[15:17] <gnomefreak> i think im taking tomorrow off my arm is really hurting something awful
[18:29] <fta> [reed], I get http://paste.ubuntu.com/38273/ sometimes when i hit back or when i click on a tab (i know I need proper symbols..). Problem is that it dies with the focus grabbed so my whole desktop becomes unusable, i have to kill the process (here gdb) from a console :P
[18:29] <fta> damn ppa, still not doing dbgsym :(
[18:31] <fta> asac, Jazzva: http://hg.mozilla.org/index.cgi/mozilla-central/rev/4a506fa751d8f89f0abc93662cb5ad805b9f24c5
[18:36] <fta> they patch the in-source cairo to add qpainter so exit system cairo for a possible xul-qt
[18:39] <fta> [reed], what is that http://hg.mozilla.org/index.cgi/mozilla-central/rev/cae882483daebb4c62786d0316973cd9ab8f045c  ? it says "merge with mozilla-central" but it is mozilla-central, so merge from where/what ??? there are several commits like this one
[18:51] <fta> mozilla Bug 450646
[18:51] <fta> http://hg.mozilla.org/index.cgi/mozilla-central/rev/2e5f07e2b75b1912f843443c8a2b05d55eb81bff
[18:52] <fta> armin76, bumb
[18:52] <armin76> bumb!
[19:00] <fta> strange, i only see NSS_3_12_1_RC1
[19:09] <fta> i should read 1st
[20:01] <fta> mozilla bug 330628
[21:01] <asac> ola
[21:02] <asac> fta: can we keep the "embedded" layout optional for xul?
[21:03] <fta> ?
[21:10] <fta> asac, eh?
[21:14] <asac> 00:14 < fta> asac, i/we have a problem. sm2 and tb3 are now in comm-central (hg), meaning the same  (huge) tarball, like xul1.9.1 + ff3.1 with mozcentral. Worse, sm2 & tb3 also pull then  full mozcentral..
[21:14] <asac> 00:15 -!- wantok [n=kgoetz@gnewsense/friend/pdpc.active.kgoetz] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam
[21:14] <asac> 00:16 < fta> asac, for xul1.9.1, i move to embedded tarball, that helped a bit, yet, the new deb  source format /w quilt3 seems to prevent that.
[21:15] <fta> it is optional, but used by default
[21:15] <fta> ..when you create your tarball with m-d
[21:15] <asac> ok
[21:15] <sebner> asac: mighty alexander. When I have a package with Suggests: iceweasel | iceape what should I use instead?
[21:16] <asac> and debiNan/rules?
[21:16] <asac> sebner: just add firefox and seamonkey
[21:16] <asac> no need to remove the ice* things
[21:16] <fta> asac, same as 1.9, regarding the embedded code
[21:16] <asac> ok
[21:18] <sebner> asac: so iceweasel | iceape | firefox | seamonkey ?
[21:24] <fta> asac, any idea on how to solve that?
[21:29] <asac> sebner: yes. or make them first ;)
[21:29] <sebner> asac: hrhr. and what about all the descriptions? Change iceweasel everytime to Firefox?
[21:30] <asac> sebner: that would be good
[21:30] <sebner> asac: Ay Ay mighty Alexander :)
[21:31] <asac> fta: you mean the problem with quilt 3?
[21:32] <fta> no, the huge tarballs
[21:32] <asac> how huge?
[21:32] <asac> 100+M?
[21:34] <fta> in bz2, xul and ff are 38M each
[21:34] <fta> so tb and sm are bigger
[21:34] <asac> 50?
[21:34] <asac> what size has xul 1.9 ?
[21:34] <asac> 32?
[21:35] <fta> -rw-r--r-- 1 fta fta 40330244 2008-06-10 15:04 xulrunner-1.9_1.9+nobinonly.orig.tar.gz
[21:35] <fta> -rw-r--r-- 1 fta fta 37040669 2008-08-16 00:44 xulrunner-1.9.1_1.9.1~a2~hg20080815r16722+nobinonly.orig.tar.gz
[21:35] <fta> this is better, but:
[21:35] <fta> -rw-r--r-- 1 fta fta 10884365 2008-06-10 15:04 firefox-3.0_3.0+nobinonly.orig.tar.gz
[21:35] <fta> -rw-r--r-- 1 fta fta 37055272 2008-08-16 00:54 firefox-3.1_3.1~a2~hg20080815r16723+nobinonly.orig.tar.gz
[21:35] <asac> why is ffox so huge?
[21:35] <fta> because it is the full mozcentral
[21:35] <fta> same as xul
[21:36] <asac> ok. so mozclient doesnt yet strip it down?
[21:36] <sebner> asac: what should I do if the manpage is outside the debian folder? use a patch system? Also the debian maintainer made the changes direct to the file so a patch system doesn't seem worth to me
[21:36] <fta> correct, and it will not
[21:36] <asac> fta: why?
[21:36] <fta> asac, it's a hg clone
[21:37] <fta> and i remember bs said it's fine like that
[21:37] <asac> fta: let me think
[21:37] <asac> ;)
[21:38] <asac> fta: so is tbird 3.0 now built from 1.9.1 branch?
[21:38] <asac> or do they have a branch for 1.9 in hg which is used by tbird 3?
[21:38] <fta> not mine yet but yes, tb3 and sm2 are now in comm-central, which also clone the full mozilla-central
[21:39] <fta> eh, clone through client.py
[21:39] <asac> fta: ok,  but tbird 3 is still maintained in cvs?
[21:39] <sebner> asac: seems ok to me since latest version is from 2001 ^^
[21:40] <fta> i think they stopped in july
[21:42] <asac> sebner: 2001?
[21:42] <asac> sebner: what package is that?
[21:42] <sebner> asac: http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/w/wmnetselect/current/changelog
[21:46] <[reed]> fta: 1) 449959
[21:46] <[reed]> fta: 2) mozilla-qt merge (which includes all log messages from mozilla-qt branch)
[21:50] <fta> [reed], for 2), it's far from clear in hgweb
[21:50] <fta> mozilla bug 449959
[21:53] <sebner> asac: crazy, hmm?
[21:55] <fta> but who's still using WindowMaker and netscape anyway...
[21:56] <sebner> dunno
[21:56] <sebner> but debian maintainer is active ^^
[22:01] <fta> asac, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=437064
[23:02] <fta> [reed], debian bug 494694
[23:31] <fta> [reed], http://ondrejcertik.blogspot.com/2008/08/i-am-switching-from-mercurial-to-git.html