| paradyne | hi folks | 05:06 |
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| paradyne | anyone awake? | 05:06 |
| paradyne | I can see that this isn't support, so I will prefix this with "I've been to the main channel, but there is not a soul there who has an idea of how to fix this issue" | 05:07 |
| paradyne | Using a Dell Inspiron 700m, I'm noticing (through googling as well) that Laptops are not responding will to 8.04 | 05:07 |
| paradyne | there seems to be an issue around installing using SATA modules for an IDE chipset | 05:08 |
| paradyne | help? | 05:08 |
| paradyne | UnNaturalHigh: hello neighbour | 05:29 |
| UnNaturalHigh | hi | 05:29 |
| paradyne | Calgary, eh? | 05:29 |
| paradyne | me too | 05:29 |
| UnNaturalHigh | sweet, where abouts? | 05:29 |
| paradyne | Marda Loop | 05:30 |
| UnNaturalHigh | ahhh, right by mt royal | 05:30 |
| paradyne | you? | 05:30 |
| paradyne | you bet | 05:30 |
| UnNaturalHigh | I live in Royal Oak | 05:30 |
| paradyne | nice | 05:30 |
| paradyne | are you in the know re: ubuntu on a laptop? | 05:30 |
| UnNaturalHigh | yes I am | 05:30 |
| paradyne | I've been through the main chan, but ended up giving more support than I was getting | 05:31 |
| paradyne | mind if I ask you a brain scratcher? | 05:31 |
| UnNaturalHigh | yea, #ubuntu is near useless for everything but installation and basic configuration | 05:31 |
| UnNaturalHigh | sure | 05:31 |
| paradyne | installed 8.04 today, ran for a little while, then my Dell Inspiron 710M froze | 05:31 |
| paradyne | rebooted, ran a terminal with top to see if XORG was hanging, not the case | 05:32 |
| UnNaturalHigh | okay | 05:32 |
| UnNaturalHigh | dmesg? | 05:32 |
| paradyne | nothing useful there yet | 05:32 |
| UnNaturalHigh | anything strange in that? | 05:32 |
| UnNaturalHigh | saying something froze is not really much information | 05:32 |
| paradyne | rebooted to just the terminal, and ran dpkg --configure-a to finish the updates | 05:32 |
| UnNaturalHigh | tail -f /var/log/messages <-- also useful | 05:33 |
| paradyne | terminal starts spitting out "Exception Emask" errors | 05:33 |
| UnNaturalHigh | this is a fresh install? | 05:33 |
| paradyne | you bet | 05:33 |
| UnNaturalHigh | 8.04.1? | 05:33 |
| paradyne | actually, not sure | 05:33 |
| UnNaturalHigh | dbl check | 05:34 |
| paradyne | downloaded from the main ubuntu page on friday | 05:34 |
| paradyne | kernel is 2.6.24-19 | 05:34 |
| UnNaturalHigh | hmmm....most likely is | 05:34 |
| paradyne | so, did some googling around exception emask errors | 05:34 |
| UnNaturalHigh | has your laptop frozen since the original occurrence? | 05:34 |
| paradyne | many times | 05:35 |
| paradyne | I'm booted off the live cd right now | 05:35 |
| UnNaturalHigh | does it freeze from the live cd? | 05:35 |
| paradyne | nope | 05:35 |
| paradyne | beauty of running from a ramdisk | 05:35 |
| paradyne | I would venture | 05:35 |
| UnNaturalHigh | not at all | 05:35 |
| UnNaturalHigh | essentially running from live cd and from the hard disk is that same | 05:35 |
| UnNaturalHigh | *the | 05:35 |
| UnNaturalHigh | have you done an integrity check of your ubuntu cd? | 05:36 |
| paradyne | yup | 05:36 |
| paradyne | everything is a-ok | 05:36 |
| paradyne | so, I did an lspci, and had confirmed that this laptop is an IDE chipset | 05:37 |
| paradyne | the exception emask errors are mentioning sata | 05:37 |
| paradyne | so I'm wondering if the 8.04.1 install is forcing sata modules even though ide is the right one... | 05:37 |
| paradyne | ? | 05:37 |
| UnNaturalHigh | no, ubuntu just uses sata naming conventions for both sata/ide | 05:38 |
| paradyne | ah | 05:38 |
| paradyne | ok, well that takes care of that curiousity | 05:39 |
| UnNaturalHigh | have you tried doing a complete reinstall to see if something strange maybe happened during install? | 05:39 |
| paradyne | I did | 05:39 |
| paradyne | same thing | 05:39 |
| UnNaturalHigh | wow | 05:39 |
| UnNaturalHigh | this is indeed strange | 05:39 |
| paradyne | error only occurs when the hard drive is under "load" | 05:39 |
| paradyne | eg: apt-get upgrade or running the update manager | 05:39 |
| paradyne | I can feel the laptop starting to grind to a halt as my mouse movements get slow, my keyboard input sometimes doesn't take, and I cannot switch between windows | 05:40 |
| UnNaturalHigh | god, I don't even really know what to say it sounds like you are having a lot of problems | 05:42 |
| UnNaturalHigh | have you considered trying another distro | 05:42 |
| UnNaturalHigh | such as Fedora | 05:42 |
| UnNaturalHigh | ? | 05:42 |
| paradyne | I've got my Woody disc here, but it's always such a chore to configure X myself... | 05:42 |
| paradyne | so here's what I'm thinking: download 7.10 and be happy until 8.10 comes out | 05:44 |
| paradyne | or | 05:44 |
| paradyne | re-install xp | 05:44 |
| UnNaturalHigh | you could try to chroot into your ubuntu system from the live cd | 05:44 |
| UnNaturalHigh | then update it | 05:44 |
| paradyne | you're going to have to talk me through that one... | 05:44 |
| UnNaturalHigh | this is what you do | 05:44 |
| UnNaturalHigh | mkdir /mnt/ubuntu | 05:44 |
| paradyne | k | 05:44 |
| UnNaturalHigh | I don't know your partition layout, you will have to tell me | 05:45 |
| paradyne | '/dev/sda2 is the root partition | 05:45 |
| paradyne | and it's mounted at /media/disk right now | 05:45 |
| UnNaturalHigh | ie. /dev/sda1 /boot, /dev/sda2 swap, /dev/sda3 /, /dev/sda4 /home, etc. | 05:45 |
| UnNaturalHigh | I need to know all of the partitions | 05:46 |
| UnNaturalHigh | you will then need to ensure all of them are initially unmounted | 05:46 |
| paradyne | '/dev/sda1 is swap, /dev/sda2 is root, and that's it | 05:46 |
| paradyne | unmounted sda2 | 05:47 |
| UnNaturalHigh | are you sure that is it? | 05:48 |
| UnNaturalHigh | fdisk -l | 05:48 |
| UnNaturalHigh | double check | 05:48 |
| paradyne | positive | 05:49 |
| paradyne | /dev/sda1 1 729 5855661 82 Linux swap / Solaris | 05:49 |
| paradyne | /dev/sda2 730 9729 72292500 83 Linux | 05:49 |
| UnNaturalHigh | for future reference and I would suggest you do it know, you should separate you /boot and /home paritions | 05:49 |
| UnNaturalHigh | and this is the reason for it | 05:49 |
| UnNaturalHigh | your should run your boot partition with ext2 and not have it mount unless needed (speed for the first and security for the second) | 05:50 |
| UnNaturalHigh | and your /home partition should be separate as it usually gets written to much more often plus holds all your personal configuration files | 05:50 |
| paradyne | hmm... never knew this | 05:50 |
| UnNaturalHigh | let me double check how big my / partition is | 05:53 |
| UnNaturalHigh | /boot (128mb), / (15GB), swap (50% of your ram in size), /home (whatever is left) | 05:53 |
| UnNaturalHigh | checking... | 05:53 |
| paradyne | fair enough | 05:53 |
| paradyne | if/when I reformat, I will re-partition | 05:53 |
| UnNaturalHigh | plus if you ever want to change distros or due a fresh install /home is separate and it shouldn't affect your preferences really afterwards | 05:54 |
| paradyne | just goes to show how much of a creature of habit I am | 05:54 |
| UnNaturalHigh | ? | 05:54 |
| UnNaturalHigh | why is that? | 05:54 |
| paradyne | been doing this since 2.2.14 | 05:54 |
| paradyne | in anycase... | 05:55 |
| paradyne | you were mentioning chroot'ing | 05:55 |
| UnNaturalHigh | well really you should have /opt /usr and /var also separate | 05:55 |
| UnNaturalHigh | yes | 05:55 |
| UnNaturalHigh | okay | 05:55 |
| paradyne | or should I just do a fresh install? | 05:55 |
| UnNaturalHigh | it is entirely up to you | 05:55 |
| UnNaturalHigh | I don't really care | 05:55 |
| paradyne | (though it was still cratering then, too) | 05:55 |
| paradyne | k | 05:55 |
| paradyne | keep 'er going then | 05:55 |
| UnNaturalHigh | umount /dev/sda2 | 05:56 |
| UnNaturalHigh | mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/ubuntu | 05:56 |
| UnNaturalHigh | mount -t proc none /mnt/ubuntu/proc | 05:56 |
| UnNaturalHigh | mount --bind /dev /mnt/gentoo/dev | 05:57 |
| UnNaturalHigh | oops | 05:57 |
| UnNaturalHigh | sorry | 05:57 |
| UnNaturalHigh | forget the last line | 05:57 |
| UnNaturalHigh | mount --bind /dev /mnt/ubuntu/dev | 05:57 |
| UnNaturalHigh | should be ubuntu :P | 05:57 |
| paradyne | mount: mount point /mnt/ubuntu/proc does not exist | 05:57 |
| UnNaturalHigh | did you mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/ubuntu | 05:57 |
| UnNaturalHigh | linux cannot work with out proc | 05:57 |
| paradyne | /dev/sda2 69G 180M 65G 1% /mnt/ubuntu | 05:58 |
| paradyne | yup, mounted to /mnt/ubuntu | 05:58 |
| UnNaturalHigh | ls -al /mnt/ubuntu | 05:58 |
| UnNaturalHigh | show me the output | 05:58 |
| paradyne | cdrom, etc, lost+found, media, var | 05:58 |
| paradyne | odd | 05:58 |
| paradyne | no proc | 05:58 |
| UnNaturalHigh | something is seriously wrong with your install | 05:59 |
| paradyne | wee | 05:59 |
| UnNaturalHigh | you are missing many important directories | 05:59 |
| paradyne | yeah... where's bin? | 05:59 |
| paradyne | bin's the life of the party | 05:59 |
| UnNaturalHigh | or /usr for that matter | 05:59 |
| UnNaturalHigh | or /live | 05:59 |
| UnNaturalHigh | /lib | 06:00 |
| paradyne | so... I think I'm going to attempt a re-install tomorrow | 06:00 |
| paradyne | this is way too much like work for a sunday night | 06:00 |
| UnNaturalHigh | you might wanna download a new cd, check it against the md5 sum | 06:00 |
| paradyne | that's a smart idea | 06:00 |
| UnNaturalHigh | burn it and then verify it with the burn utility | 06:00 |
| UnNaturalHigh | I have a feeling your cd is messed up | 06:00 |
| UnNaturalHigh | I have had that problem with other linux distros | 06:00 |
| paradyne | weird | 06:00 |
| UnNaturalHigh | or put ubuntu a usb key and install | 06:00 |
| UnNaturalHigh | super fast to install from a usb key | 06:01 |
| paradyne | net install? | 06:01 |
| UnNaturalHigh | no | 06:02 |
| paradyne | lean install, then/ | 06:02 |
| paradyne | ? | 06:02 |
| paradyne | well... thanks for the help | 06:04 |
| paradyne | gotta turn it in for the night | 06:04 |
| UnNaturalHigh | actually just stick with a new live cd | 06:04 |
| UnNaturalHigh | later | 06:04 |
| paradyne | I'll likely be back tomorrow | 06:04 |
| UnNaturalHigh | cool | 06:04 |
| paradyne | nite, and thanks again | 06:04 |
| UnNaturalHigh | I will check in | 06:04 |
| UnNaturalHigh | np | 06:04 |
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