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| dholbach | good morning | 06:44 |
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| stefanlsd | gotta go to work. cya guys later :) | 07:42 |
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| asac | dholbach: hey. one question: why do we release team reports before the month is actually over? | 09:37 |
| asac | e.g. team report august: 22nd | 09:37 |
| asac | ? | 09:37 |
| dholbach | asac: good question, best to ask Mr Bacon about it :) | 09:38 |
| asac | dholbach: is he ever online ;)? | 09:38 |
| dholbach | yes, he should be back any minute | 09:39 |
| dholbach | woohooo! the first team documented the packages they track on harvest! | 09:40 |
| dholbach | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SugarTeam/GettingInvolved | 09:40 |
| asac | nice | 09:42 |
| dholbach | asac: should the recent diggler work with firefox-3? just reviewing a merge that still has firefox-2 in the Depends | 10:08 |
| asac | dholbach: in intrepid we dont want to do anything for firefox 2 ... we will remove it | 10:09 |
| dholbach | so? update to firefox-3? | 10:09 |
| dholbach | bug 254614 | 10:09 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 254614 in diggler "Please merge diggler 0.9-16 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)." [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/254614 | 10:09 |
| cpufreak | should there be a firefox-3-dbg package btw? | 10:11 |
| * cpufreak was looking for debugging symbols in hardy for ff last night, just found the ones for firefox-2 | 10:11 | |
| asac | dholbach: ok updated | 10:12 |
| dholbach | asac: did you use the patch in the package or did you do an upload of your own? | 10:12 |
| asac | dholbach: i updated the bug ;) | 10:13 |
| dholbach | asac: ah! thanks! :) | 10:13 |
| Ng | asac: did you get a chance to play with openvpn? :) | 10:13 |
| asac | Ng: not yet. setting up a openvpn thing appears to be still the blocking barrier ;) | 10:14 |
| Ng | hmm, perhaps I can do something about that, since I particularly want this fixed ;) | 10:14 |
| asac | lol ... see how it works ;) | 10:15 |
| Ng | I can probably set up a VM at home. access won't be particularly fast, but you only need to be able to connect to it and ping the other end and everything else should be fine | 10:15 |
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| lool | ISTR some people were complaining about the new listadmin reporting "nothing in queue" incorrectly | 10:52 |
| lool | This seems to be http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=495006 which is fixed in 2.40-2.2 | 10:53 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 495006 in listadmin "listadmin: 2.40 update broke it against Mailman-2.1.9/etch" [Grave,Open] | 10:53 |
| lool | i'll file a sync request | 10:53 |
| thibs | hi | 10:56 |
| thibs | I just wanted to know if an RSS feed exists that broadcasts every new package update for a given release ? | 10:57 |
| lool | jpds: Hmm your latest changes break requestsync | 10:57 |
| thibs | like, I'd like to subscribe to hardy-updates feed | 10:57 |
| lool | jpds: print sys.stderr, >> "Could not connect to mailserver %s at port %s: %s (%i)" % \ | 10:57 |
| RAOF | thibs: Yes; eg | 10:57 |
| RAOF | http://feeds.ubuntu-nl.org/IntrepidChanges | 10:57 |
| jpds | lool: Oh dear, wrong way round, just a sec. | 10:58 |
| thibs | RAOF, cool! Is it a special feature provided by ubuntu-nl lug or is it "official" ? | 10:58 |
| thibs | RAOF, I mean... is this feed maintained by ubuntu-nl guys or is it a replication of an official one ? | 11:01 |
| jpds | lool: ubuntu-dev-tools_0.40ubuntu2_source.changes - uploaded. | 11:02 |
| lool | jpds: thanks | 11:02 |
| lool | jpds: Did you push to lp? | 11:03 |
| jpds | lool: Yes. | 11:03 |
| lool | I see no new revisions in ubuntu-dev-tools | 11:03 |
| jpds | lp:ubuntu-dev-tools at revision 176. | 11:04 |
| lool | Ah finally got it | 11:04 |
| lool | I didn't know there was any delay; I thought bzr pushes were immediately completed when they happened | 11:04 |
| lool | jpds: NameError: global name 'urllib2' is not defined | 11:05 |
| jpds | lool: Are you reuploading or should I? | 11:10 |
| lool | jpds: I did | 11:14 |
| jpds | lool: Thanks, sorry for the problem. | 11:14 |
| lool | I was wondering whether I had any choice than remove usage of urrlib to fix another issue I saw | 11:15 |
| lool | http://paste.ubuntu.com/38460/ | 11:16 |
| lool | NB I'm using a https_proxy which is a problem for many python apps | 11:16 |
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| Keybuk | today I shall remember to test packages before uploading them ;) | 11:45 |
| ogra | haha | 11:47 |
| thom | Keybuk: why change the habit of a lifetime? ;) | 11:56 |
| * ogra curses loudy about horizontal scrolling for touchpads being enabled *again* by default ... grrr ... that renders my windowlist unusable | 11:58 | |
| ogra | *grrrr* and why dont we have any way to disable horizontal scrolling via UI | 12:02 |
| N_I_K_A | ГЫ | 12:30 |
| TheMuso | /c | 12:31 |
| N_I_K_A | пока бесы!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | 12:32 |
| N_I_K_A | дцлкпешщфхцргкщшзщшлн7эзежщоаипрлщижиллиаррлрилипмлилилбилплеждщтряоелри длбтспат пт ппт птапт 515241425с1 452м1т452 14т521пм т52152 т125мпи1т 452п1 251п4т5 1п4т5 214п52т14 5пт 5п52т 13пм1т4 35см2пт415пма1т 3асп14т 52пми15тап1пт 1452мипт14 5апт14 52пмат 15па4т 5аспт52 аспт 5саптап5тпа4т5а | 12:33 |
| wgrant | !ops | 12:33 |
| ubottu | Help! bhale, infinity, Hobbsee, jdub, thom, fooishbar, fabbione, mdz, lamont, or Keybuk | 12:33 |
| N_I_K_A | дцлкпешщфхцргкщшзщшлн7эзежщоаипрлщижиллиаррлрилипмлилилбилплеждщтряоелри длбтспат пт ппт птапт 515241425с1 452м1т452 14т521пм т52152 т125мпи1т 452п1 251п4т5 1п4т5 214п52т14 5пт 5п52т 13пм1т4 35см2пт415пма1т 3асп14т 52пми15тап1пт 1452мипт14 5апт14 52пмат 15па4т 5аспт52 аспт 5саптап5тпа4т5а | 12:33 |
| N_I_K_A | дцлкпешщфхцргкщшзщшлн7эзежщоаипрлщижиллиаррлрилипмлилилбилплеждщтряоелри длбтспат пт ппт птапт 515241425с1 452м1т452 14т521пм т52152 т125мпи1т 452п1 251п4т5 1п4т5 214п52т14 5пт 5п52т 13пм1т4 35см2пт415пма1т 3асп14т 52пми15тап1пт 1452мипт14 5апт14 52пмат 15па4т 5аспт52 аспт 5саптап5тпа4т5а | 12:33 |
| N_I_K_A | дцлкпешщфхцргкщшзщшлн7эзежщоаипрлщижиллиаррлрилипмлилилбилплеждщтряоелри длбтспат пт ппт птапт 515241425с1 452м1т452 14т521пм т52152 т125мпи1т 452п1 251п4т5 1п4т5 214п52т14 5пт 5п52т 13пм1т4 35см2пт415пма1т 3асп14т 52пми15тап1пт 1452мипт14 5апт14 52пмат 15па4т 5аспт52 аспт 5саптап5тпа4т5а | 12:33 |
| wgrant | Thanks Keybuk. | 12:33 |
| fabbione | that was fast..... | 12:34 |
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| Hobbsee | yay, people. | 12:44 |
| emgent | heya Hobbsee :) | 12:44 |
| Hobbsee | hey emgent | 12:45 |
| raphink | hello Hobbsee | 12:58 |
| Hobbsee | hey raphink! | 12:59 |
| raphink | :) | 12:59 |
| Keybuk | err | 13:00 |
| Keybuk | wtf | 13:00 |
| Keybuk | Your message to ubuntu-devel awaits moderator approval | 13:00 |
| Keybuk | I can't post to ubuntu-devel anymore?! | 13:00 |
| mvo | happend to me when I posted with "mvo@ubuntu.com" but was subscribed as "michael.vogt@ubuntu.com" | 13:00 |
| seb128 | Keybuk: several people complained about that some days ago too | 13:00 |
| Hobbsee | i pity the poor person who next goes thru that list with a working listadmin. | 13:01 |
| Keybuk | but I *am* subscribed | 13:01 |
| Keybuk | with that e-mail address | 13:01 |
| seb128 | Keybuk: as said I read some other similar complains some days ago, I guess something went wrong on the list, would require a list admin to look at the issue | 13:02 |
| tjaalton | ogra: what do you mean "again"? | 13:03 |
| ogra | tjaalton, well, i have that prob every development cycle | 13:04 |
| ogra | tjaalton, and it always ends with one of you X guys patching the driver to not have horizontal scrolling :) | 13:04 |
| Keybuk | seb128: technical issue apparently, elmo fixing :) | 13:04 |
| seb128 | Keybuk: good ;-) | 13:04 |
| tjaalton | ogra: ah, right. the problem seems to be that dexconf used to add HorizEdgeScroll "0" to the conf, but now that the hal fdi file is used, the option is not set | 13:06 |
| ogra | tjaalton, if i click on a buton in the windowlist in my bottom panel and then move to the terminal i brought up with that the windowlist gets a scrolling event from my touchpad if i dont move the pointer exactly vertically away from the windowlist | 13:06 |
| Hobbsee | Keybuk: hmmm. did you cancel? | 13:06 |
| Keybuk | no | 13:06 |
| tjaalton | ogra: anyway, synaptics should support input properties soonish, then you can change the settings runtime | 13:06 |
| ogra | i.e. if my terminal pops up on the top left or right corner i indeed move off the windowlist in a diagonal way | 13:06 |
| * Hobbsee wonders if someone else got their first. | 13:07 | |
| Hobbsee | Keybuk: you posted as scott@canonical.com | 13:07 |
| ogra | which then interprets the horizontal movement and randomly makes the windowlist swithc to another app | 13:07 |
| tjaalton | ogra: yes, the option could be set in the fdi file. let me fix that | 13:07 |
| ogra | thanks :) | 13:07 |
| tjaalton | anyone with a macbook btw? | 13:07 |
| Hobbsee | Keybuk: mail accepted | 13:07 |
| Keybuk | Hobbsee: I did, yes | 13:08 |
| Keybuk | Hobbsee: I generally use that instead of ubuntu.com | 13:08 |
| Hobbsee | which is...subscribed to the list. | 13:08 |
| Keybuk | right, I subscribed as just about every combination I can think of | 13:08 |
| Chipzz | tjaalton: yes, but running osx on it :P | 13:09 |
| Keybuk | since I have my mail client configured to reply with the address I receive | 13:09 |
| Chipzz | so that won't help you I guess? | 13:09 |
| Keybuk | so if someone mails me as scott@ubuntu.com and ccs the list, my reply will be from scott@ubuntu.com | 13:09 |
| Keybuk | and I want it to go through | 13:09 |
| Keybuk | et.c | 13:09 |
| * Hobbsee tries to remember how this section of the lists work | 13:10 | |
| Keybuk | Hobbsee: it was an "open id problem" | 13:10 |
| Hobbsee | Keybuk: ahhh. | 13:10 |
| Hobbsee | Keybuk: so there was yet more breakage from that. | 13:11 |
| bigon | Mithrandir, hi could you renew my telepathy membership (without expiration time is better) | 13:11 |
| tjaalton | Chipzz: right, you'd have to run intrepid ;) | 13:12 |
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| elmo | the LP group address <-> lists.ubuntu.com syncing was broken by some openID upgrades | 13:14 |
| elmo | I've fixed it and the moderation should be back to normal; sorry about that | 13:14 |
| elmo | Keybuk et al.: ^-- | 13:14 |
| seb128 | elmo: thanks | 13:15 |
| ogra | works fine | 13:15 |
| * ogra just mailed -devel | 13:15 | |
| Keybuk | elmo: thanks for your fast work ;) | 13:16 |
| Hobbsee | elmo: cool, thanks | 13:16 |
| * Hobbsee shoves a whole bunch of stuff out of the moderation queue | 13:16 | |
| * thorwil seems to get the same mails again and again. bad cross-posting | 13:18 | |
| Hobbsee | thorwil: yeah, not sure why people cross-post to -devel and -devel-discuss :( | 13:19 |
| thorwil | Hobbsee: indeed. but then i tried to keep what was in CC to not break threads and got into moderation :} | 13:21 |
| ScottK | elmo: Thanks. | 13:21 |
| Hobbsee | thorwil: yeah, well. usually, people go thru u-d queue more regularly - but listadmin is broken ;( | 13:21 |
| Hobbsee | so i doubt people are doing much with it | 13:21 |
| pwnguin | so is -discuss intended to be a spill over from moderation? | 13:24 |
| Hobbsee | no | 13:25 |
| Hobbsee | # https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelModeration | 13:25 |
| thorwil | - discuss is just open, not moderated and can hence be expected to be less focused | 13:26 |
| pwnguin | well, as long as I don't need to look for replies on -discuss, I think I'll just duck the less focused conversation ;) | 13:28 |
| thorwil | so my scrollbar concept has a fan who posted a brainstorm idea, filed a bug, a blueprint and had to hit 3 ubuntu lists at once | 13:29 |
| pwnguin | heh | 13:29 |
| thorwil | i hope it's someone else who made a topic on the forum | 13:29 |
| pwnguin | the thing about the scrollbar is that it's not very obvious by just looking at it | 13:30 |
| ramvi | What directory are the startup applications in? Customizing a livecd.. | 13:39 |
| ln- | why the zero-width no-break space? | 13:40 |
| Ng | ln-: I'd guess pasting, some channels I'm in have that at the start of the topic and it's because they've pasted in from something else | 13:41 |
| ln- | i'm wondering how did ramvi manage to begin his line with one. | 13:42 |
| ramvi | ass -- /etc/xdg/autostart | 13:43 |
| Mithrandir | bigon: done | 13:57 |
| bigon | thx | 13:57 |
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| * ogra hugs tjaalton | 14:37 | |
| ogra | thanks a lot | 14:37 |
| tjaalton | ogra: np, noticed that upstream now has properies support for synaptics, but it'll take a while to get in :) | 14:38 |
| ogra | i whish i could get evtouch to work ... then i'd be happy all over ... but i get no feedback at all, not even on the hal ML | 14:38 |
| tjaalton | does the driver load? | 14:39 |
| ogra | and either ith my own hacked up fdi file nor with my old xorg.conf it works | 14:39 |
| ogra | X got stuck the last time i tried it ... | 14:39 |
| tjaalton | ok.. | 14:39 |
| ogra | i havent had the time to try with the latest upload yet | 14:39 |
| ogra | i saw there was one last week or so | 14:39 |
| ogra | err. oh | 14:40 |
| ogra | you fixed the same thing i fixed before ? | 14:41 |
| ogra | did i do anything worng in my upload ? | 14:41 |
| tjaalton | there was another reference to it | 14:41 |
| * ogra just checked the changelog | 14:41 | |
| tjaalton | check the bug too :) | 14:41 |
| ogra | oh, right :) | 14:42 |
| ogra | hmm, i should test my fdi again then := | 14:43 |
| tjaalton | could you post it somewhere so I can have a look? | 14:43 |
| ogra | just trying to find out where i got it | 14:44 |
| ogra | it was simply a ripoff of the wacom file matching the device and using evtouch | 14:45 |
| ogra | that worked fine, just made xorg hardlock | 14:45 |
| ogra | but i saw it being loaded | 14:45 |
| ogra | in the log | 14:45 |
| ogra | grrr | 14:47 |
| ogra | paste.ubuntu.com thinks it is php and i want to do anything evil | 14:47 |
| tjaalton | heh | 14:47 |
| ogra | http://paste.ubuntu.com/38506/ | 14:48 |
| ogra | tsk ... three dots help | 14:48 |
| tjaalton | yeah, looks ok | 14:49 |
| ogra | i'll put it back and try | 14:49 |
| ogra | yay ! | 14:56 |
| ogra | events ! | 14:56 |
| ion_ | Mmm... Events. | 14:57 |
| ogra | tjaalton, http://paste.ubuntu.com/38511/ | 14:57 |
| ogra | had to change it to info.capabilities contains="input.touchpad" | 14:57 |
| ogra | now i got events ... totally off and uncalibrated but thats a major step forward | 14:57 |
| tjaalton | cool | 14:57 |
| ogra | now to find out how i get the claibration data into the fdi file | 14:58 |
| mvo | ogra: events! events! events! (/me throws a chair) | 14:58 |
| ogra | lol | 14:58 |
| tjaalton | ogra: input.x11_options.Foo | 14:59 |
| ogra | thanks ! | 14:59 |
| * ogra tries | 15:00 | |
| tjaalton | you can set any option that way | 15:00 |
| tjaalton | always use type=string | 15:00 |
| tjaalton | hum, gotta run -> | 15:00 |
| ogra | thanks so much ! | 15:00 |
| ogra | sweet !!! | 15:04 |
| ogra | hmm, why doesnt compiz respect my sloppy focus setting :/ | 15:06 |
| ogra | hmm, xrandr doesnt reall ylike me yet | 15:16 |
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| BenC | Am I the only one experiencing corrupted mbox's after an intrepid update of evo? | 16:20 |
| pwnguin | you might be the only one using evo ;) | 16:20 |
| ogra | not really | 16:21 |
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| YokoZar | ScottK: poke | 16:28 |
| BenC | pwnguin: Then I could honestly say the bug was directed at _me_ :) | 16:32 |
| pwnguin | heh | 16:33 |
| pwnguin | novell is conspiring to break benC's ubuntu! | 16:34 |
| asac | Ng: does the latest nm from PPA change anything ... do you see any regressions besides from vpn? | 16:35 |
| asac | (e.g. snapshot from today) | 16:35 |
| Ng | asac: I'll check | 16:39 |
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| kees | when is the ex-platform team meeting usually? | 17:14 |
| james_w | kees: wednesday 22:00 UTC | 17:15 |
| kees | james_w: okay, cool. I need to swing by with some questions -- is there an agenda I can add myself to? | 17:18 |
| james_w | kees: drop a mail to Colin | 17:18 |
| ScottK | IIRC he's on vaction this week. | 17:19 |
| james_w | ScottK: nope, he's back by then | 17:20 |
| ScottK | OK. | 17:20 |
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| BenC | Just in case anyone was wondering, I fixed my evo problem by deleting all the indexes and meta data in .evolution/mail/local/ | 18:23 |
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| cody-somerville | How does popcorn know if people use a package regularly? | 20:54 |
| Spads | cody-somerville: something to do with the heat of the oil when it pops, I think. | 20:55 |
| tedg | The gnomes tell the kernels when they're done. That's why KDE people eat pretzels. | 20:56 |
| geser | cody-somerville: iirc it checks the atime | 21:05 |
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| james_w | seb128: I've sent a patch for gnome-session upstream. Should I milestone the Ubuntu bug so that we can fix it directly if it doesn't make it in to a release in time? | 22:06 |
| james_w | seb128: bug 258145 | 22:06 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 258145 in gnome-session "gnome-session-properties fails to create entries if .config/autostart is missing" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/258145 | 22:06 |
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| seb128 | james_w: hi, thanks, you can milestone it but don't use nomination that's not required | 22:47 |
| james_w | seb128: you mean not "Nominate for release", but add a beta milestone? | 22:47 |
| seb128 | yes | 22:47 |
| james_w | is beta correct do you think? | 22:47 |
| bbs | what is the next release after hardy -- the one in development | 22:47 |
| james_w | bbs: intrepid ibex | 22:48 |
| seb128 | yes, don't really matter, any milestone between now and intrepid will do | 22:48 |
| LaserJock | bbs: Intrepid | 22:48 |
| james_w | seb128: great, thanks | 22:48 |
| seb128 | the patch is trivial enough | 22:48 |
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| bbs | LaserJock: whats the sources.list | 22:48 |
| bbs | ibex or intrepid | 22:48 |
| james_w | bbs: intrepid | 22:49 |
| jpds | bbs: intrepid and please visit #ubuntu+1 too for problems with it and other discussion. | 22:49 |
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