[00:00] <acke> mefisto__: it does contains som interesting log data.. thx. im of for bed. take care
[00:01] <mefisto__> SmokeEater85911: maybe try googling for your router + kubuntu + wifi ?
[00:01] <mcscruff> is there an alternative for banshee that can do video podcasts without dieing
[00:05] <SmokeEater85911> where are the network settings kept?
[00:05] <SmokeEater85911> (sry I just installed kubuntu)
[00:05] <mefisto__> mcscruff: apt-cache search video podcast
[00:06] <mefisto__> SmokeEater85911: Kmenu, System Settings, Network Settings
[00:07] <SmokeEater85911> ah there we go thanks
[00:07] <SmokeEater85911> i cant get this damn thing online to save my life
[00:13] <SmokeEater85911> bah im gonna give this thing a break then come back and bug you guys for more answers heh
[00:29] <dick-richardson> is there a remote-friendly utility that would allow me to browse the web and play locally stored media?
[00:32] <mefisto__> dick-richardson: what do you mean by "remote-friendly"?
[00:32] <dick-richardson> something like mythtv, but without the extra overhead (e.g. I don't have a tuner or optical drive)
[00:35] <mefisto__> dick-richardson: konqueror is a web browser and file browser, and can play most media files too. Is that what you mean?
[00:37] <dick-richardson> the only input device I'd use would be a remote control...could konqueror be controlled easily w/a remote?
[00:39] <mefisto__> dick-richardson: no idea, sorry
[00:39] <dick-richardson> np
[00:47] <SmokeEater85911_> k back again to try to solve this problem
[00:48] <SmokeEater85911_> anybody got a sec to help me with a WLAN issue?
[00:49] <B_Raven> Which part of the wlan setup is proving troublesome? the card/router/etc?
[00:49] <SmokeEater85911_> well i get all the way in there where I type in my WEP key, and it attempts to connect and then i get nothing
[00:49] <SmokeEater85911_> it says failure to connect
[00:50] <HighHo> !wifi | SmokeEater85911
[00:50] <HighHo> SmokeEater85911_: sounds like you might be using the wrong type enycription for the key maybe
[00:51] <SmokeEater85911_> hmm
[00:51] <SmokeEater85911_> it doesnt let me select the encryption type
[00:51] <chip> hi all . . . have a question about wubi. is there a problem with kubuntu download servers?
[00:51] <mot_> question
[00:52] <mot_> anybody know of any good linux printing utilities?
[00:52] <SmokeEater85911_> and it works with windows
[00:52] <mot_> i.e. i have 50 pictures that i want to print, and i want to print like 2-3 per page
[00:53] <SmokeEater85911_> i have it set to WEP 128 passphrase
[00:54] <SmokeEater85911_> any ideas?
[00:55] <Daisuke_Ido> SmokeEater85911: 10 digits?
[00:56] <chip> hi all . . . have a question about wubi. is there a problem with kubuntu download servers?
[00:58] <Kenwa> Hi
[00:59] <Kenwa> How come on a Kubuntu 8.04 KDE4 install, alot of applications are missing from the application launcher menu? One missing application being KMail. How do I edit the applicaton launcher menu?
[01:01] <SmokeEater85911_> sorry yeah its 10 digits
[01:02] <SmokeEater85911_> hmm
[01:02] <SmokeEater85911_> this is driving me nuts
[01:02] <HighHo> mot_: If anything can something like digikam seems most likely but im not sure.
[01:03] <HighHo> !digikam
[01:03] <mot_> thanks
[01:04] <mefisto__> mot: gwenview has a print wizard in the plugins menu, images, print wizard. you need to select the images first, then go to the print wizard
[01:07] <yaptop> is there an app that'll scan an ip range?
[01:07] <mefisto__> Kenwa: you can get to kmail by starting kontact (in the office submenu) and you can edit the menu with kmenuedit (right-click Kmenu)
[01:08] <SmokeEater85911_> so nobody has any idea?
[01:10] <poon> >:|
[01:10] <poon> whish i could help
[01:10] <poon> dont know much about it.
[01:10] <Denise> what is a wifi?
[01:10] <yaptop> is there an app that'll scan an ip range?
[01:10] <Denise> oh sorry
[01:11] <Denise> I know it in french
[01:12] <Daisuke_Ido> !repeat | yaptop
[01:12] <yaptop> ...
[01:12] <SmokeEater85911_> wifi.. wireless internet
[01:13] <SmokeEater85911_> i cant get my wireless internet to work
[01:13] <Denise> ok
[01:13] <Denise> sorry I m lil dumb
[01:13] <Daisuke_Ido> SmokeEater85911_: try 64 bit hex
[01:13] <Denise> I can<t help
[01:13] <Daisuke_Ido> i had the same issue on my laptop
[01:13] <SmokeEater85911_> where do I change the encryption type?
[01:15] <Daisuke_Ido> in the dropdown on the window where you enter your key (i'm going from network-manager, not entirely sure about knetworkmanager, so it might not be exact)
[01:16] <SmokeEater85911_> the 64bit hex is still the 10 character passphrase?
[01:17] <SmokeEater85911_> ill give it another shot.. brb gotta boot into knubuntu
[01:21] <reboot08> hi all
[01:22] <reboot08> whats the bash command to grb file from the internet ?
[01:23] <mefisto__> wget
[01:23] <reboot08> ty
[01:24] <reboot08> sudo-apt wget www.someplace.com filenam and extension?
[01:25] <Stab> apt-get
[01:25] <reboot08> apt-wget
[01:25] <reboot08> right?
[01:25] <Stab> apt-wget
[01:25] <Stab> what it does different?
[01:25] <reboot08> cool let me try suumin
[01:25] <mefisto__> reboot08: wget http://www.someplace.com/files/image.jpg
[01:26] <mefisto__> reboot08: "wget --help" or "man wget" for options and info
[01:27] <reboot08> awesome im trying to grab bx again
[01:27] <reboot08> i re-installed a clean full ubunto after a bad partition adventure hehe
[01:32] <Nyad> hi. every single help document on help.ubuntu.com states that in the console, control+u clears the current line, when it actually only clears what's before the text cursor
[01:34] <|thunder> hi all. i just switched to kde. how do I change my mouse settings ? cursor is too fast.
[01:35] <Nyad> click on kmenu in bottom left. then go to kontrol centre, then keyboard and mouse
[01:35] <yaptop__> what is vdso?
[01:35] <Nyad> then click on mouse and click on the advanced tab, change pointer acceleration
[01:36] <mefisto__> Nyad: ctrl-k clears what's in front of the cursor
[01:36] <|thunder> i dont see kontrol center. but i just found system settings, which is the same thing i think
[01:36] <|thunder> thanks
[01:38] <|thunder> i started compiz and now my desktop is gone. yikes.
[01:39] <|thunder> oh well. bbl
[01:49] <ASrock> does anyone have any links to good Windows XP themes for kubuntu?
[01:51] <Leon> hi
[01:51] <mefisto__> ASrock: try www.kdelook.org
[01:54] <Leon> ?
[02:00] <kenwa> How can i edit a text file i do not have write rights to?
[02:01] <bdizzle> why does anything above standard efffects of compiz cause the title bar to disappear?
[02:01] <bdizzle> kenwa, open the folder as root
[02:01] <bdizzle> or, go into command line, navigate to the folder, then enter sudo kate <filename>
[02:02] <nejode> kenwa: ALT+F2, and write kdesu konqueror or kdesu dolphin or kdesu kate /folder/file
[02:03] <kenwa> how can i open the folder as root?  Sudo Kate says command not found
[02:04] <bdizzle> hmm, is kate not installed on your computer?
[02:04] <Daisuke_Laptop> kenwa: because it's sudo kate, not Sudo Kate
[02:04] <Daisuke_Laptop> case sensitivity.
[02:04] <bdizzle> ah, okay
[02:04] <kenwa> kate works. sudo kate does not
[02:04] <Daisuke_Laptop> and nejode is right, always use kdesu for gui programs
[02:05] <Daisuke_Laptop> *for gui programs you need to run as root
[02:05] <Daisuke_Laptop> otherwise you can end up with some fun permissions problems
[02:05] <doop> has anyone reported a problem when the comp shuts off the monitor after so long?
[02:05] <doop> I just have a white screen
[02:06] <kenwa> Your saying i should use kdesu? How does that work?
[02:07] <bdizzle> kdesu is just the "sudo" in gui form
[02:07] <kenwa> is there a /? equiv.
[02:08] <kenwa> still get comand not found
[02:10] <kkathman> I am trying to write a CD using K3b but it keeps reporting "Unable to fixate disk" and "Cdrecord has no permission to open the device"  what's the best way to resolve this?
[02:10] <kkathman> The settings detect the drive and all its characterisitics tho
[02:11] <smarty> is there anyway to edit the boot list when the comp starts, something like the BOOT.INI file in Windows?
[02:12] <smarty> anyone?
[02:12] <nay_> hi yo!
[02:12] <oniomcrab> on Linux ?
[02:12] <nay_> ya. on Kubuntu
[02:12] <smarty> yea
[02:12] <kenwa> so how do i open a directory as root? because kdesu kate will not work?
[02:13] <smarty> kenwa: open the terminal there, and su root
[02:13] <nay_> hmm. su
[02:13] <karl> smarty: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:13] <nay_> Terminal -> su
[02:13] <karl> just be careful
[02:13] <smarty>  karl: thanks -- i'll try it
[02:15] <kenwa> su. nice. but i get authentication failure lol
[02:15] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. i thought by default su dident work with kubuntu/ubuntu
[02:15] <Dr_willis> sudo -s   for a root shell.
[02:17] <Hydrogen> sudo -i*
[02:17] <mefisto__> that's better, sudo -i
[02:18] <Dr_willis> depends. :) i got my .bashrc set up where i dont think it matters on my system
[02:18] <reboot08> AWAY reading up
[02:18] <Dr_willis> i just rember -s for 'shell' :)
[02:18] <mefisto__> if you're using konsole, you can get a root shell from the session menu too
[02:18] <Dr_willis> http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/05/09/a-root-shell-on-ubuntu-the-right-way/
[02:19] <kenwa> grr. Ok well sudo -s got me to the directory, and when i try using kate to open the file it say it is not installed. I try to install it, but the problem im trying to fix is with adept manager. There is a bad line in the source list
[02:19] <Dr_willis> I will confess... i normally use 'sux' :)
[02:19] <Dr_willis> !info sux
[02:20] <mefisto__> kenwa: you mean kate is not installed?
[02:20] <kenwa> it is, but i can't run it under root
[02:20] <Dr_willis> that url i posted has some neat tricks for using sudo properly :)
[02:20] <Dr_willis> kenwa,  could try some other editor I guess..
[02:20] <kenwa> Thanks
[02:21] <kenwa> what is command for OO?
[02:22] <mefisto__> kdesu kate should work. but "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list" should definitely work
[02:22] <Dr_willis> kenwa,  try oo<tab>
[02:23] <kenwa> kdesu kate does not. nano does.
[02:23] <kenwa> Any tips on using this. lol
[02:23] <Dr_willis> ^X means control-X :)
[02:24] <Dr_willis> ctrl-h for help I think... I hate nano
[02:24] <oniomcrab> VIM is the best
[02:24] <Dr_willis> there are much better 'simple' text editors out for the console.. perhaps some day they will replace nano
[02:25] <Dr_willis> mcedit is very handy
[02:25] <kenwa> Got it! Thanks!
[02:25] <Daisuke_Laptop> oniomcrab: while that's infinitely debatable and quite flamebaitish, i think it's safe to say that for a user NOT used to console text editors, vim is a pretty poor choice.
[02:25] <nejode> kenwa: if you open konqueror or dolphin or krusader with kdesu, you'll open them as root, from there you just click on the file to edit as root
[02:25] <kenwa> I need to get kate working for root now.
[02:25] <nejode> ... but be cereful!
[02:26] <jonnor> sudo kate /file/you/want/to/open
[02:26] <jonnor> ?
[02:26] <jonnor> in a terminal
[02:26] <mefisto__> kenwa: when you say kate doesn't work, does anything happen? error messages?
[02:26] <kenwa> hmm.. all of those say not installed as root
[02:26] <nejode> how about right clicking >actions> edit as root
[02:26] <kenwa> root@ken-laptop:~# krusader
[02:26] <kenwa> The program 'krusader' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[02:26] <Ash-Fox> !kde4
[02:27] <Ash-Fox> I think that help tip is outdated.
[02:27] <mefisto__> kenwa: are you logged in as root?
[02:27] <kenwa> im logged in as ken. In a reg terminal kate works, as well as dolphin, but if i open a terminal as root, they do not.
[02:29] <jonnor> dont open a terminal as root
[02:29] <kenwa> well i installed kate under root, and now it says cannot connect to X server when trying to run
[02:29] <nejode> kenwa, come on man, just press ALT+F2 and write down what I told you...don't go to a terminal-konsole
[02:29] <Daisuke_Laptop> nejode: oh, no, because terminals are BAD and should never be used
[02:29] <rasmus> I vould like to install GTK+. Why isn't there an easy way like apt-get install gtk+? I have a hard time finding all depences and stuff. Is there any easy way?
[02:30] <Ash-Fox> rasmus, there is a easy way.
[02:30] <Daisuke_Laptop> yeah, install any program that uses gtk_
[02:30] <Daisuke_Laptop> gtk+, that is
[02:30] <Ash-Fox> Or install libgtk2.0-0 for version 2 of GTK
[02:31] <kenwa> What did you tell me? im already all set. I used nano to edit the file. Im us trying to figure out why i cant do the other things you guys said should work
[02:31] <Ash-Fox> libgtk1.2 for 1.2
[02:31] <rasmus> so, sudo apt-get libgtk2.0-0 right?
[02:31] <Ash-Fox> rasmus, that will install version 2, yes.
[02:31] <rasmus> great!
[02:31] <jonnor> sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-0
[02:31] <jonnor> ;)
[02:31] <reboot08> yup
[02:31] <rasmus> Strange that it's not written at the homepage ;-)
[02:32] <nejode> Daisuke_Laptop: I always use terminal-konsole-yakuake... but kenwa is getting mixed up with the root konsole
[02:32] <jonnor> what homepage? it will be different in every distro
[02:32] <Ash-Fox> yakuake is wonderful.
[02:32] <Ash-Fox> !gtk
[02:33] <jonnor> !sudo
[02:33] <jonnor> fancy.
[02:33] <rasmus> oh, apparently i need GTK+2.12 what should i write then? Sorry, but i can't get it right on my own
[02:34] <kenwa> Thanks.
[02:34] <jonnor> you do know that there exists graphical interfaces to apt, so that you can browse packages ?
[02:35] <jonnor> what are you trying to install btw?
[02:35] <rasmus> yes, but i can't find it there
[02:36] <rasmus> I want to compile the new version of xpad (only the old one is availible with adept). So i need gtk 2.12
[02:37] <jonnor> sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-0
[02:37] <bdizzle> why does anything above standard efffects of compiz cause the title bar to disappear on my computer?
[02:38] <jonnor> probably because compiz is unable to replace kwin's decorator
[02:39] <rasmus> i've allready got libgtk2.0-0, i need gtk+ 2.12
[02:39] <jonnor> libgtk2.0-0 is 2.12.9 on my system :)
[02:39] <jonnor> probably on yours as well
[02:41] <contrast83> Greets, everyone...
[02:41] <contrast83> Anyone know of a good PCMCIA wireless card that works out of the box with *buntu?
[02:42] <nay_> buntu
[02:42] <nay_> dunno!
[02:42] <contrast83> nay_: *buntu=Ubuntu/Kubuntu/etc.
[02:42] <nejode> contrast83: Trend-net  ....atheros based
[02:43] <nay_> yes, i know. I mean i dunno  about the card. :-)
[02:45] <contrast83> nay_: oh ok... nejode: not finding any trend-nets on ebay. are you saying pretty much any atheros based cards should work though?
[02:45] <bdizzle> jonnor: is there a way to fix that?
[02:46] <nejode> at least all that I've tried... and out of the bos with gutsy and hardy
[02:46] <jonnor> youre going to have to google it
[02:46] <jonnor> if its a gommon problem it will be there
[02:46] <jonnor> 'common.
[02:47] <jonnor> if its not, then it could be hard fixing it im afraid
[02:47] <nay_> bb everyone !
[02:49] <contrast83> nejode: thanks for the tip. i'm off.
[02:49] <contrast83> peace, y'all.
[02:53] <s-n-g> Y a des francais ici
[02:53] <s-n-g> French speakers ?
[02:54] <s-n-g> So; Hello All :); I have a little probleme with amorok... I can't show song playing in Pidgin
[02:54] <s-n-g> The script is intall and activate but don't run
[03:01] <yaptop> what is that expose like program for kubuntu
[03:04] <ryan------> I have an issue with my USB mouse&audio: after the system has been up for a while, at least 3-4 hours, the USB (I noticed it first with mouse, wasn't using usb audio at the time) starts cutting in and out, it's like it cuts in for a second, then out for a second, audio is doing the same now
[03:09] <shadowhywind> hay all having abit of a problem. when i boot i am getting a udevd-event[####]: run programs: `/sbin/modprobe` abnormal exit
[03:10] <nejode> ryan-----: is it a Lenovo by any chance?
[03:10] <Stab> how can I know the version of my Bios?
[03:11] <ryan------> no, desktop, custom built
[03:11] <ryan------> works fine in windows
[03:12] <nejode> ryan----: I've had that same problem with Lenovo laptops, had to flash the BIOS
[03:12] <mefisto_> Stab: usually it's displayed before boot, one of the first things you see on screen
[03:13] <ryan------> ah
[03:14] <mefisto_> Stab: sudo lshw might tell you too. look in the motherboard section
[03:14] <Stab> ok
[03:14] <Stab> ty
[03:15] <Stab> it diesn,t work
[03:15] <Stab> doesnt
[03:16] <mefisto_> Stab: does sudo lshw show you what motherboard you have?
[03:16] <Stab> it says unknown command
[03:17] <mefisto_> Stab: sudo lshw
[03:18] <Stab> ok
[03:18] <Stab> I will print that
[03:19] <rasmus> so i've encountered a strange problem. According to Jonnor libgtk2.0-0 is containing GTK+ 2.12. How ever. I have libgtk2.0 installed (as far as i understand). But when i want to comfigurea a file it complains about lack of gtk+2.12
[03:20] <TheMaxzilla> Is there any way of changing the name of my computer?
[03:20] <mefisto_> rasmus: this will show you info about the package: apt-cache show libgtk2.0-0
[03:21] <TheMaxzilla> As in, the terminal. max@max-laptop:~$ , I want to change the Max-laptop part.
[03:21] <mefisto_> rasmus: mine says this: Version: 2.12.9-3ubuntu2
[03:21] <raimundo_> hey how can i know if my wireless is actually working
[03:22] <raimundo_> im not using it right now cause i dont have wi fi in my house
[03:22] <raimundo_> and i just bought this laptop and start using it with kubuntu
[03:22] <raimundo_> so i dont know if my wireless is it actually working
[03:23] <TheMaxzilla> raimundo_: sudo iwconfig, i think
[03:23] <Stab> can I upgrade it in root?
[03:23] <raimundo_> ty
[03:24] <rasmus> Mefisto (my hero ;-) so, why do you think i get this message when i configure xpad "libgtk2.0-0 is 2.12.9 on my system :)"
[03:24] <rasmus> sorry, that got a bit strange
[03:25] <mefisto_> TheMaxzilla: you want to change your hostname. you can just type: hostname whatever-you-want
[03:25] <mefisto_> TheMaxzilla: but to make it permanent (after reboots) you have to edit /etc/hostname
[03:27] <mefisto_> rasmus: what's the message you get?
[03:29] <Ashex> !amarok > me
[03:29] <Ashex> !cddb > me
[03:31] <Ashex> anyone have cddb lookup working in amarok?
[03:37] <mefisto_> Ashex: I think it's working
[03:37] <Ashex> blegh
[03:37] <Ashex> it's not working for me
[03:38] <mefisto_> does amarok open audio cds?
[03:38] <rasmus> mefisto, "checking for GTK+ - version >= 2.12.0... no *** Could not run GTK+ test program, checking why...*** The test program failed to compile or link. See the file config.log for the*** exact error that occured. This usually means GTK+ is incorrectly installed.configure: error:  *** GTK+ 2.12 is required to build Xpad; please make sure you have the GTK+  *** development headers installed. The latest version of GTK+
[03:38] <rasmus> is  *** always available at http://gtk.org/."
[03:38] <SmokeEater85911> hey Alex, i got the wlan to work
[03:38] <Ashex> mefisto_, yes
[03:38] <Ashex> amarok spits this out in terminal when i load the cd:
[03:38] <Ashex> amarok: ERROR: : couldn't create slave : Unable to create io-slave:
[03:38] <Ashex> klauncher said: Unknown protocol 'cdda'.
[03:39] <SmokeEater85911> Alex135: It was just on the wrong setting =X
[03:40] <Alex135> sweet!
[03:40] <mefisto_> SmokeEater85911: what did you do to get it working?
[03:40] <Alex135> great job :)
[03:40] <SmokeEater85911> it was just a different encryption
[03:40] <Alex135> hehe
[03:41] <Alex135> forgot to change it to wep?
[03:41] <SmokeEater85911> now Im trying to figure out all the crazy "Linuxness"
[03:41] <SmokeEater85911> not it needed to be hex
[03:41] <Alex135> its not crazy. i have used it for 4 years.... its not crazy ;)
[03:41] <SmokeEater85911> like trying to install firefox was fun...
[03:41] <SmokeEater85911> its not like windows and doesnt have "install.exe" that installs it all and boom done
[03:41] <SmokeEater85911> i clicked on a bunch of files and one of them finally opened the install hah
[03:42] <Alex135> hehe
[03:42] <mefisto_> SmokeEater85911: it's easy to type sudo apt-get install firefox
[03:42] <SmokeEater85911> I looked up online how to install it, and it wanted me to type a bunch of craziness in the command :X
[03:42] <SmokeEater85911> yeah.. i dont know what ANY of those commands do haha
[03:42] <SmokeEater85911> I need basic linux for dummies
[03:43] <Alex135> smokeeaters85911: i have that book :P
[03:43] <SmokeEater85911> haha I need it!
[03:43] <Alex135> smokeeaters85911: complete desktop reference
[03:43] <Alex135> smokeeaters85911: 5 books in 1
[03:43] <Alex135> smokeeaters85911: huge thing
[03:43] <SmokeEater85911> like as far as i know sudo means fake (pseudo) lol
[03:43] <ryan------> su = super user
[03:43] <ryan------> do = the action, do
[03:43] <ryan------> super user do (command) sudo
[03:44] <SmokeEater85911> *confused* haha
[03:44] <ryan------> lol
[03:44] <ryan------> all good
[03:44] <SmokeEater85911> I'll get the hang of it eventually
[03:44] <Alex135> smokeeaters85911: its easy to understand after a bit
[03:44] <SmokeEater85911> Im trying to avoid windows as much as possible, and learn a new OS for the first time
[03:44] <Alex135> smokeeaters85911: after you screw up linux 5 or 6 times you will figure out what to and not to do :P
[03:44] <SmokeEater85911> Im still trying to figure out once it installs Firefox, WHERE it installs it to
[03:45] <Alex135> dont bother with that
[03:45] <rasmus> mefisto: did you see my answer?
[03:45] <mefisto_> SmokeEater85911: http://monkeyblog.org/ubuntu/installing/#installing_with_terminal
[03:45] <SmokeEater85911> the equivalent to C:\Program Files\FireFox
[03:45] <Alex135> its not as important to know as some other things
[03:45] <Alex135> there is no equivalent to program files
[03:45] <Alex135> its sorta complicated
[03:45] <B_Raven> Actually, once you learn a bit about the system the linux way is a lot faster, and easier. At least in my experience. The first few months can be a bit intimidating, but would be intimidating when switching from any OS to any other OS.
[03:46] <SmokeEater85911> whats faster than windows key + E and click on C:/ and go from there lol
[03:46] <SmokeEater85911> but yeah Im trying to find a good website designed for idiots like me who wanna learn Linux
[03:46] <B_Raven> If you insist on the command line "firefox" then hit enter. :-P
[03:47] <Alex135> its not hard... trust me... im only 15 and i had it down in less then 4 years... if this kid can do it so can anyone else
[03:47] <mefisto_> SmokeEater85911: or try katapult for starting programs
[03:47] <B_Raven> And to add applications all you need to do is open up adept (AKA: "Add/Remove Programs" in the kmenu) and search for what you want.
[03:48] <SmokeEater85911> I almost dont like how similar to windows nubuntu is
[03:48] <SmokeEater85911> It looks pretty familiar to Vista
[03:48] <Alex135> oh trust me, it is not similer in any way
[03:48] <Alex135> thats what kde4 is ment to be
[03:48] <Alex135> i should have made sure you were on kde3
[03:48] <SmokeEater85911> you guys like Kubuntu more than Ubuntu?
[03:48] <Alex135> you would have had an easier time
[03:49] <B_Raven> Can be deceptive on the surface in some ways.
[03:49] <SmokeEater85911> yea?
[03:49] <Alex135> Smokeeater85911: kde4 is harder to learn then kde3
[03:49] <Alex135> Smokeeater85911: also that version is still in development
[03:49] <SmokeEater85911> roger, well its a steep learning curve but once you learn something hard, everything is easier
[03:49] <B_Raven> Gnome seems to dumb things down a little more than I like, so been a KDE user since I first started using linux almost a decade ago.
[03:50] <SmokeEater85911> i do like how most of my little buttons on the side of my laptop automatically work and i dont need to install drivers
[03:50] <concernedcitizen> where can I get cool linux swag to paste on my thinkpad?
[03:50] <Alex135> i just wanted one that was similer to windows so i could find my way around... i came across kde and i was saved
[03:50] <Alex135> actually... i started with kde
[03:50] <Alex135> i started with Fedora core 4
[03:50] <Alex135> after 7 i switched to ubuntu
[03:51] <Alex135> and installed KDE
[03:51] <Alex135> i have had it that way ever since
[03:51] <Alex135> i actually switched last christmass
[03:51] <SmokeEater85911> concernedcitizen: they have "powered by ubuntu" stickers
[03:51] <B_Raven> concernedcitizen, most linux stores have some shinies that'd work.
[03:51] <SmokeEater85911> are you on KDE3 or 4?
[03:51] <concernedcitizen> ain't no linux stores where I'm at.
[03:51] <Alex135> im in kde3
[03:51] <Alex135> i personally like it better
[03:51] <Alex135> i can find things better
[03:52] <B_Raven> concernedcitizen, online linux stores in your country?
[03:52] <Stab> how come I m not able to open katapult?
[03:52] <SmokeEater85911> concernedcitizen: its online
[03:52] <concernedcitizen> wait a second, online linux stores like?
[03:52] <SmokeEater85911> maybe i should downgrade to KDE3?
[03:53] <mefisto_> Stab: have you installed katapult?  I don't think it's installed by default
[03:53] <Alex135> considering how new your install is... i would just reinstall useing a diff cd
[03:53] <Stab> I did
[03:53] <SmokeEater85911> a cd with KDE3 rather than 4?
[03:53] <Stab> but when i click on it I have option to configuration
[03:53] <Alex135> yes
[03:53] <Stab> but not to open session
[03:53] <mefisto_> Stab: alt-F2, then type katapult
[03:54] <Alex135> SmokeEater85911: ill find the link
[03:54] <SmokeEater85911> well I plan to fix this partition problem anyway, so I have to format it anyway
[03:54] <B_Raven> concernedcitizen, only been to one, and it's in norway. Have seen some case badges on some hardware mod stores here and there.
[03:54] <Stab> k
[03:54] <Alex135> SmokeEater85911: http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download
[03:55] <Alex135> dont have it do the kde4 remix
[03:55] <SmokeEater85911> the top one that says supported until October?
[03:55] <Alex135> the rest you are the only person that can figure it out... cuz i dont know what your machine specs are
[03:55] <Alex135> yes
[03:55] <Alex135> october next year
[03:55] <SmokeEater85911> I still need to fix this partition problem before I take linux any farther
[03:55] <SmokeEater85911> stupid windows POS
[03:55] <Alex135> dont worry, you will have to reinstall a few times from screwing up your system before then
[03:55] <Stab> is there a max hd capacity that i can install on a pentium 1V?
[03:56] <SmokeEater85911> maybe somebody in here can help with my partition problem
[03:56] <Alex135> SmokeEater, best solution... reformat and install windows takeing up 1/2 the space
[03:56] <mefisto_> what about qtparted?
[03:57] <Stab> how u can do that
[03:57] <SmokeEater85911> I have a 250gb HDD, 190GB free, and it wont let me make a partition larger than 20GB.. I want to make about 80-100GB partition
[03:57] <SmokeEater85911> I need to avoid formatting windows at all costs
[03:58] <SmokeEater85911> any ideas on that one?
[03:58] <Alex135> i hate messing with partitions personally.... the ubuntu intall cd can resize the windows partition without loosing your data to a degree easily
[03:58] <mefisto_> SmokeEater85911: the easy and safe way is to buy a new hard disk exclusively for kubuntu
[03:58] <Alex135> ah yes mefisto__ is right
[03:58] <mefisto_> they are so cheap these days
[03:58] <Alex135> you can also boot across hdd's easier aswell... (thats how i have it setup)
[03:58] <Stab> a new hd and u don,t need to reformat windows?
[03:59] <SmokeEater85911> yeah Id have to wait and I dunno if my laptop has another slot for a 2nd HDD
[03:59] <Alex135> oh laptop, forgot about that
[03:59] <Alex135> bad idea
[03:59] <mefisto_> Stab: leave the windows disk alone, and install kubuntu on the new disk. easy
[03:59] <SmokeEater85911> granted one version of my laptop has 2 HDDs, Id have to take it apart and look if there is another slot
[03:59] <Stab> ok
[03:59] <Alex135> SmokeEater, what you can do is just take out the windows one and put in the linux one when you use linux
[03:59] <SmokeEater85911> then just get a cheap low storage HDD on ebay
[04:00] <Stab> someone told me i had to reformat both disks
[04:00] <Alex135> its a messed up way, but thats what i did with the windows vista hdd for my laptop, i kept it in 1 piece just to keep from voiding the warenty :D
[04:00] <SmokeEater85911> i have a spare laptop HDD lying around here somewhere I think its 80gb..
[04:00] <SmokeEater85911> but its IDE and i think this uses ATA
[04:00] <Stab> and what is the largest hd I can install?
[04:00] <Alex135> Sata
[04:01] <Alex135> stab: depends on the laptop
[04:01] <Stab> I m a pc
[04:01] <Alex135> stab: depends on the file system :P
[04:01] <reboot08> sup
[04:01] <Stab> what u nean?
[04:01] <Rob> damn
[04:01] <Stab> mean
[04:01] <B_Raven> SmokeEater85911, IDE, ATA, and PATA are different names for the same kind of disk.
[04:01] <Alex135> stab: well... 1 sec ....
[04:02] <SmokeEater85911> i dunno.. I dont really have the money for another HDD right at the moment.. Id have to wait a while
[04:02] <Alex135> stab: some file systems can hold up to 8 exabytes see the table on this page... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byte
[04:02] <SmokeEater85911> I guess while I wait it gives me time to test different versions of Linux on my 20GB heh
[04:02] <Stab> k
[04:02] <Alex135> stab: hdd's that size dont exist
[04:03] <Stab> ur kidding me
[04:03] <Alex135> not kidding
[04:03] <Alex135> im not kidding at all
[04:03] <Stab> but with a pentium Iv
[04:03] <Alex135> doesn't really matter
[04:03] <Stab> cani install kinda 500GB?
[04:03] <mefisto_> SmokeEater85911: I'm running on a 20gb disk. I can't run vm stuff, but there's still room to install things I don't really need
[04:03] <Alex135> i thikn you can
[04:03] <Alex135> think*
[04:03] <mefisto_> Stab: definitely
[04:04] <Stab> ur link is screem
[04:04] <SmokeEater85911> *sigh*
[04:04] <Alex135> :D
[04:04] <Stab> and a 750GB?
[04:04] <SmokeEater85911> hmm how slow would it be to run linux off an external?
[04:04] <Alex135> i wouldn't go higher then 500gb just because its a waste when the drive dies
[04:04] <Alex135> i would probably buy multiple 500gb
[04:04] <Alex135> if needed
[04:05] <Alex135> currently however i only have 1 320gb hdd :(
[04:05] <Stab> but i had a deal for 750gb
[04:05] <Stab> same as 500
[04:05] <reboot08> noob here how do i see what is in scr-bx ?
[04:05] <SmokeEater85911> Alex: my external is a 500 but even being firewire id imagine it would be slow as hell
[04:05] <mefisto_> yeah it's crazy, the larger they are, the cheaper they get
[04:05] <Alex135> then i would go for the 750 just for the heck of it
[04:05] <Stab> k
[04:06] <Alex135> smoke, i wouldn't do it anyway.... externals are a pain
[04:06] <Stab> what I m doing with the link u sent me
[04:06] <Stab> it is Screem screen
[04:06] <SmokeEater85911> so my best bet is to cough up some cheddar for another HDD..
[04:06] <Alex135> the yottabyte reminds me of starwars :P
[04:06] <Alex135> master yotta :P
[04:06] <Alex135> smoke, yes
[04:07] <SmokeEater85911> how do I set my default internet browser on here?
[04:07] <rasmus> Mefisto, do still have the time to help me? And did you see my answer?
[04:07] <SmokeEater85911> i have Konquerer and Firefox
[04:07] <Alex135> firefox is already installed i think
[04:07] <Alex135> by default kde uses knoqueror for most things and you cant alwase change that, but i still use firefox
[04:07] <SmokeEater85911> *lame*
[04:07] <Alex135> im just saying i dont know how to change
[04:07] <Alex135> it is possible though
[04:08] <Alex135> i just dont feel like looking stupid to ask the question :P
[04:08] <Alex135> its already setup the way i like it anyway
[04:08] <mefisto_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext3#Size_limits
[04:08] <reboot08> there r no stupid questions only stupid people"Mr Garrison"
[04:08] <SmokeEater85911> well ill mess with some stuff on here, then hop back on windows, download the kde3 pack and try again..
[04:09] <mefisto_> rasmus: sorry what was your question?
[04:09] <reboot08> any help with how to use scripts with Bx?
[04:09] <Alex135> goodluck smoke
[04:10] <Alex135> Stab: let me find the file system that can hold that much
[04:10] <Stab> u mean screem
[04:10] <mefisto_> rasmus: was it the gtk thing?
[04:10] <Stab> it is ok
[04:10] <Stab> I got it
[04:11] <Alex135> Stab: i find it crazy though
[04:11] <Alex135> Stab: it blows my mind
[04:11] <Stab> what?
[04:11] <Alex135> Stab: Pettabyte is the limit that i can comprehend
[04:11] <Alex135> out of that just seems impracticle
[04:12] <Stab> tera for me
[04:12] <Alex135> but a yottabyte?
[04:12] <Alex135> i mean... all i can think of is starwars!
[04:12] <Alex135> and master... yotta :P
[04:12] <B_Raven> I work with 200-500MB image files for a living, have no issue comprehending really large sizes.
[04:13] <SmokeEater85911> i lied, Ill stay in here to ask dumb questions as I find things lol
[04:13] <reboot08> wb
[04:13] <SmokeEater85911> like what is ark
[04:13] <Alex135> ark is what noah put the animals on... next question :P
[04:13] <Alex135> (joke)
[04:13] <B_Raven> SmokeEater85911, Archive manager. (zip files and so on)
[04:14] <SmokeEater85911> ah, basically winzip
[04:14] <B_Raven> SmokeEater85911, Is a frontend, so depends on which apps you have installed in addition, like rar/unrar.
[04:14] <Alex135> ya, something like that
[04:14] <Alex135> !ark
[04:14] <Alex135> dang
[04:14] <Alex135> !rar
[04:15] <SmokeEater85911> gotcha
[04:15] <SmokeEater85911> like Im trying to install a flash player and it asked if I wanted to open it with Ark
[04:15] <mefisto_> the kde4 version of ark doesn't seem to support all archive types, eg rar, zip
[04:15] <Alex135> ooh... flash
[04:15] <Alex135> hard to get flash working
[04:15] <Alex135> not for beginers
[04:16] <B_Raven> Alex135, Hard?
[04:16] <Alex135> well... it can be
[04:16] <rasmus> Mefisto: yes, this is what i get as message
[04:16] <Alex135> B_Raven: took me a while to get flash and java working fully in ubuntu
[04:16] <mefisto_> SmokeEater85911: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[04:16] <mefisto_> !flash
[04:16] <B_Raven> Alex135, Opened up adept, searched for flash and installed it. Was fairly painless. Granted, if you need a never version it can be a bit of a pain.
[04:17] <Alex135> B_Raven: i use latest versions, so ya, pain for me
[04:17] <rasmus> mefisto: "checking for GTK+ - version >= 2.12.0... no*** Could not run GTK+ test program, checking why...*** The test program failed to compile or link. See the file config.log for the*** exact error that occured. This usually means GTK+ is incorrectly installed.configure: error:  *** GTK+ 2.12 is required to build Xpad; please make sure you have the GTK+  *** development headers installed. The latest version of GTK+ is
[04:17] <rasmus>  *** always available at http://gtk.org/."
[04:18] <Alex135> B_Raven: but its a great learning experiance
[04:18] <SmokeEater85911> yeah i downloaded it and extracted it and its just a shell script, so Ill try the sudo thingy ;)
[04:18] <mefisto_> rasmus: do you need to build xpad? isn't it in repos?
[04:18] <Stab> is it big?
[04:19] <B_Raven> Alex135, It's not something users should be faced with as soon as installing linux, but aye, once you get a few months under your belt and have lost your fear of breaking the system (after doing so a few times) it can be very educational.
[04:20] <rasmus> repos?
[04:20] <Alex135> B_Raven: i know :)
[04:20] <navetz__> how can I request a new ip address from my isp from the command line?
[04:20] <SmokeEater85911> beep me if ya need me, im gonna go try to break the system ;)
[04:20] <Alex135> B_Raven: 4 years under my belt allows me to help people out in this channel ;)
[04:20] <B_Raven> Alex135, Still remember my first (and only) kernel compile. Taught me a lot about linux.
[04:20] <Alex135> B_Raven: havn't botherd to try and compile a kernel myself.... just let vmware custom compile one :P
[04:20] <rasmus> Mefisto: I want the newest version of xpad since there's a bug in my current version. How ever, the only version i can get via adept is the old one
[04:21] <mefisto_> rasmus: in konsole, type: sudo apt-get install xpad
[04:21] <rasmus> okej
[04:21] <mefisto_> rasmus: I see
[04:21] <B_Raven> Alex135, I'd recommend it, actually. If only to do it once, even if the compiled kernel will never be used.
[04:21] <Alex135> B_Raven: ill try it out when the next kernel versions come out... (its supposed to have support for every webcam ever made)
[04:21] <rasmus> so, it says that i've got the newest version already
[04:22] <reboot08> is there a belarc version for linux?
[04:22] <Stab> what is ark couldnt create slave?
[04:22] <Stab> unable to create io-slave
[04:23] <Alex135> B_Raven: i just blow my own mind with how much i know at my age.... i remember my first few screwed up systems of linux....
[04:23] <rasmus> Mefisto. Sorry! I'm stupid! I didn't check. Now i see that i got the newest one, also according to the projekt site. Strange how ever that the bug remains
[04:23] <B_Raven> Alex135, The first one is absolutely terrifying. :P
[04:23] <rasmus> how do i uninstall xpad and erase every file associated with it?
[04:23] <Alex135> B_Raven: i know :P
[04:23] <SmokeEater85911> Alex you said you are 15?
[04:23] <Alex135> yes
[04:24] <Alex135> why?
[04:24] <SmokeEater85911> geeze.. i have a 15 year old telling me how to do this stuff, and Im 23 haha
[04:24] <Alex135> lol, thanks for the compliment ;)
[04:24] <SmokeEater85911> when i was 15 i barely knew anything about computers
[04:24] <Alex135> oh, i got into linux at 11
[04:24] <SmokeEater85911> I knew my way around nutscrape navigator though haha
[04:24] <Alex135> ;)
[04:24] <B_Raven> SmokeEater85911, Nothing to be concerned about, I'm 25 and I still take advice from people half my age at times.
[04:25] <SmokeEater85911> they are the future man, its scary
[04:25] <Alex135> your future is in my hands, MUAHAHAHAHA :D
[04:25] <SmokeEater85911> my son is going to be 1000 times more intelligent than i am
[04:25] <SmokeEater85911> except that guy ;) jk
[04:25] <Alex135> funny
[04:26] <Alex135> :P
[04:26] <SmokeEater85911> anyway, back to trying to install something
[04:26] <B_Raven> SmokeEater85911, Intelligence and knowledge has no known correlation.
[04:26] <Alex135> B_Raven: my first real problem was getting a supper old nvidia card working... i have so much experiance in it now that im able to get ANY nvidia card working on almost ANY linux distro...
[04:27] <Alex135> although... i do have an above average iq (not to brag) so thats probably how i caught onto linux so fast
[04:27] <mefisto_> rasmus: try installing gtk2 development files: sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev
[04:27] <SmokeEater85911> i think my nVIDIA card works, it doesnt say that it isnt working (i think(
[04:27] <Alex135> do you get the nvidia logo at startup?
[04:28] <SmokeEater85911> I dont think so
[04:28] <Alex135> then it aint worken i dont think
[04:28] <SmokeEater85911> but I didnt when i was using windows either
[04:28] <B_Raven> Alex135, Actually kind of funny that, a really new nvidia card is the reason I switched from debian to kubuntu yesterday. Debian was simply far too outdated for it to work.
[04:28] <rasmus> Mefisto: Well, i think that the problem is elsewhere ;-)
[04:28] <rasmus> I was stupid, indeed
[04:28] <Stab> ark is for installing a second hd?
[04:28] <rasmus> But how do i do to completly erase every trace of xpad
[04:29] <SmokeEater85911> Im using a geForce 8700M
[04:29] <Alex135> B_Raven: i need to tell someone that... he thinks Debian is "da bomb"
[04:29] <B_Raven> Alex135, Actually, the kubuntu nvidia driver installer sets "nologo" as default.
[04:29] <mefisto_> rasmus: the error message you pasted includes this: make sure you have the GTK+  *** development headers installed.
[04:29] <Alex135> B_Raven: ah ok, thats why.... i remember now i have the logo set to be on for me so i know everything is working right
[04:29] <B_Raven> Alex135, It is, if you need rock solid and throughly tested.
[04:29] <mefisto_> rasmus: sudo apt-get remove --purge xpad
[04:30] <Alex135> B_raven: i prefer to have a few probs once in a while... keeps my brain working ;)
[04:30] <SmokeEater85911> actually i dont think its working
[04:30] <SmokeEater85911> it says its using a VESA driver for the graphics
[04:30] <Alex135> .....
[04:30] <Dr_willis> Alex135,  i do the same thing. Logo = shows nvidia driver dident get messed up :)
[04:30] <Stab> ty alex
[04:30] <Stab> nigth
[04:30] <Alex135> cya stab
[04:30] <Stab> night
[04:30] <Alex135> :)
[04:31] <rasmus> Mefisto: Thanks alot! May the force be with you! ;-)
[04:31] <Stab> night smoke
[04:31] <SmokeEater85911> nite
[04:31] <B_Raven> SmokeEater85911, kmenu->System->Hardware Device Manager.  Does it have the nvidia drivers marked off?
[04:31] <Alex135> oh smoke... here is why i told you to have ext3 as the file system...
[04:31] <SmokeEater85911> k so I sort of got an idea how to configure this..
[04:32] <Alex135> !ext3|SmokeEater85911
[04:32] <SmokeEater85911> it says VESA not nVIDIA
[04:32] <SmokeEater85911> so I clicked Administrator mode, and clicked configure
[04:32] <Alex135> i really cant help much on KDE4 :(
[04:32] <SmokeEater85911> it has a big list of cards and such
[04:33] <Alex135> 1 sec
[04:33] <SmokeEater85911> the closest to mine installed though it just says GeForce4 (generic)
[04:33] <mefisto_> SmokeEater85911: do what B_Raven said ^^
[04:33] <B_Raven> Same here I'm afraid, Not switching to KDE4 until amarok2 and the 177 nvidia linux drivers are out.
[04:33] <Alex135> wait... didn't you say you had a geforce 8 series?
[04:33] <SmokeEater85911> Raven, you mean driver menu?
[04:34] <SmokeEater85911> er yeah got me all confused, its a GeForce 8700M GT
[04:34] <B_Raven> No, it's an application that's put on the menu. Can't be 100% certain if KDE4 has it put there propperly, though.
[04:34] <Alex135> there should be an option then
[04:34] <Alex135> cuz i have an option for the geforce 6 series (my vid card)
[04:35] <SmokeEater85911> no just the DRIVER menu, not device
[04:35] <SmokeEater85911> one sec
[04:35] <Alex135> ya there is an option
[04:35] <Alex135> you probably need to install the newer driver package though
[04:36] <SmokeEater85911> i have it set to nVIDIA Geforce 8 series now, but i need to test it, one sec
[04:36] <Alex135> ok
[04:36] <mefisto_> SmokeEater85911: if you can't find the hardware manager tool in the menu, start it with: kdesu jockey-kde
[04:37] <Alex135> mefisto_ he is setting up the hardware settings first....
[04:37] <Alex135> in the display manager
[04:37] <B_Raven> Well, getting late. Time to head off. See you around.
[04:37] <Alex135> cya B_raven, nice talking to ya
[04:38] <Alex135> Smoke, everything ok?
[04:39] <navetz_> is there a linux equivilent to windows ipconfig -release ?
[04:40] <Alex135> erm.... ifdown eth0 and ifup eth0 ?
[04:40] <Alex135> that should work if your system is setup right
[04:41] <mefisto_> and if it's eth0. it might be eth1 or higher
[04:41] <mefisto_> ifconfig will tell you
[04:41] <Alex135> yes
[04:41] <Alex135> thats correct
[04:42] <Alex135> (forgot that even he has twin ethernet ports :P )
[04:45] <Alex135> oh man, i compleetly forgot about a fanfic i was reading a few hours ago
[04:55] <Dr_willis> I saw a neat gizmo today in the store a 'networked' usb hub. You plug it into your wired (or wireless) network. plug in usb hard drives, scanners, printers. and  some how they appear on the network... Just what i need...
[04:55] <Dr_willis> BUT im researching how it workjs with linux if at all. Anyone seen such a device/used one?
[04:56] <Dr_willis> Belkin - Networked USB Hub http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8374519&type=product&productCategoryId=pcmcat2100050044&id=1178925992366
[04:57] <fernando> alo??
[04:57] <fernando> algien habla español?? jeje
[04:57] <marria> comment ca marche ctruc la
[04:58] <Guest70846> O.o
[04:58] <Guest70846> alo?¿
[04:58] <marria> jcomprends rien de c site la
[04:59] <mefisto_> Dr_willis: see if you can find a downloadable manual
[05:00] <Dr_willis> mefisto_,  reading the FM right now. :)
[05:00] <Dr_willis> seems its XP/Vista32 bit only. and it uses some sort of fancy 'control' panel to allow pc's to access the devices
[05:00] <Dr_willis> a Neat idea/tool if it works well.. but linux is out in the cold it seems.
[05:01] <Dr_willis> But is is about what the wife is wanting with her laptop.  shes using xp on it.
[05:03] <Dr_willis> it is nice of the web site i found to have a manual i can download. :) http://syndicate.sellpoint.net/Syndicate/AssetRedirect?tt_aq=0-25947-179433-1040&ext_url=false&go=%2F__FileManager__%2FOrg_100_74%2F8408%2F8409%2FP75465_F5L009_mnl_hi-res.pdf
[05:03] <smatt454> will there be a way to use kde 3.x in 8.10?
[05:03] <Dr_willis> smatt454,  most likely yes.
[05:04] <smatt454> because i've heard discussions of there being no repos from ubuntu....would i jus thave to use a 3rd party repos?
[05:04] <SmokeEater85911> OMFG!
[05:05] <SmokeEater85911> it literally took me that whole entire time to find my way back
[05:06] <smatt454> ?
[05:06] <smatt454> i've heard discussions of there being no repos for kde 3.5 from ubuntu....would i jus thave to use a 3rd party repos?
[05:06] <smatt454> 3.X*
[05:07] <Dr_willis> No idea. I imagine that will get hammered out soon.
[05:07] <SmokeEater85911> Alex135: sooo yeah that was fun NOT
[05:08] <Alex135> what hapened?
[05:09] <SmokeEater85911> well you know I was trying to fix my nvidia card right?
[05:09] <Alex135> ya
[05:09] <SmokeEater85911> so I clicked TEST and the screen went all funny and it wouldnt exit.. so I had to shut off the machine
[05:09] <Alex135> you hit esc
[05:09] <Alex135> or is it something else... .i forget
[05:10] <SmokeEater85911> then I couldnt figure out for the life of me where kubuntu installs firefox to
[05:10] <SmokeEater85911> its not esc
[05:10] <Alex135> oh then its ctrl alt backspace i think
[05:10] <SmokeEater85911> or ctrl+alt+del, or alt+f4 lol
[05:10] <Alex135> hit ctrl alt backspace
[05:10] <SmokeEater85911> so yeah it was fun trying to figure out where firefox was installed to
[05:10] <mefisto_> ctrl-alt-F7 would bring you back to the normal desktop
[05:10] <SmokeEater85911> i DID find the adept manager though, thats a neat little tool
[05:10] <Dr_willis> Why would you need to know where firefox was installed to?
[05:11] <SmokeEater85911> because I couldnt get back on firefox lol
[05:11] <Dr_willis> The package manager tools can tell you exactly what files a specific package installs where.
[05:11] <Dr_willis> SmokeEater85911,  that makes no sence.
[05:11] <Dr_willis> $ which firefox
[05:11] <Dr_willis> /usr/bin/firefox
[05:12] <smatt454> open a command prompt and type "locate firefox | grep bin"
[05:12] <SmokeEater85911> it does if Im 100% newb to linux lol
[05:12] <Dr_willis> SmokeEater85911,  no it does not. :)
[05:12] <SmokeEater85911> i dont know any commands for the command prompt
[05:13] <mefisto_> SmokeEater85911: you can just type "firefox" and it should start
[05:13] <SmokeEater85911> anywho, once going through the adept manager it automatically adds it to the list in the Kmenu
[05:13] <smatt454> if you type "firefox&" it will run, and not depend on konsole being open
[05:14] <SmokeEater85911> well now I know.. so back to getting my nVIDIA card working
[05:14] <smatt454> which version of kubuntu are you using?
[05:14] <smatt454> and which version of kde
[05:15] <Alex135> kde4
[05:15] <Alex135> hardy
[05:15] <SmokeEater85911> what alex said
[05:15] <SmokeEater85911> i think im gonna downgrade to KDE3 though
[05:15] <smatt454> i prefer kde3
[05:15] <smatt454> but
[05:15] <smatt454> i haven't used 4.1
[05:15] <SmokeEater85911> ya know, in the help menu it says KDE 3.5
[05:16] <SmokeEater85911> 3.5.9
[05:16] <Alex135> trust me, kde3 is much easier
[05:16] <Alex135> the help is outdated for that version
[05:16] <Alex135> thats why its still BETA
[05:16] <smatt454> which is why i'm scared that ubuntu's not going to support kde3 in 8.10 :(
[05:16] <smatt454> or so i've heard
[05:17] <SmokeEater85911> *sigh* so I really need to downgrade, since nobody uses kde4 (yet)
[05:17] <Alex135> ya
[05:17] <Alex135> i should have told you that earlier
[05:17] <soniker89> how to to uninstall Google gadget
[05:17] <soniker89> ???
[05:17] <SmokeEater85911> yeah man, what the hell! lol jk
[05:18] <smatt454> well...i know some people that like kde4
[05:18] <mefisto_> SmokeEater85911: if you install kde3, you can then install kde4 and have them both
[05:18] <smatt454> but kde3 is easy to customize
[05:18] <Alex135> thats cuz it looks like windows vista... BLAKG!
[05:18] <Alex135> (kde4)
[05:18] <Alex135> erm
[05:18] <Alex135> i tried that
[05:18] <SmokeEater85911> yeah, I dont like the windows look
[05:18] <Alex135> doesn't work out too well
[05:18] <smatt454> be warned....when i had kde3 and kde4 installed...and i uninstalled kde4
[05:18] <SmokeEater85911> im trying to get away from M$ as much as possible haha
[05:18] <smatt454> it messed up kde3
[05:18] <Alex135> ya it does mess up kde3
[05:18] <Alex135> i would reinstall
[05:19] <Alex135> it screwed EVERYTHING up
[05:19] <Alex135> i had to redo everything i had
[05:19] <smatt454> me 2
[05:19] <SmokeEater85911> the KDE3 version installs just the same as this one did?
[05:19] <smatt454> yes
[05:19] <smatt454> but dont uninstall kde4
[05:19] <mefisto_> I've installed, uninstalled, then reinstalled kde4 without any problems
[05:19] <smatt454> they both use some of the same dependencies
[05:19] <smatt454> were you using kde3?
[05:19] <SmokeEater85911> k so ill go through and wipe this partition, and download the kde3 pack and install it
[05:20] <smatt454> you don't have to =/
[05:20] <Alex135> i would
[05:20] <smatt454> well
[05:20] <SmokeEater85911> i do if I only have 15gb to work with
[05:20] <smatt454> if you dont have important data
[05:20] <SmokeEater85911> (until i cough up more cash for another HDD)
[05:20] <smatt454> you can install kde3 along side of kde4
[05:20] <smatt454> u dont need to create a new partition
[05:20] <Alex135> dont try it though
[05:20] <smatt454> but
[05:20] <soniker89> what is .:17:. /etc/default/control-setup mean
[05:20] <smatt454> if this is a new install
[05:20] <SmokeEater85911> eh if kde3 is so much better, no sense in taking up space with kde4
[05:21] <Alex135> its a new install, deleate the partitions (both) and reinstall
[05:21] <SmokeEater85911> the new one and the swap space one?
[05:21] <Alex135> yes
[05:21] <Alex135> well
[05:21] <Alex135> i duno
[05:21] <Alex135> i would do it anyway
[05:21] <Alex135> i really dont know muc habout swap
[05:21] <Alex135> anyway
[05:21] <Alex135> time for bed
[05:21] <smatt454> swap is like virtual RAM
[05:21] <SmokeEater85911> same here, ill bug you more tomorrow alex
[05:21] <SmokeEater85911> thanks for the help!
[05:21] <smatt454> it doesnt contain any data
[05:22] <smatt454> u dont have to delete ur swap partition
[05:22] <SmokeEater85911> k
[05:22] <Alex135> cya all, g'night :)
[05:22] <SmokeEater85911> do you know of a good site that lists all the commands out?
[05:22] <SmokeEater85911> nite Alex
[05:22] <Alex135|away> g'night :)
[05:22] <smatt454> i can help u if u need it smokeeater
[05:22] <soniker89> Error .:17:. console-setup
[05:23] <SmokeEater85911> thanks, im gonna go watch some tv with the wife for a bit Ill be back, trust me
[05:23] <SmokeEater85911> you gonna be on here for a while?
[05:23] <smatt454> well i'm not sure...i have work tomorrow xD
[05:23] <cimoet> indonesia
[05:24] <smatt454> if not, i'll be on tomorrow
[05:24] <SmokeEater85911> k ill see you around sometime ;)
[05:24] <smatt454> k xD
[05:26] <mefisto_> I just love to see brand new kubuntu users :)
[05:26] <soniker89> someone I installed gogle gadget and I dont want it
[05:28] <Dr_willis> Uninstall it then?
[05:28] <soniker89> how?
[05:28] <smatt454> what's the output of "dpkg -l | grep google"
[05:28] <soniker89> I'll try it
[05:29] <Dr_willis> how did you install it.. is the deeper question
[05:29] <Dr_willis> There are ppa repos with it -> http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2008/06/16/install-google-gadgets-for-linux-on-ubuntu/
[05:30] <soniker89> yes
[05:32] <soniker89> I did this "kdesu kate /etc/sources.list" i deposit something and update it
[05:37] <smatt454> =/
[05:39] <drmarwat> hello
[05:39] <smatt454> soniker can u be more clear
[05:39] <drmarwat> has anybody tried installing kde 4.1 on kubuntu?
[05:39] <smatt454> yes
[05:40] <smatt454> o sorry i misread that
[05:40] <smatt454> i havent tried 4.1
[05:40] <smatt454> i've tried 4.0
[05:40] <drmarwat> i have isnatlled it, looks fine but few issues
[05:40] <smatt454> such as?
[05:40] <drmarwat> the windows partitions are not accessable
[05:41] <drmarwat> they were in kde 3.5.9
[05:41] <smatt454> that's very odd
[05:41] <drmarwat> my computer icon is just an icon, it wont open my computer menu
[05:42] <mefisto_> kde4 version of ark is not too good. doesn't seem to support many archive types
[05:42] <smatt454> what is the partition name of your windows partition
[05:42] <soniker89> I have 4,1 KDE and I had installed GoogleGadget for linux but I don't Want it anymore
[05:42] <smatt454> (hda3, hda5...ect)
[05:42] <drmarwat> yea
[05:43] <drmarwat> had7, hdb1,2 and 3
[05:43] <joshuajtl> hey folks... got TastyMenu installed, but whenever I logout it gets removed from the panel
[05:43] <smatt454> drmarwat, what happens if you type "/dev/hda7" in konqueror
[05:43] <mefisto_> soniker89: how did you install google gadgets? from konsole?
[05:43] <smatt454> soniker, did you try "dpkg -l | grep google"
[05:44] <drmarwat> it says
[05:44] <drmarwat> The file or folder file:///dev/hda7 does not exist.
[05:44] <drmarwat> weird
[05:44] <smatt454> hmmm
[05:44] <soniker89> i tried but it dont work
[05:45] <smatt454> soniker, try "locate google | grep gadgets"
[05:45] <drmarwat> everything works fine in kde 3.5.9 though
[05:46] <smatt454> did you physically change anything with your harddrives recently?
[05:46] <drmarwat> smatt454: me ?
[05:47] <smatt454> drmarwat, yes...sorry for that
[05:47] <soniker89> drmarwat no
[05:47] <drmarwat> no, just isnatlled kde 4.2 as mentioned on kubuntu website
[05:47] <joshuajtl> hey folks... got TastyMenu installed, but whenever I logout it gets removed from the panel
[05:47] <drmarwat> 4.1 i mean
[05:48] <smatt454> joshuajt1, what version of kde are you using?
[05:48] <smatt454> hmmm, that's really odd drmarwat
[05:48] <smatt454> do you still have kde3 installed?
[05:49] <drmarwat> yes, its there
[05:49] <mot_> what's a good utility to batch-print pictures?
[05:49] <smatt454> did you try logging back into kde3 and seeing if your partitions worked?
[05:49] <mot_> i.e. i want to squeeze 3-4 pictures per page and print about 50 pictures in one go
[05:49] <smatt454> soniker...did u try "locate google | grep gadgets"
[05:50] <drmarwat> i can check that, but they were working previously even on kde 3.5.9
[05:50] <soniker89> where Im totaly new un kubuntu
[05:50] <smatt454> well if they work on kde3, then we know the partition tables did not change
[05:51] <smatt454> soniker, could you please answer my question
[05:51] <soniker89> I havent tried yet in KDE3
[05:51] <mefisto_> drmarwat: open dolphin, and go to "storage media"
[05:52] <drmarwat> i tried that dolphin just shows partitions wont lemme do more
[05:53] <smatt454> soniker, you're answer is unclear
[05:53] <smatt454> did you type in "locate google | grep gadgets" in a command prompt?
[05:53] <mefisto_> drmarwat: so it shows your partitions?
[05:53] <drmarwat> yes it shows but wont mount them
[05:54] <mefisto_> drmarwat: if you double-click? what happens?
[05:54] <soniker89> yes it shows it
[05:55] <soniker89> now what?
[05:55] <smatt454> soniker, copy and paste exactly what it says
[05:55] <smatt454> (please do this in a pm to me)
[05:55] <soniker89> you pm me
[05:57] <drmarwat> wow, i access them now, great :)
[05:57] <drmarwat> god it worked
[05:57] <smatt454> =/
[05:57] <smatt454> u never tried that before?
[05:57] <soniker89> no
[05:58] <drmarwat> i did many time but it didnt work
[05:58] <drmarwat> now suddenly it works
[05:58] <drmarwat> wow
[05:59] <mot_> how do i restart all printing services and clear my current queue?
[05:59] <Dr_willis> mot,  ive used the lprm command befor.. or the cups web interface..
[05:59] <Dr_willis> proberly other ways to do so also mot_
[06:00] <SmokeEater85911> smatt454: do you know where the kde3 download is?
[06:00] <smatt454> smoke, kde3 is a meta package
[06:01] <smatt454> meaning it contains many packages in it
[06:01] <SmokeEater85911> there isnt an ISO for it like the one I just installed?
[06:01] <smatt454> o
[06:01] <smatt454> im sorry i was confused on your question
[06:01] <smatt454> one second
[06:02] <SmokeEater85911> on the kubuntu site its that 3.5 or 4
[06:02] <drmarwat> im downloading kde 4 amarok now
[06:02] <drmarwat> 255 to download, puhhh :)
[06:02] <smatt454> smokeeater, what is your architecture
[06:02] <mefisto_> drmarwat: you mean amarok 2 ?
[06:03] <drmarwat> i mean amarok kde 4
[06:03] <drmarwat> its there in synaptic
[06:03] <SmokeEater85911> x86
[06:04] <smatt454> http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download
[06:04] <smatt454> choose Kubuntu 8.04 - Supported until October 2009
[06:04] <SmokeEater85911> thats the one I downloaded, and it was kde 3.5
[06:05] <smatt454> and obviously make sure the x86 arch option is selected
[06:06] <SmokeEater85911> is 3.5 the same as kde3?
[06:07] <mefisto_> drmarwat: don't expect it to work very well
[06:07] <smatt454> yes
[06:07] <smatt454> 3.5 is the current version of kde3
[06:07] <drmarwat> lets see how it works but im loving kde 4.1 now
[06:07] <mefisto_> 3.5.9 to be precise
[06:08] <SmokeEater85911> well what the hell.. what was alex talking about he though i had 4 lol
[06:08] <SmokeEater85911> yeah 3.5.9 is what I have.. so thats the good one right?
[06:08] <SmokeEater85911> the 4 remix is the still new, beta buggy one
[06:08] <level1> how do I configure a vpn connection?
[06:08] <mefisto_> SmokeEater85911: is the panel black? if it is, that's kde4
[06:09] <SmokeEater85911> panel?
[06:09] <level1> SmokeEater85911: the bar at the bottom
[06:09] <mefisto_> SmokeEater85911: the taskbar thing at the bottom of the screen, under the windows
[06:10] <SmokeEater85911> oh, no its silver
[06:11] <smatt454> that's 3.5.9
[06:11] <SmokeEater85911> sweet
[06:11] <smatt454> yup ^_^
[06:11] <SmokeEater85911> god, getting used to linux is tough lol
[06:11] <SmokeEater85911> i was definitely spoiled with windows..
[06:12] <smatt454> it's deffinately worth it
[06:12] <smatt454> do you do any programming smoke?
[06:12] <mefisto_> SmokeEater85911: you just installed it didn't you?
[06:13] <SmokeEater85911> yes just installed it.. ive programmed some in the past.. C+, Java .. but mainly I do web programming.. PSP, SQL, DHTML type junk
[06:13] <SmokeEater85911> why do you ask?
[06:13] <mefisto_> SmokeEater85911: you say linux is tough, but it's only been a few hours
[06:14] <smatt454> just wondering...u do know that the source code to everything on linux is available xD
[06:14] <SmokeEater85911> yeah linux is open source right
[06:14] <SmokeEater85911> or at least for the most part
[06:15] <smatt454> yes
[06:17] <SmokeEater85911> im not gonna mess with it too much just yet until i can find another HDD
[06:18] <SmokeEater85911> right now Im playin with about 15gb
[06:19] <SmokeEater85911> its quiet in here
[06:19] <SmokeEater85911> ;)
[06:21] <soniker89> where I can find information about uninstall in KUBUNTU?
[06:24] <SmokeEater85911> so what little visual toys can i get for this thing?
[06:25] <mefisto_> soniker89: http://www.pseudorant.com/how-to-install-programs-in-kubuntu-linux/
[06:29] <mefisto_> joshuajtl: still there?
[06:33] <aslam> i just installed new Kubuntu, its just gives me 640x480 resolution, how do i solve it???
[06:33] <SmokeEater85911> man i wish they made more Kubuntu merchandise , like the same stuff as the ubuntu merch.
[06:38] <SmokeEater85911> i mean i guess kubuntu IS ubuntu.. with just an add-on
[06:38] <SmokeEater85911> *sigh*
[06:45] <joshuajtl> mefisto_: hi
[06:47] <mefisto_> about tastymenu, don't know why it's disappearing when you login, but try saving the current session, then try another login
[06:48] <mefisto_> from tastymenu, click the 2nd button with your username, save current session
[06:49] <mefisto_> then test it to see if it's there next time you login
[06:49] <joshuajtl> cool thanks mefisto_
[06:53] <soniker89> console setup mean?
[06:57] <frybye>  hi - problem with the home network - why cant i copy some stuff into the samba shares directories??
[06:57] <frybye> for instance directories full of stuff dont seem to wanna go in there...?
[06:57] <soniker89> ?
[06:58] <frybye> says access denied...
[06:59] <frybye> even individual music titles dont work... i c n ow..
[07:03] <mefisto_> frybye: so you can read but not write to the samba shares
[07:04] <Dr_willis> the 'using samba' book (and another book or 2) are in the samba-doc package. :) they are worth reading to learn whats going on with samba
[07:05] <mefisto_> my experience with samba is... huh? why isn't it working?
[07:05] <curveater> hi, when you look for all wave files under vista you go look for *.wav, what if you wanted to look for all types over 1 Giga? You'd set the advance settings and what symbol would you use to say look for all files? I tried the *  symbol alone and it doesn't work?
[07:06] <Jucato> curveater: shouldn't you be asking this in a vista/windows channel?
[07:06] <Dr_willis> curveater,  err.. why is vista qustions being asked in a Kubuntu Channel?
[07:06] <curveater> because they don't know else where
[07:07] <Dr_willis> curveater,  i suggest checking google then. or the vista help files.
[07:07] <Dr_willis> it may be it wants *.* other then that.. no idea
[07:07] <Jucato> curveater: this is a channel for a GNU/Linux OS. not-Windows.
[07:07] <firecrotch> curveater, pm?
[07:08] <mefisto_> curveater: install kubuntu or run the livecd, and use that to search your files :)
[07:11] <tim_> my wireless got wiped out when I updated (non-restricted driver) what do I do?
[07:16] <mixed1234> anyone here use hydrogen?  I want to know if there is a place where I can download beats for hydrogen
[07:17] <Dr_willis> Perhaps the Hydrogen homepage?
[07:18] <mixed1234> Dr_willis, I suppose the homepage could have demos but not exactlly beats that people have already recorded, ill give the hmepage a look see though
[07:22] <mixed1234> Dr_Willis, anyway, thank you very much for the suggestion, greetings!  I have now upgraded to Ubuntu Studio hardy heron 64 bit and it is awesome, 64 bit is a lot faster when youre transferring gigs of data
[07:24] <Dr_willis> I wouldent think that 64bit would matter with network file transfers much at all..
[07:24] <Dr_willis> or even hard drive to hard drive transfers..
[07:24] <mixed1234> Dr Willis, well when I rip CD's I have noticed a gain in speed
[07:25] <mixed1234> and when transferring my movies is a little faster as well, I can't complain
[07:26] <Dr_willis> You may be seeing better speeds at encoding the data to mp3/whatever. :) not the data to the disk speeds boosting..
[07:26] <Dr_willis> I could see how 64bit could help encoding.
[07:26] <mixed1234> Dr_Willis, why is it that I can't have more than one app playing sound though???
[07:27] <Dr_willis> Your sound card  and the alsa drivers are not fully supporting the mixing i imagine.
[07:28] <mixed1234> even after I closed the appz I am still unable to use amarok to play my music, i guess i'll have to reboot
[07:30] <Dr_willis> some sound cards are very porely done with lackluster support
[07:30] <Dr_willis> some are so new they 'break' things also
[07:40] <SmokeEater85911> howdy howdy howdy
[07:41] <SmokeEater85911> I have another issue if anybody is here can you help address it?
[07:43] <Dr_Willis> depends on the issue.
[07:44] <SmokeEater85911> i dont know if i have any audio
[07:45] <SmokeEater85911> or if its just Flash that isnt playing audio
[07:45] <Dr_Willis> try playing a game that has some audio?
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> or download some wav files and tyr playingthem
[07:46] <SmokeEater85911> well anything flash with music isnt playing the music..
[07:46] <SmokeEater85911> Im trying to find a wav or something to test
[07:48] <Dr_Willis> http://www.naturesongs.com/mourndove1.wav
[07:48] <Dr_Willis> :)
[07:48] <Dr_Willis> not a loud sound..
[07:48] <SmokeEater85911> well that was weird.. is it natural for this to say battery is not present?
[07:49] <Dr_Willis> no idea on battery
[07:49] <SmokeEater85911> now the battery kicked back on.. maybe it was because it had reached fully charged 8shrug*
[07:49] <Dr_Willis> I noticed my wifes laptop - the battery totally dosetn work - even tho it says its 100% charged.. and its only a year old.
[07:49] <Dr_Willis> but it was a $350 laptop :P
[07:50] <SmokeEater85911> fun
[07:50] <SmokeEater85911> im surprised my wifes laptop hasnt taken a crap yet
[07:50] <SmokeEater85911> its about 3-4 years old but its taken LOTS of abuse
[07:50] <SmokeEater85911> the only thing dying on that lappy is the LCD screen is dimming
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> Yep - my wife leaves hers on like 24/7 for Months at a time.. just sitting there with a solitare game on it
[07:52] <SmokeEater85911> nope no sound at all
[07:52] <SmokeEater85911> yeah i hear ya there, mine does the same.. its like its not a desktop.. you cant do that haha
[07:53] <SmokeEater85911> so for some reason i have no sound
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> if she kills it.. i will get her another. :)
[07:53] <SmokeEater85911> (im new to linux)
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> or give her my current one and get ME a new one. :P
[07:54] <SmokeEater85911> yeah thats what I did haha, gave her my old gateway and bought a nice new toshiba while i was deployed
[07:55] <SmokeEater85911> sorry, firefox crashed
[07:56] <SmokeEater85911> any ideas on the sound thing?
[07:56] <dwidmann> SmokeEater85911: is that no sound in general, or something more specific? If it's in general, do you know what the chipset is?
[07:57] <SmokeEater85911> no sound at all
[07:57] <SmokeEater85911> yeah the chipset is an intel PM965 Express
[07:58] <dwidmann> Nah, the sound chip (should have been more specific)
[07:58] <SmokeEater85911> oh, hm gimme a sec
[08:00] <dwidmann> SmokeEater85911: alsamixer *might* tell you
[08:00] <SmokeEater85911> alsawhatsa?
[08:01] <dwidmann> SmokeEater85911: just run that command in a shell and you'll see.
[08:02] <SmokeEater85911> wow thats pretty neat
[08:02] <SmokeEater85911> it says its a REaltek ALC268
[08:03] <SmokeEater85911> (i'll have to learn all these neat little things in the konsole eventualy)
[08:03] <dwidmann> and off to google I go :)
[08:03] <hoodlum> hi, i was wondering if anyone could help with a problem i am running in to
[08:04] <dwidmann> hoodlum: probably
[08:05] <hoodlum> i am really new to this, but i cannot get my wireless connection to connect to any network that has encryption
[08:05] <dwidmann> SmokeEater85911: I wonder if this is still valid: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=558069
[08:05] <hoodlum> i know for a fact the password is correct, but it never accepts it
[08:07] <dwidmann> hoodlum: not my forte ... I'm one of the lucky people whose wireless worked out of the box ... sorry
[08:07] <SmokeEater85911> dwidmann: k Im gonna download a codec/driver and try then
[08:07] <SmokeEater85911> hey hoodlum you are having network problems?
[08:07] <hoodlum> yeah
[08:07] <SmokeEater85911> I was just having this too but I figured it out
[08:08] <hoodlum> i am connected wireless now
[08:08] <SmokeEater85911> does your wlan use a WEP key?
[08:08] <hoodlum> but i had to take the encryption off
[08:08] <SmokeEater85911> was it a 10 digit passphrase?
[08:08] <hoodlum> when the WEP key was activated, i could not conneect
[08:08] <SmokeEater85911> k did you try clicking the dropdpwn and selecting "HEX"?
[08:08] <dwidmann> WEP = Weak Excuse for Protection
[08:09] <SmokeEater85911> i selected hex, and then entered my passphrase and it worked perfectly
[08:09] <hoodlum> haha its what my campus uses
[08:09] <hoodlum> really?
[08:09] <hoodlum> ill have to give that a try
[08:09] <SmokeEater85911> yeah give it a shot
[08:09] <SmokeEater85911> I was messing with it for about an hour, to realize I was just trying the wrong one haha
[08:10] <hoodlum> what kind of computer are you running?
[08:10] <SmokeEater85911> a Toshiba Satellite X205
[08:10] <hoodlum> i have an HP, i hate it
[08:11] <hoodlum> its burning my lap right now
[08:11] <SmokeEater85911> dwidmann: man trying to install something is a pain in linux lol
[08:11] <SmokeEater85911> yeah my laptop hardly gets hot, it has huge fans in it but it weighs about 10lbs
[08:11] <SmokeEater85911> because of the subwoofer
[08:11] <SmokeEater85911> but the open space allows better airflow
[08:12] <hoodlum> well thanks for the suggestion, im gonna go mess with it now
[08:12] <SmokeEater85911> lemme know if it works
[08:13] <SmokeEater85911> dwidmann: so how do you install stuff? whats the magic command line?
[08:13] <dwidmann> SmokeEater85911: most things are relatively easy to install.
[08:13] <SmokeEater85911> the file is called LinuxPkg_5.07.tar.bz2
[08:14] <SmokeEater85911> its in my Home>Documents>Audio Card folder
[08:15] <dwidmann> SmokeEater85911: two different magic commands available for most things --- apt-get install --- dpkg --install --- those are my "magic" commands.
[08:15] <SmokeEater85911> sorry still trying to learn all the Linux commands heh
[08:15] <SmokeEater85911> so use "apt-get install"?
[08:16] <dwidmann> SmokeEater85911: no, follow the instructions on that page, I'm assuming ...
[08:16] <dwidmann> SmokeEater85911: apt-get install is for grabbing packages from Ubuntu's repository (over 20,000 packages in all), dpkg --install is for installing .deb files.
[08:17] <SmokeEater85911> ah
[08:18] <SmokeEater85911> what is -jxvf?
[08:19] <dwidmann> j = bzip2, x= extract, v = be verbose, f = use archive file
[08:20] <dwidmann> or something like that
[08:20] <SmokeEater85911> gotcha
[08:20] <SmokeEater85911> this little tutorial actually makes it pretty easy to use the terminal to install stuff
[08:22] <SmokeEater85911> hmm no config screen popped up though
[08:24] <mark-m_>  i have a question - if anyone has any clues it would help.... when i boot up i get login - enter details all goes OK as soon as the desktop is up and running the keyboard stops. I have swaped keyboards... same problem. On the same machine i can boot into ubuntu media install or a kubuntu kde4 install and no problem.... any clues?
[08:25] <SmokeEater85911> driver issue perhaps?
[08:26] <mark-m_> it has beem working fine - then pof! it stopped.....
[08:26] <SmokeEater85911> dwidmann: so while trying to install it deleted my current driver, and didnt install one, so now its saying there is no sound driver at all
[08:26] <dwidmann> SmokeEater85911: uh oh, that's not good
[08:26] <SmokeEater85911> Configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[08:27] <dwidmann> hmm, have you installed the  "build-essential" package?
[08:27] <dwidmann> ("sudo apt-get install build-essential")
[08:28] <SmokeEater85911> standby
[08:30] <dwidmann> seeing as I just got off work, I need to get a shower ... be back in about 20 minutes.
[08:30] <SmokeEater85911> k
[08:35] <SmokeEater85911> this terminal stuff kinda reminds me when i used to fart around in a shell with a MUD I used to work on..
[08:35] <SmokeEater85911> so the build-essential pack allows the "make" function to act as a compiler right?
[08:36] <hoodlum> hey, i got it to work thanks a lot
[08:36] <SmokeEater85911> was that what was wrong with it?
[08:36] <SmokeEater85911> the hex thing
[08:36] <hoodlum> sort of
[08:37] <hoodlum> when i found the security on the router
[08:37] <SmokeEater85911> w00t haha Ive never touched a linux machine until today, and Im already helpin people haha
[08:37] <hoodlum> i was typing the passphrase, not the keys it generated
[08:37] <SmokeEater85911> oh hah
[08:37] <SmokeEater85911> i made mine simple, i just enter my phone number ;0
[08:37] <hoodlum> when i had windows no this laptop the passphrase worked
[08:38] <hoodlum> either way, im happy
[08:38] <SmokeEater85911> so I take it you are somewhat new to Linux as well?
[08:38] <hoodlum> yeah
[08:38] <SmokeEater85911> awesome
[08:38] <hoodlum> i installed kubuntu on my desktop about a year ago
[08:38] <hoodlum> and never touched it
[08:38] <SmokeEater85911> Im trying to learn as much as I can.. I hate windows for all that its worth
[08:38] <hoodlum> yeah me too
[08:39] <hoodlum> i still use windows on my desktp because i love gaming
[08:39] <SmokeEater85911> so right now Im working on little things not working, finding most of this stuff out on my own
[08:39] <SmokeEater85911> yeah, I dont play that many PC games
[08:39] <hoodlum> i really want to find out stuff on my own, but its overwhelming
[08:40] <SmokeEater85911> Im going to buy another HDD and try to use Linux as much as possible
[08:40] <hoodlum> i dont get all the konsole commands
[08:40] <SmokeEater85911> i agree.. its definately not point and click
[08:40] <SmokeEater85911> yeah! same here
[08:40] <SmokeEater85911> its chinese to me, but im learning
[08:40] <hoodlum> exactly
[08:40] <SmokeEater85911> I wanna go to the bookstore and get a linux for dummies book
[08:40] <SmokeEater85911> it has a lot of the shell commands in it
[08:40] <hoodlum> haha not a bad idea
[08:41] <SmokeEater85911> right now Im trying to figure out how to get my sound to work ;)
[08:41] <hoodlum> i really wanna to figure out how to install and run beryl
[08:41] <hoodlum> sounds like you laptop has a pretty high end sound system
[08:41] <SmokeEater85911> whats beryl
[08:42] <hoodlum> you mentioned the sub woofer
[08:42] <SmokeEater85911> it has 4 harman/kardon speakers and a sub haha
[08:42] <favro> !compiz
[08:42] <SmokeEater85911> its a pretty good laptop for gaming, but I dont play much
[08:42] <SmokeEater85911> its just a big toy hah
[08:43] <hoodlum> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZD7QraljRfM
[08:43] <hoodlum> look at that video
[08:43] <SmokeEater85911> nVIDIA Geforce 8700M GT
[08:43] <hoodlum> wow
[08:43] <hoodlum> i just got an 8800 in my desktop
[08:43] <hoodlum> gtx
[08:43] <hoodlum> my laptop has a 7 series
[08:43] <SmokeEater85911> wow beryl looks nice
[08:43] <SmokeEater85911> !beryl
[08:44] <SmokeEater85911> !compiz
[08:44] <SmokeEater85911> try that, install compiz-fusion
[08:44] <SmokeEater85911> its a new and improved beryl i take it
[08:44] <SmokeEater85911> im DLing it right now
[08:44] <hoodlum> i did that already
[08:45] <hoodlum> but cant figure out whats next
[08:45] <SmokeEater85911> *kicks sound card driver*
[08:46] <SmokeEater85911> hmm yeah i see what you mean, i just downloaded that stuff too
[08:46] <SmokeEater85911> and nothing hah
[08:46] <hoodlum> yeah
[08:46] <hoodlum> not sure what to do
[08:46] <SmokeEater85911> http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/
[08:49] <hoodlum> i am just going to follow the directions and see whath appens
[08:49] <SmokeEater85911> yeah Im trying to find where it says how to install plugins
[08:50] <hoodlum> already lost
[08:50] <hoodlum> oh well
[08:52] <dwidmann> Hmm, I'm back.
[08:53] <SmokeEater85911> wb
[08:53] <SmokeEater85911> fixed the driver thing kinda
[08:54] <SmokeEater85911> still no sound, but at least it shows "system sound" again
[08:54] <SmokeEater85911> hey hoodlum
[08:54] <SmokeEater85911> try "sudo apt-get install compiz-fusion-plugins-main"
[08:54] <SmokeEater85911> you know how to use the adept manager?
[08:55] <SmokeEater85911> dwidmann: so any more ideas?
[08:55] <SmokeEater85911> i figured out the whole build-essentials thing.. and it compiled fine.. just not the right one i guess
[08:56] <dwidmann> Umm, I think I'm out of ideas then :\
[08:56] <dwidmann> One possible solution would be to buy a cheap sound card
[08:56] <SmokeEater85911> NO, i like my sound haha I'd like to be able to utilize my setup
[08:56] <hoodlum> ive usesd adept manager
[08:57] <SmokeEater85911> hoodlum: open adept and search for "compiz-fusion" it will bring up a lot of stuff
[08:58] <SmokeEater85911> you know whats funny, when i first loaded up kubuntu it played the little tune for startup
[08:58] <SmokeEater85911> but then i never heard it again
[08:59] <hoodlum> i installed all of them, haha now i dunno what to do
[09:00] <SmokeEater85911> yeah me neither lol
[09:00] <SmokeEater85911> hey dwidmann, do you know how to use compiz>
[09:00] <SmokeEater85911> ?*
[09:00] <SmokeEater85911> !compiz
[09:00] <dwidmann> SmokeEater85911: there's a good start :P
[09:00] <SmokeEater85911> there you go, go to #compiz-fusion
[09:00] <dwidmann> SmokeEater85911: I don't use it myself, so no, not really.
[09:01] <SmokeEater85911> hmm
[09:03] <SmokeEater85911> did you order your free "powered by ubuntu" stickers? lol
[09:05] <dwidmann> SmokeEater85911: no, I had to pay for my "Powered by Kubuntu" stickers :P
[09:05] <dwidmann> Very cheap, of course ... many thanks to Jenda for that.
[09:05] <SmokeEater85911> are they the shiny metal ones or just the white paper ones?
[09:06] <dwidmann> Umm, paper.
[09:06] <SmokeEater85911> i want some kubuntu stickers! haha where did you get them?
[09:06] <dwidmann> SmokeEater85911: Got them from Jenda ... lemme see if I can dig up his email and what you'll need to say/do
[09:08] <dwidmann> SmokeEater85911: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=344600
[09:10] <SmokeEater85911> hmm his link is broken but I assume I can email him
[09:11] <dwidmann> SmokeEater85911: yeah, email and ask
[09:11] <SmokeEater85911> how much did they cost ya
[09:12] <dwidmann> Umm, can't recall, think I sent $10
[09:13] <SmokeEater85911> sweet how many did you get?
[09:13] <dwidmann> Umm, can't remember, this was like a year ago
[09:13] <dwidmann> More than I really needed
[09:13] <SmokeEater85911> heh awesoem, im gonna slap it right over my vista sticker lol
[09:14] <dwidmann> Awesome plan
[09:16] <SmokeEater85911> im gonna give up on the sound problems for now, and try to get it to recognize my video card...
[09:16] <SmokeEater85911> :X
[09:18] <bttb> Hi all
[09:20] <bttb> Is Kubuntu 8.04 a LTS release?
[09:21] <Dr_willis> !lts
[09:21] <Dr_willis> Technically - i dont think it is.
[09:21] <bttb> Is it maybe LTS when you choose to run KDE3?
[09:22] <Dr_willis> No idea. The whold LTS means very little to me
[09:22] <Dr_willis> since im a home user.
[09:22] <carlin> !compiz
[09:22] <SmokeEater85911> LTS.. Learn iT yourSelf
[09:23] <bttb> Me too, but I like LTS because for me it means that I don't have to care for three years
[09:23] <bttb> :)
[09:23] <Dr_willis> Like in 3 years time you will be usign the same or.. :) or even the same machine?
[09:23] <bttb> Yes
[09:23] <Dr_willis> In 3 years time.. I can imagine that 2+gb hd's will be common. :) and 8 core cpus will be as cheap as doritos. :)
[09:23] <bttb> Well, no. After three years I'd update to the next LTS release :D
[09:23] <Dr_willis> oops 2+TB :)
[09:24] <Dr_willis> Do what ever you want. this is linux :P
[09:24] <dwidmann> Dr_willis: not sure about that cheap as Doritos part ... but they'll definitely be on the market.
[09:24] <Dr_willis> dwidmann,  yep. and i bet windows will still grow enough junk to bog them down.
[09:25] <dwidmann> Dr_willis: probably
[09:25] <dwidmann> I bet the quad core cpus will be dirt cheap by then though.
[09:25] <Dr_willis> I saw 1 TB hds in the $180 range on sale today.
[09:25] <Dr_willis> Thats getting reasonable. :)
[09:26] <bttb> I'm happy with 30GB on this lappy :D
[09:26] <dwidmann> Yeah, quite reasonable.
[09:26] <Dr_willis> I got a 250gb on my laptop. and its only using 20gb or so
[09:26] <Dr_willis> cheaper to get a new laptop with bigger hd.. then to upgrade my old.
[09:26] <dwidmann> I've only got a 160g
[09:26] <dwidmann> **gb in my laptop
[09:27] <dwidmann> My future plans involve probably those 1TB drives.
[09:27] <dwidmann> I need to build a relatively inexpensive nfs server
[09:27] <Dr_willis> Getting where i cant backstuff up fast enought to DVD.
[09:28] <Dr_willis> I need to make a Fileserver up one day
[09:28] <Dr_willis> but i still want backups to dvd. :)
[09:28] <dwidmann> Dr_willis: Yeah, I've been backing up to external hard drive, in addition to keeping everything on my desktop's 750, and important stuff on my laptop's 160
[09:29] <Dr_willis> Yep. It seems i can burn dvd disks faster then i can often copy things to external usb hd's
[09:29] <limz> howzit
[09:29] <Dr_willis> external sata drives... ! i want one! or a dozen
[09:29] <limz> any1 know a VNCViewer to view a windows machine from Ubuntu?
[09:30] <dwidmann> Dr_willis: eSATA is just as fast as the internal version ... I think connected via USB 2.0 I can only get like 30Mbs, but with eSATA and the same drive I get 45+
[09:31] <dwidmann> Dr_willis: caveat at least with this motherboard, I don't know about others, is that the eSATA isn't plug & play
[09:32] <SmokeEater85911> back
[09:32] <dwidmann> wb SmokeEater85911
[09:33] <SmokeEater85911> thanks, i got compiz workin
[09:34] <SmokeEater85911> got it to recognize my video card too
[09:35] <dwidmann> SmokeEater85911: that's always good
[09:35] <dwidmann> I want a new video card ...
[09:36] <SmokeEater85911> i have a nice one that came with the lappy ;)
[09:37] <dwidmann> A mobile one, that's nice? Which model might that be?
[09:37] <SmokeEater85911> nVIDIA GeForce 8700M GT
[09:38] <gnumm> how long does an update from one kubuntu version to the next usually takes?
[09:38] <gnumm> how much time
[09:38] <dwidmann> gnumm: depends on your connection speed.
[09:38] <gnumm> ah right
[09:38] <gnumm> 230kb/s
[09:39] <dwidmann> also depends how many extra package syou have installed.
[09:41] <gnumm> lets say a kubuntu installation without additional packages
[09:41] <gnumm> it shouldn't take longer than 3 houres or?
[09:41] <josh__> im in Kubuntu...
[09:41] <dwidmann> Shouldn't
[09:42] <josh__> how do i compile my 9800 GTX Drivers
[09:42] <josh__> what are the commands?
[09:42] <josh__> hehe
[09:42] <josh__> i compiled drivers in ubuntu and Suse before...
[09:42] <josh__> just kinda confused in Kubuntu lol
[09:43] <josh__> anyone want to help?
[09:43] <dwidmann> josh__: download it from nvidia.com, then run "chmod +x thefilethatyoudownloaded" then "sudo ./thefilethatyoudownloaded
[09:45] <josh__> so its chmod +x (space) the file i downloaded?
[09:45] <josh__> while i am in the GUI?
[09:45] <dwidmann> No, in a shell
[09:45] <josh__> how do i get to the shell?
[09:45] <josh__> what command?
[09:45] <dwidmann> ctrl+alt+f1
[09:45] <josh__> how do i get back?
[09:45] <josh__> when i am there
[09:45] <dwidmann> ctrl+alt+f7
[09:45] <josh__> ight thx
[09:46] <josh__> ill let you know how it goes
[09:46] <dwidmann> You should probably log out  before you switch to ctrl+alt+f1
[09:46] <josh__> of IRC?
[09:46] <josh__> or
[09:46] <dwidmann> josh__: out of kde
[09:46] <josh__> ok
[09:46] <josh__> gonna do this now
[09:46] <SmokeEater85911> wow thats pretty enat
[09:46] <SmokeEater85911> neat*
[09:46] <SmokeEater85911> so does that just open the shell or what
[09:47] <dwidmann> SmokeEater85911: ctrl+alt+f1-6 = virtual terminals
[09:47] <SmokeEater85911> what do they do?
[09:47] <gnumm> but with ctrl + alt +f1
[09:47] <gnumm> you are still in X
[09:48] <gnumm> you must leave X
[09:48] <dwidmann> gnumm: that's why I said he should log out first
[09:49] <hoodlum> what does the keystroke <shift><super>
[09:49] <gnumm> yes i didn't see
[09:49] <hoodlum> what does super mean
[09:49] <SmokeEater85911> super?
[09:49] <hoodlum> yeah
[09:49] <hoodlum> some of the commands for the compiz are shift super
[09:50] <hoodlum> or  ctrl super
[09:50] <gnumm> on your keyboard it should be the button with the windows flag
[09:50] <hoodlum> ooh
[09:50] <gnumm> there is often a windows flag
[09:50] <hoodlum> yeah thats it
[09:50] <hoodlum> thanks
[09:50] <SmokeEater85911> heh I wondered if that key was even used with linux
[09:51] <SmokeEater85911> I wish it would bring up the Kmenu
[09:51] <SmokeEater85911> then I'd slap the kubuntu sticker over that key ;D
[09:52] <gnumm> ask kde4 dev ;) maybe they accept that idea...
[09:52] <SmokeEater85911> OH YOU CAN DO IT MUAHAHA
[09:53] <SmokeEater85911> haha sorry got a little too excited there
[09:53] <josh__> hmm
[09:53] <josh__> it complains about Xsever
[09:53] <josh__> that i have Xserver running
[09:53] <josh__> i used the
[09:53] <josh__> 2 commands
[09:53] <josh__> you gave me
[09:53] <josh__> in the shell
[09:53] <dwidmann> hmm, do sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[09:54] <josh__> how do i restart it tho?
[09:54] <dwidmann> then to get back to X afterwards, sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start
[09:54] <josh__> when i am done?
[09:54] <josh__> then i can go back into
[09:54] <josh__> my
[09:54] <josh__> desktop?
[09:54] <dwidmann> Yeah
[09:54] <josh__> nothing will be screwed up
[09:54] <josh__> ight
[09:54] <josh__> ill try again
[09:54] <dwidmann> josh__: You'll want to configure X before restarting though - sudo nvidia-xconfig
[09:55] <gnumm> type in the usual konsole "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop"
[09:55] <gnumm> so stop X
[09:55] <dwidmann> gnumm: You do realize that josh__ just left the server, right?
[09:56] <gnumm> yes now
[09:56] <gnumm> i'm too late today..
[09:56] <OutoLumo> Nice... I Rebooted, and GRUB said: "File not found."
[09:56] <dwidmann> OutoLumo: error 17 huh?
[09:56] <OutoLumo> The nice thing is, that it took only about 30 seconds to recover :-7
[09:57] <OutoLumo> dwidmann, I had updated kernel, but neglected updating menu.lst
[09:57] <dwidmann> OutoLumo: yeah, that would do it
[09:58] <OutoLumo> good thing I knew what to do. I've had trouble with dual boot before.
[09:58] <josh__> it saids
[09:58] <josh__> i have no libc header files
[09:58] <josh__> :/
[09:58] <josh__> what must i do?
[09:58] <dwidmann> josh__: well
[09:59] <dwidmann> josh__: sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r`
[09:59] <josh__> dang those build essentials lol
[09:59] <josh__> everytime
[09:59] <josh__> its always them
[09:59] <josh__> at least with newbies like my self
[09:59] <Douglas_E> hello all, I have a computer and a laptop on a router in my house and want to be able to share files and printer etc between them. How do I set this up? Is there a good webpage? What software is best?
[09:59] <josh__> =/
[10:00] <josh__> alright
[10:00] <josh__> its done
[10:00] <josh__> should i try again then?
[10:00] <Douglas_E> should I set up somba? Is that the right software for this little system?
[10:00] <josh__> ima try again
[10:00] <dwidmann> Douglas_E: you can share the printer with CUPS, you can share the files with NFS
[10:02] <dwidmann> Douglas_E: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=249889
[10:03] <SmokeEater85911> nite all
[10:03] <Douglas_E> thanks dwidmann! Just getting the word nfs has let my googling start to work. :-)
[10:07] <rasmus> Hi! I want to remove xpad completly but even though i use the purge-command my notes reapear when reinstalling. How do i remove it completly
[10:07] <josh__> it works xD
[10:07] <josh__> how do i get into compiz tho?
[10:07] <josh__> i pressed the install button for it
[10:08] <josh__> where do i like  find it lol?
[10:08] <dwidmann> rasmus: probably some config files for it laying around, perhaps in a hidden file in your home folder (probably something like ~/.xpad)
[10:08] <dwidmann> josh__: maybe someone in #compiz-fusion would know
[10:09] <rasmus> dwidmann: aren't they supposed to be purged to? I'll have a try manualy then
[10:09] <Douglas_E> what is that address? It keeps showing up. Are these only local computers? "For Full Read Write Permissions allowing any computer from 192.168.1.1 through 192.168.1.255"
[10:10] <dwidmann> Douglas_E: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=249889 <-- you mean this one?
[10:11] <josh__> hmm
[10:11] <Douglas_E> dwidmann: no I mean 192.168.1.X
[10:11] <josh__> how do i enable the cube effect in Kbuntu lol?
[10:12] <dwidmann> Douglas_E: 192.168.1.x is reserved for local stuff, yeah. Whether or not your networks router uses that or not can vary though
[10:12] <dwidmann> Douglas_E: pretty sure there are a few others that  can be used
[10:12] <dwidmann> Douglas_E: when configuring NFS you can use hostnames instead and/or also if you want to.
[10:13] <Douglas_E> dwidmann: like localhost?
[10:14] <dwidmann> Douglas_E: it doesn't make much sense to share it with the same computer, but yeah, you *can* do that
[10:15] <dwidmann> to get the hostname you can use the hostname command (very obvious, I know)
[10:15] <Douglas_E> dwidmann: As I am sure you cane see I am network Newbie, I just want to let my laptop get at everything without compromizing my security of coures. I do serve a web page and ssh to the net.
[10:16] <dwidmann> I don't know too much about Networking either, just enough to get by.
[10:17] <dwidmann> Douglas_E: You'll probably want to configure iptables to make things more secure then. NFS isn't the most secure of protocols, so you'll want to make very sure that its port is only accessible locally and not from the net.
[10:18] <dwidmann> Douglas_E: I've not had enough experience with that myself though to be able to tell you how to do it ..
[10:18] <Douglas_E> dwidmann: I use firestart. It is great and easy. Do you know how to tell what port nfs is on?
[10:19] <dwidmann> Douglas_E: not me, sorry
[10:19] <dwidmann> Douglas_E: maybe in one of NFS's config files?
[10:19] <dwidmann> Douglas_E:  you probably want to change it anyway.
[10:22] <Douglas_E> dwidmann: I can search it but do you know where that config is of the top of your head?
[10:23] <dwidmann> not sure Douglas_E, it has been a while
[10:25] <josh__> what was that
[10:25] <josh__> compiz channel?
[10:25] <josh__> lol
[10:26] <josh__> my cube effect
[10:26] <josh__> is only showing has 1 plane
[10:26] <josh__> 1 face 2 sided
[10:26] <josh__> or a 2 sided plane
[10:26] <josh__> not a 6 faced cube...
[10:27] <josh__> i need 4 desktops
[10:27] <josh__> not 2...
[10:27] <josh__> alot of people have this problem...
[10:27] <dwidmann> !compiz
[10:27] <josh__> i dont know how to fix it in Kubuntu
[10:32] <josh__> how i change my number of viewports?
[10:32] <josh__> in Kubuntu
[10:32] <josh__> to like 4 or 6
[10:32] <josh__> instead of just 2
[10:33] <josh__> or desktops
[10:33] <josh__> i guess they call em
[10:34] <bobito> anyone know how to get sources.list back to its 'fresh install' state?
[10:35] <josh__> KDE pwns Gnome
[10:35] <josh__> im never going to use Gnome again
[10:35] <josh__> its trash
[10:35] <dario> josh__ just look in systemsettings
[10:37] <josh__> i did but
[10:37] <josh__> it doesn't seem to work...
[10:37] <josh__> hm
[10:37] <josh__> ima try an log out and it
[10:37] <josh__> in*
[10:40] <josh__> umm
[10:40] <josh__> when i compiled
[10:40] <josh__> should of have gotten this error
[10:42] <josh__> Warning : Unable to perform the runtimeconfiguation check library 'libGL.so.1' ('/user/lib32/libGL.so.173.14.12') assuming sucessful installation
[10:42] <josh__> is that a problem?
[10:42] <josh__> cause my GUI is being a little fishy...
[10:43] <josh__> any idea?
[10:43] <josh__> if thats bad or not
[10:43] <josh__> :/
[10:44] <dwidmann> josh__: Welcome to the world of beta drivers.
[10:44] <josh__> ^^
[10:44] <josh__> thats a beta driver O_o
[10:44] <josh__> dangit....
[10:44] <josh__> slap me silly, and punch me in the face...
[10:44] <josh__> what should i do then lol
[10:45] <dwidmann> josh__: well, it's the only way you're going to have that 9800gtx working well (the beta driver, that is), unless 177 was recently released and I didn't hear about it.
[10:45] <meta> Hi all
[10:45] <dwidmann> Hi meta
[10:45] <meta> I have enabled the transparent windows in kde. Now my kicker is about 80% transparent
[10:45] <meta> and there are no setting to get that back to 100%
[10:46] <meta> how can i set it to 100%?
[10:47] <josh__> i need mp3 support...
[10:47] <josh__> and .wma
[10:47] <josh__> how do i do this
[10:47] <josh__> lol
[10:47] <dwidmann> meta, right click on kicker, configure panel, appearance tab, click advanced options
[10:47] <dwidmann> josh__: install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[10:47] <meta> yeah i was there
[10:48] <meta> but that slider only sets the tinting
[10:48] <meta> not the transparency
[10:48] <dwidmann> meta, that tinting should do the trick, one end is opaque tinted, the other end is completely transparent.
[10:49] <meta> i tried to set it everywhere
[10:49] <meta> and it isn
[10:49] <meta> 't changes anythin
[10:49] <meta> g
[10:51] <dwidmann> meta: is transparency enabled?
[10:51] <meta> yeah
[10:51] <meta> ij the window settings
[10:51] <meta> n
[10:52] <josh__> why do people even use Gnome?
[10:52] <josh__> instead of KDE?
[10:52] <meta> Because they are can't chew a gum and walk in the same time
[10:53] <meta> Too many buttons and settings for their V 1.0 brain:)
[10:53] <meta> Now i'm lacking an option... but this is another thing:)
[10:53] <dwidmann> I was trying to think of something constructive to say, but I personally kind of agree with meta in a way, even though I feel like I shouldn't ^^;
[10:54] <meta> I have a very cool example, a moment
[10:55] <meta> Check: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam
[10:55] <meta> Cheese is the new and fancy photo shooting/video grabbing utility for Gnome, quite similar to Photobooth for OSX.
[10:55] <meta> In the gnomeidiotic language, fancy means 5 button.
[10:55] <meta> http://www.gnome.org/projects/cheese/screenshots.html
[10:56] <meta> And you  may think that there are a "Preferences" submenu under the "Edit" menu, i have tried this app, and i can say: no.
[10:56] <meta> Resolution? Brightness? Mirroring? Color correction? Nooo don't confuse the users.
[10:57] <josh__> i need
[10:57] <josh__> a good media player...
[10:57] <josh__> any ideas?
[10:57] <meta> smplayer?
[10:58] <meta> kmplayer,kaffeine, vlc?
[10:58] <meta> or if you want to get your brain out then totem:)
[10:59] <josh__> ^^
[10:59] <josh__> i need to enable my USB Headset
[10:59] <josh__> has the default Audio thing...
[11:01] <josh__> how do i do this?
[11:01] <josh__> i have 2 audio sources
[11:01] <japa> do what?
[11:01] <josh__> i need to select one has my default source
[11:04] <japa> hm... not sure how to help that...
[11:04] <josh__> :(
[11:14] <japa> can anybody help me with my nVidia drivers? they are installed, but shaders don't work
[11:15] <josh__> umm
[11:15] <josh__> i need to get these drivers working...
[11:16] <josh__> what is 'libGL.so.1'
[11:16] <josh__> ?
[11:16] <favro> !info libgl
[11:17] <favro> of course
[11:17] <josh__> ^^
[11:18] <favro> josh__: libgl isn't a package, just a library
[11:19] <favro> !find libgl
[11:19] <josh__> ^^
[11:19] <favro> josh__: you need to install restricted modules
[11:19] <josh__> ^^
[11:19] <josh__> how
[11:19] <josh__> hwo
[11:19] <josh__> how
[11:19] <josh__> ^^
[11:20] <josh__> speak more of this wisdom please
[11:20] <favro> josh__: search in adept to find the ones that match your kernel number
[11:20] <josh__> btw does the Kubuntu Broswer stink?
[11:21] <josh__> everything complains about it
[11:21] <josh__> being compatible
[11:21] <favro> uname -r   in konsole to find kernel num
[11:21] <josh__> 2.6.24-19-generic
[11:22] <Anubis1> hi guys . i'm trying to run kubuntu installed inside of windows (wubi) but when i reboot computer and select kubuntu it give me error 15
[11:22] <x_friend_of_wind> hello,is there some italian here?
[11:22] <Anubis1> it seems it can not find the menu.lst from grub
[11:23] <Anubis1> how can i resolve this ?
[11:23] <emilsedgh_> !it | x_friend_of_wind
[11:23] <x_friend_of_wind> thank's
[11:23] <x_friend_of_wind> *____________*
[11:24] <x_friend_of_wind> Alla prossima!!! Un Saluto Kriminale a tutto il Canale!!! By [Wµî†€ K®î(v)¡ñå£]™ [§©®îÞ¯|¯]
[11:24] <favro> josh__: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24-19
[11:25] <josh__> i got
[11:25] <josh__> ones that say
[11:25] <josh__> generic
[11:25] <josh__> openvz
[11:25] <josh__> rt
[11:25] <josh__> server
[11:25] <josh__> xen
[11:26] <josh__> its linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24-19 + those tags
[11:26] <josh__> desisions desisions...
[11:26] <josh__> what should i do?
[11:26] <dvoideee> in wich package is krandr
[11:26] <josh__> favro,
[11:27] <favro> josh__: ping
[11:28] <josh__> favro
[11:28] <josh__> i got a bunch of options man
[11:28] <josh__> generic
[11:28] <josh__> openvz
[11:28] <josh__> rt,server,xen
[11:28] <favro> the restricted modules don't have the mesa drivers like I thought
[11:28] <josh__> idk what ones i should install
[11:28] <josh__> ^^
[11:29] <Anubis1> so , anyone?
[11:29] <favro> josh__: what's the vid card?
[11:30] <josh__> favro, 9800 GTX
[11:32] <favro> josh__: tried the restricted drivers?
[11:33] <favro> where are you at with this?
[11:33] <andreas_> hello. does anybody now how to deny webapplets (fileuppload to google or something else) to browse the hole file system?
[11:33] <josh__> hmm
[11:34] <josh__> man, things seem to be working out good
[11:34] <josh__> =O
[11:34] <josh__> firefox fixxed my problem
[11:34] <josh__> on the interwebs
[11:34] <favro> :)
[11:34] <josh__> i just wish i could make open audio my
[11:34] <josh__> default
[11:34] <josh__> audio
[11:34] <josh__> or make my USB headsets my default
[11:34] <favro> !enter | josh
[11:34] <josh__> because i also have onboard audio
[11:34] <josh__> sorry, lol
[11:35] <favro> disable the onboard in the bios josh__
[11:35] <josh__> thats not an option tho...
[11:35] <favro> k
[11:35] <josh__> i mean i duel boot
[11:35] <josh__> so
[11:36] <josh__> hmm this could fix my Mic issues
[11:36] <josh__> i guess i will disable for now...
[11:36] <favro> yep - right click on the sound icon give you a choice for which audio h/ware
[11:37] <josh__> ight thx Kubuntu FTW! best OS Ever so fast man its insane windows xp is slow compared to this
[11:43] <b1nar10> hola a todos
[11:43] <b1nar10> hi everyone
[11:53] <JohnFlux_> hey all
[11:58] <rusidi> hei all
[11:59] <rusidi> magrib yuk
[12:05] <Flashy> since I get autokicked from #wine can anyone tell me how to see .wine/c_drive/ in dolphin?
[12:06] <MPat> Flashy, wiev show hidden files and then in home you can find it
[12:07] <Flashy> thanks
[12:09] <RurouniJones> Invite only channel?!
[12:09] <RurouniJones> That can't be the official channel then, can it?
[12:09] <RurouniJones> #winehq
[12:09] <RurouniJones> Thats it Flashy
[12:10] <Flashy> thanks
[12:23] <gstaniak> hi
[12:23] <gstaniak> how do i check/change mac address of an ethernet card in kubuntu?
[12:27] <rusidi> yup
[12:55] <TimS> I am trying to set up qt4, where is the default install location? I am trying to set up the PATH variable, I think it should be /usr/share/qt4/bin, is that right?
[12:57] <favro> TimS: type   $PATH   in konsole to check :)
[12:57] <TimS> bash: /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games: No such file or directory
[12:58] <favro> TimS: anywhere except /usr/games
[12:59] <TimS> Eh?
[12:59] <TimS> I am following the qt guide, and PATH needs to point to the qt4 installation, or am I getting confused?
[12:59] <favro> /usr/games: No such file or directory - most apps go in /usr/bin - or a soft link does
[13:01] <favro> TimS: try this - sudo ln -s /usr/share/qt4/bin /usr/bin/"what qt4 wants"
[13:01] <TimS> I am not trying to link qt4 to anywhere.
[13:02] <TimS> No, I am trying to set up the PATH variable in bashs .profile
[13:02] <favro> in bash
[13:03] <TimS> Okay, I ran it and it works.
[13:03] <TimS> So, it is now at /usr/bin/qt4 correct?
[13:04] <TimS> Okay, awesome. I gotta go have some lunch now, back in a bit.
[13:05] <favro> TimS: the "what qt4 wants" bit is all you need to type in konsole as it is in your path now :)
[13:07] <aletinel22944> Hi all, I've got a problem with my intel 3945 ABG wireless card. I'am able to scan for networks but not to connect, that happends under kubuntu hardy, with gusty everything was working perfectly! Any help? Plese...
[13:21] <blackflag> hello all :) I want o use udma 4 for a hd, now its using udma3. How can I change this?
[13:22] <blackflag> when I do hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc the desktop freezing and I get segmantation fault
[13:22] <blackflag> what is wrong?
[13:22] <blackflag> Can someone help?
[13:28] <blackflag> okay, found it: hdparm -X68 /dev/hdc
[13:37] <adz21c> hi, I have a webcam and a TV tuner card. When I boot up they seem to alternate between /dev/video1 and /dev/video0, which can get a bit annoying when using TV time and every so often I have to change the device from video0 to video1 to get the tv tuner. Any ideas how I might make them use specific /dev's?
[13:53] <koala_man> how do I get kpowersave to not turn off the display when I close the lid?
[13:54] <RurouniJones> hoi all, I have reinstalled wine on kubuntu using apt-get and now when I install programs they are not appearing in the kubuntu start-bar (for want of a better word). How can I get this working again?
[13:54] <koala_man> I tried disabling display power management, but it still does it
[13:57] <mudit_> hi
[14:00] <Nyad> Hi, how do I install the 32bit version of kafeine? I'm using amd64 version but I only have 32bit codecs for realmedia files coz the 64bit ones are dodgey
[14:09] <Nyad>  Hi, how do I install the 32bit version of kafeine?
[14:09] <tt5786> can some one help me with how to copy files in the file system
[14:09] <Nyad> I am using 64bit kubuntu
[14:09] <sFEARs> having some trouble connecting wirelessly thru knetwork manager, can anyone give me any ideas on how to fix?
[14:09] <Nyad> tt5786, sure
[14:09] <tt5786> how do you do it
[14:09] <tt5786> i have no idear
[14:09] <RurouniJones> sFEARs: you will need to give more details about what is happening other no one will be able to help
[14:09] <Nyad> to your home folder or somewhere in the root path
[14:09] <Nyad> ?
[14:10] <tt5786> from /etc/... to /var/www
[14:10] <tt5786> lets say
[14:10] <RurouniJones> GUI or command line?
[14:11] <tt5786> gui will be better
[14:11] <jonnor> drag and drop baby?
[14:11] <tt5786> lol tryed that dont do nothing
[14:11] <RurouniJones> open up both paths in konqueror or dolphin then drag and drop
[14:11] <jonnor> just as in windooze or whatnot
[14:11] <RurouniJones> make sure you have permission to edit both locations
[14:11] <Nyad> he needs root privelages
[14:11] <sFEARs> i had some problems while updating, i usually use gdm and am having some problems booting into it. i'm not booting sucessfully into Kdm and usually can right click on the knetwork manager icon and a list of available wireless networks pops up, it's not doing that now, it just shows my eth0, wlan0, & wlan1
[14:11] <jonnor> open your filebrowser as root
[14:12] <tt5786> how do i do that
[14:12] <sFEARs> i'm now* booting sucessfully into kdm
[14:12] <jonnor> alt + f2, then type kdesu dolphin
[14:12] <tt5786> im using ubuntu
[14:12] <jonnor> that gives you temporary root "superuser" access
[14:12] <jonnor> then type gksu nautilus
[14:13] <adz21c> hi, I have a webcam and a TV tuner card. When I boot up they seem to alternate between /dev/video1 and /dev/video0, which can get a bit annoying when using TV time and every so often I have to change the device from video0 to video1 to get the tv tuner. Any ideas how I might make them use specific /dev's? I also have the same problem with my cd drives, they keep switching betwen scd0 and scd1.
[14:13] <l3x> how to fix this: i tried compiling some package, and it said: c compiler cannot make executables...
[14:14] <tt5786> thanks
[14:14] <jonnor> you progably need superuser/root access l3x
[14:14] <jonnor> is it the make install step that fails?
[14:14] <l3x> jonnor: thanks
[14:14] <sFEARs> when i try to use the ifup wlan1 command it tells me ingnoring unknown device wlan1. ???
[14:15] <jonnor> wlan1 is not usually not a device in linux? :p
[14:15] <jonnor> its usually eth1 or ath1 (why the hell is there two different, I dont know?)
[14:15] <tt5786> ok next question i want to use phpmyadmin how do i do that
[14:16] <jonnor> do you have it installed?
[14:16] <sFEARs> i've never heard of ath1
[14:16] <tt5786> yes its installed to /etc/phpmyadmin and there is also php5 installed
[14:17] <jonnor> is your webserver running? (apache or whatnot)
[14:17] <tt5786> thats what i am trying to do
[14:17] <tt5786> i installed apache through that installer thing
[14:18] <jonnor> then its probably allready running
[14:18] <tt5786> how do i access it
[14:18] <sFEARs> i could use some help connecting, anybody know a few troubleshooting steps i could try?
[14:18] <jonnor> be sure that its running first
[14:18] <tt5786> how so
[14:19] <jonnor> check with Ksysmonitor
[14:19] <RurouniJones> Hi all, I have reinstalled wine using apt-get and it appears to have broken the integration with KDE somewhat. Applications installed are no longer added to the start-bar. The winecfg interface is de-skinned and I can't save any changes. Any ideas how I can get it re-integrated?
[14:19] <tt5786> ok remember i am using ubuntu
[14:19] <jonnor> oh, I dont recall the name of the task-manager there
[14:19] <jonnor> but it should be under System somewhere
[14:19] <tt5786> system moniter
[14:20] <jonnor> thats probably it
[14:20] <jonnor> check if apache2 is running
[14:20] <tt5786> ok what do i need to find ther
[14:20] <tt5786> its not in there
[14:20] <jonnor> btw, whats the CLI command for listing processes ? anyone?
[14:20] <RurouniJones> you do realise this is #kubuntu, not #ubuntu , if you are having trouble with ubuntu you should really go there
[14:21] <RurouniJones> jonnor ps
[14:21] <RurouniJones> ps aux for all processes
[14:21] <RurouniJones> top for an interactive list
[14:21] <tt5786> i went to the ubuntu room and no one will help
[14:21] <jonnor> its not a ubuntu spesific problem, so might as well do it here
[14:21] <tt5786> thanks jonnor
[14:22] <RurouniJones> well, the drag and drop not working could well be, but I digress.
[14:23] <jonnor> I think he got that figured out tho...
[14:23] <tt5786> so how do i start the apatchi running
[14:23] <tt5786> yes that i did
[14:23] <jonnor> I think you need to log out and in
[14:23] <jonnor> cause apache is run under another user
[14:23] <tt5786> ok hold on
[14:24] <tt5786> i am restarting
[14:24] <jonnor> might even need to reboot
[14:24] <fanel> somebody could fix the sound in Kubuntu?
[14:24] <jonnor> im not so sure tho
[14:24] <tt5786> its cool
[14:25] <jonnor> the sound is working in Kubuntu :P (at least in mine)
[14:25] <tt5786> my sound works
[14:25] <jonnor> but if you want help fanel  you would need to describe it more :P
[14:25] <fanel> ok
[14:26] <fanel> in fact I have installes ubuntu on a laptop toshiba ii]
[14:26] <tt5786> ok loged back in not running
[14:26] <RurouniJones> tt5786: To see if apache is running go to the command line and type->     ps aux | grep httpd
[14:26] <RurouniJones> or maybe grep apache
[14:27] <fanel> l30-10x
[14:27] <jonnor> and youre sure that you installed it properly tt5786 ?
[14:27] <fanel> I used an original Cd
[14:28] <jonnor> if so youre gonna have to check the deamon/services listing
[14:28] <fanel> stiil I vahe got no sound
[14:28] <jonnor> and thats ubuntu/gnome spesific
[14:28] <tt5786> o got lots of info
[14:28] <tt5786> yea i used the package installer thing and it installed everything
[14:28] <fanel> I use KDE right now
[14:30] <tt5786> if i load http://localhost
[14:30] <tt5786> it works
[14:30] <fanel> so,jonnor,please tell me what should I do,what should I check?
[14:30] <RurouniJones> Then it is running
[14:30] <tt5786> ok but then why can i not access phpmyadmin
[14:31] <RurouniJones> because that is a whole different kettle of fish in terms of setup
[14:31] <RurouniJones> which is probably beyond a general OS help channel like this
[14:31] <tt5786> ok well then how do i do that
[14:31] <tt5786> lol
[14:31] <jonnor> fanel: first of all you should check this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[14:32] <jonnor> and google the name of your laptop + kubuntu (or ubuntu) sound problem
[14:32] <fanel> ok,thanks
[14:34] <RurouniJones> tt5786: Why do you want phpmyadmin anyway? Is this a server you are setting up or a home machine?
[14:51] <sFEARs> i can't connect with knetworkmanager, anybody know a few troubleshooting steps i could try?
[15:05] <Bauldrick> sFEARs: probably won't help you, but I switched to wicd that seems to work for me better than knetworkmanager
[15:06] <boritek> hello
[15:07] <boritek> how can i make mousewheel scrolling work man and less commands in Konsole ??
[15:07] <boritek> mouse scrolling work in gnome-terminal but not in Konsole
[15:07] <Glady> someone knows where I can see my queue of file waiting to be printed?
[15:07] <boritek> in man and less
[15:08] <boritek> Glady, i use ubuntu but i think you also should have an icon on the panel
[15:08] <boritek> while printing
[15:09] <Glady> an icon
[15:09] <Glady> where
[15:09] <Bauldrick> Glady: you could try http://127.0.0.1:631/  ?
[15:09] <Glady> what u mean
[15:10] <boritek> Glady, well i am not sure, coz i use ubuntu but there if i print something there will be an icon on the gnome-panel
[15:12] <BluesKaj> !grub
[15:13] <Glady> nice tool
[15:13] <Glady> tnkx
[15:19] <Glady> what is the command to list the system spec ; lsmh?
[15:20] <boritek> most basic is: uname -a
[15:23] <blackflag> can someone tell me how I can reconfigure xsserver? When I do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg I m not able to choos a grafic- card or monitor?
[15:24] <blackflag> where is it gone? Are there new way to configure xserver under hardy?
[15:24] <baudthief> just installed kubuntu on my laptop, are there any tools like nvidia-config for ati/fglrx?
[15:25] <baudthief> need to enable VSYNC/VBlank
[15:26] <RurouniJones> baudthief: First you should install the nVidia binary drivers
[15:27] <Joel123> Hi, after inserting my television into my computer and selecting "clone picture" in the graphics options my ubuntucomputer only boots with terminal and not with the "graphic interface" how do I fix this?
[15:27] <baudthief> RurouniJones: You misunderstood, I have an ATi card in this laptop
[15:27] <RurouniJones> oh right
[15:30] <BluesKaj> blackflag, yes the hardy reconfigure xserver-xorg procedure has changed from previous releases . There are fewer options to choose from for res/graphics and monitor settings than before.There may be an explanation as to why but i haven't seen one or any reasoning behind the changes
[15:35] <blackflag> hmm, I googled about that. Can also dont find a reason what it happens, sorry that I have to say it: sh..!
[15:36] <ubuntu_> Hello
[15:36] <ubuntu_> everyone
[15:36] <ubuntu_> Im trying to install kubuntu
[15:36] <ubuntu_> Im in the live desktop right now
[15:36] <ubuntu_> but the partition managed hangs
[15:36] <ubuntu_> at 50%
[15:36] <blackflag> and nothing what to do about it, there a hints for nv users, what is with the rest?
[15:37] <ubuntu_> any idea ??
[15:45] <KRF> ubuntu_, restart, retry :(
[15:48] <see-g> ubuntu_: the partition manager of the alternate installation disc seems to perform better than the one on the live disc (might only be the front-end, though). There's no using the box during installation then, though
[15:49] <blackflag> xserver comments: http://www.fsfe.org/en/fellows/gerloff/blog/why_did_you_castrate_xserver_xorg
[15:49] <jabba_> i just looked at the "ubottu" help document for wifi, but it does not work in KDE
[15:49] <jabba_> we do not have system > admin > network
[15:50] <jabba_> i'm trying to get my computer to join a wireless network and i don't know whihch tool to use
[15:50] <concernedcitizen> kNetworkManager
[15:50] <jabba_> concernedcitizen: yes but how do i get this to run? i don't see it in the menu anywhere
[15:51] <concernedcitizen> Its under "Internet"
[15:52] <jabba_> "under internet"??
[15:52] <blackflag> hmm, where can I go to beef about the xserver configuration?
[15:53] <jabba_> blackflag: there's an xorg channel on freenode, but that's not quite the right attitude :)
[15:54] <blackflag> I ll go to the ubuntu xserver maintainer....
[15:56] <blackflag> yes, the attitude is not correct in the moment, cause Im angry about that. Im asuming such things at M$, not here...
[15:56] <jabba_> concernedcitizen: where do i find what you're referring to
[15:57] <jabba_> blackflag: your attitude about "M$" is pretty bad too.
[15:57] <blackflag> no, thats not
[15:57] <jabba_> blackflag: free software is not written to make your life easier.
[15:58] <blackflag> you are not correct, free software is to make my life easier, caue Linux is comfortable!
[15:58] <concernedcitizen> hit your KDE button, under "Internet"
[15:58] <blackflag> ANd the xserver configuration is in the moment not
[15:58] <jabba_> !ot
[15:59] <blackflag> this is a kubuntu issue!
[15:59] <jabba_> concernedcitizen: under my "kde button," i do not have an "inernet"
[15:59] <jabba_> +t
[15:59] <concernedcitizen> then just launch it from konsole
[16:00] <jabba_> yeah that's the problem. when i run it from the console, it just returns without doing anything
[16:00] <jabba_> foo% knetworkmanager
[16:01] <jabba_> foo%
[16:05] <concernedcitizen> look at your systray
[16:08] <jabba_> okay i see two connections
[16:08] <jabba_> er i don't
[16:08] <jabba_> i see two copies of the same connection
[16:08] <acke> heya whats the easiest way to share files from kubuntu? smb, ftp, other?
[16:09] <acke> its a temp solution
[16:09] <jabba_> acke: depends on who you're sharing them to
[16:09] <jabba_> acke: i prefer smb for most stuff  but if you can use scp it's a lot better
[16:09] <acke> windows machine on local network
[16:09] <jabba_> (or sftp...)
[16:09] <jabba_> acke: just use smb
[16:10] <acke> jabba_ k. any good smb apps for configuring smb?
[16:10] <Glady> !ark
[16:16] <ZZ1> hi, can someone show me how to change screen resolution in kubuntu?   It's stuck in low graphics mode
[16:16] <ZZ1> there doesn't seem to be a gui option
[16:18] <starenka> ZZ1: kmenu -> system settings -> monitor & display
[16:19] <ZZ1> there is no ﻿monitor & display option when I do this
[16:21] <acke> anyone used swat?
[16:23] <starenka> ZZ1: hmm, than smthng must be wrong then ...
[16:24] <starenka> ZZ1: u sure u don't have the advanced tab on?
[16:28] <ZZ1> ﻿starenka: no advanced tab
[16:32] <starenka> ZZ1: sry, m8 been away (cigarette)
[16:32] <starenka> ZZ1: http://crap.starenka.net/dktp.png
[16:32] <starenka> ZZ1: nothing like this at all?
[16:33] <acke> i set up samba, with guest ok=yes but when i go to the ip. it asks for username and password. i tried using my regular one.. but that didnt work, what to do?
[16:34] <ZZ1> yes but no option for monitor
[16:36] <starenka> ZZ1: you can change the resolution in Xorg config files then... but it seems something is wrong with the video card detection, cause you should normally have the option in system settings
[16:44] <Nyad>  Hi, I am using amd64 kubuntu, how do I install the 32bit version of kafeine?
[16:45] <GuidMorrow> I have an ATI TV-Wonder VE installed in this machine that's running Kubuntu 8.04, are there device drivers for it?
[16:47] <abby87> GuidMorrow: http://www.linuxlogin.com/hardware/ati_tv.php
[16:48] <vera> ...
[16:49] <vera> dfaf
[16:50] <abby87> vera: ur keyboard is running fine i guess
[16:50] <vera> guess?
[16:50] <starenka> :)
[16:51] <weteran> türkçe bilen ?
[16:51] <abby87> vera: 0r mebbe u r in need of localization?
[16:51] <vera> uff
[16:52] <abby87> !help
[16:52] <vera> what is this?
[16:52] <abby87> !tell
[16:53] <benbread> Hey i'm running kubuntu with latest updates but ever since my laptop shutdown uncleanly i cannot get my Atheros wireless card to work - error "wifi%d: unable to attach hardware: 'Hardware revision not supported' (HAL status 13)", the prop. driver is installed and "in use" but there is no ath0 device when running "iwconfig"
[16:53] <abby87> benbread: iwlist scan
[16:54] <abby87> benbread: is the driver using ndiswrapper?
[16:54] <vera> what are you talking about?
[16:54] <GuidMorrow> I really don't see any hardware drivers on there, and Adept Manager can't find the package
[16:55] <abby87> vera: no u were typing dfaf an uff and stuff that's y
[16:55] <benbread> abby87: iwlist scan reports only lo and eth0 - the driver i believe uses madwifi
[16:55] <abby87> benbread: ur eth0 is there
[16:56] <abby87> but its not working is it?
[16:57] <abby87> benbread: no experience on madwifi
[16:57] <benbread> abby87: The wifi device is usually listed as "ath0"
[16:57] <abby87> benbread: ooh
[16:59] <abby87> benbread: hmmdo u dual boot? any other os on the same m/c?
[17:04] <shadowhywind> anyone know why i can't join the openvpn channel.. i keep getting You need to be identified to join that channel
[17:05] <gabrieldain> shadowhywind: your nick is registered and you havent identified with NickServ
[17:05] <gabrieldain> msg NickServ help for more info
[17:05] <The-Compiler> shadowhywind: You've registered but you haven't checked your mail
[17:06] <shadowhywind> hehe thanks.. i didn't think i would get an email
[17:06] <The-Compiler> shadowhywind: so simply execute the command you got in the mail and identify, then you should be able to join
[17:07] <shadowhywind> thanks so much
[17:07] <shadowhywind> maybe you guys will know.. I am looking for a way to manually set an IP address for my tap0 device for openvpn. any ideas?
[17:13] <GuidMorrow> I need that TV-Wonder VE driver... Am I gonna have to get MythTV
[17:16] <draik> How do I use the firefox binary from mozilla.org?
[17:17] <The-Compiler> draik: why do you wanna use it?
[17:17] <draik> The-Compiler: Issues with the currently installed (repo) firefox.
[17:22] <azure> hi
[17:23] <azure> does anyone know about a program that can search for regular expressions in log files  and dump them in a new file ?
[17:24] <KRF> azure, egrep <regexp> file > newfile
[17:26] <azure> the problem with egrep is that if i am using log file with a lot of Errors , the Errors has a stacktrace
[17:26] <azure> but all i see is the first row from it
[17:27] <azure> and i need the whole stacktrace so i can compare it to the previous one
[17:27] <azure> the idea is to find unique Errors
[17:29] <KRF>  -A NUM, --after-context=NUM
[17:29] <KRF> azure ^
[17:29] <KRF> man egrep
[17:43] <draik> How do I use the firefox binary from mozilla.org?
[17:55] <BenPA> hi all ... I want to create a separate partition and put my /home directory in it (should have done this first) how should I copy my home directory (including hidden files and directories) into and have only it be used?
[17:55] <leon> hey
[17:57] <lgdmz> i hav a problem with the flash i want to see a video in youtube but its say that i need a version of flash but i download already and still saying the same thing
[17:58] <lgdmz> can someone help me?
[17:59] <aanderse> where did you download flash from and what web browser
[17:59] <Assurbanipal> can someone plz tell me where the program executable files are stored?
[17:59] <BenPA> I asked first lol
[17:59] <aanderse> Assurbanipal: several locations, /usr/bin , /bin, /usr/local/bin
[18:00] <BenPA> hi all ... I want to create a separate partition and put my /home directory in it (should have done this first) how should I copy my home directory (including hidden files and directories) into and have only it be used?
[18:00] <Assurbanipal> aanderse, because when i try to open a file from mozilla i must assosiate it with the prog...
[18:00] <Assurbanipal> aanderse, like with pdf files for example
[18:00] <aanderse> Assurbanipal: what pdf viewer do you use?
[18:01] <Assurbanipal> the default in kde 4...
[18:01] <aanderse> BenPA: have you created the new home partition yet?
[18:01] <Assurbanipal> aanderse, which is called okular
[18:01] <BenPA> no, but I know how to do that
[18:02] <lgdmz> well i download the flash of the pag that youyube send me
[18:03] <Assurbanipal> aanderse, where do i find it to associate it? and is there another way instead of doing all that every time i need to open a file through mozilla?
[18:03] <aanderse> Assurbanipal: iceweasel just opened them for me.... weird. until someone gives you a better solution you can just tell it /usr/bin/okular
[18:03] <BenPA> aanderse: I was concerned as to how to copy or move the old directory to the new partition
[18:04] <lgdmz> of what pag i can download the flash? to see videos of youtube?
[18:04] <aanderse> lgdmz: try installing flash from ubuntu's package manager
[18:04] <aanderse> lgdmz: you could open a terminal and type "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree"
[18:05] <aanderse> that would give you flash
[18:06] <aanderse> BenPA: i guess i would recommend creating the partition now
[18:06] <Assurbanipal> aanderse, i cannot find okular in /usr/bin folder
[18:06] <aanderse> Assurbanipal: type in konsole "whereis okular"
[18:06] <lgdmz> dont want i put that but dont do nothing
[18:06] <aanderse> lgdmz: what?
[18:07] <aanderse> BenPA: anywho, make the extra partition, but don't mount it as /home yet
[18:07] <BenPA> aanderse: I also read somewhere that it was a good idea to create a separate /var also ... is this true
[18:07] <BenPA> aanderse: ok
[18:07] <aanderse> BenPA: after you create the ext3 partition, mount it somewhere like /mnt/temp, then do a full copy
[18:07] <Assurbanipal> aanderse, i got nothing back! the reply was: okular:
[18:07] <aanderse> BenPA: i'd probably recommend backing up your data too, if you don't know what you're doing you could get in some trouble
[18:08] <BenPA> aanderse: that is my question ... how do I copy so that the hidden files and such are also copied
[18:08] <aanderse> BenPA: after you copy all of the data over, you should be able to edit /etc/fstab and add the new partition to have /home as a mount point
[18:08] <merike> hi, how can one find out recently applied updates?
[18:08] <aanderse> BenPA: i assume a simple cp -R /home/ /mnt/tmp would suffice
[18:09] <aanderse> Assurbanipal: do you have okular installed?
[18:09] <Assurbanipal> aanderse, it is in my start menu and i run it!
[18:10] <aanderse> Assurbanipal: open up dolphin/konqueror and go to /usr/share/applications/kde4
[18:10] <starenka> Assurbanipal: should be in /usr/lib/kde4/bin/okular
[18:11] <BenPA> aanderse: under cp it says -a is the same as dpR ... should I use that instead?
[18:12] <aanderse> BenPA: well let's man it :)
[18:12] <aanderse> -a, --archive
[18:12] <BenPA> aanderse: yes
[18:12] <BenPA> should I use that instead?
[18:12] <aanderse> did you want to archive it?
[18:13] <BenPA> should I am not sure what the difference is
[18:13] <Assurbanipal> starenka, ok tnx!! it worked! but how can i avoid looking for the files every single time i need to open something in every possible folder??
[18:13] <BenPA> should I just want to make sure it is an exact copy
[18:14] <Assurbanipal> starenka, and why the whereis okular returned nothing?
[18:14] <BenPA> aanderse: I just want to make sure everything is copied correctly
[18:14] <starenka> Assurbanipal: try locate okular
[18:15] <aanderse> BenPA: i'd just recommend doing a cp -R /home /mnt/tmp and then do a few simple checks once it's done to assure yourself
[18:15] <BenPA> ok, let me partition and be right back
[18:15] <starenka> Assurbanipal: just rightclick pdf file -> open with -> write the path in the input field and check smthng like "remember" and it will work forever
[18:16] <Assurbanipal> starenka, ok that worked! i ment how will it work if i don;t know the path of the app
[18:16] <starenka> Assurbanipal: i don't get the question m8.. if you're running it from konsole u can use smthng like autocompleter - its on ur tab ey
[18:16] <starenka> Assurbanipal: tab key
[18:17] <starenka> Assurbanipal: just write couple letters and hit tab key
[18:17] <starenka> Assurbanipal: you can set up an alias if you want
[18:19] <starenka> Assurbanipal: echo 'alias okular = "/usr/lib/kde4/bin/okular" >> ~/.bashrc
[18:19] <starenka> Assurbanipal: and then just write okular <file>
[18:20] <aanderse> starenka: is there a benefit to alias'ing it as opposed to creating a symlink in /usr/bin ?
[18:20] <Assurbanipal> starenka, when you try to open a specific file for the first time through mozilla, it asks for the aplication to open it with and i must browse to it through mozilla. what i ask is "how do somebody avoid looking to all possible locations for the app?"
[18:20] <starenka> aanderse: no :))
[18:20] <aanderse> starenka: ok, i just asked because i never worked with alias's much, thanks
[18:21] <starenka> aanderse: i guess alias is smarter solution
[18:22] <aanderse> starenka: for a multi-user system a symlink would be better though, correct?
[18:22] <starenka> Assurbanipal: oh. i thought you're opening it from dolhpin or such..
[18:22] <starenka> aanderse: 100p correct
[18:22] <aanderse> k
[18:23] <Assurbanipal> starenka, no m8, it must be opened through mozilla... and that is a problem because of the variety of locations used to store programs
[18:23] <starenka> Assurbanipal: ooo.. i dont use firefox... it doesnt remember the associations?
[18:23] <starenka> Assurbanipal: lemme see
[18:23] <Assurbanipal> starenka, it does remeber, but u have to do it for the first time for all possible file types
[18:24] <starenka> Assurbanipal: shame for firefox then... Opera uses system default associations
[18:24] <starenka> Assurbanipal: or at least it seems like that
[18:25] <Assurbanipal> starenka, is there a work around for that?
[18:26] <starenka> Assurbanipal: i dont, i'm afraid.. you can set those in preferences->applications, but it seems it adds more while using.. it just don't reads the system default ones :(
[18:27] <Assurbanipal> starenka, tnx for your help !
[18:27] <Kage_Jittai> how can I reset my sound settings to the default
[18:28] <starenka> Assurbanipal: hehe. for what? hey try to check this out http://www.terminaldigit.com/2008/08/08/get-firefox-to-honor-kde-file-associations/
[18:28] <Kage_Jittai> my mic worked two days ago and now its not working cause I messed something up
[18:28] <Kage_Jittai> and can't get it fixed
[18:28] <starenka> Assurbanipal: smart soulution i guess :))
[18:29] <starenka> Assurbanipal: *smart
[18:29] <starenka> Assurbanipal: fok! * solution
[18:30] <Assurbanipal> starenka, looks great! but how do i make a script :P????
[18:31] <starenka> Assurbanipal: run kate
[18:32] <lgdmz> do someone here is from dominican republic????
[18:33] <lgdmz> ?????????????
[18:36] <EagleSn> lgdmz whay do u want someone from there
[18:37] <EagleSn> lgdmz puedes visitar #kubuntu-es para hablar en español, si es eso lo que quieres
[18:38] <Kage_Jittai> haha fixed it :P
[18:38] <lgdmz> kisiera una relacionado con ubuntu
[18:39] <EagleSn> perdon,. me ocnfundi, prueba en #ubuntu-es
[18:39] <lgdmz> grxx
[18:44] <draik> How do I use the firefox binary from mozilla.org?
[18:45] <EagleSn> hi draik
[18:45] <EagleSn> extract the package
[18:45] <draik> EagleSn: Hi
[18:45] <EagleSn> and run the binary
[18:46] <_2> anyone know how to determine if a laptop has builtin mic or not ?
[18:46] <draik> EagleSn: Ok. That is what I have been doing, but I still have the same delay issue and thought I may have been doing something wrong. Thank you.
[18:47] <ubuntu_> hey there
[18:47] <EagleSn> did u downloaded a file called firefox-3.0.1-tar.bz2 isnt?
[18:47] <Etu> Hmm
[18:47] <_2> Voyager529
[18:47] <Voyager529> hey 2
[18:48] <Voyager529> mind giving me a hand?
[18:48] <Etu> Does anyone knows something about using HP Laserjet Color CP1215 in kubuntu 8.04?
[18:48] <_2> that's base two.    and just suscently define your isssue and the desired end. Voyager529
[18:49] <_2> susenctly   maybe
[18:49]  * _2 not spell squat
[18:49] <Voyager529> sorry, _2. I'm trying to get libSDL installed so that I can use xwax. It doesn't appear to be in the repositories and I'm still command line stupid.....
[18:49] <aanderse> libsdl is in the repos
[18:50] <_2> !info libsdl
[18:50] <_2> !find libsdl
[18:50] <Voyager529> *light bulb*
[18:50] <Voyager529> so would I be better off trying this in Mint?
[18:50] <aanderse> !find libsdl1.2
[18:50] <aanderse> :)
[18:53] <_2> !info {libsdl-image1.2,libsdl-sound1.2}
[18:53] <Voyager529> so basically libSDL 2.0 doesn't work in ubuntu 8.x; would it work in Linux Mint?
[18:54]  * _2 watches the bot freek out like it can't expand a simple glob  ....
[18:54] <yurimxpxman> I just accidentally overwrited a file with mv. See here <http://pastebin.com/m379aa026>. Is there any way to get this back?
[18:55] <_2> Voyager529 ah 2.0    hmm lets do a find on that first.
[18:55] <_2> !find libsdl2
[18:55] <_2> so it's source or forget it, i guess.
[18:55] <Voyager529> gotcha
[18:55]  * Voyager529 grabs MINT CD
[18:56] <Voyager529> if I'm not back, you know it worked =)
[18:56] <Voyager529> thanks for your help, base two!
[18:57] <aanderse> what's sdl2? i've never heard of that
[18:58] <_2> yurimxpxman looks like you need to retrieve both 2008-08-14.php and 2008-08-14.html from your backups.
[18:59] <grifon> =)
[18:59] <grifon> доброго вечера
[18:59] <bazhang> !ru
[19:00] <_2> yurimxpxman and you have vi opening a graphical window ???       </shutters>
[19:02] <yurimxpxman> _2: no... it's an ssh session with X forwarding enabled
[19:03] <SmokeEater85911> mornin
[19:03] <_2> yurimxpxman vi file.name yelds >>>     8. X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication.  <<< looks like vi is trying to open a graphical window to me.   what did i miss ?      or just forget i mentioned it.
[19:04] <RurouniJones> Anyone got any recommendations about hardware for a home server? preferably small, must be fanless, have 1TB and linux friendly components
[19:04] <yurimxpxman> _2: I have no idea why it said that. It's not a graphical app at all.. it's not gvim or anything
[19:06] <_2> yurimxpxman hmmm your "vi" may be a shell wraper that detects $DISPLAY and uses gvim    idk.      alias | grep vi  ;file `which vi`
[19:07] <_2> yurimxpxman at any rate.   i doubt that the overwriten file would be recoverable if you have emergency remount readonly as soon as it sync'd    and unless it's a really really important peace of work, it's not worth it to try.   hope you had backups.
[19:08] <yurimxpxman> _2: I'm trying foremost right now
[19:10] <_2> well i don't mean to discurrage but the file was not deleted, it was overwriten,  so that will most likely fail.
[19:10] <_2> !info foremost
[19:11] <_2> foremost - Recover files using their headers and footers
[19:11] <yurimxpxman> _2: well, I'm hoping that on a 750GB hdd, my remaining 300GB will provide some sort of cushion around it :)
[19:14] <_2> if, and that is always an operative word.   if you succeed,  please let me know.      i always like to hear about miracles
[19:15] <forty-seven> hi all, newbie question: what is difference between Kubuntu 8.04 and the Kubuntu 8.04 KDE4 remix??
[19:16] <SmokeEater85911> one has KDE3 one has KDS4
[19:16] <forty-seven> ahh
[19:16] <forty-seven> ok
[19:16] <SmokeEater85911> !kde3
[19:16] <forty-seven> so KDE4 it is!
[19:16] <forty-seven> :D
[19:16] <SmokeEater85911> kde 4 sucks
[19:16] <SmokeEater85911> its still new, still buggy and not quite there yet
[19:16] <SmokeEater85911> KDE3 is still fully supported and most of the kinks are worked out because of it's age
[19:16] <forty-seven> so...
[19:17] <SmokeEater85911> i'd go with KDE3
[19:17] <forty-seven> for a first timer, go with KDE3?
[19:17] <SmokeEater85911> *nod*
[19:17] <_2> !both
[19:17] <SmokeEater85911> its technically KDE3.5.9 but who's counting
[19:17] <_2> also kde4.1....  but who's counting that either
[19:17] <SmokeEater85911> exactly..
[19:18] <SmokeEater85911> forty-seven: get KDE3
[19:18] <forty-seven> roger
[19:18] <forty-seven> thanks
[19:18] <forty-seven> :D
[19:18] <SmokeEater85911> *kicks sound issue*
[19:18] <forty-seven> i was gonna use gentoo
[19:18] <stab> is it better to install KD3 than ubuntu?
[19:18] <_2> forty-seven and you can add kde4 to that and make up your own mind.
[19:18] <forty-seven> but I keep having problems with it
[19:18] <forty-seven> so I'm thinking kubuntu would be a better starting point
[19:18] <_2> stab is 9am better than 9pm ?
[19:18] <SmokeEater85911> stab its all user preference.. Ubuntu uses gnome, Kubuntu uses KDE
[19:19] <_2> stab depends on whom you ask.
[19:19] <SmokeEater85911> Im still a newb and Im loving Kubuntu
[19:19] <forty-seven> I love Konquest
[19:19] <SmokeEater85911> (id love it more if I can get my sound working)
[19:19] <forty-seven> best game ever.
[19:19] <forty-seven> :p
[19:19] <stab> Konquest?
[19:19] <forty-seven> its a KDE game
[19:19] <_2> Q.   "what do linux users do?"
[19:19] <_2> A.   "they install software."
[19:19] <stab> can kubuntu be installed with windows in dual booting?
[19:20] <SmokeEater85911> yup
[19:20] <forty-seven> yeah
[19:20] <SmokeEater85911> thats what Im doing with vista
[19:20] <stab> it is the same thing?
[19:20] <forty-seven> i got one vista pc, not my choice though
[19:20] <_2> stab dual or tripple or quad or....
[19:20] <stab> with a cd?
[19:20] <_2> yep
[19:20] <SmokeEater85911> yeah I hate vista.. im trying to move away from M$ though
[19:20] <stab> so
[19:20] <stab> I will install my new hdd as a slave
[19:21] <SmokeEater85911> you can either install a new HDD or partition your existing one
[19:21] <forty-seven> my friend installed vista and was using the pc
[19:21] <stab> delete ubuntu and then install kubunu?
[19:21] <forty-seven> eventually I'll nuke it and install several OSes
[19:21] <forty-seven> its my media PC, so I'd like to be able to run some old win 98 games
[19:21] <stab> what will my bios will do with that
[19:21] <SmokeEater85911> do youhave ubuntu on your other hdd?
[19:21] <_2> linux doesn't care what disk it's on,  doesn't care if it has a partition or not, much less if the partition is primary or not.    all that matters is that the boot loader can load the kernel/initramfs pair.
[19:22] <stab> when I boot and choose kubuntu it will go on my new hdd?
[19:22] <SmokeEater85911> thats all up to where you install it
[19:22] <stab> will have have to format my new hd with bios or with sudo?
[19:23] <_2> let the installer do that
[19:23] <stab> ?
[19:23] <_2> !ubiquity
[19:23] <stab> who is the installer?
[19:23] <_2> !info ubiquity
[19:23] <_2> that installer    ^
[19:23] <stab> I want to do it myself
[19:24] <SmokeEater85911> the installer meaning the installation program
[19:24] <_2> then you'll have to fight with ubiquity.   cause it wants to do it before it copies files....
[19:24] <stab> I can install it on a new hd not formatted and it will do it before to get installed?
[19:24] <SmokeEater85911> go to youtube there are videos how to install it
[19:24] <_2> stab yes
[19:24] <_2> stab that's what i'm saying.
[19:25] <SmokeEater85911> ugh so back to tryin to fix this crap
[19:27] <SmokeEater85911> apparently its seeing my audio card.. it just wont load it up for some reason
[19:27] <stab> and it will not affect my windows in anyway?
[19:27] <_2> stab it will ask you how you want to proceed, and give options   amongst them will be things like "manually edit the partition table"  which will let you use "qt/g/parted"  to setup any hdd you may have in the box or connected to it, the way you want it.
[19:27] <SmokeEater85911> stab: it wont effect windows at all
[19:28] <stab> ok
[19:28] <stab> and I dont want partitions
[19:28] <stab> why should I do partitions?
[19:28] <stab> if I need place for windows files?
[19:28] <_2> SmokeEater85911 it can.  depending on user input.  it can totally blot out anything on your hdd if you want/tell it too
[19:29] <SmokeEater85911> ah, I dunno I just created a separate partition and slapped it on there
[19:29] <SmokeEater85911> Im gonna buy a 120gb hdd just for linux, and so that way they arent even "touching" eachother
[19:30] <stab> I just have to stay in my new G disk and dont touch my C
[19:30] <_2> stab you probably want one partition.   most people find it easiest to use the installer if you have at least one partition.
[19:30] <SmokeEater85911> granted Ill have to do a fresh install =(
[19:30] <stab> ok
[19:30] <stab> one partition
[19:30] <stab> could I have ubuntu in my C and kubuntu in my G for a while?
[19:31] <adz21c> hi, I have a webcam and a TV tuner card. When I boot up they seem to alternate between /dev/video1 and /dev/video0, which can get a bit annoying when using TV time and every so often I have to change the device from video0 to video1 to get the tv tuner. Any ideas how I might make them use specific /dev's? I also have the same problem with my cd drives, they keep switching betwen scd0 and scd1.
[19:31] <agencia01> saofrancisco
[19:31] <_2> stab before you proceed with only one partition,  may i ask if you have though of some of the advantages of having your home on a seperate fs from the system ?
[19:31] <agencia01> agsaofrancisco
[19:31] <_2> stab C and G ???   C and G what ?
[19:31] <SmokeEater85911> !audio
[19:32] <SmokeEater85911> hmm
[19:32] <stab> separeta file system from home?
[19:32] <stab> my hdds
[19:32] <stab> in case it wont work with my new one
[19:32] <stab> to find solution in ubuntu
[19:32] <_2> stab and ubuntu is ubuntu is ubuntu.   you can have as many desktops on a linux system as you want.
[19:32] <SmokeEater85911> i think Im just missing something here
[19:32] <BenPA> aanderse: are you there
[19:33] <stab> what u mean by fs?
[19:33] <_2> fs=file system
[19:33] <SmokeEater85911> i can detect my sound card in the shell, but the system wont detect it
[19:33] <stab> you mean I could make more partitions and ?
[19:34] <stab> have file system separate  from what?
[19:34] <stab> dont complicate it too much I will do it explose
[19:34] <aanderse> BenPA: yeah what's up?
[19:34] <_2> stab the root filesystem  / is all that is required, but if you have a second fs /home  then if you "need" to reinstall you don't lose anything in /home  only the system is reinstalled.
[19:34] <stab> I think i should read on partitions
[19:35] <stab> ah ok
[19:35] <_2> it's a common practice for linux users to seperate their system into chuncks that way.
[19:35] <stab> like keeping all my documets and settings in windows?
[19:35] <_2> stab sort of  yeah
[19:36] <stab> I could have them always seperate than I could reinstall anynew version easily?
[19:36] <_2> stab more like having them on a seperate disk.     but yeah same idea.    and to your las question  yes.
[19:36] <_2> last
[19:37] <_2> !partitions
[19:37] <stab> I will have a menu for that?
[19:38] <stab> I m lil lost
[19:38] <_2> stab  yes in the installer.   it will allow that.     there was a sujestion to view some vidios on utube about that...
[19:38] <stab> after I reboot with my new hdd I enter in ubuntu and do those commands for the new hdd?
[19:38] <_2> stab ignore that bot post   ^  i mis que'd that one.
[19:39] <_2> !home
[19:39] <_2> that one is the one i wanted   ^
[19:39] <stab> ok so I could all format and do what i want with my empty hd with linux
[19:39] <_2> yes
[19:40] <stab> and after i reinstall what I want on it
[19:40] <mario> t
[19:40] <stab> and I delete ubuntu in my C
[19:40] <stab> at the end
[19:40] <_2> what do yo mean "I delete ubuntu in my C" ???   i'm not understanding that at all.
[19:41] <_2> C++ ?
[19:41] <_2> :)
[19:41] <fiyawerx> _2: wubi maybe?
[19:41] <stab> I want to have all my linux on my new hd
[19:41] <_2> fiyawerx i'm wondering...
[19:41] <stab> I installed ubuntu with wubi in windows
[19:41] <_2> stab yes and ?
[19:41] <fiyawerx> and now he wants to install it to it's own hd?
[19:41] <_2> oh ok   yes you can delete that file
[19:41] <stab> I want windows on C and linux on the new hd
[19:41] <moroving> какой канал для рууских
[19:42] <_2> yes you can delete that file that wubi created
[19:42] <stab> and before to delete it could I copy my Home/user in my new hd?
[19:42] <_2> yes
[19:43] <stab> ok
[19:43] <stab> and then i could install kubuntu in a separate partition
[19:43] <stab> is it correct?
[19:44] <_2> the only thing that i would have any concern about.   i'm not sure that grub will insurrect an existing grub.  you might have to manually install grub for the new installation of linux.  but that's a simple process, well documented on the wiki.
[19:45] <_2> stab yes.    i think you have a full grasp of the situation.
[19:45] <_2> !grub | as per the though on grub.
[19:45] <stab> ok and what is grup like a bios?
[19:46] <_2> grub = GRand Unified Bootloader
[19:47] <_2> no not like bios.   if you have memory as far back as windows 9x   it's like the   c:\iosys.sys and msdos.sys   that loaded windows.
[19:48] <_2> and that's not a good comparison.
[19:49] <stab> ok I will read all that before installing it anyway
[19:49] <stab> thanks
[19:49] <stab> I hope I will be able to open ubuntu after
[20:01] <john_> Hi
[20:04] <JohnTheUbuntuGuy> hello?
[20:05] <emilsedgh> !hi | JohnTheUbuntuGuy
[20:05] <JohnTheUbuntuGuy> Hi everybody
[20:06] <JohnTheUbuntuGuy> I'm happy to say after a few failed attempts I got Wubi Working and installed Jubuntu
[20:06] <JohnTheUbuntuGuy> *Kubuntu*
[20:06] <emilsedgh> JohnTheUbuntuGuy: Congratulations!
[20:07] <JohnTheUbuntuGuy> Thanks!
[20:08] <JohnTheUbuntuGuy> Cause when I booted Kubuntu the second time it went to a DOS Like windows and said BusyBox and I didn't know how to fix that
[20:08] <JohnTheUbuntuGuy> SO i did Wubi a second time and It worked
[20:11] <BenPA> aanderse: I created the new partition
[20:11] <JohnTheUbuntuGuy> I used Wubi too do Kubuntu and I had to install Wubi the second time
[20:12] <BenPA> but moving and copying the old /home to new home was confusing
[20:12] <JohnTheUbuntuGuy> I am the only one here responding
[20:13] <SmokeEater85911> how do I know if my sound system is not on mute?
[20:13] <JohnTheUbuntuGuy> It will show it on the bottom bar on the bottom right cornor where the little speaker icon is
[20:14] <JohnTheUbuntuGuy> if it is Kubuntu
[20:14] <JohnTheUbuntuGuy> Or if that's not on mute check your speakers
[20:14] <SmokeEater85911> i dont have a speaker icon there at all
[20:14] <JohnTheUbuntuGuy> Oh then you didn't install sound drivers
[20:15] <JohnTheUbuntuGuy> Or you did but hided the icon
[20:15] <SmokeEater85911> yeah because I have no sound and ive been trying to figure this out since last night
[20:16] <JohnTheUbuntuGuy> Oh that means you gotta get sound drivers
[20:16] <starenka> alsamixer?
[20:16] <JohnTheUbuntuGuy> Mine already had sound drivers installed
[20:16] <SmokeEater85911> well mine didnt i guess so..
[20:17] <SmokeEater85911> it detects my card in alsamixer
[20:17] <SmokeEater85911> Realtek ALC268
[20:17] <JohnTheUbuntuGuy> Ok
[20:17] <starenka> dont ya have it muted there?
[20:17] <JohnTheUbuntuGuy> Then you should have sound if it detects it
[20:17] <starenka> (alsamixer)
[20:18] <SmokeEater85911> doesnt say if its muted or not
[20:18] <JohnTheUbuntuGuy> Maybe the sound works because I used wubi to install Kubuntu which installs drivers
[20:18] <JohnTheUbuntuGuy> If you just installed Kubuntu regually You need drivers for it
[20:18] <SmokeEater85911> the master channel is in red though
[20:18] <SmokeEater85911> could that mean mute?
[20:18] <JohnTheUbuntuGuy> It could
[20:19] <starenka> SmokeEater85911: nope
[20:19] <SmokeEater85911> no, cant be muted, because my FN+Esc is mute and it says mute off
[20:19] <starenka> SmokeEater85911: you got white - green - red as volume highness
[20:19] <JohnTheUbuntuGuy> I don't have that icon
[20:19] <SmokeEater85911> ah, when I mute it the 00 says MM
[20:19] <JohnTheUbuntuGuy> I have sound though
[20:19] <SmokeEater85911> sooo.. why wont it play sound
[20:19] <starenka> SmokeEater85911: bingo, baby
[20:20] <starenka> SmokeEater85911: that's the question worth a penny, m8
[20:20] <SmokeEater85911> maybe I have a wrong driver?
[20:20] <JohnTheUbuntuGuy> I'm still trying to find out how to install Beryl on Kubuntu
[20:20] <SmokeEater85911> you dont
[20:20] <starenka> SmokeEater85911: dunno i got realtek alc262 and works
[20:21] <SmokeEater85911> its now compiz-fusion
[20:21] <SmokeEater85911> !compiz-fusion
[20:21] <JohnTheUbuntuGuy> I am trying to install that
[20:21] <SmokeEater85911> !beryl
[20:22] <SmokeEater85911> *kicks sound issue* damnit
[20:22] <unamanic> SmokeEater: to get the speaker Icon, you may have to manually start kmix
[20:22] <starenka> SmokeEater85911: you don't hear anything at all? i gotproblems with heaphone output tho
[20:22] <SmokeEater85911> wheres kmix?
[20:23] <SmokeEater85911> ah i got it
[20:23] <starenka> alt+f2 kmix
[20:23] <starenka> you got notebook, right?
[20:23] <SmokeEater85911> yeah
[20:23] <BenPA> can anyone help me copy and mount a new home directory to a new partition?
[20:23] <starenka> it doesn't play from speakrs ot to headhpones or at all
[20:24] <SmokeEater85911> at all
[20:24] <JohnTheUbuntuGuy> I just installed Compiz Core
[20:24] <unamanic> SmokeEater: everytime I do a fresh install I have to go in to kmix and unmute or turn up pcm and both front inputs in the mixer
[20:24] <unamanic> My sound is intel though
[20:24] <starenka> well, m8 as i said i had problems with headphones output, and i solved it with compiling alsa
[20:25] <SmokeEater85911> hmm lemme mess with kmix on sec
[20:26] <JohnTheUbuntuGuy> I had to use Kubuntu cause Ubuntu makes my computer graphics scramble
[20:26] <BenPA> can anyone help me copy and mount a new home directory to a new partition?
[20:26] <JohnTheUbuntuGuy> and my computer is Brand New
[20:26] <bastian> #kubuntude
[20:26] <bastian> !#kubuntude
[20:26] <bastian> hö
[20:26] <bastian> kubuntu german channel?
[20:26] <bastian> deam jabber
[20:27] <starenka> SmokeEater85911: try this one http://blog.starenka.net/linux/2008-04-28-nefunkcni-vystup-na-sluchatka-fujitsu-siemens-esprimo-u9200-kubuntu-804  i wrote it in czech, but all you need is are the terminal commands... it can work and if not, it wont be worse, right? :P))
[20:28] <unamanic> bastian: try #kubuntu-de
[20:28] <BenPA> can anyone help me copy and mount a new home directory to a new partition?
[20:28] <unamanic> BenPA: do you have a partition set up for it already?
[20:28] <BenPA> unarmanic: yes
[20:29] <BenPA> unamanic: yes
[20:29] <unamanic> BenPA:I don't know the GUI way to do it
[20:30] <BenPA> I rather use konsole
[20:30] <afeijo> can I run wingames thru wine?
[20:30] <BenPA> unamanic: I rather use konsole
[20:31] <starenka> BenPA: sudo mount /dev/hdax /mountpoint
[20:31] <starenka> BenPA: cp -R ~ /mountpoint
[20:32] <starenka> BenPA: after copying, mount the new partition as home in fstavb and you're done
[20:37] <SmokeEater85911> okay... so flash is locking up firefox, which locks up the system
[20:38] <SmokeEater85911> I got sound working though.. but its real quiet..
[20:41] <SmokeEater85911> hello?
[20:41] <unamanic> SmokeEater: there is a flashsupport lib that needs to be installed inorder for flash to work
[20:42] <SmokeEater85911> flash works, it just locks up lo
[20:42] <SmokeEater85911> i downloaded some flash player thing
[20:43] <unamanic> SmokeEater: That happens to me if all of the levels are not turned up in the mixer
[20:43] <unamanic> The quite sound
[20:43] <SmokeEater85911> i had everyone up it wasnt very loud
[20:44] <SmokeEater85911> my laptop has 5 speakers.. 4 and a subwoofer
[20:44] <SmokeEater85911> I dont think they are all working
[20:44] <forty-seven> omg
[20:44] <forty-seven> help
[20:44] <forty-seven> how do I get the old konquest :(
[20:44] <forty-seven> they only have konquest for KDE4
[20:44] <forty-seven> which does not work properly last I checked
[20:44] <SmokeEater85911> once I can get flash working I can play some songs and test it
[20:45] <SmokeEater85911> i need that flashplugin-nonfree right?
[20:45] <unamanic> SmokeEater:yes
[20:46] <ign0ramus> smokeeater85911: i've always had the best luck downloading the tar.gz file directly from adobe, extracting, and installing the binary
[20:46] <SmokeEater85911> I already installed the nonfree
[20:46] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: plus, you can also get Flash Beta 10, which supports wmode and V4L2 and V4L1
[20:47] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: my mistake, its and RC now
[20:47] <SmokeEater85911> a what
[20:47] <SmokeEater85911> im lookin on the adept manager
[20:47] <ign0ramus> release candidate.  it's worked out most of the bugs (most)
[20:47] <ign0ramus> http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/
[20:48] <SmokeEater85911> so download this flash10?
[20:48] <afeijo> can I run wingames thru wine?
[20:48] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: if you'd like.  it's pretty stable, and you can actually use a webcam on flash-based sites now
[20:49] <afeijo> can I run wingames thru wine?
[20:49] <SmokeEater85911> wow.. thats another thing i need to get working my built in cam but 1 thing at a time... SOUND
[20:49] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: and i've had fewer problems with Flash crashing Firefox
[20:49] <ign0ramus> afeijo: you're better off using CrossOver
[20:50] <afeijo> whats that?
[20:50] <ign0ramus> !crossover
[20:50] <SmokeEater85911> lets see if i remember how to install tar.gz files..
[20:50] <Glady> what is the problem with operamotifwrapper?
[20:51] <ign0ramus> afeijo: http://www.codeweavers.com/products/cxgames/
[20:51] <afeijo> cool, but its not free
[20:51] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: extract, open terminal and "cd" to install directory.  run "./flashplayer-installer" and follow prompts.
[20:52] <ign0ramus> afeijo: that is the best way.  you can get some games to run under wine.  what game(s) were you thinking of?
[20:52] <afeijo> civilization 4
[20:53] <ign0ramus> afeijo: http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2007/06/10/special-civilization-iv-playable-on-linux/
[20:54] <Ash-Fox> Civ 4's copy protection wrecked my DVD drive.
[20:55] <kristian_> thats stupid
[20:55] <ign0ramus> ash-fox: how is that possible?
[20:56] <SmokeEater85911> brb
[20:56] <Ash-Fox> ign0ramus, windows version of civ4 has a copy protection that does something not officially supported by standards with dvd drives to check the disc for authenticity
[20:56] <afeijo> hmmmmmm, thanks
[20:56] <acke_n> afeijo: http://frankscorner.org/ is a wickid site for games in linux, it has guides for how to set up games and applications to run in linux
[20:57] <ign0ramus> ash-fox: while i'm skeptical, if that's true, that is total BS!  Your DVD drive doesn't work at all now?
[20:58] <Ash-Fox> ign0ramus, nope. I had it replaced twice with same model under waranty, then I noticed a pattern. It was after every time I started Civ4 :P
[20:58] <ign0ramus> ash-fox: wow.  just wow.
[20:59] <Ash-Fox> I complained first to my OEM about the issue, they took about a month to get back to me (while I was continiously harassing them for a answer). Upon which they found some unsupported stuff with Civ4. I contacted the Sid company over it, they were extremely rude.
[20:59] <Ash-Fox> I never got the issue resolved.
[21:00] <ign0ramus> not surprising.  were you running it in Kubuntu or Windows?
[21:00] <SmokeEater85911> k I think the new ff10 is installed
[21:00] <Ash-Fox> Windows XP.
[21:00] <ubuntu> hej
[21:00] <SmokeEater85911> how do I know if its installed right or not?
[21:00] <Ash-Fox> Czesc ubuntu.
[21:00] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: open firefox and navigate to * about:plugins * it will tell you.
[21:01] <SmokeEater85911> awesome.. k here goes, lets see if it will crash...
[21:02] <Ash-Fox> I was told by sid meiers to go complain to the company that made their copy protection software after harassing them for a few days.
[21:02] <SmokeEater85911> hmm well its working but it is making my system lag pretty bad..
[21:02] <Ash-Fox> I can't remember what it was called now.
[21:02] <Ash-Fox> But I did, and I never managed to ever get a response from them.
[21:03] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: try another flash site (youtube, newgrounds, whatever) to make sure it's not the code on the site you're on
[21:04] <SmokeEater85911> gr.. im trying newgrounds.. so i know the site isnt messed up
[21:06] <SmokeEater85911> man FF is a piece of crap for linux
[21:06] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: maybe for your configuration, but it's fairly usable for many of us.
[21:06] <SmokeEater85911> it wont even navigate away from this site now
[21:06] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: what in particular is the problem?
[21:07] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: close firefox and reopen it, try flash site again.  if it's still a problem, uninstalling is very easy
[21:07] <SmokeEater85911> there got it to go to some other site
[21:07] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: what version of firefox are you using?
[21:07] <SmokeEater85911> k this other site im trying has flash ads on it, they are working
[21:08] <kaiserjd> does anyone know of a way to install a linux distro from an .iso onto a flash drive using kubuntu?
[21:08] <SmokeEater85911> 3.0.1
[21:08] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: ok, because as you may know the older versions had serious memory issues that would lag a system.
[21:09] <freddy_> hello
[21:10] <ign0ramus> kaiserjd: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2008/05/15/usb-kubuntu-804-persistent-install-from-linux/
[21:12] <freddy_> keiner da?
[21:12] <kaiserjd> ign0ramus: should this work for just about any live cd?
[21:12] <BenPA> unamanic: I am back
[21:13] <ign0ramus> kaiserjd: haven't tried it... this article is particular to Kubuntu 8.04, but i'm guessing other versions would be similar.  don't quote me on that, though ;)
[21:14] <MetaMorfoziS> hi all
[21:14] <kaiserjd> ok.... i'm wanting to try some other distros and don't want to go blow money on cd-rw's or waste all of my blank dvd-r's so... i'll give it a try
[21:14] <MetaMorfoziS> xrandr reports that the connected monitor's maximum resolution is 1024x768, but it's false. It's actually 1280x1024
[21:14] <MetaMorfoziS> how can i set it to the normal resolution?
[21:15] <ign0ramus> metamorfozis: have you tried * xrandr -s 1280x1024 * ?
[21:16] <MetaMorfoziS> it's an externaal monitor, so i have tried:  xrandr --output VGA --mode 1280x1024
[21:16] <MetaMorfoziS> but it says can not find mode...
[21:16] <ign0ramus> MetaMorfoziS: i think the * -s * parameter forces the resolution. not positive, though
[21:17] <SmokeEater85911> yup... crashed
[21:17] <SmokeEater85911> again
[21:17] <soniker89> .: 17: Can't open /etc/default/console-setup means?
[21:18] <SmokeEater85911> so is it firefox that keeps crashing me, or the flash plugin?
[21:18] <soniker89> mines to I got problems with flash too
[21:18] <matt_> I have a usb device that lsusb doesn't show. dmesg says new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address, but not accepting address. I tried modprobe -r ehci_hcd but can't get it to show
[21:19] <SmokeEater85911> soniker89: do you use FF?
[21:19] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: it is probably the flash plugin.  It happens to almost all of us.  I found Flash10 to crash less than Flash9, but ymmv
[21:19] <Zombocom> guys
[21:19] <SmokeEater85911> do there is no way around it?
[21:20] <matt_> anyone any ideas how I can get it to recognise?
[21:20] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: not to my knowledge.  I don't think there's a person here who's  had no problems at all with their flash plugin.  Linux support isnt quite up to speed yet.
[21:21] <gilboman007> i am using ubuntu and want to switch to kubuntu is there any way i can keep all my files and do the switch
[21:21] <SmokeEater85911> thats awesome.. its a good thing about 90% of sites out there today use flash
[21:21] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: write a letter to Adobe.
[21:22] <SmokeEater85911> lol
[21:22] <SmokeEater85911> adobe doesnt care because Linux doesnt pay them
[21:22] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: pretty much.  they're getting better, as we're a vocal community, but you can't fault Linux for poor vendor support.
[21:23] <SmokeEater85911> does Konqueror have the same issues with the flash plugin?
[21:23] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: in my experience, worse :/
[21:23] <SmokeEater85911> ew
[21:23] <Zombocom> kdm isnt' working  properly for me, I install and tell the kdm theme manager to use a theme, but I boot up to the same theme every time
[21:23] <SmokeEater85911> Im just a die hard FF user hah
[21:24] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: me too.  some people say Opera works better, but i needs my addons!
[21:25] <SmokeEater85911> yeah i hear ya
[21:25] <SmokeEater85911> faster fox, greasemonkey, chatzilla
[21:26] <SmokeEater85911> like Im using chatzilla right now
[21:26] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: yeah, the addons are the reason i won't use any other browser.  Opera actually is faster, but doesn't have everything that i am used to.
[21:26] <SmokeEater85911> man everything keeps crashing
[21:27] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: you can see if you have better luck with Flash9 (which is the current 'stable' version)...
[21:28] <Zombocom> so anyone up to help me with my kdm problem?
[21:28] <ign0ramus> zombocom: are you installing system themes or splash themes?
[21:29] <Zombocom> kdm login screen themes
[21:29] <Zombocom> splash works fine
[21:31] <ign0ramus> zombocom: do any themes come by default (as in more than one choice)?
[21:33] <Zombocom> ign0ramus yes there is a kdm-theme manager package that allows you to choose one
[21:33] <Zombocom> and last install it worked
[21:33] <SmokeEater85911> ugh..
[21:34] <ign0ramus> zombocom: for example, upon installing kdmtheme, i get "Circles" and two "Kubuntu O2" themes.  Have you tried changing to one of the defaults?
[21:34] <Zombocom> yeah lemme try that
[21:34] <ign0ramus> Zombocom: remember, the theme must be a "kdmtheme" for it to work properly
[21:34] <Zombocom> ign0ramus it is a kdmtheme
[21:34] <ign0ramus> ok, just checking ;)
[21:34] <Zombocom> http://www.kde-look.org
[21:35] <Zombocom> click on kde 3.x themes
[21:35] <Zombocom> I can't enjoy any of those
[21:35] <Zombocom> :)
[21:35] <SmokeEater85911> hmm anything special i should know about with using an external HDD?
[21:35] <Zombocom> brb I'll just be afk because this is a screen session
[21:35] <ign0ramus> zombocom: but there's a whole section labeled "kdm themes"
[21:35] <SmokeEater85911> I click on the drive in dolphin, and it comes up with an error
[21:36] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: what's the error?
[21:36] <SmokeEater85911> logfile indicates unclean shutdown failed to mount
[21:37] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: what's on the drive? An actual OS, or just files?
[21:37] <SmokeEater85911> just files
[21:37] <SmokeEater85911> do I mount it?
[21:38] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: yeah, you should be able to force-mount it
[21:38] <ign0ramus> is it NTFS or ext3 or other?
[21:38] <SmokeEater85911> nope it just pops up with that error
[21:38] <SmokeEater85911> NTFS
[21:38] <SmokeEater85911> the error is like a paragraph long lol
[21:39] <ign0ramus> did you try * sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdaX * where "X" is your HDD?
[21:39] <SmokeEater85911> didnt know about that
[21:39] <SmokeEater85911> i dont know all these commands yet lol
[21:40] <Zombocom> ign0ramus if you click the section called kdm themes a submenu will appear after the section loads where you can choose 3.x or 4.x
[21:40] <SmokeEater85911> $LogFile indicates unclean shutdown (0, 0) Failed to mount '/dev/sdb1': Operation not supported Mount is denied because NTFS is marked to be in use. Choose one action: Choice 1: If you have Windows then disconnect the external devices by clicking on the 'Safely Remove Hardware' icon in the Windows taskbar then shutdown Windows cleanly. Choice 2: If you don't have Windows then you can use the...
[21:40] <Glady> is it good to instaalll firestarter?
[21:40] <SmokeEater85911> ...'force' option for your own responsibility. For example type on the command line: mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1 /media/iBook -o force Or add the option to the relevant row in the /etc/fstab file: /dev/sdb1 /media/iBook ntfs-3g force 0 0
[21:40] <SmokeEater85911> thats the error
[21:40] <ign0ramus> !pastebin | smokeeater85911
[21:41] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: did you try the suggestion? --> * mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1 /media/iBook -o force *?
[21:41] <ign0ramus> that's what i meant by a force-mount
[21:41] <Zombocom> argggg... it desplays the same stuff whether I enable kdm themes or not
[21:41] <SmokeEater85911> one sec
[21:42] <starenka> hello, how can i run command on every system start?
[21:43] <SmokeEater85911> hmm
[21:43] <ign0ramus> zombocom: are you accessing the theme manager via "System Settings" or "KControl"?
[21:43] <SmokeEater85911> it told me im using the argument mount wrong
[21:44] <Zombocom> ign0ramus yes System Settings
[21:44] <ign0ramus> zombocom: Alt+F2, type 'KControl' and try it from there.  System Settings is buggy with this package.
[21:45] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: specifically, what arguments were invalid?  Pastebin if output is long.
[21:45] <Zombocom> lowercase K and C btw ign0ramus
[21:45] <ign0ramus> Zombocom: it actually makes no difference in Run dialogue...
[21:46] <SmokeEater85911> it says only root can do that
[21:46] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: oh, use "sudo" first
[21:46] <ign0ramus> ... " sudo mount... " etc
[21:47] <starenka> hello, how can i run command on every system start?
[21:47] <Zombocom> ign0ramus run dialogue is caps insensitive?
[21:47] <ign0ramus> starenka: i believe by placing a batch file in autostart?
[21:48] <ign0ramus> Zombocom: yup
[21:48] <Zombocom> except they're not called batch files in linux
[21:48] <Zombocom> they're called scripts
[21:48] <SmokeEater85911>  rob@Andromeda:~$ sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1/media/iBook -o force Usage: mount -V                 : print version        mount -h                 : print this help        mount                    : list mounted filesystems        mount -l                 : idem, including volume labels So far the informational part. Next the mounting. The command is `mount [-t fstype] something...
[21:48] <SmokeEater85911> ...somewhere'. Details found in /etc/fstab may be omitted.        mount -a [-t|-O] ...     : mount all stuff from /etc/fstab        mount device             : mount device at the known place        mount directory          : mount known device here        mount -t type dev dir    : ordinary mount command Note that one does not really mount a device, one mounts a filesystem (of the given...
[21:48] <SmokeEater85911> ...type) found on the device. One can also mount an already visible directory tree elsewhere:        mount --bind olddir newdir or move a subtree:        mount --move olddir newdir One can change the type of mount containing the directory dir:        mount --make-shared dir        mount --make-slave dir        mount --make-private dir        mount --make-unbindable dir One can change the...
[21:48] <SmokeEater85911> ...type of all the mounts in a mount subtree containing the directory dir:        mount --make-rshared dir        mount --make-rslave dir        mount --make-rprivate dir        mount --make-runbindable dir A device can be given by name, say /dev/hda1 or /dev/cdrom, or by label, using  -L label  or by uuid, using  -U uuid . Other options: [-nfFrsvw] [-o options] [-p passwdfd]. For many more...
[21:48] <Zombocom> !pastebin SmokeEater85911
[21:48] <starenka> ign0ramus: yep, but i want to start it not depending on user
[21:48] <SmokeEater85911> ...details, say  man 8 mount .
[21:48] <Zombocom> !pastebin | SmokeEater85911
[21:48] <SmokeEater85911> ah.. what the hell
[21:48] <SmokeEater85911> lol I used pastebin
[21:48] <Zombocom> SmokeEater85911 then why did you spam that in here?
[21:48] <SmokeEater85911> guess I dont know how to use it
[21:48] <SmokeEater85911> sorry lol
[21:48] <Zombocom> lol
[21:48] <Glady> so
[21:49] <Zombocom> you submit the information into a pastebin
[21:49] <starenka> SmokeEater85911: pastebin.com
[21:49] <ign0ramus> *facepalm* lol
[21:49] <Zombocom> you hit enter or save or whatever
[21:49] <Glady> what about rkhunter and guarddog and all that?
[21:49] <Zombocom> and then you paste us the link it sends you
[21:49] <Zombocom> not the information you sent it
[21:49] <ign0ramus> glady: what about all that?
[21:49] <Glady> yes
[21:49] <ign0ramus> Glady: that's what i'm asking.
[21:49] <Glady> in ubuntu do we have to install that?
[21:49] <ign0ramus> Glady:  No.
[21:49] <Glady> rkhunter
[21:49] <SmokeEater85911> http://paste.ubuntu.com/38309/plain/
[21:49] <Glady> ok
[21:49] <Glady> so
[21:49] <Zombocom> ign0ramus it didn't work
[21:50] <ign0ramus> Glady: you already have a Firewall.
[21:50] <Glady> i installed firestarter
[21:50] <Glady> i will remove it
[21:50] <ign0ramus> zombocom: hmm... I don't know why that is...
[21:50] <Zombocom> ign0ramus what they don't tell you is the firewall has everything set to open by default
[21:50] <ign0ramus> Zombocom: i'm pretty sure that's backwards
[21:50] <Zombocom> no
[21:51] <Zombocom> notice you can run any server or any program without the port being blocked?
[21:51] <Zombocom> that's because ifconfig allows everything
[21:51] <Glady> what is fun with ubuntu is that u can install and remove all the time
[21:51] <SmokeEater85911> one sec
[21:52] <ign0ramus> Zombocom: but the ports aren't "open" until theres something listening
[21:52] <Zombocom> the port's aren't really open unless a program is bound to that port, but it doesn't stop any program from doing such
[21:52] <ign0ramus> Zombocom: right.
[21:52] <Zombocom> yeah well you can configure ifconfig to only allow specific ports
[21:52] <Zombocom> Glady I like rkhunter, keep it
[21:52] <SmokeEater85911> k i forced mounted it
[21:52] <Zombocom> I'm a bit of a paranoid
[21:52] <SmokeEater85911> got another error
[21:52] <Glady> ok
[21:53] <SmokeEater85911> http://paste.ubuntu.com/38312/plain/
[21:53] <ign0ramus> Glady: Guarddog is a front-end for iptables, which is your firewall.  You can easily config through a GUI, but it's not necessary
[21:53] <Glady> ok
[21:54] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: despite the error, are you able to see into the HDD now?
[21:54] <SmokeEater85911> yup
[21:54] <ign0ramus> :)
[21:54] <Zombocom> Glady if you're still paranoid and think you need a virusscan look up clam on the repository
[21:54] <SmokeEater85911> so just ignore the error lol
[21:54] <SmokeEater85911> thanks
[21:54] <Zombocom> lol
[21:54] <Zombocom> hold on
[21:54] <ign0ramus> yeah, i've had that happen before.  it's says it failed but it works anyway *shrugs*
[21:54] <ign0ramus> welcome.
[21:55] <Zombocom> =oh
[21:55] <Zombocom> OH
[21:55] <ign0ramus> oh?
[21:55] <SmokeEater85911> now to get my other speakers working
[21:55] <Zombocom> I know what the error that you got SmokeEater85911
[21:55] <Glady> no I don,t want to have too much stuff for nothing
[21:55] <Zombocom> lol
[21:55] <Zombocom> it returned the error
[21:55] <Glady> and what is xubuntu?
[21:56] <Zombocom> because there was no directory /media/iBook when you mounted
[21:56] <ign0ramus> !xubuntu | glady
[21:56] <Zombocom> SmokeEater85911 are you there?
[21:56] <SmokeEater85911> yeah sorry
[21:56] <SmokeEater85911> i was trying to get my sound working
[21:56] <Glady> is it better?
[21:56] <Zombocom> Glady it's a matter of preference
[21:56] <starenka> Hello, plzplzpl how to run commands on system start regardless on user logged in?
[21:56] <Glady> u are still on ur sound smoke?
[21:57] <ign0ramus> glady: Xubuntu is better for older, slower hardware.  It runs faster than GNOME or KDE, but with different levels of functionality
[21:57] <ign0ramus> Glady: just read --> http://www.xubuntu.org/
[21:57] <Zombocom> starenka an autorun script
[21:57] <MetaMorfoziS> Hi all
[21:57] <SmokeEater85911> k 4 of my speakers work, how do I get the sub working
[21:57] <MetaMorfoziS> can anybody help me in a little bash thing?
[21:58] <starenka> Zombocom: you mean ~/.kde/autorun? this is not regardless on user..
[21:58] <MetaMorfoziS> I wan't to read kicker's config's one line
[21:58] <MetaMorfoziS> modify it, then rewrite.
[21:58] <Zombocom> starenka no
[21:58] <MetaMorfoziS> Any body can help me in this?
[21:58] <Zombocom> I mean like when you have an ircd running
[21:58] <Zombocom> let me find the directory and get back to you
[21:58] <Zombocom> I think it's /etc/ something
[21:58] <Zombocom> I'll look at the tor daemon
[21:59] <SmokeEater85911> zombocom do you know how to get my sub working?
[21:59] <starenka> Zombocom: no stands for what? :))
[21:59] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: what system of speakers are you setting up?
[22:00] <SmokeEater85911> its the ones built into my laptop
[22:00] <Zombocom> sorry starenka
[22:00] <Zombocom> it's a bad habit
[22:00] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: what sound card?
[22:00] <Zombocom> I tell people no even if I'm agreeing with them
[22:00] <SmokeEater85911> lol
[22:00] <SmokeEater85911> um one sec
[22:00] <starenka> Zombocom: good practice :))
[22:00] <ign0ramus> Zombocom: i know a lot of girls like that. ;)
[22:01] <SmokeEater85911> Realtek ALC268
[22:01] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: what laptop (brand/model)?
[22:02] <SmokeEater85911> Toshiba Satellite x205-s9800
[22:02] <SmokeEater85911> and where did my title bar go on all my windows? lol
[22:03] <SmokeEater85911> i just noticed it was gone
[22:04] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Gutsy_Intel_HD_Audio_Controller  Should work for Hardy as well
[22:04] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: look for your model
[22:04] <Glady> how come people are so nice here?
[22:04] <mila> :-)
[22:05] <SmokeEater85911> hmm
[22:05] <Glady> hmm?
[22:06] <ign0ramus> Glady: people usually give what they get.
[22:06] <SmokeEater85911> it only says my model at the top
[22:06] <SmokeEater85911> its not the exact model but its similar and i think has the same card in it as mine does
[22:08] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: yeah, and I just read that another Satellite model doesn't have subwoofer capabilities... Let me keep looking
[22:10] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: see if this is relevant: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4573580&postcount=10
[22:12] <SmokeEater85911> ive been here, the link is broken, so I went to where it told me to go
[22:12] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: can you pastebin your alsa modprobe?  * sudo kate /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base *
[22:13] <SmokeEater85911> yeah, under supported it doesnt even say it fixes the sub
[22:13] <SmokeEater85911> lemme paste that thing
[22:15] <SmokeEater85911> !pastebin
[22:15] <SmokeEater85911> http://paste.ubuntu.com/38318/plain/
[22:15] <Nyle> hey there
[22:16] <Nyle> I have severe problem with my kubuntu
[22:16] <Nyle> 8.04 hardy
[22:16] <Nyle> I try to login from kdm, and it goes like blank like its going to load the kde, but then it goes back to kdm
[22:16] <Nyle> I tried to create a fresh new user, and tried to login through there, no dice
[22:16] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: the only thing I can recommend is to add this line to the end * options snd-hda-intel model=toshiba * and reboot
[22:16] <Nyle> what could be the problem
[22:17] <SmokeEater85911> whats that do
[22:18] <SmokeEater85911> so paste *sudo kate /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base options snd-hda-intel model=toshiba* ?
[22:18] <SmokeEater85911> oh you mean at the end of that thing I pasted?
[22:18] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: paste that at the end of your /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base file
[22:19] <SmokeEater85911> then hit save?
[22:19] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: then you'll modprobing for the Realtek ALC268
[22:19] <Nyle> anyone?
[22:19] <Glady> when I open a shell am I in grub?
[22:19] <SmokeEater85911> k so now reboot?
[22:19] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: yeah, save it and reboot.  hopefully your speakers will all work.  *crosses fingers8
[22:20] <Glady> how can he have so many speakers in a laptop?
[22:20] <ign0ramus> Glady: No.  Are you trying to edit your grub file?
[22:20] <Glady> no
[22:20] <Glady> just curious
[22:20] <SmokeEater85911> k I have to run into town, ill be back on thanks!
[22:20] <ign0ramus> Glady: No, terminal emulator is not the same thing as GRUB
[22:20] <Glady> when i m in a shell
[22:20] <Glady> wait
[22:20] <Glady> smoke
[22:21] <Glady> I have something to ask
[22:21] <SmokeEater85911> yeah?
[22:21] <Glady> what u said about ubiquity
[22:21] <Glady> I lost the link
[22:21] <SmokeEater85911> about what?
[22:21] <Glady> what is it for?
[22:21] <Glady> for my new hd
[22:21] <ign0ramus> ubiquity is what installs kubuntu off a livecd
[22:21] <SmokeEater85911> I didnt say anything about it
[22:22] <SmokeEater85911> somebody else mus have
[22:22] <Zombocom> !ubiquity
[22:22] <Glady> u talked about ubiquity explanation on youtube
[22:22] <SmokeEater85911> oh
[22:22] <Glady> for partitions and format
[22:22] <SmokeEater85911> yeah just look on youtube how to install it
[22:22] <SmokeEater85911> there are video tutorials
[22:22] <Zombocom> starenka you still there?
[22:22] <Glady> install ubiquity?
[22:22] <SmokeEater85911> how to install it on another partitionyes
[22:22] <Zombocom> I think it's /etc/intit.d
[22:22] <Glady> oh
[22:22] <Glady> sorry
[22:22] <starenka> Zombocom: yes, mum
[22:22] <SmokeEater85911> brb
[22:22] <Glady> it was alex maybe
[22:22] <SmokeEater85911> yeah alex will know
[22:22] <Zombocom> starenka /etc/init.d
[22:22] <SmokeEater85911> he helped me install it all
[22:22] <Zombocom> I think that's it
[22:22] <ign0ramus> zombocom: that's where all services can be started or stopped
[22:22] <starenka> Zombocom: yes, already googled it out
[22:23] <Zombocom> see
[22:23] <Zombocom> I'm useless
[22:23] <ign0ramus> Zombocom: :P'
[22:23] <Glady> ok
[22:23] <starenka> Zombocom: hehe. no thanx for concern, m8
[22:23] <Glady> it is cuz I lost some links he gave me
[22:23] <Zombocom> lol
[22:23] <Zombocom> starenka googling it out is a good policy
[22:23] <starenka> Zombocom: yes, if you know HOW TO ASK
[22:24] <Zombocom> yeah
[22:24] <Zombocom> sorreh
[22:24] <ign0ramus> starenka: true, cause google doesn't know what "that little thingy on the corner of my screen" is!
[22:24] <ign0ramus> someone here might, though.
[22:24] <starenka> so tru
[22:25] <Glady> ok
[22:25] <Glady> anyway
[22:25] <Glady> need rest
[22:25] <Glady> ciao
[22:25] <ign0ramus> starenka: out of curiosity, what are you running at startup?
[22:25] <ign0ramus> glady: goodbye!!
[22:26] <Glady> bye
[22:26] <starenka> ign0ramus: it's a couple of mount --binds im using because i can't get proftpd resolve symlinks
[22:27] <ign0ramus> starenka: that's strange.  I'm sure you checked the symlinks... wonder if it's a bug in proftpd
[22:27] <ign0ramus> starenka: could it be a simple permissions issue?
[22:28] <starenka> no the symlinks work within the system, but they do not if you log in via ftp
[22:28] <ign0ramus> starenka: i see.  makes sense that way.
[22:29] <starenka> ign0ramus: i thought it is because user ftp doesn have permissions to acces those dirs,  but it is... so i used mount --bind, which i have to run on every system start... maybe is there a way how to stick it within fstab, but i don't know how
[22:30] <ign0ramus> starenka: that's what i had meant, but i don't use ftp enough to know the ins and outs
[22:30] <ign0ramus> starenka: have you tried any other clients that may support this?
[22:31] <SmokeEater85911> no dice on the sub woofer after reboot
[22:31] <starenka> ign0ramus: nope, i used only krusader and opera, but i need to have it operational for wide user base, so i guess any other client wont help this time
[22:31] <john_> Anyone know about mounting memory as a fast, volatile mountpoint?
[22:32] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: :(
[22:32] <ign0ramus> starenka: got it.
[22:33] <SmokeEater85911> *cries*
[22:33] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: keep your eyes open, i'm sure it will be resolved sometime soon.
[22:33] <SmokeEater85911> its so annoying
[22:34] <starenka> ign0ramus: btw i don't think this is client issue, the server just sends dirs on LIST or whatever req, what's behind shouldn't matter imho.. f.e if you browse a webpage you dont care if it is served by apache or lighthttpd
[22:34] <SmokeEater85911> if I want to listen to music i have to switch over to windows heh
[22:34] <SmokeEater85911> so no sub woofer support.. no flash support..
[22:34] <SmokeEater85911> *lame*
[22:34] <SmokeEater85911> remind me again why so many people like linux?
[22:34] <SmokeEater85911> lol
[22:34] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: flash shouldn't be that terrible.  You can try reverting to Flash9
[22:35] <john_> huh?  No flash support or sub woofer support?  I'm using both ...
[22:35] <starenka> SmokeEater85911: maybe they know how to handle it? :)
[22:35] <SmokeEater85911> i cant get my sub in my laptop to work
[22:35] <SmokeEater85911> and pretty much any site with flash crashes firefox
[22:35] <SmokeEater85911> which locks up the system and I have to reboot
[22:35] <john_> how come/
[22:35] <john_> ?
[22:36] <john_> which version of Firefox?
[22:36] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: did you install the package in Adept and then install the tar.gz from the Adobe web site?  Because you should uninstall any Flash before installing the new package
[22:36] <SmokeEater85911> 3
[22:36] <SmokeEater85911> yeah, I didnt uninstall anything
[22:36] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: i mean, did you install flashplugin-nonfree in Adept?
[22:36] <SmokeEater85911> it should have just overwritten the old one though right?
[22:36] <SmokeEater85911> yeah
[22:37] <SmokeEater85911> and then went to the site and installed flash player 10
[22:37] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: it *should* but it doesn't.
[22:37] <john_> type: dpkg-l | grep flash
[22:37] <john_> what do you get?
[22:37] <john_> dpkg -l
[22:38] <SmokeEater85911>  flashplugin-nonfree    9.0.124.0ubuntu2
[22:38] <unamanic> starenka: looks like an fstab entry will work for your issue
[22:39] <ign0ramus> john_: but he has also installed Flash10 RC from Adobe
[22:39] <SmokeEater85911> but when I type in FF, about:plugins it says flash 10
[22:39] <SmokeEater85911> Shockwave Flash 10.0.0 d569
[22:40] <unamanic> starenas: This works for me: /home/unamanic /homebind  ext2 bind 0 0
[22:40] <SmokeEater85911> anyway I gotta hit up the store Ill be back in a while
[22:40] <ign0ramus> SmokeEater85911: take it easy
[22:41] <john_> In Firefox, go to Tools>AddOns>Plugins and you should be able to disable version 10 from there.
[22:43] <starenka> unamanic: hope it will work with ntfs too
[22:45] <starenka> another story, is it somehow possible to run kdesudo via ssh?
[22:46] <john_> yes: enable X forwarding when establishing ssh connection
[22:46] <starenka> john_: i have this enabled
[22:47] <john_> and X forwarding doesn't work ?
[22:47] <starenka> john_: yes, but not kdesudo.. gksudo works :)
[22:47] <starenka> X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication.
[22:47] <starenka> kate: cannot connect to X server localhost:10.0
[22:48] <starenka> (i swear the pass is ok)
[22:49] <john_> which option did you use for X forwarding?  If you used -Y, try -X
[22:49] <starenka> i have -X
[22:50] <starenka> to be precise -X -C (compress)
[22:50] <john_> did you get any error message about accessing ~/.Xauthority file when calling ssh?
[22:50] <anom01y> hmm anyone here know why sometimes when I reset my computer, kmix doesnt show all the mixer settings that it is supposed to ?
[22:50] <starenka> john_: no..
[22:51] <draik> How do I install the latest virtualbox-ose-module ? Per apt-get, it's the latest\
[22:52] <anom01y> its a 50/50 chance I've noticed that it will load correctly or not load correctly
[22:53] <john_> starenka: The other option is to generate a key and copy the public key to the remote machine so you don't have to type in the password.
[22:54] <starenka> john_: thx
[22:58] <john_> Anyone know about mounting RAM space as a volatile filesystem/mountpoint?
[23:00] <anom01y> see I just reset the computer, (third time), and now kmix is showing all the levels and inputs that it should. the last two times it didn't.
[23:01] <anom01y> an intermittant kmix
[23:02] <starenka> unamanic: heh ad fstab.. i got problems mounting to dirs containing space. closing in ' or escaping space with \ does not work :(
[23:03] <georgeb> starenka: try this from man fstab: ...mount point contains spaces these can be escaped as ‘\040’.
[23:03] <starenka> georgeb: rah. RTFM, starenka
[23:04] <starenka> georgeb: thx
[23:04] <georgeb> starenka: no problem
[23:04] <starenka> georgeb: ooo, how can i search within man pages, tho?
[23:04] <starenka> georgeb: regexp search as a bonus :))
[23:05] <georgeb> starenka: once you open the man page you need press / and type away
[23:05] <georgeb> starenka: like "/space<Enter>" :)
[23:05] <starenka> starenka: oooo thx...
[23:06] <georgeb> starenka: I dunno how to search in all man pages, if this is what you need
[23:06] <starenka> georgeb: nono, within single man...
[23:07] <starenka> one more, ladies : mntent]: warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab
[23:07] <starenka> and i did make the newline there
[23:07] <georgeb> starenka: btw, when using / to search you can jump to the next occurence by pressing n and previous occurence by pressing N (shift-n)
[23:07] <john_> I needed to make two newlines in mine I think
[23:07] <starenka> georgeb: awsome... this makes my life soo easier :))
[23:08] <starenka> georgeb: been trying the whole keyb (letters) - cuz i know q stands for quit, but i havent tried /
[23:08] <starenka> :))
[23:08] <georgeb> :)
[23:09] <starenka> john_: made 1,2,3 of them and still the same warning :(
[23:09] <Walzmyn> in Kontact, how d'ya move an event from one calendar to another?
[23:21] <draik> Who maintains the virtualbox kernels? Seems that I'm on 21-generic, but the virtualbox kernel only goes up to 20. Anyone have an idea on the release date?
[23:27] <Nyle> I need to burn a dvd iso image from cli to a dvd burner
[23:27] <Nyle> what tool should I use
[23:31] <Denise> anyone knows how come i have problems with opera now?
[23:31] <Denise> it was ok and now it is all crap
[23:40] <forty-seven> anyone know how to get the old Konquest in kubuntu?
[23:40] <ign0ramus> hey draik
[23:40] <ubuntu> Hello everyone I have been using Ubuntu for about 6 months now.Im now looking into other buntu versions and other distros.Ubuntu was my first Linux distro experience and its been pretty cool.
[23:40] <ign0ramus> Sun now owns and maintains VBox
[23:40] <ubuntu> Now Im trying Kubuntu.
[23:40] <draik> ign0ramus: Hey there. How goes all
[23:40] <ign0ramus> good good
[23:40] <ign0ramus> i had the same issue when i upgraded the kernel
[23:41] <draik> ign0ramus: Oh. I guess I just have to wait for them to release 21-generic
[23:41] <ign0ramus> nah...
[23:41] <ubuntu> Im wondering if there is any distros or plans for any distros to make it easy to make offline app installs easy to do?
[23:41] <ign0ramus> Just download the latest deb and install, and it works on 21-generic
[23:41] <ign0ramus> https://cds.sun.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/WFS/CDS-CDS_SMI-Site/en_US/-/USD/ViewProductDetail-Start?ProductRef=innotek-1.6-G-F@CDS-CDS_SMI
[23:41] <ign0ramus> I'm running it now on 21-generic
[23:42] <ign0ramus> draik: you'll have to go through and re-accept the Sun agreement and all, but your VBox user settings will remain intact
[23:43] <draik> Sweet
[23:44] <ubuntu> Any of you foldk have any experience making a custom Live CD of a linux distro?
[23:44] <ubuntu> folks*
[23:47] <lgdmz> alguien me dice como puedo ir al ubuntu en espnaol?
[23:47] <ign0ramus> !es | lgdmz
[23:48] <starenka> jojojo
[23:48] <ign0ramus> draik: you there man?
[23:49] <starenka> anyone save my ass plz: how to switch locale (i already have the desired configured)
[23:49] <draik> ign0ramus: Yeah. Sorry. Opera was taking a while to die
[23:49] <ign0ramus> draik: try shooting it. strangling takes too long ;)
[23:50] <ign0ramus> starenka: Kcontrol > Regional stuff > your preference
[23:50] <draik> I love my aliases
[23:50] <starenka> ign0ramus:  this does not work
[23:50] <ign0ramus> draik: which are...?
[23:50] <draik> Die for sudo killall
[23:50] <ign0ramus> draik: nice.  i've never made aliases.  what's the command?
[23:51] <draik> dg for 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade'
[23:51] <ign0ramus> why dg?
[23:51] <draik> upDate and upGrade
[23:51] <ign0ramus> makes sense.
[23:51] <draik> It did at the time :)
[23:51] <starenka> how about alias share='python -c "import SimpleHTTPServer;SimpleHTTPServer.test()"'
[23:51] <ign0ramus> haha.  how do you create an alias for a specific command?
[23:52] <draik> There is a 2-part process to creating an alias and keeping it permanent.
[23:52] <starenka> ign0ramus: echo 'alias = "what"' > ~/.bashrc
[23:52] <starenka> sorry
[23:52] <starenka>  echo 'alias = "what"' >> ~/.bashrc
[23:53] <draik> part 1)   alias dg='sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade'
[23:53] <ign0ramus> quotes included?
[23:53] <starenka> yep
[23:53] <ign0ramus> ok
[23:54] <draik> Part 2) (do as starenka stated)
[23:54] <draik> The thing is that you need part 1
[23:54] <draik> It doesn't matter in which order you do it
[23:54] <draik> I've tested part 1 then part 2 and vice-versa
[23:55] <starenka> the 1st method is not permanent
[23:55] <starenka> it will last as long as your konsole
[23:55] <ign0ramus> got it.  added it to bashrc.  so next login, my alias will be remembered?
[23:55] <starenka> just write bash into terminal
[23:55] <draik> Did you do the first part?
[23:55] <starenka> and it will work this instant
[23:56] <ign0ramus> yup
[23:56] <forty-seven> I think I installed KDE4
[23:56] <forty-seven> but how do I switch to it?
[23:56] <ign0ramus> yeah, i just tested it, and it works
[23:56] <draik> ign0ramus: I can't install the deb
[23:56] <ign0ramus> draik: why?
[23:56] <ign0ramus> dependencies?
[23:58] <starenka> draik: you got some nifty aliases to share?
[23:58] <AmiZya> exit
[23:58] <AmiZya> Oups , sorry :$
[23:58] <ign0ramus> amizya: slash - quit
[23:58] <draik> ign0ramus: Don't know. I will PM you the error message
[23:59] <draik> My aliases are cdmount, dg, die and dvdmount
[23:59] <draik> I had others, but didn't use them much so I took them out