (generic)04:33
mefisto_SmokeEater85911: do what B_Raven said ^^04:33
B_RavenSame here I'm afraid, Not switching to KDE4 until amarok2 and the 177 nvidia linux drivers are out.04:33
Alex135wait... didn't you say you had a geforce 8 series?04:33
SmokeEater85911Raven, you mean driver menu?04:33
SmokeEater85911er yeah got me all confused, its a GeForce 8700M GT04:34
B_RavenNo, it's an application that's put on the menu. Can't be 100% certain if KDE4 has it put there propperly, though.04:34
Alex135there should be an option then04:34
Alex135cuz i have an option for the geforce 6 series (my vid card)04:34
SmokeEater85911no just the DRIVER menu, not device04:35
SmokeEater85911one sec04:35
Alex135ya there is an option04:35
Alex135you probably need to install the newer driver package though04:35
SmokeEater85911i have it set to nVIDIA Geforce 8 series now, but i need to test it, one sec04:36
Alex135ok04:36
mefisto_SmokeEater85911: if you can't find the hardware manager tool in the menu, start it with: kdesu jockey-kde04:36
Alex135mefisto_ he is setting up the hardware settings first....04:37
Alex135in the display manager04:37
B_RavenWell, getting late. Time to head off. See you around.04:37
Alex135cya B_raven, nice talking to ya04:37
Alex135Smoke, everything ok?04:38
navetz_is there a linux equivilent to windows ipconfig -release ?04:39
Alex135erm.... ifdown eth0 and ifup eth0 ?04:40
Alex135that should work if your system is setup right04:40
mefisto_and if it's eth0. it might be eth1 or higher04:41
mefisto_ifconfig will tell you04:41
Alex135yes04:41
Alex135thats correct04:41
Alex135(forgot that even he has twin ethernet ports :P )04:42
Alex135oh man, i compleetly forgot about a fanfic i was reading a few hours ago04:45
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Dr_willisI saw a neat gizmo today in the store a 'networked' usb hub. You plug it into your wired (or wireless) network. plug in usb hard drives, scanners, printers. and  some how they appear on the network... Just what i need...04:55
Dr_willisBUT im researching how it workjs with linux if at all. Anyone seen such a device/used one?04:55
Dr_willisBelkin - Networked USB Hub http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8374519&type=product&productCategoryId=pcmcat2100050044&id=117892599236604:56
fernandoalo??04:57
fernandoalgien habla español?? jeje04:57
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marriacomment ca marche ctruc la04:57
Guest70846O.o04:58
Guest70846alo?¿04:58
marriajcomprends rien de c site la04:58
mefisto_Dr_willis: see if you can find a downloadable manual04:59
Dr_willismefisto_,  reading the FM right now. :)05:00
Dr_willisseems its XP/Vista32 bit only. and it uses some sort of fancy 'control' panel to allow pc's to access the devices05:00
Dr_willisa Neat idea/tool if it works well.. but linux is out in the cold it seems.05:00
Dr_willisBut is is about what the wife is wanting with her laptop.  shes using xp on it.05:01
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Dr_willisit is nice of the web site i found to have a manual i can download. :) http://syndicate.sellpoint.net/Syndicate/AssetRedirect?tt_aq=0-25947-179433-1040&ext_url=false&go=%2F__FileManager__%2FOrg_100_74%2F8408%2F8409%2FP75465_F5L009_mnl_hi-res.pdf05:03
smatt454will there be a way to use kde 3.x in 8.10?05:03
Dr_willissmatt454,  most likely yes.05:03
smatt454because i've heard discussions of there being no repos from ubuntu....would i jus thave to use a 3rd party repos?05:04
SmokeEater85911OMFG!05:04
SmokeEater85911it literally took me that whole entire time to find my way back05:05
smatt454?05:06
smatt454i've heard discussions of there being no repos for kde 3.5 from ubuntu....would i jus thave to use a 3rd party repos?05:06
smatt4543.X*05:06
Dr_willisNo idea. I imagine that will get hammered out soon.05:07
SmokeEater85911Alex135: sooo yeah that was fun NOT05:07
Alex135what hapened?05:08
SmokeEater85911well you know I was trying to fix my nvidia card right?05:09
Alex135ya05:09
SmokeEater85911so I clicked TEST and the screen went all funny and it wouldnt exit.. so I had to shut off the machine05:09
Alex135you hit esc05:09
Alex135or is it something else... .i forget05:09
SmokeEater85911then I couldnt figure out for the life of me where kubuntu installs firefox to05:10
SmokeEater85911its not esc05:10
Alex135oh then its ctrl alt backspace i think05:10
SmokeEater85911or ctrl+alt+del, or alt+f4 lol05:10
Alex135hit ctrl alt backspace05:10
SmokeEater85911so yeah it was fun trying to figure out where firefox was installed to05:10
mefisto_ctrl-alt-F7 would bring you back to the normal desktop05:10
SmokeEater85911i DID find the adept manager though, thats a neat little tool05:10
Dr_willisWhy would you need to know where firefox was installed to?05:10
SmokeEater85911because I couldnt get back on firefox lol05:11
Dr_willisThe package manager tools can tell you exactly what files a specific package installs where.05:11
Dr_willisSmokeEater85911,  that makes no sence.05:11
Dr_willis$ which firefox05:11
Dr_willis/usr/bin/firefox05:11
smatt454open a command prompt and type "locate firefox | grep bin"05:12
SmokeEater85911it does if Im 100% newb to linux lol05:12
Dr_willisSmokeEater85911,  no it does not. :)05:12
SmokeEater85911i dont know any commands for the command prompt05:12
mefisto_SmokeEater85911: you can just type "firefox" and it should start05:13
SmokeEater85911anywho, once going through the adept manager it automatically adds it to the list in the Kmenu05:13
smatt454if you type "firefox&" it will run, and not depend on konsole being open05:13
SmokeEater85911well now I know.. so back to getting my nVIDIA card working05:14
smatt454which version of kubuntu are you using?05:14
smatt454and which version of kde05:14
Alex135kde405:15
Alex135hardy05:15
SmokeEater85911what alex said05:15
SmokeEater85911i think im gonna downgrade to KDE3 though05:15
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smatt454i prefer kde305:15
smatt454but05:15
smatt454i haven't used 4.105:15
SmokeEater85911ya know, in the help menu it says KDE 3.505:15
SmokeEater859113.5.905:16
Alex135trust me, kde3 is much easier05:16
Alex135the help is outdated for that version05:16
Alex135thats why its still BETA05:16
smatt454which is why i'm scared that ubuntu's not going to support kde3 in 8.10 :(05:16
smatt454or so i've heard05:16
SmokeEater85911*sigh* so I really need to downgrade, since nobody uses kde4 (yet)05:17
Alex135ya05:17
Alex135i should have told you that earlier05:17
soniker89how to to uninstall Google gadget05:17
soniker89???05:17
SmokeEater85911yeah man, what the hell! lol jk05:17
smatt454well...i know some people that like kde405:18
mefisto_SmokeEater85911: if you install kde3, you can then install kde4 and have them both05:18
smatt454but kde3 is easy to customize05:18
Alex135thats cuz it looks like windows vista... BLAKG!05:18
Alex135(kde4)05:18
Alex135erm05:18
Alex135i tried that05:18
SmokeEater85911yeah, I dont like the windows look05:18
Alex135doesn't work out too well05:18
smatt454be warned....when i had kde3 and kde4 installed...and i uninstalled kde405:18
SmokeEater85911im trying to get away from M$ as much as possible haha05:18
smatt454it messed up kde305:18
Alex135ya it does mess up kde305:18
Alex135i would reinstall05:18
Alex135it screwed EVERYTHING up05:19
Alex135i had to redo everything i had05:19
smatt454me 205:19
SmokeEater85911the KDE3 version installs just the same as this one did?05:19
smatt454yes05:19
smatt454but dont uninstall kde405:19
mefisto_I've installed, uninstalled, then reinstalled kde4 without any problems05:19
smatt454they both use some of the same dependencies05:19
smatt454were you using kde3?05:19
SmokeEater85911k so ill go through and wipe this partition, and download the kde3 pack and install it05:19
smatt454you don't have to =/05:20
Alex135i would05:20
smatt454well05:20
SmokeEater85911i do if I only have 15gb to work with05:20
smatt454if you dont have important data05:20
SmokeEater85911(until i cough up more cash for another HDD)05:20
smatt454you can install kde3 along side of kde405:20
smatt454u dont need to create a new partition05:20
Alex135dont try it though05:20
smatt454but05:20
soniker89what is .:17:. /etc/default/control-setup mean05:20
smatt454if this is a new install05:20
SmokeEater85911eh if kde3 is so much better, no sense in taking up space with kde405:20
Alex135its a new install, deleate the partitions (both) and reinstall05:21
SmokeEater85911the new one and the swap space one?05:21
Alex135yes05:21
Alex135well05:21
Alex135i duno05:21
Alex135i would do it anyway05:21
Alex135i really dont know muc habout swap05:21
Alex135anyway05:21
Alex135time for bed05:21
smatt454swap is like virtual RAM05:21
SmokeEater85911same here, ill bug you more tomorrow alex05:21
SmokeEater85911thanks for the help!05:21
smatt454it doesnt contain any data05:21
smatt454u dont have to delete ur swap partition05:22
SmokeEater85911k05:22
Alex135cya all, g'night :)05:22
SmokeEater85911do you know of a good site that lists all the commands out?05:22
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SmokeEater85911nite Alex05:22
Alex135|awayg'night :)05:22
smatt454i can help u if u need it smokeeater05:22
soniker89Error .:17:. console-setup05:22
SmokeEater85911thanks, im gonna go watch some tv with the wife for a bit Ill be back, trust me05:23
SmokeEater85911you gonna be on here for a while?05:23
smatt454well i'm not sure...i have work tomorrow xD05:23
cimoetindonesia05:23
smatt454if not, i'll be on tomorrow05:24
SmokeEater85911k ill see you around sometime ;)05:24
smatt454k xD05:24
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mefisto_I just love to see brand new kubuntu users :)05:26
soniker89someone I installed gogle gadget and I dont want it05:26
Dr_willisUninstall it then?05:28
soniker89how?05:28
smatt454what's the output of "dpkg -l | grep google"05:28
soniker89I'll try it05:28
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Dr_willishow did you install it.. is the deeper question05:29
Dr_willisThere are ppa repos with it -> http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2008/06/16/install-google-gadgets-for-linux-on-ubuntu/05:29
soniker89yes05:30
soniker89I did this "kdesu kate /etc/sources.list" i deposit something and update it05:32
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smatt454=/05:37
drmarwathello05:39
smatt454soniker can u be more clear05:39
drmarwathas anybody tried installing kde 4.1 on kubuntu?05:39
smatt454yes05:39
smatt454o sorry i misread that05:40
smatt454i havent tried 4.105:40
smatt454i've tried 4.005:40
drmarwati have isnatlled it, looks fine but few issues05:40
smatt454such as?05:40
drmarwatthe windows partitions are not accessable05:40
drmarwatthey were in kde 3.5.905:41
smatt454that's very odd05:41
drmarwatmy computer icon is just an icon, it wont open my computer menu05:41
mefisto_kde4 version of ark is not too good. doesn't seem to support many archive types05:42
smatt454what is the partition name of your windows partition05:42
soniker89I have 4,1 KDE and I had installed GoogleGadget for linux but I don't Want it anymore05:42
smatt454(hda3, hda5...ect)05:42
drmarwatyea05:42
drmarwathad7, hdb1,2 and 305:43
joshuajtlhey folks... got TastyMenu installed, but whenever I logout it gets removed from the panel05:43
smatt454drmarwat, what happens if you type "/dev/hda7" in konqueror05:43
mefisto_soniker89: how did you install google gadgets? from konsole?05:43
smatt454soniker, did you try "dpkg -l | grep google"05:43
drmarwatit says05:44
drmarwatThe file or folder file:///dev/hda7 does not exist.05:44
drmarwatweird05:44
smatt454hmmm05:44
soniker89i tried but it dont work05:44
smatt454soniker, try "locate google | grep gadgets"05:45
drmarwateverything works fine in kde 3.5.9 though05:45
smatt454did you physically change anything with your harddrives recently?05:46
drmarwatsmatt454: me ?05:46
smatt454drmarwat, yes...sorry for that05:47
soniker89drmarwat no05:47
drmarwatno, just isnatlled kde 4.2 as mentioned on kubuntu website05:47
joshuajtlhey folks... got TastyMenu installed, but whenever I logout it gets removed from the panel05:47
drmarwat4.1 i mean05:47
smatt454joshuajt1, what version of kde are you using?05:48
smatt454hmmm, that's really odd drmarwat05:48
smatt454do you still have kde3 installed?05:48
drmarwatyes, its there05:49
mot_what's a good utility to batch-print pictures?05:49
smatt454did you try logging back into kde3 and seeing if your partitions worked?05:49
mot_i.e. i want to squeeze 3-4 pictures per page and print about 50 pictures in one go05:49
smatt454soniker...did u try "locate google | grep gadgets"05:49
drmarwati can check that, but they were working previously even on kde 3.5.905:50
soniker89where Im totaly new un kubuntu05:50
smatt454well if they work on kde3, then we know the partition tables did not change05:50
smatt454soniker, could you please answer my question05:51
soniker89I havent tried yet in KDE305:51
mefisto_drmarwat: open dolphin, and go to "storage media"05:51
drmarwati tried that dolphin just shows partitions wont lemme do more05:52
smatt454soniker, you're answer is unclear05:53
smatt454did you type in "locate google | grep gadgets" in a command prompt?05:53
mefisto_drmarwat: so it shows your partitions?05:53
drmarwatyes it shows but wont mount them05:53
mefisto_drmarwat: if you double-click? what happens?05:54
soniker89yes it shows it05:54
soniker89now what?05:55
smatt454soniker, copy and paste exactly what it says05:55
smatt454(please do this in a pm to me)05:55
soniker89you pm me05:55
drmarwatwow, i access them now, great :)05:57
drmarwatgod it worked05:57
smatt454=/05:57
smatt454u never tried that before?05:57
soniker89no05:57
drmarwati did many time but it didnt work05:58
drmarwatnow suddenly it works05:58
drmarwatwow05:58
mot_how do i restart all printing services and clear my current queue?05:59
Dr_willismot,  ive used the lprm command befor.. or the cups web interface..05:59
Dr_willisproberly other ways to do so also mot_05:59
SmokeEater85911smatt454: do you know where the kde3 download is?06:00
smatt454smoke, kde3 is a meta package06:00
smatt454meaning it contains many packages in it06:01
SmokeEater85911there isnt an ISO for it like the one I just installed?06:01
smatt454o06:01
smatt454im sorry i was confused on your question06:01
smatt454one second06:01
SmokeEater85911on the kubuntu site its that 3.5 or 406:02
drmarwatim downloading kde 4 amarok now06:02
drmarwat255 to download, puhhh :)06:02
smatt454smokeeater, what is your architecture06:02
mefisto_drmarwat: you mean amarok 2 ?06:02
drmarwati mean amarok kde 406:03
drmarwatits there in synaptic06:03
SmokeEater85911x8606:03
smatt454http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download06:04
smatt454choose Kubuntu 8.04 - Supported until October 200906:04
SmokeEater85911thats the one I downloaded, and it was kde 3.506:04
smatt454and obviously make sure the x86 arch option is selected06:05
SmokeEater85911is 3.5 the same as kde3?06:06
mefisto_drmarwat: don't expect it to work very well06:07
smatt454yes06:07
smatt4543.5 is the current version of kde306:07
drmarwatlets see how it works but im loving kde 4.1 now06:07
mefisto_3.5.9 to be precise06:07
SmokeEater85911well what the hell.. what was alex talking about he though i had 4 lol06:08
SmokeEater85911yeah 3.5.9 is what I have.. so thats the good one right?06:08
SmokeEater85911the 4 remix is the still new, beta buggy one06:08
level1how do I configure a vpn connection?06:08
mefisto_SmokeEater85911: is the panel black? if it is, that's kde406:08
SmokeEater85911panel?06:09
level1SmokeEater85911: the bar at the bottom06:09
mefisto_SmokeEater85911: the taskbar thing at the bottom of the screen, under the windows06:09
SmokeEater85911oh, no its silver06:10
smatt454that's 3.5.906:11
SmokeEater85911sweet06:11
smatt454yup ^_^06:11
SmokeEater85911god, getting used to linux is tough lol06:11
SmokeEater85911i was definitely spoiled with windows..06:11
smatt454it's deffinately worth it06:12
smatt454do you do any programming smoke?06:12
mefisto_SmokeEater85911: you just installed it didn't you?06:12
SmokeEater85911yes just installed it.. ive programmed some in the past.. C+, Java .. but mainly I do web programming.. PSP, SQL, DHTML type junk06:13
SmokeEater85911why do you ask?06:13
mefisto_SmokeEater85911: you say linux is tough, but it's only been a few hours06:13
smatt454just wondering...u do know that the source code to everything on linux is available xD06:14
SmokeEater85911yeah linux is open source right06:14
SmokeEater85911or at least for the most part06:14
smatt454yes06:15
SmokeEater85911im not gonna mess with it too much just yet until i can find another HDD06:17
SmokeEater85911right now Im playin with about 15gb06:18
SmokeEater85911its quiet in here06:19
SmokeEater85911;)06:19
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soniker89where I can find information about uninstall in KUBUNTU?06:21
SmokeEater85911so what little visual toys can i get for this thing?06:24
mefisto_soniker89: http://www.pseudorant.com/how-to-install-programs-in-kubuntu-linux/06:25
mefisto_joshuajtl: still there?06:29
aslami just installed new Kubuntu, its just gives me 640x480 resolution, how do i solve it???06:33
SmokeEater85911man i wish they made more Kubuntu merchandise , like the same stuff as the ubuntu merch.06:33
SmokeEater85911i mean i guess kubuntu IS ubuntu.. with just an add-on06:38
SmokeEater85911*sigh*06:38
joshuajtlmefisto_: hi06:45
mefisto_about tastymenu, don't know why it's disappearing when you login, but try saving the current session, then try another login06:47
mefisto_from tastymenu, click the 2nd button with your username, save current session06:48
mefisto_then test it to see if it's there next time you login06:49
joshuajtlcool thanks mefisto_06:49
soniker89console setup mean?06:53
frybye hi - problem with the home network - why cant i copy some stuff into the samba shares directories??06:57
frybyefor instance directories full of stuff dont seem to wanna go in there...?06:57
soniker89?06:57
frybyesays access denied...06:58
frybyeeven individual music titles dont work... i c n ow..06:59
mefisto_frybye: so you can read but not write to the samba shares07:03
Dr_willisthe 'using samba' book (and another book or 2) are in the samba-doc package. :) they are worth reading to learn whats going on with samba07:04
mefisto_my experience with samba is... huh? why isn't it working?07:05
curveaterhi, when you look for all wave files under vista you go look for *.wav, what if you wanted to look for all types over 1 Giga? You'd set the advance settings and what symbol would you use to say look for all files? I tried the *  symbol alone and it doesn't work?07:05
Jucatocurveater: shouldn't you be asking this in a vista/windows channel?07:06
Dr_williscurveater,  err.. why is vista qustions being asked in a Kubuntu Channel?07:06
curveaterbecause they don't know else where07:06
Dr_williscurveater,  i suggest checking google then. or the vista help files.07:07
Dr_willisit may be it wants *.* other then that.. no idea07:07
Jucatocurveater: this is a channel for a GNU/Linux OS. not-Windows.07:07
firecrotchcurveater, pm?07:07
mefisto_curveater: install kubuntu or run the livecd, and use that to search your files :)07:08
tim_my wireless got wiped out when I updated (non-restricted driver) what do I do?07:11
mixed1234anyone here use hydrogen?  I want to know if there is a place where I can download beats for hydrogen07:16
Dr_willisPerhaps the Hydrogen homepage?07:17
mixed1234Dr_willis, I suppose the homepage could have demos but not exactlly beats that people have already recorded, ill give the hmepage a look see though07:18
mixed1234Dr_Willis, anyway, thank you very much for the suggestion, greetings!  I have now upgraded to Ubuntu Studio hardy heron 64 bit and it is awesome, 64 bit is a lot faster when youre transferring gigs of data07:22
Dr_willisI wouldent think that 64bit would matter with network file transfers much at all..07:24
Dr_willisor even hard drive to hard drive transfers..07:24
mixed1234Dr Willis, well when I rip CD's I have noticed a gain in speed07:24
mixed1234and when transferring my movies is a little faster as well, I can't complain07:25
Dr_willisYou may be seeing better speeds at encoding the data to mp3/whatever. :) not the data to the disk speeds boosting..07:26
Dr_willisI could see how 64bit could help encoding.07:26
mixed1234Dr_Willis, why is it that I can't have more than one app playing sound though???07:26
Dr_willisYour sound card  and the alsa drivers are not fully supporting the mixing i imagine.07:27
mixed1234even after I closed the appz I am still unable to use amarok to play my music, i guess i'll have to reboot07:28
Dr_willissome sound cards are very porely done with lackluster support07:30
Dr_willissome are so new they 'break' things also07:30
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SmokeEater85911howdy howdy howdy07:40
SmokeEater85911I have another issue if anybody is here can you help address it?07:41
Dr_Willisdepends on the issue.07:43
SmokeEater85911i dont know if i have any audio07:44
SmokeEater85911or if its just Flash that isnt playing audio07:45
Dr_Willistry playing a game that has some audio?07:45
Dr_Willisor download some wav files and tyr playingthem07:46
SmokeEater85911well anything flash with music isnt playing the music..07:46
SmokeEater85911Im trying to find a wav or something to test07:46
Dr_Willishttp://www.naturesongs.com/mourndove1.wav07:48
Dr_Willis:)07:48
Dr_Willisnot a loud sound..07:48
SmokeEater85911well that was weird.. is it natural for this to say battery is not present?07:48
Dr_Willisno idea on battery07:49
SmokeEater85911now the battery kicked back on.. maybe it was because it had reached fully charged 8shrug*07:49
Dr_WillisI noticed my wifes laptop - the battery totally dosetn work - even tho it says its 100% charged.. and its only a year old.07:49
Dr_Willisbut it was a $350 laptop :P07:49
SmokeEater85911fun07:50
SmokeEater85911im surprised my wifes laptop hasnt taken a crap yet07:50
SmokeEater85911its about 3-4 years old but its taken LOTS of abuse07:50
SmokeEater85911the only thing dying on that lappy is the LCD screen is dimming07:50
Dr_WillisYep - my wife leaves hers on like 24/7 for Months at a time.. just sitting there with a solitare game on it07:51
SmokeEater85911nope no sound at all07:52
SmokeEater85911yeah i hear ya there, mine does the same.. its like its not a desktop.. you cant do that haha07:52
SmokeEater85911so for some reason i have no sound07:53
Dr_Willisif she kills it.. i will get her another. :)07:53
SmokeEater85911(im new to linux)07:53
Dr_Willisor give her my current one and get ME a new one. :P07:54
SmokeEater85911yeah thats what I did haha, gave her my old gateway and bought a nice new toshiba while i was deployed07:54
SmokeEater85911sorry, firefox crashed07:55
SmokeEater85911any ideas on the sound thing?07:56
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dwidmannSmokeEater85911: is that no sound in general, or something more specific? If it's in general, do you know what the chipset is?07:56
SmokeEater85911no sound at all07:57
SmokeEater85911yeah the chipset is an intel PM965 Express07:57
dwidmannNah, the sound chip (should have been more specific)07:58
SmokeEater85911oh, hm gimme a sec07:58
dwidmannSmokeEater85911: alsamixer *might* tell you08:00
SmokeEater85911alsawhatsa?08:00
dwidmannSmokeEater85911: just run that command in a shell and you'll see.08:01
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SmokeEater85911wow thats pretty neat08:02
SmokeEater85911it says its a REaltek ALC26808:02
SmokeEater85911(i'll have to learn all these neat little things in the konsole eventualy)08:03
dwidmannand off to google I go :)08:03
hoodlumhi, i was wondering if anyone could help with a problem i am running in to08:03
dwidmannhoodlum: probably08:04
hoodlumi am really new to this, but i cannot get my wireless connection to connect to any network that has encryption08:05
dwidmannSmokeEater85911: I wonder if this is still valid: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=55806908:05
hoodlumi know for a fact the password is correct, but it never accepts it08:05
dwidmannhoodlum: not my forte ... I'm one of the lucky people whose wireless worked out of the box ... sorry08:07
SmokeEater85911dwidmann: k Im gonna download a codec/driver and try then08:07
SmokeEater85911hey hoodlum you are having network problems?08:07
hoodlumyeah08:07
SmokeEater85911I was just having this too but I figured it out08:07
hoodlumi am connected wireless now08:08
SmokeEater85911does your wlan use a WEP key?08:08
hoodlumbut i had to take the encryption off08:08
SmokeEater85911was it a 10 digit passphrase?08:08
hoodlumwhen the WEP key was activated, i could not conneect08:08
SmokeEater85911k did you try clicking the dropdpwn and selecting "HEX"?08:08
dwidmannWEP = Weak Excuse for Protection08:08
SmokeEater85911i selected hex, and then entered my passphrase and it worked perfectly08:09
hoodlumhaha its what my campus uses08:09
hoodlumreally?08:09
hoodlumill have to give that a try08:09
SmokeEater85911yeah give it a shot08:09
SmokeEater85911I was messing with it for about an hour, to realize I was just trying the wrong one haha08:09
hoodlumwhat kind of computer are you running?08:10
SmokeEater85911a Toshiba Satellite X20508:10
hoodlumi have an HP, i hate it08:10
hoodlumits burning my lap right now08:11
SmokeEater85911dwidmann: man trying to install something is a pain in linux lol08:11
SmokeEater85911yeah my laptop hardly gets hot, it has huge fans in it but it weighs about 10lbs08:11
SmokeEater85911because of the subwoofer08:11
SmokeEater85911but the open space allows better airflow08:11
hoodlumwell thanks for the suggestion, im gonna go mess with it now08:12
SmokeEater85911lemme know if it works08:12
SmokeEater85911dwidmann: so how do you install stuff? whats the magic command line?08:13
dwidmannSmokeEater85911: most things are relatively easy to install.08:13
SmokeEater85911the file is called LinuxPkg_5.07.tar.bz208:13
SmokeEater85911its in my Home>Documents>Audio Card folder08:14
dwidmannSmokeEater85911: two different magic commands available for most things --- apt-get install --- dpkg --install --- those are my "magic" commands.08:15
SmokeEater85911sorry still trying to learn all the Linux commands heh08:15
SmokeEater85911so use "apt-get install"?08:15
dwidmannSmokeEater85911: no, follow the instructions on that page, I'm assuming ...08:16
dwidmannSmokeEater85911: apt-get install is for grabbing packages from Ubuntu's repository (over 20,000 packages in all), dpkg --install is for installing .deb files.08:16
SmokeEater85911ah08:17
SmokeEater85911what is -jxvf?08:18
dwidmannj = bzip2, x= extract, v = be verbose, f = use archive file08:19
dwidmannor something like that08:20
SmokeEater85911gotcha08:20
SmokeEater85911this little tutorial actually makes it pretty easy to use the terminal to install stuff08:20
SmokeEater85911hmm no config screen popped up though08:22
mark-m_ i have a question - if anyone has any clues it would help.... when i boot up i get login - enter details all goes OK as soon as the desktop is up and running the keyboard stops. I have swaped keyboards... same problem. On the same machine i can boot into ubuntu media install or a kubuntu kde4 install and no problem.... any clues?08:24
SmokeEater85911driver issue perhaps?08:25
mark-m_it has beem working fine - then pof! it stopped.....08:26
SmokeEater85911dwidmann: so while trying to install it deleted my current driver, and didnt install one, so now its saying there is no sound driver at all08:26
dwidmannSmokeEater85911: uh oh, that's not good08:26
SmokeEater85911Configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables08:26
dwidmannhmm, have you installed the  "build-essential" package?08:27
dwidmann("sudo apt-get install build-essential")08:27
SmokeEater85911standby08:28
dwidmannseeing as I just got off work, I need to get a shower ... be back in about 20 minutes.08:30
SmokeEater85911k08:30
SmokeEater85911this terminal stuff kinda reminds me when i used to fart around in a shell with a MUD I used to work on..08:35
SmokeEater85911so the build-essential pack allows the "make" function to act as a compiler right?08:35
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hoodlumhey, i got it to work thanks a lot08:36
SmokeEater85911was that what was wrong with it?08:36
SmokeEater85911the hex thing08:36
hoodlumsort of08:36
hoodlumwhen i found the security on the router08:37
SmokeEater85911w00t haha Ive never touched a linux machine until today, and Im already helpin people haha08:37
hoodlumi was typing the passphrase, not the keys it generated08:37
SmokeEater85911oh hah08:37
SmokeEater85911i made mine simple, i just enter my phone number ;008:37
hoodlumwhen i had windows no this laptop the passphrase worked08:37
hoodlumeither way, im happy08:38
SmokeEater85911so I take it you are somewhat new to Linux as well?08:38
hoodlumyeah08:38
SmokeEater85911awesome08:38
hoodlumi installed kubuntu on my desktop about a year ago08:38
hoodlumand never touched it08:38
SmokeEater85911Im trying to learn as much as I can.. I hate windows for all that its worth08:38
hoodlumyeah me too08:38
hoodlumi still use windows on my desktp because i love gaming08:39
SmokeEater85911so right now Im working on little things not working, finding most of this stuff out on my own08:39
SmokeEater85911yeah, I dont play that many PC games08:39
hoodlumi really want to find out stuff on my own, but its overwhelming08:39
SmokeEater85911Im going to buy another HDD and try to use Linux as much as possible08:40
hoodlumi dont get all the konsole commands08:40
SmokeEater85911i agree.. its definately not point and click08:40
SmokeEater85911yeah! same here08:40
SmokeEater85911its chinese to me, but im learning08:40
hoodlumexactly08:40
SmokeEater85911I wanna go to the bookstore and get a linux for dummies book08:40
SmokeEater85911it has a lot of the shell commands in it08:40
hoodlumhaha not a bad idea08:40
SmokeEater85911right now Im trying to figure out how to get my sound to work ;)08:41
hoodlumi really wanna to figure out how to install and run beryl08:41
hoodlumsounds like you laptop has a pretty high end sound system08:41
SmokeEater85911whats beryl08:41
hoodlumyou mentioned the sub woofer08:42
SmokeEater85911it has 4 harman/kardon speakers and a sub haha08:42
favro!compiz08:42
ubottuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness from KMenu -> System -> Desktop Effects - further help in #compiz-fusion08:42
SmokeEater85911its a pretty good laptop for gaming, but I dont play much08:42
SmokeEater85911its just a big toy hah08:42
hoodlumhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZD7QraljRfM08:43
hoodlumlook at that video08:43
SmokeEater85911nVIDIA Geforce 8700M GT08:43
hoodlumwow08:43
hoodlumi just got an 8800 in my desktop08:43
hoodlumgtx08:43
hoodlummy laptop has a 7 series08:43
SmokeEater85911wow beryl looks nice08:43
SmokeEater85911!beryl08:43
ubottuBeryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz08:43
SmokeEater85911!compiz08:44
ubottuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness from KMenu -> System -> Desktop Effects - further help in #compiz-fusion08:44
SmokeEater85911try that, install compiz-fusion08:44
SmokeEater85911its a new and improved beryl i take it08:44
SmokeEater85911im DLing it right now08:44
hoodlumi did that already08:44
hoodlumbut cant figure out whats next08:45
SmokeEater85911*kicks sound card driver*08:45
SmokeEater85911hmm yeah i see what you mean, i just downloaded that stuff too08:46
SmokeEater85911and nothing hah08:46
hoodlumyeah08:46
hoodlumnot sure what to do08:46
SmokeEater85911http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/08:46
hoodlumi am just going to follow the directions and see whath appens08:49
SmokeEater85911yeah Im trying to find where it says how to install plugins08:49
hoodlumalready lost08:50
hoodlumoh well08:50
dwidmannHmm, I'm back.08:52
SmokeEater85911wb08:53
SmokeEater85911fixed the driver thing kinda08:53
SmokeEater85911still no sound, but at least it shows "system sound" again08:54
SmokeEater85911hey hoodlum08:54
SmokeEater85911try "sudo apt-get install compiz-fusion-plugins-main"08:54
SmokeEater85911you know how to use the adept manager?08:54
SmokeEater85911dwidmann: so any more ideas?08:55
SmokeEater85911i figured out the whole build-essentials thing.. and it compiled fine.. just not the right one i guess08:55
dwidmannUmm, I think I'm out of ideas then :\08:56
dwidmannOne possible solution would be to buy a cheap sound card08:56
SmokeEater85911NO, i like my sound haha I'd like to be able to utilize my setup08:56
hoodlumive usesd adept manager08:56
SmokeEater85911hoodlum: open adept and search for "compiz-fusion" it will bring up a lot of stuff08:57
SmokeEater85911you know whats funny, when i first loaded up kubuntu it played the little tune for startup08:58
SmokeEater85911but then i never heard it again08:58
hoodlumi installed all of them, haha now i dunno what to do08:59
SmokeEater85911yeah me neither lol09:00
SmokeEater85911hey dwidmann, do you know how to use compiz>09:00
SmokeEater85911?*09:00
SmokeEater85911!compiz09:00
ubottuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness from KMenu -> System -> Desktop Effects - further help in #compiz-fusion09:00
dwidmannSmokeEater85911: there's a good start :P09:00
SmokeEater85911there you go, go to #compiz-fusion09:00
dwidmannSmokeEater85911: I don't use it myself, so no, not really.09:00
SmokeEater85911hmm09:01
SmokeEater85911did you order your free "powered by ubuntu" stickers? lol09:03
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dwidmannSmokeEater85911: no, I had to pay for my "Powered by Kubuntu" stickers :P09:05
dwidmannVery cheap, of course ... many thanks to Jenda for that.09:05
SmokeEater85911are they the shiny metal ones or just the white paper ones?09:05
dwidmannUmm, paper.09:06
SmokeEater85911i want some kubuntu stickers! haha where did you get them?09:06
dwidmannSmokeEater85911: Got them from Jenda ... lemme see if I can dig up his email and what you'll need to say/do09:06
dwidmannSmokeEater85911: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=34460009:08
SmokeEater85911hmm his link is broken but I assume I can email him09:10
dwidmannSmokeEater85911: yeah, email and ask09:11
SmokeEater85911how much did they cost ya09:11
dwidmannUmm, can't recall, think I sent $1009:12
SmokeEater85911sweet how many did you get?09:13
dwidmannUmm, can't remember, this was like a year ago09:13
dwidmannMore than I really needed09:13
SmokeEater85911heh awesoem, im gonna slap it right over my vista sticker lol09:13
dwidmannAwesome plan09:14
SmokeEater85911im gonna give up on the sound problems for now, and try to get it to recognize my video card...09:16
SmokeEater85911:X09:16
bttbHi all09:18
bttbIs Kubuntu 8.04 a LTS release?09:20
Dr_willis!lts09:21
ubottuLTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.09:21
Dr_willisTechnically - i dont think it is.09:21
bttbIs it maybe LTS when you choose to run KDE3?09:21
Dr_willisNo idea. The whold LTS means very little to me09:22
Dr_willissince im a home user.09:22
carlin!compiz09:22
ubottuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness from KMenu -> System -> Desktop Effects - further help in #compiz-fusion09:22
SmokeEater85911LTS.. Learn iT yourSelf09:22
bttbMe too, but I like LTS because for me it means that I don't have to care for three years09:23
bttb:)09:23
Dr_willisLike in 3 years time you will be usign the same or.. :) or even the same machine?09:23
bttbYes09:23
Dr_willisIn 3 years time.. I can imagine that 2+gb hd's will be common. :) and 8 core cpus will be as cheap as doritos. :)09:23
bttbWell, no. After three years I'd update to the next LTS release :D09:23
Dr_willisoops 2+TB :)09:23
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Dr_willisDo what ever you want. this is linux :P09:24
dwidmannDr_willis: not sure about that cheap as Doritos part ... but they'll definitely be on the market.09:24
Dr_willisdwidmann,  yep. and i bet windows will still grow enough junk to bog them down.09:24
dwidmannDr_willis: probably09:25
dwidmannI bet the quad core cpus will be dirt cheap by then though.09:25
Dr_willisI saw 1 TB hds in the $180 range on sale today.09:25
Dr_willisThats getting reasonable. :)09:25
bttbI'm happy with 30GB on this lappy :D09:26
dwidmannYeah, quite reasonable.09:26
Dr_willisI got a 250gb on my laptop. and its only using 20gb or so09:26
Dr_willischeaper to get a new laptop with bigger hd.. then to upgrade my old.09:26
dwidmannI've only got a 160g09:26
dwidmann**gb in my laptop09:26
dwidmannMy future plans involve probably those 1TB drives.09:27
dwidmannI need to build a relatively inexpensive nfs server09:27
Dr_willisGetting where i cant backstuff up fast enought to DVD.09:27
Dr_willisI need to make a Fileserver up one day09:28
Dr_willisbut i still want backups to dvd. :)09:28
dwidmannDr_willis: Yeah, I've been backing up to external hard drive, in addition to keeping everything on my desktop's 750, and important stuff on my laptop's 16009:28
Dr_willisYep. It seems i can burn dvd disks faster then i can often copy things to external usb hd's09:29
limzhowzit09:29
Dr_willisexternal sata drives... ! i want one! or a dozen09:29
limzany1 know a VNCViewer to view a windows machine from Ubuntu?09:29
dwidmannDr_willis: eSATA is just as fast as the internal version ... I think connected via USB 2.0 I can only get like 30Mbs, but with eSATA and the same drive I get 45+09:30
dwidmannDr_willis: caveat at least with this motherboard, I don't know about others, is that the eSATA isn't plug & play09:31
SmokeEater85911back09:32
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dwidmannwb SmokeEater8591109:32
SmokeEater85911thanks, i got compiz workin09:33
SmokeEater85911got it to recognize my video card too09:34
dwidmannSmokeEater85911: that's always good09:35
dwidmannI want a new video card ...09:35
SmokeEater85911i have a nice one that came with the lappy ;)09:36
dwidmannA mobile one, that's nice? Which model might that be?09:37
SmokeEater85911nVIDIA GeForce 8700M GT09:37
gnummhow long does an update from one kubuntu version to the next usually takes?09:38
gnummhow much time09:38
dwidmanngnumm: depends on your connection speed.09:38
gnummah right09:38
gnumm230kb/s09:38
dwidmannalso depends how many extra package syou have installed.09:39
gnummlets say a kubuntu installation without additional packages09:41
gnummit shouldn't take longer than 3 houres or?09:41
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josh__im in Kubuntu...09:41
dwidmannShouldn't09:41
josh__how do i compile my 9800 GTX Drivers09:42
josh__what are the commands?09:42
josh__hehe09:42
josh__i compiled drivers in ubuntu and Suse before...09:42
josh__just kinda confused in Kubuntu lol09:42
josh__anyone want to help?09:43
dwidmannjosh__: download it from nvidia.com, then run "chmod +x thefilethatyoudownloaded" then "sudo ./thefilethatyoudownloaded09:43
josh__so its chmod +x (space) the file i downloaded?09:45
josh__while i am in the GUI?09:45
dwidmannNo, in a shell09:45
josh__how do i get to the shell?09:45
josh__what command?09:45
dwidmannctrl+alt+f109:45
josh__how do i get back?09:45
josh__when i am there09:45
dwidmannctrl+alt+f709:45
josh__ight thx09:45
josh__ill let you know how it goes09:46
dwidmannYou should probably log out  before you switch to ctrl+alt+f109:46
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josh__of IRC?09:46
josh__or09:46
dwidmannjosh__: out of kde09:46
josh__ok09:46
josh__gonna do this now09:46
SmokeEater85911wow thats pretty enat09:46
SmokeEater85911neat*09:46
SmokeEater85911so does that just open the shell or what09:46
dwidmannSmokeEater85911: ctrl+alt+f1-6 = virtual terminals09:47
SmokeEater85911what do they do?09:47
gnummbut with ctrl + alt +f109:47
gnummyou are still in X09:47
gnummyou must leave X09:48
dwidmanngnumm: that's why I said he should log out first09:48
hoodlumwhat does the keystroke <shift><super>09:49
gnummyes i didn't see09:49
hoodlumwhat does super mean09:49
SmokeEater85911super?09:49
hoodlumyeah09:49
hoodlumsome of the commands for the compiz are shift super09:49
hoodlumor  ctrl super09:50
gnummon your keyboard it should be the button with the windows flag09:50
hoodlumooh09:50
gnummthere is often a windows flag09:50
hoodlumyeah thats it09:50
hoodlumthanks09:50
SmokeEater85911heh I wondered if that key was even used with linux09:50
SmokeEater85911I wish it would bring up the Kmenu09:51
SmokeEater85911then I'd slap the kubuntu sticker over that key ;D09:51
gnummask kde4 dev ;) maybe they accept that idea...09:52
SmokeEater85911OH YOU CAN DO IT MUAHAHA09:52
SmokeEater85911haha sorry got a little too excited there09:53
josh__hmm09:53
josh__it complains about Xsever09:53
josh__that i have Xserver running09:53
josh__i used the09:53
josh__2 commands09:53
josh__you gave me09:53
josh__in the shell09:53
dwidmannhmm, do sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop09:53
josh__how do i restart it tho?09:54
dwidmannthen to get back to X afterwards, sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start09:54
josh__when i am done?09:54
josh__then i can go back into09:54
josh__my09:54
josh__desktop?09:54
dwidmannYeah09:54
josh__nothing will be screwed up09:54
josh__ight09:54
josh__ill try again09:54
dwidmannjosh__: You'll want to configure X before restarting though - sudo nvidia-xconfig09:54
gnummtype in the usual konsole "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop"09:55
gnummso stop X09:55
dwidmanngnumm: You do realize that josh__ just left the server, right?09:55
gnummyes now09:56
gnummi'm too late today..09:56
OutoLumoNice... I Rebooted, and GRUB said: "File not found."09:56
dwidmannOutoLumo: error 17 huh?09:56
OutoLumoThe nice thing is, that it took only about 30 seconds to recover :-709:56
OutoLumodwidmann, I had updated kernel, but neglected updating menu.lst09:57
dwidmannOutoLumo: yeah, that would do it09:57
OutoLumogood thing I knew what to do. I've had trouble with dual boot before.09:58
josh__it saids09:58
josh__i have no libc header files09:58
josh__:/09:58
josh__what must i do?09:58
dwidmannjosh__: well09:58
dwidmannjosh__: sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r`09:59
josh__dang those build essentials lol09:59
josh__everytime09:59
josh__its always them09:59
josh__at least with newbies like my self09:59
Douglas_Ehello all, I have a computer and a laptop on a router in my house and want to be able to share files and printer etc between them. How do I set this up? Is there a good webpage? What software is best?09:59
josh__=/09:59
josh__alright10:00
josh__its done10:00
josh__should i try again then?10:00
Douglas_Eshould I set up somba? Is that the right software for this little system?10:00
josh__ima try again10:00
dwidmannDouglas_E: you can share the printer with CUPS, you can share the files with NFS10:00
dwidmannDouglas_E: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24988910:02
SmokeEater85911nite all10:03
Douglas_Ethanks dwidmann! Just getting the word nfs has let my googling start to work. :-)10:03
rasmusHi! I want to remove xpad completly but even though i use the purge-command my notes reapear when reinstalling. How do i remove it completly10:07
josh__it works xD10:07
josh__how do i get into compiz tho?10:07
josh__i pressed the install button for it10:07
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josh__where do i like  find it lol?10:08
dwidmannrasmus: probably some config files for it laying around, perhaps in a hidden file in your home folder (probably something like ~/.xpad)10:08
dwidmannjosh__: maybe someone in #compiz-fusion would know10:08
rasmusdwidmann: aren't they supposed to be purged to? I'll have a try manualy then10:09
Douglas_Ewhat is that address? It keeps showing up. Are these only local computers? "For Full Read Write Permissions allowing any computer from 192.168.1.1 through 192.168.1.255"10:09
dwidmannDouglas_E: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=249889 <-- you mean this one?10:10
josh__hmm10:11
Douglas_Edwidmann: no I mean 192.168.1.X10:11
josh__how do i enable the cube effect in Kbuntu lol?10:11
dwidmannDouglas_E: 192.168.1.x is reserved for local stuff, yeah. Whether or not your networks router uses that or not can vary though10:12
dwidmannDouglas_E: pretty sure there are a few others that  can be used10:12
dwidmannDouglas_E: when configuring NFS you can use hostnames instead and/or also if you want to.10:12
Douglas_Edwidmann: like localhost?10:13
dwidmannDouglas_E: it doesn't make much sense to share it with the same computer, but yeah, you *can* do that10:14
dwidmannto get the hostname you can use the hostname command (very obvious, I know)10:15
Douglas_Edwidmann: As I am sure you cane see I am network Newbie, I just want to let my laptop get at everything without compromizing my security of coures. I do serve a web page and ssh to the net.10:15
dwidmannI don't know too much about Networking either, just enough to get by.10:16
dwidmannDouglas_E: You'll probably want to configure iptables to make things more secure then. NFS isn't the most secure of protocols, so you'll want to make very sure that its port is only accessible locally and not from the net.10:17
dwidmannDouglas_E: I've not had enough experience with that myself though to be able to tell you how to do it ..10:18
Douglas_Edwidmann: I use firestart. It is great and easy. Do you know how to tell what port nfs is on?10:18
dwidmannDouglas_E: not me, sorry10:19
dwidmannDouglas_E: maybe in one of NFS's config files?10:19
dwidmannDouglas_E:  you probably want to change it anyway.10:19
Douglas_Edwidmann: I can search it but do you know where that config is of the top of your head?10:22
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dwidmannnot sure Douglas_E, it has been a while10:23
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josh__what was that10:25
josh__compiz channel?10:25
josh__lol10:25
josh__my cube effect10:26
josh__is only showing has 1 plane10:26
josh__1 face 2 sided10:26
josh__or a 2 sided plane10:26
josh__not a 6 faced cube...10:26
josh__i need 4 desktops10:27
josh__not 2...10:27
josh__alot of people have this problem...10:27
dwidmann!compiz10:27
ubottuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness from KMenu -> System -> Desktop Effects - further help in #compiz-fusion10:27
josh__i dont know how to fix it in Kubuntu10:27
josh__how i change my number of viewports?10:32
josh__in Kubuntu10:32
josh__to like 4 or 610:32
josh__instead of just 210:32
josh__or desktops10:33
josh__i guess they call em10:33
bobitoanyone know how to get sources.list back to its 'fresh install' state?10:34
josh__KDE pwns Gnome10:35
josh__im never going to use Gnome again10:35
josh__its trash10:35
dariojosh__ just look in systemsettings10:35
josh__i did but10:37
josh__it doesn't seem to work...10:37
josh__hm10:37
josh__ima try an log out and it10:37
josh__in*10:37
josh__umm10:40
josh__when i compiled10:40
josh__should of have gotten this error10:40
josh__Warning : Unable to perform the runtimeconfiguation check library 'libGL.so.1' ('/user/lib32/libGL.so.173.14.12') assuming sucessful installation10:42
josh__is that a problem?10:42
josh__cause my GUI is being a little fishy...10:42
josh__any idea?10:43
josh__if thats bad or not10:43
josh__:/10:43
dwidmannjosh__: Welcome to the world of beta drivers.10:44
josh__^^10:44
josh__thats a beta driver O_o10:44
josh__dangit....10:44
josh__slap me silly, and punch me in the face...10:44
josh__what should i do then lol10:44
dwidmannjosh__: well, it's the only way you're going to have that 9800gtx working well (the beta driver, that is), unless 177 was recently released and I didn't hear about it.10:45
metaHi all10:45
dwidmannHi meta10:45
metaI have enabled the transparent windows in kde. Now my kicker is about 80% transparent10:45
metaand there are no setting to get that back to 100%10:45
metahow can i set it to 100%?10:46
josh__i need mp3 support...10:47
josh__and .wma10:47
josh__how do i do this10:47
josh__lol10:47
dwidmannmeta, right click on kicker, configure panel, appearance tab, click advanced options10:47
dwidmannjosh__: install kubuntu-restricted-extras10:47
metayeah i was there10:47
metabut that slider only sets the tinting10:48
metanot the transparency10:48
dwidmannmeta, that tinting should do the trick, one end is opaque tinted, the other end is completely transparent.10:48
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metai tried to set it everywhere10:49
metaand it isn10:49
meta't changes anythin10:49
metag10:49
dwidmannmeta: is transparency enabled?10:51
metayeah10:51
metaij the window settings10:51
metan10:51
josh__why do people even use Gnome?10:52
josh__instead of KDE?10:52
metaBecause they are can't chew a gum and walk in the same time10:52
metaToo many buttons and settings for their V 1.0 brain:)10:53
metaNow i'm lacking an option... but this is another thing:)10:53
dwidmannI was trying to think of something constructive to say, but I personally kind of agree with meta in a way, even though I feel like I shouldn't ^^;10:53
metaI have a very cool example, a moment10:54
metaCheck: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam10:55
metaCheese is the new and fancy photo shooting/video grabbing utility for Gnome, quite similar to Photobooth for OSX.10:55
metaIn the gnomeidiotic language, fancy means 5 button.10:55
metahttp://www.gnome.org/projects/cheese/screenshots.html10:55
metaAnd you  may think that there are a "Preferences" submenu under the "Edit" menu, i have tried this app, and i can say: no.10:56
metaResolution? Brightness? Mirroring? Color correction? Nooo don't confuse the users.10:56
josh__i need10:57
josh__a good media player...10:57
josh__any ideas?10:57
metasmplayer?10:57
metakmplayer,kaffeine, vlc?10:58
metaor if you want to get your brain out then totem:)10:58
josh__^^10:59
josh__i need to enable my USB Headset10:59
josh__has the default Audio thing...10:59
josh__how do i do this?11:01
josh__i have 2 audio sources11:01
japado what?11:01
josh__i need to select one has my default source11:01
japahm... not sure how to help that...11:04
josh__:(11:04
japacan anybody help me with my nVidia drivers? they are installed, but shaders don't work11:14
josh__umm11:15
josh__i need to get these drivers working...11:15
josh__what is 'libGL.so.1'11:16
josh__?11:16
favro!info libgl11:16
ubottuPackage libgl does not exist in hardy11:16
favroof course11:17
josh__^^11:17
favrojosh__: libgl isn't a package, just a library11:18
favro!find libgl11:19
ubottuFound: freeglut3, freeglut3-dev, gle-doc, libgl1-mesa-dev, libgl1-mesa-dri (and 91 others)11:19
josh__^^11:19
favrojosh__: you need to install restricted modules11:19
josh__^^11:19
josh__how11:19
josh__hwo11:19
josh__how11:19
josh__^^11:19
josh__speak more of this wisdom please11:20
favrojosh__: search in adept to find the ones that match your kernel number11:20
josh__btw does the Kubuntu Broswer stink?11:20
josh__everything complains about it11:21
josh__being compatible11:21
favrouname -r   in konsole to find kernel num11:21
josh__2.6.24-19-generic11:21
Anubis1hi guys . i'm trying to run kubuntu installed inside of windows (wubi) but when i reboot computer and select kubuntu it give me error 1511:22
x_friend_of_windhello,is there some italian here?11:22
Anubis1it seems it can not find the menu.lst from grub11:22
Anubis1how can i resolve this ?11:23
emilsedgh_!it | x_friend_of_wind11:23
ubottux_friend_of_wind: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!11:23
x_friend_of_windthank's11:23
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x_friend_of_windAlla prossima!!! Un Saluto Kriminale a tutto il Canale!!! By [Wµî†€ K®î(v)¡ñå£]™ [§©®îÞ¯|¯]11:24
favrojosh__: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24-1911:24
josh__i got11:25
josh__ones that say11:25
josh__generic11:25
josh__openvz11:25
josh__rt11:25
josh__server11:25
josh__xen11:25
josh__its linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24-19 + those tags11:26
josh__desisions desisions...11:26
josh__what should i do?11:26
dvoideeein wich package is krandr11:26
josh__favro,11:26
favrojosh__: ping11:27
josh__favro11:28
josh__i got a bunch of options man11:28
josh__generic11:28
josh__openvz11:28
josh__rt,server,xen11:28
favrothe restricted modules don't have the mesa drivers like I thought11:28
josh__idk what ones i should install11:28
josh__^^11:28
Anubis1so , anyone?11:29
favrojosh__: what's the vid card?11:29
josh__favro, 9800 GTX11:30
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favrojosh__: tried the restricted drivers?11:32
favrowhere are you at with this?11:33
andreas_hello. does anybody now how to deny webapplets (fileuppload to google or something else) to browse the hole file system?11:33
josh__hmm11:33
josh__man, things seem to be working out good11:34
josh__=O11:34
josh__firefox fixxed my problem11:34
josh__on the interwebs11:34
favro:)11:34
josh__i just wish i could make open audio my11:34
josh__default11:34
josh__audio11:34
josh__or make my USB headsets my default11:34
favro!enter | josh11:34
ubottujosh: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!11:34
josh__because i also have onboard audio11:34
josh__sorry, lol11:34
favrodisable the onboard in the bios josh__11:35
josh__thats not an option tho...11:35
favrok11:35
josh__i mean i duel boot11:35
josh__so11:35
josh__hmm this could fix my Mic issues11:36
josh__i guess i will disable for now...11:36
favroyep - right click on the sound icon give you a choice for which audio h/ware11:36
josh__ight thx Kubuntu FTW! best OS Ever so fast man its insane windows xp is slow compared to this11:37
b1nar10hola a todos11:43
b1nar10hi everyone11:43
JohnFlux_hey all11:53
rusidihei all11:58
rusidimagrib yuk11:59
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Flashysince I get autokicked from #wine can anyone tell me how to see .wine/c_drive/ in dolphin?12:05
MPatFlashy, wiev show hidden files and then in home you can find it12:06
Flashythanks12:07
RurouniJonesInvite only channel?!12:09
RurouniJonesThat can't be the official channel then, can it?12:09
RurouniJones#winehq12:09
RurouniJonesThats it Flashy12:09
Flashythanks12:10
gstaniakhi12:23
gstaniakhow do i check/change mac address of an ethernet card in kubuntu?12:23
rusidiyup12:27
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TimSI am trying to set up qt4, where is the default install location? I am trying to set up the PATH variable, I think it should be /usr/share/qt4/bin, is that right?12:55
favroTimS: type   $PATH   in konsole to check :)12:57
TimSbash: /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games: No such file or directory12:57
favroTimS: anywhere except /usr/games12:58
TimSEh?12:59
TimSI am following the qt guide, and PATH needs to point to the qt4 installation, or am I getting confused?12:59
favro/usr/games: No such file or directory - most apps go in /usr/bin - or a soft link does12:59
favroTimS: try this - sudo ln -s /usr/share/qt4/bin /usr/bin/"what qt4 wants"13:01
TimSI am not trying to link qt4 to anywhere.13:01
TimSNo, I am trying to set up the PATH variable in bashs .profile13:02
favroin bash13:02
TimSOkay, I ran it and it works.13:03
TimSSo, it is now at /usr/bin/qt4 correct?13:03
TimSOkay, awesome. I gotta go have some lunch now, back in a bit.13:04
favroTimS: the "what qt4 wants" bit is all you need to type in konsole as it is in your path now :)13:05
aletinel22944Hi all, I've got a problem with my intel 3945 ABG wireless card. I'am able to scan for networks but not to connect, that happends under kubuntu hardy, with gusty everything was working perfectly! Any help? Plese...13:07
blackflaghello all :) I want o use udma 4 for a hd, now its using udma3. How can I change this?13:21
blackflagwhen I do hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc the desktop freezing and I get segmantation fault13:22
blackflagwhat is wrong?13:22
blackflagCan someone help?13:22
blackflagokay, found it: hdparm -X68 /dev/hdc13:28
adz21chi, I have a webcam and a TV tuner card. When I boot up they seem to alternate between /dev/video1 and /dev/video0, which can get a bit annoying when using TV time and every so often I have to change the device from video0 to video1 to get the tv tuner. Any ideas how I might make them use specific /dev's?13:37
koala_manhow do I get kpowersave to not turn off the display when I close the lid?13:53
RurouniJoneshoi all, I have reinstalled wine on kubuntu using apt-get and now when I install programs they are not appearing in the kubuntu start-bar (for want of a better word). How can I get this working again?13:54
koala_manI tried disabling display power management, but it still does it13:54
mudit_hi13:57
NyadHi, how do I install the 32bit version of kafeine? I'm using amd64 version but I only have 32bit codecs for realmedia files coz the 64bit ones are dodgey14:00
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Nyad Hi, how do I install the 32bit version of kafeine?14:09
tt5786can some one help me with how to copy files in the file system14:09
NyadI am using 64bit kubuntu14:09
sFEARshaving some trouble connecting wirelessly thru knetwork manager, can anyone give me any ideas on how to fix?14:09
Nyadtt5786, sure14:09
tt5786how do you do it14:09
tt5786i have no idear14:09
RurouniJonessFEARs: you will need to give more details about what is happening other no one will be able to help14:09
Nyadto your home folder or somewhere in the root path14:09
Nyad?14:09
tt5786from /etc/... to /var/www14:10
tt5786lets say14:10
RurouniJonesGUI or command line?14:10
tt5786gui will be better14:11
jonnordrag and drop baby?14:11
tt5786lol tryed that dont do nothing14:11
RurouniJonesopen up both paths in konqueror or dolphin then drag and drop14:11
jonnorjust as in windooze or whatnot14:11
RurouniJonesmake sure you have permission to edit both locations14:11
Nyadhe needs root privelages14:11
sFEARsi had some problems while updating, i usually use gdm and am having some problems booting into it. i'm not booting sucessfully into Kdm and usually can right click on the knetwork manager icon and a list of available wireless networks pops up, it's not doing that now, it just shows my eth0, wlan0, & wlan114:11
jonnoropen your filebrowser as root14:11
tt5786how do i do that14:12
sFEARsi'm now* booting sucessfully into kdm14:12
jonnoralt + f2, then type kdesu dolphin14:12
tt5786im using ubuntu14:12
jonnorthat gives you temporary root "superuser" access14:12
jonnorthen type gksu nautilus14:12
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adz21chi, I have a webcam and a TV tuner card. When I boot up they seem to alternate between /dev/video1 and /dev/video0, which can get a bit annoying when using TV time and every so often I have to change the device from video0 to video1 to get the tv tuner. Any ideas how I might make them use specific /dev's? I also have the same problem with my cd drives, they keep switching betwen scd0 and scd1.14:13
l3xhow to fix this: i tried compiling some package, and it said: c compiler cannot make executables...14:13
tt5786thanks14:14
jonnoryou progably need superuser/root access l3x14:14
jonnoris it the make install step that fails?14:14
l3xjonnor: thanks14:14
sFEARswhen i try to use the ifup wlan1 command it tells me ingnoring unknown device wlan1. ???14:14
jonnorwlan1 is not usually not a device in linux? :p14:15
jonnorits usually eth1 or ath1 (why the hell is there two different, I dont know?)14:15
tt5786ok next question i want to use phpmyadmin how do i do that14:15
jonnordo you have it installed?14:16
sFEARsi've never heard of ath114:16
tt5786yes its installed to /etc/phpmyadmin and there is also php5 installed14:16
jonnoris your webserver running? (apache or whatnot)14:17
tt5786thats what i am trying to do14:17
tt5786i installed apache through that installer thing14:17
jonnorthen its probably allready running14:18
tt5786how do i access it14:18
sFEARsi could use some help connecting, anybody know a few troubleshooting steps i could try?14:18
jonnorbe sure that its running first14:18
tt5786how so14:18
jonnorcheck with Ksysmonitor14:19
RurouniJonesHi all, I have reinstalled wine using apt-get and it appears to have broken the integration with KDE somewhat. Applications installed are no longer added to the start-bar. The winecfg interface is de-skinned and I can't save any changes. Any ideas how I can get it re-integrated?14:19
tt5786ok remember i am using ubuntu14:19
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jonnoroh, I dont recall the name of the task-manager there14:19
jonnorbut it should be under System somewhere14:19
tt5786system moniter14:19
jonnorthats probably it14:20
jonnorcheck if apache2 is running14:20
tt5786ok what do i need to find ther14:20
tt5786its not in there14:20
jonnorbtw, whats the CLI command for listing processes ? anyone?14:20
RurouniJonesyou do realise this is #kubuntu, not #ubuntu , if you are having trouble with ubuntu you should really go there14:20
RurouniJonesjonnor ps14:21
RurouniJonesps aux for all processes14:21
RurouniJonestop for an interactive list14:21
tt5786i went to the ubuntu room and no one will help14:21
jonnorits not a ubuntu spesific problem, so might as well do it here14:21
tt5786thanks jonnor14:21
RurouniJoneswell, the drag and drop not working could well be, but I digress.14:22
jonnorI think he got that figured out tho...14:23
tt5786so how do i start the apatchi running14:23
tt5786yes that i did14:23
jonnorI think you need to log out and in14:23
jonnorcause apache is run under another user14:23
tt5786ok hold on14:23
tt5786i am restarting14:24
jonnormight even need to reboot14:24
fanelsomebody could fix the sound in Kubuntu?14:24
jonnorim not so sure tho14:24
tt5786its cool14:24
jonnorthe sound is working in Kubuntu :P (at least in mine)14:25
tt5786my sound works14:25
jonnorbut if you want help fanel  you would need to describe it more :P14:25
fanelok14:25
fanelin fact I have installes ubuntu on a laptop toshiba ii]14:26
tt5786ok loged back in not running14:26
RurouniJonestt5786: To see if apache is running go to the command line and type->     ps aux | grep httpd14:26
RurouniJonesor maybe grep apache14:26
fanell30-10x14:27
jonnorand youre sure that you installed it properly tt5786 ?14:27
fanelI used an original Cd14:27
jonnorif so youre gonna have to check the deamon/services listing14:28
fanelstiil I vahe got no sound14:28
jonnorand thats ubuntu/gnome spesific14:28
tt5786o got lots of info14:28
tt5786yea i used the package installer thing and it installed everything14:28
fanelI use KDE right now14:28
tt5786if i load http://localhost14:30
tt5786it works14:30
fanelso,jonnor,please tell me what should I do,what should I check?14:30
RurouniJonesThen it is running14:30
tt5786ok but then why can i not access phpmyadmin14:30
RurouniJonesbecause that is a whole different kettle of fish in terms of setup14:31
RurouniJoneswhich is probably beyond a general OS help channel like this14:31
tt5786ok well then how do i do that14:31
tt5786lol14:31
jonnorfanel: first of all you should check this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems14:31
jonnorand google the name of your laptop + kubuntu (or ubuntu) sound problem14:32
fanelok,thanks14:32
RurouniJonestt5786: Why do you want phpmyadmin anyway? Is this a server you are setting up or a home machine?14:34
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sFEARsi can't connect with knetworkmanager, anybody know a few troubleshooting steps i could try?14:51
BauldricksFEARs: probably won't help you, but I switched to wicd that seems to work for me better than knetworkmanager15:05
boritekhello15:06
boritekhow can i make mousewheel scrolling work man and less commands in Konsole ??15:07
boritekmouse scrolling work in gnome-terminal but not in Konsole15:07
Gladysomeone knows where I can see my queue of file waiting to be printed?15:07
boritekin man and less15:07
boritekGlady, i use ubuntu but i think you also should have an icon on the panel15:08
boritekwhile printing15:08
Gladyan icon15:09
Gladywhere15:09
BauldrickGlady: you could try http://127.0.0.1:631/  ?15:09
Gladywhat u mean15:09
boritekGlady, well i am not sure, coz i use ubuntu but there if i print something there will be an icon on the gnome-panel15:10
BluesKaj!grub15:12
ubottugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto15:12
Gladynice tool15:13
Gladytnkx15:13
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Gladywhat is the command to list the system spec ; lsmh?15:19
boritekmost basic is: uname -a15:20
blackflagcan someone tell me how I can reconfigure xsserver? When I do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg I m not able to choos a grafic- card or monitor?15:23
blackflagwhere is it gone? Are there new way to configure xserver under hardy?15:24
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baudthiefjust installed kubuntu on my laptop, are there any tools like nvidia-config for ati/fglrx?15:24
baudthiefneed to enable VSYNC/VBlank15:25
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RurouniJonesbaudthief: First you should install the nVidia binary drivers15:26
Joel123Hi, after inserting my television into my computer and selecting "clone picture" in the graphics options my ubuntucomputer only boots with terminal and not with the "graphic interface" how do I fix this?15:27
baudthiefRurouniJones: You misunderstood, I have an ATi card in this laptop15:27
RurouniJonesoh right15:27
BluesKajblackflag, yes the hardy reconfigure xserver-xorg procedure has changed from previous releases . There are fewer options to choose from for res/graphics and monitor settings than before.There may be an explanation as to why but i haven't seen one or any reasoning behind the changes15:30
blackflaghmm, I googled about that. Can also dont find a reason what it happens, sorry that I have to say it: sh..!15:35
ubuntu_Hello15:36
ubuntu_everyone15:36
ubuntu_Im trying to install kubuntu15:36
ubuntu_Im in the live desktop right now15:36
ubuntu_but the partition managed hangs15:36
ubuntu_at 50%15:36
blackflagand nothing what to do about it, there a hints for nv users, what is with the rest?15:36
ubuntu_any idea ??15:37
KRFubuntu_, restart, retry :(15:45
see-gubuntu_: the partition manager of the alternate installation disc seems to perform better than the one on the live disc (might only be the front-end, though). There's no using the box during installation then, though15:48
blackflagxserver comments: http://www.fsfe.org/en/fellows/gerloff/blog/why_did_you_castrate_xserver_xorg15:49
jabba_i just looked at the "ubottu" help document for wifi, but it does not work in KDE15:49
jabba_we do not have system > admin > network15:49
jabba_i'm trying to get my computer to join a wireless network and i don't know whihch tool to use15:50
concernedcitizenkNetworkManager15:50
jabba_concernedcitizen: yes but how do i get this to run? i don't see it in the menu anywhere15:50
concernedcitizenIts under "Internet"15:51
jabba_"under internet"??15:52
blackflaghmm, where can I go to beef about the xserver configuration?15:52
jabba_blackflag: there's an xorg channel on freenode, but that's not quite the right attitude :)15:53
blackflagI ll go to the ubuntu xserver maintainer....15:54
blackflagyes, the attitude is not correct in the moment, cause Im angry about that. Im asuming such things at M$, not here...15:56
jabba_concernedcitizen: where do i find what you're referring to15:56
jabba_blackflag: your attitude about "M$" is pretty bad too.15:57
blackflagno, thats not15:57
jabba_blackflag: free software is not written to make your life easier.15:57
blackflagyou are not correct, free software is to make my life easier, caue Linux is comfortable!15:58
concernedcitizenhit your KDE button, under "Internet"15:58
blackflagANd the xserver configuration is in the moment not15:58
jabba_!ot15:58
ubottu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!15:58
blackflagthis is a kubuntu issue!15:59
jabba_concernedcitizen: under my "kde button," i do not have an "inernet"15:59
jabba_+t15:59
concernedcitizenthen just launch it from konsole15:59
jabba_yeah that's the problem. when i run it from the console, it just returns without doing anything16:00
jabba_foo% knetworkmanager16:00
jabba_foo%16:01
concernedcitizenlook at your systray16:05
jabba_okay i see two connections16:08
jabba_er i don't16:08
jabba_i see two copies of the same connection16:08
ackeheya whats the easiest way to share files from kubuntu? smb, ftp, other?16:08
ackeits a temp solution16:09
jabba_acke: depends on who you're sharing them to16:09
jabba_acke: i prefer smb for most stuff  but if you can use scp it's a lot better16:09
ackewindows machine on local network16:09
jabba_(or sftp...)16:09
jabba_acke: just use smb16:09
ackejabba_ k. any good smb apps for configuring smb?16:10
Glady!ark16:10
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about ark16:10
ZZ1hi, can someone show me how to change screen resolution in kubuntu?   It's stuck in low graphics mode16:16
ZZ1there doesn't seem to be a gui option16:16
starenkaZZ1: kmenu -> system settings -> monitor & display16:18
ZZ1there is no monitor & display option when I do this16:19
ackeanyone used swat?16:21
starenkaZZ1: hmm, than smthng must be wrong then ...16:23
starenkaZZ1: u sure u don't have the advanced tab on?16:24
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ZZ1starenka: no advanced tab16:28
starenkaZZ1: sry, m8 been away (cigarette)16:32
starenkaZZ1: http://crap.starenka.net/dktp.png16:32
starenkaZZ1: nothing like this at all?16:32
ackei set up samba, with guest ok=yes but when i go to the ip. it asks for username and password. i tried using my regular one.. but that didnt work, what to do?16:33
ZZ1yes but no option for monitor16:34
starenkaZZ1: you can change the resolution in Xorg config files then... but it seems something is wrong with the video card detection, cause you should normally have the option in system settings16:36
Nyad Hi, I am using amd64 kubuntu, how do I install the 32bit version of kafeine?16:44
GuidMorrowI have an ATI TV-Wonder VE installed in this machine that's running Kubuntu 8.04, are there device drivers for it?16:45
abby87GuidMorrow: http://www.linuxlogin.com/hardware/ati_tv.php16:47
vera...16:48
veradfaf16:49
abby87vera: ur keyboard is running fine i guess16:50
veraguess?16:50
starenka:)16:50
weterantürkçe bilen ?16:51
abby87vera: 0r mebbe u r in need of localization?16:51
verauff16:51
abby87!help16:52
ubottuHi! I'm #kubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://tinyurl.com/5zfb6t - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots16:52
verawhat is this?16:52
abby87!tell16:52
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about tell16:52
benbreadHey i'm running kubuntu with latest updates but ever since my laptop shutdown uncleanly i cannot get my Atheros wireless card to work - error "wifi%d: unable to attach hardware: 'Hardware revision not supported' (HAL status 13)", the prop. driver is installed and "in use" but there is no ath0 device when running "iwconfig"16:53
abby87benbread: iwlist scan16:53
abby87benbread: is the driver using ndiswrapper?16:54
verawhat are you talking about?16:54
GuidMorrowI really don't see any hardware drivers on there, and Adept Manager can't find the package16:54
abby87vera: no u were typing dfaf an uff and stuff that's y16:55
benbreadabby87: iwlist scan reports only lo and eth0 - the driver i believe uses madwifi16:55
abby87benbread: ur eth0 is there16:55
abby87but its not working is it?16:56
abby87benbread: no experience on madwifi16:57
benbreadabby87: The wifi device is usually listed as "ath0"16:57
abby87benbread: ooh16:57
abby87benbread: hmmdo u dual boot? any other os on the same m/c?16:59
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shadowhywindanyone know why i can't join the openvpn channel.. i keep getting You need to be identified to join that channel17:04
gabrieldainshadowhywind: your nick is registered and you havent identified with NickServ17:05
gabrieldainmsg NickServ help for more info17:05
The-Compilershadowhywind: You've registered but you haven't checked your mail17:05
shadowhywindhehe thanks.. i didn't think i would get an email17:06
The-Compilershadowhywind: so simply execute the command you got in the mail and identify, then you should be able to join17:06
shadowhywindthanks so much17:07
shadowhywindmaybe you guys will know.. I am looking for a way to manually set an IP address for my tap0 device for openvpn. any ideas?17:07
GuidMorrowI need that TV-Wonder VE driver... Am I gonna have to get MythTV17:13
draikHow do I use the firefox binary from mozilla.org?17:16
The-Compilerdraik: why do you wanna use it?17:17
draikThe-Compiler: Issues with the currently installed (repo) firefox.17:17
azurehi17:22
azuredoes anyone know about a program that can search for regular expressions in log files  and dump them in a new file ?17:23
KRFazure, egrep <regexp> file > newfile17:24
azurethe problem with egrep is that if i am using log file with a lot of Errors , the Errors has a stacktrace17:26
azurebut all i see is the first row from it17:26
azureand i need the whole stacktrace so i can compare it to the previous one17:27
azurethe idea is to find unique Errors17:27
KRF -A NUM, --after-context=NUM17:29
KRFazure ^17:29
KRFman egrep17:29
draikHow do I use the firefox binary from mozilla.org?17:43
BenPAhi all ... I want to create a separate partition and put my /home directory in it (should have done this first) how should I copy my home directory (including hidden files and directories) into and have only it be used?17:55
leonhey17:55
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lgdmzi hav a problem with the flash i want to see a video in youtube but its say that i need a version of flash but i download already and still saying the same thing17:57
lgdmzcan someone help me?17:58
aandersewhere did you download flash from and what web browser17:59
Assurbanipalcan someone plz tell me where the program executable files are stored?17:59
BenPAI asked first lol17:59
aanderseAssurbanipal: several locations, /usr/bin , /bin, /usr/local/bin17:59
BenPAhi all ... I want to create a separate partition and put my /home directory in it (should have done this first) how should I copy my home directory (including hidden files and directories) into and have only it be used?18:00
Assurbanipalaanderse, because when i try to open a file from mozilla i must assosiate it with the prog...18:00
Assurbanipalaanderse, like with pdf files for example18:00
aanderseAssurbanipal: what pdf viewer do you use?18:00
Assurbanipalthe default in kde 4...18:01
aanderseBenPA: have you created the new home partition yet?18:01
Assurbanipalaanderse, which is called okular18:01
BenPAno, but I know how to do that18:01
lgdmzwell i download the flash of the pag that youyube send me18:02
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Assurbanipalaanderse, where do i find it to associate it? and is there another way instead of doing all that every time i need to open a file through mozilla?18:03
aanderseAssurbanipal: iceweasel just opened them for me.... weird. until someone gives you a better solution you can just tell it /usr/bin/okular18:03
BenPAaanderse: I was concerned as to how to copy or move the old directory to the new partition18:03
lgdmzof what pag i can download the flash? to see videos of youtube?18:04
aanderselgdmz: try installing flash from ubuntu's package manager18:04
aanderselgdmz: you could open a terminal and type "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree"18:04
aandersethat would give you flash18:05
aanderseBenPA: i guess i would recommend creating the partition now18:06
Assurbanipalaanderse, i cannot find okular in /usr/bin folder18:06
aanderseAssurbanipal: type in konsole "whereis okular"18:06
lgdmzdont want i put that but dont do nothing18:06
aanderselgdmz: what?18:06
aanderseBenPA: anywho, make the extra partition, but don't mount it as /home yet18:07
BenPAaanderse: I also read somewhere that it was a good idea to create a separate /var also ... is this true18:07
BenPAaanderse: ok18:07
aanderseBenPA: after you create the ext3 partition, mount it somewhere like /mnt/temp, then do a full copy18:07
Assurbanipalaanderse, i got nothing back! the reply was: okular:18:07
aanderseBenPA: i'd probably recommend backing up your data too, if you don't know what you're doing you could get in some trouble18:07
BenPAaanderse: that is my question ... how do I copy so that the hidden files and such are also copied18:08
aanderseBenPA: after you copy all of the data over, you should be able to edit /etc/fstab and add the new partition to have /home as a mount point18:08
merikehi, how can one find out recently applied updates?18:08
aanderseBenPA: i assume a simple cp -R /home/ /mnt/tmp would suffice18:08
aanderseAssurbanipal: do you have okular installed?18:09
Assurbanipalaanderse, it is in my start menu and i run it!18:09
aanderseAssurbanipal: open up dolphin/konqueror and go to /usr/share/applications/kde418:10
starenkaAssurbanipal: should be in /usr/lib/kde4/bin/okular18:10
BenPAaanderse: under cp it says -a is the same as dpR ... should I use that instead?18:11
aanderseBenPA: well let's man it :)18:12
aanderse-a, --archive18:12
BenPAaanderse: yes18:12
BenPAshould I use that instead?18:12
aandersedid you want to archive it?18:12
BenPAshould I am not sure what the difference is18:13
Assurbanipalstarenka, ok tnx!! it worked! but how can i avoid looking for the files every single time i need to open something in every possible folder??18:13
BenPAshould I just want to make sure it is an exact copy18:13
Assurbanipalstarenka, and why the whereis okular returned nothing?18:14
BenPAaanderse: I just want to make sure everything is copied correctly18:14
starenkaAssurbanipal: try locate okular18:14
aanderseBenPA: i'd just recommend doing a cp -R /home /mnt/tmp and then do a few simple checks once it's done to assure yourself18:15
BenPAok, let me partition and be right back18:15
starenkaAssurbanipal: just rightclick pdf file -> open with -> write the path in the input field and check smthng like "remember" and it will work forever18:15
Assurbanipalstarenka, ok that worked! i ment how will it work if i don;t know the path of the app18:16
starenkaAssurbanipal: i don't get the question m8.. if you're running it from konsole u can use smthng like autocompleter - its on ur tab ey18:16
starenkaAssurbanipal: tab key18:16
starenkaAssurbanipal: just write couple letters and hit tab key18:17
starenkaAssurbanipal: you can set up an alias if you want18:17
starenkaAssurbanipal: echo 'alias okular = "/usr/lib/kde4/bin/okular" >> ~/.bashrc18:19
starenkaAssurbanipal: and then just write okular <file>18:19
aandersestarenka: is there a benefit to alias'ing it as opposed to creating a symlink in /usr/bin ?18:20
Assurbanipalstarenka, when you try to open a specific file for the first time through mozilla, it asks for the aplication to open it with and i must browse to it through mozilla. what i ask is "how do somebody avoid looking to all possible locations for the app?"18:20
starenkaaanderse: no :))18:20
aandersestarenka: ok, i just asked because i never worked with alias's much, thanks18:20
starenkaaanderse: i guess alias is smarter solution18:21
aandersestarenka: for a multi-user system a symlink would be better though, correct?18:22
starenkaAssurbanipal: oh. i thought you're opening it from dolhpin or such..18:22
starenkaaanderse: 100p correct18:22
aandersek18:22
Assurbanipalstarenka, no m8, it must be opened through mozilla... and that is a problem because of the variety of locations used to store programs18:23
starenkaAssurbanipal: ooo.. i dont use firefox... it doesnt remember the associations?18:23
starenkaAssurbanipal: lemme see18:23
Assurbanipalstarenka, it does remeber, but u have to do it for the first time for all possible file types18:23
starenkaAssurbanipal: shame for firefox then... Opera uses system default associations18:24
starenkaAssurbanipal: or at least it seems like that18:24
Assurbanipalstarenka, is there a work around for that?18:25
starenkaAssurbanipal: i dont, i'm afraid.. you can set those in preferences->applications, but it seems it adds more while using.. it just don't reads the system default ones :(18:26
Assurbanipalstarenka, tnx for your help !18:27
Kage_Jittaihow can I reset my sound settings to the default18:27
starenkaAssurbanipal: hehe. for what? hey try to check this out http://www.terminaldigit.com/2008/08/08/get-firefox-to-honor-kde-file-associations/18:28
Kage_Jittaimy mic worked two days ago and now its not working cause I messed something up18:28
Kage_Jittaiand can't get it fixed18:28
starenkaAssurbanipal: smart soulution i guess :))18:28
starenkaAssurbanipal: *smart18:29
starenkaAssurbanipal: fok! * solution18:29
Assurbanipalstarenka, looks great! but how do i make a script :P????18:30
starenkaAssurbanipal: run kate18:31
lgdmzdo someone here is from dominican republic????18:32
lgdmz?????????????18:33
EagleSnlgdmz whay do u want someone from there18:36
EagleSnlgdmz puedes visitar #kubuntu-es para hablar en español, si es eso lo que quieres18:37
Kage_Jittaihaha fixed it :P18:38
lgdmzkisiera una relacionado con ubuntu18:38
EagleSnperdon,. me ocnfundi, prueba en #ubuntu-es18:39
lgdmzgrxx18:39
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draikHow do I use the firefox binary from mozilla.org?18:44
EagleSnhi draik18:45
EagleSnextract the package18:45
draikEagleSn: Hi18:45
EagleSnand run the binary18:45
_2anyone know how to determine if a laptop has builtin mic or not ?18:46
draikEagleSn: Ok. That is what I have been doing, but I still have the same delay issue and thought I may have been doing something wrong. Thank you.18:46
ubuntu_hey there18:47
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EagleSndid u downloaded a file called firefox-3.0.1-tar.bz2 isnt?18:47
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EtuHmm18:47
_2Voyager52918:47
Voyager529hey 218:47
Voyager529mind giving me a hand?18:48
EtuDoes anyone knows something about using HP Laserjet Color CP1215 in kubuntu 8.04?18:48
_2that's base two.    and just suscently define your isssue and the desired end. Voyager52918:48
_2susenctly   maybe18:49
* _2 not spell squat18:49
Voyager529sorry, _2. I'm trying to get libSDL installed so that I can use xwax. It doesn't appear to be in the repositories and I'm still command line stupid.....18:49
aanderselibsdl is in the repos18:49
_2!info libsdl18:50
ubottuPackage libsdl does not exist in hardy18:50
_2!find libsdl18:50
ubottuFound: libsdl-image1.2, libsdl-image1.2-dev, libsdl-pango-dev, libsdl-pango1, libsdl-ttf2.0-0 (and 29 others)18:50
Voyager529*light bulb*18:50
Voyager529so would I be better off trying this in Mint?18:50
aanderse!find libsdl1.218:50
ubottuFound: libsdl1.2-dev, libsdl1.2debian, libsdl1.2debian-all, libsdl1.2debian-alsa, libsdl1.2debian-esd (and 4 others)18:50
aanderse:)18:50
_2!info {libsdl-image1.2,libsdl-sound1.2}18:53
ubottuPackage libsdl-image1.2libsdl-sound1.2 does not exist in hardy18:53
Voyager529so basically libSDL 2.0 doesn't work in ubuntu 8.x; would it work in Linux Mint?18:53
* _2 watches the bot freek out like it can't expand a simple glob ....18:54
yurimxpxmanI just accidentally overwrited a file with mv. See here <http://pastebin.com/m379aa026>. Is there any way to get this back?18:54
_2Voyager529 ah 2.0    hmm lets do a find on that first.18:55
_2!find libsdl218:55
ubottuPackage/file libsdl2 does not exist in hardy18:55
_2so it's source or forget it, i guess.18:55
Voyager529gotcha18:55
* Voyager529 grabs MINT CD18:55
Voyager529if I'm not back, you know it worked =)18:56
Voyager529thanks for your help, base two!18:56
aandersewhat's sdl2? i've never heard of that18:57
_2yurimxpxman looks like you need to retrieve both 2008-08-14.php and 2008-08-14.html from your backups.18:58
grifon=)18:59
grifonдоброго вечера18:59
bazhang!ru18:59
ubottuПожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke18:59
_2yurimxpxman and you have vi opening a graphical window ???       </shutters>19:00
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yurimxpxman_2: no... it's an ssh session with X forwarding enabled19:02
SmokeEater85911mornin19:03
_2yurimxpxman vi file.name yelds >>>     8. X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication.  <<< looks like vi is trying to open a graphical window to me.   what did i miss ?      or just forget i mentioned it.19:03
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RurouniJonesAnyone got any recommendations about hardware for a home server? preferably small, must be fanless, have 1TB and linux friendly components19:04
yurimxpxman_2: I have no idea why it said that. It's not a graphical app at all.. it's not gvim or anything19:04
_2yurimxpxman hmmm your "vi" may be a shell wraper that detects $DISPLAY and uses gvim    idk.      alias | grep vi  ;file `which vi`19:06
_2yurimxpxman at any rate.   i doubt that the overwriten file would be recoverable if you have emergency remount readonly as soon as it sync'd    and unless it's a really really important peace of work, it's not worth it to try.   hope you had backups.19:07
yurimxpxman_2: I'm trying foremost right now19:08
_2well i don't mean to discurrage but the file was not deleted, it was overwriten,  so that will most likely fail.19:10
_2!info foremost19:10
ubottuforemost (source: foremost): Forensics application to recover data. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.5.3-1 (hardy), package size 40 kB, installed size 136 kB19:10
_2foremost - Recover files using their headers and footers19:11
yurimxpxman_2: well, I'm hoping that on a 750GB hdd, my remaining 300GB will provide some sort of cushion around it :)19:11
_2if, and that is always an operative word.   if you succeed,  please let me know.      i always like to hear about miracles19:14
forty-sevenhi all, newbie question: what is difference between Kubuntu 8.04 and the Kubuntu 8.04 KDE4 remix??19:15
SmokeEater85911one has KDE3 one has KDS419:16
forty-sevenahh19:16
forty-sevenok19:16
SmokeEater85911!kde319:16
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about kde319:16
forty-sevenso KDE4 it is!19:16
forty-seven:D19:16
SmokeEater85911kde 4 sucks19:16
SmokeEater85911its still new, still buggy and not quite there yet19:16
SmokeEater85911KDE3 is still fully supported and most of the kinks are worked out because of it's age19:16
forty-sevenso...19:16
SmokeEater85911i'd go with KDE319:17
forty-sevenfor a first timer, go with KDE3?19:17
SmokeEater85911*nod*19:17
_2!both19:17
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about both19:17
SmokeEater85911its technically KDE3.5.9 but who's counting19:17
_2also kde4.1....  but who's counting that either19:17
SmokeEater85911exactly..19:17
SmokeEater85911forty-seven: get KDE319:18
forty-sevenroger19:18
forty-seventhanks19:18
forty-seven:D19:18
SmokeEater85911*kicks sound issue*19:18
forty-seveni was gonna use gentoo19:18
stabis it better to install KD3 than ubuntu?19:18
_2forty-seven and you can add kde4 to that and make up your own mind.19:18
forty-sevenbut I keep having problems with it19:18
forty-sevenso I'm thinking kubuntu would be a better starting point19:18
_2stab is 9am better than 9pm ?19:18
SmokeEater85911stab its all user preference.. Ubuntu uses gnome, Kubuntu uses KDE19:18
_2stab depends on whom you ask.19:19
SmokeEater85911Im still a newb and Im loving Kubuntu19:19
forty-sevenI love Konquest19:19
SmokeEater85911(id love it more if I can get my sound working)19:19
forty-sevenbest game ever.19:19
forty-seven:p19:19
stabKonquest?19:19
forty-sevenits a KDE game19:19
_2Q.   "what do linux users do?"19:19
_2A.   "they install software."19:19
stabcan kubuntu be installed with windows in dual booting?19:19
SmokeEater85911yup19:20
forty-sevenyeah19:20
SmokeEater85911thats what Im doing with vista19:20
stabit is the same thing?19:20
forty-seveni got one vista pc, not my choice though19:20
_2stab dual or tripple or quad or....19:20
stabwith a cd?19:20
_2yep19:20
SmokeEater85911yeah I hate vista.. im trying to move away from M$ though19:20
stabso19:20
stabI will install my new hdd as a slave19:20
SmokeEater85911you can either install a new HDD or partition your existing one19:21
forty-sevenmy friend installed vista and was using the pc19:21
stabdelete ubuntu and then install kubunu?19:21
forty-seveneventually I'll nuke it and install several OSes19:21
forty-sevenits my media PC, so I'd like to be able to run some old win 98 games19:21
stabwhat will my bios will do with that19:21
SmokeEater85911do youhave ubuntu on your other hdd?19:21
_2linux doesn't care what disk it's on,  doesn't care if it has a partition or not, much less if the partition is primary or not.    all that matters is that the boot loader can load the kernel/initramfs pair.19:21
stabwhen I boot and choose kubuntu it will go on my new hdd?19:22
SmokeEater85911thats all up to where you install it19:22
stabwill have have to format my new hd with bios or with sudo?19:22
_2let the installer do that19:23
stab?19:23
_2!ubiquity19:23
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about ubiquity19:23
stabwho is the installer?19:23
_2!info ubiquity19:23
ubottuubiquity (source: ubiquity): Ubuntu live CD installer. In component main, is optional. Version 1.8.12 (hardy), package size 2355 kB, installed size 8392 kB19:23
_2that installer    ^19:23
stabI want to do it myself19:23
SmokeEater85911the installer meaning the installation program19:24
_2then you'll have to fight with ubiquity.   cause it wants to do it before it copies files....19:24
stabI can install it on a new hd not formatted and it will do it before to get installed?19:24
SmokeEater85911go to youtube there are videos how to install it19:24
_2stab yes19:24
_2stab that's what i'm saying.19:24
SmokeEater85911ugh so back to tryin to fix this crap19:25
SmokeEater85911apparently its seeing my audio card.. it just wont load it up for some reason19:27
staband it will not affect my windows in anyway?19:27
_2stab it will ask you how you want to proceed, and give options   amongst them will be things like "manually edit the partition table"  which will let you use "qt/g/parted"  to setup any hdd you may have in the box or connected to it, the way you want it.19:27
SmokeEater85911stab: it wont effect windows at all19:27
stabok19:28
staband I dont want partitions19:28
stabwhy should I do partitions?19:28
stabif I need place for windows files?19:28
_2SmokeEater85911 it can.  depending on user input.  it can totally blot out anything on your hdd if you want/tell it too19:28
SmokeEater85911ah, I dunno I just created a separate partition and slapped it on there19:29
SmokeEater85911Im gonna buy a 120gb hdd just for linux, and so that way they arent even "touching" eachother19:29
stabI just have to stay in my new G disk and dont touch my C19:30
_2stab you probably want one partition.   most people find it easiest to use the installer if you have at least one partition.19:30
SmokeEater85911granted Ill have to do a fresh install =(19:30
stabok19:30
stabone partition19:30
stabcould I have ubuntu in my C and kubuntu in my G for a while?19:30
adz21chi, I have a webcam and a TV tuner card. When I boot up they seem to alternate between /dev/video1 and /dev/video0, which can get a bit annoying when using TV time and every so often I have to change the device from video0 to video1 to get the tv tuner. Any ideas how I might make them use specific /dev's? I also have the same problem with my cd drives, they keep switching betwen scd0 and scd1.19:31
agencia01saofrancisco19:31
_2stab before you proceed with only one partition,  may i ask if you have though of some of the advantages of having your home on a seperate fs from the system ?19:31
agencia01agsaofrancisco19:31
_2stab C and G ???   C and G what ?19:31
SmokeEater85911!audio19:31
ubottuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP319:31
SmokeEater85911hmm19:32
stabsepareta file system from home?19:32
stabmy hdds19:32
stabin case it wont work with my new one19:32
stabto find solution in ubuntu19:32
_2stab and ubuntu is ubuntu is ubuntu.   you can have as many desktops on a linux system as you want.19:32
SmokeEater85911i think Im just missing something here19:32
BenPAaanderse: are you there19:32
stabwhat u mean by fs?19:33
_2fs=file system19:33
SmokeEater85911i can detect my sound card in the shell, but the system wont detect it19:33
stabyou mean I could make more partitions and ?19:33
stabhave file system separate  from what?19:34
stabdont complicate it too much I will do it explose19:34
aanderseBenPA: yeah what's up?19:34
_2stab the root filesystem  / is all that is required, but if you have a second fs /home  then if you "need" to reinstall you don't lose anything in /home  only the system is reinstalled.19:34
stabI think i should read on partitions19:34
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stabah ok19:35
_2it's a common practice for linux users to seperate their system into chuncks that way.19:35
stablike keeping all my documets and settings in windows?19:35
_2stab sort of  yeah19:35
stabI could have them always seperate than I could reinstall anynew version easily?19:36
_2stab more like having them on a seperate disk.     but yeah same idea.    and to your las question  yes.19:36
_2last19:36
_2!partitions19:37
stabI will have a menu for that?19:37
ubottuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in !GNOME under !Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For !Edgy and later, see !fstab and !DiskMounter19:37
stabI m lil lost19:38
_2stab  yes in the installer.   it will allow that.     there was a sujestion to view some vidios on utube about that...19:38
stabafter I reboot with my new hdd I enter in ubuntu and do those commands for the new hdd?19:38
_2stab ignore that bot post   ^  i mis que'd that one.19:38
_2!home19:39
ubottuYour home folder is where all of your personal files are usually kept. For mounting your home folder on a separate partition, please see: http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome19:39
_2that one is the one i wanted   ^19:39
stabok so I could all format and do what i want with my empty hd with linux19:39
_2yes19:39
staband after i reinstall what I want on it19:40
mariot19:40
staband I delete ubuntu in my C19:40
stabat the end19:40
_2what do yo mean "I delete ubuntu in my C" ???   i'm not understanding that at all.19:40
_2C++ ?19:41
_2:)19:41
fiyawerx_2: wubi maybe?19:41
stabI want to have all my linux on my new hd19:41
_2fiyawerx i'm wondering...19:41
stabI installed ubuntu with wubi in windows19:41
_2stab yes and ?19:41
fiyawerxand now he wants to install it to it's own hd?19:41
_2oh ok   yes you can delete that file19:41
stabI want windows on C and linux on the new hd19:41
morovingкакой канал для рууских19:41
_2yes you can delete that file that wubi created19:42
staband before to delete it could I copy my Home/user in my new hd?19:42
_2yes19:42
stabok19:43
staband then i could install kubuntu in a separate partition19:43
stabis it correct?19:43
_2the only thing that i would have any concern about.   i'm not sure that grub will insurrect an existing grub.  you might have to manually install grub for the new installation of linux.  but that's a simple process, well documented on the wiki.19:44
_2stab yes.    i think you have a full grasp of the situation.19:45
_2!grub | as per the though on grub.19:45
ubottuas per the though on grub.: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto19:45
stabok and what is grup like a bios?19:45
_2grub = GRand Unified Bootloader19:46
_2no not like bios.   if you have memory as far back as windows 9x   it's like the   c:\iosys.sys and msdos.sys   that loaded windows.19:47
_2and that's not a good comparison.19:48
stabok I will read all that before installing it anyway19:49
stabthanks19:49
stabI hope I will be able to open ubuntu after19:49
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john_Hi20:01
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JohnTheUbuntuGuyhello?20:04
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emilsedgh!hi | JohnTheUbuntuGuy20:05
ubottuJohnTheUbuntuGuy: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!20:05
JohnTheUbuntuGuyHi everybody20:05
JohnTheUbuntuGuyI'm happy to say after a few failed attempts I got Wubi Working and installed Jubuntu20:06
JohnTheUbuntuGuy*Kubuntu*20:06
emilsedghJohnTheUbuntuGuy: Congratulations!20:06
JohnTheUbuntuGuyThanks!20:07
JohnTheUbuntuGuyCause when I booted Kubuntu the second time it went to a DOS Like windows and said BusyBox and I didn't know how to fix that20:08
JohnTheUbuntuGuySO i did Wubi a second time and It worked20:08
BenPAaanderse: I created the new partition20:11
JohnTheUbuntuGuyI used Wubi too do Kubuntu and I had to install Wubi the second time20:11
BenPAbut moving and copying the old /home to new home was confusing20:12
JohnTheUbuntuGuyI am the only one here responding20:12
SmokeEater85911how do I know if my sound system is not on mute?20:13
JohnTheUbuntuGuyIt will show it on the bottom bar on the bottom right cornor where the little speaker icon is20:13
JohnTheUbuntuGuyif it is Kubuntu20:14
JohnTheUbuntuGuyOr if that's not on mute check your speakers20:14
SmokeEater85911i dont have a speaker icon there at all20:14
JohnTheUbuntuGuyOh then you didn't install sound drivers20:14
JohnTheUbuntuGuyOr you did but hided the icon20:15
SmokeEater85911yeah because I have no sound and ive been trying to figure this out since last night20:15
JohnTheUbuntuGuyOh that means you gotta get sound drivers20:16
starenkaalsamixer?20:16
JohnTheUbuntuGuyMine already had sound drivers installed20:16
SmokeEater85911well mine didnt i guess so..20:16
SmokeEater85911it detects my card in alsamixer20:17
SmokeEater85911Realtek ALC26820:17
JohnTheUbuntuGuyOk20:17
starenkadont ya have it muted there?20:17
JohnTheUbuntuGuyThen you should have sound if it detects it20:17
starenka(alsamixer)20:17
SmokeEater85911doesnt say if its muted or not20:18
JohnTheUbuntuGuyMaybe the sound works because I used wubi to install Kubuntu which installs drivers20:18
JohnTheUbuntuGuyIf you just installed Kubuntu regually You need drivers for it20:18
SmokeEater85911the master channel is in red though20:18
SmokeEater85911could that mean mute?20:18
JohnTheUbuntuGuyIt could20:18
starenkaSmokeEater85911: nope20:19
SmokeEater85911no, cant be muted, because my FN+Esc is mute and it says mute off20:19
starenkaSmokeEater85911: you got white - green - red as volume highness20:19
JohnTheUbuntuGuyI don't have that icon20:19
SmokeEater85911ah, when I mute it the 00 says MM20:19
JohnTheUbuntuGuyI have sound though20:19
SmokeEater85911sooo.. why wont it play sound20:19
starenkaSmokeEater85911: bingo, baby20:19
starenkaSmokeEater85911: that's the question worth a penny, m820:20
SmokeEater85911maybe I have a wrong driver?20:20
JohnTheUbuntuGuyI'm still trying to find out how to install Beryl on Kubuntu20:20
SmokeEater85911you dont20:20
starenkaSmokeEater85911: dunno i got realtek alc262 and works20:20
SmokeEater85911its now compiz-fusion20:21
SmokeEater85911!compiz-fusion20:21
ubottuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness from KMenu -> System -> Desktop Effects - further help in #compiz-fusion20:21
JohnTheUbuntuGuyI am trying to install that20:21
SmokeEater85911!beryl20:21
ubottuBeryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz20:21
SmokeEater85911*kicks sound issue* damnit20:22
unamanicSmokeEater: to get the speaker Icon, you may have to manually start kmix20:22
starenkaSmokeEater85911: you don't hear anything at all? i gotproblems with heaphone output tho20:22
SmokeEater85911wheres kmix?20:22
SmokeEater85911ah i got it20:23
starenkaalt+f2 kmix20:23
starenkayou got notebook, right?20:23
SmokeEater85911yeah20:23
BenPAcan anyone help me copy and mount a new home directory to a new partition?20:23
starenkait doesn't play from speakrs ot to headhpones or at all20:23
SmokeEater85911at all20:24
JohnTheUbuntuGuyI just installed Compiz Core20:24
unamanicSmokeEater: everytime I do a fresh install I have to go in to kmix and unmute or turn up pcm and both front inputs in the mixer20:24
unamanicMy sound is intel though20:24
starenkawell, m8 as i said i had problems with headphones output, and i solved it with compiling alsa20:24
SmokeEater85911hmm lemme mess with kmix on sec20:25
JohnTheUbuntuGuyI had to use Kubuntu cause Ubuntu makes my computer graphics scramble20:26
BenPAcan anyone help me copy and mount a new home directory to a new partition?20:26
JohnTheUbuntuGuyand my computer is Brand New20:26
bastian#kubuntude20:26
bastian!#kubuntude20:26
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about kubuntude20:26
bastian20:26
bastiankubuntu german channel?20:26
bastiandeam jabber20:26
starenkaSmokeEater85911: try this one http://blog.starenka.net/linux/2008-04-28-nefunkcni-vystup-na-sluchatka-fujitsu-siemens-esprimo-u9200-kubuntu-804  i wrote it in czech, but all you need is are the terminal commands... it can work and if not, it wont be worse, right? :P))20:27
unamanicbastian: try #kubuntu-de20:28
BenPAcan anyone help me copy and mount a new home directory to a new partition?20:28
unamanicBenPA: do you have a partition set up for it already?20:28
BenPAunarmanic: yes20:28
BenPAunamanic: yes20:29
unamanicBenPA:I don't know the GUI way to do it20:29
BenPAI rather use konsole20:30
afeijocan I run wingames thru wine?20:30
BenPAunamanic: I rather use konsole20:30
starenkaBenPA: sudo mount /dev/hdax /mountpoint20:31
starenkaBenPA: cp -R ~ /mountpoint20:31
starenkaBenPA: after copying, mount the new partition as home in fstavb and you're done20:32
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SmokeEater85911okay... so flash is locking up firefox, which locks up the system20:37
SmokeEater85911I got sound working though.. but its real quiet..20:38
SmokeEater85911hello?20:41
unamanicSmokeEater: there is a flashsupport lib that needs to be installed inorder for flash to work20:41
SmokeEater85911flash works, it just locks up lo20:42
SmokeEater85911i downloaded some flash player thing20:42
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unamanicSmokeEater: That happens to me if all of the levels are not turned up in the mixer20:43
unamanicThe quite sound20:43
SmokeEater85911i had everyone up it wasnt very loud20:43
SmokeEater85911my laptop has 5 speakers.. 4 and a subwoofer20:44
SmokeEater85911I dont think they are all working20:44
forty-sevenomg20:44
forty-sevenhelp20:44
forty-sevenhow do I get the old konquest :(20:44
forty-seventhey only have konquest for KDE420:44
forty-sevenwhich does not work properly last I checked20:44
SmokeEater85911once I can get flash working I can play some songs and test it20:44
SmokeEater85911i need that flashplugin-nonfree right?20:45
unamanicSmokeEater:yes20:45
ign0ramussmokeeater85911: i've always had the best luck downloading the tar.gz file directly from adobe, extracting, and installing the binary20:46
SmokeEater85911I already installed the nonfree20:46
ign0ramusSmokeEater85911: plus, you can also get Flash Beta 10, which supports wmode and V4L2 and V4L120:46
ign0ramusSmokeEater85911: my mistake, its and RC now20:47
SmokeEater85911a what20:47
SmokeEater85911im lookin on the adept manager20:47
ign0ramusrelease candidate.  it's worked out most of the bugs (most)20:47
ign0ramushttp://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/20:47
SmokeEater85911so download this flash10?20:48
afeijocan I run wingames thru wine?20:48
ign0ramusSmokeEater85911: if you'd like.  it's pretty stable, and you can actually use a webcam on flash-based sites now20:48
afeijocan I run wingames thru wine?20:49
SmokeEater85911wow.. thats another thing i need to get working my built in cam but 1 thing at a time... SOUND20:49
ign0ramusSmokeEater85911: and i've had fewer problems with Flash crashing Firefox20:49
ign0ramusafeijo: you're better off using CrossOver20:49
afeijowhats that?20:50
ign0ramus!crossover20:50
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about crossover20:50
SmokeEater85911lets see if i remember how to install tar.gz files..20:50
Gladywhat is the problem with operamotifwrapper?20:50
ign0ramusafeijo: http://www.codeweavers.com/products/cxgames/20:51
afeijocool, but its not free20:51
ign0ramusSmokeEater85911: extract, open terminal and "cd" to install directory.  run "./flashplayer-installer" and follow prompts.20:51
ign0ramusafeijo: that is the best way.  you can get some games to run under wine.  what game(s) were you thinking of?20:52
afeijocivilization 420:52
ign0ramusafeijo: http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2007/06/10/special-civilization-iv-playable-on-linux/20:53
Ash-FoxCiv 4's copy protection wrecked my DVD drive.20:54
kristian_thats stupid20:55
ign0ramusash-fox: how is that possible?20:55
SmokeEater85911brb20:56
Ash-Foxign0ramus, windows version of civ4 has a copy protection that does something not officially supported by standards with dvd drives to check the disc for authenticity20:56
afeijohmmmmmm, thanks20:56
acke_nafeijo: http://frankscorner.org/ is a wickid site for games in linux, it has guides for how to set up games and applications to run in linux20:56
ign0ramusash-fox: while i'm skeptical, if that's true, that is total BS!  Your DVD drive doesn't work at all now?20:57
Ash-Foxign0ramus, nope. I had it replaced twice with same model under waranty, then I noticed a pattern. It was after every time I started Civ4 :P20:58
ign0ramusash-fox: wow.  just wow.20:58
Ash-FoxI complained first to my OEM about the issue, they took about a month to get back to me (while I was continiously harassing them for a answer). Upon which they found some unsupported stuff with Civ4. I contacted the Sid company over it, they were extremely rude.20:59
Ash-FoxI never got the issue resolved.20:59
ign0ramusnot surprising.  were you running it in Kubuntu or Windows?21:00
SmokeEater85911k I think the new ff10 is installed21:00
Ash-FoxWindows XP.21:00
ubuntuhej21:00
SmokeEater85911how do I know if its installed right or not?21:00
Ash-FoxCzesc ubuntu.21:00
ign0ramusSmokeEater85911: open firefox and navigate to * about:plugins * it will tell you.21:00
SmokeEater85911awesome.. k here goes, lets see if it will crash...21:01
Ash-FoxI was told by sid meiers to go complain to the company that made their copy protection software after harassing them for a few days.21:02
SmokeEater85911hmm well its working but it is making my system lag pretty bad..21:02
Ash-FoxI can't remember what it was called now.21:02
Ash-FoxBut I did, and I never managed to ever get a response from them.21:02
ign0ramusSmokeEater85911: try another flash site (youtube, newgrounds, whatever) to make sure it's not the code on the site you're on21:03
SmokeEater85911gr.. im trying newgrounds.. so i know the site isnt messed up21:04
SmokeEater85911man FF is a piece of crap for linux21:06
ign0ramusSmokeEater85911: maybe for your configuration, but it's fairly usable for many of us.21:06
SmokeEater85911it wont even navigate away from this site now21:06
ign0ramusSmokeEater85911: what in particular is the problem?21:06
ign0ramusSmokeEater85911: close firefox and reopen it, try flash site again.  if it's still a problem, uninstalling is very easy21:07
SmokeEater85911there got it to go to some other site21:07
ign0ramusSmokeEater85911: what version of firefox are you using?21:07
SmokeEater85911k this other site im trying has flash ads on it, they are working21:07
kaiserjddoes anyone know of a way to install a linux distro from an .iso onto a flash drive using kubuntu?21:08
SmokeEater859113.0.121:08
ign0ramusSmokeEater85911: ok, because as you may know the older versions had serious memory issues that would lag a system.21:08
freddy_hello21:09
ign0ramuskaiserjd: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2008/05/15/usb-kubuntu-804-persistent-install-from-linux/21:10
freddy_keiner da?21:12
kaiserjdign0ramus: should this work for just about any live cd?21:12
BenPAunamanic: I am back21:12
ign0ramuskaiserjd: haven't tried it... this article is particular to Kubuntu 8.04, but i'm guessing other versions would be similar.  don't quote me on that, though ;)21:13
MetaMorfoziShi all21:14
kaiserjdok.... i'm wanting to try some other distros and don't want to go blow money on cd-rw's or waste all of my blank dvd-r's so... i'll give it a try21:14
MetaMorfoziSxrandr reports that the connected monitor's maximum resolution is 1024x768, but it's false. It's actually 1280x102421:14
MetaMorfoziShow can i set it to the normal resolution?21:14
ign0ramusmetamorfozis: have you tried * xrandr -s 1280x1024 * ?21:15
MetaMorfoziSit's an externaal monitor, so i have tried:  xrandr --output VGA --mode 1280x102421:16
MetaMorfoziSbut it says can not find mode...21:16
ign0ramusMetaMorfoziS: i think the * -s * parameter forces the resolution. not positive, though21:16
SmokeEater85911yup... crashed21:17
SmokeEater85911again21:17
soniker89.: 17: Can't open /etc/default/console-setup means?21:17
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SmokeEater85911so is it firefox that keeps crashing me, or the flash plugin?21:18
soniker89mines to I got problems with flash too21:18
matt_I have a usb device that lsusb doesn't show. dmesg says new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address, but not accepting address. I tried modprobe -r ehci_hcd but can't get it to show21:18
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SmokeEater85911soniker89: do you use FF?21:19
ign0ramusSmokeEater85911: it is probably the flash plugin.  It happens to almost all of us.  I found Flash10 to crash less than Flash9, but ymmv21:19
Zombocomguys21:19
SmokeEater85911do there is no way around it?21:19
matt_anyone any ideas how I can get it to recognise?21:20
ign0ramusSmokeEater85911: not to my knowledge.  I don't think there's a person here who's  had no problems at all with their flash plugin.  Linux support isnt quite up to speed yet.21:20
gilboman007i am using ubuntu and want to switch to kubuntu is there any way i can keep all my files and do the switch21:21
SmokeEater85911thats awesome.. its a good thing about 90% of sites out there today use flash21:21
ign0ramusSmokeEater85911: write a letter to Adobe.21:21
SmokeEater85911lol21:22
SmokeEater85911adobe doesnt care because Linux doesnt pay them21:22
ign0ramusSmokeEater85911: pretty much.  they're getting better, as we're a vocal community, but you can't fault Linux for poor vendor support.21:22
SmokeEater85911does Konqueror have the same issues with the flash plugin?21:23
ign0ramusSmokeEater85911: in my experience, worse :/21:23
SmokeEater85911ew21:23
Zombocomkdm isnt' working  properly for me, I install and tell the kdm theme manager to use a theme, but I boot up to the same theme every time21:23
SmokeEater85911Im just a die hard FF user hah21:23
ign0ramusSmokeEater85911: me too.  some people say Opera works better, but i needs my addons!21:24
SmokeEater85911yeah i hear ya21:25
SmokeEater85911faster fox, greasemonkey, chatzilla21:25
SmokeEater85911like Im using chatzilla right now21:26
ign0ramusSmokeEater85911: yeah, the addons are the reason i won't use any other browser.  Opera actually is faster, but doesn't have everything that i am used to.21:26
SmokeEater85911man everything keeps crashing21:26
ign0ramusSmokeEater85911: you can see if you have better luck with Flash9 (which is the current 'stable' version)...21:27
Zombocomso anyone up to help me with my kdm problem?21:28
ign0ramuszombocom: are you installing system themes or splash themes?21:28
Zombocomkdm login screen themes21:29
Zombocomsplash works fine21:29
ign0ramuszombocom: do any themes come by default (as in more than one choice)?21:31
Zombocomign0ramus yes there is a kdm-theme manager package that allows you to choose one21:33
Zombocomand last install it worked21:33
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SmokeEater85911ugh..21:33
ign0ramuszombocom: for example, upon installing kdmtheme, i get "Circles" and two "Kubuntu O2" themes.  Have you tried changing to one of the defaults?21:34
Zombocomyeah lemme try that21:34
ign0ramusZombocom: remember, the theme must be a "kdmtheme" for it to work properly21:34
Zombocomign0ramus it is a kdmtheme21:34
ign0ramusok, just checking ;)21:34
Zombocomhttp://www.kde-look.org21:34
Zombocomclick on kde 3.x themes21:35
ZombocomI can't enjoy any of those21:35
Zombocom:)21:35
SmokeEater85911hmm anything special i should know about with using an external HDD?21:35
Zombocombrb I'll just be afk because this is a screen session21:35
ign0ramuszombocom: but there's a whole section labeled "kdm themes"21:35
SmokeEater85911I click on the drive in dolphin, and it comes up with an error21:35
ign0ramusSmokeEater85911: what's the error?21:36
SmokeEater85911logfile indicates unclean shutdown failed to mount21:36
ign0ramusSmokeEater85911: what's on the drive? An actual OS, or just files?21:37
SmokeEater85911just files21:37
SmokeEater85911do I mount it?21:37
ign0ramusSmokeEater85911: yeah, you should be able to force-mount it21:38
ign0ramusis it NTFS or ext3 or other?21:38
SmokeEater85911nope it just pops up with that error21:38
SmokeEater85911NTFS21:38
SmokeEater85911the error is like a paragraph long lol21:38
ign0ramusdid you try * sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdaX * where "X" is your HDD?21:39
SmokeEater85911didnt know about that21:39
SmokeEater85911i dont know all these commands yet lol21:39
Zombocomign0ramus if you click the section called kdm themes a submenu will appear after the section loads where you can choose 3.x or 4.x21:40
SmokeEater85911$LogFile indicates unclean shutdown (0, 0) Failed to mount '/dev/sdb1': Operation not supported Mount is denied because NTFS is marked to be in use. Choose one action: Choice 1: If you have Windows then disconnect the external devices by clicking on the 'Safely Remove Hardware' icon in the Windows taskbar then shutdown Windows cleanly. Choice 2: If you don't have Windows then you can use the...21:40
Gladyis it good to instaalll firestarter?21:40
SmokeEater85911...'force' option for your own responsibility. For example type on the command line: mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1 /media/iBook -o force Or add the option to the relevant row in the /etc/fstab file: /dev/sdb1 /media/iBook ntfs-3g force 0 021:40
SmokeEater85911thats the error21:40
ign0ramus!pastebin | smokeeater8591121:40
ubottusmokeeater85911: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)21:40
ign0ramusSmokeEater85911: did you try the suggestion? --> * mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1 /media/iBook -o force *?21:41
ign0ramusthat's what i meant by a force-mount21:41
Zombocomargggg... it desplays the same stuff whether I enable kdm themes or not21:41
SmokeEater85911one sec21:41
starenkahello, how can i run command on every system start?21:42
SmokeEater85911hmm21:43
ign0ramuszombocom: are you accessing the theme manager via "System Settings" or "KControl"?21:43
SmokeEater85911it told me im using the argument mount wrong21:43
Zombocomign0ramus yes System Settings21:44
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ign0ramuszombocom: Alt+F2, type 'KControl' and try it from there.  System Settings is buggy with this package.21:44
ign0ramusSmokeEater85911: specifically, what arguments were invalid?  Pastebin if output is long.21:45
Zombocomlowercase K and C btw ign0ramus21:45
ign0ramusZombocom: it actually makes no difference in Run dialogue...21:45
SmokeEater85911it says only root can do that21:46
ign0ramusSmokeEater85911: oh, use "sudo" first21:46
ign0ramus... " sudo mount... " etc21:46
starenkahello, how can i run command on every system start?21:47
Zombocomign0ramus run dialogue is caps insensitive?21:47
ign0ramusstarenka: i believe by placing a batch file in autostart?21:47
ign0ramusZombocom: yup21:48
Zombocomexcept they're not called batch files in linux21:48
Zombocomthey're called scripts21:48
SmokeEater85911 rob@Andromeda:~$ sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1/media/iBook -o force Usage: mount -V                 : print version        mount -h                 : print this help        mount                    : list mounted filesystems        mount -l                 : idem, including volume labels So far the informational part. Next the mounting. The command is `mount [-t fstype] something...21:48
SmokeEater85911...somewhere'. Details found in /etc/fstab may be omitted.        mount -a [-t|-O] ...     : mount all stuff from /etc/fstab        mount device             : mount device at the known place        mount directory          : mount known device here        mount -t type dev dir    : ordinary mount command Note that one does not really mount a device, one mounts a filesystem (of the given...21:48
SmokeEater85911...type) found on the device. One can also mount an already visible directory tree elsewhere:        mount --bind olddir newdir or move a subtree:        mount --move olddir newdir One can change the type of mount containing the directory dir:        mount --make-shared dir        mount --make-slave dir        mount --make-private dir        mount --make-unbindable dir One can change the...21:48
SmokeEater85911...type of all the mounts in a mount subtree containing the directory dir:        mount --make-rshared dir        mount --make-rslave dir        mount --make-rprivate dir        mount --make-runbindable dir A device can be given by name, say /dev/hda1 or /dev/cdrom, or by label, using  -L label  or by uuid, using  -U uuid . Other options: [-nfFrsvw] [-o options] [-p passwdfd]. For many more...21:48
Zombocom!pastebin SmokeEater8591121:48
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)21:48
starenkaign0ramus: yep, but i want to start it not depending on user21:48
SmokeEater85911...details, say  man 8 mount .21:48
Zombocom!pastebin | SmokeEater8591121:48
SmokeEater85911ah.. what the hell21:48
ubottuSmokeEater85911: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)21:48
SmokeEater85911lol I used pastebin21:48
ZombocomSmokeEater85911 then why did you spam that in here?21:48
SmokeEater85911guess I dont know how to use it21:48
SmokeEater85911sorry lol21:48
Zombocomlol21:48
Gladyso21:48
Zombocomyou submit the information into a pastebin21:49
starenkaSmokeEater85911: pastebin.com21:49
ign0ramus*facepalm* lol21:49
Zombocomyou hit enter or save or whatever21:49
Gladywhat about rkhunter and guarddog and all that?21:49
Zombocomand then you paste us the link it sends you21:49
Zombocomnot the information you sent it21:49
ign0ramusglady: what about all that?21:49
Gladyyes21:49
ign0ramusGlady: that's what i'm asking.21:49
Gladyin ubuntu do we have to install that?21:49
ign0ramusGlady:  No.21:49
Gladyrkhunter21:49
SmokeEater85911http://paste.ubuntu.com/38309/plain/21:49
Gladyok21:49
Gladyso21:49
Zombocomign0ramus it didn't work21:49
ign0ramusGlady: you already have a Firewall.21:50
Gladyi installed firestarter21:50
Gladyi will remove it21:50
ign0ramuszombocom: hmm... I don't know why that is...21:50
Zombocomign0ramus what they don't tell you is the firewall has everything set to open by default21:50
ign0ramusZombocom: i'm pretty sure that's backwards21:50
Zombocomno21:50
Zombocomnotice you can run any server or any program without the port being blocked?21:51
Zombocomthat's because ifconfig allows everything21:51
Gladywhat is fun with ubuntu is that u can install and remove all the time21:51
SmokeEater85911one sec21:51
ign0ramusZombocom: but the ports aren't "open" until theres something listening21:52
Zombocomthe port's aren't really open unless a program is bound to that port, but it doesn't stop any program from doing such21:52
ign0ramusZombocom: right.21:52
Zombocomyeah well you can configure ifconfig to only allow specific ports21:52
ZombocomGlady I like rkhunter, keep it21:52
SmokeEater85911k i forced mounted it21:52
ZombocomI'm a bit of a paranoid21:52
SmokeEater85911got another error21:52
Gladyok21:52
SmokeEater85911http://paste.ubuntu.com/38312/plain/21:53
ign0ramusGlady: Guarddog is a front-end for iptables, which is your firewall.  You can easily config through a GUI, but it's not necessary21:53
Gladyok21:53
ign0ramusSmokeEater85911: despite the error, are you able to see into the HDD now?21:54
SmokeEater85911yup21:54
ign0ramus:)21:54
ZombocomGlady if you're still paranoid and think you need a virusscan look up clam on the repository21:54
SmokeEater85911so just ignore the error lol21:54
SmokeEater85911thanks21:54
Zombocomlol21:54
Zombocomhold on21:54
ign0ramusyeah, i've had that happen before.  it's says it failed but it works anyway *shrugs*21:54
ign0ramuswelcome.21:54
Zombocom=oh21:55
ZombocomOH21:55
ign0ramusoh?21:55
SmokeEater85911now to get my other speakers working21:55
ZombocomI know what the error that you got SmokeEater8591121:55
Gladyno I don,t want to have too much stuff for nothing21:55
Zombocomlol21:55
Zombocomit returned the error21:55
Gladyand what is xubuntu?21:55
Zombocombecause there was no directory /media/iBook when you mounted21:56
ign0ramus!xubuntu | glady21:56
ubottuglady: Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels21:56
ZombocomSmokeEater85911 are you there?21:56
SmokeEater85911yeah sorry21:56
SmokeEater85911i was trying to get my sound working21:56
Gladyis it better?21:56
ZombocomGlady it's a matter of preference21:56
starenkaHello, plzplzpl how to run commands on system start regardless on user logged in?21:56
Gladyu are still on ur sound smoke?21:56
ign0ramusglady: Xubuntu is better for older, slower hardware.  It runs faster than GNOME or KDE, but with different levels of functionality21:57
ign0ramusGlady: just read --> http://www.xubuntu.org/21:57
Zombocomstarenka an autorun script21:57
MetaMorfoziSHi all21:57
SmokeEater85911k 4 of my speakers work, how do I get the sub working21:57
MetaMorfoziScan anybody help me in a little bash thing?21:57
starenkaZombocom: you mean ~/.kde/autorun? this is not regardless on user..21:58
MetaMorfoziSI wan't to read kicker's config's one line21:58
MetaMorfoziSmodify it, then rewrite.21:58
Zombocomstarenka no21:58
MetaMorfoziSAny body can help me in this?21:58
ZombocomI mean like when you have an ircd running21:58
Zombocomlet me find the directory and get back to you21:58
ZombocomI think it's /etc/ something21:58
ZombocomI'll look at the tor daemon21:58
SmokeEater85911zombocom do you know how to get my sub working?21:59
starenkaZombocom: no stands for what? :))21:59
ign0ramusSmokeEater85911: what system of speakers are you setting up?21:59
SmokeEater85911its the ones built into my laptop22:00
Zombocomsorry starenka22:00
Zombocomit's a bad habit22:00
ign0ramusSmokeEater85911: what sound card?22:00
ZombocomI tell people no even if I'm agreeing with them22:00
SmokeEater85911lol22:00
SmokeEater85911um one sec22:00
starenkaZombocom: good practice :))22:00
ign0ramusZombocom: i know a lot of girls like that. ;)22:00
SmokeEater85911Realtek ALC26822:01
ign0ramusSmokeEater85911: what laptop (brand/model)?22:01
SmokeEater85911Toshiba Satellite x205-s980022:02
SmokeEater85911and where did my title bar go on all my windows? lol22:02
SmokeEater85911i just noticed it was gone22:03
ign0ramusSmokeEater85911: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Gutsy_Intel_HD_Audio_Controller  Should work for Hardy as well22:04
ign0ramusSmokeEater85911: look for your model22:04
Gladyhow come people are so nice here?22:04
mila:-)22:04
SmokeEater85911hmm22:05
Gladyhmm?22:05
ign0ramusGlady: people usually give what they get.22:06
SmokeEater85911it only says my model at the top22:06
SmokeEater85911its not the exact model but its similar and i think has the same card in it as mine does22:06
ign0ramusSmokeEater85911: yeah, and I just read that another Satellite model doesn't have subwoofer capabilities... Let me keep looking22:08
ign0ramusSmokeEater85911: see if this is relevant: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4573580&postcount=1022:10
SmokeEater85911ive been here, the link is broken, so I went to where it told me to go22:12
ign0ramusSmokeEater85911: can you pastebin your alsa modprobe?  * sudo kate /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base *22:12
SmokeEater85911yeah, under supported it doesnt even say it fixes the sub22:13
SmokeEater85911lemme paste that thing22:13
SmokeEater85911!pastebin22:15
ubottupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)22:15
SmokeEater85911http://paste.ubuntu.com/38318/plain/22:15
Nylehey there22:15
NyleI have severe problem with my kubuntu22:16
Nyle8.04 hardy22:16
NyleI try to login from kdm, and it goes like blank like its going to load the kde, but then it goes back to kdm22:16
NyleI tried to create a fresh new user, and tried to login through there, no dice22:16
ign0ramusSmokeEater85911: the only thing I can recommend is to add this line to the end * options snd-hda-intel model=toshiba * and reboot22:16
Nylewhat could be the problem22:16
SmokeEater85911whats that do22:17
SmokeEater85911so paste *sudo kate /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base options snd-hda-intel model=toshiba* ?22:18
SmokeEater85911oh you mean at the end of that thing I pasted?22:18
ign0ramusSmokeEater85911: paste that at the end of your /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base file22:18
SmokeEater85911then hit save?22:19
ign0ramusSmokeEater85911: then you'll modprobing for the Realtek ALC26822:19
Nyleanyone?22:19
Gladywhen I open a shell am I in grub?22:19
SmokeEater85911k so now reboot?22:19
ign0ramusSmokeEater85911: yeah, save it and reboot.  hopefully your speakers will all work.  *crosses fingers822:19
Gladyhow can he have so many speakers in a laptop?22:20
ign0ramusGlady: No.  Are you trying to edit your grub file?22:20
Gladyno22:20
Gladyjust curious22:20
SmokeEater85911k I have to run into town, ill be back on thanks!22:20
ign0ramusGlady: No, terminal emulator is not the same thing as GRUB22:20
Gladywhen i m in a shell22:20
Gladywait22:20
Gladysmoke22:20
GladyI have something to ask22:21
SmokeEater85911yeah?22:21
Gladywhat u said about ubiquity22:21
GladyI lost the link22:21
SmokeEater85911about what?22:21
Gladywhat is it for?22:21
Gladyfor my new hd22:21
ign0ramusubiquity is what installs kubuntu off a livecd22:21
SmokeEater85911I didnt say anything about it22:21
SmokeEater85911somebody else mus have22:22
Zombocom!ubiquity22:22
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about ubiquity22:22
Gladyu talked about ubiquity explanation on youtube22:22
SmokeEater85911oh22:22
Gladyfor partitions and format22:22
SmokeEater85911yeah just look on youtube how to install it22:22
SmokeEater85911there are video tutorials22:22
Zombocomstarenka you still there?22:22
Gladyinstall ubiquity?22:22
SmokeEater85911how to install it on another partitionyes22:22
ZombocomI think it's /etc/intit.d22:22
Gladyoh22:22
Gladysorry22:22
starenkaZombocom: yes, mum22:22
SmokeEater85911brb22:22
Gladyit was alex maybe22:22
SmokeEater85911yeah alex will know22:22
Zombocomstarenka /etc/init.d22:22
SmokeEater85911he helped me install it all22:22
ZombocomI think that's it22:22
ign0ramuszombocom: that's where all services can be started or stopped22:22
starenkaZombocom: yes, already googled it out22:22
Zombocomsee22:23
ZombocomI'm useless22:23
ign0ramusZombocom: :P'22:23
Gladyok22:23
starenkaZombocom: hehe. no thanx for concern, m822:23
Gladyit is cuz I lost some links he gave me22:23
Zombocomlol22:23
Zombocomstarenka googling it out is a good policy22:23
starenkaZombocom: yes, if you know HOW TO ASK22:23
Zombocomyeah22:24
Zombocomsorreh22:24
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ign0ramusstarenka: true, cause google doesn't know what "that little thingy on the corner of my screen" is!22:24
ign0ramussomeone here might, though.22:24
starenkaso tru22:24
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Gladyok22:25
Gladyanyway22:25
Gladyneed rest22:25
Gladyciao22:25
ign0ramusstarenka: out of curiosity, what are you running at startup?22:25
ign0ramusglady: goodbye!!22:25
Gladybye22:26
starenkaign0ramus: it's a couple of mount --binds im using because i can't get proftpd resolve symlinks22:26
ign0ramusstarenka: that's strange.  I'm sure you checked the symlinks... wonder if it's a bug in proftpd22:27
ign0ramusstarenka: could it be a simple permissions issue?22:27
starenkano the symlinks work within the system, but they do not if you log in via ftp22:28
ign0ramusstarenka: i see.  makes sense that way.22:28
starenkaign0ramus: i thought it is because user ftp doesn have permissions to acces those dirs,  but it is... so i used mount --bind, which i have to run on every system start... maybe is there a way how to stick it within fstab, but i don't know how22:29
ign0ramusstarenka: that's what i had meant, but i don't use ftp enough to know the ins and outs22:30
ign0ramusstarenka: have you tried any other clients that may support this?22:30
SmokeEater85911no dice on the sub woofer after reboot22:31
starenkaign0ramus: nope, i used only krusader and opera, but i need to have it operational for wide user base, so i guess any other client wont help this time22:31
john_Anyone know about mounting memory as a fast, volatile mountpoint?22:31
ign0ramusSmokeEater85911: :(22:32
ign0ramusstarenka: got it.22:32
SmokeEater85911*cries*22:33
ign0ramusSmokeEater85911: keep your eyes open, i'm sure it will be resolved sometime soon.22:33
SmokeEater85911its so annoying22:33
starenkaign0ramus: btw i don't think this is client issue, the server just sends dirs on LIST or whatever req, what's behind shouldn't matter imho.. f.e if you browse a webpage you dont care if it is served by apache or lighthttpd22:34
SmokeEater85911if I want to listen to music i have to switch over to windows heh22:34
SmokeEater85911so no sub woofer support.. no flash support..22:34
SmokeEater85911*lame*22:34
SmokeEater85911remind me again why so many people like linux?22:34
SmokeEater85911lol22:34
ign0ramusSmokeEater85911: flash shouldn't be that terrible.  You can try reverting to Flash922:34
john_huh?  No flash support or sub woofer support?  I'm using both ...22:35
starenkaSmokeEater85911: maybe they know how to handle it? :)22:35
SmokeEater85911i cant get my sub in my laptop to work22:35
SmokeEater85911and pretty much any site with flash crashes firefox22:35
SmokeEater85911which locks up the system and I have to reboot22:35
john_how come/22:35
john_?22:35
john_which version of Firefox?22:36
ign0ramusSmokeEater85911: did you install the package in Adept and then install the tar.gz from the Adobe web site?  Because you should uninstall any Flash before installing the new package22:36
SmokeEater85911322:36
SmokeEater85911yeah, I didnt uninstall anything22:36
ign0ramusSmokeEater85911: i mean, did you install flashplugin-nonfree in Adept?22:36
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SmokeEater85911it should have just overwritten the old one though right?22:36
SmokeEater85911yeah22:36
SmokeEater85911and then went to the site and installed flash player 1022:37
ign0ramusSmokeEater85911: it *should* but it doesn't.22:37
john_type: dpkg-l | grep flash22:37
john_what do you get?22:37
john_dpkg -l22:37
SmokeEater85911 flashplugin-nonfree    9.0.124.0ubuntu222:38
unamanicstarenka: looks like an fstab entry will work for your issue22:38
ign0ramusjohn_: but he has also installed Flash10 RC from Adobe22:39
SmokeEater85911but when I type in FF, about:plugins it says flash 1022:39
SmokeEater85911Shockwave Flash 10.0.0 d56922:39
unamanicstarenas: This works for me: /home/unamanic /homebind  ext2 bind 0 022:40
SmokeEater85911anyway I gotta hit up the store Ill be back in a while22:40
ign0ramusSmokeEater85911: take it easy22:40
john_In Firefox, go to Tools>AddOns>Plugins and you should be able to disable version 10 from there.22:41
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starenkaunamanic: hope it will work with ntfs too22:43
starenkaanother story, is it somehow possible to run kdesudo via ssh?22:45
john_yes: enable X forwarding when establishing ssh connection22:46
starenkajohn_: i have this enabled22:46
john_and X forwarding doesn't work ?22:47
starenkajohn_: yes, but not kdesudo.. gksudo works :)22:47
starenkaX11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication.22:47
starenkakate: cannot connect to X server localhost:10.022:47
starenka(i swear the pass is ok)22:48
john_which option did you use for X forwarding?  If you used -Y, try -X22:49
starenkai have -X22:49
starenkato be precise -X -C (compress)22:50
john_did you get any error message about accessing ~/.Xauthority file when calling ssh?22:50
anom01yhmm anyone here know why sometimes when I reset my computer, kmix doesnt show all the mixer settings that it is supposed to ?22:50
starenkajohn_: no..22:50
draikHow do I install the latest virtualbox-ose-module ? Per apt-get, it's the latest\22:51
anom01yits a 50/50 chance I've noticed that it will load correctly or not load correctly22:52
john_starenka: The other option is to generate a key and copy the public key to the remote machine so you don't have to type in the password.22:53
starenkajohn_: thx22:54
john_Anyone know about mounting RAM space as a volatile filesystem/mountpoint?22:58
anom01ysee I just reset the computer, (third time), and now kmix is showing all the levels and inputs that it should. the last two times it didn't.23:00
anom01yan intermittant kmix23:01
starenkaunamanic: heh ad fstab.. i got problems mounting to dirs containing space. closing in ' or escaping space with \ does not work :(23:02
georgebstarenka: try this from man fstab: ...mount point contains spaces these can be escaped as ‘\040’.23:03
starenkageorgeb: rah. RTFM, starenka23:03
starenkageorgeb: thx23:04
georgebstarenka: no problem23:04
starenkageorgeb: ooo, how can i search within man pages, tho?23:04
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starenkageorgeb: regexp search as a bonus :))23:04
georgebstarenka: once you open the man page you need press / and type away23:05
georgebstarenka: like "/space<Enter>" :)23:05
starenkastarenka: oooo thx...23:05
georgebstarenka: I dunno how to search in all man pages, if this is what you need23:06
starenkageorgeb: nono, within single man...23:06
starenkaone more, ladies : mntent]: warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab23:07
starenkaand i did make the newline there23:07
georgebstarenka: btw, when using / to search you can jump to the next occurence by pressing n and previous occurence by pressing N (shift-n)23:07
john_I needed to make two newlines in mine I think23:07
starenkageorgeb: awsome... this makes my life soo easier :))23:07
starenkageorgeb: been trying the whole keyb (letters) - cuz i know q stands for quit, but i havent tried /23:08
starenka:))23:08
georgeb:)23:08
starenkajohn_: made 1,2,3 of them and still the same warning :(23:09
Walzmynin Kontact, how d'ya move an event from one calendar to another?23:09
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draikWho maintains the virtualbox kernels? Seems that I'm on 21-generic, but the virtualbox kernel only goes up to 20. Anyone have an idea on the release date?23:21
NyleI need to burn a dvd iso image from cli to a dvd burner23:27
Nylewhat tool should I use23:27
Deniseanyone knows how come i have problems with opera now?23:31
Deniseit was ok and now it is all crap23:31
forty-sevenanyone know how to get the old Konquest in kubuntu?23:40
ign0ramushey draik23:40
ubuntuHello everyone I have been using Ubuntu for about 6 months now.Im now looking into other buntu versions and other distros.Ubuntu was my first Linux distro experience and its been pretty cool.23:40
ign0ramusSun now owns and maintains VBox23:40
ubuntuNow Im trying Kubuntu.23:40
draikign0ramus: Hey there. How goes all23:40
ign0ramusgood good23:40
ign0ramusi had the same issue when i upgraded the kernel23:40
draikign0ramus: Oh. I guess I just have to wait for them to release 21-generic23:41
ign0ramusnah...23:41
ubuntuIm wondering if there is any distros or plans for any distros to make it easy to make offline app installs easy to do?23:41
ign0ramusJust download the latest deb and install, and it works on 21-generic23:41
ign0ramushttps://cds.sun.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/WFS/CDS-CDS_SMI-Site/en_US/-/USD/ViewProductDetail-Start?ProductRef=innotek-1.6-G-F@CDS-CDS_SMI23:41
ign0ramusI'm running it now on 21-generic23:41
ign0ramusdraik: you'll have to go through and re-accept the Sun agreement and all, but your VBox user settings will remain intact23:42
draikSweet23:43
ubuntuAny of you foldk have any experience making a custom Live CD of a linux distro?23:44
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ubuntufolks*23:44
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lgdmzalguien me dice como puedo ir al ubuntu en espnaol?23:47
ign0ramus!es | lgdmz23:47
ubottulgdmz: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.23:47
starenkajojojo23:48
ign0ramusdraik: you there man?23:48
starenkaanyone save my ass plz: how to switch locale (i already have the desired configured)23:49
draikign0ramus: Yeah. Sorry. Opera was taking a while to die23:49
ign0ramusdraik: try shooting it. strangling takes too long ;)23:49
ign0ramusstarenka: Kcontrol > Regional stuff > your preference23:50
draikI love my aliases23:50
starenkaign0ramus:  this does not work23:50
ign0ramusdraik: which are...?23:50
draikDie for sudo killall23:50
ign0ramusdraik: nice.  i've never made aliases.  what's the command?23:50
draikdg for 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade'23:51
ign0ramuswhy dg?23:51
draikupDate and upGrade23:51
ign0ramusmakes sense.23:51
draikIt did at the time :)23:51
starenkahow about alias share='python -c "import SimpleHTTPServer;SimpleHTTPServer.test()"'23:51
ign0ramushaha.  how do you create an alias for a specific command?23:51
draikThere is a 2-part process to creating an alias and keeping it permanent.23:52
starenkaign0ramus: echo 'alias = "what"' > ~/.bashrc23:52
starenkasorry23:52
starenka echo 'alias = "what"' >> ~/.bashrc23:52
draikpart 1)   alias dg='sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade'23:53
ign0ramusquotes included?23:53
starenkayep23:53
ign0ramusok23:53
draikPart 2) (do as starenka stated)23:54
draikThe thing is that you need part 123:54
draikIt doesn't matter in which order you do it23:54
draikI've tested part 1 then part 2 and vice-versa23:54
starenkathe 1st method is not permanent23:55
starenkait will last as long as your konsole23:55
ign0ramusgot it.  added it to bashrc.  so next login, my alias will be remembered?23:55
starenkajust write bash into terminal23:55
draikDid you do the first part?23:55
starenkaand it will work this instant23:55
ign0ramusyup23:56
forty-sevenI think I installed KDE423:56
forty-sevenbut how do I switch to it?23:56
ign0ramusyeah, i just tested it, and it works23:56
draikign0ramus: I can't install the deb23:56
ign0ramusdraik: why?23:56
ign0ramusdependencies?23:56
starenkadraik: you got some nifty aliases to share?23:58
AmiZyaexit23:58
AmiZyaOups , sorry :$23:58
ign0ramusamizya: slash - quit23:58
draikign0ramus: Don't know. I will PM you the error message23:58
draikMy aliases are cdmount, dg, die and dvdmount23:59
draikI had others, but didn't use them much so I took them out23:59

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