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| DanaG | Argh, I suspended one laptop and then resumed it... and all my touchpad settings are gone! | 04:09 |
|---|---|---|
| DanaG | What gives? | 04:09 |
| DanaG | Even if I go to Mouse preferences and disable tapping..... it still does tapping. | 04:09 |
| DanaG | And synclient no longer works! | 04:10 |
| DanaG | That's just plain screwed up. | 04:10 |
| * RAOF throws launchpad.net at DanaG | 04:11 | |
| DanaG | Oh yeah, and on that laptop, even though the network passphrase is stored in the Login keyring.... it still asks me to unlock it. | 04:11 |
| DanaG | Aah: "Keep in mind that, even in a perfect world, pam_keyring will still not work if you set gdm to autologin to your main account." | 04:17 |
| DanaG | aah, I figured it out. | 04:19 |
| DanaG | Fixed it. | 04:21 |
| DanaG | https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=439386 | 04:26 |
| DanaG | ah. | 04:26 |
| ubottu | bugzilla.redhat.com bug 439386 in synaptics "Synaptics touchpad touching to tap doesn't work after suspend/resume cycle" [Medium,Assigned] | 04:26 |
| DanaG | Yay. | 04:30 |
| DanaG | http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/tree/config/x11-input.fdi | 04:30 |
| alex_mayorga | any Inspiron 1501 owners? | 05:01 |
| LSD|Ninja | Try asking about your specific problem with it | 05:11 |
| RAOF | Anyone here do dual-head with metacity? | 05:14 |
| alex_mayorga | just wanting to get Bug 121111 confirmed? | 05:30 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 121111 in linux "Ibex alpha 2 won't load on Dell Inspiron 1501" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/121111 | 05:30 |
| valiant8086 | Hi all 142 users. Is this the ubuntu support channel? There's so many of them I haven't a clue if I picked the one indicated by the download page | 05:31 |
| RAOF | valiant8086: You're after #ubuntu; this is discussion of the development release, Intrepid Ibex. | 05:31 |
| valiant8086 | Hi. | 05:39 |
| valiant8086 | er, sorry, didn't need to say hi again, heh. but anyway, I'm downloading 8.04. Is this the right place to ask a question about dual booting with a system that's already dual booting xp and vista? | 05:40 |
| RAOF | valiant8086: Not really; you'd be after #ubuntu. | 05:41 |
| valiant8086 | darn, heh, so just plain ubuntu. wonder if I can just get mirc to connect directly instead of looking through over 300 channels | 05:41 |
| gnomefreak | triple booting is a pain atleast it ws for me | 05:41 |
| RAOF | valiant8086: I'd suggest that "/join #ubuntu" is likely to work. | 05:41 |
| RAOF | It's a bit noisy, but you should hopefully be able to get an answer there. If not, ubuntuforums is a good resource. And there's always google; most questions have been asked and answered before. | 05:42 |
| valiant8086 | yeah and it really should be for me since dual booting vista and xp is already a pain | 05:42 |
| valiant8086 | ok, I think I'll part and see if I can go confuse someone | 05:43 |
| valiant8086 | latesx | 05:43 |
| valiant8086 | er | 05:43 |
| valiant8086 | rofl | 05:43 |
| DanaG | Argh, it's way hard to tweak the touchpad tap time when even normal clicking is | 05:51 |
| DanaG | ........ | 05:51 |
| DanaG | lagging. | 05:51 |
| DanaG | Argh, stupid nvidia. | 05:57 |
| alex_mayorga | DanaG: does shutdown works for you? | 05:58 |
| DanaG | Nope, it goes to logon screen for me.; | 05:59 |
| alex_mayorga | Bug 250506 it is | 06:01 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 250506 in consolekit "shutdown and restart act as logout" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/250506 | 06:01 |
| alex_mayorga | it's rather popular that bugger | 06:02 |
| Fredd | how come its not an issue to add 3rd party soucres with the "hardy" tag to ibex? | 06:04 |
| RAOF | Fredd: What makes you think it isnt? :) | 06:05 |
| Fredd | well i added the wine 1.1.2 sources for hardy and they are working fine | 06:05 |
| Fredd | other than wine phails | 06:05 |
| RAOF | Yup, that'll be the case. Sometimes. | 06:06 |
| RAOF | Basically, packages from other series aren't guaranteed to be installable (because they depend on packages not in Intrepid), or less often because a lib broke its ABI. | 06:07 |
| JollyGiant | RAOF: although WINE itself is rather resilient to such things if you override the package dependencies | 06:07 |
| JollyGiant | You might end up missing features because of missing and/or changed libraries but it should still somewhat work | 06:08 |
| DanaG | RAOF: I want to try out nouveau on that old laptop, but xserver-xorg-video-nouveau depends on the unavailable linux-nouveau-modules; how do I build that? | 07:00 |
| DanaG | It doesn't show up in module-assistant, and I don't remember offhand how to build modules while not in a full source tree dir. | 07:00 |
| RAOF | DanaG: drm-modules is the thing you should find in module-assistant. | 07:00 |
| RAOF | DanaG: The nouveau wiki has instructions, but basically you just need to build the drm-modules module-assistant package. | 07:01 |
| DanaG | aah, drm-modules, not nouveau. | 07:01 |
| RAOF | At some point I'll play with dkms and remove the module-assistant fun entirely. | 07:01 |
| DanaG | Cool. | 07:04 |
| DanaG | So the drm-modules 'provides' nouveau-modules, right? | 07:04 |
| RAOF | Right. | 07:04 |
| RAOF | It does so for hysterical raisins. | 07:04 |
| DanaG | Dang, now I'm kinda' hungry. | 07:04 |
| DanaG | =P | 07:05 |
| DanaG | So, what is nouveau currently capable of? | 07:06 |
| RAOF | Fast 2d, dual head. | 07:07 |
| RAOF | Oh, and bicubic Xv rescaling. | 07:07 |
| RAOF | If you feel the need to play with unfinished stuff, it'll do OpenArena pretty well. On nv4x, at least. | 07:08 |
| DanaG | Aah, it'll be good not to have LAAAAG even on things as simple as switching tabs in a console. | 07:08 |
| DanaG | nv4x? Can't say I know nvidia's numbering very well. | 07:08 |
| RAOF | Geforece 6 & 7. | 07:09 |
| DanaG | For example, my GeForce Go 7600 is G73... but I didn't know the 'NV#" name. | 07:09 |
| RAOF | nv4x. | 07:09 |
| DanaG | I'll be using Nouveau on the one that was using the 71.xx drivers for the GeForce 4-is-really-a-2 420 Go. | 07:09 |
| unfold | (off topic) has anyone here dual booted ubuntu w/ leopard? | 07:09 |
| RAOF | Specifically, that's the number that nouveau reads from the chip on start. | 07:10 |
| unfold | :) | 07:10 |
| RAOF | I presume that your geforce 4MX will be a nv2x chip. | 07:10 |
| RAOF | (TNT2 is nv04, the earliest card supported by nouveau) | 07:11 |
| crdlb | no, that's TNT | 07:11 |
| RAOF | Oh, I lie then. | 07:11 |
| RAOF | TNT2 is...? | 07:11 |
| * crdlb has one :> | 07:11 | |
| crdlb | 05 or 06 | 07:12 |
| RAOF | Well, then, nouveau goes all the way down to TNT. | 07:12 |
| RAOF | crdlb: How does nouveau go on your TNT? | 07:14 |
| fargiolas | hi, I need an help/suggestion about intrepid upgrade | 07:14 |
| fargiolas | update-manager -d was killed (my fault :P) before the end | 07:15 |
| fargiolas | rerunning it did nothing, it tried to upgrade packages but nothing happened because there was some error with apt libs | 07:16 |
| fargiolas | it has no crash recovery system.. | 07:17 |
| fargiolas | I almost solved everything (I think) running dpkg --configure -a, apt-get -f install and upgrading everything | 07:17 |
| fargiolas | but I'd like to know if update-manager does anything else after package upgrading that I should do manually | 07:18 |
| danbhfive | fargiolas: i think it might remove obsolete packages | 07:19 |
| fargiolas | autoremove? | 07:19 |
| danbhfive | well, it would remove obsolete packages, not quite the same as apt-get autoremove | 07:19 |
| DanaG | Hmm, I see no visible difference between nv and Nouveau on that old laptop. | 07:20 |
| DanaG | Wait, dpms is working better than nv, at least. | 07:20 |
| fargiolas | danbhfive: ok but I think it calls dpkg/apt to do it right? so there is surely a way to do things manually | 07:20 |
| DanaG | Aah: | 07:21 |
| DanaG | .. but that's for 3D, right? I don't really plan to do 3D on it. | 07:22 |
| danbhfive | fargiolas: yeah, dpkg. but, you would have to know which packages to remove, or use something like deborphan | 07:22 |
| RAOF | DanaG: ?? | 07:22 |
| * fargiolas looks at deborphan | 07:22 | |
| danbhfive | fargiolas: regardless, clean installs are best : P | 07:23 |
| RAOF | DanaG: It should do dual-head better than nv, I think. It might be a bit faster than nv, too, but your card is both less powerful and less well supported than my nv4x :) | 07:24 |
| fargiolas | danbhfive: sure but I have no time do it now and I needed a couple of new libraries.. | 07:24 |
| DanaG | Oh, it does do 2D composite better. | 07:25 |
| fargiolas | anyway update-manager *should* have some kind of crash recovery system, it's too critical to fail if killed | 07:25 |
| DanaG | Aah, geforce2 is nv11 and nv14; 4mx is 17 and 18. | 07:25 |
| danbhfive | well then I suspect that you wont care much about remove obsolete files. If they conflict with anything, they will get removed anyway | 07:25 |
| DanaG | GeForce 6 (NV4x) | 07:26 |
| DanaG | GeForce 7 (G7x) | 07:26 |
| DanaG | that's what it lists as names. | 07:26 |
| RAOF | DanaG: From where? Because G7x is also nv4x ;) | 07:26 |
| DanaG | Oh yeah, and now it's not mad-flickery like it was before. | 07:26 |
| DanaG | Look in xorg log. | 07:26 |
| RAOF | DanaG: Yeah. There's both nv4x and G7x | 07:27 |
| DanaG | (II) NOUVEAU driver for NVIDIA chipset families : (and that list). | 07:27 |
| RAOF | DanaG: Oooh. If it's a laptop, you'll also get pretty dithering. | 07:27 |
| RAOF | That's quite nice for those with 6-bit laptop panels. | 07:27 |
| RAOF | (ie: almost everyone). | 07:27 |
| DanaG | Yeah, it looked like crap before. | 07:27 |
| DanaG | Worst laptop I've ever used: P2 266 with NeoMagic. | 07:28 |
| DanaG | 16-bit color LCD. | 07:28 |
| DanaG | NOt 18. 16. | 07:28 |
| RAOF | 565? Crazy. | 07:28 |
| DanaG | ... and only 2.5 megs of video RAM. | 07:28 |
| DanaG | 2.5 megs of video RAM wasn't enough to even DRAW the desktop at 32-bit, regardless of LCD type. | 07:29 |
| fargiolas | another thing, did anything change with restricted drivers, kernel module management? I had nvperfkit nvidia drivers installed manually and intrepid uses them with no complain and lists them in restricted manager.. that surely did not happen in hardy | 07:29 |
| DanaG | I'm not entirely sure about that panel, actualy. | 07:29 |
| DanaG | Odd: no 3D DRI. Direct Rendering: no. | 07:30 |
| RAOF | Yeah, that's right. | 07:30 |
| RAOF | You'll need to do more than install my packages to get 3d (and 3d is hideously unfinished for < nv3x). | 07:31 |
| RAOF | I don't distribute the 3d part in deference to upstream's wishes. | 07:31 |
| DanaG | Aah. What's the reasoning? | 07:32 |
| RAOF | You can play with the gallium-0.1 branch of their mesa tree, if you want; it's fairly easy (nouveau wiki has details) | 07:32 |
| DanaG | Eeh, on a GPU that old, on a spare system, it's not worth bothering with. | 07:32 |
| RAOF | DanaG: The reasoning? It's horribly unfinished, the devs know it, and shipping it in a package gives an untrue impression of supportedness. | 07:32 |
| RAOF | Basically, they don't need testing of the 3d; there's tons of easy work to do. | 07:33 |
| DanaG | Aah. | 07:33 |
| DanaG | Zwhoa, suspend and resume worked. | 07:34 |
| DanaG | Yes, "Zwhoa" | 07:35 |
| RAOF | What, with nouveau? LIES! | 07:35 |
| DanaG | Yeah, with nouveau. | 07:35 |
| DanaG | Perhaps Ubuntu's scripts did something about it. | 07:35 |
| DanaG | Heh, and my ssh session into the box also resumed. | 07:35 |
| RAOF | Hm. Maybe the 'support some sort of suspend/resume with < nv3x' patches got into the main tree. | 07:36 |
| DanaG | Does Nouveau get along with nvidiafb? | 07:37 |
| fargiolas | another little question: is there a way to get boot messages back while waitning for the uvesafb bug to be fixed? | 07:37 |
| RAOF | Very much no. | 07:37 |
| RAOF | fargiolas: For you, yes. Just remove the 'splash' from your grub line. | 07:38 |
| fargiolas | RAOF: no splash in the grub line, "ro quiet vga=791" | 07:38 |
| RAOF | fargiolas: Oh, then you can remove the vga bit. | 07:38 |
| RAOF | That's not going to work until uvesafb is fixed! | 07:39 |
| fargiolas | RAOF: thanks that's what I wanted to know :P (too lazy to try it ;)) let's remove that vga bit then | 07:39 |
| DanaG | Odd... after DPMS power off and restore... it goes back to being all flickery. | 07:47 |
| * RAOF is frankly amazed that it survived a suspend. | 07:48 | |
| RAOF | Oh, the other thing nouveau can get you is kernel modesetting on nv5x, should I build drm from that particular branch. | 07:48 |
| DanaG | NV5? What's that one? | 07:49 |
| DanaG | Oh yeah, I think the flickering is just the LCD warming up. | 07:49 |
| DanaG | This LCD in that laptop is really odd... | 07:49 |
| RAOF | nv5x. AKA g80/g90, AKA geforce {8,9} | 07:49 |
| DanaG | Picture this: take every set of adjacent frames sent to the thing, and apply a horizontal-blinds effect between them. | 07:49 |
| DanaG | Aah, I don't own such a card; after my 7600, I'm going to ATI next. | 07:50 |
| LSD|Ninja | Is Network Manager failing to automatically reconnect to a wireless network after a remote disconnect (as in, an AP/router crash) a bug or a feature? | 08:13 |
| LSD|Ninja | Also, why does an auto-hidden task bar cause windows to move upward/downward when it rolls in/out? | 08:21 |
| DanaG | Hmm, does the packaged Murrine now do transparency? | 08:41 |
| DanaG | I'm getting semitransparent menubars and such. | 08:42 |
| Sebastian | Is http://phpfi.com/344807 a known issue? | 08:42 |
| Sebastian | (Or maybe there is no issue) | 08:43 |
| RAOF | DanaG: Yes. | 08:43 |
| vpelcak | hi all | 08:45 |
| zniavre | DanaG: and roundness menu for application with plugins (rhythmbox eg) | 08:48 |
| DanaG | Roundness menu? | 08:49 |
| zniavre | yes :o) | 08:49 |
| DanaG | I'm asking what you mean; that's not a yes or no question. =P | 08:49 |
| DanaG | Argh, Xorg is using 40% CPU, and making everything slow. | 08:49 |
| zniavre | menu with radius | 08:49 |
| zniavre | wait a shaot 2sec | 08:50 |
| zniavre | shot* | 08:50 |
| zniavre | http://img28.picoodle.com/data/img28/3/8/18/f_radiusmenum_50466df.jpg | 08:51 |
| DanaG | Ugh, at 40% CPU, it's way not usable. | 08:51 |
| DanaG | Aah, "rounded" | 08:51 |
| zniavre | sorry | 08:51 |
| zniavre | rounded >added to brain | 08:51 |
| DanaG | Or you could say "rounded corners on menus" or something like that. | 08:52 |
| zniavre | ok | 08:52 |
| DanaG | I wish I could get the Murrine engine to match the Nodoka engine as closely as looks good (and I actually LIKE the rounded scrollbars in Nodoka). | 08:53 |
| DanaG | http://picpaste.com/screenshot-orange-nodoka.png | 08:53 |
| DanaG | http://picpaste.com/screenshot-orange-nodoka-2.png | 08:53 |
| DanaG | There's a slight difference there. | 08:54 |
| DanaG | Is nouveau not doing acceleration on Composite, or is it just that that video chip is weaksauce? (heh, weaksauce.) | 08:55 |
| RAOF | DanaG: Nouveau _should_ be accelerating Composite; check in Xorg.0.log that it's enabled (and ensure that ShadowFB isn't). | 08:56 |
| DanaG | It's also a weak CPU; P4-Celeron 1.6GHz. | 08:56 |
| DanaG | I like orange; it's a cool color. | 08:58 |
| DanaG | It says composite is enabled; enabling overlay with smart blitter fallback. | 08:59 |
| RAOF | Why not pastebin the log; that's always fun. | 09:00 |
| zniavre | Nouveau the free nvidia driver is in intrepid ? | 09:00 |
| bazhang | !info nouveau | 09:01 |
| ubottu | Package nouveau does not exist in intrepid | 09:01 |
| zniavre | :o( | 09:01 |
| zniavre | thank you bazhang | 09:01 |
| LSD|Ninja | zniavre: Don't bother with it yet, you're better odff sticking with nv | 09:01 |
| RAOF | !nouveau | zniavre this is what you're thinking of | 09:01 |
| ubottu | zniavre this is what you're thinking of: Nouveau is an experimental open-source nVidia driver, aiming for full 3d support. Homepage at http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/ - EXPERIMENTAL packages at https://launchpad.net/~raof/+archive | 09:01 |
| LSD|Ninja | Nouveau doesn't do 3D yet and only barely works in 2D. Without 3D support it really is no better than nv | 09:02 |
| RAOF | LSD|Ninja: "Barely does 2d" isn't really accurate, unless you're talking about nv5x. | 09:03 |
| LSD|Ninja | RAOF: Even the team behind it don't guarantee the 2D half, they say as much on their site | 09:04 |
| RAOF | Right. Guarantee != barely works. | 09:04 |
| RAOF | It's certainly still experimental, and things can (and occasionally do) break. | 09:05 |
| RAOF | But it's quite usable for 2d right now; much of the breakage is 'it doesn't build against $NEW_KERNEL_VERSION' | 09:06 |
| LSD|Ninja | Point still stands though, if you're going in to it thinking it's a silver bullet for nVidia ills you're going to be sorely disappointed | 09:06 |
| RAOF | Right. | 09:06 |
| DanaG | I wouldn't mind the binary drivers on this old laptop.... but they don't work at all. Won't even start Xorg. | 09:07 |
| RAOF | Although I'd be happy to recommend it to anyone who's satisfied with nv (and has a card older than a geforce 8) | 09:07 |
| DanaG | s/this/the/ | 09:07 |
| DanaG | I'd say, use nouveau only for things not supported by 173 or 177 drivers. | 09:07 |
| LSD|Ninja | It has no advantage over nv atm though, there's really no point in going to all the trouble to get it going | 09:07 |
| DanaG | Isn't it supposedly better at 2D? | 09:08 |
| DanaG | ... or is it not really? | 09:08 |
| RAOF | It's faster, and has better quality stuff. And possibly does dual-head better, but I haven't tested recent nv. | 09:08 |
| DanaG | I'd believe that it does look better. | 09:08 |
| RAOF | Certainly on an 18-bit panel it will; it's got better dithering. | 09:08 |
| LSD|Ninja | It still looks/feels as crap as nV here | 09:09 |
| RAOF | It's got blob-equivalent dithering. I'm not quite sure why nv doesn't do that, actually. | 09:09 |
| DanaG | Heh, now some workstation laptops are coming out with full 24-bit panels. | 09:09 |
| DanaG | That's 8 bits per color. | 09:09 |
| LSD|Ninja | I doubt most people could really tell teh diff between an 18 bit and a 24 bit panel. Those that can probably shouldn't be using LCDs anyway. | 09:10 |
| DanaG | HP has a "DreamColor" desktop monitor with 10 bits per pixel (and thus 30 bit color). | 09:10 |
| DanaG | oh yeah, pastebin: http://pastebin.com/f3724ac39 | 09:10 |
| RAOF | LSD|Ninja: You're right; my external LCD is 24bit, my laptop is 18bit. Once proper dithering is turned on, I can't tell the difference (in their colour reproduction, at least). | 09:10 |
| RAOF | It's easy to notice broken dithering, though, and nv has broken dithering. | 09:11 |
| DanaG | I do find it funny that my 17" laptop LCD is so much dimmer than the LCDs on every one of the 4 or so old laptops we have around here. | 09:12 |
| DanaG | Eeh, it's not "so much"... but it definitely is dimmer. | 09:15 |
| Lunks | Hey =) some keys are missing from my keyboard since going to intrepid. | 09:16 |
| Lunks | I mean, just one. | 09:16 |
| bronson | Drat, the FF print dialog shows up all black in Compiz. | 09:18 |
| bronson | Looks like I need to turn desktop effects off in Intrepid too. | 09:18 |
| === BaD-Laptop is now known as BaD_CrC | ||
| LSD|Ninja | At least you can turn them on :P | 09:18 |
| Lunks | And I also got a fireworks show on second restart instead of the ubuntu loading screen. | 09:18 |
| DanaG | Somebody needs to put that Evdev thingy in the topic of the channel. | 09:18 |
| Lunks | DanaG: already set as evde | 09:18 |
| Lunks | DanaG: already set as evdev* | 09:18 |
| bronson | LSD|Ninja, true. | 09:18 |
| bronson | I'd trade with someone who really wants effects. | 09:19 |
| bronson | I don't really care about them so if they're buggy at all, off they go. | 09:19 |
| bronson | erm, evdev thingy? | 09:20 |
| DanaG | yeah, setting keyboard to "evdev managed keyboard" | 09:22 |
| DanaG | Lunks: whaddaya' mean by "missing" -- that can actually be interpreted or defined several ways. | 09:22 |
| Lunks | missing as in I press it and it's just ain't there. | 09:23 |
| Lunks | missing as in I press it and it's just ain't there. | 09:23 |
| DanaG | What key? | 09:23 |
| Lunks | haha that should be tricky | 09:23 |
| Lunks | / question mark | 09:23 |
| Lunks | well, / | 09:24 |
| Lunks | question mark on shift. well, I believe you know what I'm talking about. :P | 09:24 |
| DanaG | Aah. | 09:24 |
| DanaG | Funky. | 09:24 |
| Lunks | So far, I've only missed this one. | 09:25 |
| Lunks | You are probably aware of this, but apart from it, keyboard is set correctly. | 09:26 |
| === fargiolas|afk is now known as fargiolas | ||
| DanaG | 1:35 AM here. Time for bed. | 09:35 |
| Lunks | haha | 09:36 |
| DanaG | Well past time, in fact. | 09:37 |
| Lunks | 05h37, bed time converted on intrepid | 09:37 |
| DanaG | !info fancontrol | 09:38 |
| ubottu | Package fancontrol does not exist in intrepid | 09:38 |
| DanaG | odd. | 09:38 |
| DanaG | Somehow I have a 'fancontrol' running. | 09:39 |
| DanaG | !find fancontrol | 09:39 |
| ubottu | File fancontrol found in lm-sensors | 09:39 |
| DanaG | aah. | 09:39 |
| zniavre | speedfan may be ? | 09:39 |
| s0u][ight | hi guys | 10:35 |
| vpelcak | hi all | 10:46 |
| vpelcak | I upgraded to Ibex (to help with bugreporting), but now i cannot boot. I ran failsafe and it stopped at configuration of network interfaces. How can i skip it? I sonnect to wpa encrypted wifi by using knetworkmanager after login. | 10:48 |
| Lunks | vpelcak: have you tried safe mode? | 10:50 |
| Lunks | oh you did | 10:50 |
| Lunks | you can probably use a livecd and chroot to your installation | 10:50 |
| Lunks | then remove networks from startup (forgot the cmdline) | 10:51 |
| AnRkey | is there a reason why a qt based app cant see any printers in 8.04.1? | 11:12 |
| joaopinto | AnRkey, this channel is for intrepid , not Hardy | 11:14 |
| gnomefreak | AnRkey: please ask in #ubuntu | 11:17 |
| gnomefreak | or better yet #kubuntu | 11:17 |
| === jtechidna is now known as JontheEchidna | ||
| mifritscher | hi | 12:47 |
| mifritscher | have 2 new problems | 12:47 |
| mifritscher | 1. the backliht keys don't work (ibm x61t) | 12:47 |
| mifritscher | 2. the mosue optioins are ignored now | 12:47 |
| mifritscher | (need them too configure the idle mouse key + stick act as a wheel) | 12:47 |
| mifritscher | ah, and a 3 problem: glxgears is a lot slower | 12:51 |
| vpelcak | Lunks: Sorry for delayed reply, I was busy. Is there any other way to interrupt network setup during boot? | 12:52 |
| mifritscher | but openarena works fine | 12:52 |
| === fargiola` is now known as fargiolas | ||
| mifritscher | where can I but these settings now? | 13:08 |
| vpelcak | mifritscher: try "glxinfo | grep render" | 13:21 |
| mifritscher | k | 13:26 |
| mifritscher | seems to be ok | 13:26 |
| mifritscher | direct rendering: yes | 13:26 |
| mifritscher | the renderer is intel dri | 13:26 |
| mifritscher | the only error message is Failed to initialize TTM buffer manager. Falling back to classic. | 13:26 |
| mifritscher | a 4. Problem: Rotation lasts a lot longer now... | 14:20 |
| Pici | !bugs | 14:20 |
| ubottu | If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu - Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots | 14:20 |
| mifritscher | Pici: was that an answer to mee? | 14:27 |
| mifritscher | I'm already active there ;) | 14:27 |
| IdleOne | have not received any updates in a couple days. is this normal or is there some sort of freeze going on? | 15:25 |
| Pici | My updates have been coming in fine.. | 15:26 |
| IdleOne | hmmm | 15:26 |
| IdleOne | I was not able to boot up this morning with latest kernel | 15:26 |
| IdleOne | but last update I got had some xorg updates in it also | 15:27 |
| IdleOne | so not sure which is the issue | 15:27 |
| IdleOne | 2.6.26-5-generic shows me the splash screen and load bar but then I get a black screen | 15:28 |
| IdleOne | so I assume it is xorg issue | 15:28 |
| IdleOne | Pici, when was your last update? | 15:29 |
| IdleOne | strange I just started update-manager and am getting 13 updates. but not getting the notification icon in panel | 15:31 |
| Pici | IdleOne: I just got one no | 15:31 |
| Pici | w | 15:31 |
| IdleOne | guess the update icon is broke | 15:31 |
| mvo | IdleOne: have you applied the udpates yet? if not, could you please run /usr/share/update-notifier/apt-check ? | 16:27 |
| Lunks | vpelcak: not sure. I mean, you have to have access to your hdd | 16:27 |
| Lunks | and if you have it, just using a livecd should be the easier, if not, the only way | 16:27 |
| IdleOne | mvo, : /usr/share/update-notifier/apt-check: No such file or directory | 16:28 |
| skel | can anyone with a digg account please check out this link and vote for it if you feel its worthy: http://digg.com/software/Open_Source_software_sold_with_violated_GPL_license =] | 16:29 |
| IdleOne | firefox is acting up big time. | 16:30 |
| mvo | IdleOne: sorry, /usr/lib/update-notifier/apt-check is the correct path | 16:31 |
| IdleOne | mvo, ok it's done | 16:31 |
| IdleOne | no updates | 16:31 |
| IdleOne | be back later | 16:33 |
| hdevalence | Does Kubuntu Intrepid use KDE 4.1? | 17:15 |
| JontheEchidna | Yes | 17:18 |
| hdevalence | JontheEchidna: sweet, thanks | 17:18 |
| JontheEchidna | You're welcome | 17:19 |
| Turski | is kde3 still available for interpid? | 17:19 |
| JontheEchidna | Nope | 17:19 |
| JontheEchidna | Only where a stable release of an app doesn't exist, like k3b for example | 17:20 |
| JontheEchidna | or konversation | 17:20 |
| JontheEchidna | etc | 17:20 |
| Turski | ok.. | 17:20 |
| === fargiolas is now known as fargiolas|afk | ||
| qaws | hi, are there any updates in Intrepid last week? | 18:37 |
| === fargiolas|afk is now known as fargiolas | ||
| Muppeteer | Hai guise | 19:12 |
| === Muppeteer is now known as Mountainjew | ||
| asfak | adept manager is not working in kub8.10 alpha4 | 19:32 |
| asfak | no gdebi like in Kubuntu 8.10 ? | 19:34 |
| fyrestrtr | is the new theme finalized? | 19:42 |
| Ayabara | !info digikam-kde4 | 20:00 |
| ubottu | digikam-kde4 (source: digikam-kde4): digital photo management application for KDE 4. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10.0~beta1-0ubuntu2 (intrepid), package size 9759 kB, installed size 24100 kB | 20:00 |
| === jtechidna is now known as JontheEchidna | ||
| e\ectro_ | /quit | 20:43 |
| PolitikerALT | I got a problem with firefox/swfdec (+flashblock): Whenever a flash item appears, I get an additional window (with no title). If I close it, firefox closes/crashes (?) too. | 20:59 |
| === regel is now known as Regel | ||
| PolitikerALT | my system boot time is really long; especially vol_id it taking a long time - can anybody have a glance at my bootchart and maybe tell me what to do? http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/8355/intrepid200808168ls0.png | 21:09 |
| e\ectro_ | looks like there is an issue with cairo-dock | 21:30 |
| fargiolas | is there any known problem with nautilus and drag and drop? I cannot move files nor copy them nor change icon position with the mouse | 21:36 |
| dupondje | Is there a channel for the network manager ? | 21:51 |
| === fargiolas is now known as fargiolas|afk | ||
| mifritscher | re | 22:39 |
| mifritscher | found the solution about the middle button-scroll: http://mvogt.wordpress.com/2008/08/15/xorg-evdev-and-emulatewheel/ | 22:39 |
| mifritscher | perhaps that could be included? | 22:39 |
| tomasko | did adobe flash plugin + firefox just suddenly getting really slow for anyone else? | 23:20 |
| tomasko | sites that worked well with flash just a few days ago suddenly display _all actions_ (clickable buttons, streaming video, etc.) very slowly | 23:21 |
| Lunks | Hey, I've got new weird things Intrepid has been making to my computer. | 23:25 |
| Lunks | Instead of a loading screen, I get retro-art (really cool b/w patterns) | 23:26 |
| Lunks | And fn+f7, fn+f8 which controls brightness aren't detected by Ubuntu, so no fancy brightness level | 23:27 |
| tomasko | Lunks: you may need to configure such things with xev and xmonad | 23:35 |
| Lunks | I'm sorry, I didn't understand tomasko | 23:36 |
| tomasko | if you're using gnome, i can't really say what you need to do to configure it. the only reason i'm on intrepid is that kde 4.1 is on it stock | 23:36 |
| tomasko | er, sorry not xmonad, xmodmap | 23:39 |
| Lunks | But what does xev do | 23:39 |
| tomasko | xev gives you keycodes to keys like fn and f7 | 23:39 |
| fyrestrtr | if you are on a thinkpad, just install thinkkeys | 23:39 |
| Lunks | XLookupString gives 0 bytes: | 23:40 |
| tomasko | you use xmodmap to assign them to names like Menu, etc. found in a header file on your system... the name of which is escaping me | 23:41 |
| Lunks | state 0x0, keycode 97 (keysym 0xff24, Romaji), same_screen YES, | 23:41 |
| tomasko | then in your window manager, you would ask it to use whatever "Menu" maps to as a shortcut for an action like open up the menu, etc. | 23:41 |
| tomasko | Lunks: yes, the 97 is relevant | 23:41 |
| tomasko | Lunks: google around for xev and xmodmap, there are tons of resources on this | 23:42 |
| tomasko | hmm, well again.. giving but not getting anything. later | 23:42 |
| Lunks | And he didn't ask anything | 23:43 |
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