[00:03] you say video is working [00:26] Greybeard: not really.... still trying to figure it out.... Currently working without "Restricted Drivers" so I can have video, but need to get the "correct driver" installed. Get a black screen when "drivers" are enabled.... Geforce 7600GT [00:27] my 7600GS works well [00:28] I have a GeForce 7900GS that works fine with the nvidia proprietary driver I installed using Ubuntu's driver manage [00:28] manager [00:29] I was installing the driver at installation.... After bootup the video would go blank. Suppose I needed to have enabled it using MCC and not during installation? [00:31] try it ;) [00:31] without logs, it's hard to tell [00:33] Thanks guys... Trying it now; was thinking there was a driver issue - now it is looking like user error [00:34] well if it doesnt work in the installer it's still a bug [00:34] Ok, I enableed "pripiotory driver" and am getting the blank screen.... HELP [00:36] in MCC? [00:37] False Alarm.... Oops... Getting video on the VGA port. Wasnt working DVI [00:38] laga: What is the correct way to enable Component Video with 1080p resoution? [00:40] no clue, i don't use component [00:40] try nvidia-settings [00:41] thanks... [00:44] Not pulling channels.... What is the proper setting for cable TV? cable-us? [00:45] sorry, havent had an installation in quite some time now---- rusty [00:48] nevermind - had a disconnected cable.... *sigh [00:49] yeah, nvidia-settings is the easiest way to configure the nvidia driver, either dynamically, or it can edit the xorg.conf [01:25] Anyone able to help create an xorg.conf file for me. Having problems with nvidia-settings. [01:25] Wanting to have Component at 1080p resolution [01:28] http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/d7c326d37 === tgm4883_laptop changed the topic of #ubuntu-mythtv to: Mythbuntu 8.10 Alpha 4 Now Available for testing http://www.mythbuntu.org/8.10/alpha4 :: Mythbuntu 8.04.1 Released Please see http://www.mythbuntu.org/8.04.1/release :: See our website at http://www.mythbuntu.org for release and support information :: Paste logs @ http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com Please stick around for people to answer your question, we check back often. [02:07] Hey I thave mythtv installed and working however, the way the audio works on my capture card is, i have a wire going from the audio out of the Tv-card, to the microphone jack of my sound card (audigy2) how do i configure myth to use the microhpone as the audio source? [02:15] Installing and using MythTV: Troubleshooting. [02:33] Needing help; Trying to get 1080p output via COMPONENT connection.... GeForce 7600GT card [02:37] bump [03:13] please help!!!! Have component out working, but I dont think I have the xorg.conf setup properly; choppy with DPI loss.... Thinking it is running in "low resolution". [03:14] Here is the XORG.CONIF file I am using.... http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/d1e6ebcda === superm1|away is now known as superm1 [05:41] does ubuntu have an "msec" like security utility to verify file permissions on a nightly / weekly basis? [05:45] something like madriva(ake)'s msec? [05:49] bastille [05:49] that's the closest i think [05:49] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-hardened/2005-October/000102.html [05:49] which is available for hardy [05:50] not really appropriate discussion for #ubuntu-mythtv though, you're probably better off in #ubuntu-hardened or #ubuntu-security in the future [05:52] thanks for the tip .. just what I was looking for .. wanted a simple answer from users, rather than the server super admin types .. [05:52] appreciate the response [05:52] !google sabhain [05:52] Sorry I don't know about google sabhain [05:52] oh that was supposed to be [05:52] !google | sabhain [05:52] sabhain: This seems like a question that you probably could have solved by looking the first few results from a Google search. Try to make sure to do the appropriate research before asking a question ( http://justfuckinggoogleit.com/ ) [05:52] in the future :) [05:53] found a few old projects .. but hadn't found bastille yet [05:53] that was the second hit i saw on a search [05:53] lots of msec = millisecond stuff .. [05:53] ah yeah [05:54] i put msec ubuntu in my search, so probably why i turned out a little better [05:55] Hi. I'm new to Linux and I'm having a hard time to configure MythTV. The software recognize my tv card (a PCTV Stereo saa7134) which is supposed to work with v4l, but when I click "watch TV" nothing happens. Any idea how to properly configure this card? [05:55] quick trigger finger on the bot message .. superml .. thanks for the input [05:56] Zar, have you configured your cards and made input connections between the card & sources? [05:58] I sabhain, I have a cable tv setup box, so I had to pre-configure the channel for number 3 but I didn't make any connection with sources. The source is the EPG listing right? [05:59] I havent done a STB setup yet, but with all my tuner cards, I needed to setup listings (sources) and then connect them to the inputs before live TV would work .. [06:00] just get through all ?5? steps of the setup I think === gbutters_afk is now known as gbutters_zzzz [06:00] does it work if I use US listings? I live in Brazil. [06:01] I also did a channel scam, but all results were "no signal" [06:01] oops, scan not scam [06:02] not sure about that .. does schedules direct not have brazil local listings? [06:02] probably not, but I will try this [06:04] does it have an option to manually input a xmltv file? [06:04] not sure [06:04] what if I use the option "no grabber"? [06:06] This is driving me crazy. I want to get rid of Windows once for all, but I need my tv :-( [06:08] mythbuntu is worth the effort [06:10] Yep, it does. What does not is the quality of the cable TV in my country. I can watch "Legally Blonde" anymore :-) [06:11] oops, I mean I can't [06:11] sorry, English is not my first language === superm1 is now known as superm1|away [06:14] it's way better than my Portuguese [06:15] :-) where do you live? [06:20] let me ask something a little bit off-topic...do you know a Firewall better than Firestarter? On Windows I use Comodo, which is superb and let control every application, port and IP's. Firestarter looks too simple and kind of unreliable. [06:22] iptables [06:23] iptables looks scary :-) [06:23] i guess [06:24] don't forget I'm a Windows user for about 15 years :-) [06:24] unreliable, ha [06:25] aren't we all in one way or the other [06:25] webmin will allow controll of iptables [06:25] may frontends to iptables [06:25] many [06:26] what I can see is that all of them are just frontends to iptables right? [06:26] a google search will provide many results for firewall builders [06:26] right [06:27] firewall builders means tools that create iptable rules? [06:27] yes [06:27] so, I gues they are all reliable :-) [06:27] guess [06:27] yes:) [06:28] the problem is dummy user creating the iptable rules :-) [06:28] I use firestarter. At first I did not want to. But its strength is its simplicity. [06:28] Firestarter is fine for a new user. Or any user besides one who wishes to edit iptables by hand. [06:29] is it possible to configure the iptables based on applications? [06:30] Firestarter seems to allow ports or Ip's only [06:30] "seems" [06:31] start the application and attempt to use it... [06:31] sorry, English issues. I meant looks like or something like that [06:31] you'll find that firestarter shows it in the activity window [06:31] then you may right click it's line, and block or allow that port [06:31] Thanks. BTW, no signal on tv channel scan [06:31] no, I know what you meant [06:32] don't scan for channels [06:32] use fetch [06:32] fetch from sources? [06:32] yes [06:32] but I live in Brazil [06:32] thats fine [06:32] but thats the way to get your channels [06:33] I would like to fetch from a xmltv file on local drive, is it possible? [06:33] funny you from Brazil, I'm listening to spanish learning cds right now. I know, Brazil speaks Portuguese [06:33] never done that before, I use Schedules Direct [06:34] :-) yeah, some people think we speak Spanish. Is quite similar. I can understand Spanish, but can't speak. [06:34] I want to come to Brazil [06:34] bad [06:34] why? [06:34] :) [06:35] The most beautiful women in the world:) [06:35] did you ever see Simpsons? [06:35] love Simpsons [06:35] Oh yeah, they are :-) [06:35] tell me about it.... [06:36] I have to work on my Portuguese next [06:36] Lisa think this country is like a garbage dump site :-) [06:36] oh [06:36] I must have missed that episode [06:37] Do you believe that FOX translated that episode and cut off the line joking about our country? [06:38] Unfortunately, they forgot that people now about BitTorrent and a few hours after the broadcastingm both versions were on YouTube criticizing the censorship. [06:39] They had to publicly apologize [06:40] if you dub the bad stuff the Simpsons say it is better to not show it at all :-) [06:41] wow [06:41] I had no idea that went on [06:42] I personally don't watch it. I prefer something like BSG [06:46] When you hit fetch channels does something happen immediately or you have to hit next? [06:47] for me there was a delay and then it allowed me to hit next .. small delay (15 - 30 sec) [06:52] OK, now I get a green screen, which is better than the black screen of TVTime and better than no screen at all :-) [06:53] does it mean the card is working but the feed is oit? [06:53] out... [06:57] the program is recording th green scree. I guess this is a good sign too... [06:57] even though I installed the nvidia-glx driver for my geforce2 mx/mx400 tvout video card - I do have tv-out functionality but nvidia complains about "low graphics" and I think it's loading up the vesa driver instead. [07:07] wow, this program is way much better than Windows Media Center. I isn't working yet, but if it does..... [07:28] thank you all. I will get some sleep now and will be back tomorrow. [07:32] hi, i forget who i was talking to the other day, but i was trying to figure out how to browse the share folder on my backend from the mplayer port on my wii, has anybody played with this and figured it out? === MythbuntuGuest53 is now known as stevetv [09:33] hi [09:34] im hoping to ask about streaming apple trailers === gbutters_zzzz is now known as gbutters|NotHere === superm1|away is now known as superm1 === superm1 is now known as superm1|away === superm1|away is now known as superm1 [17:10] what kernel does 8.10 have [17:23] 2.6.26 [17:23] hmm nice [17:24] that would def fix my hvr-1800 issue [17:24] cant wait for me to beable to upgrade to that [17:24] hey superm1 how are ya today [17:24] Shadow__x, so so. not too exciting a day as of yet [17:25] ah [17:25] Shadow__x, well if you want to jump to 8.10 on a testing box, having an idea what's broke for us always helps [17:25] the earlier we know the better [17:25] well i had to run a sep line not using my spliter to get my hvr 1600 qam to lock when my pinnacle pctv 800i and hvr 1800 used it no issue thats kinda exciting [17:26] yeah i am thinking about doing that and testing with some stuff [17:32] 8.10 pretty stable for me (1 core, 3FE's) [17:33] only chasing things that I haven't had time yet to educate myself about [17:33] correct that .. only one 8.10 .. others still 8.04 [17:36] sabhain, great to hear. anything that sticks out for you, missing firmware, remotes, broken pieces, please let us know :) [17:39] nothing yet .. it really feels & performs a lot like when I first went to 8.04. I don't use the diskless thing, so unfortunately I won't be able to test that .. stuck to thin client w/ NFS boot on my FE's [17:39] I will report anything that does come up though .. [17:40] sabhain, how did you install? From Ubuntu or from yesterdays iso? [17:44] tgm4883_laptop, the iso [18:09] even though I installed the nvidia driver (nvidia-glx) and made sure with lsmod that it is loaded I see in Xorg.0.log "(EE) failed to initialize GLX extension (compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)" [18:11] li__, make sure that's the right driver version for your card [18:11] superm1: it is, nvidia-glx is for a GeForce2 MX/MX400 [18:12] is it just me, or is this deja vu from yesterday? [18:12] well i'm wondering if nvidia perhaps isn't advertising properly what cards are supposed to be supported by that driver then [18:12] tgm4883_laptop, no its uv ajed [18:45] I think the problem is that Xorg automatically detects the motherboard as being vesa compatible and loads that vesa driver [19:00] Hi are thier weekly builds of svn trunk for mythbuntu? [19:00] yes, but mythplugins is not working yet [19:01] Also I am running a old release 7.10 and I have a very quirky issue. My sound when in Mythvideo stops working for mplayer only. Internal player works and recording etc. [19:01] Thanks laga. [19:01] On the sound issue i dont see anything in the logs and then all of a sudden it will work again [19:02] I cannot figure out what is the issue or how to fix. [19:02] I am outputting all audio via spdif and when it works it works well. Any ideas??? [19:02] there are no trunk builds for 7.10 [19:03] try asking the mplayer people [19:03] Laga: i understand that. I am going to move to the latest release [19:03] might be a good idea to upgrade at some point :) [19:04] upgrading all the time is not advisable. Its supposed to be like an appliance. That being said I have hdpvr I am anxious to try [19:04] then try mplayer again after upgrading ;) [19:04] 8.10 releases in october so it might be worth your time to just wait for that instead of upgrading twice [19:04] your call I guess [19:04] double upgrade might be messy as well though [19:04] i'd probably prefer a LTS release [19:04] well, mplayer won't change [19:05] Greybeard: proof? [19:05] 8.10 is gonna be lts, no? [19:05] mplayer should tell you what's wrong [19:05] although LTS doesn't cover the LTS bits [19:05] err [19:05] although LTS doesn't cover the mythtv bits [19:05] jphillip: no. 8.04 was LTS [19:05] I may just bite the bullet. I have learned after 5 years a myth that I need to not touch it, if I want a happy wife and be able to watch tv [19:05] it's usually that it couldn't find an audio track or couldn't open the sound device [19:05] it's just ever other release [19:05] alexvd_: that's true [19:06] laga: believe me I know [19:06] alexvd_ in theory as long as your backup your recordings and db all should be recoverable incase of a problem [19:06] jphillip: I was going to try the new script from Michael T Dean. I need to migrate to some newer hardware. [19:07] really nervous to not lose my recordings and more importantly recording schedules [19:08] alexvd_ the db contains pretty much everything, worst cause you can do a clean install, reload that and put your recordings back in place, and everything should be working then [19:08] always back up the db before a major change [19:08] but it is hard to go back once you've used a newer version for a while [19:08] Still nervous :) [19:09] If I screw up the TV and we cant watch the Olympics it will not be a fun house to be in [19:09] you don't have to tell me [19:09] I hear it whenever my wife misses her soap opera [19:10] hum. now i need some overclocking to watch TV, but that'll make my box louder :( [19:11] I hope that in the future thier is an easier upgrade path. Kinda of like in the enterprise where you do an upgrade and it saves the old image so that if you bork it you just reboot back to the old. Something menu drive would be nice. GUI for users = less damage [19:11] laga HD? [19:11] yes [19:11] try XvMC? [19:12] h264 wont work with xvmc :( [19:12] I was able to make my 1900+ play HD over that, as long as it didn't do user jobs [19:12] ah booo :( [19:12] yeah, it seems to me that XvMC is more trouble than it's worth [19:12] Laga: what is your processor. I have a dual core 3.2ghz , I am hoping that will do it [19:12] yeah, that's plenty [19:12] Greybeard its nice, as long as it does what you need and you don' [19:12] t need any more [19:13] well, I wasted time trying to get it working, but it never worked as well as ordinary XVIDEO [19:13] hum. looks like my radeon card is not to blame for my playback problems. same thing happens with my geforce using the same display profile settings as on the radeon [19:13] Great. So laga are you using the hdpvr [19:13] no [19:13] what's the problem? [19:13] alexvd_: i have a 1.86GHz core 2 duo [19:13] just watching downloads then? [19:14] Greybeard: i don't know :) it's just a settings. it worked with a different set of settings [19:14] alexvd_: no, HD in europe [19:14] yeah, i've wasted huge amounts of time finding the best settings [19:15] laga coreavc help? [19:15] I still get tearing on my hdtv output. I kinda gave and live with it. [19:15] h264 is cpuintensive [19:15] but kernel deinterlacer with regular Xv displaying at 720p@60Hz seems the best for me [19:15] jphillip: i am using coreavc. without it, mythfrontend would segfault - most likely because the stream gets corrupted due to reception problems [19:15] no xvmc, kernel deinterlacing, [19:15] I've been unhappy with the deinterlacer on my new 1080p tv, looked good on the 720p before [19:15] haven't gotten a chance to see what I can do about it [19:16] the new greedyh and yahid deinterlacers were nice for SD on my SD tv ;) [19:16] greybeard: i still get tearing or artifacts watching 1080i videos with nvidia and the standard modeline [19:16] why deinterlace to display on an interlaced TV? [19:16] alexvd_ have you tried the hdpvr yet with myth? [19:16] oddly, I haven't had trouble with tearing [19:16] I'm not sure why, since I've had trouble with lots of other things [19:17] I'm using the radeon driver BTW [19:17] I didnt when I used knoppmyth but then the driver changed with mythbuntu and I havent been able to fix. [19:17] I honestly wonder if its more of a resource issue cause dvd's upconverted on it still look brilliant [19:17] sabhain: i have been waiting [19:17] Greybeard: timing issues. if the timing is off just a little bit, you'll get tearing. (re: "deinterlacing on an interlaced TV") [19:17] oh [19:18] sabhain: i have two sitting in boxes, saw a post today saying to wait, and that its still not 100% [19:18] yeah, I've used the PVR-350 which avoids that problem, but I realize with a regular video card, it's a lot trickier [19:18] laga: so are you saying the unless you specify 59.94 or the exact proper modeline you will get tearing [19:19] I don't have that exactly and I don't have noticeable tearing [19:19] I think mine's 60Hz, but the 1080i recordings are 59.94 [19:20] I tried various settings on my 1080i tv, but just use the standard modeline and I get issues. 720p oddly enough is very smooth but 1080 is the problem [19:20] i'm in PAL country anyways ;) [19:20] laga: oh sorry your different [19:20] alexvd_: i dont have any proof, but say you have a background task running which slows down the video drawing occasionally then it can go out of sync [19:21] that's my explanation at least [19:21] i never got good playback unless i used a patch to enable frame doubling deinterlacers on my interlaced display and used one of these [19:21] then it was very smooth [19:21] laga: the box is an appliance only runs mythbuntu. also its a 3.2ghz box. wouldnt checking vsync fix that? [19:22] alexvd_ are they still asking 250 USD for those? [19:22] Anyone else here using a Wiimote as their Myth remote? [19:22] sabhain: i forgot how much it costs. I think so. I was so happy to finally record hd i didnt care what the price was. I may buy two more if it works as advertised. [19:23] alexvd_: i was only referring to my special setup. lots of things can affect that [19:23] alexvd_: what driver do you use? [19:24] its the nvidia driver. I have to look at the box. I never upgraded the original 7.10 I think. When I tried to upgrade i got issues with green boxes all over the place. [19:25] what is the command to get the driver info from the command line [19:26] dpkg -l |grep nvidia [19:26] should get you somethign [19:26] depends which part [19:26] if it starts with ii its installed [19:26] there's both kernel and Xorg parts [19:27] 1:1.0.9639+2.6.22.4-14.9 [19:28] there's information in /proc/driver/nvidia/ [19:28] 9639 is way old I know [19:28] 169.12+2.6.24.13-19.45 [19:29] appears to be the newest (for nvidia-new at least) [19:29] grep NVIDIA /var/log/Xorg.0.log will give you some info about the Xorg driver [19:29] yeah i need to upgrade. I am pretty sure that last time when i tried to upgrade to the glxnew it screwed up the output. I had pink boxes and then green pixelation all over the screen [19:30] yes, that was a known problem in gutsy AFAIK [19:30] If i upgrade using ubuntu restriced drivers is 169.12 the one that will be in the repository [19:42] Hi there. I am having Problems playing DVDs an watching LiveTV in MythTV 8.04.1. I have a ATi Hd3650 Card. I've tried many Drivers. The Ati Driver in mythbuntu and the properitaire Ati Driver 8.1, 8.6 and 8.7. But i always have the same Problem that the Movie or TV freezes after a second. Xine works fine. Are there any configs i can change? [19:43] is there anything in the logs? [19:44] what log? [19:45] /var/log/mythtv/mythfrontend.log [19:45] you can increase the verbosity by adding "-v playback" to mythfrontend I think [19:45] for troubleshooting, you might want to start mythfrontend manually and see the output in the terminal [19:46] i just installed new. What Driver should i use first? [19:47] which one did Ubuntu install? [19:47] greybird, how should i do this? i am totally new to linux [19:47] well, it doesn't make much sense to ask which one you should install if you don't know what's already there [19:50] if you run jockey-gtk, it should tell you which driver is currently in use [19:53] i installed 8.04.1 and starts the first time. so currently there is no special driver selected. [19:54] and MythTV won't play video at all? [19:54] what should i use. the one with ubunut oder the driver from ati? [19:54] probably the one that's already there [19:54] I'm using the one from Ubuntu, though I have a different ATI card [19:55] ok. therefor i have to activate the driver in the Hardware Drivers dialog, right? [19:56] sorry for the question, but i dont want to make a mistake [19:58] if you can see something on the screen, some driver is working [19:58] you say Xine plays video fine, right? [19:58] yes [19:58] then, whatever video problem you're having must be with MythTV [19:59] thats wha i am here ;) [19:59] why* [19:59] and that's why I suggested increasing the logging verbosity of mythfrontend so you can see if it's having trouble with something [20:00] ok, so i first use the driver thats in the package. Then i post the log. thanks so far. [20:00] p.s. how do i change my name? [20:00] it sounds like video is working [20:00] don't mess with that [20:00] which name? [20:00] in IRC? [20:01] yes [20:01] /nick foo [20:01] thanks [20:01] yeah, I'm not extremely fluent in IRC === MythbuntuGuest24 is now known as Ragamuffin [20:01] i've been using IRC for 8 years now === Ragamuffin is now known as Ragamuffin76 [20:01] about 8 years i guess, yeah [20:03] on more question. Should i do all the updates in the update manager? [20:04] that's usually a good idea [20:24] It works. I dont know why, but it works. The only different to my other installations is that i now installed x64 and not x32. [20:25] what works that didn't before? [20:26] dvd in mythTv [20:26] so, how did you fix it? [20:27] i just installed the x64, made all the updates and activated the driver that came with mythbuntu. [20:27] you did that since you last said anything here? [20:27] what about TV and other video? [20:27] But the picture is lerking a bit [20:28] jerking* [20:28] playing a DVD? [20:28] y [20:28] in mythtv [20:28] in xine much better [20:29] any suggestions? [20:29] you may have to experiment with the different playback profiles to find the best one [20:30] where do i find playback profiles in mythtv? [20:30] http://mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Playback_profiles [20:30] it's in settings [20:32] Utilities/Setup -> Setup -> TV Settings -> Playback [20:32] settings in the mythtv frontend or Backend Setup? [20:32] frontend [20:36] im running 8.02 and need help modifing the lircrc, i want to add a remote key to /home/~/.lircrc, id like the key to send a string to a change channel script [20:37] you should probably use irexec [20:37] greybeard, ive tried several times using irexec [20:37] unless mythtv can handle calling something else [20:38] done a bunch of googleing, but notyhing has workd so far :( [20:38] so, what's the problem? [20:39] while watching dishnet (live tv) i can send digits and some commands to channel change script, i want to send the "fetch" key to that same script [20:39] I don't have any experience with external channel changing or dishnet I'm afraid [20:40] but it might be helpful to get either irexec or your script to write to the terminal so you can make sure the command is right [20:40] well i think the irexec command will work, according to a wiki page i googled, but when i try it it doesnt seem to fire the command [20:41] What type of Decoder and Renderer is best for my ati HD3650 [20:41] grebeard, yea i have tried sending to the screen, that might make things easier to see if working [20:42] greybeard, thanks :) [20:42] sure [20:42] probably just the regular ffmpeg decoder and regular Xv (XVIDEO) display method [20:42] that's what I'm using [20:44] so i choose "Standard" as Decoder and "xv-blit" as Video Renderer? [20:44] yeah, that should be good [20:44] what is XvMC? [20:45] hardware motion compensation assistance [20:45] it can make MPEG2 decoding less stressful on the CPU, but I've found it to be much more trouble than it's worth [20:45] only certain chips and drivers support it [20:45] but i have hardware encoding with the settings obove? [20:46] these are decoding settings [20:46] yes, decoding. for playback [20:48] looks like its works. u helped me a much greybeard. Thank u very much [20:48] you're welcome [20:48] it's playing smoother now? [20:48] yeeeeeeees :) [20:49] what settings did you change exactly? [20:49] I fought with some of those settings for a long time trying to get better playback [20:49] "Standard" as Decoder and "xv-blit" Video Renderer [20:49] what were they before? [20:50] dont know exactly. [20:50] sorry [20:50] I was just curious [20:51] I've messed around with fancier settings like XvMC and OpenGL rendering and Bob deinterlacing, but I could never get a better result than xv-blit and kernel deinterlacing on my system [20:52] what deinterlacer do u currently have? [20:52] kernel [20:54] from what I've read, bob may be ideal, but it seems to be very picky about video timing [20:54] I could never get it to stop flickering [20:54] i just tried Bob(x2). Restult: MythTV closed [20:54] that's not good [20:55] what video mode do you have BTW? [20:55] what do u mean? [20:55] what dimensions and refresh rate? [20:55] 1680x1050 60Mhz [20:56] not interlaced, right? [20:56] no, dont think so [20:57] Bob should be able to work, since it requires a progressive refresh rate equal to the field rate of the video, which is 59.94Hz in the US [20:57] but after installation i want to place it on a normal PAL television [20:57]