[05:06] hi folks [05:06] anyone awake? [05:07] I can see that this isn't support, so I will prefix this with "I've been to the main channel, but there is not a soul there who has an idea of how to fix this issue" [05:07] Using a Dell Inspiron 700m, I'm noticing (through googling as well) that Laptops are not responding will to 8.04 [05:08] there seems to be an issue around installing using SATA modules for an IDE chipset [05:08] help? [05:29] UnNaturalHigh: hello neighbour [05:29] hi [05:29] Calgary, eh? [05:29] me too [05:29] sweet, where abouts? [05:30] Marda Loop [05:30] ahhh, right by mt royal [05:30] you? [05:30] you bet [05:30] I live in Royal Oak [05:30] nice [05:30] are you in the know re: ubuntu on a laptop? [05:30] yes I am [05:31] I've been through the main chan, but ended up giving more support than I was getting [05:31] mind if I ask you a brain scratcher? [05:31] yea, #ubuntu is near useless for everything but installation and basic configuration [05:31] sure [05:31] installed 8.04 today, ran for a little while, then my Dell Inspiron 710M froze [05:32] rebooted, ran a terminal with top to see if XORG was hanging, not the case [05:32] okay [05:32] dmesg? [05:32] nothing useful there yet [05:32] anything strange in that? [05:32] saying something froze is not really much information [05:32] rebooted to just the terminal, and ran dpkg --configure-a to finish the updates [05:33] tail -f /var/log/messages <-- also useful [05:33] terminal starts spitting out "Exception Emask" errors [05:33] this is a fresh install? [05:33] you bet [05:33] 8.04.1? [05:33] actually, not sure [05:34] dbl check [05:34] downloaded from the main ubuntu page on friday [05:34] kernel is 2.6.24-19 [05:34] hmmm....most likely is [05:34] so, did some googling around exception emask errors [05:34] has your laptop frozen since the original occurrence? [05:35] many times [05:35] I'm booted off the live cd right now [05:35] does it freeze from the live cd? [05:35] nope [05:35] beauty of running from a ramdisk [05:35] I would venture [05:35] not at all [05:35] essentially running from live cd and from the hard disk is that same [05:35] *the [05:36] have you done an integrity check of your ubuntu cd? [05:36] yup [05:36] everything is a-ok [05:37] so, I did an lspci, and had confirmed that this laptop is an IDE chipset [05:37] the exception emask errors are mentioning sata [05:37] so I'm wondering if the 8.04.1 install is forcing sata modules even though ide is the right one... [05:37] ? [05:38] no, ubuntu just uses sata naming conventions for both sata/ide [05:38] ah [05:39] ok, well that takes care of that curiousity [05:39] have you tried doing a complete reinstall to see if something strange maybe happened during install? [05:39] I did [05:39] same thing [05:39] wow [05:39] this is indeed strange [05:39] error only occurs when the hard drive is under "load" [05:39] eg: apt-get upgrade or running the update manager [05:40] I can feel the laptop starting to grind to a halt as my mouse movements get slow, my keyboard input sometimes doesn't take, and I cannot switch between windows [05:42] god, I don't even really know what to say it sounds like you are having a lot of problems [05:42] have you considered trying another distro [05:42] such as Fedora [05:42] ? [05:42] I've got my Woody disc here, but it's always such a chore to configure X myself... [05:44] so here's what I'm thinking: download 7.10 and be happy until 8.10 comes out [05:44] or [05:44] re-install xp [05:44] you could try to chroot into your ubuntu system from the live cd [05:44] then update it [05:44] you're going to have to talk me through that one... [05:44] this is what you do [05:44] mkdir /mnt/ubuntu [05:44] k [05:45] I don't know your partition layout, you will have to tell me [05:45] '/dev/sda2 is the root partition [05:45] and it's mounted at /media/disk right now [05:45] ie. /dev/sda1 /boot, /dev/sda2 swap, /dev/sda3 /, /dev/sda4 /home, etc. [05:46] I need to know all of the partitions [05:46] you will then need to ensure all of them are initially unmounted [05:46] '/dev/sda1 is swap, /dev/sda2 is root, and that's it [05:47] unmounted sda2 [05:48] are you sure that is it? [05:48] fdisk -l [05:48] double check [05:49] positive [05:49] /dev/sda1 1 729 5855661 82 Linux swap / Solaris [05:49] /dev/sda2 730 9729 72292500 83 Linux [05:49] for future reference and I would suggest you do it know, you should separate you /boot and /home paritions [05:49] and this is the reason for it [05:50] your should run your boot partition with ext2 and not have it mount unless needed (speed for the first and security for the second) [05:50] and your /home partition should be separate as it usually gets written to much more often plus holds all your personal configuration files [05:50] hmm... never knew this [05:53] let me double check how big my / partition is [05:53] /boot (128mb), / (15GB), swap (50% of your ram in size), /home (whatever is left) [05:53] checking... [05:53] fair enough [05:53] if/when I reformat, I will re-partition [05:54] plus if you ever want to change distros or due a fresh install /home is separate and it shouldn't affect your preferences really afterwards [05:54] just goes to show how much of a creature of habit I am [05:54] ? [05:54] why is that? [05:54] been doing this since 2.2.14 [05:55] in anycase... [05:55] you were mentioning chroot'ing [05:55] well really you should have /opt /usr and /var also separate [05:55] yes [05:55] okay [05:55] or should I just do a fresh install? [05:55] it is entirely up to you [05:55] I don't really care [05:55] (though it was still cratering then, too) [05:55] k [05:55] keep 'er going then [05:56] umount /dev/sda2 [05:56] mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/ubuntu [05:56] mount -t proc none /mnt/ubuntu/proc [05:57] mount --bind /dev /mnt/gentoo/dev [05:57] oops [05:57] sorry [05:57] forget the last line [05:57] mount --bind /dev /mnt/ubuntu/dev [05:57] should be ubuntu :P [05:57] mount: mount point /mnt/ubuntu/proc does not exist [05:57] did you mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/ubuntu [05:57] linux cannot work with out proc [05:58] /dev/sda2 69G 180M 65G 1% /mnt/ubuntu [05:58] yup, mounted to /mnt/ubuntu [05:58] ls -al /mnt/ubuntu [05:58] show me the output [05:58] cdrom, etc, lost+found, media, var [05:58] odd [05:58] no proc [05:59] something is seriously wrong with your install [05:59] wee [05:59] you are missing many important directories [05:59] yeah... where's bin? [05:59] bin's the life of the party [05:59] or /usr for that matter [05:59] or /live [06:00] /lib [06:00] so... I think I'm going to attempt a re-install tomorrow [06:00] this is way too much like work for a sunday night [06:00] you might wanna download a new cd, check it against the md5 sum [06:00] that's a smart idea [06:00] burn it and then verify it with the burn utility [06:00] I have a feeling your cd is messed up [06:00] I have had that problem with other linux distros [06:00] weird [06:00] or put ubuntu a usb key and install [06:01] super fast to install from a usb key [06:01] net install? [06:02] no [06:02] lean install, then/ [06:02] ? [06:04] well... thanks for the help [06:04] gotta turn it in for the night [06:04] actually just stick with a new live cd [06:04] later [06:04] I'll likely be back tomorrow [06:04] cool [06:04] nite, and thanks again [06:04] I will check in [06:04] np